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  • @user-nx5kk5ho7j
    @user-nx5kk5ho7j Před 10 měsíci +231

    Rob Hall's wife said it best. " On that mountain is where he wanted to be, and he wouldn't or our family doesn't want anyone else losing their life or getting hurt to bring him down."

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 Před 9 měsíci

      That is the correct sentiment. I don't understand family members wanting other people to risk their lives to bring back a dead body. It's pure selfishness. Let them go up and try to recover it if it means so much to them.

    • @juliebear1505
      @juliebear1505 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Rob Hall was an idiot. He caused the deaths of his paid customers. Some of which should never have been on that mountain in the first place. He was also part of the trend to encourage tourists to attempt Everest. In NZ he is considered with contempt.

    • @lf67hh28
      @lf67hh28 Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@juliebear1505 LOL - the uninformed speak. At no point did he ever take non mountaineer up the mountain. There was a strict fitness, and experience requirement.

  • @glennwatson3313
    @glennwatson3313 Před 11 měsíci +118

    "If its safe get my brother's body." How the hell can it be safe?

  • @dr4d1s
    @dr4d1s Před 11 měsíci +535

    The governments granting the climbing permits and the climbers/expeditions desperately need to enact a "pack-in pack-out" policy. There is absolutely no reason to be leaving trash on these gorgeous mountains. If you can't carry your trash back down with you, you have absolutely no business being on the mountain in the first place.

    • @Parlimant_Strifey
      @Parlimant_Strifey Před 11 měsíci +31

      people shouldn't be climbing mountains in general. They cope by calling it sport.

    • @bradbutcher8762
      @bradbutcher8762 Před 11 měsíci +21

      Who cleans up your mess if you die 25 percent of the time?

    • @jonaskussama
      @jonaskussama Před 11 měsíci +25

      @@bradbutcher8762 the government agency that received money from these expeditions and permits? Maybe if they raise the permits costs to maintain some kind of clean up team so there's more awareness to this matter?

    • @sahraxxx5927
      @sahraxxx5927 Před 11 měsíci

      yet another reason why people suck. To me morons who try to climb either K2 or Everest and especially Everest people pay because they thing sherpers will do all the work and carry everything needed. There are too many morons with too much money and ego and not enough sense. coupled with locals who are only to willing to take people on to the mountain .

    • @kevinbrooks1104
      @kevinbrooks1104 Před 11 měsíci +25

      You are worried about trash, the family's are worried that they will never see thier body back home. The Uber Rich never worry about trash , cause they have always had a servant cleaning up the mess they have left

  • @thatgirlwithbangs
    @thatgirlwithbangs Před 11 měsíci +1236

    The selfishness of the family asking for the body back is insane. I understand the thought, but the risk in way too much. Having other families lose someone just to get your loved one back? That’s not worth it.

    • @TheSuperPsychoKiller
      @TheSuperPsychoKiller Před 11 měsíci +264

      I would think leaving the bodies on the mountain is what the dead would have wanted. Why be buried 6 feet in the ground when you can rest on a beautiful mountain?

    • @pheona1164
      @pheona1164 Před 11 měsíci +63

      idk I mean I'm sure most of them would want to stay up there, I hope. But I think of the people that nearly died. The ones I have seen survive say that the last thought in the head was "I want to be off this mountain and home." Not cool to send other people up to recover bodies---especially if they are doing it for money.

    • @Mikerotch1287
      @Mikerotch1287 Před 11 měsíci

      They take the money andsay they are gonna try but they never come back with the bodies these climbers and their families are super disrespectful assholes

    • @j.whiteoak6408
      @j.whiteoak6408 Před 11 měsíci +166

      You die on the mountain, I'm afraid you stay on the mountain. Every climber knows and understands this. They need to have a good sit-down with their families BEFORE they leave and explain to them how things work,

    • @YanDaOne_QC
      @YanDaOne_QC Před 11 měsíci +9

      Sit down bot

  • @srstrand01
    @srstrand01 Před 11 měsíci +280

    You don't "Conquer" a mountain. You try to summit and return. Sometimes the mountain gods smile on your efforts and sometimes they don't.

    • @msb3235
      @msb3235 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Well said! Exactly what I've been thinking all this time and you just made it into words.

    • @scottsmith4145
      @scottsmith4145 Před 11 měsíci

      There are no mountain gods. Its a rock with ice and snow amd nothing else. Everything that happens is either user error or acts of nature based on laws of physics.

    • @oswaldcobblepot502
      @oswaldcobblepot502 Před 11 měsíci +9

      There are no mountain gods. Just Almighty God, who made all the mountains.

    • @kanielsmith6535
      @kanielsmith6535 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Now we got a mountains god.. lgbtq personal pronounces got a real competition.

    • @ION400
      @ION400 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@kanielsmith6535😆

  • @Rude_i_Wredne
    @Rude_i_Wredne Před 11 měsíci +80

    I feel like it's a bit unrelated. Those deaths haven't resulted from overcrowdment of the mountain with inexperienced climbers, rather they were the case of experienced climbers taking the odds and failing, becoming a statistic, so permit costs don't have much to do with that, unlike on the Everest, where climbers pose more of a threat to each other due to sheer numbers, making the mountain more dangerous than it needs to be.

    • @darsynia
      @darsynia Před 7 měsíci +6

      Yeah, there are competing narratives here, and the writing doesn't support the conclusions. Even the discussion about retrieving one body without mentioning the other feels incomplete. If you're going to tell us about two deaths, why focus so hard on the recovery of one without even a word about the other (directed at the creator)? The 'conclusion' reads like 'these people died from their lack of experience' but that's not supported by the story they told.

