Why Is There Fluoride in Water? Is It Effective?
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- Based on nearly 100 randomized controlled trials, fluoride toothpaste reduces dental cavity rates, but what about just adding fluoride to the water supply?
Like everything in medicine, it’s a matter of balancing the risks and benefits.
This is the first video in a five-part series on water fluoridation. Stay tuned for:
• Side Effects of Water Fluoridation: Dental Fluorosis (nutritionfacts.org/video/side...)
• Is Water Fluoridation Safe? (nutritionfacts.org/video/is-w...)
• Why I Changed My Mind on Water Fluoridation (nutritionfacts.org/video/why-...)
• Medicine’s Response to the Changing Science on Fluoride Safety (nutritionfacts.org/video/medi...)
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The words "safe and effective" have been abused lately
I've never been bothered by fluoride in my toothpaste. That actually has always made sense to me. Putting it in the water I actually ingest in significant quantities however has not.
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@@johnnyroe8053 !
Truth. If fluoride is intended to be only for teeth, why push it through every cell in your body? 🤡 Also, I learned that since fluoride is in the water in many states, the fruits/veggies you eat may also have absorbed fluoride. Any juice, coffee, tea or wine you drink may also have it. So you are taking in more than the 1% that they claim is safe.
Yeah some studies found that fluoride is neurotoxic, but I still brush my teeth with fluoride toothpaste before sleeping
Yep might as well drink sunscreen to prevent sunburn lol
If they cared about our teeth, why is dental insurance separate from health insurance?
Who is "they"? And if "they" cared so much about health why have "insurance"? Why not just have health care?
Money
@@johnpurser2798 "They" means the people we are talking about. In this case, we're talking about fluoride lobbyists (people and companies who have financial interest in disposing of their aluminum biproduct for profit), and companies that profit from fluoride directly.
"Who is they" is a strange question. Does it matter?
@@velatoget Well you care who "they" are and what "they" believe so yes, who they are matters. And since you still don't know who "they" are and the "they" you identified is not who we're talking about I would guess the topic still needs clarification.
The video is a nice presentation on the facts of the matter, independent of what any hypothetical "they" wants.
@@pdblouin I haven't said anything about "Big Fluoride" or about separating insurance.
Mind blowing that instead sensible sugar regulation we decide to manage the disease instead of fix the cause and prevent it.
1) There's no money in fixing the cause of diseases.
2) Many diseases (such as cancer and diabetes) may in fact be caused by pollutants, for example all of the PFAS that exist in the modern world, which could take hundreds of years to totally eliminate from the environment. Mankind has literally poisoned himself.
There's no money in prevention.
Because theres no profit in a cure. It's up to individual people to care for their health
My italian grand mother allways used baking soda only never had a cavity here whole life and had all her teeth until she past at 91.
Könnte was dran sein, ich stelle Zahnpast aus Kokusöl und Natron mit ätherischen Ölen her. Allerdings ernähre ich mich fast immer nach Dr. Greger, wo ich das Gefühl habe weniger Belag auf den Zähnen zu bekommen.
What I've heard is that flouride is great for the teeth, and not so much for the bones or thyroid. So I have chosen to brush with a flouride paste, scrape my tongue afterwards and rinse, drink distilled water.
Went down that rabbit hole when my daughter was a baby and spoiler warning the costs far outweigh the claimed benefits. There is no way adding it to the water is ethically justified.
LOL
@@pdblouin I think you missed the point. The ethics issue is the government adding, or allowing utility companies to add, a chemical to the drinking water supplied to everyone based on the claim that it is benefical to a minority and with the majority unable to opt out even if they are aware of the risks. Reverse osmosis flters aren't cheap.
@@pdblouin It's a different type of fluoride. The kind they add to water is like industrial waste the companies needed to offload somewhere so they get paid to dump it into our water.
@@wildrice8199 You have a source for that assertion?
@@cheapshot2842 I read about it a long time ago back when I researched this stuff, it's been a while. I don't get people asking for sources on YT comments, nobody cites sources for any assertion here. You go look something up if you want to verify, you're already on the internet.
