IBM PCjr Repair and Restoration

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  • čas přidán 26. 02. 2018
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    In this episode I restore an IBM PCjr back to original condition, and repair a faulty monitor that was damaged in shipping.

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  • @Marco-jj8mb
    @Marco-jj8mb Před 6 lety +1340

    "I'm using a very high tech tool here, it's called my pocket knife."
    I love this man.

  • @punishernation436
    @punishernation436 Před 4 lety +390

    “Old computers need to be handled delicately and with care by experts with the correct parts”
    DJ- I’ve got a knife, a paper clip and a multimeter

    • @michaeldonoghue9015
      @michaeldonoghue9015 Před 3 lety +18

      Psssht, thems is luxury tools. Back in the old days all we had was a sharp stone, a bottle cap, and some engine grease to fix our cracked PCBs.

    • @williamreid6255
      @williamreid6255 Před 3 lety +16

      “Somebody get me some markers, some construction paper, and some GLITTER GLUE!!”

    • @TylerFurrison
      @TylerFurrison Před 2 lety +5

      @@williamreid6255 I can't not read "glitter glue" in the stereotypical gay voice

    • @mmlgamer
      @mmlgamer Před 2 lety

      @@williamreid6255 MACGRUBER

    • @hunterbear2421
      @hunterbear2421 Před 2 lety +4

      don't forget his fists he hit it to get the screen to turn on for the first few times

  • @johanrosenberg6342
    @johanrosenberg6342 Před 4 lety +197

    I lost the ability to hear that high-pitched sound years ago and I'm just 21. One day I invited some friends over and decided to show them my late 70s computer. As soon as I turned it on they began complaining and I just couldn't understand why. One of the rare perks of growing old I suppose.

    • @nicholaspiberiuswilde8560
      @nicholaspiberiuswilde8560 Před 3 lety +30

      My parents (almost 50) can't hear any (high-pitched) noise when they turned on their old CRT. That's not a perk, really; losing the ability to hear certain frequencies is very bad.

    • @TylerFurrison
      @TylerFurrison Před 2 lety +12

      I stopped hearing anything above ~14500 hz around the age of 15, who knows why

    • @kuirivito
      @kuirivito Před 2 lety +6

      @@TylerFurrison going deaf :)

    • @TylerFurrison
      @TylerFurrison Před 2 lety +3

      @@kuirivito Probably

    • @Cralax1Robot
      @Cralax1Robot Před rokem +5

      What did you say? 👂

  • @SimonChristensen
    @SimonChristensen Před 6 lety +924

    1:12 first time I've seen that actually work.
    The amount of kids in school, whacking the CRT, just to make the computer work faster, was astounding.

    • @TravisTev
      @TravisTev Před 6 lety +126

      Whacking the CRT to make the computer go faster? Wow.
      “Hey, I think my computer has a virus. Should I hook up a CRT and whack it to get rid of it?” :-D

    • @bench8535
      @bench8535 Před 6 lety +40

      Wowwwwwwwwwww! Kids were stupid.

    • @Schimnesthai
      @Schimnesthai Před 6 lety +19

      But it didn't work faster? It just worked!

    • @askhowiknow5527
      @askhowiknow5527 Před 6 lety +18

      Simon Christensen In Texas, our teachers would come to your house and whack your computer monitor and see how you like it

    • @jert1000
      @jert1000 Před 6 lety +4

      Kicking the xerox works likewise :)

  • @Joznia
    @Joznia Před 6 lety +96

    "I'm using a very high-tech tool here, it's called my pocket knife."
    made me laugh way harder than it should've

    • @CanuckGod
      @CanuckGod Před 5 lety +3

      Pocket knives and duct tape, man's best friends ;D

    • @JetFalcon710
      @JetFalcon710 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@CanuckGod And WD-40 as well

  • @rc3wondere
    @rc3wondere Před 5 lety +394

    The monitor arriving broken is a perfect reason why I don’t trust shipping

  • @AdamChristensen
    @AdamChristensen Před 6 lety +921

    I'd say the high pitched whine is coming from the comments section! 😂

    • @AdamChristensen
      @AdamChristensen Před 6 lety +11

      Heh, I know. Everyone usually likes trolling the pedantic commenters.

    • @Appleboy78165
      @Appleboy78165 Před 5 lety +3

      Ba dum tssss

    • @FinalBaton
      @FinalBaton Před 5 lety +2

      BAM! Nice!

    • @GAIUSJAKE
      @GAIUSJAKE Před 5 lety +1

      So you cant hear it?

    • @GAIUSJAKE
      @GAIUSJAKE Před 5 lety +7

      @Upitty Dawg i was kinda joking, my ears get used to it. I grew up on tube tvs lol.

  • @RudeFoxALTON
    @RudeFoxALTON Před 6 lety +39

    It's amazing how simple it was to fix that CRT. Literally just adding bridges to the cracked PCB. It would be interesting to see how that compares to a modern LCD monitor lol

    • @stephensnell5707
      @stephensnell5707 Před rokem +1

      However,LCD Monitors use way less power compared to what the old day CRT ones would

  • @VitorMadeira
    @VitorMadeira Před 6 lety +213

    When someone repairs old computer stuff (as well as old TV, VCR, Camcorder, Hi-Fi, etc.) one should leave a small sheet of paper glued inside the box with a log ir order to inform someone in the future on what was found before and what was done after the repair.
    That would help a lot in the future when taking decisions when repairing due to future problems.