  • @veetour
    @veetour Před 11 měsíci +57

    I struggle to get out of bed in the morning. How do these people even climb such high mountain?

  • @serapeach6252
    @serapeach6252 Před 11 měsíci +250

    I feel like it's worth noting how special it was for the nepalese team of climbers to summit K2 in winter. it was the last 8000m peak to be summitted in winter. 67 years after the first ascent of K2. and almost a hundred years after the 8000m peaks were beginning to be attempted. incredible feat of determination and effort.

    • @kagomekirari25
      @kagomekirari25 Před 11 měsíci +25

      Add to that they summitted it after climbing 9 others in 3 months and then did all 14 peaks in just over 6 months total?? Absolute madness, I have nothing but respect for those men

    • @commieburner9159
      @commieburner9159 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Was that nims smoking and drinking then off to climb all the mountains hahahaha

    • @kagomekirari25
      @kagomekirari25 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@commieburner9159 legit that man climbed an 8000 meter peak while hungover I- just how

    • @sneakyfildy
      @sneakyfildy Před 11 měsíci +9

      they summited it altogether singing their national anthem, cute

    • @ONCEuponAtime999
      @ONCEuponAtime999 Před 11 měsíci +9

      they were allowed to summit in winter only due to climate change. New pictures shows that summit of K2 in not fully covered with snow anymore which never happened in the past

  • @antoniotula262
    @antoniotula262 Před 11 měsíci +334

    Richard was 60. An experienced climber, but 60 & going for K2. There was a guy who died on Hillary Step of Everest (Don Cash) who was 55 & also experienced. I saw a video clip of a 54yr old Indian woman who was with her husband on Everest & she also had 25yrs experience. This video mentions a push that took 16hrs. Even in your prime, this is an extremely demanding goal, but in your 50s & 60s it's being unrealistic. Worse yet, they place others in danger as well.

    • @brunomajenti5648
      @brunomajenti5648 Před 11 měsíci +6

      At 60 you're not experimented, you're old.
      Expérimented means that you're not stupid....

    • @veganjeliza8518
      @veganjeliza8518 Před 11 měsíci +19

      I believe that the Indian woman and her husband hadn't climbed an 8,000 peak. That was very sad as her husband had to leave her behind.

    • @antoniotula262
      @antoniotula262 Před 11 měsíci +23

      @veganjeliza8518 Anjali Kulkarni & husband Sharad had planned to climb the seven highest peaks in the world. They began this venture in their 50s & climbed Koziosci in 2014, Kilimanjaro in 2018 & were attempting Everest in 2019 where she died. I found her husband Sharad went on to reach their shared goal & climbed the seven highest peaks. He is the oldest Indian to Summit Everest at age 60.

    • @Henning_Rech
      @Henning_Rech Před 11 měsíci +21

      @@antoniotula262 Koziosci is an afternoon walk, Kilimanjaro a nice hike you can do in trail runners without any training in your 60s (like me). Has nothing to do with technical climbing.

    • @antoniotula262
      @antoniotula262 Před 11 měsíci +11

      @@Henning_Rech That was my thought too. They began climbing in their 50s & neither had experience with 8000m mountains. I read where the husband was a marathon runner, but they seem more like rich people who wanted to say they did the seven summits even though their experience was in trekking, not actual climbing. Also, the lack of oxygen at those altitudes seems to kill far more than falls. Someone in comments said that the Sherpa was telling her to get up & that she was warned to turn back. If true, then that is on her.

  • @marckhachfe1238
    @marckhachfe1238 Před 11 měsíci +72

    I never cease being horrified by pictures of K2's serac. Just nuts

    • @wapiti3750
      @wapiti3750 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yeah, it will be surreal if the whole thing broke off and swept about 50 climbers off the hill. And now the crazy part: that horrible event, should it ever happen, wouldn't stop the next batch of dumbasses from spending $75,000 each to get killed up there that way or some other way. Dorks dying on mountains is just the normal culling process to rid the Earth of those who are not fit. Survival of the fittest (as described by Darwin) isn't a joke, although mountain climbers seem to think it doesn't apply to them.

    • @MrReymoclif714
      @MrReymoclif714 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Formidable,huh?

  • @engineeringfarmer3230
    @engineeringfarmer3230 Před 11 měsíci +41

    I'm a climber, if I die on a mountain, I want to be left on that mountain! It just... "deserves me" in a way 🤷‍♀️

    • @weho_brian
      @weho_brian Před 7 měsíci +8

      beautiful mountain doesn't want your dead body there

    • @e.conboy4286
      @e.conboy4286 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@weho_brian: I agree! Sherpas lives would be compromised in recovering any body!

    • @lf67hh28
      @lf67hh28 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@weho_brianGood job it doesn't have a choice. Noone wants you anywhere 😂

  • @tdurb0
    @tdurb0 Před 11 měsíci +61

    I have no words to describe the lack of understanding of the family wanting people to recover his body. You die up there? You stay up there. That’s just how it is.

    • @alquinn8576
      @alquinn8576 Před 11 měsíci +18

      just send the family the gps coordinates and a shovel lol

    • @LsShrp
      @LsShrp Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@alquinn8576 looool

    • @tdurb0
      @tdurb0 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@alquinn8576 Hahaha 🤣🤣

    • @crakkbone
      @crakkbone Před 11 měsíci

      Why don’t they go find him? Selfish pricks.

  • @johndef5075
    @johndef5075 Před 11 měsíci +45

    Why arent climbers made to sign a waiver saying they will be left if they perish?

