I just read about a man named Muhammad Sven kalisch. A convert to islam and a theologian and professor at a German university who tried to do a deep dive into Islamic history and discovered that Muhammad never existed. He subsequently renounced islam in 2010.
I’m always amazed at anyone intelligent/educated who buys into such obvious fraud. At least the man had the good sense to investigate and got himself out.
The whole idea that Abraham helped build the Kaaba in Mecca, a city that didn't exist until thousands of years after his death, that's about as believable as the sun leaving our solar system at night to the throne of Allah and getting permission to rise again in the east before setting in a pool of muddy waters. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly! And since the area that would much, much later become Mecca was about a 1,000-mile journey from Hebron, ancient maps show us the infrastructure of ancient cities and wells didn’t even exist that would have made the journey possible.
god knows me islam is true islam is true islam is true corruption of the old testament and the many type of torah the masoratic text the original hebrew the septuagint corruption the many stream of translation we dont know where many of them but just some survived translation the samaritan torah only 5 book of moses these three are disagree with each other in many places quran have no interpolation unlike bible that come in transmission period return to original text is the very purpose of bible textual criticism which indicate a problem in the journey its make sense to god resend a new book and then preserve it for real unlike bible and for the whole world bcz the book is preserve to end time genesis 5:31 septuagint said 753 years for lamech masoratic said 777 years for lamech samaritan said 653 years for lamech Transmission break #1 - Sometime between Moses (approx. 1300 BCE) and King Josiah (approx. 600 BCE) Transmission break #2 - Sometime between King Josiah (approx. 600 BCE) and Ezra (approx. 400 BCE) And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.” [Hebrews 1:6] The above quotation is made by Paul in the New Testament and is citing Deuteronomy 32:43. masoratic doesnt have taht if bible need a repair and correct the mistake after hundred of years to make the mistake disappears thats mean its not perfectly preserved and not aided by divine also not understandable by regular mental power so many copyist error that make into the text the bible is obviously intend to be preserved and unchanhed and whomever add or substract will get punished but instead what we get is interpolation and lost of the original word and many variation that get inside it for centuries until scholars repair amd work for it until now they even got divided variant amd corruption of translation jew adding n substracting from their own book, christian adding n substacting from their own book, only muslim dont, they dont have post interpolation after uthman or hereditary mistake the christian believe is poeple just see god yahweh as jesus but no one see god and live in error means you fail for what you claim matthew and luke jesus begot in womb not preexist that only in john in 385 ad people still undecided whether holy spirit is god diciple didnt understand crucified messiah and jew didnt expect crucified messiah there were blindspot it can be said that the crucifixed messiah is made up and jesus is a prophet like quran said the early follower want to obey the law paul split the shema ebionites like a muslim jesus is just a prophet for ebionites and early people septuagint translate man in exodus to be 600.000 in numbers whiches being denied by scholars that men in exodus cannot be taht much or even surpass the 100.000 research been done taht the calculation of census and taxes taht paid by israelite indicate that there were 600.000 not 600 clan and people taht much with much pot jar amd armor should left behind something probably even bones the septuagint missed passage some of jeremiah compare to dead sea scroll though masoratic have it many evangelical and scholars agree innerancy only apply to the original septuagint also have cainan as arphaxad child which not found in earlier manuscript and best manuscript taht used by church father and josephus and early lxx its not there before 220 ad cited by christian web not in codex bizae not even luke early times have cainan people from the past can be have different copies of bible taht have different contain inside of them so its not always the same bible textus receptus included 1 john 5 7 trinity verse and in latin vulgate for longtime earliest christian believe jesus exalted not incarnate and subordinate 72 14 citation luke 10 70 32 citation luke 10 modern bible trans 9 72 6 72 they even changed and revised the old testament book of god and its revised from previous problem thats mean its contained problems and its changed they reject the septuagint today reject the masoratic today and have disagreements and make an eclactic reading why would there are variants reading to choose after all, obviously that went into our modern bible is false variant reading afterall so they correct it the double entendre in jesus conversation with nicodemus doesn’t exist in aramaic also not in hebrew john is liar many lie 32:8 and 32:43. Even though we are comparing the same chapter of Deuteronomy, the texts never completely agree in all verses. Sometimes the DSS agree with the MT over the LXX, as in verse 32:43[ii], and sometimes the DSS agree with the LXX over the MT, as in verse 32:8[iii]. Genesis 16:16, Abraham was 86 years old when Ishmael was born: Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael. And according to Genesis 21:5, Abraham was one hundred years old when Isaac was born: Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him. just talking about text differences not talking about the inconsistency factual error and ethical error in OT and NT from 27 translation 14 : 70 diciple 13 : 72 diciple majority of quran qiraat differences is dialectical its normal and how it supposed to be christian said the personality and characteristic of god can be seen in the bible but why its contradict its own saying like the bible is confusing while paul said god is not the author of confusion , and god repented and feel sorry or even genocide why god allow interpolation to get inside the bible for centuries why not god cut it like quran which dont have hereditary error no two manuscript of nt is the same rasm uthman is so stable and no mistake is hereditary there are word differ but non uthmanic and isolated but still mention the companion reading tradition not hereditary mistake ten canonical reading more or less conform uthmanic reading ten qiraat is dialectical differences uthman is absolutly the architype text and carbon dating point out so you can even reconstruct the stemma that all quran we have today back to that 4 uthman codex shady nasser said oral transmission also soo good Interpolations in the Bible - IS the Bible God's Word? bible interpolation czcams.com/video/9SCECRhQHW0/video.html quranic preservation muslimprophets.com/article.php?aid=37 how can patriavh commit sin? www.jesus-resurrection.info/bible-prophets.html patraich commit sin? unpleasant.ffrf.org/ genocide www.layittoheart.com/septuagint.html septuagint problem sites.google.com/site/errorsinthebible/dss-lxx-vs-mt bible error skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/topics/about.html contradiction www.lyingforjesus.org/Bible-Contradictions/ rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bible_interpolation interpolation sites.google.com/site/isthebiblegodsword/interpolations-in-the-bible/interpolations-in-the-bible lost verse or different version in old testament taht didnt exist while being quoted by prophet or apostle actually in order islam to be true that jesus is islam prophet is not necesserally jesus prophecied about islam or muhammad or probably he was we didnt know but the fact that if jesus actually only a prophet of end time taht command to obey torah law and only send to israel that alone is very inline with islamic messenge that jesus is israelite only prophet not this worldwide religion but only for israel and a prophet that said they need to obey torah and probably circumcision also with prohibited food, muhammad is the one that for universal world and quran as you see quran is preserve in recitation n text which more stable and no hereditary mistake also no interpolation , does this tell you something? because torah is corrupted you can see how ot god comman killing grey haired man child baby pregnant woman animal amd many patriach commiting ugly sin like adultery idolatary and incest its absolutly corrupt jew christian and islam is one line of god so if this two previous religion before islam is corrupt while this prophet are exist we can turn to islam for centuries interpolation inside the bible why god let interpolation inherited? im not make this up scholars said quran dont have hereditary mistake from scribes because sometimes people typos but its not hereditary amd no interpolation why taht happen with bible ? is it coincidence? that quran can be memorize as awhole book amd then have fixed and stable text and have no interpolation amd have no hereditary error, have no contradiction ,have more historical accuracy and more ethical, and scholars said jesus is prophet how far this coincidence could be? the bible depict prophet as sinner doing adultery , drunk, idolatry incest, and genocide command in bible that killed grey haired man infant pregnant woman and animal, and dead sea scroll scribes also ascribe themsels an authority to chnage text as they wish and jew corrupting masoratic text and septuagint that have many variant and disagreement also lacking of verses, it cant be coincidence thatvits happen i think quran is right its easy for god to revealed a new book because he can do all thing also preserving the book rev 22:18 I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto them, God shall add unto him the plagues which are written in this book: rev 22:19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll. but the proof is there are interpolation throughout the time until scholars take away the fake verse
@@jamesbaker2532 Give me an example of what you mean The Qur’an considers Jesus ,peace be upon him , as one of the most 5 greatest prophets who God sent What do you think of that ?
