The Embouchure Change Crisis

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Komentáře • 229

  • @branflakes2600
    @branflakes2600 Před 8 lety +127

    7:00 , " Yes, the gods are smiling down upon me." No, they're frowning to show you what a good embouchure looks like. :)

  • @brodyodyo4671
    @brodyodyo4671 Před 8 lety +89

    im about to have an embouchure change crisis because i didnt know thats how im supposed to play

    • @arielluquer8274
      @arielluquer8274 Před 5 lety +3

      same

    • @garryfreemyer7187
      @garryfreemyer7187 Před 2 lety +1

      I am having an embouchure crisis because I haven’t received my flute yet. It’s an all silver gmienhardt

  • @melodysong1127
    @melodysong1127 Před 8 lety +2

    I play a c flute, but i could never reach the low c, and i tried the frown thing for a couple of days AND IT WORKED!!! Thank you soooo much!

  • @BehindLiliesEyes
    @BehindLiliesEyes Před 8 lety +27

    I think i need to go through an embochure change after this video

  • @miroshiful
    @miroshiful Před 8 lety +26

    I'm a pianist and I've never tried the flute or any other wind instrument but still I watch your videos just because you inspire me so much to work harder and to improve my skill! Thank you! :)

  • @very592
    @very592 Před 4 lety +4

    Im a sec 3 flautist, i started playing flute last year when i was sec 2 on May because i just started school in SG. I had no music background and I didn't plan to learn flute when I joined band, but during that time they need a sec 2 flutist, so i was sort of "forced" into the flute section. I think i was the greatest junior in the junior band because I could catch up with everyone in a few weeks only. My theory and techniques were really good for a beginner, but my tone was really airy, because i didn't realize that my embouchure hole was formed on the left side of my lips, not in the middle. So my tone was really airy as i put the lip plate on the middle of my lips instead of left. I thought I just need to practise more so i can get a better tone. In December, i was really frustrated, i was so sad, i cried many times because i have changed my embouchure a lot of times, around 5 or 6 times. And I tried to practise with each type of embouchure that i found for about 1 or 2 weeks. But my tone didn't improve at all. Then, i watched many professional flautist videos, some of them actually don't put their lip plate on the middle of their lips, so I tried to practise in front of the mirror, i tried to frown and blow, and realized that my embouchure hole is on the left side of my lips. So i tried to shift my flute to the left and practise. It took quite a long time to get used to that because it's hard to keep it in the same position when practising. It took me around 3 months to get used to it. But i was also really frustrated during those 3 months because i thought that i won't be able to get a good tone because my lips are weird. The flesh on the left side of my lower lip is thinner than the flesh on the right side of my lower lip. So I thought that i wouldn't be able to get a good tone with this kind of lips. Then I just keep practising, until April, i actually tried to change my embouchure for the last time. I pushed the flute a bit from the right side because the embouchure hole is a bit slanted, so I tried to follow. And I noticed that my tone got better, it was such a big big big improvement. Until now i keep using that embouchure because it produces a really nice tone, good projection, and good flexibility. Last time whenever ppl ask me to show them how I play my flute, i was so embarrassed and had no confidence at all because i had airy tone, now i have more confidence because of my improvement :D. That's my story :D

  • @grantdevelle
    @grantdevelle Před 8 lety +20

    When I went to my first flute lesson with my tutor, she noticed that I was doing the "smiley" and she told me to make a frown when I am playing and that would produce a warmer tone. When I got home that same day and kept trying to frown I found it so hard and I had to work on it for about 2 or 3 weeks to really start seeing results but that 2 or 3 weeks were the worst because it was difficult to produce a rich tone and I was so annoyed that I could reach notes That used to come naturally to me. I'm an 8th grade student currently and I will be graduating and going to high school later this year.

  • @MorganasTurtle
    @MorganasTurtle Před 7 lety +13

    This is EXACTLY what I'm going through right now! I was really questioning if I should switch majors, but this motivated me to work through it. Thanks!

  • @sharongeiger687
    @sharongeiger687 Před 7 lety +2

    Going through it RIGHT NOW - after 45 years of the smiling embouchure. Believe me, it may take longer than 2 weeks - but thank you for acknowledging that the grind.is.real. Maybe I WILL get to the other side ...

