“The human tornado” is an amazing title. I love that you uplift so many Romani women by the way! It’s what brought me to your videos in the first place and I’m so happy to be here 💕
Here’s a more detailed explanation of Carmen Amaya’s story that people requested from the short video about her, hope y’all enjoyed and learned something new!
Hey, I love the fact that you're sharing exceptional and majestic Romani women from my country! ❤ There's so much prejudice against Romani people here in Spain still... Could you do a video about the "Gran Redada" in Spain? It was an attempt to wipe out Romani people from the entirety of Spain, with literal concentration camps, but in the 18th century. I completely understand if you don't want to do it, that event is really triggering and hurtful to Romani people (and honestly, to anyone with a heart). I didn't even see one mention of it in my History books until one of my History teachers decided to tell us about it, and I was in shock. I'm sorry if it's disrespectful to ask you to talk about a genocide attempt
I am an African-American woman. I absolutely love Flamenco! I discovered Carmen Amaya years ago while listening to flamenco music on Spotify. Not only was she an awesome dancer, she was an awesome singer as well.❤
I'm a flamenco dancer from Russia and Carmen Amanda is truly a legend for us flamenco dancers. Shes such an inspiration, such a light. I even have a t-shirt with her photo. I wish I could fance at least a little bit like her, her talent is definitely something extraordinary ❤
If you think about it this history makes sense especially as flamenco is a masculine word in Spanish. I am so happy that it's become this beautiful neutral thing that anyone can enjoy and learn.
This is really interesting, it’s a shame we don’t learn a lot about Romani people! Such a beautiful culture that most people don’t know anything about :(
I love watching your videos and I’m already planning on how I can take the stories and sources you use to incorporate them into my classroom! I personally believe the best way to teach history and language is to guide the students to stories music and art made by the community we are learning about so thank you for all your work💖
i went to spain in 2016 and saw a few spanish-romani flamenco tablaos and absolutely fell in love. it’s so beautiful and as an artist smth about it makes me so inspired even though i’m not a dancer. the passion and creativity ingrained in flamenco is beautiful and there is no better word to describe it other than just art.
Thank you for sharing this. I love dance, I used be obsessed with going to Barcelona lol. Everything you share is so fascinating. I think it's incredible to see how the Romani people have left such beautiful influence in so many places. I wish people would always research and learn who different things come from, it will bring us all closer together. P.S. Have you discussed any popular Romani dishes? (I'll go check, but if not that would be fun to learn about)
Eso es lo que hace más bello el baile flamenco y más difícil ya que el vestido de flamenca es pesado y para bailar con el hay que tener mucha habilidad si ves también videos en CZcams de Carmen Amaya fué de las primeras bailaoras en utilizar pantalón en sus actuaciones porque aparte de estar cómoda se podía mejor apreciar sus pies al bailar
Se me olvidó también comentar,que son vestidos típicos de flamenca,de la mujer gitana,hoy en día algunas bailaoras en sus actuaciones prefieren ir más cómodas y escogen vestidos más ligeros para poder baila,pero el original es el traje de flamenca o de "gitana"
This is amazing history and I wish more people knew that flamenco came from Romani people. Truly the most striking image is the woman with the beautiful dresses 💃🏽
I always hated the anti-Roma sentiments that are abundant in my surroundings, but your channel more than anything else helped me to appreciate the great positive things that Roma people have done so far. Thank you Florian, thank you all the Romani greats of history!
as someone who didnt know much about romani culture, i usually think of flamenco as beautiful women who danced beautifully in typically red ruffly flowy dresses with flowers in their hair. i was already aware that flamenco isn't created by the european spaniards but i find it deeply ironic that a dance that came from a persecuted minority that they hate became an image the country is famous for and often representing them. now that i discover your channel, im actually sad that the most recent flamenco artist i know isnt even romani
Why is it that teachers love to teach us 1/3 of the information and hide the roots and important parts of the information they are teaching us? I took dancing in high school and my teach taught us of her but not “of her” such as her Romani roots just that she was the first woman to break through the stereotype of the ‘Flamenco 💃🏾 ‘ dance, which was a dance reserved for men. 🤦🏾♀️
I don't want to generalize but Romani are great dancers, singers and they play wonderfully different kinds of instruments. They are also very good with their hands. They are really good at basket weaving and all kinds of crafts. They also are very good at copper casting for different types of kitchen utensils like pans and pots. Now they diversified their crafts but the traditions remain and I find that wonderful.