Hello Michael,
I didn't have an opinion about Flouride in our drinking water till about 30 years ago when I read "The Flouride Deception" by Christopher Bryson.
Wow! The flouride in our drinking water story reads like a quite spooky John Grisham crime novel.
You can download the PDF from the nett,for free, and become well informed.
Looking forward to the next video. How does fluoride affect the rest of the bodies tissues?
Me, along with probably everyone I know, take a drink of water and swallow it down. People don't normally take a drink of water and swish it around their mouth for a few seconds before swallowing it. So I don't know how much contact the water fluoride would have with teeth anyways.
If you look at the history of fluoride chemical, they didn’t know what to do with that because it was considered waste so they thought oh let’s put it in our drinking water
“They they they”…is just gossip
Fluoride is a neurotoxin. If you care about your teeth, put things in your mouth that create and maintain a healthy oral microbiome that puts good bacteria in your mouth, not bad bacteria.
That is only part of the answer. Fluoride is also a part of the answer. It’s a multifaceted problem/solution.
@@taunyaclaybrook3958 Well, considering Fluoride is a poison, how is it part of the answer?
There is a difference between calcium fluoride and sodium fluoride. Calcium fluoride is what naturally mineralizes teeth and is found in soil and different foods and herbs. Sodium fluoride, which is artificially added to tap water, toothpaste, and other dental products, is highly toxic and has been linked to mental retardation, brain and organ damage, pacifies populations by calcifying the pineal gland, and causes dental fluorosis (browning of teeth) in high amounts. Sodium fluoride is a highly industrialized artificial chemical so it cannot be compared to the naturally occuring calcium fluoride. The whole issue is that the allopathic medical model and three letter agencies ignore this fact and act like both types of fluoride are identical and lead to identical outcomes. This is anti-science and criminal because they do not provide informed consent from populations that receive artificial fluoridation.
Where is the science research?
Interesting comments, however without citation you're just another tin foil hat guy in the comments. Please provide peer reviewed, non-biased studies to confirm your comments.
This is true. Man-made Flouride has an evil history czcams.com/video/-hvhAEiB19M/video.htmlfeature=shared
When a crystal like table salt (sodium chlorine) is dissolved in water the ions get separated: chlorine floating and sodium floating elsewhere.
The same will happen with you sodium fluorine, sodium somewhere and fluoride ion somewhere else.
@@alexforget Comparing sodium chloride (aka salt) to sodium fluoride is a fallacy because sodium chloride occurs naturally within the body and in nature and is an essential trace mineral. However, sodium fluoride is artificially created via industrial processes, and it is a cumulative poison and highly toxic. Fluoride is found naturally in soil, the body, and certain foods and herbs in the form of calcium fluoride.
I hope this series will also address whether stannous fluoride is superior to sodium fluoride (in toothpaste). In any case, thanks for all the great information you share with us.
My concern is that toothpaste with fluoride has a poisoning warning on it if eaten. How much does it take???
Whoa what a cliffhanger 😂
I'm not convinced. I'll continue avoiding fluoride. Thanks for the information, though, Doc.
I concur. If fluoride is so great for teeth, how come we still get teeth decay? Where would the money in it for dentists? No more root canals...false teeth implants...come on!!
Finally!!! I waited for a whole year since you first announced about Fluoride bad side effect in Feb 2023.
At what cost!? Nooo!!! I'm not gonna drink any water til I find out! 🤣
Thank you so much for doing this topic
How do I get to the other videos in this series?
It looks like this is the first, and it came out today. The next four should be released over the next few days.
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5:05 every day more people are making their own mouth care products at home with natural edible products.
CDC..safe, effective..misinformation..
Words that make me go "Hummmm..."
Thank you Dr Gregor! On water topic...What is your opinion and findings on "Hydrogen generator" water bottles?