    • @keithbrown7685
      @keithbrown7685 Před 6 lety +21

      Also, it has historical value.

    • @MrTopsoil911
      @MrTopsoil911 Před 5 lety +3

      Oh pls who cares. Who would buy this junk pc

    • @sockshandle
      @sockshandle Před 5 lety +31

      @@MrTopsoil911 a collector that's who...

    • @gooseknack
      @gooseknack Před 5 lety +29

      @@MrTopsoil911 trust me, it would be handy. Like buying 25 plus year old classic/vintage cars that have the entire service and repair history.. it can be bloody helpful!

    • @alexandercurtis4427
      @alexandercurtis4427 Před 5 lety +23

      @@MrTopsoil911 Why are you here if you think its junk?

  • @fffUUUUUU
    @fffUUUUUU Před 6 lety +79

    DJ is so positive person. Thanks for the CRT restoration!

  • @panta_rhei.26
    @panta_rhei.26 Před 5 lety +15

    This must be what some people feel like when they see an old car restored to new condition. These restoration videos are so great!

  • @evanjohnson1299
    @evanjohnson1299 Před 4 lety +13

    Hey, there's Mr. Meseeks look at him!
    Also I'm convinced that Linus's last words will be "OK I'm gonna poke at it now"

    • @losisansgaming2628
      @losisansgaming2628 Před 2 lety

      ? I'm a bit confused.

    • @evanjohnson1299
      @evanjohnson1299 Před 2 lety

      @@losisansgaming2628 there is a character from Rick And Morty in the scene, and You Tuber Linus has a reputation of being clumsy they kinda inside jokes to a lateral thinker.

    • @losisansgaming2628
      @losisansgaming2628 Před 2 lety

      @@evanjohnson1299 I know of linus tech tips. I just wasn't sure if you meant him. Also I know what mr meseeks is

    • @evanjohnson1299
      @evanjohnson1299 Před 2 lety

      @@losisansgaming2628 I suppose it could've been Linus Torvald, or some kid with a blanket fixation.

  • @DrumWild
    @DrumWild Před 6 lety +49

    My ex-wife bought a PC Junior in 1983. Loved the IR keyboard with 6ft range.
    According to the receipt, she paid $2,000 for it.

    • @ct92404
      @ct92404 Před 6 lety +10

      DrumWild Holy cow...$2,000 in 1983 dollars would have been quite a hunk of change. Heck, even now that's an awful lot of money.

    • @ganaraminukshuk0
      @ganaraminukshuk0 Před 6 lety +12

      That would be about $5000 in today's money (the inflation calculator I used spat out $4,977.25). Some people who are really enthusiastic about their computers would still spend $5K anyway.

    • @keithbrown7685
      @keithbrown7685 Před 6 lety

      gee.... I wonder who *they* could be...... : )

  • @Stevew443
    @Stevew443 Před 6 lety +17

    This brought back so many memories. My first job after graduating tech school was to repair CRTs and keyboards and adjust floppy drives. That was about 35 years ago, and I am now retired, but it was fun watching you all do the job I once did for 40 hours a week.

  • @micheal65536
    @micheal65536 Před 6 lety +26

    While I don't mind the whine myself and think it adds atmosphere to the videos, try using a spectrogram to check for the whine. It should show up as a noticeable spike towards the high-frequency end of the spectrogram.

  • @miguel-qf2si
    @miguel-qf2si Před 6 lety +62

    i gotta say im in no way a computer nerd. or even computer savy. im 32 yrs old so i dont even know about these vic 20 or commodore 64 etc. all i watch is car videos and stuff like that. but i gotta say im subscribed and love this channel. watch every video. 👍👍

  • @Mmouse_
    @Mmouse_ Před 6 lety +117

    In the UK they fitted speakers near areas that teenagers would congregate and cause trouble, it would give off that whine really loudly so they didn't want to be there any more but older people just doing their shopping wouldn't hear it.

    • @Mmouse_
      @Mmouse_ Před 6 lety +2

      Vaardu I didn't attempt to name the device, because I didn't know what it was called..... Actually.

    • @TravisTev
      @TravisTev Před 6 lety +9

      Clever.
      Too bad on CZcams it just makes complainers complain more rather than making them go away. ;-)

    • @munkpuppy
      @munkpuppy Před 6 lety +7

      this is regularly done in Vancouver, especially malls, smoking areas, and outside transit stations. I think they are called Teen Screamers.

    • @BigOlSmellyFlashlight
      @BigOlSmellyFlashlight Před 5 lety +5

      Max Mouse jokes on them I play high pitched audio into my ears on purpose

    • @GAIUSJAKE
      @GAIUSJAKE Před 5 lety +8

      But why? There's really no reason. Unless they are stealing or breaking property but at that point some noise isn't going to mater to them. Honestly just comes off as a room full of yes men and "kids these days" people talking about installing these devices and just agreeing with each other. No disrespect intended right now, if you disagree I'd love to have a civil discussion.

  • @gsedej_MB
    @gsedej_MB Před 6 lety +206

    People watching old tech videos and complaining about high pitch noise. Well I don't know what to say...

