I bought a new Burgman 400 in February of this year (2022) and have over 15,200 miles on it. If you ride going 65 miles an hour, you might see 65 mpg if you're lucky. I regularly go 80 miles an hour and the engine is screaming at 8,000 rpm's. It's very stable at all speeds and is a joy to ride. The brake lights and headlights are all LED lighting, while all the blinkers are regular light bulbs. Recently my rear brakes were chattering and squealing a bit and the dealer said they were defective and malfunctioning. The dealer is now working with Suzuki to have them replaced under warranty. So far, no issues other than that. I love the scooter and I regularly ride 60-130 miles a day. My longest ride was 4 1/2 hours in one stretch and only stopping for gas. My record number of hours riding in one day was 8. My butt wasn't really sore enough to complain. Still love the bike.
This bike was tuned for commuting and a lot of it hasn't changed besides engine specs from the 2003-2006 models. My only advice for anyone wanting this for touring and overcoming the power issues while still maintaining this mpg is installing a set of heavier sliders in the CVT, effectively like changing a sprocket on a standard chain trans giving the bike more top end power at the speeds you struggled with while losing a little of the take off power [actually solves itself if you go WOT - still enough torque from this vibey single to move even up to 4 grams heavier weights]
I've got a 2012 an400 and would love a little extra top end. It currently does 110kph at just over 7000rpm, you can tell it doesn't like revving out so much. The red line's at, 9000rpm. Could you suggest what I could do to solve this problem? Thanks so much.
My dad's got the older bigger brother, the 650 executive. Despite always riding motorcycles (and still having one) he does absolutely love the thing. It's bulky beast, but it's got quite the acceleration especially in its 'sporty' mode. Might actually be that little bit of extra oomph the 400 sometimes seems to lack.
When considering the value proposition of the 400, it has one huge advantage; absolutely stunning braking with it's twin front discs, superb ABS and long wheelbase. No scooter with a single front disc will come close. Experienced riders will know that this really matters in the crowded urban grind.
I tested this a few weeks ago. It was my first time in a scooter. It took me a second to get used to not having pegs under me, but I really like it. That bike really had the best front brake I've tried - the back was mostly non-existent, but the front was good. I think UK MPGs rate higher then US MPGs, but 70 MPGS sounds good to me. I'm really thinking about getting one of these If I do, I will into doing a cross-country trip on it. I just wish they offered cruise. Honda should be nice and let Suzuki use its DCT on this...I wonder what the new radial quickshifter would be like on this with a shift buttons on the bars....
This IS a mid range scoot. Same power/less speed than Forza 350. And less luggage space. It's not only NOT cheap. It's crazy expensive for what it is. I would definitely consider the Honda at £5,800, than this at £7,000.
Compared to the 2012 Burgman I used to have the power is down from 33 bhp to 28, the top speed is down from 90 mph to 85 and the underseat storage is down from 62 litres to 42. And my legs stayed dry in the rain. Hmmm... I think I would still have one though.
Yamaha have done the same with the new xmax 125, They have put the engine from the nmax 125 in it which is only 11hp much to small for a big scooter, the euro 4 has a 15hp 125 engine which is capable of 80mph The new euro 5 is terrible
£6999 cheap??? 28 bhp which is terrible for a 200 kg plus scooter, not brilliant suspension either....honda adv 350 £5699 a way better choice....lazy suzuki! Old model had 33bhp and 64 litre storage so it's hardly progress.
I have the 2009 model, with some upgrades. Full malossi transmission (front and back) and a givi windshield (windflow) makes it in this set-up a very nice maxiscooter. Acceleration is much better. At topspeed 160km/h the revs don't go in the redzone. And the windshield gives you the feeling like sitting in a cocoon.
wouldn’t you say the Yamaha X max 400 is closer competition in price and power and features than the Yamaha T-max which is a much more premium and powerful product?