    • @wapiti3750
      @wapiti3750 Před 11 měsíci +6

      They know that it is "every man for himself" up there. Signing a waiver would accomplish nothing.

    • @JosieJOK
      @JosieJOK Před 11 měsíci +15

      @@wapiti3750For the climbers maybe, but a written waiver would make it crystal clear to the families.

    • @weho_brian
      @weho_brian Před 7 měsíci

      these are 3rd world countries

    • @tinymetaltrees
      @tinymetaltrees Před 4 měsíci

      The family was begging to allow volunteer friends to go. Everybody who's family doesn't beg gets left there. Who needs a waiver?

  • @micheleandhenrycasavant386
    @micheleandhenrycasavant386 Před 11 měsíci +83

    Fellow climbers were successful in moving Matt's body. He is now buried at the foot of K2 along side other legends who had lost their lives through out the years. It is near the memorial built by fellow climbers which has all the names of those that died in the attempt to summit K2.

    • @edwardrichard2561
      @edwardrichard2561 Před 11 měsíci

      Legends? Complete idiots.

    • @alkaholic4848
      @alkaholic4848 Před 11 měsíci +29

      All that risk and effort just to move it a few thousand metres, what's the point!?

    • @UmarIbnAlKhattab1
      @UmarIbnAlKhattab1 Před 11 měsíci +19

      "legends"

    • @vikingsoftomorrow4038
      @vikingsoftomorrow4038 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@alkaholic4848 I dont think you realize how difficult it is to move bodies in mountain ranges.

    • @MarissaNye
      @MarissaNye Před 11 měsíci +18

      @@vikingsoftomorrow4038I think that was their point. It’s hard and dangerous to move bodies so why risk peoples lives just to move a body a short distance.

  • @JacobStein1960
    @JacobStein1960 Před 11 měsíci +128

    My goal is to truly make history. I am leading an expedition to climb K2 in the winter without oxygen, ropes or clothing. It will be the first nudist ascent of an 8000 meter.

    • @Road_Rash
      @Road_Rash Před 11 měsíci +36

      And likely the shortest as well as the last... Lol!

    • @JacobStein1960
      @JacobStein1960 Před 11 měsíci +37

      @@Road_Rash People who climb with clothing aren’t accomplishing anything. If you sit in an airliner you are higher than Everest. Is every airline passenger “making history”? But if you climb above 8000 meters nude, that’s an accomplishment. All climbing societies should require this, as well as forbidding ropes and bottled oxygen. That’s really climbing.

    • @SaintNarcissa
      @SaintNarcissa Před 11 měsíci +16

      God speed good sir.

    • @JacobStein1960
      @JacobStein1960 Před 11 měsíci +38

      @@SaintNarcissa Let’s put the “climbing” back into mountain climbing. We should have at least a 100% fatality rate. That’s true adventure.

    • @neuralmute
      @neuralmute Před 11 měsíci +21

      @@JacobStein1960 I like your attitude at altitude.

  • @jesusisking8502
    @jesusisking8502 Před 11 měsíci +28

    No way will K2 become Everest. K2 is a total beast to climb and many many great climbers failed to summit it before it was finally conquered. Even if it did, once the bodies started to pile up that bucket list item will be removed pretty quickly for most.

    • @Zazzaro703
      @Zazzaro703 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Must be a lot easier now than it was then if 100 people were successful in one day. That’s just wild to me having 100 people trying to navigate a section already named the bottleneck. People always say they want to spend the least amount of time anywhere near the serac as possible and there were at least 100 people up there that day.

    • @sahraxxx5927
      @sahraxxx5927 Před 11 měsíci

      funny at one point Everest was considered not only the highest mountain but the most dangerous. Know morons with no experience climb Everest because the sherpers do everything from carrying supplies to laying out routes ect . That along with the ease of permits and the fact people don't think they need the experience .

    • @Idekreally
      @Idekreally Před 3 měsíci

      @@Zazzaro703it’s a disaster waiting to happen. Much worse than anything Everest can offer.

  • @sultanniazi2394
    @sultanniazi2394 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Been to k2 base camp a few times. Just that is an experience in itself. The mountain itself yells out when u see it. I will get u. Come to me. It’s so scary.

  • @orfamayQ
    @orfamayQ Před 11 měsíci +29

    As it is expensive to even get there, and dangerous to try to recover a body, I think the family was out of place to sort of "demand" someone else to just do it for them. They would at least have to pay for it, if it's that important to them. Everyone should know the risks of dying on the mountain and know that they will very likely not have a proper funeral after that.

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC Před 9 měsíci +4

      Right? If they want the body they can go get it themselves

  • @MrSpeedyAce
    @MrSpeedyAce Před 8 měsíci +6

    "All climbers who die in the mountains while pursuing their passion should have a chance to be found and buried"
    Ok then you go get him lol

  • @paulfletcher3998
    @paulfletcher3998 Před 11 měsíci +66

    You'd have thought there'd be a basic standard of skill and experience needed before you'd be allowed anywhere near somewhere like K2.

    • @terrymoore1830
      @terrymoore1830 Před 11 měsíci

      You don't know what I thought. My thoughts are my own. You may be right or you may be wrong - no one will know for certain.

    • @unicornL
      @unicornL Před 11 měsíci +10

      You would think self-preservation would be a part of that decision-making process.

    • @paulfletcher3998
      @paulfletcher3998 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@terrymoore1830 What on earth are you talking about?
      I've said nothing about your thoughts.