Ion water bottle is something I just bought out of curiosity
i had 5 fillings up to the age of 25, all the while using flourided water, flourided toothpaste, flouride treatment at the dentist. the last 32 years where i removed flouride from my intake (water, toothpaste and dentist) i have had 0 fillings. nothing else has changed in my diet
Check out "The Flouride Deception" by Christopher Bryson.( free download pdf).
It's nice knowing the true story behind flouride in our drinking water...reads like a John Grisham crime novel.
What about hydroxyapitate toothpaste? If floride is meant to bind calcium to the teeth, why not just brush with nano calcium? No neurotoxin required.
Every time I hear something is safe , there is always a money trail leading to someone who said it.
At some point you, maybe inadvertently used the term " nutrient". Your'e on thin ice on this topic. You, of course are fully aware iodine is the better choice. I'm anxiously waiting to hear which side you're on.
Fluoride is worthwhile when limited to topical application (i.e. toothpaste). Consuming fluoride on the other hand (i.e. drinking water) is more harmful than beneficial.
Not in the quantities we’re swallowing it.
Let's wait for the next video
You need some for bone health so it is a matter of what is a safe level.
Gotta love the "trust me, bro" sources. I could maybe imagine toddlers having it worse due to their size and lesser ability to remove contaminants in their body but it is unlikely fluorinated water is more harmful than eating heavy metal filled oil seeds like pumpkin seeds. tooth decay can cause number of diseases aside from oral afflictions, correlation with alzheimer's, heart disease and cancer has been noticed in studies which is arguably worse than mild possibly non existent nerve disruption from the miniscule amount of fluoride molecules in our body, This channel did make couple videos on the topic of oral health so those shall be my sources.
PROBLEM IS THAT TOPICAL GETS ABSORBED BY THE TISSUES IN YOUR MOUTH AND IT GOES INTO THE BLOODSTREAM ... JUST LIKE HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES THAT YOU PUT UNDER YOUR TONGUE.😥
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I don’t use fluoridated toothpaste because if you are eating cruciferous veggies to reduce high blood pressure and heart disease, the Esselstyn heart reversal diet, he says fluoride interferes with the breakdown of nitrites as you chew these greens with some balsamic vinegar for optimal nitrate absorption into the endothelial tissue
I have had some cavities filled but the alternatives are worse
I just bought a waterpik which helps a lot
@@keithlb1 I just bought a waterpik as well and I love that I actually enjoy using it daily. Flossing on the other hand I saw as a chore.
I thought not eating sugary foods or drinks would prevent tooth decay.
well, something builds up under gumline...always something...to find hidden in one's crevices...go as natural as possible...no fluoride for me or 'fluoride' treatments...if they worked they ought to be free for everyone and we would all have better health...same with food grown with pesticides/herbicides....no living bacteria survives that 'onslaught' of killer chemicals to help feed the plant's growth...come on! Help keep your own immune system intact by observing your life style etc?!!
This video series really should've been released all at once. I'm not too interested in a reality TV show cliffhanger when it comes to my drinking water.
I did some calculations years ago and came to the conclusion that 2L of tap water per day could result in hypothyroidism. Not long after, I remember coming across a study from, I think the CDC, which came to the same conclusion and suggested lowering the recommended levels added to the water supply. 2L a day is easily obtainable and easily exceeded for those that exercise or work in hot regions. Then there is the question of natural dietary sources such as fruits and vegetables that may have absorbed it. This was not considered in the overall load.
Now consider if you make soup with tap water, you are only concentrating the levels more. If you use toothpaste, that also contributes to the load from the small amounts you incidentally swallow while brushing.
Now imagine you already have hypothyroidism, now you either need to stop drinking tap water or need to up your meds.
Maybe I’m sensitive, but after a few minutes I feel odd whenever I drink tap water (and certain bottled water brands known for using filtered tap water), a bit like brain fog or something. I really can’t explain it, but I never feel this way with natural spring water. Maybe it’s also the added chlorine?
