Trevor McDonald Explores The History Of South Africa's Apartheid | Our History
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- To mark what would have been Nelson Mandela's 100th birthday in 2018, Sir Trevor McDonald is back in the country where he conducted one of television's most historic interviews.
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Nearly three decades after they met in the immediate aftermath of Mandela's release, Trevor returns to explore South Africa - hearing the stories of very different people who sum up a nation changed beyond all recognition since his first reports from the country in the mid-1980s - today a very different nation no doubt, but is it still a land of division and extremes? What has become of the Rainbow Nation?
This film was first broadcast: 19 Jun 2018
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South Africa's history should not be oversimplified because it's very complicated. That applies to Apartheid and the history of the world at the time. Any views which ignore the fact that racism existed and still exists in the world could only come to a superficial conclusion.
Yes, it still exist and its atrocious to think that people want blacks to forget about the past.
Well what should have been a change in South Africa when we voted ANC in in the 1994 Election we as SOUTH AFRICANS expected a better life SINCE ANC CAME INTO POWER but instead more HARDSHIP POVERTY CRIME AT IT'S HIGHEST LEVEL OUR YOUNG PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED JOBS ONLY FOR BLACKS SO ANC NEVER KEPT TO THEIR PROMISES TRANSFORMATION OUT OF THE WINDOW WELL WE VOTED ANC IN IN 1994 AS SOUTH AFRICANS WE THOUGHT COMING A BETTER LIFE FOR ALL IN SOUTH AFRICA BUT OUR BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT AFTER ELECTION ANC NEVER KEPT THEIR PROMISES
THE ONCE BEAUTIFUL SOUTH AFRICA UNDER ANC RULE IS NO LONGER THE BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY OF MILK AND HONEY GOING TO CAPE TOWN AROUND THE CASTLE LOOK LIKE SQUATTER CAMPS WITH SHACKS ON PAVEMENTS UNDER THE BRIDGE PEOPLE IS SLEEPING IN MAKE SHIFT SHELTERS
ANC HAS PROVEN THEY CANNOT GOVERN 3O YEARS IN POWER SOUTH AFRICA IS NO LONGER THE BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY OF MILK AND HONEY
SHAME ON YOU ANC MINISTERS SITTING IN PARLIAMENT THEY ARE ONLY THERE TO ENRICH THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES
WHAT A DISGRACE ANC
WHAT A DISGRACE
@@neesaadams9274they wanted to hold on to apartheid but what about their apartheid NOW for years
Apartheid still going on since 1994
Im gonna let you in on a secret, it was never about color, it was always about behavior.
the guy in the pink shirt said it best, "Democracy is for those with money," sad but very true indeed.
Same everywhere.
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That is what stuck with me
democracy is for those who uplift THEMSELVES istead of waiting for someone else to do it FOR them.
True 😢😢😢 he touched me honestly
I am proudly South African. I was born during Apartheid and never understood it. As white school children we regularly had to practice fire drills and bomb scare drills. Some were real some weren't. I did not come from a wealthy home. If you were white and mixed with black people. Your phone was tapped and you were watched and in some cases murdered under sinister circumstances. South Africa today is still a divided country within races and across races. The colours of the rainbow are separate. Yes today I refer to South Africa as the licorice all sorts nation. They are sweets that are colourful and represent for me the unity in our country. I worked as a teacher for decades and soon realised we are pretty much all the same. I thoroughly enjoy your documentaries. You are one of the reasons I fled an abusive relationship because I commented to my then abuser that you spoke English so eloquently. Keep on being Awesome. Blessings from South Africa. Sue
as a higher class south african being kept into the compounds of the secruity estate while i grew up i didn't know south africa was like this, we had different races in our gated communites, i thought all of south africa was equal, but the man in the pink shirt really opened my eyes and i feel for these people who struggle, the ANC have been making promises for 20+ years, i wish for nothing but the best for the people of south africa
Sending love from KwaZulu-Natal, ZA🇿🇦
Sir Trevor doing it again. Very impressive. I am a Media Practitioner from Botswana, neighbors to South Africa. We were a refugee to Mandela and his comrades. Great storytelling...