  • @LouisBertrandTech
    @LouisBertrandTech Před 8 lety +15

    Wow that was so insightful! So here's my embouchure breakthrough story...
    I was off the flute for over a month because of being sick and burned out from work. During that time (a lot of time too sick in bed to do anything but couldn't sleep because of 2 minute long coughing fits), I spent some time procrastinating on this fine channel and came across this video. Before being sick and not practicing, I had reasonable good tone for an adult beginner. So now, back to the flute and I sound like a leaky bicycle pump!
    What to do?
    Go back to the basics: Marcel Moyse "De la sonorité" (Paris: Alphonse Leduc, 1934). Read, re-read, absorb, embrace, and engage with pages 2-5. Yep, just those four pages (actually, just focus on the exercises on page 4), then go back to the video and you will totally get that "everything forward" thing.
    I did the simple exercise of running down the chromatic scale from G to low C in long tones, progressively tightening my lower jaw and lips to get to C#, then C, then -- shock and disbelief! -- the B on my B-foot! I have never been able to hit that note without cracking or flattening out into a wheeze. If you want more details, pick up Trevor Wye's "Practice Book for the Flute: Volume 1 - Tone", he expands on Moyse in a systematic way.
    After 20 minutes with the Moyse exercises, I felt triumphant -- and totally mentally and physically exhausted (that was too much like real work). Now I have to keep doing it so that I don't lose those moments of embouchure truth and clarity.
    Anyway, sorry for the long winded comment, I just wanted to share that, yes, it takes absolute dedication to subtle little details to ultimately get it right. Or as Moyse writes, "it is a matter of time, patience and intelligent work".

  • @karencoleman7342
    @karencoleman7342 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This really hits home for me! Last summer, I underwent extensive dental work that corrected my bite and completely changed my embouchure. Two months later, I fell down my basement stairs backwards, dislocated my shoulder and had a massive surgery to reattach my arm to my shoulder. 😮 I am in the process of re-learning how to play. So difficult at 62 years old, but I'm determined! Thank you for opening up this dialog!

  • @cate4260
    @cate4260 Před 7 lety +43

    I learnt flute when I had braces, and I remember getting that really wispy tone when I got them off. It was the worst thing ever, coz there was suddenly all this extra room and my mouth had no idea what to do. It was so bad

    • @rqinfires
      @rqinfires Před 6 lety +1

      Banana Joe good to know when I get mine off. 👍🏼😅😁

    • @mely1056
      @mely1056 Před 5 lety

      Lol same thing happened when i got braces and had no more space in my mouth

    • @SrHonse
      @SrHonse Před 5 lety

      How did y'all over come it? I need to know soon.

    • @vx.r.
      @vx.r. Před 4 lety

      Good to know! i'm getting off mine soon. :)

    • @bwigiwigington4360
      @bwigiwigington4360 Před 4 lety

      When I had my braces taken off I could not play for almost three days. It was so much harder than than getting used to playing with braces. I had to completely relearn the piccolo

  • @leslieviljoen74
    @leslieviljoen74 Před 6 lety +12

    Luckily I've never smiled while playing the flute, there's usually a look of intense pain and horror on my face.

  • @CR-xn5cz
    @CR-xn5cz Před 8 lety +2

    I luuuuuv this! I played flute from 4th grade to about 9th and never with a good teacher just trying myself to get a good tone. But now (at 43) I want to play again soooo much. My kids are taking piano and I have fantasies of playing awesome flute and piano duets with them. I needed this info on embouchure. Thank you! Thank you! I love your passion for music and your humorous and fun style.

  • @houtblazer
    @houtblazer Před 8 lety

    I must thank you. I ran into an embouchure crisis of myself and your talk actually helped me get passed that. I really made a leap forward now. Thanks!

  • @pmh1nic
    @pmh1nic Před 7 lety

    You have been such an encouragement to me, a beginner trying to find my ombeture. Someone showing you what to do is of course helpful but ultimately you have to do it and then learn to do it consistently. I thought I was a total loser after two weeks of trying and having a tone that was so inconsistent and more often then not pretty awful. Thanks for sharing and being honest about your ombeture crisis.

  • @meganmakeever
    @meganmakeever Před 6 lety

    This is so helpful and HILARIOUS! Some of my students are going through embouchure changes, and man, is it hard to explain! Keep making awesome videos!

