As it turned out, this was the only time that Hugh O'Brian appeared as a panelist on WHAT'S MY LINE? - as well as being his first time on the show. He would return as Mystery Guest 3 times: on 24 December 1961, on 30 January 1966, and on 27 August 1967 (the next-to-last episode of WML? aired on CBS).
Amazingly, I was able to find stuff on the non-baseball Maris. (I mean, after the early 60s.) Anyway, he was mostly known as Bud, and was originally from Chicago, but he and his family moved to Florida early on. Other than his being in the Navy (Korean War), he basically never left. Had (two) wives, some kids, and ongoing boating and fishing concerns for the rest of his life. Died in 2012. Obit: www.reesefuneral.com/obituaries/Roger-Maris/#!/Obituary
Ironically, baseball's Roger Maris became the owner of Budweiser beer distributors in Florida after his playing career ended. His final stop in the majors was the St. Louis Cardinals, owned by Gussie Busch who also owned Anheuser-Busch. When Maris announced his retirement, Busch got him started in the beer business.
Synchotron The Roger Maris "gag" began a few episodes back. They've clearly found someone with the same name to labour the gag. Maybe he should've said 'the more famous Roger' but hey, It's all just fun really. Cerf's a nice guy.
"Westinghouse Presents: The Sound of the Sixties" aired on NBC on Monday, 9 October 1961, written and produced by Dore Schary, directed by William A. Graham. The TV special featured sketches and songs; among the latter were "Do It Yourself," sung by Art Carney, "If I Loved You," sung by Vic Damone, "Make Someone Happy," sung by Vic Damone and Gogi Grant, "Bless This House," sung by Mahalia Jackson, "Hindemith Sonata" and "Fascinating Rhythm," both played by Andre Previn, "Shenandoah," sung by Gogi Grant and "Yankee Doodle," sung by Tony Randall. Also in the cast were Joyce Jameson, Pat Harrington, Jr., Jackie Joseph, Lennie Weinrib, and Al Shafran.
+Lars Rye Jeppesen Unfortunately, WML lacked consistency in this area. Sometimes, for example if asked if something was animal as opposed to vegetable, fish would be an animal. But other times, animal was synonymous with mammal. WML was a place to get entertained, not to get schooled in anything scientific (especially in the field of biology).
since he chartered the fishing boat, maybe he only captained the boat and others dealt with the fish? I agree that biology has always been a weak point on this show
I agree although I think Daly would consider it such a broad area they wanted to narrow mineral- vegetable-animal products to life with legs or fur and hides if keep it consistant through the years it's fine but hard to do unless they had the same panel for many years at a time.
I wonder how exactly they got the blackboard in place for the signing-in, in the span of 4 minutes? By this point, they no loner went to commercial after the opening.
+What's My Line? Certainly not in the era of IBM mainframes with tape drives, not many years after Mr. Spock was attempting to build a mnemonic memory device out of "stone knives and bearskins."
In earlier episodes, I remember Bennett Cerf hoping that Roger Maris, of the NY Yankees, would be the mystery guest. Is Mr. Maris ever a guest on What's My Line? ?
I refer constantly to this page when I want to know about guests and panelists on What's My Line? in the John Daly era: game.shows.angelfire.com/whats_my_line.html . And from looking it over, it appears that the answer to your question is no.
romeman01 I'd recommend tv.com's listings over that site, though. That site lists only the shows that are in the guy's collection, with no details. The tv.com listings are detailed beyond anyone's wildest expectations. I don't know who worked on it, but they did a magnificent job. I wish I had started out using that log, but I found one elsewhere on a defunct geocities page that I've been using.
Hideously ironic that Kilgallen asked him if Lewis was known for singing voice. He started as a singer, but he made a lieutenant of Al Capone mad and he cut Lewis's throat and tongue in November 1927. Capone paid Lewis a settlement so that he got therapy, and Lewis came back as a comic.