@@zicozico6961 no offense intended. But I think the Quran is man made book. There is no evidence to back it up. It teaches hate. Jesus even though he gave a few prophesies was only prophet but the son of God who came down from heaven to o give his body as a sacrifice for our sins. So you, me and everyone else can go to heaven. God proved this by raising him from the dead. He proved it by hundreds of fulfilled prophecy throughout the ages. It teaches to love even your enemies while the Quran teaches to hate your enemies. Christianity is not a man made religion. It's just the true and only religion. It is not structured to get followers. Lol. It's says you can't do the things you want to. To love your enemy, tp not have a love for money etc. Quran said you get virgins when you die. That's an example of a man made religion thank you
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THIS DEBUNKS ALL THE LIES AND RHETORIC OF JAY. HERE IS A COPY AND PASTE from your bible study on Arabia. Take note that they ascribe many prophets in Arabia as well and even admit that Moses with the Exodus took his sheep to celebrate a festival to the LORD in Mecca. And I Quote from Bible Study Notes. The chief importance of the Hijaz arises from the fact that in it are situated the two holy cities of Mecca and Medina--the cradle and the grave of the Prophet. It is thus the religious center of the Islamic world. 2. Extinct Tribes: Of the extinct tribes the most familiar name is that of Amlak or Amlik (Amalek). By the Arabian genealogists he is variously described as a grandson of Shem and as a son of Ham. In Genesis 36:12 he is a son of Esau's son, Eliphaz, by Timna. They are said to be first met with in Chaldea, from which they were expelled on the rise of the Assyrian power under Nimrod. They migrated into Ar, occupying in turn the Bahrein, Oman, the Yemen, and finally the Hijaz, where they are said to have been the first settlers at Yathrib (Medina) and also to have occupied land round Mecca and Kheibar. In the time of Abraham they were expelled from Mecca on the arrival of two new tribes from the South, those of Jurhum and Katura (Genesis 25:1). Later, it is said, David, during the rebellion of Absalom, took up his quarters in Kheibar and ruled over the surrounding districts. According to another tradition Moses sent an expedition against the Amalekites in the Hijaz, on which occasion the Israelites, disobeying his orders, spared their king Arkam (compare Rekem, Numbers 31:8; Joshua @)--a reminiscence of the incident in the life of Saul (1 Samuel 15). In any case the Amalekites were supplanted in the northern Hijaz by Jewish tribes, who continued there until the time of Mohammad. North Arabian Tribes: Among the Arabs Ishmael holds the place occupied by Isaac in the Hebrew tradition. It was to the valley, afterward the site of the town of Mecca, that Abraham conducted Hagar and her son, and that Ishmael grew up and became the father of a great nation. The locality is full of spots connected by tradition with his life history, the ground where Hagar searched for water, the well Zemzem of which Gabriel showed her the place, the mount Thabir where Abraham would have sacrificed his son (Ishmael), and the graves of Hagar and Ishmael. The Jurhum, among whom Ishmael grew up, gave him seven goats: These were the capital with which he began life. He married a woman of Jurhum. He had twelve sons (Genesis 25:16) of whom Kaidar and Nabat are the best known, perhaps the Cedrei and Nabataei of Pliny; other sons were Dumah and Tema (which see). The subsequent history of the Ishmaelites is lost for several generations until we come to `Adnan, who is said to have been defeated by Nebuchadnezzar, when the latter invaded Arabia. All the Ishmaelite tribes are descended from `Adnan. They are the north Arabian tribes, as opposed to the Kahtanite or south Arabian. One of them, Koreish, under their chief, Kosay, became master of Mecca, driving out Koda`a. Later, as the tribe of the Prophet, they became the rulers of Arabia and the aristocracy of the Muslim empire; and the descendants of Mohammad remain to this day the only hierarchy known to Islam. 7. Foreign Elements: In Arabia there was and still, in spite of religious disabilities, is a large Jewish population. Before the age of Mohammad they lived chiefly in the Northwest, the two best known tribes--An-Nadir and Koreiza--occupying Yathrib (Medina). After the rise of Islam they were expelled from Arabia; but at the present time there are probably some 60,000 Jews in the Yemen alone 2. The Ka`ba, Pilgrimages and Fairs: Though there were many houses of God in the country, the chief religious resort even before the time of Mohammad was Mecca. The House of God (see BETHEL) here was called the Ka`ba, which is the English word "cube," the building being so called from its shape. It was believed to have been built by Abraham and Ishmael. The honor of acting as guardians of the House was a subject of rivalry among the tribes. The office was held consecutively by the tribes of Jurhum, Koda`a and Koreish, and last by the grandfather and uncles of Mohammad. These, therefore, correspond to the tribe of Levi in Israel. It is said to have contained a large number of images, but it is remarkable that the nearer our authorities get to the time of Mohammad the smaller is the number of images mentioned. The chief of these, Hubal, is not named in the Koran. The worship took the form of circumambulation (tawaf), running or marching round the sanctuary (compare Psalms 26:6). An annual visitation was and still is made by those living at a distance, and sacrifices are offered. This is the hajj or pilgrimage; the same name is used for the corresponding rite among the Hebrews (Exodus 10:9 and often). These religious assemblies were combined with fairs, at which markets were held and a considerable trade carried on. Before the time of Mohammad the great annual fair was held at Okaz, a place still pointed out about three days' journey East of Mecca and one day West of Taif. Here were not only all kinds of commercial transactions carried on--auctions, sales, settling of accounts and payment of blood-wit, but an academy was held at which poets recited their odes, and received judgment upon their merits. These fairs were generally held in the sacred months, that is, the first, seventh, eleventh and twelfth months, in which fighting was forbidden. They had therefore a great civilizing and pacifying influence. Ref www.biblestudytools.com/encyclopedias/isbe/arabia.html
To be fair both Christianity and Islam are failed religions. Christianity needed Islam to push it out West so it could colonize the Americas and then conquer Africa to bring Humanity only to fail as these lands became independent and fought one another, while Europe remained contentious of constantly fighting itself no matter what faith was preached. This is why Christianity is a failure. However, Christianity is the intended world religion and so it must reform in some way to complete its purpose otherwise the purpose will not be achieved and if it is not achieved, humanity will not unite. If humanity does not unite, humanity will never become a tier 1 civilization and if such happens humanity will die out as is the Great Filter we are in. We are in the Great Filter, the mechanism responsible for decreasing the possibility of emerging Spacefaring Civilizations. We are in that and the only way to get through it is through unification. We know this. We all know this. But some of us have our heads up our butts about it. "But we need an "US" vs Them." Okay, can the "US" be call of "US" and can the "Them" be our deaths? At least then we would be fighting against extermination and against unfair treatment for something we should all support, right? "But it just wouldn't work." That is not an answer or a rebutal. "There is nothing out there." We have found Galactic Government structures on our moon. Bull F'ing S word. They are active and have people (if you want to call extraterrestrials, people in them). There are cities we have even found on the moon. They are watching us to see if we will be smart enough to realize all of this and just unite, do something that is really simple and stop bitching about it or we'll succumb to our fate for so ridiculous and stupid.
Hey Brother Al Fadi love your work👍🏻 just a suggestion how about you and Jay do a monthly live stream updating us all of both your researches such as the Sana Manuscript or more Aramaic Origins etc as i feel videos are a bit short so live streams on a broad overview would be great! Nevertheless your work is Great God bless
@@footballenthusiast9058 These are some verses of the Qur'an about Satan Can you try to tell me how to believe your claim that the Qur’an is from Satan and there are these verses in the Qur’an? ( O mankind, eat from whatever is on earth [that is] lawful and good and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. )(2:168) ( O you who have believed, enter into Islām completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. )(2:208) (Satan threatens you with poverty and orders you to immorality, while Allah promises you forgiveness from Him and bounty. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing. )(2:268) ( But when she delivered her, she said, "My Lord, I have delivered a female." And Allah was most knowing of what she delivered, and the male is not like the female. "And I have named her Mary, and I seek refuge for her in You and [for] her descendants from Satan, the expelled [from the mercy of Allah)(3:36) (Indeed, those of you who turned back on the day the two armies met [at Uḥud] - it was Satan who caused them to slip because of some [blame] they had earned. But Allah has already forgiven them. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing. )(3:155) ( That is only Satan who frightens [you] of his supporters. So fear them not, but fear Me, if you are [indeed] believers. )(3:175) ( And [also] those who spend of their wealth to be seen by the people and believe not in Allah nor in the Last Day. And he to whom Satan is a companion - then evil is he as a companion. )(4:38) (Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, [O Muḥammad], and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to ṭāghūt,1 while they were commanded to reject it; and Satan wishes to lead them far astray. )(4:60) ( Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of ṭāghūt.1 So fight against the allies of Satan. Indeed, the plot of Satan has ever been weak. )(4:76) (And when there comes to them something [i.e., information] about [public] security or fear, they spread it around. But if they had referred it back to the Messenger or to those of authority among them, then the ones who [can] draw correct conclusions from it would have known about it. And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy, you would have followed Satan, except for a few. )(4:83) ( And I will mislead them, and I will arouse in them [sinful] desires, and I will command them so they will slit the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will change the creation of Allah." And whoever takes Satan as an ally instead of Allah has certainly sustained a clear loss. )(4:119) ( He [i.e., Satan] promises them and arouses desire in them. But Satan does not promise them except delusion. )(4:120) ( O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants, gambling, [sacrificing on] stone altars [to other than Allah], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid1 it that you may be successful. )(5:90) ( Satan only wants to cause between you animosity and hatred through intoxicants and gambling and to avert you from the remembrance of Allah and from prayer. So will you not desist? )(5:91) ( Then why, when Our punishment came to them, did they not humble themselves? But their hearts became hardened, and Satan made attractive to them that which they were doing. )(6:43) ( And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse1 concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people. )(6:68) ( And of the grazing livestock are carriers [of burdens] and those [too] small. Eat of what Allah has provided for you and do not follow the footsteps of Satan.1 Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. )(6:142) ( But Satan whispered to them to make apparent to them that which was concealed from them of their private parts. He said, "Your Lord did not forbid you this tree except that you become angels or become of the immortal." )(7:20) ( So he made them fall, through deception. And when they tasted of the tree, their private parts became apparent to them, and they began to fasten together over themselves from the leaves of Paradise. And their Lord called to them, "Did I not forbid you from that tree and tell you that Satan is to you a clear enemy?" )(7:22) ( O children of Adam, let not Satan tempt you as he removed your parents from Paradise, stripping them of their clothing1 to show them their private parts. Indeed, he sees you, he and his tribe, from where you do not see them. Indeed, We have made the devils allies to those who do not believe. )(7:27) ( And recite to them, [O Muḥammad], the news of him1 to whom We gave [knowledge of] Our signs, but he detached himself from them; so Satan pursued him, and he became of the deviators.)(7:175) ( And if an evil suggestion comes to you from Satan, then seek refuge in Allah. Indeed, He is Hearing and Knowing. )(7:200) ( Indeed, those who fear Allah - when an impulse touches them from Satan, they remember [Him] and at once they have insight. )(7:201)
I was about to begin the prayer, when a Franj threw himself upon me, seized me, and turned my face to the East, telling me That's how you pray! Usamah ibn Munqidh
I know anytime now in their digging foundations in the current Mecca they are going to run into the 300 live prophets, in prayer position, still alive & praying constantly. That's going to a shock to the system.
@Mkia Mokhiz Absolutely untrue. In the numerous archaeological digs that have been done in Mecca nothing has been found. The only thing found was a 12th Century Ottoman Fort, nothing else. Only a small amount of water that would support a few hundred people. Desalination plants are the only reason the number of people can live there now. Hundreds of prophets buried there & none found? How about the 300 praying prophets praying near the Kaaba? They are supposed to still be alive & praying to Allah. Why do you think the Saudis are cementing everything over? Getting rid of the evidence that Meccas is a very new city.
Mecca does not exist anywhere except in the imagination. 🤣🤣🤣 The person who imagines that Mecca is somewhere other than at its real location must be out of his mind or has to born on a different planet who has landed on earth fully drunk with travel sickness.
The speaker must quickly contact all the world's map makers to change their Maps and atlases, otherwtse there would be chaos among world tourists and Muslim pilgrims to Mecca
Eddie from “The Deen Show” was begging for money to build a mosque in an ad before your show. Glad to see CZcams’s algorithm got this so terribly wrong!
@@dimejiolatunji5232 Honestly Dr Jay Smith has been a blessing to me, for the past 5 years I've been watching him, his videos has open my eyes to many deciet of islam n their false prophet whom mislead many to eternal dermnation for denying Jesus Christ as Lord n Saviour of the world.
Interesting note, I watch a history series. In the video on the Han empire, they presented a map of the central and eastern Silk Road routes. I was struck by the prominence of Merv, which Thomas Alexander likes as the source of the Koran. I was curious to see how many maps were available via a Google search that showed the same pattern. Merv (or Mary) does show up, but what was even more interesting was that more maps did not show any trade routes going through Mecca but rather they show the sea route up to Egypt. I even checked out the Spice Routes and it was similar. Sound like researchers are starting to look at the actual history, so you should find more receptive ears for your message. I didn’t even exclude the term “Mecca”.