    • @3ountyhunter
      @3ountyhunter Před 5 lety +9

      Lucky (or unlucky) for me, my tinnitus is so loud I couldn't hear if there was a noise to begin with.

    • @wiktorgorowski8551
      @wiktorgorowski8551 Před 5 lety +2

      the crt sound that makes your ears bleed.

    • @UraYukimitsu
      @UraYukimitsu Před 4 lety +1

      The CRT noise wouldn't be as much of a problem if it was on the whole video, but since it comes on and off (well, when David forgets to remove it) it makes it really noticeable and annoying

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine Před 4 lety +3

      @@UraYukimitsu I don't seem to notice it on video, but I still hear it IRL.

    • @adenarrington7607
      @adenarrington7607 Před 4 lety +2

      One Doomed Spacemarine it’s probably CZcams audio compression messing with the frequency

  • @easternslavicmapping2031
    @easternslavicmapping2031 Před 6 lety +36

    7:45 That's right, screwdriver! Your grounded! Go to your room!

  • @weirdfish8251
    @weirdfish8251 Před 4 lety +15

    when you showed the hose I was like ”wait they had those back then?” and then I realised i was dumb.

    • @MilesPrower1992
      @MilesPrower1992 Před 4 lety +2

      Man, must have been tough cleaning things in the times before hoses

  • @iCarlyfan4534
    @iCarlyfan4534 Před 6 lety +9

    I love how people complain about hearing the sweet sounds of crt, i actually like crts for that noise.

  • @xedla4262
    @xedla4262 Před 6 lety +14

    The restoration videos are some of my favorites.

  • @xiwang9560
    @xiwang9560 Před 6 lety +3

    I never get tired watching you cleaning old devices. It's so satisfying.

  • @BeauJeffrey
    @BeauJeffrey Před 6 lety +3

    PCjr was my first computer and is my favorite vintage system. Really glad you got one and I can't wait to see your documentary series!

  • @ScottLeeOfficialWebsite
    @ScottLeeOfficialWebsite Před 6 lety +5

    HI David, use a high pass notic filter EQ with a sharp Q to eliminate the noise you speak of, you can sweep the frequencies in final cut pro and pinpoint the problem.That way you can run this preset on every video worry free. Best of luck! 😊 👍🏻

  • @scharkalvin
    @scharkalvin Před 6 lety +22

    When I was your age I was still able to hear at least as high as 15khz, I remember being able to hear the flyback transformer in CRT TV sets. But my ears are now 23 years older than yours and even THAT frequency is a bit higher than my built in low pass filter!
    BTW, I didn't know that CZcamss frequency response went that high!
    Also, I remember hearing the 20KHZ+ squeel of the alarm system in the American Museum of Natural History's gem exhibit as a kid!

  • @nowhereman4217
    @nowhereman4217 Před 6 lety +6

    I’ve been watching a lot of your restoration videos. I enjoy them very much but man you have way way more patience than I have 😀 Keep these coming. Love your channel.

  • @electricadventures
    @electricadventures Před 6 lety +7

    That came out really well, it was also nice to see how you diagnosed and repaired the CRT, plus also the tips on cleaning the drive etc

  • @red_lane3933
    @red_lane3933 Před 4 lety +4

    DJ: I'm not an expert on monitors
    Also DJ:

  • @KurtRichterCISSP
    @KurtRichterCISSP Před 6 lety +13

    ❤️❤️❤️! My first PC, that set me on the path to a career in computer systems engineering!

  • @razorsz195
    @razorsz195 Před 6 lety +3

    After seeing how busy your schedule is and how long this takes to set up, thanks for making really awesome videos, i love every one of them and have started building my own small collection!

  • @vinced.7713
    @vinced.7713 Před 6 lety +5

    Looks good brother! This was my first computer back in the early 80's - From what I remember we actually opted for this over a Coleco ADAM.

  • @charliecotsanis4748
    @charliecotsanis4748 Před 4 lety +6

    mate, you have nothing to apologise for. your videos are amazing. i love your content. very imformative, very well presented. keep up the good work

  • @lynestrotheconqueror5010
    @lynestrotheconqueror5010 Před 5 lety +64

    I don't see why people dislike the CRT whine, it doesn't bother me. Maybe because I still use them daily?

    • @GAIUSJAKE
      @GAIUSJAKE Před 5 lety +1

      Mr. Dead Inside it doesn't bother me too much either but I'd rather not listen to it. Some details I have used don't make a noise like the Macintosh plus. I don't know why but I just don't hear it.

    • @reckarthack3018
      @reckarthack3018 Před 5 lety +2

      I used to listen to loud music all of the time (like literal earrape) a few years ago, so unless a CRT is facing away from me, I can't hear the whine in the slightest. Also, fun fact, the whine is at 15750Hz (15.75kHz), which is the horizontal refresh rate of the monitor.

    • @cliffhanger5777
      @cliffhanger5777 Před 5 lety +1

      I had one in my school for the entire school year it was a tv making the noise in fact all the TVs where making that sound it gives me a headache

    • @CristalianaIvor
      @CristalianaIvor Před 4 lety

      Because it hurts my ears.

    • @euvo_sound
      @euvo_sound Před 4 lety

      i like the whine very much.Cause when i was a baby i dont cry on those whines.Now some of my young cousins hate that whine.