@badgical No, it doesn't easily match the birdman. I had a max three hundred and I switched to a birdman four hundred I feel like there's more power on the freeway than the xmax, and the xmax loses due to comfort and leg room much terrible for legrom640
You forgot about Honda Forza 350. Lighter, more storage, lighter, faster. Bigger storage, traction control. £1300 cheaper. Where is the great value of the Burgman? How much Suzuki payed you, for all of these bollocking? They shouldn't ask more than £6000. Tmax is a totally different legue.
The mic produced nasty noise due to its position on the notebook. You'd better prop it up on a jacket next time for a more professional set up:) Otherwise, thanks for the review.
A head-to-head with the Forza 350 is needed. On value it seems difficult to defend the Burgman... it's heavier, over a grand extra, higher fuel consumption, and only 70cc more than the Honda.
I wouldn't trade the stunning braking of the Suzuki for a cheaper price. The superior twin disc setup on the Suzuki only has to save your hide once. I look at the single front disc on the Honda, and I go 'No way'.
I have the Burgman 650 Executive that is sadly no longer made. It is in my opinion the benchmark for maxi scooters. I'm sure the 400 is up to the job but I want a bit more grunt when I'm out on the open road. Maxi scooters are made for touring.
£6995 for the Burgman 400 is difficult to justify when the Honda Forza 350 is £5699, the Forza has the benefit of an electrically-powered raise/lower windshield, a good feature for the issue of wind buffeting around the rider's crashhelmet at speed. The Forza seems to match the Burgman in all areas for less money and more options for body colour, I have noted pre-registered zero-mile Burgmans for as low as £5995.
The x max / forza and all the other scooters are not a match for the Suzuki you can't by one of them now as true 400cc and all have twin shocks, and the ride quality is nowhere near the Suzuki they are all no paper very similar but in reality, they ride nothing like each other although I have to agree the Suzuki is no faster, but that is missing the point none of them are built for performance they are built for convenance.
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Actually, the Bergman 400 is fast, I can hit 0 to 60 and 6 seconds going down for you. No issues whatsoever, I've had people that were impressed with me and I weighed 219 pounds. What does that tell you no I would say? It's pretty quick quicker than my forge at three fifty
I searched and couldn’t find where the Suzuki Burgman scooters are manufactured. Some say China, others say India. These scooters are still more comfortable than any other scooters on the market. For me, the Burgman 200 would be sufficient.
I have both brands of scooter and I could confirm that Yamaha is more economical and cheaper to maintain unlike Burgman which is very expensive to maintain and spare parts are very expensive and without forgetting that Burgman scooters burn fuel. same oil
Don't compare it with Yamaha T-Max. Don't look up to TMax, because that one plays in a different upper league. Compare it with Honda Forza, Yamaha XMax, SYM Maxsym 400 or Cruisym 300, Zontes M310, Kymco Xciting VS 400.
If I were to go the maxi scooter route, I think I'd go all the way and get a Honda Forza or BMW C650. I've never cared for the looks of the Burgman. But honestly, I'd get a Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor before I bought a scooter; I've always felt motorcycles were more versatile.
No comparison with the tmax whatsoever! Lots of similar maxi scooters. Kawasaki j300 around half the price ish. Joy max i think about 4500 pounds. Then the best is the Honda Forza 350 or Yamaha xmax 300. Burgervan not grabbing me.
You are wrong in comparing Burgman400 to Tmax560. Thry are not in direct competition . Tmax iş in another league. Probably xmax300, forza350, beverly400 and xciting400 are clise rivals.
They did. Unfortunately emissions standards killed it off a few years ago. And it was a lot faster. How's 115 sound? Unfortunately it was also heavy. Very heavy. Heavier than a Hayabusa believe it or not, despite being half the capacity.
I had a Burgman 400 many years ago. The company specs indicate the 650 weighs 611 lb while the Hayabusa comes in at 586 lb. Maxiscoots always seem to be heavier than equivalent motorcycles.