  • @kiaraeijo
    @kiaraeijo Před 8 lety +7

    I had my embouchure change crisis when I was freshly out of high school and I was starting my AA. My previous teacher Suzan Degooyer told me that the smile way of doing the embouchure was making me tense. My current teacher tells me that the smile embouchure makes me have a nasal sound on the flute. :)

  • @KellieMSolar
    @KellieMSolar Před 8 lety +2

    Ugh. I play the clarinet, and my embouchure was really bad before I started taking lessons. Luckily, it was during the summer. I couldn't play any of the octave key notes, and I squeaked a lot. I'm an emotional person, so I kind of teared up every lesson. But, thankfully, I got over it and my teacher says now that she almost can't tell the difference between our tones. :3

  • @cas2470
    @cas2470 Před 2 lety

    This video is so helpful ! I have been struggling for a while and I knew my embouchure was wrong so I didn’t wanna practice at all for the past few weeks. But thanks to your video I’m gonna start practicing lip frowning for now :)

  • @carmenfreeman4374
    @carmenfreeman4374 Před 6 lety

    Me too! Yes, I feel all of those emotions too. Thank you for discussing the "feels."👏☺😊

  • @trumpetman
    @trumpetman Před 6 lety

    I’m a trumpet player doing an embouchure change after 20 years. This was VERY helpful and hilarious! We have many of the same problems. I’m able to play almost as high as I want with good control now but struggling to rebuild lower register. Thanks for this.

  • @ewtam24
    @ewtam24 Před 3 lety

    I really appreciate your reflection. I also learned a new more efficient embouchure in my masters degree. I agree with the frustration. Sad thing is that I was not as fortunate as you. The embouchure came and left. Also, I didn’t really have time to stop playing because I was in a couple ensembles. I eventually was able to change my embouchure, but it was after I graduated. Body had an aha moment and figured it out. I’m just glad it happened! Thank you again!

  • @michaelrs8010
    @michaelrs8010 Před 5 lety

    Greetings from Andy and I in Orange County California.
    A little late to this party since this videos us about 3 years oldb but thank you for it. It was both entertaining and informative...
    especially as a older adult looking to take up a simple system flute/fife type instrument and looking through a bunch of these videos for pointers. Some of them are quite dry or flat in their presentation.

  • @larryschmidt6152
    @larryschmidt6152 Před 8 lety

    Started playing again after a 20 year break 4 years ago and am practicing about 1 - 1.5 hrs a day. I started off playing on my own with the tight "smiley" embouchure and I had NO stamina much less flexibility throughout the range. Two years ago I started with a teacher who started to "frown" me but didn't use your description or explanation as to why. Yours is the best explanation I have heard so far. Way to go!

  • @moses8661
    @moses8661 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for sharing. I am going through that right now. It's driving me crazy.

  • @NigelRamses
    @NigelRamses Před 6 lety

    I am totally new to the flute, and I am so glad to have found this video. I went through an embouchure change on the french horn after high school, and for two weeks I sounded worse than when I had first begun the horn. I want to be sure that I am starting off correctly on the flute, so that I don't have to go through that pain on this instrument.

  • @goob27
    @goob27 Před 5 lety +7

    This is my third year of playing flute, and when I first started, I was INCREDIBLE for a beginning band student. My embouchure was great, I could play notes super easily, and I just felt like a child prodigy.
    Then I hit marching band.
    The music is far more difficult than anything I had ever played in a band class before, and almost 2 months later, I'm realizing that if I want to be able to meet my personal standard of always being able to play the flute 1 part, I need to re-learn my embouchure. I've had a very similar one since beginning band, although my tone has gotten better and I'm not as flat as I used to be (I used to have to push my flute all the way in to the body to be in tune). However, I'm still using the cheat embouchure that most people in school bands use and I'd like to get the absolute best quality that can come from a beginner flute, because I refuse to leave her until I absolutely have to. Mostly because I'm broke, but we've bonded, too. I'm hoping to maybe drag the rest of the flutes down with me into the despair that is learning a new embouchure because the rest of the band can't always shut up for the flutes, so maybe we can figure out a way to project better without sacrificing tone quality.

  • @Freedommeadow
    @Freedommeadow Před 6 lety

    Emboucher crisis happened jumping back and forth from piccolo and flute. Gah. Tired shaky mouth muscles equals shaky tone, equals loss of confidence, equals meltdown. Back to the basics. Thank you for your video.

  • @AutumnalLeaves
    @AutumnalLeaves Před 8 lety +4

    ok so I picked up a mega-cheap 2nd hand flute as an excuse to try it out. No time for getting a teacher, so I wanted to try to youtube my way to learning how to make some semblence of a sound. My lips are a bit scarred an inflexible so I've been struggling to make the right embouchure, most of the vids I've seen do the whole stretchy-smile thing. Just tried your frowny-styley and already getting a better sound. Still breathy and dreadful, but a step in the right direction. Thanks V. Much!
    Really going to have to get a proper tutor tho, I suspect.
    Oh and as for your vids, really like the editing you're doing. Very professional, witty cuts which really add amusement and spark to the info and advice. Thanks for doing them.