  • @Kids_Scissors
    @Kids_Scissors Před rokem +1

    I love watching your restoration series. Its very satisfying and cool to see you bring these old machines to near perfect original working order

  • @demagmusic
    @demagmusic Před 6 lety +2

    My first computer was a PCjr. We had the second drive slapped on the top, and a memory expansion and Centronix port strapped to the side, if I recall correctly. Loved it. Loved the cartridges, all of it!
    And FYI: If I spill a drink on my keyboard, I throw it in the dishwasher. No heat, very little detergent. After letting it thoroughly dry for a day or two they always seem to work just fine! Might be worth a try in your many projects

  • @andydoane
    @andydoane Před 6 lety +56

    I'm worried Nicholas Cage might kidnap The 8-Bit Guy because he truly is a national treasure.

    • @BertGrink
      @BertGrink Před 6 lety +1

      I'd like to amend that to "International Treasure" as I'm from Denmark, and i love his videos.

    • @lordofthecats6397
      @lordofthecats6397 Před 6 lety

      Don't worry Cage will start with himself

  • @borninator
    @borninator Před 6 lety +41

    Yay! Perfect ending to my day! My favorite CZcams channel delivers again :)

    • @rjnash2610
      @rjnash2610 Před 6 lety

      Don't speak so soon, lol any money you catch the missus cheating on you when you get home (with the delivery man)...

  • @Awakamis
    @Awakamis Před 6 lety +2

    I grew up using a PCjr. Had a few mods to it. 640k ram and an upgraded processor loved that computer. Learned a lot about DOS and basic on it

  • @adrianreevers891
    @adrianreevers891 Před 6 lety +1

    14:24 is a flashback to elementary school for me. I smiled so much watching this (incredibly satisfying) video. Thank you, and keep up the amazing work.

  • @s.moorefilms3760
    @s.moorefilms3760 Před 6 lety +44

    I think my childhood of using crts has burned the sound into my ears so I always hear it l. Or I just have tinnitus.

    • @miaugato93
      @miaugato93 Před 6 lety +2

      probably tinnitus although you may be right when you say it burned into our ears...

    • @s.moorefilms3760
      @s.moorefilms3760 Před 6 lety +2

      Tiago Costa tinnitus is likely because I have visual snow, which is often accompanied by tinnitus. And plus I haven't had that much time for it to burn into my ears as I am only 15.

    • @TravisTev
      @TravisTev Před 6 lety +1

      Haha, I think I'm experiencing the same thing. Put on headphones, try to play a tone much above 15 kHz, oh is that it? Nope, just the tinnitus. :-D
      Darn. When I was little I could definitely hear the CRT whine from TVs. Could tell they were on even without looking or having the speakers on.

    • @s.moorefilms3760
      @s.moorefilms3760 Před 6 lety

      TravisTev I can still hear the tv's fine but I just constantly hear a higher sound at a lower volume.

    • @s.moorefilms3760
      @s.moorefilms3760 Před 6 lety +1

      TravisTev I also have that problem at the doctor when they test your hearing by playing a very high pitch sound. I'm always thinking I heard it but nope.

  • @GenomaVR
    @GenomaVR Před 6 lety +3

    I love how watching your videos is like a ritual for me, i get my shoes off , make a coffe,and enjoy the video. Keep it up dave! u are awesome!

  • @bobbobson4069
    @bobbobson4069 Před 5 lety

    David (aka 8-bit guy) - another beautiful video. Fascinating to watch! I love your professionalism, modesty, and honesty. Keep up the excellent work! Marius (from Warsaw, Poland)

  • @gene8172
    @gene8172 Před 8 měsíci

    IBM PCjr was our family XMas gift 1984. Limited right out of the box compared to the IBM PC, but got us through High School, practiced BASIC programming, dialed into Compuserve and BBS and generally had fun. Learned word processing and Lotus 1-2-3, which earned me a lot of pizza and rounds of drinks typing other people's papers in college.

  • @luisr6927
    @luisr6927 Před 6 lety +3

    My father used to repair TV sets up to 2001 shortly before he passed away. He did lots of that type of repair. Older TVs from 70s and 80s were very solidly built and heavy and rarely suffered from this. Later sets in the 90s were cheaply built and prone to this type of failure due to heat fatigue from the flyback transformer. I also remember very clearly the high pitched whine made by CRT TVs but not so much computer monitors due to their higher refresh rate. It is now hard to come by a CRT these days so I don't know if my 49 year-old ears can still hear it. I guess not even though in my late teens I was able to hear the old ultrasonic remote controls that were used before IR remotes became popular.

    • @stephensnell5707
      @stephensnell5707 Před rokem

      CRT DEVICES DON'T EXIST NO MORE
      ALSO I WOULD CALL THEM NOT RELIABLE AS THEY WOULD FAIL QUICKLY
      WHEN I WAS YOUNGER I HAD 14 INCH CRT TV THAT ONLY LASTED A MEASLEY 10 YEARS BEFORE THE PART THAT DISPLAYED THE IMAGE FAILED ALTOGETHER WITH ONLY THE SOUND LEFT WORKING
      I LIKE THE MODERN TVS AS THEY ARE LIGHTER AND MORE EFFICIENT ON POWER USAGE

  • @EgoShredder
    @EgoShredder Před 6 lety +8

    I'm 46 and can still hear that high pitch from CRT tubes and regular power supply bricks, and other stuff. I usually notice a sore painful feeling in my ears first, which draws my attention to where the sound is coming from. I've been in rooms and pointed out the sound to people, and they always shrug their shoulders and cannot hear or feel anything. However I have tried to take care of my hearing over the years with ear plugs while at concerts or mowing the lawn etc. I play guitar and do studio recording and always do this at a low to medium volume.