    • @terrymoore1830
      @terrymoore1830 Před 11 měsíci

      @@paulfletcher3998 You wrote "You'd have thought ...." I didn't think that at all. Why are you telling me what I'd of thought? Or did you mean to write "I'd of thought...."? Why do people assume that we all think the same as them?

    • @paulfletcher3998
      @paulfletcher3998 Před 11 měsíci +20

      @@terrymoore1830 alright mate, chill out. It's just a figure of speech.
      I wasn't telling you to think anything.
      I bet you're fun at parties.

  • @thewaywardgrape3838
    @thewaywardgrape3838 Před 11 měsíci +164

    The technical requirement for summitting K2 is different to Everest. I guarantee you, we'll start seeing lots of deaths which will lead to a major shift in the world of 8k meter climbing. Edit: Personally, I'd enforce a passport and reference and disclaimer system for passes: Validate your experience in summitting 7k meters, rock climbing grade skill, ice climbing experience, expedition host character statements and a fine for litter.

    • @thewaywardgrape3838
      @thewaywardgrape3838 Před 11 měsíci

      @TerrorTwin. Fire away 😁

    • @MrReymoclif714
      @MrReymoclif714 Před 11 měsíci

      @@thewaywardgrape3838Your @ did nothing.

    • @thewaywardgrape3838
      @thewaywardgrape3838 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@MrReymoclif714 Yeah the comments have been deleted. I'm guessing someone's upset by something 🙄

    • @highertest
      @highertest Před 11 měsíci +4

      Why would they do that? Rich people are way more profitable for the people there than very experienced mountaineers are and Nepal is so insanely poor that they need all the money they can get.

    • @thewaywardgrape3838
      @thewaywardgrape3838 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@highertest Why would they do that - Well if you need it explaining, here goes: Deaths and the consequences of deaths. Do you want me to explain in more detail or are you going to apply some critical thinking?

  • @maheenmasood18
    @maheenmasood18 Před 11 měsíci +18

    People that do excursions like this, caving, diving, etc. should know the risks they are taking and other people shouldn’t have to risk their lives for the idiocy of another person IMO

    • @itxalikhan
      @itxalikhan Před 11 měsíci +4

      Yep You're right.

    • @viha8544
      @viha8544 Před 11 měsíci +7

      There are many climbers on these mountains that specifically state beforehand that no attempt at recovering their body should be made in case of a fall. I think that's how it should be. It's common to move bodies out of sight if circumstances allow it and that's the furthest anyone should go..

  • @lifttech65
    @lifttech65 Před 11 měsíci +38

    When a family member or friend decides to climb any of these mountains. You should say your goodbyes before they leave. Because there is a good chance you will never see them again.

  • @cyberdaemon
    @cyberdaemon Před 11 měsíci +19

    Seeing that many people try to summit waiting after another in line feels like mayor disaster waiting to happen...

  • @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
    @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 Před 11 měsíci +35

    Many years ago, a popular Danish song was about a man standing on a mountain top, and asking: Why did he climb it? Okay, as a Dane our highest "mountain" is hardly 200 m and several with a tower to be able to look further out. It has latest been found that a field named Møllehøj is actually the highest point in Denmark! Take that, Mount Everest!

    • @galaxyfanfan2938
      @galaxyfanfan2938 Před 11 měsíci +1

      What is that song called??

    • @SlamSector
      @SlamSector Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@galaxyfanfan2938Shu-bi-dua, står på en alpeto

    • @bigfootvsscots7981
      @bigfootvsscots7981 Před 11 měsíci +1

      lol i have been to top of that "mountain" the tower with music is cool

  • @LastAvailableAlias
    @LastAvailableAlias Před 11 měsíci +17

    The number of permits isn't the issue, it is the lack of any requirements. Even Baxter SP in Maine has entry requirements in the winter.

    • @gonnabeok.
      @gonnabeok. Před 10 měsíci

      @LastAvailableAlias
      Its all about the money to Nepalese Gov. They dont care about anything and issue permit like flyers

    • @tinymetaltrees
      @tinymetaltrees Před 4 měsíci

      What issue? It's a dangerous feat. The expense is enough to deter most people and the weather deters most everybody else. Hold up folks! I know there's just a couple rich crazy people that haven't been eliminated and still want to go, but @LastAvailableAlias has an issue with you guys going mountain climbing in Nepal that you really need to address. You gotta answer some questions for the CZcams comments section before you can go to base camp.
      🤓SAFETY FIRST!
      ffs🤣

  • @timothybarrett9005
    @timothybarrett9005 Před 11 měsíci +10

    They're trying to turn mountain climbing into a pony ride but the mountains aren't having it...

  • @ASM881
    @ASM881 Před 11 měsíci +31

    Thanks for explaining how much 25% is. I had no idea.

    • @glennwatson3313
      @glennwatson3313 Před 11 měsíci +10

      Its like half right?

    • @AndrewDibb-ro3uz
      @AndrewDibb-ro3uz Před 11 měsíci +4

      as a social construct it's what you need it to be

    • @glennwatson3313
      @glennwatson3313 Před 11 měsíci

      @@AndrewDibb-ro3uz Math is racist anyway.

    • @Leychen
      @Leychen Před 11 měsíci +1

      Well, there's more people than you might think which actually have no idea.

    • @DVFHAFYT
      @DVFHAFYT Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Leychen Actually true...met a girl in college who didn't understand the concept of 360 degrees, I was a bit stunned by that.