@@generaljg4373 The only thing sketchy is your thinking process. Ancient Greek was the scholarly language of the ancient world, and most educated individuals would know how to speak their native language plus Ancient Greek, and often Latin as well. We also do have fragments in Aramaic and some early Hebrew, in addition to the Ancient Greek. Unlike the quaternity of worship in islam - muhammad, a pagan building that is circumambulated in adoration & worship, a chunk of rock that is kissed to remove sins, plus allah - the Judeo-Christian faiths have only one God, YHVH, who manifests in three distinct persons. Likewise, man created in YHVH’s image is a triune creation of mind, body, and spirit in each individual mortal.
Your ignorance is on full display. The Old and New Testaments are two halves of the same book: the Old Testament records YHVH’s covenant with the Hebrew people under the law as given through Moses, that looks forward to the divine promise of Messiah; the New Testament is the fulfillment of the promise of Messiah in Yeshua ha’Mashiach, and of His new covenant with mankind under grace. Christianity = fulfilled Judaism. The Christian world includes Catholics, but has no pope nor statues - and any artworks are nothing more than celebrations and reminders of mighty YHVH’s steadfastness to man. We do not worship idols nor kiss all over a chunk of rock nor believe an inanimate object (like a rock) can remove sins, nor do we encircle pagan buildings or monuments in adoration and worship. You do that.
@@noorjahan1333 only one Quran but there many different bibles for all Christian sects and its proven to be currupted, christianity is silly with no historical evidence or an original book
Pahimulin. Greetings from the Philippines. I had an ex-Muslim classmate from Iran. Before our professor and other classmates, he declared,"when Mohammed was young, he married a rich widow who was much older than he was." Then at the top of his voice he screamed : "SUGAR MOMMY !"
@@zicozico6961 I have a copy. I have read it. It's full of evil and hate. It was compiled by perverts over centuries. Moe is a fictional character invented in 833 AD by a evil perv
@@zicozico6961 I have read the Qur'an. It is a satanic book attributed to a suicidal man (Muhammad). Sahih al-Bukhari 6982 I choose the perfect living Messiah, Jesus.
@@zicozico6961 I have read the Qur'an. It teaches an abomination before the Lord. Qur'an 2:230 vs Deuteronomy 24:1-4 It teaches the divorce of little girls Qur'an 65:4. It teaches teaches adultery Qur'an 4:24. Islam is a satanic cult of a pedophile. Sahih al-Bukhari 5133
Because uthman burnt the qurans and many companions of Muhammad were killed during the battle of badr who memorised the verses, so bukhari collected information from different parts of the world and that took a lot of time. There were actually more hadiths and they discarded the bad ones... I think 70000 hadiths altogether.
@@mohofpetra4956 common instinctive human behaviour of followers of a prophet/cult leader will have resulted in being convinced of he importance of that person, and the reaction to that is the urge to collect & preserve as much tangible "memorabilia" asap, not relying on "memorization". moreover, allegedly there were written (proto)qurans around from before uthman. then why at the same time there weren't any written hadiths if muhamad was recognized as "the greatest example for mankind"? so, the question of @ishtar lew still stands
@@mohofpetra4956 I do not see the logical connection between the burning of qur'ans, the deaths at the battle of Badr and the necessity to collect informations. Hadiths are, according to my knowledge, a totally distinct stuff than the one to be found in the Qur'an. The former is about Mohammad's life and the latter about the revelation he received.
@@didierfavre2356 there are many hadiths which are written to rectify the blunders by Muhammad and his scribes. For eg quran says Mary as sister of Aron and daughter of imran, which is the biggest blunder of all blunders, so in hadiths they tried to cover it up but in vain ☹️
Hi Brothers in Christ, great work! I recently came across a Muslim who asked me what about Imam Malik, and was criticizing you for not including him on the timeline, I showed him how even he is pretty late according to traditional dates for his birth and death (and also contains embarrassing info). Can you talk about him in one of your episodes, or if you have already, please let me know where :) Thank you. God bless!
Who'd have thought that the guy who claimed to have the truths superceding the revelations of books written 1000 years before his time and effectively retconning all of Judeo-Christendom would have inconsistencies in his story? XD As a son of Galicians from Spain I pride myself on Northern Spain resisting caliphate rule for so long. Santiago y cierra España!
I so want to thank Yasir Qadhi for giving us the image of the Muslim 'scholar' before the questions of his western colleagues' questions feeling like the emperor in the Children's story of the Emperor's New Clothes. I think that this was a truly inspired image that Dr Qadhi presented us with. The Muslim comes before the western scholars thinking that he is soooo finely dressed, he has such fiiiine arguments and what Muslims would always accept as irrefutable but before the questions of western scholars he finds that they have questions he just has no answers to. He recognises that, though his leaders before him have convinced him into believing he is sooo fiiinely dressed, he is in fact standing there, one hopes in his underwear. If not, he is exposed in his birthday suit for all to laugh at and ridicule. The sword of Islam has prevented this for many centuries. People in Muslim lands were under the rule of Muslim leaders whose authority and legitimacy was dependent on people being forced, by the threat of death to any apostate, to accept that, even though they saw the nakedness of their leaders, their leaders religious and political really were in place and backed by Allah himself. But now we have come to the age of the internet and Muslims from all over the world can learn from others all over the world who can see that it is all a fake tailor's con game. Now they can also pick up their smart phone and have access to not only the Quran to see the differences between the versions of Moses and the burning bush, or Satan not bowing to Adam etc and see almost side by side all the contradictions, but to all the tafsir that show how corrupt the events were behind little phrases like 'except those their right hands possess' really mean and can, at last, get to look at the collections of hadiths for themselves and see how many things their leaders have been hiding from them. then they see that all of Islam, the whole philosophy and legend is standing before the modern world in its underwear (they hope).
THIS I found on the internet and it DEBUNKS THE LIES AND RHETORIC OF JAY AND AL-FADI HERE IS A COPY AND PASTE from your bible study on Arabia. Take note that they ascribe many prophets in Arabia as well and even admit that Moses with the Exodus took his sheep to celebrate a festival to the LORD in Mecca. And I Quote from Bible Study Notes: The chief importance of the Hijaz arises from the fact that in it are situated the two holy cities of Mecca and Medina--the cradle and the grave of the Prophet. It is thus the religious center of the Islamic world. 2. Extinct Tribes: Of the extinct tribes the most familiar name is that of Amlak or Amlik (Amalek). By the Arabian genealogists he is variously described as a grandson of Shem and as a son of Ham. In Genesis 36:12 he is a son of Esau's son, Eliphaz, by Timna. They are said to be first met with in Chaldea, from which they were expelled on the rise of the Assyrian power under Nimrod. They migrated into Ar, occupying in turn the Bahrein, Oman, the Yemen, and finally the Hijaz, where they are said to have been the first settlers at Yathrib (Medina) and also to have occupied land round Mecca and Kheibar. In the time of Abraham they were expelled from Mecca on the arrival of two new tribes from the South, those of Jurhum and Katura (Genesis 25:1). Later, it is said, David, during the rebellion of Absalom, took up his quarters in Kheibar and ruled over the surrounding districts. According to another tradition Moses sent an expedition against the Amalekites in the Hijaz, on which occasion the Israelites, disobeying his orders, spared their king Arkam (compare Rekem, Numbers 31:8; Joshua @)--a reminiscence of the incident in the life of Saul (1 Samuel 15). In any case the Amalekites were supplanted in the northern Hijaz by Jewish tribes, who continued there until the time of Mohammad. North Arabian Tribes: Among the Arabs Ishmael holds the place occupied by Isaac in the Hebrew tradition. It was to the valley, afterward the site of the town of Mecca, that Abraham conducted Hagar and her son, and that Ishmael grew up and became the father of a great nation. The locality is full of spots connected by tradition with his life history, the ground where Hagar searched for water, the well Zemzem of which Gabriel showed her the place, the mount Thabir where Abraham would have sacrificed his son (Ishmael), and the graves of Hagar and Ishmael. The Jurhum, among whom Ishmael grew up, gave him seven goats: These were the capital with which he began life. He married a woman of Jurhum. He had twelve sons (Genesis 25:16) of whom Kaidar and Nabat are the best known, perhaps the Cedrei and Nabataei of Pliny; other sons were Dumah and Tema (which see). The subsequent history of the Ishmaelites is lost for several generations until we come to `Adnan, who is said to have been defeated by Nebuchadnezzar, when the latter invaded Arabia. All the Ishmaelite tribes are descended from `Adnan. They are the north Arabian tribes, as opposed to the Kahtanite or south Arabian. One of them, Koreish, under their chief, Kosay, became master of Mecca, driving out Koda`a. Later, as the tribe of the Prophet, they became the rulers of Arabia and the aristocracy of the Muslim empire; and the descendants of Mohammad remain to this day the only hierarchy known to Islam. 7. Foreign Elements: In Arabia there was and still, in spite of religious disabilities, is a large Jewish population. Before the age of Mohammad they lived chiefly in the Northwest, the two best known tribes--An-Nadir and Koreiza--occupying Yathrib (Medina). After the rise of Islam they were expelled from Arabia; but at the present time there are probably some 60,000 Jews in the Yemen alone 2. The Ka`ba, Pilgrimages and Fairs: Though there were many houses of God in the country, the chief religious resort even before the time of Mohammad was Mecca. The House of God (see BETHEL) here was called the Ka`ba, which is the English word "cube," the building being so called from its shape. It was believed to have been built by Abraham and Ishmael. The honor of acting as guardians of the House was a subject of rivalry among the tribes. The office was held consecutively by the tribes of Jurhum, Koda`a and Koreish, and last by the grandfather and uncles of Mohammad. These, therefore, correspond to the tribe of Levi in Israel. It is said to have contained a large number of images, but it is remarkable that the nearer our authorities get to the time of Mohammad the smaller is the number of images mentioned. The chief of these, Hubal, is not named in the Koran. The worship took the form of circumambulation (tawaf), running or marching round the sanctuary (compare Psalms 26:6). An annual visitation was and still is made by those living at a distance, and sacrifices are offered. This is the hajj or pilgrimage; the same name is used for the corresponding rite among the Hebrews (Exodus 10:9 and often). These religious assemblies were combined with fairs, at which markets were held and a considerable trade carried on. Before the time of Mohammad the great annual fair was held at Okaz, a place still pointed out about three days' journey East of Mecca and one day West of Taif. Here were not only all kinds of commercial transactions carried on--auctions, sales, settling of accounts and payment of blood-wit, but an academy was held at which poets recited their odes, and received judgment upon their merits. These fairs were generally held in the sacred months, that is, the first, seventh, eleventh and twelfth months, in which fighting was forbidden. They had therefore a great civilizing and pacifying influence. Ref BIBLE STUDY NOTES
Hi Al Fad et al, would you consider a series on Jesus is not Isa? Because my in my search and discussion with muslims I cannot find Jesus anywhere in the Koran and hadith. Isa seems to be a different character with different mother, birthplace and life. Thats fo your great work. May God bless you!
just an observation. when i started watching videos debunking Islam about 8 years ago i would see many muslims responding with "lols" but now i dont see muslims responding. Could it be that they are embarrassed or that they have left Islam.