@@brianfraser2495 Yes I've noticed. Don't know why. OK there's a lot more bodywork but it's only plastic. And CVT transmission can't weigh more than a manual one. As for the weight difference between the Burgman 650 and the Hayabusa, that's a complete mystery. A 650 that weighs more than a 1300?
nope no sale to expensive for a scooter, over 8 grand, be real. yep Vespa is also a scooter and i would give the same answer it is just a scooter. what would change my mind review and price the scooter correctly it just a single cyl , 400cc small motor, with two small wheels.
This channel needs to do better research. Good value? Its getting crushed by the competition from the honda forza or the bmw c400 (more power, storage, comfort) AND the burgman 400 is certainly not comparable with a t-max! The t-max is a two-cylinder track-machine, compared to the aging burgman.
The 400 Bergman is not slow. I have one here in California. I've smoked cars off the line matter of fact. I took off on a force of 300 which they don't even get over here in the United States. And we raced and I smoked it. And I weighed 219 pounds. No, it's not slow whatsoever, it'll take off quick. It won't take off like a sports bike, but it's very fast. Are you kidding me
I would say that maxi scooters aren't popular in the uk because having a history of beautiful machines the things are just so ugly, oh i know they work well but oh god , look at it.
Ugly thing and too expensive. I'm not anti-scooter as, in Chiang Rai, I have a Yamaha Aerox 155 as my local runaround. If this Suzuki was styled nicely and wasn't so pricey ...
I live here in Bangkok in the 400 is fantastic on the expressway. Are you kidding me? It's not ugly to me. Maybe to some people, but I don't even like the arrow you have. I'm not into that either. I don't like small scooters. I like big scooters and this thing can move at one hundred and sixty kilometers an hour
That car is unlikely to match the caliber of this scooter at £7k though, no? The money one would have to put into that car over time would cause the cost of that car to exceed the amount of money one would have to put into the maxi scooter as well, to say nothing of the difference in fuel economy.
I have both brands of scooter and I could confirm that Yamaha is more economical and cheaper to maintain unlike Burgman which is very expensive to maintain and spare parts are very expensive and without forgetting that Burgman scooters burn oil even brand new like all Suzuki cars
I bought a new Burgman 400 in February of this year (2022) and have over 15,200 miles on it. If you ride going 65 miles an hour, you might see 65 mpg if you're lucky. I regularly go 80 miles an hour and the engine is screaming at 8,000 rpm's. It's very stable at all speeds and is a joy to ride. The brake lights and headlights are all LED lighting, while all the blinkers are regular light bulbs. Recently my rear brakes were chattering and squealing a bit and the dealer said they were defective and malfunctioning. The dealer is now working with Suzuki to have them replaced under warranty. So far, no issues other than that. I love the scooter and I regularly ride 60-130 miles a day. My longest ride was 4 1/2 hours in one stretch and only stopping for gas. My record number of hours riding in one day was 8. My butt wasn't really sore enough to complain. Still love the bike.
As I read. A great machine.
I've been riding this 2020 Burgman 400 for a year now and it has been a Fantastic experience ....Great bike I love it
2 years with mine and I'm really excited about riding it all the time
This bike was tuned for commuting and a lot of it hasn't changed besides engine specs from the 2003-2006 models. My only advice for anyone wanting this for touring and overcoming the power issues while still maintaining this mpg is installing a set of heavier sliders in the CVT, effectively like changing a sprocket on a standard chain trans giving the bike more top end power at the speeds you struggled with while losing a little of the take off power [actually solves itself if you go WOT - still enough torque from this vibey single to move even up to 4 grams heavier weights]
I've got a 2012 an400 and would love a little extra top end. It currently does 110kph at just over 7000rpm, you can tell it doesn't like revving out so much. The red line's at, 9000rpm. Could you suggest what I could do to solve this problem? Thanks so much.
My dad's got the older bigger brother, the 650 executive. Despite always riding motorcycles (and still having one) he does absolutely love the thing. It's bulky beast, but it's got quite the acceleration especially in its 'sporty' mode. Might actually be that little bit of extra oomph the 400 sometimes seems to lack.