Excellent documentary.
As the reporter said, this is an amazing country. One wonders what he'll say of the new South Africa. Nothing works, people are dying from cholera, corruption is the main product produced etc. And yet it still remains the country I love so dearly. Pity "our peolpe" were misled for almost 30 years. Let's hope the real South Africa will rise again
The real south africa is what happened for 300 years. Do you think changes could come in just 30 years. Who the fu@#$%ck cares about a few hundred white people in poverty, their are still millions of black people in poverty.
You want the racist one to rise up again?
When , time the most important resources matters a lot. 30 years is too long for a change. The young apartheid free generation are unemployed. Crime, inflation, corruption,lawlessness is the order of the day.
South Africa going back to normal... 😂
@@akoamoseetave3091 Think what you saying is another 30 or more years is needed?
🤝thank you and love from Suid-Afrika🇿🇦
Love my country ❤🇿🇦. Deserves better leaders though shem.
Agreed
Mr Trevor attracts me always from India.
South africa is a great country 🇿🇦
For the rich
Ah no
Thanks for this love Trevor McDonald ❤
Beautiful movie!! thank you for making it! Learned a lot about history and present situation in South Africa...
Thank you for highlighting this. My home country 🇿🇦
t.i.a
Blacks Did-own Property, in the Homelands .
@@manueldumont3709 Dont worry they want now the whites properties also. SABC now would never do an expose on that happening. Old heads wanted to expose the past government. New SABC guys silent
Great ending to a very diverse and complex story of South Africa
Blessings to all. Humbles one.
My country South Africa 🇿🇦
debatable.
debatable indeed!
Indian??
@@africantraveller8303 Not debatble South AFRica is rainbow nation
@@africantraveller8303 Its not
Loved watching this documentary ❤
Love from the United States. I find South Africa an intriguing country with rich diversity. Many of us here in the United States drew a lot of comparison to our past of racial segregation and inequality and saw Nelson Mandela heralded as a peacemaker. Unfortunately, in both of our countries, there's still a lot of work to be done. Some parts of the U.S. are more segregated now than they were 30 years ago. Having grown up in Memphis, Tennessee back in the 90's, I have seen first hand things actually getting worse. But it's not all bad. I live in Atlanta now. In the wake of the George Floyd protests, I saw a lot of white, Black, Hispanic, and Asian people come together to stand for justice. Not everyone in this country is asleep.
The "foreigner mean Non-Afrikaner" part 🤣🤣🤣
I think in South Africa 🇿🇦 should be none gang related prison, where none gang related people will be jailed. Gangs related people should be arrested in their own jail.
I concur
Thank you we need more of you
Great story telling 👍🏽
Incredible as always. Trevor McDonald is sheer class.
I grew up watching Trevor McDonald. He is pure class ! An amazing career.
Very informative documentary
Mac Maharaj's voice is just a breath of fresh air.
Very good! I learn a lot that I dont know before
Ons mense, dit is moeilik maar lekker 🙏👍
Great video
Trevor mcdonald is such an awesome interviewer:))much respect
Thank you sir for the documentary I learnt a lot.
I didn't realize Trevor McDonald both met and interviewed Manela in 1990 right after the latter was freed.
Currently- I am assiduously reading: " The New Apartied." This immensely insightful documentary depict the racial and economical inequalities. Seems like for the poor things are worst post apartied.
You are correct. The post apartheid guys are stealing all the money that should be used for stuff like infrastructure and hospitals etc and nothing gets fixed or built. The country in in such a downward spiral heading towards mass starvation and desease. Even when first world countries donate millions it does not go to the poor. The people in power steal it for themselves. These are facts
Learned a lot about South Africa from this documentary. This is a must watch for anyone interested in learning about pre-and post-apartheid SA
They're fighting for nothing. It coust town, international Laws are running SA. So called fighting for power, but there's no power
It old dvd 📀. So, meny minoritys have been killed there, sorry. Another American talking about SA.