  • @fotofavoloso267
    @fotofavoloso267 Před 7 lety

    I have watched many of your videos and this one is by far the most impressive.......I was looking for videos on piccolo embouchure and stumbled across this. My flute teacher in college (circa 1977) had studied under Julius Baker and the first thing we worked on was the frown embouchure......I remember he asked me to simulate crying......as a child might cry.....he got me to feel what it should feel like.........I too would practice it every day.........to work on that muscle memory. It did help me establish a reliable lower register on the flute. My personal problem was that I could never really grasp reading music well........ergo I have always been technically challenged.........but always had a great sound. The flute brings me much joy.....and I create in my own voice.......but don't ask me to play Bach, Poulenc or Martinu. Thank you for your youtube videos. Live long and prosper. Mark

  • @Alas_Earwaxx
    @Alas_Earwaxx Před 8 lety +1

    the moment of times I've had an embouchure change... the most frustrating experience I've ever had in college... it's so much to take in and so overwhelming that you can't produce a decent tone at this point of flute playing. I can relate to all of your reactions and feelings.

  • @Chloe-lt8fq
    @Chloe-lt8fq Před 7 lety +8

    i got braces at the beginning of the year, i was so sad cause every time i come back from an appointment my embouchure would completely change and all that time that i spent on making a nice tone is gone... i get so frustrated all the time cause of this but now i am kinda used to it ;(

  • @davdark433
    @davdark433 Před 6 lety +1

    I'm going through an ombochure change at the moment and I find myself slipping back so I just keep practicing and trying to change and make it natural. Now watching this video my eyes are open to another ombochure change I'm going to need to make lol. Oh well it will never stop me playing and only make me better. Thanks

  • @akeemadams7211
    @akeemadams7211 Před 6 lety

    I love those awkward silences.

  • @macwhirterj
    @macwhirterj Před 6 lety

    OMG this is my LIFE right now. THANK YOU.

  • @dodringidiot
    @dodringidiot Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you for making this video! I have been trying to teach myself the frowning embouchure as I can tell it produces a better tone, but I never knew WHY. Your explanation here has been so very helpful in understanding that, while I wasn't smiling before, I was making everything way. too. tight. Much improvement from relaxing and giving freedom of movement to the lips and cheeks. Thanks again!

  • @aboutforever5424
    @aboutforever5424 Před 8 lety

    I literally love your channel so much :)

  • @cafe.cedarbeard
    @cafe.cedarbeard Před rokem

    Yes! Thank you so much. I've been doing as you recommend to develop tone first in my now only less than two week focus on flute practice after 28 years only jamming and not knowing what I didn't know. Your video on Trevor Wye books came up on my first search, and I found the Tone book at a local music store. I'm still working on the first two pages as my mouth still gets tired developing correct embouchure. I recently lost my low note power almost completely, partly due to my flute's damaged and worn pads, now with my repair man, but I'm still struggling with the loaner flute. Your suggestions cleared it up immediately. Droning notes has been a thing of mine ever since learning to circular breathe with didgeridoo in the 90's. I started playing flute then too, bamboo type with no keys, only 6 holes plus the embouchure hole. Wow, the difficulty level of this instrument is as high as anything I've ever played beyond jamming level; voice, guitar, bass and drums my most practiced and skillful instruments. Keyboards are easy when I practice only a little bit, and flute fingerings are not my problem at all; it's all in the lips and my arms developing the strength to hold the flute, the awareness of posture so that I don't slouch when I descend in pitch, thus breaking the alignment in my arms that keep the flute in a stable position for my lips. Such a pleasure to develop a new instrument, one that might let me into an orchestra some day. I like a challenge, thus my skills on drum kits and strings and keys in general. Horns! Flute is the hardest one. Didgeridoo is easier. I have huge breath power, and the lip strength from buzz horns is less nuanced than flute technique. Clarinet was my first horn, so much easier. It's just bite strength and top lip only seals the air, no participation in tone. Bottom lip on reed needs more brute force than the tiny movements in flute skills. Thanks again! Your videos are really easy to follow and very informative.

    • @cafe.cedarbeard
      @cafe.cedarbeard Před rokem

      I've been so inspired to practice I tired out my developing mouth muscles. It's good to rest and massage my face, buzz my lips in low frequencies, stretch the muscles gently, and put the flute down for a day once in awhile, at least until I'm in better shape. Like any athletic skill this kind of discipline on musical instruments is best tuned with instruction. Too much self taught for most of us means unlearning incorrect habits later on. I had to relearn how to play familiar guitar passages when I took in the teaching of ergonomics and alignment, nuances in how to position the guitar, how to hold it, how to finger and pick without damage or strain from a Guitar Craft circle that welcomed me for a short time before it dissolved. Glad these vids provide so much correct teaching so I can build flute skills correctly this time.