Since when are monkeys " products "? Do you "export " some of your fellow creatures ? Hadn't been for the panel doing their duty with responsibility towards their fellow citizens,I would be ashamed to 👏 Hadn't fir me to be Watching WML for months , recognising some of my grandparents ', parents' way of life , I wouldn't be here now As a mother and teacher,don't take our children, pupils to the circus .It makes me sad how humans ridicule themselves with the "monkey business " Ever grateful to television though, to bring us closer to the 50's,60's
8:07 Arlene at her most devious. While asking a question that would get a 'no' answer, she detects John's reaction and quickly stops without finishing the question so as not to get the 'no'. John Daly lets her get away with it. Her habit of asking a "never-ending" question (of which this is not a good example) while looking for a reaction from John, the audience, or the contestant is irritating and, imo, dishonest. And the worst thing is that she seems to have no shame; she seems to be proud of herself! Martin isn't on hand to disapprove.
You're assuming it was tongue in cheek. I see it the other way. We agree to disagree I guess. Love the show, hated Dorothy in my young days, love her now, esp. her smile!
Omahabigbill Actually, no, I'm not just assuming that Robert's comment was tongue in cheek-- he's been a valued member of the WML community for quite a long time and I know him far better than to believe for a moment that he was intending any serious criticism here. Even if I didn't know him personally, I would never have read his innocuous comment the way you (and, apparently, one other person) did. Take a deep breath, please.
I have come to find Bennett Cerf a mix of ego centrism, some smart and much stupidity [specially with women's good looks and people that were not in the best of physical shape] telling that man he met the real Roger Maris, like he was some kind of copy. Dorothy was the same, making all sort of stupid questions and much self absorb, not very natural or sincere as in Arlene's case.
unfortunately, the producers never did have that talk with John about flipping over those cards for no reason :( I LOVE this show, but to tell ya the truth, I don't know if I can watch it for a second time cause even though I'm REALLY trying to like John (and right now, as much as he grates on my nerves, it's still hard not to like him), but with his flipping the cards over for absolutely no reason (which ruins the entire show), and for his long winded explanations, it's EXTREMELY EXTREMELY annoying!!! :(
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I'm on my second or third time watching these shows, once in a great while I find one I haven't seen.
John Daly had it right when he called Joe E. Lewis one of the
dearest human beings in
their business. He was in theirs
or any other one.
As it turned out, this was the only time that Hugh O'Brian appeared as a panelist on WHAT'S MY LINE? - as well as being his first time on the show. He would return as Mystery Guest 3 times: on 24 December 1961, on 30 January 1966, and on 27 August 1967 (the next-to-last episode of WML? aired on CBS).
Hugh O’Brian was so handsome and dignify looking.
Dorothy sounds pretty well-knowledgeable about their day’s modern music.
Dorothy was a pain in the ass!!!
Dorothy's hair looks lovely today. And she is one of the best dressed ladies in tv.
PAST TENSE, PLEASE.
Happy birthday to my little brother, who was born on the date of that broadcast!
I was turning 1 on the 17th. 🎉 happy birthday to us both!
Hugh O'brian was a good looking, wonderful actor....so handsome! 🥰
Thelonious Monk name checked by jazz fan Dorothy ❤❤❤
Frank Sinatra played him in the movie The Joker is Wild one of Franl's best performances he did the comedy routines very well
Hugh O’Brian was very handsome.
Yes, but a lousy panelist.
The “real” Roger Maris? Really Bennett?
*_CAPTAIN OF CHARTER FISHING BOAT_*
*_EXPORTS MONKEYS (FROM INDIA)_* 20:10 One of the few times I agreed with Bennett.
Amazingly, I was able to find stuff on the non-baseball Maris. (I mean, after the early 60s.) Anyway, he was mostly known as Bud, and was originally from Chicago, but he and his family moved to Florida early on. Other than his being in the Navy (Korean War), he basically never left. Had (two) wives, some kids, and ongoing boating and fishing concerns for the rest of his life. Died in 2012.
Obit: www.reesefuneral.com/obituaries/Roger-Maris/#!/Obituary
Ironically, baseball's Roger Maris became the owner of Budweiser beer distributors in Florida after his playing career ended. His final stop in the majors was the St. Louis Cardinals, owned by Gussie Busch who also owned Anheuser-Busch. When Maris announced his retirement, Busch got him started in the beer business.