To meny outside antties are involved in SA crimes. I am happy for all of you of you in South Africa.
Freedom unt free. No one is free. The minoritys are living in slams, plakkercumpe
It not Mandela new SA. It Julia's malema new world order Agendas
However...blacks Did-own Property(in the Allocated>(eg. Ciskei, Baphutatswana, etc(which even had their own Prime-ministers))
While segregation was everywhere, America and Europe the only place they called it apartheid was in South Africa.
True but also apartheid ,here in South Africa....was more extreme than segregation itself
1 aspect to remember is the legacy such a system leaves. In Zimbabwe's case bitterness created the situation persisting today.
So basicalyy dont take back what white people stole. Got it.
such an intelligent and insightful documentation!
Thank you
My parents was forced out of there homes in district 6 cape town and today not one family has move back, it just show you that apartheid is still alive
Separation is still alive. This DVD 📀 is very, very old. I have seen this since 1980.
@@francescaharbor1731what "dvd?" The technology wasn't even available in 1980.
@@Mo-yd8xc The Apartheid DVD....It not the first time that this has been exposed to the world. I've seen it numerous times
Even though anc & eff are been in power for the last 30 years. Nothing has changed since then. Are you aware of...
@@francescaharbor1731 I'm pretty sure if I went through there in transit today the ANC would let me leave the airport to visit relatives. In 1973 the apart hate authorities wouldn't even let us leave the airport. My mother told me I kept switching off the lights in the whites only bathroom. She said "the black people who worked there were mortified."
@Mo I was a teen during the apartheid erea. I know now what the African government did in SA. From what I understand. I was tilled not to talk about a Pacific race & I was tilled that minoritys in SA are no longer to say south Africans, we to call south Africa Africans. I took a class at college here & one of my English reading book was talking about Apartheid and what the apartheid government did to the majority in Africa and it was shoking. I have no control over Africa. Nor did I had eney control of what happened in SA. Since me and my siblings were teenagers. We didn't think about politics we was just kids. So in this reading class that I took at college here in America was talking about the reconciliation programs that they started in SA after the fall of apartheid. I was in a class-room with all kids different efnisities. The class was for kids to learn English language and since English was my second language, since I had to take a test in English so they can figure out where or what English class I needed to take. Not only was the black Foulks treated Batley in sa. Some white folks also didn't get the Freedom that they was supposed to get. As you can see for your self, I am still struggling with English language and I was wiped with a wooden spoon on my hand for every misspelled word that I spelled wrong in English class in sa.
The black people should hold their own government liable for the inequality...for 30 years the ANC hasnt once invest in their own people...but enriched themselves
Trevor McDonald is one of my all time favorite interviewers! He’s such a Jewel!
I love the ending, the farm owner is a great man. Business should be conducted this way
Unfortunately that farm has gone bankrupt now
$$$$$$ always the biggest factor of standing and equality from start of time. Will never change.
The story of the farm workers at the end of the documentary gives me hope.
50 years from now the history books on South Africa will simply read: “European colonists first settled on a permanent basis in 1652 and established a society based on a European model. However, unlike other settlements in America, Australia and New Zealand, the colonists always remained a minority and their government was eventually overthrown in 1994 by the majority of indigenous people. Subsequent to that transition, the country quickly regained the system of governance it had prior to colonisation. In such a system, regional and tribal strongmen rule without accountability amassing large personal wealth with no tolerance for opposition. Consequently, development stalled and the standard of living, life expectancy, per capita income, and literacy levels all declined for the broader population.”
Why do European colonists feel the need to settle in our people's land, oppressing the indigenous people? What's so terrible about Europe that entices them to settle on other people's land in in Africa, America, Australia and New Zealand?
