Victor and Victoria Were Meant to Be | Corpse Bride
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- Many fans of Corpse Bride will attest their ship of Emily and Victor. I'm here to explain why everything about the movie makes the ending perfectly satisfactory for me. Dive in with me as I explore the in-depth symbolism signifying that Victor and Victoria are the superior couple.
- Krátké a kreslené filmy
Someone finally said it.
Victor saw Emily as a good friend.
Also, Victoria didn't have as much as screen time as Emily, but with the short screen time she had, is enough for me to love her and know that she loves Victor deeply. Victor and Victoria are sweet and have a tender chemistry.
Yes finally someone who understands. Also in the begging of the movie victor sets a butterfly free which foreshadows Emily freedom at the end which is what she needed
Exactly! :D I never understood why so many people were unhappy with the movie's conclusion. Every single thing happened the way it should have, in my opinion! :) Emily was finally able to find the peace she needed, and Victor ended up with Victoria, his true love. Not to mention the clever symbolism displayed throughout the film, with the butterflies, flowers, etc. :)
I really like your take on the butterfly being released in the beginning symbolizing how Victor would free her. He may not be what she wanted romantically but he ended up being what she needed. Thanks for such an insightful comment. :)
@@Biggest_Luisa_Fan
People fall in love with Emily- I think it may be as simple as that. They want her to get the love and happiness she deserved, and they don't understand how Victor could prefer _"bland, boring"_ Victoria to someone as lively and vivacious as Emily. They can't (don't want?) to see that Victoria is equally special in her own different way, and a better match for Victor in terms of personality, character and temperament.
To those people who are hating on Victoria, listen to the deleted song for Victor after he found out that Victoria is getting married to another man titled "Erased" it explains everything that Victor is clearly NOT in love to Emily and only loved her as a friend it was removed on the film due to time limit and pretty much explains at the ending scene when Victor didn't say "I love you too" to Emily when she tell him that she loved her
I don't think he ever says "I love you" to Victoria either; BUT he DOES tell her that when he met her he felt he should be together with her always, and their marriage couldn't come soon enough. He never once says anything like this to Emily.
I just noticed one morbid detail that everyone seems to miss in this movie.....when Emily tossed the bouquet and the one old lady caught it and had Maggot on her shoulder doing the kinky eyes at her, I think it foreshadowed that she would be the next to die
Why would you hurt me in this way?
On a serious note, that’s actually a neat detail I never considered. I will now ponder on that every time I watch it!
I was gonna say I didn't mean to hurt you lol
Cool
I wanted Victor ending with Emily before, then I re watched the movie after having my own relationships and been grown, and it's abosolutley clear Victor should have ended with Victoria since the very first moment they met.
It's interesting for sure how aging changes my perspective on films I watched as a child for sure.
That’s why it’s such a good movie
I always feel like Emily x Victor shippers are either young or have no relationship experience. I always saw Victoria as the best match for Victor and never got an indication that he liked Emily romantically. You can become attached to someone and care for them without wanting to date them.
I'm honestly scared to read the comments of corpse bride related videos and playlists because the amount of hate some people shed on Victoria is overwhelming. So I am glad I found your video because it is so comforting to find someone who shares my opinions on the movie, that I actually teared up during your video.
Aw I’m so glad you were able to enjoy and that the video touched you. Your comment is so wholesome and made my day. I guess you really live up to the name “Sweet Evie”.
I was always going for Victor and Victoria. It would be great if there was a scene with Victor and Victoria singing a duet about how they accept each other for themselves despite what society says.
Oh, that sounds like a scene from my dreams.
There was a deleted scene of Victor singing of how he was heartbroken to hear that Victoria is getting married to another man looked it up it's titled "Erased" it was removed from the film due to time limit
@@daddy_loraxx I had no idea there was a song about this. Thank you!
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YES. YES. THIS.
Emily is amazing and I love her, and yes she does deserve so much more than she ever got and it's tragic she never did. But _Victoria_ is Victor's soulmate and counterpart-- the one best suited to him in temperament outlook and personality, the one he felt he belonged with-- and she is equally as amazing in her own right. It's just that this is not _her_ story.