The fact that Cerf says, "I met the real Roger" is quite telling and dismissive of the guest.
Synchotron The Roger Maris "gag" began a few episodes back. They've clearly found someone with the same name to labour the gag. Maybe he should've said 'the more famous Roger' but hey, It's all just fun really. Cerf's a nice guy.
@@davidsanderson5918 As a writer, I happen to dislike all publishers. lol
Agreed.
I noticed that Mr. Maris came in OK but through the game he seemed irritated. Perhaps he really did take offense.
Agreed! I just posted something similar. Such an elitist at times.
"The Sounds of The 60s"? Seems a bit premature in 1961... most of the interesting sounds were a few years away. :-) I wonder who was on it...
"Westinghouse Presents: The Sound of the Sixties" aired on NBC on Monday, 9 October 1961, written and produced by Dore Schary, directed by William A. Graham. The TV special featured sketches and songs; among the latter were "Do It Yourself," sung by Art Carney, "If I Loved You," sung by Vic Damone, "Make Someone Happy," sung by Vic Damone and Gogi Grant, "Bless This House," sung by Mahalia Jackson, "Hindemith Sonata" and "Fascinating Rhythm," both played by Andre Previn, "Shenandoah," sung by Gogi Grant and "Yankee Doodle," sung by Tony Randall. Also in the cast were Joyce Jameson, Pat Harrington, Jr., Jackie Joseph, Lennie Weinrib, and Al Shafran.
They seem to do that with every decade and of course two or three years in the sounds change.
They would've had no idea what was about to hit them
I recognize 3 of those last 5 from the Billie Barnes Revue, whose members showed up all over '60s television.
How could they get a NO for the fishing boat captain about "any animals involved"?? How about tons of fish???
+Lars Rye Jeppesen
Unfortunately, WML lacked consistency in this area. Sometimes, for example if asked if something was animal as opposed to vegetable, fish would be an animal. But other times, animal was synonymous with mammal. WML was a place to get entertained, not to get schooled in anything scientific (especially in the field of biology).
Fish aren't considered animals, and to the same ignorant CARNIST sheeple, chicken is a vegetable.
since he chartered the fishing boat, maybe he only captained the boat and others dealt with the fish? I agree that biology has always been a weak point on this show
I agree although I think Daly would consider it such a broad area they wanted to narrow mineral- vegetable-animal products to life with legs or fur and hides if keep it consistant through the years it's fine but hard to do unless they had the same panel for many years at a time.
K 52AM 6 by CT PCb@@mr.blackhawk142
Love Dorothy's hair in this. :)
I wonder how exactly they got the blackboard in place for the signing-in, in the span of 4 minutes? By this point, they no loner went to commercial after the opening.
they merely rolled it out from behind the curtain
And no CGI required!
+What's My Line?
Certainly not in the era of IBM mainframes with tape drives, not many years after Mr. Spock was attempting to build a mnemonic memory device out of "stone knives and bearskins."
Look up photos of joe in hospital after Mcgurn and thugs worked him over. Al did cover expenses though.
In earlier episodes, I remember Bennett Cerf hoping that Roger Maris, of the NY Yankees, would be the mystery guest. Is Mr. Maris ever a guest on What's My Line? ?
I refer constantly to this page when I want to know about guests and panelists on What's My Line? in the John Daly era:
game.shows.angelfire.com/whats_my_line.html . And from looking it over, it appears that the answer to your question is no.
romeman01 I'd recommend tv.com's listings over that site, though. That site lists only the shows that are in the guy's collection, with no details. The tv.com listings are detailed beyond anyone's wildest expectations. I don't know who worked on it, but they did a magnificent job. I wish I had started out using that log, but I found one elsewhere on a defunct geocities page that I've been using.
It is strange that the baseball Roger Maris did not appear on WML in 1961 or 1962. Maybe he had TV stage fright.