I'm 5'9" and it fits me Great
When considering the value proposition of the 400, it has one huge advantage; absolutely stunning braking with it's twin front discs, superb ABS and long wheelbase. No scooter with a single front disc will come close. Experienced riders will know that this really matters in the crowded urban grind.
To me it looks just great. A lot of reviews are saying that this is a quality machine and I agree. Great video. Enjoyed.
I tested this a few weeks ago. It was my first time in a scooter. It took me a second to get used to not having pegs under me, but I really like it. That bike really had the best front brake I've tried - the back was mostly non-existent, but the front was good.
I think UK MPGs rate higher then US MPGs, but 70 MPGS sounds good to me. I'm really thinking about getting one of these
If I do, I will into doing a cross-country trip on it. I just wish they offered cruise. Honda should be nice and let Suzuki use its DCT on this...I wonder what the new radial quickshifter would be like on this with a shift buttons on the bars....
I had a V-Strom 1000 before my Burgman. The Strom's 4pot twin discs and ABS were not as good as the brakes on my 400. Hard to believe but true.
Riding for 1 year now - just perfect!
Thank you for your honest review bro.
This IS a mid range scoot. Same power/less speed than Forza 350. And less luggage space. It's not only NOT cheap. It's crazy expensive for what it is. I would definitely consider the Honda at £5,800, than this at £7,000.
Compared to the 2012 Burgman I used to have the power is down from 33 bhp to 28, the top speed is down from 90 mph to 85 and the underseat storage is down from 62 litres to 42. And my legs stayed dry in the rain. Hmmm... I think I would still have one though.
Yamaha have done the same with the new xmax 125,
They have put the engine from the nmax 125 in it which is only 11hp much to small for a big scooter, the euro 4 has a 15hp 125 engine which is capable of 80mph
The new euro 5 is terrible
£6999 cheap??? 28 bhp which is terrible for a 200 kg plus scooter, not brilliant suspension either....honda adv 350 £5699 a way better choice....lazy suzuki! Old model had 33bhp and 64 litre storage so it's hardly progress.
Totally agree, so much so, I bought one.
Me too!
@@mikees60 which did you buy gents
@@charlieboyvespa8610 ADV 350
what years did it have 33bhp?!
I have the 2009 model, with some upgrades. Full malossi transmission (front and back) and a givi windshield (windflow) makes it in this set-up a very nice maxiscooter. Acceleration is much better. At topspeed 160km/h the revs don't go in the redzone. And the windshield gives you the feeling like sitting in a cocoon.
Great comment about the rear in the wet. I've got the older model without the TC and I regularly spin the back on wet roundabouts when pulling away.
wouldn’t you say the Yamaha X max 400 is closer competition in price and power and features than the Yamaha T-max which is a much more premium and powerful product?
It would certainly be a fairer comparison.
@@Nooziterp1 Unfortunately the Yamaha is not being made in 400cc any more
@@paulblatchford4234No but a 300 Which performance is easily a match for 400 Bergman
@badgical No, it doesn't easily match the birdman. I had a max three hundred and I switched to a birdman four hundred I feel like there's more power on the freeway than the xmax, and the xmax loses due to comfort and leg room much terrible for legrom640
You forgot about Honda Forza 350. Lighter, more storage, lighter, faster. Bigger storage, traction control. £1300 cheaper. Where is the great value of the Burgman? How much Suzuki payed you, for all of these bollocking? They shouldn't ask more than £6000. Tmax is a totally different legue.
The weasel word being "nearest competitor", if the Forza 350 is significantly better in any one category, then technically they get away with it.
Apparently Burgman has better ergonomic for tall riders. Being 6’5”, this is a major consideration for me
I've never seen a Honda Forza 350 in the great 🇺🇸 USA
@Robert Salyers exactly! we only get the burgs, and the xmax.
The BMW C400GT has 35hp. Less storage, but better looking IMHO!
The mic produced nasty noise due to its position on the notebook. You'd better prop it up on a jacket next time for a more professional set up:) Otherwise, thanks for the review.
And what about Kymco Xciting 400 S as a competition?