  • @FatRescueSwimmer04
    @FatRescueSwimmer04 Před 11 měsíci +11

    A buddy who I deployed w/ in Iraq died trying to climb this Mountain and he was a really talented and tough dude. I think just having some bad luck will kill you much less not knowing what you are doing. It will eventually get a bunch of people killed that's for sure

  • @narichey1981
    @narichey1981 Před 11 měsíci +124

    It shouldn't count as summiting a mountain unless you make it all the way back alive. Also, rescue attempts and body retrievals should be prohibited, you should have to agree to that before getting a permit

    • @unicornL
      @unicornL Před 11 měsíci +6

      Absolutely agree!

    • @Mrbfgray
      @Mrbfgray Před 11 měsíci

      So if they die in a taxi cab accident coming from the airport to home they didn't summit? Dumb notion. Leaving bodies on the mountain makes sense but it's not for anyone to mandate, get so tired you Nanny State proponents always wanting to control other ppl when it's none of your damn business.

    • @Ron-Swanson
      @Ron-Swanson Před 11 měsíci +38

      It’s called summiting because they reached the summit… what would you call it?

    • @wapiti3750
      @wapiti3750 Před 11 měsíci +1

      It doesn't count. If a stupid, selfish, egotistical climber dies on descent, the recorded score is: K2 1; Dumbass Climber 0.

    • @prasannjitkumar780
      @prasannjitkumar780 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@Ron-Swanson😂😂😂😂well said

  • @delphine567
    @delphine567 Před 11 měsíci +31

    Finding crazy to try retrieving the body given the level of risk for the rescuers. Matt knew it I guess and the family should be have been aware of that risk as well and accept it

    • @sirridesalot6652
      @sirridesalot6652 Před 11 měsíci +2

      apparently the sister said only if it didn't risk others to retrieve the body.

    • @basicallymid
      @basicallymid Před 9 měsíci

      Seems like a waste of money too, to then just bury it at the bottom of the mountain.

  • @H3110NU
    @H3110NU Před 11 měsíci +56

    I’ve always thought for Everest they should cap the number at like 150 climbers and then increase the price up until it almost not popular.

    • @lolalalia4119
      @lolalalia4119 Před 11 měsíci

      Unfortunately, the Himalayas stretches through multiple governments and are the main source of travel tourism money. The climbing companies are primarily owned by westerners that have more sway than thr impoverished people of the Himalayas. Wealthy white men rule the mountains

    • @brendanward2991
      @brendanward2991 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Or an annual auction?

    • @brianmays4366
      @brianmays4366 Před 11 měsíci +9

      The sherpas need the money, this is the main way that they make money so it is a good idea but would be unpopular

    • @lebronjames5601
      @lebronjames5601 Před 11 měsíci +22

      Nepal is a small, poor, landlocked country. Most of their revenue comes from tourism. So basically they use their natural resources e.g. mountains to make money. Then there’s the sherpas, porters and other support personnel that make a living off of mountaineering. Doing this type of work has allowed their families to send kids to school, open business etc. If unprepared climbers get killed because of their hubris then so be it. I think China has the right idea when granting permits for Mt. Everest. The climbers must prove they have successfully climbed other 8,000 meter mountain before receiving a permit. My main problem is the garbage that’s left behind. Mt. Everest is a beautiful mountain marred by tons of garbage including bodily waste. It’s the tallest toilet in the world. I believe that each person should pay $10K for garbage removal. If they don’t want to pay it then they must bring all their garbage and then some back down.

    • @scottfay3553
      @scottfay3553 Před 11 měsíci +3

      its so easy now to get up Everest now with new gear sherpas etc its time to stop the madness no permits no sherpas

  • @pootinky1000
    @pootinky1000 Před 11 měsíci +9

    always love your videos on mountaineering

  • @helpstopanimalabuse8153
    @helpstopanimalabuse8153 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Informative & showed great respect to the deceased climbers & families. Great video.

  • @miapdx503
    @miapdx503 Před 9 měsíci +4

    What a stunningly beautiful mountain. I'm satisfied with just looking at it.

  • @schoolsfan3719
    @schoolsfan3719 Před 11 měsíci +33

    I would die at the first base camp.
    I just don't get the urge people have to do this activity/sport.

    • @brinsonharris9816
      @brinsonharris9816 Před 11 měsíci +3

      I read about a guy who died on Everest’s first base camp, at about 16k feet where you’re supposed to “acclimate” to the thin air. Insane.

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Even the hike to base camp would be very difficult for regular people so wouldnt surprise me if someone not completely healthy or prepared could get issues and even possibly die from like heart attack.

    • @NondescriptMammal
      @NondescriptMammal Před 11 měsíci +4

      The standard answer to this is, "Because it's there!", which sums up the stupidity of it.

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I wouldn't make it to the first base camp.

    • @NondescriptMammal
      @NondescriptMammal Před 9 měsíci

      @@brinsonharris9816 Yeah even at 16000 feet you are only getting a little over half the oxygen per breath than at sea level

  • @glennwatson3313
    @glennwatson3313 Před 11 měsíci +13

    If I want to wait in line I will go to Disney World.

  • @overthebars6983
    @overthebars6983 Před 11 měsíci +53

    such an underrated channel! keep up your amazing work.

    • @pheona1164
      @pheona1164 Před 11 měsíci +3

      100%

    • @TerrorTwin
      @TerrorTwin  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you!

    • @carmenl163
      @carmenl163 Před 8 měsíci

      @@_______v I don't understand. What's wrong with that?

    • @_______v
      @_______v Před 8 měsíci +1

      Actually maybe I was wrong. I think the way I interpreted it was "1 death for 4 people who survive", which is my mistake. One death for four people who reach the summit is indeed approx 25% death rate if approx all deaths happen after reaching the summit.
      I deleted my comment, thank you for calling me out on this.