In a nutshell...Including Reverse(BlackEconomicEmpowerment...(black)-AffirmativeAction, etc)-Racism .
@@manueldumont3709how do you make up for past inequities?
Lol. Nailed it
@janrabie1890 "European colonists first settled on a permanent basis" why ....?? There where people here already, what kind of entitlement do you think you have ??
There are problems, yes but it will take time to resolve all of them😮😢😢😢
We are still in apartheid and the ANC government is allowing this to happen. Why not cater to all your citizens equally?
Kliptown looks like Mathare in Nairobi.
It doesn't go wrong, it starts wrong. If the system is not fixed NOW to have economic balance, education, and opportunities early, then soon it will be too late. When it starts wrong, it gets worse until it becomes uncontrollable.
Best African civil rights songs. The melody is beautiful. Now with that being said, how in the world you gone allow Europeans to show up on your land, take your resources and tell you where you can go.
its called weakness of the blackman
Fitting end ! some hope ..
Pity that Trevor McDonald, for all his journalistic expertise, decided not to critique the ANC and its deplorable actions which have led a country downhill...
Shut up fool. You are jealous that millions of indigenous South Africans are now millionaires, 65% of the middle class is indigenous South Africans. You are sad that your racist Europeans are now experiencing the poverty they forced our people into. Go back to your country, South Africa is for indigenous people. The ANC is very corrupt just like your apartheid satanic regime.
Typical white response
No pity at all. This was way more important to show! I love seeing this!!!
The country has only gone downhill if you're white and has drastically improved and advanced as shown in this documentary if you're non-white, as we all know that a whiteman's downhill is a blackman improvement and vice versa.
What happened during Apartheid and the leaders that actually destroyed South Africa and her people is much more important and what people want to hear about. Apartheid is the reason S.A. is the way it is now.
"Black people are the biggest consumer. Without black people alt of business wouldn't be in business" I felt that
Africa 😢😢😢😢
Personally I don't think Mandela will look at whats happening to this country led by his ANC gov with "satisfaction"...
It's so upsetting watching those people
SA 2023: Institutionalised racism within the government and it's support base. Race-based ideology deployed through every facet of society. Meanwhile conditions deteriorate on a daily basis in a race to the bottom (that is if there is an actual bottom).
That white farmer at the end spoke honestly. Truth is though, the workers should have more than 50% since it is so many of them & the land is really the property of indigenous ppl as he rightfully stated.
The liberal likes to hand out everything that does'nt belong to him.
Trevor McDonald. I bow down to this man. He is an amazing man. 🎉❤
I love him
South Africa should go the Solmes Delta way of land ownership for peace to prevail.
Apartheid is still alive because the whites still holds onto stolen land
Went bankrupt not long after this was filmed
The British started apartheid when they were still in power
The root cause of all the problems and inequality in South Africa are very simple:
1) When the Dutch arrived in 1652 they encountered people who were still living in the Iron Age. By contrast, the first University in the Netherlands opened in Leiden in 1575. Bologna in 1088 was the first in Europe.
2) There was an obvious difference in development between the Europeans and Africans. Could this development gap be overcome?
3) Possibly, but in SA the population grew from 15,2m in 1955 to 59m in 2020 with the vast majority being black. That is growth of 43,8m people or 288%.
4) The tax base in SA is simply too small to lift millions of people out of poverty. 5.8% of the population is paying approximately 92% of all personal tax and they are also paying about 85% of all VAT. Mathematically, it is impossible.
5) These are gigantic problems and the ANC is not able to solve them. In fact it is getting worse and the load shedding is just evidence of the inability of the ANC government.
6) Add to that unbridled corruption, open borders with an influx of foreigners, an inability to tackle crime and an education system which provides sub standard results, even the biggest ANC supporters have to admit that they can't blame everything on Apartheid.