... I *wish* more of her shippers understood this!
I love the love in the comment section.
I always thought it ended perfectly. Victor and Victoria belonged together. Also it would have been sad if he’d ended up with Emily. That wasn’t really what he wanted and Emily never would have been freed. I thought it was such a beautiful moment when she finally let go and turned in to butterflies. As for people who like to say Victoria has no personality she’s not given as much time as Emily but still manages her o sneak out of her house to try and find Victor help and was making an attempt to get away again after her parents barred her doors and widows. She’s shown to be brave, kind, considerate, selfless and loyal all in just a few scenes.
I totally agree I never wanted him to be with Emily she was sweet but extremely selfish even after he told her it was a mistake and he would never marry her she still wanted to hold him hostage. He only agreed to marrying her was because he though Victoria loved someone else so she was a 2nd option
I agree with Victor & Victoria being the right pair..but how is that selfish of Emily tho? She loved him..if anything the one at the fault is Victor using her as 2nd option. Like u said he never loved her he just pitied her.
@@rohanrash953 because when goodnick told here that their marriage wasn’t real and that death departed them she said if he finds out he’ll leave she knew he didn’t want to be there but still wanted to keep him there and she didn’t want to tell him so to me that’s selfish
@@sexyslim92 agree with ur opinion but in my defence she kinda liked him more than he liked her which made her wanting to do small selfish thing like this..but I never understand why Victor keeps going back & fourth btw two girls who he never showed any much feelings. At the end of the day it's just opinion 😅tho
@@rohanrash953 he didn’t really go back and forth he made it very clear that he didn’t want to be with Emily when he told her why can’t she understand I would never marry u!! If that’s not crystal clear then idk what is.
@@sexyslim92 then he continued to accept her to marry her tho nobody hypnotized him& remember he only said that when Emily caught him ...if this situation ever happens in real life I know everybody will be blaming the boy lol
YES FINALLY I LOVE THEM TOGETHER IT'S A PITY EVERYONE HATES THEM :(
I don't! *TeamVictoria*
Since a was a child I supported Victor and Victoria. Because, even if Emily was awesome, she seemed, to me, to want something different. She was capable to her goals, and help Victor with things too. That’s friendship. Victor and Victoria wanted to try from the bottom of their heart to love each other and to chose each other since the beginning to the end. That’s what I remember🧐
dude I was so completely engulfed by this video that I was honestly shocked when it was done and I saw it's 17 minutes long. great work, I enjoyed every second :)
Oh thank you so much. This comment means a lot to me. I haven’t been uploading for a while because I know I don’t have high quality equipment or an easy listening voice. In short, lately my self confidence hasn’t been great and I keep staring at my other projects I have partially finished wondering if people actually would want to watch or not.
Thank you for your kind words.
@@RolloDescendant heyyy
Please do share more of your projects with us
It's alright if your equipments aren't as fancy as others'
I'm really curious to know more about your opinions and perspectives on other stuff because this video essay was really insightful and eye-opening
^^
You've got my full support
@@franco7091 Your comment completely made my day! No worries, I have plenty of projects in the works.
Ok now I'm gonna send this video to anyone who dares to insult Victoria for ending up with Víctor. 'Cause I have seen it several times and I just don't get why they hate her so much. She's so cute, kind, brave and selfless :(
I loved your vídeo 💛
Thank you, this comment completely made my day! And the fandom confuses me too. Victoria is so sweet.
@@RolloDescendant Honestly no she has no personality she is so boring! She saved Victor from someone? No! She gave precious gift to him? No! Spent more time with Victoria? No! They had in the beggining actually forcing wedding and Victoria is just boring character but Emily no! She saved Victor she gave a gift to him she spent more time with him and has personality! Victora Is boring as Ayano aishi but she is at least yandere
@@RolloDescendant YES I LOVE HER
@@rachelgardnerray9977
Honestly, yes.
Victoria is not boring. We just don't get as much of a chance to get to know her, because she is not a main character. The movie does not focus on her; it is not her story.