    • @CanuckGod
      @CanuckGod Před 5 lety +1

      It depends on the person, too, some people's high frequency pitch detection degrades at faster rates than others, independent of any other factors, though the fact that you've taken care of your hearing definitely helps prolong that. For what it's worth, I'm 40 and can still hear 15.6 kHz CRT humming clear as day, but it might be another story 10 years from now :D

    • @grumpyinbrooklyn6347
      @grumpyinbrooklyn6347 Před 5 lety

      I'm 51 and I have noticed such noises even recently. on occasion. I wonder if my Asperger's has something to do with that.

    • @spindelanton4648
      @spindelanton4648 Před 5 lety

      I'm 10 and I can't hear it

  • @judsonsnell
    @judsonsnell Před rokem +1

    I'd love to see the full PC jr doc! It was Christmas 1984, my brother and I had been begging for a Macintosh. We opened the "big gift" to find... a PC. In the long run, I was actually grateful. This is back when you'd copy BASIC code from computer magazines, I learned a ton by reverse engineering. Won the 1985 Pennsylvania Computer Fair by creating a rudimentary drum machine (using the onboard saw and noise waves) that let you program and store sixteen 16-step patterns. Truth is, I didn't know there was such a thing as.a drum machine, I just wanted to practice guitar to something.
    But yeah, it's too bad about the PC jr. Kind of a Greek tragedy, where a king's avarice and greed cause a downfall.

  • @pablogarin
    @pablogarin Před 4 lety

    I must admit that your intro is the greatest intro on all of youtube... and I watch a LOT of youtube... that combined with the fact that I love 8-bit computers made me an instant fan...

  • @Clay3613
    @Clay3613 Před 6 lety +187

    A wireless keyboard in the 80s?

    • @youreperfectstudio7931
      @youreperfectstudio7931 Před 6 lety +115

      Yes and they were notoriously troublesome. They used infrared and you have to have it lined up just right.

    • @gavinbennett2302
      @gavinbennett2302 Před 6 lety +12

      That's what I thought!

    • @FluffyTheGryphon
      @FluffyTheGryphon Před 6 lety +31

      I had a set of wireless NES controllers. IR was the tech used in most of these applications. It was unreliable, but we managed.

    • @Miss_Argent
      @Miss_Argent Před 6 lety +17

      Yup - the same tech most TV remotes used/use, on that note.

    • @j2ehyp
      @j2ehyp Před 6 lety +3

      They also used a cable to connect to the PC if you didn't want to use wireless. I believe it was literally a phone cable.

  • @ThePrinzKassad
    @ThePrinzKassad Před 6 lety +36

    15:08 High pitched noise? Did I missed something? Where is the noise? I don't... oh... forgot... I'm hearing impairment ^^ SRY
    Oh and I take the moment to THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH for providing subtitles every time! ♥♥♥
    It's already hard to hear properly but then in English (I'm German by the way) it's sometimes harder but with the subtitle...
    I think that's one of the few things where I just can't show enough how much I appreciate it!
    I really know how hard it is to provide subtitles on CZcams, I did it once on a 2min video and my first thought were "OMG why does YT make it so complicate or is it always complicate to do them"... so thank you very very very much again ♥

    • @Lara-rm3gs
      @Lara-rm3gs Před 5 lety +5

      ThePrinzKassad I’ll make sure to try to add subtitles to every video I see now, you reminded me that there are people who are less fortunate than I am and can’t hear very well.

    • @kawatzaki
      @kawatzaki Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah, subtitles also help people that can't play the audio, they also work as a wonderful base for translating, since you can use the current English ones and change it up, sentence-by-sentence.

  • @TheSybermedic
    @TheSybermedic Před 5 lety

    THANK YOU! for this video. The PCjr was my first computer back in 1986. The keyboard you have is the second for the PCjr, it shipped with a chicklet keyboard and the one you have was a free replacement from IBM because so many people complained about the chicklet version.
    I wish I still had my PCjr, by the time I was done mine had a Raccore Drive 2 with 512Kb of RAM 2 5.35" floppies, The Voice Card, Power Expansion Card, Mouse Card, and a 20MB RLL Hard Drive. I also had the PCEnterprises jrExcellerator which replaced the processor with a V20 running at 9Mhz. I can;'t wait to watch your documentary on the PCjr.

  • @flmalegre
    @flmalegre Před 6 lety

    DJ's got both looks and brains! I'm definitely gonna steal that paperclip trick for my own fixes from now on.

  • @SomethingAbstract
    @SomethingAbstract Před 6 lety +16

    I love the old CRT HV "Whine" at 6:22, reminds me of the first computers I used :)

    • @Firevine
      @Firevine Před 6 lety +7

      Thanks for the timestamp. I can hear the initial high pitched pop, but not a continuous whine. Even then, I can only hear it in my right ear. I used an app sometime back that was supposed to be a tinnitus treatment, and it let you dial up the frequency until it matched the ringing in your ears, and it just so happens that my tinnitus is right in that 15khz range. The app didn't do crap other than that. :(

    • @SomethingAbstract
      @SomethingAbstract Před 6 lety

      I'm just glad I still have enough of the hearing range to hear that

    • @Niarbeht
      @Niarbeht Před 6 lety

      Interesting. Is your hearing damage localized to just that spot, or is it everything above 15KHz?