A head-to-head with the Forza 350 is needed. On value it seems difficult to defend the Burgman... it's heavier, over a grand extra, higher fuel consumption, and only 70cc more than the Honda.
The Forza puts out the same power but is lighter and cheaper.
I wouldn't trade the stunning braking of the Suzuki for a cheaper price. The superior twin disc setup on the Suzuki only has to save your hide once. I look at the single front disc on the Honda, and I go 'No way'.
I had the Yamaha 400 scooter. It was great.
I have the Burgman 650 Executive that is sadly no longer made. It is in my opinion the benchmark for maxi scooters. I'm sure the 400 is up to the job but I want a bit more grunt when I'm out on the open road. Maxi scooters are made for touring.
£6995 for the Burgman 400 is difficult to justify when the Honda Forza 350 is £5699, the Forza has the benefit of an electrically-powered raise/lower windshield, a good feature for the issue of wind buffeting around the rider's crashhelmet at speed. The Forza seems to match the Burgman in all areas for less money and more options for body colour, I have noted pre-registered zero-mile Burgmans for as low as £5995.
I've never seen a Honda Forza here in America
Burgman 400 has Linked Type Monocross Suspension, but Honda Forza 350 has Twin-shock and Burgman is definitely better for ride comfort.
The x max / forza and all the other scooters are not a match for the Suzuki you can't by one of them now as true 400cc and all have twin shocks, and the ride quality is nowhere near the Suzuki
they are all no paper very similar but in reality, they ride nothing like each other although I have to agree the Suzuki is no faster, but that is missing the point none of them are built for performance they are built for convenance.
I ride an X-Max 300, i get over 100mpg on A & B roads, motorways are poor economy in comparison unless drafting a large HGV.
Why Suzuki doesn't have these bikes (burgman 400 or 6050) in the USA?????
How does this scooter compare to the Honda Adv 350, which happens to be £1200 cheaper?
I am also interested in this machine. After the Beverly 400 I would also like to try this one. Drop by bro, you may like my content. :)
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The Burgman 400 is just to slow, the Burgman 650 is ok-ish regarding power. But if i wanted a maxi scooter i would probably go for the Yamaha TMAX
Actually, the Bergman 400 is fast, I can hit 0 to 60 and 6 seconds going down for you. No issues whatsoever, I've had people that were impressed with me and I weighed 219 pounds. What does that tell you no I would say? It's pretty quick quicker than my forge at three fifty
Quicker than my forza 350 that I just sold
I searched and couldn’t find where the Suzuki Burgman scooters are manufactured. Some say China, others say India. These scooters are still more comfortable than any other scooters on the market. For me, the Burgman 200 would be sufficient.
I had the 250 version and found the battery compartment an absolute pig had the change mine and it was a mission!
I have both brands of scooter and I could confirm that Yamaha is more economical and cheaper to maintain unlike Burgman which is very expensive to maintain and spare parts are very expensive and without forgetting that Burgman scooters burn fuel. same oil
Wow 6999 pounds? Weights more than a car
ITS NOT CHEEP BRILLIANT BIKE
Don't compare it with Yamaha T-Max. Don't look up to TMax, because that one plays in a different upper league. Compare it with Honda Forza, Yamaha XMax, SYM Maxsym 400 or Cruisym 300, Zontes M310, Kymco Xciting VS 400.
in the us its like $8,599
Seat height is 755mm not 1755mm!
If I were to go the maxi scooter route, I think I'd go all the way and get a Honda Forza or BMW C650. I've never cared for the looks of the Burgman. But honestly, I'd get a Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor before I bought a scooter; I've always felt motorcycles were more versatile.
I don't know about where you live but the Forza and C650 are no longer sold in the US.
It's not that it's a 'bad' bike,
it's just that it's poor value for money compared to what else one's money can buy.
Sorry but not for me.
Why should it cost more than a 400 motorcycle???
No comparison with the tmax whatsoever! Lots of similar maxi scooters. Kawasaki j300 around half the price ish. Joy max i think about 4500 pounds. Then the best is the Honda Forza 350 or Yamaha xmax 300. Burgervan not grabbing me.