  • @TheShineySmiley
    @TheShineySmiley Před 8 lety +2

    Lol I've always done the frowny embouchure and I thought the smily one was the way to go and have been trying to do the smily one for so long. This video made me feel better about myself

  • @ELLENIKA12111
    @ELLENIKA12111 Před 7 lety

    Not an embouchure change as I'm a violist, but last year I had to completely relearn my bow hold and vibrato. I have been playing for 14 years now, and to suddenly be in the position where I felt like I sounded like a complete beginner was terrible, but I ended up just doing what you did and focused only on my tone, bow hold, and vibrato for the course of a month. By the end I had mostly solved my problem.

  • @emfomby79
    @emfomby79 Před 8 lety +6

    OMG! I'm going though the same thing (kind of). I'm a grad student (master's program for music education) and my instrument is the flute as well. I went through a similar situation with an embouchure/head joint change. For many years, I used to play with my head joint rolled in and with a smaller, tenser embouchure opening. My teacher noticed this and told me to adjust my head joint so that it's not so rolled in for better resonance and relax my lips and throat. After getting a new flute last year, doing some long tone/embouchure exercises, and keeping a relaxed throat it's like a whole new world. Better tone quality. But, like you said, I went though the whole "why am I doing this?" "this sucks so bad!" "I sound like a third grader!" "why?!?!!?!?" It took a lot of practice and not giving up. Lot's of sitting in the practice room and going back to long tones. But, it paid off in the end. Not only did it change my tone quality but it also gave me more self confidence, like "I can do this, I can be a flutist!" I'm glad you put this video (and many others) on your channel. I feel your pain in many of them as I'm going through the same things in my flute studies (receiving a "W" in musicianship - been there. Failing a placement audition - yup, but then again I didn't practice, however, I came back the next year and got second flute in wind ensemble. And yes, I love playing second flute parts!). So, yeah, keep up the good work! And keep the videos coming! I always thought I was the only one, but I'm glad I'm not! It helps me get through my week and through my music ed. program! :)

    • @kiaraeijo
      @kiaraeijo Před 8 lety

      I just got my first professional flute last month and I had to change the way that I tune and align my flute.

  • @carmenfreeman4374
    @carmenfreeman4374 Před 6 lety

    Hey, thank you for being that teacher. 👏 Keep up the excellent work.😊☺

  • @maryelizabeth3055
    @maryelizabeth3055 Před 8 lety

    Bravo!!!!! I literally clapped after the video you are such an inspiration!!!!!

  • @Secretsofsociety
    @Secretsofsociety Před 4 lety

    I'm glad I found this video. I just started flute a week ago.

  • @loveablebubbaloo
    @loveablebubbaloo Před 6 lety

    Omg I tried the frown face embouchure once and noticed a super awesome difference! Thank you for the tip! And I have to freak people out with this weird facial look just because!

  • @emeral3610
    @emeral3610 Před 8 lety +2

    can you do a video on breathing exercises?and possibly warm-up exercises? thank you so much for your videos!They have made me grow as a musician and actually helped me become a better role model for other flutists!Once again thank you.

  • @FluteHaoran1997
    @FluteHaoran1997 Před 8 lety +1

    I love the lows as well

  • @juanaaguilar3680
    @juanaaguilar3680 Před 6 lety

    Can you be my teacher !!! I’ve recently bought my first personal flute after not playing for 6 years ! And I’m so eager to learn. I’m currently self teaching, which is challenging to say the least but still very much exciting ! I watch all your videos and they’ve helped me soo much especially with my embouchure! Thank you so much and hope to hear from you

  • @thesilenceisdeafening

    30 yrs ago I was so frustrated after 3 yrs with a teacher who berated and belittled me for not producing correct tone with the "smiley" that I completely gave up. I still loved the sound of the flute, I loved what it could do and what joy it could bring people, but personally I detested it anywhere near me. There was a young girl who wanted to learn and couldn't afford one, so I blest her with mine a few years ago. Best decision EVER! That young girl has now so inspired me to try again ( the sound she produces brings tears to my eyes) that I am now saving up for a flute😊. I am doing the frowny exercises so that one day when I have my new baby I will be able to have a teeny tiny headstart. Also, I watch your videos, Joanne, and James Galway's and as much flutists videos as I can get my grabby little hands on. At 52, I believe I am now alot older and, I hope, just that little bit wiser. I follow my eldest sister's hints too, who at age 62 is self-teaching with the help of CZcams and the condensed Trevor Wye book. So thank you, for the inspiration and the confidence boosts❤