She TRIED and FOUGHT as hard as she could to help Victor, or to get him some help; it's not her fault that no one would believe her. Likewise she never really had the time or opportunity to get Victor a gift (and partly that may also be because they were not married yet, which is when she would most likely give a gift, if she were going to). The wedding was arranged, but it was not forced: as Victor tells Victoria, he WANTS to marry her, very much-- he was just extremely nervous. And he is CRUSHED to find out he is too late.
Emily is able to save Victor's life, mainly because she is already dead, so she cannot be killed again. Victor spends more time with her, but it's still only about one day... and for most of that time *_she is literally holding him captive, against his will_* (--which is another thing, by the way, that Victoria _does not_ do).
Victoria may not be as lively and vivacious as Emily; and NEITHER IS VICTOR. Victor and Victoria are mirror counterparts. They are both introspective, contemplative, poetic/dreamy. They are BOTH "boring", if you want to call it that. But after all, anyone who can face up to Lord Barkis the way Victoria does when she hands him the news that There Is No Money, has definitely got some spirit and personality as far as I'm concerned. She is a very different person than Emily, but she is equally as amazing, in her way.
@@rachelgardnerray9977 Ratio
I agree so much with your points! I thought I was the only one who shipped them
Yay I’m not the only one!
Same
As much as Emily has a great personality, getting married to a corpse... That wouldn't smell great at all
Thank you. I ship Victor and Victoria, they’re so sweet and I imagine them leavening the town and their terrible parents to have a new and happier life together ❤
While I think Victor and Victoria's relationship is definitely not OTP status, I understand why they ended up together over Emily. For one. Emily's arc in the movie was not about finding love again, it was about finding peace and letting go. It wouldn't make sense if she ended up with Victor because it would undercut her entire character arc and overall story. Secondly, I agree with your assessment, Emily was not in love with Victor. She was in love with the idea of Victor. The idea of being married, the thing she wanted so much and what she died for.
They are OTP status???
I think most people who like Victor and Emily together do so because of the passion between them. They both play piano and they both love animals, there’s a fire when they understand each other and make music together. Victor and Victoria are sweet and peaceful, which is why I also understand this point of view.
I'm so grateful I first watched it when I was 22 , hence having more mature grasp than if I watched in younger age ... and I'm so happy that Victor and Victoria ended up together .
“Tanks for joining me in this adventure but it’s time to find your own”
My dad and I are watching horror, or Halloween, and dark movies for this whole month of October. We watched Corpse Bride a few days ago which kinda worried me a bit, as my dad never really grew to appreciate Stop-Motion as animation, and that it was a musical, something my dad isn't fond of.
Good news is he actually enjoyed it a lot. But while I was tearing up at the ending and watched Emily turn to butterflies accepting freedom, my dad was a bit irked. Saying she should have had a happy ending and be with Victor. I never saw too much in Victoria, and Emily was lovely to me, but I nowadays see the bittersweet undertones with Emily moving on and Victor/Victoria being together.
This video actually helped me. explaining better what I couldn't figure out as my set view of the ending. Because part of me loved and hated it with Victor being with either of the women but i didnt reslly know what would have actually been the best choice. I like Emily/Victor, but definitely the ending had the best choice of Victoria/Victor.
Yes finally someone has a brain they are meant to be
Having a brain can be refreshing.
Yes!!! So glad you did this movie! I seriously love this movie!
Isn’t it the best? I had this project started back in October but I kept putting it off. I’m so glad I finished it. The sad part is I had new insights as I was editing but I didn’t want to make it overlong.
Yes, yes, YES! You are SO RIGHT! I don’t think I could’ve said it better myself! I love Victor x Victoria, too! Thank you so much!
I love your enthusiasm!
@@RolloDescendant 😁😊
I really feel part of the flaw with the relationship, comes down to the very short runtime. 77 minutes and only two shorts scenes of them talking as opposed to a lot more with Emily. We also only see Victoria on her own once, and that scene is very rushed and ultimately unsuccessful for her. I always felt this movie needed more screentime to develop everyone
I don't know, the romanization of an arranged wedding makes me feel gross. No matter how good they are together, with either woman, Victor ends up with no choice. At least he fell in love with the woman he was forced to marry... Oh god it makes my skin crawl.