You have been watching videos debunking islam for 8 years!? Why do you keep watching them, what interests you? Maybe they don’t respond anymore because they are tired of senseless arguments that will get them nowhere, and the biased hate they get from ignorant people.
@@ahmed4397 i doubt that Ahmed, i believe it is bc many of them have stopped believing or bc they can no longer tolerate seeing videos that destroy their ideology like the ones that al fadi is producing. Are you a believer? If you are then here is a question i ask all muslims. ). Please show me where Gog and Magog are located. The Koran has given you some hints. It states that they are trapped between two mountains behind a wall made of iron and lead (18:94-97 Yusif Ali translation). Show me where it is on Google earth and i will forget about all the other nonsensical and immoral aspects of Islam and i will say the shahada. That will be a nice feather in your cap for converting such an infidel! But if you cannot find where they are located then will you leave Islam?
Moslems see no point arguing. Whatever float your boats at this point. Some ppl so threaten by Islam they have to make these videos to convince themselves. It’s very entertaining actually. We already have clear guidance straight from God. That’s all we need.
@@nunya54 Not an argument! This is something that someone writes when they are desperate without any other way to attack. Please give proof from the 7th century or before that Mecca existed. There is so many ways to prove that other cities existed in the 7th century or even much earlier. Cities like Petra and Jerusalem. Go ahead, i'm waiting!
Isn't that narrative based on sunni traditions? Does the Shia traditions differ somewhat? There's also a muslim ad before your video started asking for donations to help fight islamophobia. I thought that was humorous.
@@nathanjohnwade2289 the trinity is a pagan doctrine in christianity people believe in 3 Gods, muslims and Jews believe in one God, Christians cunfused by the holly ghost
@@generaljg4373 We're not the ones that are confused and paganism had ABSOLUTELY NO influence over Christianity. And how do you know that paganism came up with their so called "trinity" first? Also, Judaism has had schools thought that the Old Testament shows multiple personages of YHWH. As for Islam, they commit shirk by ascribing "salvation" through Muhammed. They also commit shirk by stating that the Qur'an is eternal and uncreated. Also, in Muslim traditions, each chapter of the Qur'an will appear separately at the "Day of Reconpence". Sam Shamounian has plenty of videos proving Christ and debunking HERETICS & BLASPHIMERS like you. If you're not a coward, contact him.
The prophet lived in bahrah.mekke valley is the valley of fatimah. In another verse, it is said that you were at the bottom of the valley, the enemy was at the top of the valley, and the caravan was at the bottom of the valley. This valley is the valley of Fatimah. .and the verses about the qibla show that the prophet is in bahrah. because for prayer you turn east and the kaaba is east of bahrah
Powerful series ... to celebrate the false SIN of 2022 Ramadan ... ironically. When critically questioned and examined ... everything is a lie ... including the holiest birth place of this cult that is so deceitful and devious ... to maintain its grip and hold over gullible minds and innocent hearts. May this very destructive and corrosive hold be broken ... for many and may they be brought to the light and liberty of the true gospel.
From the perspective of the emanated created realms, Creation takes place "Yesh me-Ayin" ("Something from Nothing"). From the Divine perspective, Creation takes place "Ayin me-Yesh" ("Nothing from Something"), as only God has absolute existence; Creation is dependent on the continuous flow of Divine lifeforce, without which it would revert to nothingness. Since the 13th century, Ayin has been one of the most important words used in kabbalistic texts. The symbolism associated with the word Ayin was greatly emphasized by Moses de León (c. 1250 - 1305), a Spanish rabbi and kabbalist, through the Zohar, the foundational work of Kabbalah. In Hasidism Ayin relates to the internal psychological experience of Deveikut ("cleaving" to God amidst physicality), and the contemplative perception of paradoxical Yesh-Ayin Divine Panentheism, "There is no place empty of Him".
Theory of qibla in Petra is totally absurd... Thousand year ago, we already have trader, sailor, astronomer, traveler, navigator, algebra and so on. It's impossible to replace one mountain to another even back then... How they travel to southeast Asian then get back to their homeland, or travel by silk road from China to Italy and then going back if they do not master the navigation. It's impossible they do not recognize their family, their homeland. What the heck is going on? 🤣🤣 Please mind your own religion, talk about yours only, otherwise we know you afraid of something. Wait what? Why afraid if your religion is true right?
10:06 mahomet died from poisoning by a jewish women who's husband & family just had been slaughtered by mahomet & his gang, then where is his grave? and what about that story of him sitting on the flying donkey that landed at the dome of the rock?
I thought it was a cow, a flying cow. If my memory is correct, that cow had a human face. In any case, this story is nonsensical, hard to believe for that reason.
The clocktower got 7 towers, there is a door in mecca called bab illah, the beast in islam is the opposite of the one in the bible. 666 nautical miles from Jerusalem to Mecca
Dr. Smith many believe Ur of the Chaldees. is actually the city of Ur-kesh is on the border between Syria and Turkey. See the work of Dr. David Falk, egyptologist.
You should do a show on Shipwreck off Israeli coasts which shows Christian symbols & Allah but no Muhammad. The name of the article is "Shipwreck off Israeli coast changes what we know about the early Islamic period - Archaeology"
I am not muslim but i follow you I am eager what I will you tell about mecca in next video you should here how they talk about their religion how did they keep Allah the name of their God
I have not come across any m0slem scholars that can do a presentation of similar caliber like this one. I saw ShabirAli refutation was merely sitting on his chair babbling.
The many different conceptions of God, and competing claims as to God's characteristics, aims, and actions, have led to the development of ideas of omnitheism, pandeism, or a perennial philosophy, which postulates that there is one underlying theological truth, of which all religions express a partial understanding, and as to which: "The devout in the various great world religions are in fact worshipping that one God, but through different, overlapping concepts or mental images of Him."
Dear Muslims, the Quran is clear revelation and explains everything in detail. But you need tafseer, sunnah/ahadith and commentaries on the ahadith. And they all contradict each other. WAKE UP
I just read about a man named Muhammad Sven kalisch. A convert to islam and a theologian and professor at a German university who tried to do a deep dive into Islamic history and discovered that Muhammad never existed. He subsequently renounced islam in 2010.
I hated Muhammad until I studied and saw for myself he didn't exist.
Now I laugh at the ghosts of imagination.
Blessed Truth.
I’m always amazed at anyone intelligent/educated who buys into such obvious fraud. At least the man had the good sense to investigate and got himself out.
Wait, what? Source please.
The Internet.
@Mysotiras 010 Thank you, that makes it much clearer; I’d never heard of Kalisch before this comment. You are very kind. God bless!
The whole idea that Abraham helped build the Kaaba in Mecca, a city that didn't exist until thousands of years after his death, that's about as believable as the sun leaving our solar system at night to the throne of Allah and getting permission to rise again in the east before setting in a pool of muddy waters. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly. Islam is none-sense their teaching, is to marry as many as they could. Muslims is all about for sex!
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@@dimejiolatunji5232 Or as likely as Allah using stars to shoot devils to stop them from eavesdropping on heaven.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly! And since the area that would much, much later become Mecca was about a 1,000-mile journey from Hebron, ancient maps show us the infrastructure of ancient cities and wells didn’t even exist that would have made the journey possible.
god knows me
islam is true islam is true islam is true
corruption of the old testament and the many type of torah
the masoratic text the original hebrew
the septuagint corruption the many stream of translation we dont know where many of them but just some survived translation
the samaritan torah only 5 book of moses
these three are disagree with each other in many places
quran have no interpolation unlike bible that come in transmission period
return to original text is the very purpose of bible textual criticism which indicate a problem in the journey
its make sense to god resend a new book and then preserve it for real unlike bible and for the whole world bcz the book is preserve to end time
genesis 5:31
septuagint said 753 years for lamech
masoratic said 777 years for lamech
samaritan said 653 years for lamech
Transmission break #1 - Sometime between Moses (approx. 1300 BCE) and King Josiah (approx. 600 BCE)
Transmission break #2 - Sometime between King Josiah (approx. 600 BCE) and Ezra (approx. 400 BCE)
And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.” [Hebrews 1:6]
The above quotation is made by Paul in the New Testament and is citing Deuteronomy 32:43. masoratic doesnt have taht
if bible need a repair and correct the mistake after hundred of years to make the mistake disappears thats mean its not perfectly preserved and not aided by divine also not understandable by regular mental power
so many copyist error that make into the text
the bible is obviously intend to be preserved and unchanhed and whomever add or substract will get punished but instead what we get is interpolation and lost of the original word and many variation that get inside it for centuries until scholars repair amd work for it until now they even got divided variant amd corruption of translation
jew adding n substracting from their own book, christian adding n substacting from their own book, only muslim dont, they dont have post interpolation after uthman or hereditary mistake
the christian believe is poeple just see god yahweh as jesus
but no one see god and live
in error means you fail for what you claim
matthew and luke jesus begot in womb not preexist that only in john
in 385 ad people still undecided whether holy spirit is god
diciple didnt understand crucified messiah
and jew didnt expect crucified messiah
there were blindspot
it can be said that the crucifixed messiah is made up and jesus is a prophet like quran said
the early follower want to obey the law
paul split the shema
ebionites like a muslim
jesus is just a prophet for ebionites and early people
septuagint translate man in exodus to be 600.000 in numbers whiches being denied by scholars that men in exodus cannot be taht much or even surpass the 100.000
research been done taht the calculation of census and taxes taht paid by israelite indicate that there were 600.000 not 600 clan and people taht much with much pot jar amd armor should left behind something probably even bones
the septuagint missed passage some of jeremiah compare to dead sea scroll though masoratic have it
many evangelical and scholars agree innerancy only apply to the original
septuagint also have cainan as arphaxad child which not found in earlier manuscript and best manuscript taht used by church father and josephus and early lxx its not there before 220 ad cited by christian web not in codex bizae not even luke early times have cainan
people from the past can be have different copies of bible taht have different contain inside of them so its not always the same bible
textus receptus included 1 john 5 7 trinity verse and in latin vulgate for longtime
earliest christian believe jesus exalted not incarnate and subordinate
72 14 citation luke 10
70 32 citation luke 10
modern bible trans 9 72
6 72
they even changed and revised the old
testament book of god and its revised from previous problem thats mean its contained problems and its changed they reject the septuagint today reject the masoratic today and have disagreements and make an eclactic reading why would there are variants reading to choose after all, obviously that went into our modern bible is false variant reading afterall so they correct it
the double entendre in jesus conversation with nicodemus doesn’t exist in aramaic also not in hebrew john is liar many lie
32:8 and 32:43. Even though we are comparing the same chapter of Deuteronomy, the texts never completely agree in all verses. Sometimes the DSS agree with the MT over the LXX, as in verse 32:43[ii], and sometimes the DSS agree with the LXX over the MT, as in verse 32:8[iii].