    • @Firevine
      @Firevine Před 6 lety

      Niarbeht That frequency range and higher just seems to blend in with the tinnitus. Right about 15.3khz was where I couldn't discern the two sounds.

    • @Niarbeht
      @Niarbeht Před 6 lety

      I'd say, "Sucks, man", but I'm pretty sure there's not a lot that's useful up in that hearing range.

  • @colormetwisted
    @colormetwisted Před 6 lety +4

    I like the guy you had on. Normally i get annoyed when youtubers i watch have guests for whatever reason, but he was nice.

    • @windhelmguard5295
      @windhelmguard5295 Před 6 lety

      i don't mind it when they are physically in the same place, using the same equipment.
      what seriously takes me out of it is when they are colaborating over vast distances, using different recording equipment and settings, especially when one of them has significantly lower mic quality than the other i just can't.

    • @colormetwisted
      @colormetwisted Před 6 lety

      suddenly hearing terrible mic echo is just the worst haha

  • @nerdiisage6032
    @nerdiisage6032 Před 5 lety

    i need 500 more of these videos. I stumbled upon your videos last week and I'm already almost through all of these haha I love watching them before bed, it's a great way to unwind.

  • @HerbieHerbHerb
    @HerbieHerbHerb Před 4 lety

    I’m happy I found your channel. I was a fan of the Computer Chronicles back in the 80s. Thanks for all your hard work. 👍

  • @djlamar2
    @djlamar2 Před 6 lety +7

    When you guys booted up the monitor the second time I kept saying "Come on. Turn on for them." Because I love when you can fix old computers :)

    • @keithbrown7685
      @keithbrown7685 Před 6 lety +2

      I wasn't thinking when I said "come on... turn on, mr tv ..... " I know, it's not a tv, but I was rooting for them. : )

    • @Crazytesseract
      @Crazytesseract Před 4 lety

      Well, Carlson want exactly the kind of guy who ate glass shards regularly 🤷

  • @wrentubes1886
    @wrentubes1886 Před 6 lety +121

    8-Bit Guy, try using a 15734 Hz notch filter to eliminate CRT whine! This frequency comes from the 525 lines x 30 frames x 1000/1001 scan rate of a CRT in 15khz/NTSC mode. This would eliminate whine without dulling the audio.

    • @the_expidition427
      @the_expidition427 Před 6 lety +5

      Elliot Clark that is how one sounds though

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife Před 6 lety +47

      Totally eliminating the whine is inaccurate. It is part of the experience of using a CRT (at least those which run at TV scan rates), just like the static electricity and heat they generate. I'm a little too old to hear the whine now, but I _can_ hear the audible degradation caused by the filter that tries to remove it. Reducing it by just 6 dB (equal to cutting its volume in half) would be a good compromise to appease the whining about the whine while not eliminating it entirely, and thus also being more accurate to reality and causing less degradation to the rest of the audio.

    • @pokepress
      @pokepress Před 6 lety +4

      I was going to suggest a notch filter (as opposed to the “remove high frequencies” or low pass filter he showed) as well. Great for removing constant hum, but I understand why some would want to leave it in.

    • @realdiamondplays
      @realdiamondplays Před 6 lety +1

      I am surprised that 2 replies were about this comment because they knew what it was. I do too but I was about to laugh.

    • @derdingobaron
      @derdingobaron Před 6 lety +2

      If only you could remove the CRT whine in real life...

  • @tj71520
    @tj71520 Před 4 lety

    40 year old retro nerd here. I also never noticed any high pitch sounds in any of your videos :-) I can confirm that us older guys just can't here it. I have some old systems as well but I am envious of your collection :-)

  • @teck13
    @teck13 Před 4 lety

    Anxious and excited to see your full documentary on the PCjr.

  • @hypolyxa7207
    @hypolyxa7207 Před 6 lety +36

    DJ is a bloody surgeon. Next time you get him on you should hand him a lab coat or something. :D Amazing video.

  • @augustcelineiii946
    @augustcelineiii946 Před 5 lety +5

    DJ is freakin' awesome. I don't actually know him, but upon inspection his awesomeness is very obvious.

  • @jonathankovacs1809
    @jonathankovacs1809 Před 4 lety

    This little computer will always have a place on my shelf! It was the computer that got me through my senior year of High School my beloved CoCo just was not up to the job anymore! These computers started me on a long career with all kinds of computers!

  • @BrunovskyPlays
    @BrunovskyPlays Před 6 lety +1

    Hi David, I love to watch your videos, you have one of the best CZcams channels I've ever seen! It's always great when I see a notification for a new video! Keep up the good work and greetings from Brazil!

  • @amartellacci9594
    @amartellacci9594 Před 6 lety +3

    Fascinating, as always.