    • @randyking9489
      @randyking9489 Před 3 měsíci

      I really hope you are blessed by giving your flute to the girl who couldn't afford one. May the flute gods help you to become one of the best flute players ever. Hope a flute teacher reads this and is touched by your generosity and offers you lessons

  • @zacharycoronado6749
    @zacharycoronado6749 Před 8 lety +1

    Though the frowning embouchure is ideal for Western Concert flute, I clearly remember being taught that, after trying to use the frowning embouchure, that the dizi uses a strong smiling embouchure. My teacher used it, and most pro dizi players I have seen play that way.

  • @SullyGutierrez
    @SullyGutierrez Před 8 lety

    Okay, I just wanted to get this out of my system, and... YOU HAVE THE SAME SPEAKERS AS ME!!! There. Now I feel better.

    • @SullyGutierrez
      @SullyGutierrez Před 8 lety

      Also, I'm starting flute lessons on Monday (I think).

  • @Ilandria.
    @Ilandria. Před 2 lety

    Talk about super late comment... But switching from Oboe to Flute has been a hilarious adventure for me thus far for this very reason.

  • @marvkean3010
    @marvkean3010 Před 6 lety

    OMG this is literally me right now. And right before college auditions too😅😅. So when I first learned flute I had braces and now I don't so I'm working on changing it. It's so hard and frustrating so thanks for making this video it helps to know that someone else has gone through this

  • @calvinchong8740
    @calvinchong8740 Před 6 lety

    You're a star! I still can't frown like you but frowney smile does work!

  • @hellscream8011
    @hellscream8011 Před 7 lety

    Yeah you are perfectly right about "Crisis" :( I have also suffered this crisis, and still sometimes i dont able to play with perfect embouchure, nice tips by the way

  • @frankrusso9940
    @frankrusso9940 Před 2 lety

    Very cool, spot on!

  • @victoriacampbell9365
    @victoriacampbell9365 Před 8 lety

    I've been going through an embouchure change on and off. I went into college and the first thing my teacher told me was that I needed to change my embouchure. I'm almost through my second year and I am still struggling because of some family issues that caused me to not be as diligent with practicing so I am catching up and working towards keeping the embouchure.

  • @stepheeky130
    @stepheeky130 Před 8 lety

    YES I had a smiley embouchure and my teacher made me switch to the frowney as well. It was rough, but I made it. I am so glad b/c my tone is so much better now.

  • @allanjmcpherson
    @allanjmcpherson Před 4 lety

    The oboe prof at UVic is the sort of person who will politely but firmly tell you what you need to change. She won't lie to you. After playing an E flat clarinet solo in a wind ensemble concert, she came up to me and said, "Very fine playing," and on the inside I was going, "Sandra complimented me!!!!"
    And I jokingly tell all by beginning flute students, "You can be happy or you can play the flute. You can't do both."

  • @MrBaxterrify
    @MrBaxterrify Před 2 lety

    "That point where you don't believe in yourself but you do it anyway"-YES!

  • @areggiusado3621
    @areggiusado3621 Před 6 lety

    This is excellent insight!

  • @buzzgirl5413
    @buzzgirl5413 Před 8 lety +1

    When I started I pretty much had a good embouchure so I only had to change a little, but the biggest problem that I had is that on my secondhand my thumb was too far out and it supposed to be in between your pointer finger in your middle finger, so I had to move that in and it was very hard because it became a habit it was just so antagonizing.

  • @DanaOira
    @DanaOira Před 8 lety +1

    I had my embouchure crisis when I first got lessons in grad school (non-music major). My teacher had me switch to the frowny (French style?) embouchure. (If I remember correctly, the smiley embouchure is known as the German style.) She started me off by lightly blowing into the flute to make a whistle tone (no longer than a second) and then when the whistle tone registered, to blow a full note. She said the amount of force we use to make a whistle tone is as light as the force we should use to make a full note., i.e. we should be using the lightest amount of force to make a full note with the frowny embouchure. (I learned over time with the smiley embouchure, I would strain and use a lot of force to force out trouble notes in the upper registers.) That extra step of watching for the whistle tone helped a lot with my awareness of how much force I was using in my airflow. It also helped me to calm down when I was I getting frustrated over the embouchure change by re-framing my focus. I spent hours for two weeks in front of a mirror doing long tones with the whistle tone before every note starting from B2 and chromatically down to B1 and back. Then came the long uphill battle through the higher registers... Whenever I hit a note that I couldn't register after the whistle tone, I did an embouchure check in the mirror. It was usually the smile coming back, so I would adjust and try again. The smile comes back sometimes even after 2 years, but it was a great help to do the change and fix my mistakes. I also had to do it on the piccolo, which is an even bigger nightmare, especially since we're playing pieces that go up to C4. :P It's definitely worth it in the end!