Genesis 16:16, Abraham was 86 years old when Ishmael was born:
Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael.
And according to Genesis 21:5, Abraham was one hundred years old when Isaac was born:
Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him.
just talking about text differences not talking about the
inconsistency
factual error
and ethical error in OT and NT
from 27 translation 14 : 70 diciple
13 : 72 diciple
majority of quran qiraat differences is dialectical its normal and how it supposed to be
christian said the personality and characteristic of god can be seen in the bible but why its contradict its own saying like the bible is confusing while paul said god is not the author of confusion , and god repented and feel sorry or even genocide
why god allow interpolation to get inside the bible for centuries why not god cut it like quran which dont have hereditary error
no two manuscript of nt is the same
rasm uthman is so stable and no mistake is hereditary
there are word differ but non uthmanic and isolated but still mention the companion reading tradition not hereditary mistake
ten canonical reading more or less conform uthmanic reading
ten qiraat is dialectical differences
uthman is absolutly the architype text and carbon dating point out so
you can even reconstruct the stemma that all quran we have today back to that 4 uthman codex
shady nasser said oral transmission also soo good
Interpolations in the Bible - IS the Bible God's Word?
bible interpolation
czcams.com/video/9SCECRhQHW0/video.html
quranic preservation
muslimprophets.com/article.php?aid=37
how can patriavh commit sin?
www.jesus-resurrection.info/bible-prophets.html patraich commit sin?
unpleasant.ffrf.org/
genocide
www.layittoheart.com/septuagint.html
septuagint problem
sites.google.com/site/errorsinthebible/dss-lxx-vs-mt bible error
skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/topics/about.html
contradiction
www.lyingforjesus.org/Bible-Contradictions/
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bible_interpolation
interpolation
sites.google.com/site/isthebiblegodsword/interpolations-in-the-bible/interpolations-in-the-bible
lost verse or different version in old testament taht didnt exist while being quoted by prophet or apostle
actually in order islam to be true that jesus is islam prophet is not necesserally jesus prophecied about islam or muhammad or probably he was we didnt know but the fact that if jesus actually only a prophet of end time taht command to obey torah law and only send to israel that alone is very inline with islamic messenge that jesus is israelite only prophet not this worldwide religion but only for israel and a prophet that said they need to obey torah and probably circumcision also with prohibited food, muhammad is the one that for universal world and quran as you see quran is preserve in recitation n text which more stable and no hereditary mistake also no interpolation , does this tell you something? because torah is corrupted you can see how ot god comman killing grey haired man child baby pregnant woman animal amd many patriach commiting ugly sin like adultery idolatary and incest its absolutly corrupt jew christian and islam is one line of god so if this two previous religion before islam is corrupt while this prophet are exist we can turn to islam
for centuries interpolation inside the bible why god let interpolation inherited? im not make this up scholars said quran dont have hereditary mistake from scribes because sometimes people typos but its not hereditary amd no interpolation why taht happen with bible ? is it coincidence? that quran can be memorize as awhole book amd then have fixed and stable text and have no interpolation amd have no hereditary error, have no contradiction ,have more historical accuracy and more ethical, and scholars said jesus is prophet how far this coincidence could be? the bible depict prophet as sinner doing adultery , drunk, idolatry incest, and genocide command in bible that killed grey haired man infant pregnant woman and animal, and dead sea scroll scribes also ascribe themsels an authority to chnage text as they wish and jew corrupting masoratic text and septuagint that have many variant and disagreement also lacking of verses, it cant be coincidence thatvits happen i think quran is right its easy for god to revealed a new book because he can do all thing also preserving the book
rev 22:18
I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto them, God shall add unto him the plagues which are written in this book:
rev 22:19
And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.
but the proof is there are interpolation throughout the time until scholars take away the fake verse
Mecca lunar idol cult
Islam is collapsing under the shining light of truth and righteous ridicule.
I invite you to read the Quran
@@zicozico6961 I have read the Quran and glad I did. It strengthened up my relationship with Jesus
@@jamesbaker2532 Give me an example of what you mean
The Qur’an considers Jesus ,peace be upon him , as one of the most 5 greatest prophets who God sent
What do you think of that ?
@@zicozico6961 no offense intended. But I think the Quran is man made book. There is no evidence to back it up. It teaches hate. Jesus even though he gave a few prophesies was only prophet but the son of God who came down from heaven to o give his body as a sacrifice for our sins. So you, me and everyone else can go to heaven. God proved this by raising him from the dead. He proved it by hundreds of fulfilled prophecy throughout the ages. It teaches to love even your enemies while the Quran teaches to hate your enemies. Christianity is not a man made religion. It's just the true and only religion. It is not structured to get followers. Lol. It's says you can't do the things you want to. To love your enemy, tp not have a love for money etc. Quran said you get virgins when you die. That's an example of a man made religion thank you
@@zicozico6961 What's the point of reading the Quran if you don't understand what you read.
I'm Italian, actually is being worked on a Rome’s new subway line, treasure trove of thousands of artifacts, including a Roman military barracks and an ancient home with more than a dozen rooms featuring frescoes, mosaic floors, and other decorations that and are nearly intact.
But no artifacts are dug up in Mecca with all the giant constructions going on in the City.
@@nwachinemere7759 indeed
Mecca: The oldest and most important city in the world that didn't exist before the 7th century AD. :)
9th century
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THIS DEBUNKS ALL THE LIES AND RHETORIC OF JAY.
HERE IS A COPY AND PASTE from your bible study on Arabia.
Take note that they ascribe many prophets in Arabia as well and even admit that Moses with the Exodus took his sheep to celebrate a festival to the LORD in Mecca.
And I Quote from Bible Study Notes.
The chief importance of the Hijaz arises from the fact that in it are situated the two holy cities of Mecca and Medina--the cradle and the grave of the Prophet. It is thus the religious center of the Islamic world.
2. Extinct Tribes:
Of the extinct tribes the most familiar name is that of Amlak or Amlik (Amalek). By the Arabian genealogists he is variously described as a grandson of Shem and as a son of Ham. In Genesis 36:12 he is a son of Esau's son, Eliphaz, by Timna. They are said to be first met with in Chaldea, from which they were expelled on the rise of the Assyrian power under Nimrod. They migrated into Ar, occupying in turn the Bahrein, Oman, the Yemen, and finally the Hijaz, where they are said to have been the first settlers at Yathrib (Medina) and also to have occupied land round Mecca and Kheibar.
In the time of Abraham they were expelled from Mecca on the arrival of two new tribes from the South, those of Jurhum and Katura (Genesis 25:1). Later, it is said, David, during the rebellion of Absalom, took up his quarters in Kheibar and ruled over the surrounding districts.
According to another tradition Moses sent an expedition against the Amalekites in the Hijaz, on which occasion the Israelites, disobeying his orders, spared their king Arkam (compare Rekem, Numbers 31:8; Joshua @)--a reminiscence of the incident in the life of Saul (1 Samuel 15). In any case the Amalekites were supplanted in the northern Hijaz by Jewish tribes, who continued there until the time of Mohammad.
North Arabian Tribes:
Among the Arabs Ishmael holds the place occupied by Isaac in the Hebrew tradition. It was to the valley, afterward the site of the town of Mecca, that Abraham conducted Hagar and her son, and that Ishmael grew up and became the father of a great nation. The locality is full of spots connected by tradition with his life history, the ground where Hagar searched for water, the well Zemzem of which Gabriel showed her the place, the mount Thabir where Abraham would have sacrificed his son (Ishmael), and the graves of Hagar and Ishmael. The Jurhum, among whom Ishmael grew up, gave him seven goats:
These were the capital with which he began life. He married a woman of Jurhum. He had twelve sons (Genesis 25:16) of whom Kaidar and Nabat are the best known, perhaps the Cedrei and Nabataei of Pliny; other sons were Dumah and Tema (which see). The subsequent history of the Ishmaelites is lost for several generations until we come to `Adnan, who is said to have been defeated by Nebuchadnezzar, when the latter invaded Arabia. All the Ishmaelite tribes are descended from `Adnan. They are the north Arabian tribes, as opposed to the Kahtanite or south Arabian. One of them, Koreish, under their chief, Kosay, became master of Mecca, driving out Koda`a. Later, as the tribe of the Prophet, they became the rulers of Arabia and the aristocracy of the Muslim empire; and the descendants of Mohammad remain to this day the only hierarchy known to Islam.
7. Foreign Elements:
In Arabia there was and still, in spite of religious disabilities, is a large Jewish population. Before the age of Mohammad they lived chiefly in the Northwest, the two best known tribes--An-Nadir and Koreiza--occupying Yathrib (Medina). After the rise of Islam they were expelled from Arabia; but at the present time there are probably some 60,000 Jews in the Yemen alone
2. The Ka`ba, Pilgrimages and Fairs:
Though there were many houses of God in the country, the chief religious resort even before the time of Mohammad was Mecca. The House of God (see BETHEL) here was called the Ka`ba, which is the English word "cube," the building being so called from its shape. It was believed to have been built by Abraham and Ishmael. The honor of acting as guardians of the House was a subject of rivalry among the tribes. The office was held consecutively by the tribes of Jurhum, Koda`a and Koreish, and last by the grandfather and uncles of Mohammad. These, therefore, correspond to the tribe of Levi in Israel. It is said to have contained a large number of images, but it is remarkable that the nearer our authorities get to the time of Mohammad the smaller is the number of images mentioned.
The chief of these, Hubal, is not named in the Koran. The worship took the form of circumambulation (tawaf), running or marching round the sanctuary (compare Psalms 26:6). An annual visitation was and still is made by those living at a distance, and sacrifices are offered.
This is the hajj or pilgrimage; the same name is used for the corresponding rite among the Hebrews (Exodus 10:9 and often). These religious assemblies were combined with fairs, at which markets were held and a considerable trade carried on. Before the time of Mohammad the great annual fair was held at Okaz, a place still pointed out about three days' journey East of Mecca and one day West of Taif. Here were not only all kinds of commercial transactions carried on--auctions, sales, settling of accounts and payment of blood-wit, but an academy was held at which poets recited their odes, and received judgment upon their merits. These fairs were generally held in the sacred months, that is, the first, seventh, eleventh and twelfth months, in which fighting was forbidden. They had therefore a great civilizing and pacifying influence.