This is spot on, indeed. South Africa's gigantic's problems are perpetuated by an enormous development gap between the country's main race groups and an insufficient tax base to tackle these issues. And to be honest, I don't see a way out of this conundrum. For sure, the ANC is completely corrupt and has nothing but a kleptocracy to offer. But neither do I see how a non-corrupt government could solve South Africa's problems. The tax base is simply too small.
@@rafaelw8115 You’re gaslighting, probably for militant political reasons. Jan never said that every single white person is more intelligent than every single black person. That would be a ludicrous and racist thing to say. What Jan did say, however, was that when the Dutch came into contact with the Khoi San on 6 April 1652, it was a Renaissance culture meeting a people that where still living in the Iron Age. Even though the Europeans would eventually meet other, more developed tribes such as the Zulu and the Xhosa, it can’t be denied that the Europeans as a group were far more advanced (in terms of science, technology, engineering, philosophy, arts, literature, music, poetry, etc.) than any of the African tribes they encountered. That’s not to say the Europeans were better people, or that black South Africans deserved to be discriminated. But this huge gap in human development does explain in part why it’s been so difficult for these two race groups to coexist in the same country. And to be honest, I’m afraid the situation is almost hopeless for all of the reasons explained by Jan.
@@rafaelw8115 I was merely stating an undisputed historical fact, i.e. the difference in development between the two cultures. The one culture brought with them a working knowledge of trigonometry, mathematics, navigation, physics, a standard measurement system etc whereas the local inhabitants hadn't even discovered the wheel in any applied format. As for why it was so, I don't know, but that is what observable evidence shows.
@@rafaelw8115 And your answers??
@@rafaelw8115 I don't know what there motives were. One should ideally ask them that question but obviously that is no longer possible.
As a black american man, I love this. I'm coming to visit!!!
You are welcome brother, come to Soweto and ask for me.
You can visit cape Town as well I stay in township will show you around
He knows ZA then and now.
Please tell me how you personal see south Africa is now
it has improved
Like the guy said you’re only free if you have money. The racial tension is very much real here and that will probably never change. The inequality is massive and the government has totally messed up the country.
Very sad
Nelson, left us to soon. RIP MADIBA
Do you do documentaries about England and its many issues?
He should explore the present state of apartheid in South Africa, where the ANC, the ruling 'Africanist' party, has re-legislated the most draconian forms of apartheid in the form of black economic empowerment, affirmative action, employment equity and quotas, where 'whites' are excluded from universities, employment, supplier chain contracts, national sports teams, and even, most recently, farmers have to meet black ownership targets - up to 75% - to have access to river water for irrigation.
thats not apartheid happens everywhere in the world, locals and natives should always get more priority
@@mpendakiswahili3053 They are born there what do you mean locals????? Kajifunze huko Mshamba wewe hujui hata history. Yako yamekushinda ya Kukosa umeme na Samia suluhu kuiba pesa. Kuvamia ya watu usiyoyajua
Ons sal hierdie klomp narre ook oorkom en oorleef!
CRY MY BELOVED COUNTRY
ve3ry different Now in comparison to when Alan Paton wrote the book Cry my beloved Country Alan was a friend of my late father.
ow
It’s easy to pull something down, it’s harder to build something up.
Human mental says things should never get worse but reality says things should get worse before they can be better as we come from hateful regimes.
What you did to others will come back to you dont try to forget and hide💯
I love black people. They will always be our heroes. I was raised by my parents and a black woman nanny. I saw her as my own mother. She lived with us cooked for us everything.
Learned but you have that place that still practices what you said you learned from, what did you learn exactly.
I can't believe we still have man like this one who are tying by all means to maintain the apartheid way of living in a democratic country.
Elon Musk will not invest in South Africa even though his family enjoyed the benefits of apartheid where blacks were oppressed. In fact, he wouldn't even talk about South Africa period.