  • @thatsalotofdux3774
    @thatsalotofdux3774 Před 6 lety +8

    dude your videos are the best i love your work keep it up i mean it

  • @KentReynolds
    @KentReynolds Před 6 lety

    I don’t know why but these restoration vids are deeply satisfying to watch! Satisfies my OCD...

  • @sracer
    @sracer Před 6 lety

    Great video on the repair and restoration! It brought back a lot of memories for me. I worked for IBM during the time that the PC jr was released and IBM gave us a great employee discount to buy them. (probably because it wasn't so successful)
    The way to expand the capabilities of the PC jr was to add "sidecar" modules. When I got done with all the additions, the width of the unit increased by over 50%! LOL
    Looking forward to your documentary on the "little guy".

  • @nickblackburn1903
    @nickblackburn1903 Před 6 lety +3

    Great video David, also great work by DJ, well done. You, LGR. Metal Jesus Rocks & Classic Game Room are my favourite CZcamsrs. Nice work.

  • @samrevo85
    @samrevo85 Před 5 lety +216

    I read the title as ICBM Repair and Restoration and nearly freaked out..

  • @boredgrass
    @boredgrass Před 6 lety

    The way You deal with little details like the IBM label, makes it really special! :-)

  • @dust_ee
    @dust_ee Před 6 lety

    I've watched this a couple times along with the unboxing for February, and I think the extra top cover was to replace the sticker on the keyboard. Your fix still turned out looking really nice still!

  • @davetate1155
    @davetate1155 Před 6 lety +9

    That PC Jr is cleaner than my 18month old PC, im lazy gotta dust it out. Ive never heard the CRT whine you speak of!?!?

    • @ct92404
      @ct92404 Před 6 lety +1

      David T Me either. Not even when I was a kid and used computers and watched tv and played video games on a CRT tv's. No one ever heard any "whine" sound or complained about one coming from tvs or monitors.

    • @SpeedySPCFan
      @SpeedySPCFan Před 6 lety +1

      It's all about how good your hearing is. 15khz CRTs like the one in the video and most TVs emit a 15khz whine. Some people can hear that high when they're younger, some can't, but most of the time it seems that good of hearing goes away sometime in your 20s.
      Personally I don't even understand why people are complaining about it; maybe I'm just used to it but I don't really care about it.

  • @reeffeeder
    @reeffeeder Před 6 lety +52

    5:27 WHERE DID YOU GO 8-BIT GUY!!!

  • @FharishAhmed
    @FharishAhmed Před 5 lety

    Man O Man!! The level of Patience you have! 😱😱😱😱😮😮😮

  • @MP-Fin
    @MP-Fin Před 6 lety +1

    Amazing restoration! Thank you for making videos, never stop!

  • @aiko1697
    @aiko1697 Před 5 lety +9

    "I'm using a very high tech tool here. It's called my pocket knife"
    XDD

  • @TheGeekPub
    @TheGeekPub Před 6 lety +343

    I loved the repair idea. Seems to work well. Was there something that caused you guys to go this route rather than just soldering jumper wires between the components (bypassing the traces completely)?

    • @The8BitGuy
      @The8BitGuy  Před 6 lety +118

      That is what I would have done under normal circumstances. But DJ thought this method was better.

    • @Gloworm17
      @Gloworm17 Před 6 lety +104

      I am a very novice engineer but what comes to mind is "high voltage" or "high frequency signalling". Those two always seem to be picky in their "routing". While the wires would be more robust in amperage, just sheer resistance or length could have major influences. I'm with DJ. Just my two cents.

    • @TheGeekPub
      @TheGeekPub Před 6 lety +42

      David I figured that was probably the case. I was mostly wondering about the board flexing and breaking those joints again at some point (since the board itself was not reinforced or glued back together).

    • @TheTXDj
      @TheTXDj Před 6 lety +113

      It's definitely a concern - the board is obviously still cracked, and the flyback assembly is obviously still heavy. However, this monitor may never again see the kind of abuse that it was subjected to during shipping and handling. And, like Christopher mentioned - since the traces are mostly related to high voltage, keeping it close to the board, and with the same routing is advisable. What David didn't show in the video is that first we tried just to bridge the gaps with solder - on lower voltage signals, that tends to work, but with HV it can be hit-or-miss. So we went back with the tried-and-true paperclip trick. The paperclip bonds well with the solder, provides some mechanical stability in the joint, and provides a solid enough trace repair for the HV to be happy.

    • @TheTXDj
      @TheTXDj Před 6 lety +40

      Also - David mentioned to me that he thinks someone else had the monitor apart at some point in the past, and failed to get one end of the board into the support rails that are molded into the back cover. If that was the case, then the board would have been out of place, and free to flop around. Even still, these old phenolic single-sided boards are not well known for their durability.

  • @dsmyify
    @dsmyify Před 5 lety

    These videos just flyby. Great job 8bit guy.

  • @teacfan1080
    @teacfan1080 Před 6 lety

    Love how you made the badge decal for the keyboard. Nice working machine there!

  • @colonelgraff9198
    @colonelgraff9198 Před 6 lety +9

    Thank you 8jr Guy

  • @MUMSUniverse
    @MUMSUniverse Před 6 lety +10

    "When it doubt, hit it." -IT everywhere

  • @robinpeat
    @robinpeat Před 6 lety

    Love your work Mr. 8bit guy! Especially the restoration videos.