Ref www.biblestudytools.com/encyclopedias/isbe/arabia.html
No sewers.. no dump heaps... no city mayors.. no water lines.. no graves.. no stones... nothing
Therfore no evidence of origin of Islam
Allah made them disappear 😂😂😂
When the people will accept to know the truth the truth will set them free and not only free but free indeed 🙏♥️
🌿🌻 Its a shame that for centuries they believed in a lie. You are doing a great job in enlightening future generations. 👍👍👍
To be fair both Christianity and Islam are failed religions. Christianity needed Islam to push it out West so it could colonize the Americas and then conquer Africa to bring Humanity only to fail as these lands became independent and fought one another, while Europe remained contentious of constantly fighting itself no matter what faith was preached. This is why Christianity is a failure. However, Christianity is the intended world religion and so it must reform in some way to complete its purpose otherwise the purpose will not be achieved and if it is not achieved, humanity will not unite.
If humanity does not unite, humanity will never become a tier 1 civilization and if such happens humanity will die out as is the Great Filter we are in. We are in the Great Filter, the mechanism responsible for decreasing the possibility of emerging Spacefaring Civilizations. We are in that and the only way to get through it is through unification. We know this. We all know this. But some of us have our heads up our butts about it.
"But we need an "US" vs Them."
Okay, can the "US" be call of "US" and can the "Them" be our deaths? At least then we would be fighting against extermination and against unfair treatment for something we should all support, right?
"But it just wouldn't work."
That is not an answer or a rebutal.
"There is nothing out there."
We have found Galactic Government structures on our moon. Bull F'ing S word. They are active and have people (if you want to call extraterrestrials, people in them). There are cities we have even found on the moon. They are watching us to see if we will be smart enough to realize all of this and just unite, do something that is really simple and stop bitching about it or we'll succumb to our fate for so ridiculous and stupid.
This is an amazing series. Thanks for the update. God bless both of you and your teams.
They will be together in hell. 100% . Unless they repent to God
Christianity is false religion with no historical evidence, its just based on worshiping a human on a cross
interesting series so far, I'm watching the playlist and I look forward to the next part. 😎👍
Hey Brother Al Fadi love your work👍🏻
just a suggestion how about you and Jay do a monthly live stream updating us all of both your researches such as the Sana Manuscript or more Aramaic Origins etc as i feel videos are a bit short so live streams on a broad overview would be great! Nevertheless your work is Great God bless
@@zicozico6961and it proves what? that a demon possessed man (sahih bukhari 6391)
(Tafsir al Jalalyn 22:52) knows science?
@@footballenthusiast9058 These are some verses of the Qur'an about Satan
Can you try to tell me how to believe your claim that the Qur’an is from Satan and there are these verses in the Qur’an?
( O mankind, eat from whatever is on earth [that is] lawful and good and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. )(2:168)
( O you who have believed, enter into Islām completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. )(2:208)
(Satan threatens you with poverty and orders you to immorality, while Allah promises you forgiveness from Him and bounty. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing. )(2:268)
( But when she delivered her, she said, "My Lord, I have delivered a female." And Allah was most knowing of what she delivered, and the male is not like the female. "And I have named her Mary, and I seek refuge for her in You and [for] her descendants from Satan, the expelled [from the mercy of Allah)(3:36)
(Indeed, those of you who turned back on the day the two armies met [at Uḥud] - it was Satan who caused them to slip because of some [blame] they had earned. But Allah has already forgiven them. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing. )(3:155)
( That is only Satan who frightens [you] of his supporters. So fear them not, but fear Me, if you are [indeed] believers. )(3:175)
( And [also] those who spend of their wealth to be seen by the people and believe not in Allah nor in the Last Day. And he to whom Satan is a companion - then evil is he as a companion. )(4:38)
(Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, [O Muḥammad], and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to ṭāghūt,1 while they were commanded to reject it; and Satan wishes to lead them far astray. )(4:60)
( Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of ṭāghūt.1 So fight against the allies of Satan. Indeed, the plot of Satan has ever been weak. )(4:76)
(And when there comes to them something [i.e., information] about [public] security or fear, they spread it around. But if they had referred it back to the Messenger or to those of authority among them, then the ones who [can] draw correct conclusions from it would have known about it. And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy, you would have followed Satan, except for a few. )(4:83)
( And I will mislead them, and I will arouse in them [sinful] desires, and I will command them so they will slit the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will change the creation of Allah." And whoever takes Satan as an ally instead of Allah has certainly sustained a clear loss. )(4:119)
( He [i.e., Satan] promises them and arouses desire in them. But Satan does not promise them except delusion. )(4:120)
( O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants, gambling, [sacrificing on] stone altars [to other than Allah], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid1 it that you may be successful. )(5:90)
( Satan only wants to cause between you animosity and hatred through intoxicants and gambling and to avert you from the remembrance of Allah and from prayer. So will you not desist? )(5:91)
( Then why, when Our punishment came to them, did they not humble themselves? But their hearts became hardened, and Satan made attractive to them that which they were doing. )(6:43)
( And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse1 concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people. )(6:68)
( And of the grazing livestock are carriers [of burdens] and those [too] small. Eat of what Allah has provided for you and do not follow the footsteps of Satan.1 Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. )(6:142)
( But Satan whispered to them to make apparent to them that which was concealed from them of their private parts. He said, "Your Lord did not forbid you this tree except that you become angels or become of the immortal." )(7:20)
( So he made them fall, through deception. And when they tasted of the tree, their private parts became apparent to them, and they began to fasten together over themselves from the leaves of Paradise. And their Lord called to them, "Did I not forbid you from that tree and tell you that Satan is to you a clear enemy?" )(7:22)
( O children of Adam, let not Satan tempt you as he removed your parents from Paradise, stripping them of their clothing1 to show them their private parts. Indeed, he sees you, he and his tribe, from where you do not see them. Indeed, We have made the devils allies to those who do not believe. )(7:27)
( And recite to them, [O Muḥammad], the news of him1 to whom We gave [knowledge of] Our signs, but he detached himself from them; so Satan pursued him, and he became of the deviators.)(7:175)
( And if an evil suggestion comes to you from Satan, then seek refuge in Allah. Indeed, He is Hearing and Knowing. )(7:200)
( Indeed, those who fear Allah - when an impulse touches them from Satan, they remember [Him] and at once they have insight. )(7:201)
@zico zico regardless of how desperate you are you can't deny that you're prophet was demon possessed(Tafseer al jalalyn 22:52) (Bukhari 3175)
I was about to begin the prayer,
when a Franj threw himself upon me,
seized me, and turned
my face
to the East, telling me
That's how you pray!
Usamah ibn Munqidh
I know anytime now in their digging foundations in the current Mecca they are going to run into the 300 live prophets, in prayer position, still alive & praying constantly. That's going to a shock to the system.
Alhamdulillah
😂😂😂
Well, this is a killer. Now we know that Mecca was actually in Southern Turkey. "I hate it when that happens."
@Mkia Mokhiz Different theories as to it's original location. One thing is clear it did not exist prior to the 12th Century.
@Mkia Mokhiz Absolutely untrue. In the numerous archaeological digs that have been done in Mecca nothing has been found. The only thing found was a 12th Century Ottoman Fort, nothing else. Only a small amount of water that would support a few hundred people. Desalination plants are the only reason the number of people can live there now. Hundreds of prophets buried there & none found? How about the 300 praying prophets praying near the Kaaba? They are supposed to still be alive & praying to Allah. Why do you think the Saudis are cementing everything over? Getting rid of the evidence that Meccas is a very new city.
Mecca does not exist anywhere except in the imagination. 🤣🤣🤣 The person who imagines that Mecca is somewhere other than at its real location must be out of his mind or has to born on a different planet who has landed on earth fully drunk with travel sickness.
@@khalilbonjol8711 I think I saw it in Narnia.
The speaker must quickly contact all the world's map makers to change their Maps and atlases, otherwtse there would be chaos among world tourists and Muslim pilgrims to Mecca
A missing findings thanks to brother Alfadi and Dr Jay
Islam is built on an endless sinkhole.
No wonder Islam is sinking, & fast too.
Al Fadi&Jay you are doing favor for humanity by revealing the lies believed/spread for centuries!🙏God bless you!
In christianity people believe in 3 Gods and mary gave birth to God, christianity is false religion for sure
@@generaljg4373 we believe in one God! and Mary gave birth to Jesus, a son of man
@@precious734 no in christianity people believe in 3 Gods
@@generaljg4373 you are not the smartest one are you...
@@generaljg4373 You just committed shirk.
Eddie from “The Deen Show” was begging for money to build a mosque in an ad before your show. Glad to see CZcams’s algorithm got this so terribly wrong!
It’s intentional. I only see the mosque ads on Christian channels, and never on any other channels.
Click on it. MAKE THEM PAY.
@@annemurphy9339 wrong again, Anne.
I do enjoy your new episode and always find them very interesting.
Very solid series. Mel from Sneaker's Corner.
So informative n eye opener GBU both One love from Nigeria 🇳🇬👍 continue to debunk the standard Islamic Narative
Yes brother, One Love from us in Nigeria to these our two brothers.
@@dimejiolatunji5232 Honestly Dr Jay Smith has been a blessing to me, for the past 5 years I've been watching him, his videos has open my eyes to many deciet of islam n their false prophet whom mislead many to eternal dermnation for denying Jesus Christ as Lord n Saviour of the world.
Interesting note, I watch a history series. In the video on the Han empire, they presented a map of the central and eastern Silk Road routes. I was struck by the prominence of Merv, which Thomas Alexander likes as the source of the Koran. I was curious to see how many maps were available via a Google search that showed the same pattern.
Merv (or Mary) does show up, but what was even more interesting was that more maps did not show any trade routes going through Mecca but rather they show the sea route up to Egypt. I even checked out the Spice Routes and it was similar. Sound like researchers are starting to look at the actual history, so you should find more receptive ears for your message. I didn’t even exclude the term “Mecca”.
The christian standard narrative is sketchy The original gospel in aramaic is still not found and in christianity people believe in 3 Gods
@@generaljg4373 The only thing sketchy is your thinking process. Ancient Greek was the scholarly language of the ancient world, and most educated individuals would know how to speak their native language plus Ancient Greek, and often Latin as well. We also do have fragments in Aramaic and some early Hebrew, in addition to the Ancient Greek. Unlike the quaternity of worship in islam - muhammad, a pagan building that is circumambulated in adoration & worship, a chunk of rock that is kissed to remove sins, plus allah - the Judeo-Christian faiths have only one God, YHVH, who manifests in three distinct persons. Likewise, man created in YHVH’s image is a triune creation of mind, body, and spirit in each individual mortal.