    • @carmenl163
      @carmenl163 Před 8 měsíci

      @@_______v It's rare to find a person on YT who admits they've misinterpreted information. I applaud you for that!

  • @diningbadger953
    @diningbadger953 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Going up is easy-peasy...coming down with all extremities intact without frostbite is a far extreme challenge.

  • @itmeyo0
    @itmeyo0 Před 11 měsíci +8

    I agree to get the body back seems insane and they knew the risks prior.

  • @Thomas.3698
    @Thomas.3698 Před 9 měsíci

    Good video, good story, I'll subscribe.

  • @davidpeters3857
    @davidpeters3857 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Excellent content

  • @Kda2456
    @Kda2456 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Maybe someone will employ some forethought and prevent K2 from becoming a high elevation landfill!

  • @DoctorJammer
    @DoctorJammer Před 11 měsíci +5

    Well made video.

  • @midnightrider1178
    @midnightrider1178 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Love the Videos keep it up man!

  • @covercalls88
    @covercalls88 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Mountain climbing at these elevations entails many risks and one mistake can kill you. I've done a few risky things in my life my hats off to them who lives life on the edge.

  • @daviddowie828
    @daviddowie828 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Climbing Everest is a fully functioning Industry, with the local villages relying on the trade from Climbers and Base Camp Trekkers.I am a Mountaineer and Everest would be the last place I would ever want to be. The whole Mountain is covered in Trash and corpses. Its turned into a shrine for the Egotistical Rich, being baby sat all the way up and down by Sherpas.
    There are numerous 7000+m mountains in the Himalayas/Karakorum that are spectacular tests for the Mountaineer. But you cant brag to your Buddies at the local Country Club about climbing them, only Everest or K2 fit that catagory.

    • @cherryfireice8216
      @cherryfireice8216 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I would rather just hike where there are waterfalls and vegetation. The only good thing I can think about it is you lose a lot of weight.

  • @MasrSR
    @MasrSR Před 11 měsíci +1

    That view and adrenalin rush gotta be crazy 😅😅

  • @chrismassaro3435
    @chrismassaro3435 Před 11 měsíci +16

    I always thought Everest was the mighty mountain to climb, but K2 is the Widowmaker

    • @LsShrp
      @LsShrp Před 11 měsíci +1

      several 8000ers are more difficult than Everest, and even some 7000ers

    • @chrismassaro3435
      @chrismassaro3435 Před 11 měsíci

      @@LsShrp yeah....so I've been reading. Just seems like Everest gets all the publicity

    • @nickreynolds8391
      @nickreynolds8391 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@chrismassaro3435 Yeah I'm no expert, but just off the top of my head - K2, Annapurna, Nanga Parbat, and Kangchenjunga are all considered more difficult and dangerous mountains to climb.
      That said, Everest is still extremely dangerous. 17 people died on Everest in 2023 alone.

  • @gregorylumpkin2128
    @gregorylumpkin2128 Před 11 měsíci +3

    We "conquer" these mountains but when they kill us, our loved ones want to risk more lives so we can be "laid to rest with dignity."

  • @nixbronowski5822
    @nixbronowski5822 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The Rich..Always in the WAKE of the Talented, Brave & Truly Passionate.

  • @jasonhines5524
    @jasonhines5524 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you for the imagine it is beautiful....

  • @TheOtherSteel
    @TheOtherSteel Před 9 měsíci +2

    If the death rate for those climbing K2 is twenty-five percent, then of the one hundred who summited the previous day, twenty-five of them died.

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 Před 9 měsíci

      This is where I'm going to be a dick and say "not necessarily".

  • @lihiko3891
    @lihiko3891 Před 9 měsíci

    Top tier narration. Also, What's the intro music?

  • @scerplaya
    @scerplaya Před 11 měsíci +2

    With such a high death rate the permit process should require filling out an advanced directive.
    Also, if they truly wanted it to be safe, there would be an affordable yet challenging certification process that should be required. Then, it would be about experience, not money.

  • @tdurb0
    @tdurb0 Před 11 měsíci +6

    I grew up with Alison Hargreaves. Alison and her son Tom deserve a full-length documentary all of their own. The only comfort I got from their deaths was that they both died doing something they loved.
    Alison’s daughter looks so much like her mum it’s scary

    • @mimibee626
      @mimibee626 Před 11 měsíci

      And yet no one has ever heard of them, so their brag trip and death were for nothing. As Trump would say "They were losers, and we dont like losers." And they cared absolutely nothing for their daughter or they wouldnt have thrown their lives away for something so worthless.

  • @Gk2003m
    @Gk2003m Před 11 měsíci +29

    It is not a tragedy when a mountaineer perishes while climbing (or descending).

    • @Leychen
      @Leychen Před 11 měsíci +3

      Well, it depends. For the family it's always a tragedy when someone dies, no matter how the person actually died.
      But for the general public it's basically "normal" that a few people die on 8000ers every year, a bit like people dying in road accidents.

    • @katherineg9396
      @katherineg9396 Před 9 měsíci

      You know the risks and decide to do it anyway? That's sad, but not a tragedy.

    • @weho_brian
      @weho_brian Před 7 měsíci

      I feel bad for the sherpas

  • @neilcapers4426
    @neilcapers4426 Před 11 měsíci +1

    thanks for explaining what 25% actually is I had no idea...

  • @quinncampbell9255
    @quinncampbell9255 Před 11 měsíci +4

    i feel like a hipster now. i only learned about K2 awhile ago and now people go tghere instead of Everest and i feel like i knew about it before it was famous and i feel like im a cool kid now.