Out of curiosity I watched some videos of Carmen Amaya and...her dance moves were so incredible (and still are) you can clearly see the results of *lots of hours of regular practice* , she got amazing skills. Besides I started for a while to be interested in Flamenco music and it's wonderful.
Thank you so much for giving a spotlight to achieved women again and again ❤ Also thanks for the information where to buy fashion by Romani women, it’s greatly appreciated 🎉
Hey listen, i do appreciate you taking the time to do these shorts for those of us who know very little or nothing at all about your culture. I appreciate it very much
Flamenco is a gift to humanity. Impressive, yes, but also a dance with emotions, between love and hate - but never passive. When I depict the dance if a rejected lover, of a mother loving her child, a woman pursuing love: It is a flamenco No other dance style holds this kind of explosive emotions, and can be danced that raw. I knew about Mrs. Carmen but I didn't know she was Romani. Thank you for that :)
Flemenco is one of the dance styles I studied that made me feel free when dancing. I keep wanting to go back to dancing Flemenco, I dont know why I haven't....
Actually knew this one due to reading a lot of Historical Romances as a kid (I know i was too young), but they always had commentary about how shock some men were that some women can dance at this skill level.
My father was in the US army, and he took us to madrid on vacation when i was a young girl, and we saw Flamenco live, and i was entranced. I wanted to be a dancer for months after! I still love the dance and the music to thus day.
Love from sweden! Very intresting to learn and get a real and good picture of Romani cultures. I only knew the stereotypes from movies for such a long time and its good to know why they are so hurtfull and how they minimize the community. 💙❤💚☸️🇸🇪
This is really refreshing. The internet is flooded with cultural victimization. But you absolutely bring out the strength of your culture! And know your history super well!!
i once saw a traditional flamenco dance performed by a group of romani women in spain. it was so beautiful i teared up a little bit. i remember feeling so awed by their skill and so honored to witness and appreciate their culture in person.
I use the dance flamenco it is honestly my one true love. I was to planted firmly on the ground for ballet so flamenco was perfect for me. It fills me with so much joy and love. It’s truly a beautiful art.
I’m latino and dance flamenco myself! Artists like Carmen Amaya and Javier Valero really inspired me to not be afraid to express myself through the dance and to use both feminine and masculine styles even tho I’mma boy :D I personally enjoy Flamenco Gitano over all types. All my favourite flamenco artists are Roma, they’re sooo creative and impressive! The power of their freestyling and singing is so magical. It’s so important to shine the spotlight on all the amazing Romani cantaoras and bailaoras old and new
Oh how I love your channel. I danced flamenco for 3.5 years, taught by an extremely talented woman who could do some really complex things, so this is even more fascinating to learn about. Thank you
You're doing a great job by representing your culture and correcting all the cliché and miss understandings and false stereotypes. I'm so glad I found your Vlog. Btw I'm from Iran and we have some of your people here but because of a lot of sad reasons we don't know much about them. Do you know anything about Romani people of Iran ? Thanks.
@@florida.florian thank you! And such a cool name they have! Zargari means goldsmith in Persian! I'll try to find more information about them. Thank you!
Her story reminded me of in middle school there were these boys that would always dance at school assembly (like hip hop/robotic dancing ) and then I was like I can dance, so I started practicing to dance in the mirror at home, every night I would stay up before school dance and listen to music till like 2 or 3 am till my mom would come in the room and no knock, scare me and yell at me to go to sleep. But now I’m 22 and definitely the best dancer ever
Ella nació en el Somorrostro, un asentamiento de chabolas que se encontraba en la playa de Barcelona. Carmen dijo una vez que el ritmo de las olas del mar le enseñaron a bailar de pequeña... Todo lo demás es historia, una gran bailaora.
I adore that the dancers most revered in flamenco, are generally older dancers that have been working on mastering their dance for years and years. At least in Western culture, youth is revered. I love seeing that balance of appreciating the beauty of mature dancers and the advanced level of skill they have. I've had the pleasure of watching one older dancer live and it was a memorable experience to say the least!
Yeah! Lots of famous Romani people (or “gitanos” in Spanish) in Spain are famous for being good at flamenco, both singing and dancing 💃🏽 The whole Flores family, for example, are well renowned artists in a Spain and internationally. Romani people had a great importance in creating flamenco, that’s why Middle Eastern traditional music sounds somewhat similar to flamenco
So interesting. I am going to search for more information. I know a little about Romani culture. I always correct people who say ‘Gypsy’. I really enjoy your clips for the educational content and your style.