I’m fine with toothpaste, that works, and so does eating a healthy diet. Both of these are health choices people can make. The tap water is a health choice you cannot make (not without having to pay the tax of buying bottled spring water) and has demonstrable health effects on people that are NOT communicated to the people. Then there is also the concern of dosing in the same levels for infants as adults which I’m concerned may be an issue as well, as well as the variability of dosage based on things like working in hot areas or frequent exercise.
I seriously hope you take this into account with your follow up videos.
I am pro-science, and consider pandemic disease vaccines valid. I have never seen any research into the safety of _consuming_ fluoride over time; all the research concerns its topical use as a tooth decay prophylactic. Topical application is not the same as ingestion, so I'm OK with using fluoride toothpaste, which I spit out and rinse out of my mouth, but I avoid drinking fluoridated water. I'm hoping the next video addresses this. Thanks for posting!
Same
tube of toothpaste: do not swallow, contains fluoride; toxic
dept of water: drink our water contains fluoride; not toxic
Here in Belgium they dont put that stuff in the water
I say this doctor should drink straight up fluoride every morning and see what happens. Rat poison is 99% fluoride by the way
Dr. Greger keeping us at the edge of our seats!
I respect this doctor so much but holy crap the comment section has so many conspiracy theorists who only want to see their biases confirmed, and will probably turn on him if he doesn't say what they want to hear. The US has a serious problem when it comes to critical thinking skills and lack of understanding of science. Personally I'm looking forward to his other videos on the subject, and then to reading some studies after that. Very interesting topic. Keeping an open mind.
Hello Shelly,
I didn't have an opinion about Flouride in our drinking water till about 30 years ago when I read
"THE FLOURIDE DECEPTION " by Christopher Bryson.
WOW! The facts read like a John Grisham crime novel.
Download the pdf free and become well informed 😊.
NIL Flouride for me ever since.
Why, because they had a ton of after product called fluoride and they needed a way to profit from it, that's how it happened.
I concur
Thank you for sharing
Knew childhood friend teeth turned grey like metal from fluoride
That could have been from antibiotics when the tooth bud was forming. This was very common.
Fluorosis causes chalky white spots on teeth. Or, as in the case of Colorado brow stain, brown. We rarely ever see this today.
5 part series pass
The Lorena Bobbitt story when it came out on VHS was in 2 parts.
Rip Esselstyn and Dr Klaper have had something to say (publicly) about fluoride in drinking water.
Dr. Bessie Delany the dentist would say Esselstyn and Klaper are both wrong.
@@Jeffs60 "Bessie Delany" dentist fluoride yields no search results so I don't know what you mean. You just made that up.
@@tobymillar Esselstyn and Klaper have nothing to do with dentistry or nutrition or have any training in biochemistry so it does not matter what they say.
Regular brushing without toothpaste removes tartar buildup which can prevent cavities. Just run the toothbrush over your teeth after meals . Also stay away from high sugar intake. Fluoridated water is unnecessary and dangerous
For me, this doesn't work. Whenever I've tried non-fluoridated toothpaste I start having issues with my teeth within a few weeks. Fluoride toothpaste is fine, I just don't swallow the toothpaste.
who believes that government cares about cavities? pleeeaaasseee.
Your thoughts… for most plant-based, doctors and health professionals are sending mixed messages in that. They are not speaking with one voice and one way of eating.. When we think about the Atkins diet, we know exactly what that means. When we think about the South Beach diet, we know exactly what that means. When we think about that old grapefruit diet, we know exactly what that means. When we think about the whole Food plant based lifestyle, we don’t know exactly what that means. it would be very helpful to our movement. If all these doctors and plant based health professionals would get together come up with one name for the lifestyle change and say the same thing., even if it means compromising in order to set a standard, so we will know exactly what that means… what is good to eat and what is not good to eat
It's supposed to be a topical treatment. Yet everyone is swallowing it.
Fluoride replace calcium in the body. Marketing: "Makes the bones/teeth stronger." True, whole truth tho: "Stronger...but more brittle". AKA not mushy but breaks easily.
There's no fluoride in the water where I live in Germany, and I use toothpaste with xylitol rather than fluoride. Now I'm wondering if I should switch to fluoride toothpaste 🤔. My last dental check-up (last month) was fine.