The J300 is cheap because it is a Kymco with Kawasaki badges.
The Burgman 650 all the way, much better than the Tmax
You are wrong in comparing Burgman400 to Tmax560. Thry are not in direct competition . Tmax iş in another league. Probably xmax300, forza350, beverly400 and xciting400 are clise rivals.
A tmax is over hyped, to much tech, I got to try one out and it's not much better than my 2023 burgman 400
Didn't Suzuki produce a Burgman 650 ? That would shift a lot faster I'd have thought....
They did. Unfortunately emissions standards killed it off a few years ago. And it was a lot faster. How's 115 sound? Unfortunately it was also heavy. Very heavy. Heavier than a Hayabusa believe it or not, despite being half the capacity.
I had a Burgman 400 many years ago. The company specs indicate the 650 weighs 611 lb while the Hayabusa comes in at 586 lb. Maxiscoots always seem to be heavier than equivalent motorcycles.
@@brianfraser2495 Yes I've noticed. Don't know why. OK there's a lot more bodywork but it's only plastic. And CVT transmission can't weigh more than a manual one. As for the weight difference between the Burgman 650 and the Hayabusa, that's a complete mystery. A 650 that weighs more than a 1300?
@@Nooziterp1Despite being half the capacity you mean four times lower than a hayabusa
What is going on t max burgman sort it out ffs
Poor narration.
Wish you recorded this with more volume!
Really?
nope no sale to expensive for a scooter, over 8 grand, be real. yep Vespa is also a scooter and i would give the same answer it is just a scooter. what would change my mind review and price the scooter correctly it just a single cyl , 400cc small motor, with two small wheels.
The new cfmoto 350D & E on paper, gives all these 300-400CC scooters a run for the money.
This channel needs to do better research. Good value? Its getting crushed by the competition from the honda forza or the bmw c400 (more power, storage, comfort) AND the burgman 400 is certainly not comparable with a t-max! The t-max is a two-cylinder track-machine, compared to the aging burgman.
It’s shocking that a 400 is so slow, the euro 4 xmax 125 will reach 75mph
The 400 Bergman is not slow. I have one here in California. I've smoked cars off the line matter of fact. I took off on a force of 300 which they don't even get over here in the United States. And we raced and I smoked it. And I weighed 219 pounds. No, it's not slow whatsoever, it'll take off quick. It won't take off like a sports bike, but it's very fast. Are you kidding me
I meant to say forza 350
@@jasontomica8938 maybe take off is ok but top speed is very slow,
I would say that maxi scooters aren't popular in the uk because having a history of beautiful machines the things are just so ugly, oh i know they work well but oh god , look at it.
That's a matter of opinion. Personally I think it looks good.
Yamaha t max
hahaha, that thing is so wrong and what about aqua planning?
Ugly thing and too expensive. I'm not anti-scooter as, in Chiang Rai, I have a Yamaha Aerox 155 as my local runaround. If this Suzuki was styled nicely and wasn't so pricey ...
I live here in Bangkok in the 400 is fantastic on the expressway. Are you kidding me? It's not ugly to me. Maybe to some people, but I don't even like the arrow you have. I'm not into that either. I don't like small scooters. I like big scooters and this thing can move at one hundred and sixty kilometers an hour
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Honda Forza and ADV are by far better options. This is outdated and stupid in many ways.
£7k for a scooter ? Cheap ? Get a Car .Warm & dry in winter ,carries 5 plus luggage ,Stereo and ash trays .
No comparison. Chalk and cheese.
That car is unlikely to match the caliber of this scooter at £7k though, no? The money one would have to put into that car over time would cause the cost of that car to exceed the amount of money one would have to put into the maxi scooter as well, to say nothing of the difference in fuel economy.
Car? Save money in bank.
I have both brands of scooter and I could confirm that Yamaha is more economical and cheaper to maintain unlike Burgman which is very expensive to maintain and spare parts are very expensive and without forgetting that Burgman scooters burn oil even brand new like all Suzuki cars