@@annemurphy9339 Judaism got nothing to do with christianity, Christian's believe in 3 gods its paganism and they bowdown to the Pope and the statues
Your ignorance is on full display. The Old and New Testaments are two halves of the same book: the Old Testament records YHVH’s covenant with the Hebrew people under the law as given through Moses, that looks forward to the divine promise of Messiah; the New Testament is the fulfillment of the promise of Messiah in Yeshua ha’Mashiach, and of His new covenant with mankind under grace. Christianity = fulfilled Judaism. The Christian world includes Catholics, but has no pope nor statues - and any artworks are nothing more than celebrations and reminders of mighty YHVH’s steadfastness to man. We do not worship idols nor kiss all over a chunk of rock nor believe an inanimate object (like a rock) can remove sins, nor do we encircle pagan buildings or monuments in adoration and worship. You do that.
@@annemurphy9339 you seem triggered lol
Shalom. God bless you Al Fadi, thank you for your time, teachings and truly hope you're feeling better. 🙏
The christian standard narrative is sketchy theres many different bibles and the trinity is influenced by the sun God mithra
@@generaljg4373 Written by men.
@@generaljg4373 which version of quran do u use as there are more than 30 versions.
@@noorjahan1333 only one Quran but there many different bibles for all Christian sects and its proven to be currupted, christianity is silly with no historical evidence or an original book
@general jg abdool angry your getting busted now ha!😂🤣
Pahimulin. Greetings from the Philippines. I had an ex-Muslim classmate from Iran. Before our professor and other classmates, he declared,"when Mohammed was young, he married a rich widow who was much older than he was." Then at the top of his voice he screamed : "SUGAR MOMMY !"
Excellent discussions,thank you for sharing this extremely vital information for debunking the Muhammad myth
Thanks Alfadi and Jay GOD BLESS YOU BOTH ABUNDANTLY 🙏 🙌 ❤
Ancient boundaries used stone moments. Where are the ones for those ancient "empires". They exist for other empires but none for islam
I invite you to read the Quran
@@zicozico6961 I have a copy. I have read it. It's full of evil and hate. It was compiled by perverts over centuries. Moe is a fictional character invented in 833 AD by a evil perv
Love your ministry brother Al fadi.
I smell an avalanche.
Admirable voices from both of these men, don't you think?
I invite you to read the Quran
@@zicozico6961 I have read the Qur'an.
It is a satanic book attributed to a suicidal man (Muhammad). Sahih al-Bukhari 6982
I choose the perfect living Messiah, Jesus.
I invite you to read the Quran
@@zicozico6961 I have read the Qur'an. It teaches an abomination before the Lord.
Qur'an 2:230
vs
Deuteronomy 24:1-4
It teaches the divorce of little girls Qur'an 65:4.
It teaches teaches adultery Qur'an 4:24.
Islam is a satanic cult of a pedophile.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5133
@@defenderoftruth3212 any Jew or Christian who is familiar with the sacred scriptures and the unholy Qur'an know Muhammad is anti-Christ.
An awesome stream. Very informative. Thank you for sharing 🙏
I would ask the simple question as to Why it took 200yrs to start writing the Hadiths about Mohammed.
Because uthman burnt the qurans and many companions of Muhammad were killed during the battle of badr who memorised the verses, so bukhari collected information from different parts of the world and that took a lot of time. There were actually more hadiths and they discarded the bad ones... I think 70000 hadiths altogether.
@@mohofpetra4956 Bukhari collected over 600,000 reports but kept only 7,397 as true!, that’s over 95% rejection rate.
@@mohofpetra4956 common instinctive human behaviour of followers of a prophet/cult leader will have resulted in being convinced of he importance of that person, and the reaction to that is the urge to collect & preserve as much tangible "memorabilia" asap, not relying on "memorization".
moreover, allegedly there were written (proto)qurans around from before uthman. then why at the same time there weren't any written hadiths if muhamad was recognized as "the greatest example for mankind"?
so, the question of @ishtar lew still stands
@@mohofpetra4956 I do not see the logical connection between the burning of qur'ans, the deaths at the battle of Badr and the necessity to collect informations. Hadiths are, according to my knowledge, a totally distinct stuff than the one to be found in the Qur'an. The former is about Mohammad's life and the latter about the revelation he received.
@@didierfavre2356 there are many hadiths which are written to rectify the blunders by Muhammad and his scribes.
For eg quran says Mary as sister of Aron and daughter of imran, which is the biggest blunder of all blunders, so in hadiths they tried to cover it up but in vain ☹️
Hi Brothers in Christ, great work! I recently came across a Muslim who asked me what about Imam Malik, and was criticizing you for not including him on the timeline, I showed him how even he is pretty late according to traditional dates for his birth and death (and also contains embarrassing info). Can you talk about him in one of your episodes, or if you have already, please let me know where :) Thank you. God bless!
Who'd have thought that the guy who claimed to have the truths superceding the revelations of books written 1000 years before his time and effectively retconning all of Judeo-Christendom would have inconsistencies in his story? XD As a son of Galicians from Spain I pride myself on Northern Spain resisting caliphate rule for so long. Santiago y cierra España!
I so want to thank Yasir Qadhi for giving us the image of the Muslim 'scholar' before the questions of his western colleagues' questions feeling like the emperor in the Children's story of the Emperor's New Clothes. I think that this was a truly inspired image that Dr Qadhi presented us with. The Muslim comes before the western scholars thinking that he is soooo finely dressed, he has such fiiiine arguments and what Muslims would always accept as irrefutable but before the questions of western scholars he finds that they have questions he just has no answers to. He recognises that, though his leaders before him have convinced him into believing he is sooo fiiinely dressed, he is in fact standing there, one hopes in his underwear. If not, he is exposed in his birthday suit for all to laugh at and ridicule.
The sword of Islam has prevented this for many centuries. People in Muslim lands were under the rule of Muslim leaders whose authority and legitimacy was dependent on people being forced, by the threat of death to any apostate, to accept that, even though they saw the nakedness of their leaders, their leaders religious and political really were in place and backed by Allah himself.
But now we have come to the age of the internet and Muslims from all over the world can learn from others all over the world who can see that it is all a fake tailor's con game.
Now they can also pick up their smart phone and have access to not only the Quran to see the differences between the versions of Moses and the burning bush, or Satan not bowing to Adam etc and see almost side by side all the contradictions, but to all the tafsir that show how corrupt the events were behind little phrases like 'except those their right hands possess' really mean and can, at last, get to look at the collections of hadiths for themselves and see how many things their leaders have been hiding from them.
then they see that all of Islam, the whole philosophy and legend is standing before the modern world in its underwear (they hope).
THIS I found on the internet and it DEBUNKS THE LIES AND RHETORIC OF JAY AND AL-FADI
HERE IS A COPY AND PASTE from your bible study on Arabia. Take note that they ascribe many prophets in Arabia as well and even admit that Moses with the Exodus took his sheep to celebrate a festival to the LORD in Mecca.
And I Quote from Bible Study Notes:
The chief importance of the Hijaz arises from the fact that in it are situated the two holy cities of Mecca and Medina--the cradle and the grave of the Prophet. It is thus the religious center of the Islamic world.
2. Extinct Tribes:
Of the extinct tribes the most familiar name is that of Amlak or Amlik (Amalek). By the Arabian genealogists he is variously described as a grandson of Shem and as a son of Ham. In Genesis 36:12 he is a son of Esau's son, Eliphaz, by Timna. They are said to be first met with in Chaldea, from which they were expelled on the rise of the Assyrian power under Nimrod. They migrated into Ar, occupying in turn the Bahrein, Oman, the Yemen, and finally the Hijaz, where they are said to have been the first settlers at Yathrib (Medina) and also to have occupied land round Mecca and Kheibar.
In the time of Abraham they were expelled from Mecca on the arrival of two new tribes from the South, those of Jurhum and Katura (Genesis 25:1). Later, it is said, David, during the rebellion of Absalom, took up his quarters in Kheibar and ruled over the surrounding districts.
According to another tradition Moses sent an expedition against the Amalekites in the Hijaz, on which occasion the Israelites, disobeying his orders, spared their king Arkam (compare Rekem, Numbers 31:8; Joshua @)--a reminiscence of the incident in the life of Saul (1 Samuel 15). In any case the Amalekites were supplanted in the northern Hijaz by Jewish tribes, who continued there until the time of Mohammad.
North Arabian Tribes:
Among the Arabs Ishmael holds the place occupied by Isaac in the Hebrew tradition. It was to the valley, afterward the site of the town of Mecca, that Abraham conducted Hagar and her son, and that Ishmael grew up and became the father of a great nation. The locality is full of spots connected by tradition with his life history, the ground where Hagar searched for water, the well Zemzem of which Gabriel showed her the place, the mount Thabir where Abraham would have sacrificed his son (Ishmael), and the graves of Hagar and Ishmael. The Jurhum, among whom Ishmael grew up, gave him seven goats:
These were the capital with which he began life. He married a woman of Jurhum. He had twelve sons (Genesis 25:16) of whom Kaidar and Nabat are the best known, perhaps the Cedrei and Nabataei of Pliny; other sons were Dumah and Tema (which see). The subsequent history of the Ishmaelites is lost for several generations until we come to `Adnan, who is said to have been defeated by Nebuchadnezzar, when the latter invaded Arabia. All the Ishmaelite tribes are descended from `Adnan. They are the north Arabian tribes, as opposed to the Kahtanite or south Arabian. One of them, Koreish, under their chief, Kosay, became master of Mecca, driving out Koda`a. Later, as the tribe of the Prophet, they became the rulers of Arabia and the aristocracy of the Muslim empire; and the descendants of Mohammad remain to this day the only hierarchy known to Islam.
7. Foreign Elements:
In Arabia there was and still, in spite of religious disabilities, is a large Jewish population. Before the age of Mohammad they lived chiefly in the Northwest, the two best known tribes--An-Nadir and Koreiza--occupying Yathrib (Medina). After the rise of Islam they were expelled from Arabia; but at the present time there are probably some 60,000 Jews in the Yemen alone
2. The Ka`ba, Pilgrimages and Fairs:
Though there were many houses of God in the country, the chief religious resort even before the time of Mohammad was Mecca. The House of God (see BETHEL) here was called the Ka`ba, which is the English word "cube," the building being so called from its shape. It was believed to have been built by Abraham and Ishmael. The honor of acting as guardians of the House was a subject of rivalry among the tribes. The office was held consecutively by the tribes of Jurhum, Koda`a and Koreish, and last by the grandfather and uncles of Mohammad. These, therefore, correspond to the tribe of Levi in Israel. It is said to have contained a large number of images, but it is remarkable that the nearer our authorities get to the time of Mohammad the smaller is the number of images mentioned.
The chief of these, Hubal, is not named in the Koran. The worship took the form of circumambulation (tawaf), running or marching round the sanctuary (compare Psalms 26:6). An annual visitation was and still is made by those living at a distance, and sacrifices are offered.