Much of the rational for putting fluoride into the water in the USA is based on the fact we have such a crappy health care system. I presume there's a very different situation in Germany.
I stopped getting cavities years ago when I stopped using fluoride toothpaste. Just a case study, but it's interesting that no matter how much I used to brush, cavities would show up while using and drinking fluoride. Now I've stopped and the cavities stopped.
@@velatoget Congratulations! You're either a mutant or a space alien!
@@velatoget I had the same experience
Thank you for covering this topic! I hope you will address the widespread use of fluoride, and if there was an issue, it seems like we would have seen it long ago. I wonder if there’s any thing that we have given humans on such a mass scale as much as fluoride?
It's a cliffhanger!
He did mention he changed his mind. If I would have to guess he was pro fluoridation before.
Could anyone summarize those six minutes of video into a sentence or two?
Fluoride is a mineral that helps strengthen tooth enamel and prevent cavities.
Adding fluoride to water supplies (water fluoridation) is considered safe and effective for preventing cavities by public health authorities.
Water fluoridation has been controversial, with critics arguing it is unnecessary and may pose health risks.
Studies show that fluoridated water supplies lead to significantly fewer cavities in both children and adults compared to non-fluoridated areas.
Despite some opposition, scientific evidence supports that the benefits of water fluoridation in reducing tooth decay outweigh potential risks when fluoride levels are properly adjusted.
Some of the first conspiracy theories I heard on the internet were based on "Water fluoridation makes you a slave!" I had no idea the roots of this nonsense went back so far.
Pubmed and actual studies demonstrating the neurotoxicity and danger of fluoride must all be stupid to you, Oh Grand Master of All Knowledge.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31741202/
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38554964/
Well, Russia and the Nazis were the first to start it. Operation Paperclip started in 1945, the same year those brought over from Germany implemented our first dose of fluoride in the drinking water. Just a coincidence though.
Like they needed floride for that, they already invented money and pension plans
@@eelkeaptroot1393 THAT'S what I said!!!
So the UK government has just decided to roll this out for us, a cynical and futile attempt to offset the disastrous state of NHS dentistry. Rather than investigating the millions required into the dental services, make the (privately owned and operated) water companies throw some more chemicals in the drinking supply 😢
Tea has very high levels of fluoride so most people in the UK should have ample intake.
I love this channel!
Such misdirection. Fluoride in toothpaste is completely different application- you don’t swallow it. They dumped it in water for no good reason. Brush twice a day.
Only topical fluoride works.
Fluoride free toothpaste messed up my teeth big time. Never again. I don't see why we have to have fluoride in our water though, just brush with freaking fluoride.
4:21 kuz 2020 *WAZNT* a zoonosis
BTW: I like how U mention da EPA's effort on stappang *HFSA*
Releasing evidence-based fluoride AND vaccine videos this month? Really trying to get all the anti-science people who clutter your Q&A's to leave, I guess?
No doubt...I ask my physician to make sure they/them fluoridates any and all of my boosters...best of both worlds..
I love vaccines, but only the ones that actually do prevent infection and don't cause heart damage. It's a pity no one made one of those for covid, back when covid was actually more serious than a mild cold. I do feel sorry for everyone who is on their fifth booster and still wearing a mask. That is just about the epitome of anti-science. And the people who mocked or continue to mock those who were fortunate enough to avoid the shot, those people would benefit significantly from educating themselves.
I tried to respond to this comment, but it got deleted immediately. Either Dr. Greger is censoring his comments or CZcams is. Either way it is extremely disturbing that free speech no longer exists. Even just a very politely written response that mentions a certain medical intervention in a less than positive light is censored. It is a struggle just to communicate with people online about this topic.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38554964/
I'm not leaving, even if he's wrong on this one :) He's right on most things. Yeah, covid vaccines didn't fix anything. And ingesting fluoride doesn't protect teeth. But generally speaking he's right that it's healthier to avoid eating meat.