Reading this comments makes me realize that Victoria is in the exact same situation except for the corpse thing. She didn’t have a choice too. It’s extemely lucky for the both of them that they’re in love with each other, because most people in arranges marriages don’t have the same luck.
I always ship Victor x Victoria.
I’m a person who can base herself on emely my mom told me one day that not everything is about me and that kinda hurt because I had gone through a lot. One day I told my 1 year old crush that I liked him even though we almost never talked he told he had a girlfriend and that we could still be friends that broke my heart then it happened again only this time I broke off the relationship we were building because I felt committed to say I love you too early and I felt suppressed by that very emotion then I went on ahead to confess to my other 1 year old crush and he also said that he had a girlfriend I was being selfish too by not paying attention to the people around me I don’t know how to get over someone this is messing up my work and I overthink it so I can relate to emely in a way.🙃
Also I don’t think this is a sad story I just based myself on a character and I don’t think this is an experience because I didn’t talk a lot to my crushes so on first hand I don’t have experience and I don’t care the only thing I can do is not be hurt and move on to the next one🙂couse I mean who needs it when you don’t understand the feelings of others🙃
Thank you so much. Great video!
I was utterly shocked at how people bash Victoria or even Victor because Emily didn't end up with Victor in the end. Since I was a kid, I always see the ending make complete sense (or the whole plot actually). Growing up and re-watching some cuts on CZcams, oh damn the hate comments in the section are just beyond me.
It was obvious from the start that the person Victor has feelings for is Victoria. He liked Emily only as a friend, and he didn't want to hurt her, also because he was deeply hurt that Victoria's about to marry someone else - that's why he agreed to wed Emily. He has never loved her romantically. I wonder how people interpreted that way since there has been so signs in the film.
As for Emily, I think she's likely to be in love with the idea of marriage/love rather than with Victor himself. Since he accidentally put that ring on Emily, she consistently said he's her husband and showed affection for him without actually having a decent conversation with him first. If that was a different man, probably Emily would have reacted the same way. But of course, she could grow to love him for real after seeing how kind he is.
The ending makes complete sense: (this is stated/showed in the movie already lol): Emily and Victor don't belong to each other, both romantically and literally as Emily is dead.
The key point of the movie is the journey for Emily to overcome her trauma and so she could finally move on. She could not be truly happy if she just stayed the way she was in the beginning: in love with the idea of marriage to a point that may drag others in against their will. Happy ending for all 3 characters.
Thanks for adding your thoughtful insights!
After just finishing the movie yesterday, I absolutely adore your video essay about the movie, tq so much, Corpse Bride and Coraline are undoubtedly one of my fav movies of all time
I had just watched the movie and was kinda confused on who I should root for but I was leaning a bit to victor and victoria and it was because of most of the reasons you said since I noticed he only was going to mary Emily when he herd Victoria was already getting married and since it really did seem like he just felt bad for emily but after watching your video I now realized emily was selfish in the movie until around the end so nowI still love emily but I officially ship victor and Victoria
Plus their names are litteraly victor and Victoria so im pretty sure they were made for eachother
I love how this essay was made! It really explains that feeling I had about the ships and you've put it the way that I can't! Fantastic!
I really appreciate your comment. I keep wondering if I should attempt making for videos since my public speaking isn't great. I'm really glad people seem to like this video in particular.
My mom and I agree. I also understood why Emily because he had some things in common with each other. But she is DEAD and due to that they can't be. I wouldn't be with a corpes due to many reasons. One I want children but I'm sure because she is dead she must smell u know dead. But as a kid i almost felt Emily is better but if she was alive.
Victoria is still a better suited match for Victor in terms of personality and temperament (also the fact that if Emily were alive, she'd be significantly older than Victor)
Emily would ideally do best with someone as vivacious and lively as herself.
I always love watching videos about people ranting about what Hill they would die on
Do you have any such Hill(s)?
I absolutely love this video it's done so incredibly well it's a shame you only have a few subscribers because this is easily on par with videos with creators who have millions of subscribers please continue to make more amazing content like this
Thank you Soy Boy! I really appreciate this. Don't you worry, I have plenty of video essays in the works. Welcome to my channel.