    • @gracehoman66
      @gracehoman66 Před 8 lety +2

      Wow great point about the whistle tone...I'm about a week into my own embouchure change/crisis (!) and I'm totally gonna try that! I heard Pahud make a point recently about how little resistance there is on the flute, so what you're saying kinda makes sense.

    • @DanaOira
      @DanaOira Před 8 lety

      Grace Homan I hope it helps. Good luck with your journey! It will be totally worth it. ^_^

  • @octavioj.saldivar4175
    @octavioj.saldivar4175 Před 8 lety

    To believe or not to believe... That's NOT the question... The thing is TO DO IT. Very interesting because I did a change the way a was breathing and I spent several days practicing the diaphragm respiration in any place and in any time and it worked very good.

  • @kimslover30
    @kimslover30 Před 6 lety

    I'm trying to teach myself to play flute your videos really help my embouchure needs work lol

  • @NoodleyBits
    @NoodleyBits Před 8 lety

    Yeah, I'm commenting on an "old" video...but I wanted to try this out first before commenting. Before first watching, I never even considered my embouchure. I'd been playing the same way since I was ten years old and even then it wasn't referred to as embouchure, I was just told "hold your mouth like this and blow", and later "adjust your mouth a little". I spent some time trying the 'smiley' and the 'frowny' and I did notice a big difference. I also discovered that the frowny works better with my flute, but the smiley works better with my piccolo.

  • @Michiru004
    @Michiru004 Před 6 měsíci

    I'm going through this right now. It's good to hear, that I'm not alone 😂

  • @MrHenry864
    @MrHenry864 Před 8 lety

    I love your channel! I play clarinet but I want to find a channel just like yours but for clarinetists!

  • @dmasz696969
    @dmasz696969 Před 5 lety

    yes, i totally have an embouchure issue with the lower register, i will try the frown face next time i play the flute. I still have a bit of that beginner flute sound that I'm trying to get rid of

  • @huntartist2981
    @huntartist2981 Před 8 lety

    I remember my first embouchure change it was between the end of 8th grade and beginning of 9th grade. I am currently trying to change the embouchure of one of the flutes in my section.

  • @mularaikar
    @mularaikar Před 5 lety

    hi i am suffering with my embosure ,its to the extreme right of my mouth and i get a hissing sound and airy tone ...please advise

  • @Souadani310
    @Souadani310 Před 5 lety

    Thank you so much ! I'm with problems in my embouchure too but the biggest problem is : I'm in the 6 grade and I didn't put my dental appliance/brace yet... Because my lower jaw is further back, is this bad??

  • @Karenonflute
    @Karenonflute Před 8 lety +1

    I have been doing the "frown" thing for a week now and I am totally amazed!! It WORKS!! I'm finding that if I keep that frown going a bit even in higher notes that I am getting a much stronger and clearer sound! Thank you!!!!

  • @FluteHaoran1997
    @FluteHaoran1997 Před 8 lety

    How do you really change your embroil ute though. I really have trouble with it

  • @pveaudry68
    @pveaudry68 Před 7 lety

    Thankfully I naturally do the frown! Sitting here at work at my real job, I was testing my embouchure while listening to this video.

  • @beepsneep7048
    @beepsneep7048 Před 6 lety

    I'm currently going through an embouchure change and it's so rough! I feel like I'm back to my first week of flute playing sitting in front of my mirror and trying my best to make a sound

  • @minimaker5057
    @minimaker5057 Před 8 lety +1

    Hi Joanna :) Great videos!
    Have you ever tried a LefreQue? It's a bridge you put on the flute to connect the tube. I haven't tried it (just found it on the internet yesterday), but I am very curious if it actually works!? Hugs, Martin (from Denmark)

  • @andyongkn69
    @andyongkn69 Před 2 lety

    HELP!!!! I m going thru an embrouchure crisis cos I was not covering the hole enough to hit the high notes. Shd I keep a relaxed embrouchure on my mid range and change into a frowning embrouchure when I go into the Low range? How about the high range notes? What shd my embrouchure be?