  • @patrickhanlon932
    @patrickhanlon932 Před 5 měsíci

    I like that we live in a world where someone else can go record an HD video of the view from some of the tallest points on earth. Like, being able to see this stuff without risking your life is pretty awesome.

  • @Abgjamil76
    @Abgjamil76 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Kepada mereka yang gemar mendaki gunung.. Tolong bawa kembali sampah yang anda bawa ke atas gunung.. Diatas sana bukan tempat tong pembuangan sampah.. Jangan menyusahkan sherpa untuk mengutip sampah yang anda bawa.. Hargailah kebersihan alam 🏔️🗻🏞️

  • @raymondcava4669
    @raymondcava4669 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Leave the dead climber on the mountain. It’s not about the family but rather the climber himself. To each his own.

  • @deepat
    @deepat Před 11 měsíci +1

    That winter Nepal team must be the hardest men on the planet.

  • @anettebaumann9385
    @anettebaumann9385 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I wouldn't like to climb on a place that is literally a cimetary 😟

  • @hoosieraussis1
    @hoosieraussis1 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Umm, it's not safe. That's why your loved one perished. Astonishing to ask someone else to risk their lives to retrieve the already dead people who are strangers to them. It must be the grief talking.

  • @AaronxWay
    @AaronxWay Před 5 měsíci +1

    Imagine standing in line just to die 😂

  • @oliverfrots9300
    @oliverfrots9300 Před 11 měsíci +1

    K2 death rate is nowhere near 25%, a quick google shows it sits at 13% due to many successful summits in recent history

  • @denniscliff2071
    @denniscliff2071 Před 11 měsíci +35

    If you need all of that help and support and assistance to climb any mountain, can you say that you actually climbed the mountain? One of my best climbs was my solo ascent of a Washington State volcano in winter conditions which was an ice climb. I was the only person on the mountain.

    • @highertest
      @highertest Před 11 měsíci +1

      You did an actual ice climb free solo? Like double ice axe and crampons free solo?

    • @denniscliff2071
      @denniscliff2071 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@highertest Yes, on glacial ice with two ice tools and crampons. It wasn't vertical, but about 60 degrees for long stretches. In the dark with a small headlamp, I went up a few dead-end chutes and had to back down. At one point my head light bulb died, and I had to replace it, which, of course took two hands. On one vertical waterfall ice climb, I severed my climbing rope with my crampon front point. The rope was held together with threads, so I could tie a quick loop to avoid finishing the pitch with no protection.

    • @CyVinci
      @CyVinci Před 11 měsíci

      @@denniscliff2071respect

    • @wematanye533
      @wematanye533 Před 11 měsíci

      Just rich people buying $100,000 selfies. Disgusting.

    • @carmenl163
      @carmenl163 Před 8 měsíci +1

      But this climber did it on his own. He stood alone on the top.

  • @KatmanJazznBlues
    @KatmanJazznBlues Před 11 měsíci +2

    Do they count Sherpas as climbers? If so there are less Sherpas I would think, per group that is. Probably rarer to see large expeditions on K2 because of the cost, I hope the one in four doesn't count Sherpas, but it makes sense since they take the biggest risks. My prayers go out to all that have lost their lives, and that includes the Sherpas who don't do it for ego, but to feed their families.

  • @maxpercer7119
    @maxpercer7119 Před 7 měsíci

    that intro music though

  • @MyGodZach
    @MyGodZach Před 11 měsíci +1

    Who ever gets lost on the mountain should stay there alone forever

  • @chianTiV
    @chianTiV Před 11 měsíci +1

    Am I the only one seeing a resemblance of a face in 1:36 ?🥶

  • @lks6248
    @lks6248 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Sad and tragic as these stories are bit should be accepted that if you die somewhere so dangerous, your body should remain there.

  • @BoulderBum
    @BoulderBum Před 11 měsíci +1

    K2 is not for the faint of heart

  • @asdfadfafsdfa
    @asdfadfafsdfa Před 11 měsíci +1

    If you go up an extreme mountain you should not expect anyone else to risk their lives for your dead body.

  • @furumarara87
    @furumarara87 Před 11 měsíci

    is there a longer version of the intromusic?

  • @markmarsh27
    @markmarsh27 Před 11 měsíci +107

    Losing your life on a mountain because your ego has morphed into a fatal illness is exactly as stupid as diving to the Titanic in a homemade tin can.

    • @Bleckyyyy
      @Bleckyyyy Před 11 měsíci

      But it's these guys that make a progress for the humanity, not a couch warrior like you.

    • @schoolsfan3719
      @schoolsfan3719 Před 11 měsíci +8

      Great comparison!
      I think both are just crazy.
      Have zero desire to do either.

    • @bradleyhalfacre7992
      @bradleyhalfacre7992 Před 11 měsíci

      It's good, eliminate the stupid!

    • @leaheames8995
      @leaheames8995 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@schoolsfan3719one will no longer be an option! Damn he was a mad man with too much money and an enormous ego.

    • @ASM881
      @ASM881 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Carbon Graphite can.

  • @OuiOui..
    @OuiOui.. Před 10 měsíci

    I was thinking that a lot of people are going to decide faster now with the Netflix series/documentary "Aftershock"

  • @user-hr1xf1dt3d
    @user-hr1xf1dt3d Před 11 měsíci

    Thanks for letting me know that 25% is 1 out of 4 people, didnt know that 👍

  • @mrwdpkr5851
    @mrwdpkr5851 Před 11 měsíci +6

    You can see the curvature of the Earth at the beach .