I personally have a theory regarding the interpersonal conflict that Victor and Victoria both experience with the Everglot family. In the scene in which the sung expository sequence takes place to the beginning melody of "According To Plan" from the perspectives of Finis and Maudeline Everglot (Victoria's parents) we can see that Victoria's parents have an underlying feeling of resentment and of contempt for their daughter as they are passing by the portraits of the different Everglot male ancestors, they reach an inverted portrait of an infant Victoria who could initially look like a baby boy at first glance. Then as they spin her portrait back into its correct orientation, Victoria's true self is thusly revealed. As her parents were passing through the hallway containing her childhood portrait, they were singing about the immense expectations that they had thrusted upon Victoria's shoulders because they were drowning in financial poverty and this information can easily be interpreted visually, however, Victoria is entrusted with responsabilities that would have more commonly been allocated or assigned to a male heir, meaning that another reason as to why their relationship is incredibly strained is because of the fact that they erroneously believe that if they had given birth to a son, their problems would have been comparatively lessened which is of course completely relative to the time period and not true at all which adds another undercurrent of complexity to Victoria's personal journey and another element of sadness to her struggles with her own self-esteem and in finding her place in a male-dominated society which has continually deprived her from the opportunity of pursuing her dreams and her most authentic expression of self in the name of supposed "traditions." I also believe that what deepened her relationship with Victor was the fact that he was immediately accepting of Victoria, never once judging any of her most deepest aspirations and goals in life. Victor is therefore deeply enamored with Victoria because of her emotional resiliency, immense situational and artistic awareness and intelligence and quiet strength, qualities which he himself also posesses but often fails to see in himself.
This comment has amazing insight into Victoria I hadn’t considered before! I can see the parallel between their two lives being such a strong bond for them. They are both the first to accept each other as they are. I love this.
THANK YOU! You explained the meaning of the movie beautifully 🤍
It's reported that at the end of the 1946 premiere of La Belle Et La Bête, the actress--some say Greta Garbo, some say Marlene Dietrich--cried out in dismay, "Give me back my Beast!" (Or words to that effect.)
This, I read, was director Jean Cocteau's intent, an inversion of the original fairy tale. Disney, on the other hand, for their The Little Mermaid, opted for a more traditional "And They Lived Happily Ever After" ending, instead of Hans Christian Andersen's more elevated and spiritual original ending, where the heroine, as Emily did, ascends to Heaven.
I cannot, by the way, take credit for picking up on the difference in Andersen's story ending. A reviewer highlighted it years ago when I was listening to a Roman Catholic radio station movie critic. But in a similar vein, my daughter once expressed her disappointment in the last Narnia story, The Last Battle. It didn't end like a stereotypical fairytale with a happy ending occurring in a typical mortal manner, but instead it was was the big apocalyptic wrap up...analogous to Christianity's Second Coming. Which is to be expected, after all. The Narnia Tales are analogous of Christianity.
Again, it's all similar to the bittersweet ending of LOTR. Frodo is unable to savor the fruits of his victory and must leave Middle Earth to be healed
Bittersweet endings are a painful yet splendid thing. It takes guts to write them.
Am I the only one who thinks that Victoria resembles Sally?🤔
This is a fantastic video!
SLAYYYYY FINALLY IVE FOUND MY PEOPLE
I love your explanations!!! This made more sense!!!❤
Thank you so much. This video makes me so happy! I even thought I was crazy because everywhere I saw people saying Emily is better than Victoria.
I have loved Victoria's character from the beginning and Emily, even tho she was the protagonist, didn't feel right to me. I like her, I sure do, but not like Victoria.
But I couldn't pinpoint exactly what was the problem, and now I finally understood: it was all about Emily, not about her and Victor. That was what rubbed me in the wrong way. I loved when she realized she couldn't be so selfish and take the happiness of two people for her sake.
This movie truly is perfect!
I agreed.
Honestly your commentary on this ship is super relevant to Trisha Paytas and Moses Hacmon's relationship it's like eerie lmfao
Haha I don’t follow Trisha Paytas but I’d love to hear more how you come to that conclusion.