This is the hajj or pilgrimage; the same name is used for the corresponding rite among the Hebrews (Exodus 10:9 and often). These religious assemblies were combined with fairs, at which markets were held and a considerable trade carried on. Before the time of Mohammad the great annual fair was held at Okaz, a place still pointed out about three days' journey East of Mecca and one day West of Taif. Here were not only all kinds of commercial transactions carried on--auctions, sales, settling of accounts and payment of blood-wit, but an academy was held at which poets recited their odes, and received judgment upon their merits. These fairs were generally held in the sacred months, that is, the first, seventh, eleventh and twelfth months, in which fighting was forbidden. They had therefore a great civilizing and pacifying influence.
Ref BIBLE STUDY NOTES
Hi Al Fad et al, would you consider a series on Jesus is not Isa? Because my in my search and discussion with muslims I cannot find Jesus anywhere in the Koran and hadith. Isa seems to be a different character with different mother, birthplace and life.
Thats fo your great work. May God bless you!
True, Muslims don't know Jesus. They know an imposter they call Isa.
just an observation. when i started watching videos debunking Islam about 8 years ago i would see many muslims responding with "lols" but now i dont see muslims responding. Could it be that they are embarrassed or that they have left Islam.
You have been watching videos debunking islam for 8 years!?
Why do you keep watching them, what interests you?
Maybe they don’t respond anymore because they are tired of senseless arguments that will get them nowhere, and the biased hate they get from ignorant people.
@@ahmed4397 i doubt that Ahmed, i believe it is bc many of them have stopped believing or bc they can no longer tolerate seeing videos that destroy their ideology like the ones that al fadi is producing. Are you a believer? If you are then here is a question i ask all muslims. ). Please show me where Gog and Magog are located. The Koran has given you some hints. It states that they are trapped between two mountains behind a wall made of iron and lead (18:94-97 Yusif Ali translation). Show me where it is on Google earth and i will forget about all the other nonsensical and immoral aspects of Islam and i will say the shahada. That will be a nice feather in your cap for converting such an infidel! But if you cannot find where they are located then will you leave Islam?
Moslems see no point arguing. Whatever float your boats at this point. Some ppl so threaten by Islam they have to make these videos to convince themselves. It’s very entertaining actually. We already have clear guidance straight from God. That’s all we need.
They are there as spammers and scammers. Many of them have left the satanic cult.
@@nunya54 Not an argument! This is something that someone writes when they are desperate without any other way to attack. Please give proof from the 7th century or before that Mecca existed. There is so many ways to prove that other cities existed in the 7th century or even much earlier. Cities like Petra and Jerusalem. Go ahead, i'm waiting!
This can be put to bed with a simple soil sample boring. Seeds, pollen, organics, etc.
The sands shift.
Mecca Is South = Hell Location
When was the first map that shows these conquered areas.. its all modern mapping.. nothing prior to 1950s shows maps like these.
very beautiful.....love from 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Thank you Al and Jay for the timeline lessons.
Holes in the narrative 🕳️⛳
Excellent - Al Fadi & Jay Smith
Desert mecca is the land of oz
Once Loreeza Nisha said: Kia Kaha, I am who I am
Thank you for this extremely important information. Hopefully more people leave the cult.
Jay and Al Fadi a wondwrful presentation
Isn't that narrative based on sunni traditions? Does the Shia traditions differ somewhat? There's also a muslim ad before your video started asking for donations to help fight islamophobia. I thought that was humorous.
Keep up the good work and research. Keep saying the truth (despite the devil 👿 stirring up strife).
Christian's believe in 3 Gods not the god of abraham
@@generaljg4373 YOU MISUNDERSTAND THE TRINITY AND A BLASPHIMER.
@@nathanjohnwade2289 the trinity is a pagan doctrine in christianity people believe in 3 Gods, muslims and Jews believe in one God, Christians cunfused by the holly ghost
@@generaljg4373 We're not the ones that are confused and paganism had ABSOLUTELY NO influence over Christianity. And how do you know that paganism came up with their so called "trinity" first?
Also, Judaism has had schools thought that the Old Testament shows multiple personages of YHWH.
As for Islam, they commit shirk by ascribing "salvation" through Muhammed. They also commit shirk by stating that the Qur'an is eternal and uncreated. Also, in Muslim traditions, each chapter of the Qur'an will appear separately at the "Day of Reconpence".
Sam Shamounian has plenty of videos proving Christ and debunking HERETICS & BLASPHIMERS like you. If you're not a coward, contact him.
@general jg abdool why running away show me one historical refrence for mecca before 741-900 AD abdool busted?😂🤣
May God bless you all 💐💐💐
Ok I have several questions, need an answer
Thanks Alfaadi and Dr Jay Smith
this is just the first minute..lets continue...
The prophet lived in bahrah.mekke valley is the valley of fatimah. In another verse, it is said that you were at the bottom of the valley, the enemy was at the top of the valley, and the caravan was at the bottom of the valley. This valley is the valley of Fatimah. .and the verses about the qibla show that the prophet is in bahrah. because for prayer you turn east and the kaaba is east of bahrah
This is a fabulous presentation
Very nice work by both of you, excellent presentation, wish it could be translated in Hindi too, cause more fools are found in Asian region 😜
Including your self. 😜
Powerful series ... to celebrate the false SIN of 2022 Ramadan ... ironically. When critically questioned and examined ... everything is a lie ... including the holiest birth place of this cult that is so deceitful and devious ... to maintain its grip and hold over gullible minds and innocent hearts. May this very destructive and corrosive hold be broken ... for many and may they be brought to the light and liberty of the true gospel.
From the perspective of the emanated created realms, Creation takes place "Yesh me-Ayin" ("Something from Nothing"). From the Divine perspective, Creation takes place "Ayin me-Yesh" ("Nothing from Something"), as only God has absolute existence; Creation is dependent on the continuous flow of Divine lifeforce, without which it would revert to nothingness. Since the 13th century, Ayin has been one of the most important words used in kabbalistic texts. The symbolism associated with the word Ayin was greatly emphasized by Moses de León (c. 1250 - 1305), a Spanish rabbi and kabbalist, through the Zohar, the foundational work of Kabbalah. In Hasidism Ayin relates to the internal psychological experience of Deveikut ("cleaving" to God amidst physicality), and the contemplative perception of paradoxical Yesh-Ayin Divine Panentheism, "There is no place empty of Him".
Even the Hafs Quran that they read today came from the (Kufa) Iraq area.
Theory of qibla in Petra is totally absurd... Thousand year ago, we already have trader, sailor, astronomer, traveler, navigator, algebra and so on. It's impossible to replace one mountain to another even back then... How they travel to southeast Asian then get back to their homeland, or travel by silk road from China to Italy and then going back if they do not master the navigation. It's impossible they do not recognize their family, their homeland. What the heck is going on? 🤣🤣 Please mind your own religion, talk about yours only, otherwise we know you afraid of something. Wait what? Why afraid if your religion is true right?
Dr. Jay Smith loved your RnD . Very well said
These videos are so educational. Thank you.
Lovely!!! May The Lord bless you brother....We have to pray for all the muslims of the Arab world to turn to the One and only Lord JESUS CHRIST!!!
10:06 mahomet died from poisoning by a jewish women who's husband & family just had been slaughtered by mahomet & his gang, then where is his grave? and what about that story of him sitting on the flying donkey that landed at the dome of the rock?
I thought it was a cow, a flying cow. If my memory is correct, that cow had a human face. In any case, this story is nonsensical, hard to believe for that reason.
@@didierfavre2356 Your memory is wrong, It was a flying donkey.
@@hdl135605 I won't argue with a expert of your caliber.
I got an ad of Muslims people converting a Church into a Mosque. I keep getting different ones like that.
Muhamad used to get vessels full of honey... So much honey at mecca???
refrence?
Honey or wives?
Such an amazing eye opener! God bless!
God bless you both !
I invite you to read the Quran
Less ads pls. Why did you start putting ads in?
Please examine: Rashad Khalifa - the number 19
There is no god but one God!
Please stop saying basically.
The clocktower got 7 towers, there is a door in mecca called bab illah, the beast in islam is the opposite of the one in the bible. 666 nautical miles from Jerusalem to Mecca
Dear, Dr Jay
Do you know that Nazareth was a wasteland, not even village nor city, at the time of Jesus ?
Thanks
What if Jesus didn't exist as well and Jerusalem were located in India
Just follow the truth...
Very Informative
This is very eye opening!
Dr. Smith many believe Ur of the Chaldees. is actually the city of Ur-kesh is on the border between Syria and Turkey. See the work of Dr. David Falk, egyptologist.
This is amazing stuff
There is a debate on CZcams called (The Qur’an and the Bible in the Light of Science) I suggest you watch it if you are interested
I love this content! 💙 ✝️
I love his knowledge he opens my mind. But let's hope this White man will not disappear for no reason someday 😂
Very good Al Fadi n Dr. Jay
The Original Mecca was in PETRA JORDAN.
You can go and make your 'holy' pilgrimage there - take Jay and Dan along...ha ha ha
im not a muslim lol
Possibility the new Makkah was built by Abraha after Petra was destroyed by the army of the elephants
You should do a show on Shipwreck off Israeli coasts which shows Christian symbols & Allah but no Muhammad. The name of the article is "Shipwreck off Israeli coast changes what we know about the early Islamic period - Archaeology"
Meaning what?
The sound is really low, but the video quality is really good. It's worth it for the content.
Are U deaf
I am not muslim but i follow you I am eager what I will you tell about mecca in next video you should here how they talk about their religion how did they keep Allah the name of their God
I have not come across any m0slem scholars that can do a presentation of similar caliber like this one. I saw ShabirAli refutation was merely sitting on his chair babbling.
It’s the best they can do; bravado is accepted as proof of factual integrity.
Hahaha they just barking
I don't think this will change Muslims coz there Faith is very strong.
Jay, at about 4am I had an apostrophe. I asked myself, why is all the filth in Islam nearly identical? Answer, they are all SINonyms.
The many different conceptions of God, and competing claims as to God's characteristics, aims, and actions, have led to the development of ideas of omnitheism, pandeism, or a perennial philosophy, which postulates that there is one underlying theological truth, of which all religions express a partial understanding, and as to which: "The devout in the various great world religions are in fact worshipping that one God, but through different, overlapping concepts or mental images of Him."
Keep up the good works brothers for the salvation of muslims
Do you believe now? What more proof do need than this, but I understand if you don’t get it
The place, the book and the man, enjoyed the video - oooooo tu tu tu
Please show us where the name 'Allah' came!!!
Nabateans apparently
Getting truth from Islamic history is like getting truth from Mohammad, full of lies and abrogations.
They also use re-interpretation, & of course Taqiyya.
Islam dies without lies but TRUTH WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL.
Dear Muslims, the Quran is clear revelation and explains everything in detail. But you need tafseer, sunnah/ahadith and commentaries on the ahadith. And they all contradict each other. WAKE UP
The problems keep mounting for Islam