Love your videos but I want to comment something on this one. Women weren’t precluded from mastering hardest techniques of flamenco. What happened is that there was a feminine way of dancing and a masculine one, as it happens with other romani groups besides the calé. Men’s dancing included heavy footwork while women’s encompassed much more play on the torso and arms, so it was not like it was a reserved artform, the emphasis on footwork, just a male style. Also, she wasn’t the first women to adopt male style dancing (in footwork, because she retained female dancing for the arms and torso and such, a very nicely balanced style). The first one I know of is La Cuenca, a XIXth century female dancer that dressed up as a man and did male style calé dancing. Her disciple, Salud Rodriguez, inherited her style and also broke down the barrier between gender-oriented styles. Then Carmen Amaya came around and yes, she revolutionised flamenco, which by the way is totally gipsy dancing appropriated by the Spanish who still claim they invented it when they clearly didn’t, there’s tons of evidence of the purely Romany origin of the dance.
At first I was shocked that it was possible for her to do something physical better than men, then I remembered that men carry most of their strength in their upper body, while women do so in their lower body I believe. It’s amazing that she got a chance to shine.
Its a lot like Kathak in India. The men were the performers mostly, women in their family learnt but probably didn't perform in public. Times change so do customs. Every society works to protect their women, if women were not performing before it didn't mean they were suppressing them.
Just a little parallel I see. Way back in time for Europe, it used to be socially unacceptable for women to be composers or play musical instruments. Especially, wind instruments, because they are phallic shaped, and women who did were seen as "loose". The only exception for composing that I can think of, was Hildegard von Bingen, one of the first female composers for the Catholic Church, if I remember right, she was a Medieval composer. Eventually, during the Classical era and the Romantic era, women were expected to know the piano, so that they might entertain their husbands and any guests in the homes salon, but playing professionally or composing was still frowned upon. The parallel I see, is men trying to gatekeep art, be it flamenco dance or music. Source, I am a music major, I learned these facts in my music history classes. But I know know much about music history in other cultures, the classes focused on European and American music history
“The human tornado” is an amazing title.
I love that you uplift so many Romani women by the way! It’s what brought me to your videos in the first place and I’m so happy to be here 💕
Here’s a more detailed explanation of Carmen Amaya’s story that people requested from the short video about her, hope y’all enjoyed and learned something new!
Hey, I love the fact that you're sharing exceptional and majestic Romani women from my country! ❤ There's so much prejudice against Romani people here in Spain still... Could you do a video about the "Gran Redada" in Spain? It was an attempt to wipe out Romani people from the entirety of Spain, with literal concentration camps, but in the 18th century. I completely understand if you don't want to do it, that event is really triggering and hurtful to Romani people (and honestly, to anyone with a heart). I didn't even see one mention of it in my History books until one of my History teachers decided to tell us about it, and I was in shock. I'm sorry if it's disrespectful to ask you to talk about a genocide attempt
She's so amazing! Her legacy lives on!
I am an African-American woman. I absolutely love Flamenco! I discovered Carmen Amaya years ago while listening to flamenco music on Spotify. Not only was she an awesome dancer, she was an awesome singer as well.❤
Oooh amazing!
I'm pretty sure she danced for as long as she possibly could too, an amazing woman with a stellar career
Carmen Amaya is a legend. To watch her is to become hypnotized with awe.
I'm a flamenco dancer from Russia and Carmen Amanda is truly a legend for us flamenco dancers. Shes such an inspiration, such a light. I even have a t-shirt with her photo. I wish I could fance at least a little bit like her, her talent is definitely something extraordinary ❤
I want a biopic about her!
So do I
Same
TLDR: Carmen Amaya is absolutely amazing and i have another amazing woman to research and look up to
If you think about it this history makes sense especially as flamenco is a masculine word in Spanish. I am so happy that it's become this beautiful neutral thing that anyone can enjoy and learn.
This is really interesting, it’s a shame we don’t learn a lot about Romani people! Such a beautiful culture that most people don’t know anything about :(
I love watching your videos and I’m already planning on how I can take the stories and sources you use to incorporate them into my classroom! I personally believe the best way to teach history and language is to guide the students to stories music and art made by the community we are learning about so thank you for all your work💖
I'm from western region of Indian state of Rajasthan and my ethnicity is marwari. We both have same ancestors and lineage, isn't interesting
it is very interesting❤
ni indio ni india, esto e español de to la vida que ancestors ni que lineage a casa a toca lo huevo
i went to spain in 2016 and saw a few spanish-romani flamenco tablaos and absolutely fell in love. it’s so beautiful and as an artist smth about it makes me so inspired even though i’m not a dancer. the passion and creativity ingrained in flamenco is beautiful and there is no better word to describe it other than just art.