I remember being little and I always liked Victor and Victoria, I thought they were the cutest damn thing I've ever seen and while I really did like Emily too I always felt it was kind of wrong that she was kind of going to kill him to marry him
This deserves more like👁👄👁👍
What are the songs that are playing in the back
There were some royalty free harpsichord songs I found online but I'm having difficulty finding the names. I'm horrible about keeping files once I've used them.
The classical songs are "Moonlight Sonata" by Bach, "C Major Prelude" by Bach, and "Gymnopedie no 1" by Satie.
I'll see if I can find the harpsichord songs since they had more generic titles. Digging through my history is a nightmare.
I love Emily and Victor together but I also love Victor and Victoria together 😭 although Victor and Victoria are “only together” due to their arranged marriage but they genuinely did care about one and other, Victoria STILL stood by Victors side when he was in the underworld and on the brink of being exiled, and unfortunately that’s when he acknowledges his relationship with Emily. Perhaps if Emily and Victor had met under different circumstances they would of been together, but ultimately both Victor and Emily’s relationship was selfish, and she couldn’t do that to Victoria, as it already happened to her. All Victoria wanted was to get married with someone she loved.
If Emily and Victor had met under different circumstances it would be worse because of how selfish Emily is, especially because of her obsession with getting married. Besides, Emily deserved to rest in peace.
People who say this have no media literacy
Hi! :D New subscriber here!! I'm Liz! Wow, this video was amazing! I agree with every single one of your points! This is always how I've felt about this movie in terms of the relationships of these characters, and everything else, as well! :D For so long, I honestly thought I was the only one, before watching this video lol!😅 Thank you so much for this! I couldn't have expressed my thoughts on Corpse Bride any better myself!😊 It's truly one of my favorite movies ever!♥
Heeey welcome to my small channel. I’m so glad it’s being filled with positive people such as yourself. I appreciate your feedback and positivity in the comments. I know my uploads are very erratic right now but no worries I have plenty of fun things in the works.
Also, I love the enthusiasm. I love Corpse Bride a lot too even though I don’t like a lot of Tim Burton’s other works. Something about this movie is so good!
@@RolloDescendant Oooohh!! That sounds awesome! And you're very welcome!🥰
@@RolloDescendant I know, right?! I actually haven't seen a lot of Tim Burton films myself, but I absolutely love this one! I first watched it back in 2016, and it's been one of my favorite movies ever since!🥰
I liked Victor and Victoria the first time I saw them as a child. But I didn't know why.
"right Person Wrong Time"
Victoria is the better match in terms of personality, outlook, and temperament, and she is the one Victor wants to be with and feels he belongs with.
Love is love, if Victor does not want to marry her he does not have too ❤
YES
Okay okay let’s calm down on the VV ship, I understand the relationship / love triple between the three but I feel you went extremely hard on Emily. I feel Victor and Victoria was gonna end up together and honestly I feel either choice would of been good. Emily was kinda a woman of her word as she did made a promise that she would be with the one that fines her as she did try to understand him not trying to manipulate him as that’s the problem with today where people feel that kindness and manipulation is the same. Victoria needed Victor’s kindness as much as Emily needed a good man like Victor.
That's an interesting point. I definitely wasn't trying to trash on Emily in the video but made conclusions based off of what I saw. Kindness certainly isn't manipulation and I may have misconstrued some of her genuine kind acts. Either way, I still think she acted selfishly which is why I'm inclined to lean towards Victor being with Victoria.
I appreciate you chiming in. It's harder to be the lone voice of one opinion in a sea chanting the opposite. However, I think Emily's character arc in the film is realizing that she has to let go and to let her soul be at peace despite not having a fair ending to her life.
@@RolloDescendant I agree with you on that
Victor liked and cared about Emily. He felt compassion for her. He did not LOVE her. It was Victoria he wants to be with, the whole movie; it's when he felt he'd lost his chance with her, that he decides to stay and try to make Emily happy. "In other circumstances," as he says, he might very well have been happy enough with Emily; but Victoria was his counterpart, in personality, character, and temperament.
--All this is NOT in any way meant as a knock on Emily, who is amazing, and absolutely deserves so much more than she ever got; it is just sad that so few seem to realize that Victoria is just as equally amazing, in her own way.