Prove it peanut man
In all countries it should be about lifting the poor to the level of the wealthier. It should not be a policy of chairing the educated away so the poor can have what the wealthier have. As they can’t maintain it with out the experience and Expertise of those that are there now
It's be Amazing, for the world, to Adopt the(socialist)-Mondragon- CoOperative system, in Spain . 🤩🤗
@@manueldumont3709 Socialism in it pure form has been prover to not work. Actually the more government control, the worst it is for the population. As human nature is to control others and lift their own selves and family over others. Total power and control corrupts totally. Some socialist ideas make sense but only in the context of a free opportunity society. A level playing field where everyone contributes flat unavailable tax. Everyone can have opportunities no matter rich or poor.
Spreading the wealth around starts with high-quality education, some affirmative action and better politics than the ANC has on offer. The country SA has the potential to do better.
That young man say it easy , no democracy at all what are we celebrating ?
The history of South Africa under apartheid regime, is the best way to narrate the painful truth ✊
Racism, poverty and inequality are not shocking anywhere in this world...
They Need to FREE LENARD PELETIER 🧡🇨🇦🧡
No one's going to talk about the fact that the reporter looks exactly the same as he did nearly 30 years ago in that video with him and Nelson Mandela!
Reversed apartheid the day has change
Thats the problem with u people!! 😏 use your minds for once
@@nophezavibez1994 I was their in 1966 in Capetown with my parents,but went back to new Zealand,got white living like in slum,,and reversed apartheid,don,t getting no dole ,get nothing,all came from middle Africa
In time 92% living on grants looking after 8%.place going down,people coming over border line ,farmlands documentary by Lauren Southern,on new tube
This is 0.01% of SA history that is why it's not banned by CZcams.
It is apartheid in reverse now. The black ANC have just feathered their own nests. Greed and hatred. What a shame the ANC and EFF have ruined a beautiful country South Africa😭
What nonsense are you talking about ?
God bless the black people still living in townships. I hope they all get moved to luxury houses and a high standard of living for black people not in slumbs not in tents brick and glass middle class for all black people in poverty. God bless black people 🙏🏾 ❤
There is a reason why Mandela used the clenched fist as his symbol.
Democracy is also for those in power.
Africa for Africans, and thanks for the video
THE KICK OUT ALL THE BLACKS FROM THE uK eUROPE AND THE REST OF THE WORLD BACK TO aFRICSA.
Does that mean Africa is for me being a White male born in South Africa with Portuguese ancestry? Or am I less African in comparison to Samuel L Jackson from the states?
Elucidate me on your comment if possible?
@@brunocarreiro7796 Africa for all black and white
@@brunocarreiro7796
Your Homeland is Portugal .
Regardless the fact that you're born in SA
Look at what your Ancestors did in Angola, Mozambique, Brazil .
In Brazil a Kemestu ( black female/ male ) suffer from severe racism and killed daily because they are Kemestu .
You can still claim Portuguese citizenship can you say the same for Kemestu living in SA
Especially without a second option of citizenship
21:36 they don't have a separate identity , WE ARE ALL AFRICANAS BECAUSE WE ARE LIVING IN AFRICA.
28:10 let's ask a question, these poor ppl that can't afford food have guns. Who's supplying them these weapons
That's what comes with the freedom given by oppressors after you apologize for being oppressed, ek sé.
Townships and living conditions isn’t because of apartheid it’s because of incompetent and self care of those who are in power…
all I can say is that apartheid Era was better than this junk we live in under ANC 😢
Paying off for something that belongs to you isn't really yours is it? But it's a starting point for greater change👏🏽
Bear in mind that the land was populated by the Koi and the San people and not the black people. Blacks invaded the country from the north.
Wow black people saying apartheid was better , white privilage was terrible and root cause of what south africa has become ,but regardless what colour you are you cant give people power if they are not prepared to take it.The truth culturally black people were not ready and are not ready still , and its not about skin colour ,its just a different history that gave rise to completley different culture and way of thinking.
There is no rainbow nation .A beautiful country but so much still has to change for the better
9 MILLION WA DLALA
We welcome to Zimbabwe