I’ve been seeing so many of these shorts and it honestly made me appreciate and be grateful to learn about Romani culture the right way. :)
I love how she’s so powerful when she is dancing
I picture an actual flamingo
So true
🦩
In Spanish it’s the same word so I don’t blame you xD
I just found your channel recently. I love your videos and learning about Romani history and culture. Thanks for educating me
A legend and amazing woman 😍👏🏾
I remember the name Carmen from my childhood. She was mentioned in a childrenbook about flamenco and I almost forgot it. Thanks for reminding me :)
You're like the proud grandpa of Romani culture ❤
Amazing !
As a barcelonian I'm SO PROUD your extending her legacy ❤
Beautifully talented!!
Thank you for sharing this. I love dance, I used be obsessed with going to Barcelona lol. Everything you share is so fascinating. I think it's incredible to see how the Romani people have left such beautiful influence in so many places. I wish people would always research and learn who different things come from, it will bring us all closer together.
P.S.
Have you discussed any popular Romani dishes? (I'll go check, but if not that would be fun to learn about)
Wow i actually learned something incredible today. She is amazing
Not gonna lie, i feel like those long and wavy dresses also gets in the way, that's why in order to perform those steps, u gotta free them legs
Eso es lo que hace más bello el baile flamenco y más difícil ya que el vestido de flamenca es pesado y para bailar con el hay que tener mucha habilidad si ves también videos en CZcams de Carmen Amaya fué de las primeras bailaoras en utilizar pantalón en sus actuaciones porque aparte de estar cómoda se podía mejor apreciar sus pies al bailar
Se me olvidó también comentar,que son vestidos típicos de flamenca,de la mujer gitana,hoy en día algunas bailaoras en sus actuaciones prefieren ir más cómodas y escogen vestidos más ligeros para poder baila,pero el original es el traje de flamenca o de "gitana"
A true icon 🥰
This is amazing history and I wish more people knew that flamenco came from Romani people. Truly the most striking image is the woman with the beautiful dresses 💃🏽
I always hated the anti-Roma sentiments that are abundant in my surroundings, but your channel more than anything else helped me to appreciate the great positive things that Roma people have done so far. Thank you Florian, thank you all the Romani greats of history!
as someone who didnt know much about romani culture, i usually think of flamenco as beautiful women who danced beautifully in typically red ruffly flowy dresses with flowers in their hair. i was already aware that flamenco isn't created by the european spaniards but i find it deeply ironic that a dance that came from a persecuted minority that they hate became an image the country is famous for and often representing them. now that i discover your channel, im actually sad that the most recent flamenco artist i know isnt even romani
Thank you, Thank you! As a person of Spanish heritage (Romani too😊) I can say she is a great woman who broke barriers and sterotypes!❤
As someone who has been researching women history, this is one of the best short history video ever! Keep up the good work!❤
Viva la Carmen
Amaya was a powerhouse. She took the Art to another level. Carmen Amaya is Dance.
I was going to chime in with Carmen Amaya but then I read the caption. She was the queen of zapateo.
Ole Carmen Amaya, puro arte 💃🔥
❤❤❤
Why is it that teachers love to teach us 1/3 of the information and hide the roots and important parts of the information they are teaching us? I took dancing in high school and my teach taught us of her but not “of her” such as her Romani roots just that she was the first woman to break through the stereotype of the ‘Flamenco 💃🏾 ‘ dance, which was a dance reserved for men. 🤦🏾♀️
Flamingo is the pink bird, flamenco is the art form.
@@veronica_._._._ I understand that but it was simply typo I’m sure you understand that’s a thing right. Thank you for helping me correct that.
Oleeee Carmen amaya descansa en paz ❤ thanks for sharing
I have chills after watching this video.
I don't want to generalize but Romani are great dancers, singers and they play wonderfully different kinds of instruments. They are also very good with their hands. They are really good at basket weaving and all kinds of crafts. They also are very good at copper casting for different types of kitchen utensils like pans and pots. Now they diversified their crafts but the traditions remain and I find that wonderful.
Out of curiosity I watched some videos of Carmen Amaya and...her dance moves were so incredible (and still are) you can clearly see the results of *lots of hours of regular practice* , she got amazing skills. Besides I started for a while to be interested in Flamenco music and it's wonderful.