Groucho Marx - You Bet Your Life wow I been marathonning these eps and didnt know tv.com had detailed info on each ep. thx for the info!
soulierinvestments I believe Maris was a shy guy in his early days the exact opposite of Mantle.
Hideously ironic that Kilgallen asked him if Lewis was known for singing voice. He started as a singer, but he made a lieutenant of Al Capone mad and he cut Lewis's throat and tongue in November 1927. Capone paid Lewis a settlement so that he got therapy, and Lewis came back as a comic.
Ah! I missed that irony completely. Thank you for another insightful comment. :) I wonder what flashed through Lewis's head at that moment!
soulierinvestments Wait, what? Joe E Lewis was a gangster?
soulierinvestments Nevermind....I read it wrong.The Lieutenant cut Lewis throat because Lewis refused to renew his contract. He was left for dead.
22:16 Joe E. Lewis says, "I have a cold, and I can't get rid of it. I've had it 38 years now," while gesturing to this throat.
@@mr.blackhawk142 Al Capone was the son of Italian immigrants.
Since when are monkeys
" products "?
Do you "export " some of your fellow creatures ?
Hadn't been for the panel doing their duty with responsibility towards their fellow citizens,I would be ashamed to 👏
Hadn't fir me to be Watching WML for months , recognising some of my grandparents ', parents' way of life , I wouldn't be here now
As a mother and teacher,don't take our children, pupils to the circus .It makes me sad how humans ridicule themselves with the "monkey business "
Ever grateful to television though, to bring us closer to the 50's,60's
I agree!
At least he wasn't a scammer 😂
8:07 Arlene at her most devious. While asking a question that would get a 'no' answer, she detects John's reaction and quickly stops without finishing the question so as not to get the 'no'. John Daly lets her get away with it. Her habit of asking a "never-ending" question (of which this is not a good example) while looking for a reaction from John, the audience, or the contestant is irritating and, imo, dishonest. And the worst thing is that she seems to have no shame; she seems to be proud of herself! Martin isn't on hand to disapprove.
Robert was being purely tongue-in-cheek here. You're taking him literally for some reason when he was just making a light hearted observation.
Couldn't have said it better myself, and I was going to reply!
You're assuming it was tongue in cheek. I see it the other way. We agree to disagree I guess. Love the show, hated Dorothy in my young days, love her now, esp. her smile!
Omahabigbill Actually, no, I'm not just assuming that Robert's comment was tongue in cheek-- he's been a valued member of the WML community for quite a long time and I know him far better than to believe for a moment that he was intending any serious criticism here. Even if I didn't know him personally, I would never have read his innocuous comment the way you (and, apparently, one other person) did. Take a deep breath, please.
+What’s My Line? I did not find it toungue-in-cheek either. Thought it was a bit rude until I read the further comments.
I have come to find Bennett Cerf a mix of ego centrism, some smart and much stupidity [specially with women's good looks and people that were not in the best of physical shape] telling that man he met the real Roger Maris, like he was some kind of copy. Dorothy was the same, making all sort of stupid questions and much self absorb, not very natural or sincere as in Arlene's case.
I’m glad someone else sees that! He’s arrogant, rude and needs to shut up when it’s not his turn.
They are ALL rude and arrogant...even Arlene hiding behind that sweet, syrupy personality .....
Pl
Cerf is notoriously terrible with names.
Mr Cerf was totally unfunny. He was just corny. Wonder Ms Francis could stand him as she was witty.
unfortunately, the producers never did have that talk with John about flipping over those cards for no reason :(
I LOVE this show, but to tell ya the truth, I don't know if I can watch it for a second time cause even though I'm REALLY trying to like John (and right now, as much as he grates on my nerves, it's still hard not to like him), but with his flipping the cards over for absolutely no reason (which ruins the entire show), and for his long winded explanations, it's EXTREMELY EXTREMELY annoying!!! :(
@Krista Brewer • There's an elegant solution to your dilemma. Simply stop watching the show. You are not required to, you know.
My problem is that he flipped them in consistently. He flipped for some and not for others.