Safe and effective have lost all meaning at this point
The Vegan neck doctor is trustworthy.wtf
It is forbidden in Europe to add fluoride le to water as considered toxic. Even toothpaste shouldn't be ingested but spat out,
Thats a blatant lie. It's not forbidden in Europe and it's not considered a toxin either. The EU commission simply doesn't see a benefit in fluoridated water compared to toothpaste BUT water Fluoridation is a common practice in a lot of EU countries. Fluoride is also added in lots of food, and there are worlds between the amount of Fluoride we take in on a regular basis and the concentrated amounts that we'd actually need to consume for it to even remotely resemble something of a risk factor. It's like saying that pure water is unhealthy because you could die from drinking 5000 litres all at once.
You are absolutely right. On the international front, most of the west European countries have rejected water fluoridation including Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, and Switzerland.
Why avoid fluoride in toothpaste?
The reason for these recommendations is because when too much fluoride is ingested, it is toxic. Excess fluoride ingestion is linked to dental fluorosis, a condition that causes tooth enamel to become discoloured and which when present can indicate that the rest of your body has been overexposed to fluoride as well.
Why is fluoride banned in Europe?
All other treatment chemicals are added to treat the water (i.e. to improve the water's quality and safety - which fluoride does not do). This is one of the reasons why much of Europe has rejected fluoridation.
@michaelt8388 you explained the issue wonderfully well 👍 Precisely what I meant to say, but concisely.
I appreciate the information, but I find this tactic of pausing the story at the good part and making us come back another day for the rest of it really annoying. I don't know any other CZcamsr that does this. I guess you do it to try to increase subscribers, but I find it unpleasant.
He has run videos in series like this for around a decade.
@@hexicdragon3094Yes I am aware. My statement remains the same.
He is giving you time to do your own research.
“People trust science more in 2020”…how about now?
Do you know how much effort it takes to create content?
Are you expecting him to create 1 hour essays every day?
It is always better to digest new information piece by piece every day.
This will be more long-lasting for your memory - similar to learning a new language.
I could also argue that you could come back in a week or two and watch all the videos in a row.
What do you think about that tactic?
Saying the government cares about my teeth is like saying israel cares about Palestinians.
Fluoride is bad for health. I'll skip this series.
Which is a good example of why science, reason, and education doesn't quell the flood of conspiracy theory nonsense.
@@johnpurser2798 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31741202/
@@johnpurser2798 Find one study that's ever been found that says INGESTING fluoride is good for health. In fact, it only has negative effects.
The compliant drones are why they can perpetuate the frauds
What the heck happened to this channel?Too much pharma induced misinformation lately!
Well, he still is a "M.D." . . .
What are you talking about "lately". This guy was on board with the covid jabs from day one. Anyone who demonizes eggs and endorses mRNA is automatically suspect.
So, nutrition facts is no longer about science, but now it’s more about consensus? How the mighty have fallen. +1 to the list of unsubscribers.
thx for letting us know
Sux he would sell out and suck off the rod of power like this.
Nutrition science has always been mainly about consensus. There is no truth in nutrition, only direction in which most of the science points. No single study can tip the balance of evidence in the field. Have you been unaware of that until now?
It is and always has been about the best available balance of evidence.
@@joephillips5594 which is not consensus. Its funny though, when Dr Greger reviews studies funded by the dairy industry (or meat / egg industries), he highlights that as a red flag and potential sign of bias. No such red flags for his fan-boy comments on flouride (a poison basically) or other new medical products that have been released in the past few years and we cannot mention on YT. So, the champion and protector of our health now wants us to get our jabs and use flouride?
Dr Gregor doesn't look healthy. 9 year vegan here so not hating, just saying.
His speaking schedule over the last few months looks crazy-busy. That's got to be exhausting.
Looks can be deceiving my friend. Most people you probably look at as "healthy," will probably diet at a young age of heart disease, cancer, or other preventable diseases.
No mention of ALCOA and aluminum production waste byproduct that was conveniently allowed to be put in the water system?