Girl straight up told the guys to hold her beer while she went ahead and busted out the moves. 👏👏👏
Thank you so much for giving a spotlight to achieved women again and again ❤
Also thanks for the information where to buy fashion by Romani women, it’s greatly appreciated 🎉
Hey listen, i do appreciate you taking the time to do these shorts for those of us who know very little or nothing at all about your culture. I appreciate it very much
Flamenco is a gift to humanity. Impressive, yes, but also a dance with emotions, between love and hate - but never passive.
When I depict the dance if a rejected lover, of a mother loving her child, a woman pursuing love:
It is a flamenco
No other dance style holds this kind of explosive emotions, and can be danced that raw.
I knew about Mrs. Carmen but I didn't know she was Romani.
Thank you for that :)
Nothing trailblazes better than a tornado
I love your voice, it's so soothing
Flemenco is one of the dance styles I studied that made me feel free when dancing. I keep wanting to go back to dancing Flemenco, I dont know why I haven't....
Actually knew this one due to reading a lot of Historical Romances as a kid (I know i was too young), but they always had commentary about how shock some men were that some women can dance at this skill level.
My father was in the US army, and he took us to madrid on vacation when i was a young girl, and we saw Flamenco live, and i was entranced. I wanted to be a dancer for months after! I still love the dance and the music to thus day.
Love from sweden! Very intresting to learn and get a real and good picture of Romani cultures. I only knew the stereotypes from movies for such a long time and its good to know why they are so hurtfull and how they minimize the community. 💙❤💚☸️🇸🇪
This is really refreshing. The internet is flooded with cultural victimization. But you absolutely bring out the strength of your culture! And know your history super well!!
Thank you Florian.
We had to see improv flamenco in Spain on a school trip and it must've been a tourist trap because it was so bad. I begged to stay on the beach 😢
Improv anything is usually bad
i once saw a traditional flamenco dance performed by a group of romani women in spain. it was so beautiful i teared up a little bit. i remember feeling so awed by their skill and so honored to witness and appreciate their culture in person.
❤❤❤❤❤
I use the dance flamenco it is honestly my one true love. I was to planted firmly on the ground for ballet so flamenco was perfect for me. It fills me with so much joy and love. It’s truly a beautiful art.
I’m latino and dance flamenco myself! Artists like Carmen Amaya and Javier Valero really inspired me to not be afraid to express myself through the dance and to use both feminine and masculine styles even tho I’mma boy :D I personally enjoy Flamenco Gitano over all types. All my favourite flamenco artists are Roma, they’re sooo creative and impressive! The power of their freestyling and singing is so magical. It’s so important to shine the spotlight on all the amazing Romani cantaoras and bailaoras old and new
I might not be Romanian, but i love this type of dance. Learning other cultures dance is what i love most.
Thank you. I had never heard of her. I've learned a lot from you.
Excellent. My mother was a dance teacher . Love the content keep it coming
Thanks for spreading the word.
Oh how I love your channel. I danced flamenco for 3.5 years, taught by an extremely talented woman who could do some really complex things, so this is even more fascinating to learn about. Thank you
You're doing a great job by representing your culture and correcting all the cliché and miss understandings and false stereotypes. I'm so glad I found your Vlog. Btw I'm from Iran and we have some of your people here but because of a lot of sad reasons we don't know much about them. Do you know anything about Romani people of Iran ? Thanks.
Yes they’re called the Zargari people and they migrated to Iran from Bulgaria during the Ottoman times
@@florida.florian thank you! And such a cool name they have! Zargari means goldsmith in Persian! I'll try to find more information about them. Thank you!
Excelente 🍀
I’m so happy you made this video ❤ I didn’t know she was Romani!
I went to see Carmen show. Loved it. Didn't know any history of this. Good to know and proud of her
My lord. It’s the same aground for us women. Prop to Carmen Amaya. You just know ppl treated her badly…till they didn’t.
Her story reminded me of in middle school there were these boys that would always dance at school assembly (like hip hop/robotic dancing ) and then I was like I can dance, so I started practicing to dance in the mirror at home, every night I would stay up before school dance and listen to music till like 2 or 3 am till my mom would come in the room and no knock, scare me and yell at me to go to sleep. But now I’m 22 and definitely the best dancer ever
❤❤❤ amazing as always! Question, what's your opinion on songs like "Hijo de la Luna" by Mecano which refers to romani people to create its story?