  • @philasoma
    @philasoma Před 11 měsíci +7

    one of the sad parts of this generation is the loss of the frontier.

    • @MsMaxine306
      @MsMaxine306 Před 11 měsíci +2

      You mean the lost of common sense?

    • @philasoma
      @philasoma Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@MsMaxine306 You're not wrong but explorers all throughout history probably lacked common sense when they set off into the unknown. The sad thing here is people are starved for adventure but there isn't really anything new to explore. K2/Everest aren't really even accomplishments anymore. We are a gap generation. The frontiers on earth are all realistically explored, and we aren't able to get to space yet. I think that affects people.

    • @lemonnade5974
      @lemonnade5974 Před 9 měsíci

      @@philasoma Climbing mountains has nothing to do with the desire for exploration. It is simply about the satisfaction of overcoming a challenge. Its the same reason people engage in any other sport.

  • @chloris6349
    @chloris6349 Před 9 měsíci

    can anyone write the name of the melody that plays in the intro? Please!
    And thanks for the interesting videos!

  • @AAA19999
    @AAA19999 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I don't think any bodies should be recovered, I would never go there myself

  • @zztops4504
    @zztops4504 Před 11 měsíci +2

    But K2 is nothing like Everest. It's a killer mountain. That bottleneck is terrifying!

  • @davegriffin9083
    @davegriffin9083 Před 11 měsíci

    I like the pretty colors of their little suits😍

  • @danielj7745
    @danielj7745 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Only essential supplies are carried by climbers to base camp 5:50 including LIVE chickens!?

  • @ajoydas-Watch-It
    @ajoydas-Watch-It Před 10 měsíci +1

    If you don't have the skills, don't go up there. If you do have the skils, don't go up there.

  • @champlifts2558
    @champlifts2558 Před 11 měsíci +4

    The only problem i have with this video is at 4:15 he seems to attribute fisheye lens with almost being able to see the curvature of the earth lol

    • @nathanielw4204
      @nathanielw4204 Před měsícem

      The curvature of the Earth actually becomes noticeable at around 10,000 meters. So it would almost be visible at the peak (~8000m), as he said in the video.

  • @HumptyDumpty-os7ie
    @HumptyDumpty-os7ie Před 11 měsíci +3

    Why take the risk of descending alone

  • @mikhailiagacesa3406
    @mikhailiagacesa3406 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Keep climbing those mountains. Darwin awards abound.

    • @Loralanthalas
      @Loralanthalas Před 11 měsíci

      ? Most mountaineers are well educated. Or a dirt bag from well educated backgrounds and families. If you're talking about the damn tourists have at them.

    • @YanDaOne_QC
      @YanDaOne_QC Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yo momma is Darwin awards abound

  • @bradleyhalfacre7992
    @bradleyhalfacre7992 Před 11 měsíci

    Any amount of supplies can be taken in if you can afford it.

  • @Hauggyful
    @Hauggyful Před 11 měsíci +2

    Imagine risking your life for a dead body.

  • @nickgianesin5254
    @nickgianesin5254 Před 6 měsíci

    The governments issuing permits should probably have an age limit, but then again, im watching this in bed eating pizza.

  • @snowman8052
    @snowman8052 Před 11 měsíci +7

    I’ve found an update on the gofundme campaign:
    « 18 juillet 2023
    par Danielle Bonnington, Organisateur
    The following has been very difficult to write, hence my delay.
    Despite the most incredible efforts of the team in Pakistan, Matthew’s body was unable to be recovered and buried in February, despite our great hope and the incredible efforts of the team.
    The great mountain K2 has decided to keep Matthew. The avalanche and amount of snow that covered his body after his accident almost a year ago was too significant. It was simply impossible under the circumstances to find him. »

    • @weho_brian
      @weho_brian Před 7 měsíci

      "The great mountain K2 has decided to keep Matthew." 😆😆 Humans are hilarious

  • @victorcontreras9138
    @victorcontreras9138 Před 11 měsíci +3

    The climbers should themselves state to their loved ones what they want done with their bodies should they die! Fully knowing the great risk, they should cover every detail and hopefully, in an unselfish way.

  • @Novemberrain111
    @Novemberrain111 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Close the mountain down!

  • @marcusliddell
    @marcusliddell Před 11 měsíci +1

    1:35 OMG look at the face on the mountain in central area, I cant unsee it!

  • @frankmcgarry3155
    @frankmcgarry3155 Před 9 měsíci

    The thing about mountains like k2 is you could have all the experience in the world and still die. This place is no joke.

  • @littlemissgwendolen1466
    @littlemissgwendolen1466 Před 3 měsíci

    families don’t seem to understand how difficult, expensive and pretty much impossible it is to carry a dead body down a mountain. I can sympathize with them but why?

  • @FFDeathPunch
    @FFDeathPunch Před 11 měsíci +3

    "but shortly after that message, Matt would tragically never be heard from again".... ...wait, what? 09:30

    • @stevecarter8810
      @stevecarter8810 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Immediately after the message, he would be heard of again, but then, moments later, he would never be heard of again. Um.

    • @glennwatson3313
      @glennwatson3313 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@stevecarter8810 Until after he was not heard from, then he was never heard from again.

    • @NondescriptMammal
      @NondescriptMammal Před 11 měsíci +3

      As it turns out, even much later he would never be heard from again.

    • @stevecarter8810
      @stevecarter8810 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@NondescriptMammal oh God. It happened more than once? He was never heard from again *again*?

    • @glennwatson3313
      @glennwatson3313 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@NondescriptMammal Yes, but even today, after all this time, he has never been heard from again.