  • @killervacuum
    @killervacuum Před 6 lety

    I think the CRT noise adds to the experience. don't sweat the complaints, great vid as always

  • @klyted2454
    @klyted2454 Před 6 lety +4

    Famous DJ quotes
    "Got my very high tech tool here its my pocket knife"
    What a legend.

  • @gr3yh4wk1
    @gr3yh4wk1 Před 6 lety +46

    90% of IT hardware solutions. Switch it off and on again or give it a good whack.

    • @kevinsong712
      @kevinsong712 Před 3 lety

      Percussive maintenance

    • @arfansthename
      @arfansthename Před 2 lety

      Believe it or not, one verified solution to Apple IIIs crashing is to lift the computer a few feet up, then drop it.

  • @Hannah-bd5or
    @Hannah-bd5or Před 6 lety

    That mock badge was so satisfying! You have the perfectionist's seal of approval for that, amazing job!

    • @stephensnell5707
      @stephensnell5707 Před rokem

      There is no such thing as a mock
      You can't make things up
      Everything IS real

  • @metricmine
    @metricmine Před 4 lety

    Feeling stupid. I just found one of these on the side of the road that someone threw out. I was so excited to get my hands on my first vintage computer. There was even a floppy disk inside, my first time holding one of those. I could not for the life of me figure out get the damn thing open to see inside. Then I saw this guy just lift the top cover and I got mad "hey, you didn't show me what you did to get the cover loose." I went back to the computer and held the edge of the cover and pulled it open. It was so simple. I opened so many computers in my life and this was the one that stumped me!

  • @funnygeeks8126
    @funnygeeks8126 Před 6 lety +3

    I'm excited to see the overview for the IBM pc Jr when it comes out. My dad still has his, and I want to know more about it.

  • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
    @amirpourghoureiyan1637 Před 6 lety +9

    The reason the keys haven’t yellowed was due to it being made of a different plastic, if my memory serves me I think it was LDPE as opposed to the fireproof treated case plastic, this was standard practice for IBM as seen in other PCs of theirs from the time.
    Not to be pedantic but I and a few others would have preferred you to have peeled the serial sticker of the keyboard instead of cutting it open, it’s a rare computer that commands a high price due to the short time it was on the market.

    • @Tahngarthor
      @Tahngarthor Před 5 lety

      eh it was just the barcode and htere probably isn't a machine in existence anymore that knows what to do with that barcode anyway.
      Also there was no getting around damaging the label to get the keyboard open, this was a common practice to void warranties and identify tampering. Those labeles are EXTREMELY difficult to remove without damaging them. THe best you might be abl e to do is to try to steam it off, which is still going to damage it at least a little.

  • @75Bird455
    @75Bird455 Před 4 lety

    My very first computer. Introduced me to Dos 2.10 and BASIC. Great memories flooding back!

  • @Norweeg
    @Norweeg Před 6 lety

    Great narration, editing and camera work on this video. I think it's one of your better ones.

  • @Tuxy79
    @Tuxy79 Před 6 lety +8

    This is my favourite CZcams channel.

  • @Rednax35
    @Rednax35 Před 6 lety +10

    I find these videos interesting.
    I like it.

  • @nickwashburn723
    @nickwashburn723 Před 6 lety

    the label fix was pretty impressive. I never would have attempted that. good job.

  • @marccarson7620
    @marccarson7620 Před 6 lety

    Excellent job, with the PC jr. It was really neat to watch and I enjoyed the music as well, thanks.

  • @spiderobert
    @spiderobert Před 6 lety +13

    a more reliable way to remove the high-pitched sound when you can't hear it would be to use the spectrum analyzer in Soundtrack Pro (I assume you have that since it comes with Final Cut Pro) then you can visually see consistent frequency noise and just delete it.

    • @Niarbeht
      @Niarbeht Před 6 lety +1

      No, no, no, you have to be like Homestar Runner and baleet it.

  • @pwneytube
    @pwneytube Před 6 lety +22

    the CRT whine is more authentic!

    • @ct92404
      @ct92404 Před 6 lety +2

      Ian Holland How come no one ever complained before in all the many DECADES that CRT tvs and monitors have been around? Millennials are the only ones.

    • @shana_dmr
      @shana_dmr Před 6 lety

      I'm sure nobody watched TV putting his head next to flyback, which is basically the effect you get from watching video about CRTs using headphones. I don't care as I stopped hearing this frequency some time ago so now I can only do a sniff test to detect HV, I'm just trying to find and explanation:)

    • @ct92404
      @ct92404 Před 6 lety

      kroplaaaa LOL...well, yeah you can smell ozone around high voltage circuits (or burning wires if you're unlucky!)

    • @20035079
      @20035079 Před 6 lety +3

      ct92404 because we always have to blame the stupid millennials for everything amirite??
      God shut up already

    • @jorgendnilsson
      @jorgendnilsson Před 6 lety +1

      Nah. Kids did complain back in the 80s and 90s too about this. I've was only able to hear it when the CRT was powering up or down, and drops in frequency.

  • @dimnimrod2978
    @dimnimrod2978 Před 6 lety

    I live in Fort Worth and I can easily tell you guys are locals based on your dialects lol. I enjoy watching your retro restorations; please keep it up!

  • @mattmguitar
    @mattmguitar Před 6 lety

    Always happy to see a new video! Thank you very much for making these.