Flamenco culture resonates deeply with me. Carmen Amaya, is La Capitana Eterna❤💃
Ella nació en el Somorrostro, un asentamiento de chabolas que se encontraba en la playa de Barcelona. Carmen dijo una vez que el ritmo de las olas del mar le enseñaron a bailar de pequeña... Todo lo demás es historia, una gran bailaora.
Carmen is who I think of when I think of Flamenco
I adore that the dancers most revered in flamenco, are generally older dancers that have been working on mastering their dance for years and years. At least in Western culture, youth is revered. I love seeing that balance of appreciating the beauty of mature dancers and the advanced level of skill they have. I've had the pleasure of watching one older dancer live and it was a memorable experience to say the least!
i had no clue she was Romani!!!! she’s so cool!!!!!
Yeah! Lots of famous Romani people (or “gitanos” in Spanish) in Spain are famous for being good at flamenco, both singing and dancing 💃🏽 The whole Flores family, for example, are well renowned artists in a Spain and internationally.
Romani people had a great importance in creating flamenco, that’s why Middle Eastern traditional music sounds somewhat similar to flamenco
@@Am3lia77 this is wonderful! i love new information! this is fascinating!!!!!
Flamenco & the North Indian dance kathak have many moves & beats in common! 😊
Carmen Amaya was amazing!!!!
I had heard of her but I didn't know she was Romani! That's fantastic!!!
So interesting. I am going to search for more information. I know a little about Romani culture. I always correct people who say ‘Gypsy’. I really enjoy your clips for the educational content and your style.
Love your videos but I want to comment something on this one. Women weren’t precluded from mastering hardest techniques of flamenco. What happened is that there was a feminine way of dancing and a masculine one, as it happens with other romani groups besides the calé. Men’s dancing included heavy footwork while women’s encompassed much more play on the torso and arms, so it was not like it was a reserved artform, the emphasis on footwork, just a male style. Also, she wasn’t the first women to adopt male style dancing (in footwork, because she retained female dancing for the arms and torso and such, a very nicely balanced style). The first one I know of is La Cuenca, a XIXth century female dancer that dressed up as a man and did male style calé dancing. Her disciple, Salud Rodriguez, inherited her style and also broke down the barrier between gender-oriented styles. Then Carmen Amaya came around and yes, she revolutionised flamenco, which by the way is totally gipsy dancing appropriated by the Spanish who still claim they invented it when they clearly didn’t, there’s tons of evidence of the purely Romany origin of the dance.
Nothing is impossible for a human being with a desire 🎉 and a target in mind
They used to say the same thing about Classical Ballet.
You should be a professor!!! I love this channel! ❤❤❤
i didnt know she was romani! awesome!
cool
At first I was shocked that it was possible for her to do something physical better than men, then I remembered that men carry most of their strength in their upper body, while women do so in their lower body I believe. It’s amazing that she got a chance to shine.
Lola Flores is the first that comes to mind, after that there are many good ones, but Lola will always have a place in my heart.
I just think of the dress mostly. I do love watching different types of dances tho!
¡Carmen Amaya! Reina Baila'ora 💃
What are your thoughts on the opera "Carmen"? And their portrayal of Roma?
I'm ngl but I imagine this emoji💃but Carmen Amaya is so so much cooler than that! Her dancing is so beautiful and so incredibly done. She's an icon
Amo tu canal!!!
Needs a movie.
Its a lot like Kathak in India. The men were the performers mostly, women in their family learnt but probably didn't perform in public. Times change so do customs. Every society works to protect their women, if women were not performing before it didn't mean they were suppressing them.
Just a little parallel I see. Way back in time for Europe, it used to be socially unacceptable for women to be composers or play musical instruments. Especially, wind instruments, because they are phallic shaped, and women who did were seen as "loose". The only exception for composing that I can think of, was Hildegard von Bingen, one of the first female composers for the Catholic Church, if I remember right, she was a Medieval composer.
Eventually, during the Classical era and the Romantic era, women were expected to know the piano, so that they might entertain their husbands and any guests in the homes salon, but playing professionally or composing was still frowned upon. The parallel I see, is men trying to gatekeep art, be it flamenco dance or music.
Source, I am a music major, I learned these facts in my music history classes. But I know know much about music history in other cultures, the classes focused on European and American music history
And then there's literature..... George Sand (her pseudonym), the Bronte sisters publishing with pseudonyms and initials as well.
This definitely tracks since men also thought that women’s uteruses would fly out if they got on a train
Wow inspiring
What a woman!
Amazing