@@StoryMing You said this so succinctly and eloquently in a way that I couldn't quite get to. Thank you for this great comment.
@@StoryMing I agree with you
On the contrary as a simp, we would all choose Emily lmaoo
(Sorry to the people who it is inaccurate to)
I know someone who looks just like Emily 🥵🥵🥵🥵
In a corpse way or in the beautiful, animation sexy way? (o . O)
@@RolloDescendant beautiful way
Why does victor string Emily along though?
At one point he plays along with Emily to trick her into allowing them to go to the world of the living. He knows there's no other chance she'll let him go unless he can somehow convince her otherwise. So for a short time he lies that he would like his parents to meet her in order to try to smooth things over with the Everglotts. (Only, then he overhears Victoria's father saying that if they ever see Victor, he'll wring his neck) at which point he visits Victoria herself.
After Emily catches him, he lays out his true feelings on the table and it's only later when he hears Victoria is going to marry someone else that he relents to marrying Emily because, at that point, he really feels he doesn't have anything to live for.
Yea but I liked Emily more and if he died and ended up with her and told his parents or Victoria that “even though I’m dead I’ve never felt more alive” but that’s kinda just my opinion
With this hand I will cup your... What's that supposed to mean? As a non native speaker I didn't quite get it. Could someone explain? 😛
Haha it’s an adult joke. He’s trying to remember his lines and accidentally almost says he will cup her breasts. You can tell because he gestures as if he is about to. Cheers.
@@RolloDescendant got it now, thank you 😉
It would honestly be hard to choose either, because how do you really know they will be right for you? Just because you like Victoria and she likes you doesn't mean she'll be right for you (plus you guys didn't spend much time together), and just because you don't like Emily now means she's not right for you(You know a lot about emily in a short amount of time). I would like to think myself as a Victor and Victoria shipper, but its been kinda hard to pick now.
what emily needs is to rest in peace. if someone likes you and you too is right for you
@@demonghost8232 yess
That's not 100% true. Victor's parents mentioned another woman. That was most likely Emily. Emily knew Victor's name before he told her. Emily was the lady that Victor was originally going to date and marry. Emily met Victor when she was alive. Emily has been dead for two years. There is a parallel universe where Emily listened to her parents and married Victor.
I’m going to pretend everything you said is not true and made up
Victor's mother says "he doesn't even know any women". Other than that, I can't remember where "another woman" for Victor is mentioned. And it never says HOW MANY years Emily has been dead. We are only told it was "some years ago".
I was debating about commenting on this thread but they're referring to the plotline where there's a scandal surrounding Victor. It's very brief and easy to overlook but basically someone saw him on the bridge with Emily the day he initially runs into the woods and she takes him away to the land of the dead. That's the main reason the Everglots had to find a new husband for Victoria pronto: the town was abuzz with the new gossip of this other woman and it was already sullying their name. (Plus the original arrangement was pressing for time to begin with). It's a plot device to force the hand of Victoria's quick marriage to Lord Barkiss.
I don't care about Victor he was a jerk, Emily was the best character and the only one who had a good development throw the movie
Jerk? Victor wanted to fulfill his promise to emily but emeily declined because she knew he is already taken
victor should’ve been with Emily they obviously have a better dynamic.
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO?!
Help did you even watch the video
This comment thread is the best thing that's happened to me for a while.
Better dynamic?
...You mean, captor and hostage?
I still think Emily was better she was beautiful even as a corpse
emily and victor had more chemistry than with victoria plus victor and victoria sounds like siblings
Nah, they just had more screen time.
...and that Emily is the one with the livelier more colorful personality. But that does not make her the best match _for Victor._
I totally agree I never wanted him to be with Emily she was sweet but extremely selfish even after he told her it was a mistake and he would never marry her she still wanted to hold him hostage. He only agreed to marrying her was because he thought Victoria loved someone else so she was a 2nd option
Yeah it’s so perfect that he ends up with Victoria. My favorite ship. 🥰
Victoria is so mature and composed, literally a perfect match for anyone. she’s cute as hell too and actually alive.. lol