  • @ReneeStockton
    @ReneeStockton Před 6 lety

    I started private lessons recently and one of the first things she did was change my embouchure. I couldn’t hit high notes, but I’m already doing better! I used to max out with a super shrill high e but I’m able a (also bad but still progress) high g!

  • @kassieheartsflute
    @kassieheartsflute Před 8 lety

    That was the darkest time of my life....but tbh I'm not sure it's correct now😩 So happy to have another flute major to watch!!

  • @inuyashaxx
    @inuyashaxx Před rokem

    I’ve only been playing for a couple weeks, but luckily I did a lot of research first and have never even tried the smiley embouchure.

  • @buzzinbethan
    @buzzinbethan Před 8 lety

    Following on from this video could you make a video on making the correct embouchure from the start of learn the instrument? It's just I'm a clarinetist but I'm learning fife and hoping to follow in with flute thank you.

  • @45kathie
    @45kathie Před 7 lety

    How do you know when an embrochure change is necessary?

  • @stjacquesremi
    @stjacquesremi Před 6 lety

    hey, I have a question: does the frowning embouchure also helps to do the super high notes? I will have two play a B-flat6 and a C7 two times in a piece and I can't get it out...

  • @oscarrh8005
    @oscarrh8005 Před 3 lety

    I’ve watched this video countless times and I’m like 😭😭 freshman in college trying to major in flute performance but my embouchure is horrendous

  • @celegreentea6028
    @celegreentea6028 Před 5 měsíci

    Great ! Does this embouchure also work best for the higher notes ?

  • @KrisLaKrass
    @KrisLaKrass Před 5 lety

    Haha i was practicing grumpy face since forever! I knew it will be useful!

  • @cognitiongnosis7313
    @cognitiongnosis7313 Před 5 lety

    I keep trying the embouchure as you instructed , but my nose keep moving smh . Didn’t know my nose is connected to my lip muscles 🤦‍♂️. I will practice this. I need an embouchure change. The smile one isn’t giving me the best sound.

  • @oscarrh8005
    @oscarrh8005 Před 6 lety

    I have a really weird embouchure! My bottom lip kinda is really wonky! It’s like not even with the the top and lop sided. I’m also wondering if the Flute is for me and I’m just going to push through this ugh so frustrating!!

  • @Ubertubermeister
    @Ubertubermeister Před 10 měsíci

    3:32 "...how did I even freaking get in to this degree in the first place..."

  • @inamorata5855
    @inamorata5855 Před 6 lety

    Finally, someone who gets the struggle

  • @dmytrognativ2163
    @dmytrognativ2163 Před 5 lety

    When through the same problem in my Masters program. Damn it was tough. I was about to quit. Eventually, everything worked out perfectly.

  • @coucycuocyofyocuovipvpuc7884

    I learned french horn with braces and when i got them off i couldnt even play a halfway decent scale so i relate to this a lot

  • @scottcowan9896
    @scottcowan9896 Před 8 lety

    Can you do a sound comparison between embouchures?

  • @irregular_dream
    @irregular_dream Před 5 lety

    I've been playing the flute for two years and I just now realised that my embouchure was wrong the whole time. (My upper lip is WAY over my bottom lip when playing which makes the air stream go in a downwards motion so my tone sounds pretty bad) I'm currently trying to change this but as soon as my lips touch the flute, they automatically go into that position and if I try anything else it'll just feel weird. I'm starting to get the hang of it but every time I play using the correct embouchure (or any other embouchure for that matter), it sounds terrible.

  • @upwindashley56
    @upwindashley56 Před 3 lety

    where did you get that shirt Joanna? please help us... it's awesome :')

  • @Bassocontinued
    @Bassocontinued Před 8 lety

    I've felt the exact same way especially when incorporating the embouchure for low notes into the actual pieces I was playing. All I have to say is that the embouchure adjustments and intervals in the cadenza in the 3rd movement of the Ibert Concerto was a bitch to learn haha

  • @kamloops2000
    @kamloops2000 Před 8 lety +8

    Ive had to relearn to tongue twice (I am currently relearning for the second time). It is very difficult but hopefully worth it in the end:)

    • @DoctorFlute
      @DoctorFlute Před 6 lety

      How did the change in tonguing go for you?

  • @berryblast6037
    @berryblast6037 Před 4 lety

    As a person who has frowned most of their life, and has smiled on rare occasions... im glad that I do not have to go through this hurdle. The smiling version yields the same result so I can truly sympathize