Why We Find Rainforests in Unexpected Places
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2021
- Many of us are familiar with rainforests; lush and exotic environments that serve as the pinnacle of life on Earth. For the most part we assume these only occur throughout the tropics, but as it turns out certain areas in the temperate latitudes can receive just as much rainfall, creating a number of rainforests in unexpected places.
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As someone from Scotland I never thought I'd find anyone actively looking for more rain
I actually prefer living in rainy weather than dry
Love clouds and am honestly glad most people don't cx more room for me
@@justinallen2408 until it flood your house and you have to clean it everyday, it sucks. I would rather live in a cold snowy enviornment
Many of us are going through yet ANOTHER year of drought.... so YEAH, many are looking for rain.... not even more rain, because we dont get a lot to begin with. Rain in general would be lovely
I *like* rain, it's the overcast that's killing me...
Being from Mazandaran, Iran I confuse a lot of people talking about how I used to hike in the rainforest as a child.
Yes, that was a surprise to me. Fascinating!
It seems like it would be so cool to go to the rainforest there and drive a relatively short distance to arrive in a desert. It’d be fun to go back and forth and give yourself like climate whiplash lol
Well you are Irainian after all, lol
(how most mispronounce it in the US)
@@Whatsayoutuber Well guess what that's what everyone from Tehran does, summer or winter the temps in the Caspian coast is almost always more temperate, so almost everyone has a holiday house along the coast. But well if temps drop enough every few years all that rain turns into (very) heavy snowfall which is not fun. Luckily it's only once every 4 5 years.
There is some high-quality footage of the Hyrcanian forest on youtube. It is not a myth: czcams.com/video/VdWFo_LQStw/video.html
Iran’s geography always finds a way to amaze me.
Iran's human geography is even more diverse than its physical geography.
Yeah, because sand is just SO amazing. .
@@liberatedentrepreneur149 I think you’re thinking of another country Iran is more mountainous than desert. Educate yourself before typing please
@@Raccoonhandler11 I mean, Irans mountains are just desert mountains
@@Chadius_Thundercock Not true! The mountains are in fact where the main concentration of water, settlements, and vegetation in Iran is. Even the country's capital is high up in the mountains.
fun little note to point out, the Valdivian and Magellanic forests sit just below the Atacama desert, the dryest desert on earth. crazy just how much of an effect the wind direction can have on an environment
Well, the Valdivian rainforest doesn’t sit right below the Atacama as there is the Chilean Matorral separating them. It’s similar to how you have the desert of Baja California then as you move north the California Mediterranean ecoregion, then eventually the Pacific Temperate Rainforest in the USA. I get that your intention was to emphasize the effect of trade winds though. 👍
What's so crazy about it ??
It's not quite like that; There is a large central climatic zone intermediate between the Atacama Desert and the Valdivian Forest and the Magallanic Forest, and that intermediate zone is Mediterranean; with a Mediterranean climate and with Mediterranean plant species (such as the "Matorral Chileno" and the "Palma chilena", among others) even with _"Mediterranean geography"_ similar to the Californian coast. Even more; the sea off the central coast of Chile is as cold as the sea that bathes California
Fun fact: There's a small, vestigial Valdivian forest on the coastal mountains on the southern edge of the Atacama desert. The plants remain able to live there because of the oceanic mist!
@@fyrfytin-27 very fun fact
The rainforests of Tasmania and Victoria are home to the tallest species of flowering plant (Eucalyptus Regnans) which rival the height of the redwoods of North America.
Tasmania also has the second tallest tree (not just flowering tree) in the world. Sitting at over 100m. Unfortunately the tree was burnt during the 2019 fires (still standing though).
It doesn't rival the height of the redwoods. In fact the only tall tree it rivals in height is the very abundant Douglas Fir. Redwoods have been seen to grow much taller.
@@DR-54 I just Googled it and you're wrong... goddamn Potato Chip haha
I live quite close to the Otway ranges in victoria where those trees once stood. The weird thing about the rainforest there is that the ranges they grow on are not very tall and don't cover a particularly large area, not to mention being surrounded by vast dry hot grasslands, and yet it supports a rainforest with some of the tallest trees in the world.
@@DR-54 did you do your research? Wikipedia article for both pages says that Hyperion is the largest living Redwood currently known at 115m, and the tallest living Mountain Ash is 100m. The largest reliably recorded Mountain ash was 114m, (The Thorpdale tree in 1881) and the largest Mountain Ash ever recorded was placed at 132m in 1872, called the Ferguson Tree. The largest reliably recorded Redwood were at least 122m, with two specific trees claimed to have reached 129m and 130m in Humboldt County in 1886 and Eel River, Scotia, in 1893 respectively.
I would say they "rival" each other. This is all a bit of a mute pissing contest, anyway, given that extensive logging in the past 200 years has OBLITERATED the largest trees in both areas, and since it takes hundreds of years for them to reach these heights, the currently living tallest trees of both specimens likely still only top out in the top 5% of height for their species, meaning there would have likely been many trees historically that were larger than recorded specimens of both species.
The reason for the pixelated Caspian Sea is simple:
In earth system science, precipitation maps are usually gathered from the output of numerical climate models (mostly atmospheric models but sometimes also coupled atmosphere-ocean-cryosphere models). These models deploy grids on which the calculation of the governing equations is performed. Missing data can then lead to these pixelated artefacts!
Another reason is the interpolation of precipitation data onto a regular grid. Again, missing data can then lead to some artefacts.
I hope this helps!
So your explanation for missing data is because there is data missing? I'm not sure that helps, no.
@@thulyblu5486 he explained why it is pixeled
Wow such simple. Never seen any explanation as simple as this 😂. How can someone not understand this day to day basic concept of such plain and simple terminologies? Dumb world we have it here.🤷
@GREENFOX i just thought it was naked
These high resolution precipitation maps are usually generated by downscaling other data sets, oftentimes more than one, and some contributing data sets may have gaps for many and various reasons. A coarser resolution numerical reanalysis may be combined with actual surface reports (rain gauge instrument records), and different countries have different standards and reliability of data collection. For an example of how this is done in the US, I recommend the excellent products from the PRISM project at Oregon State: prism.oregonstate.edu/
As a Costa Rican, I find it incredible how much we take for granted to be able to hike every weekend in so many different and beautiful rainforests at such a relatively short distance. Seeing in this video how rare this is makes me want to protect them even more
Costa Rica is so beautiful. My favorite country on this planet.
Costa Rica and Norway. Both equally impressive in different ways.
Iceland really is surprisingly the biggest example of human terraforming we have managed, any picture I have ever seen of iceland was without forest and trees, just barren moslands (Beautiful, no question) - but to learn that it was once a forest country and we barred the entirety of iceland was mindblowing.
Iceland never had a forest, it was simply too stony/bad soil and cold to sustain one, so this is misinformation by this youtube channel
@@the_loves_humans_guy in the 9th century 40% of Iceland was forested, today just 0.5% - this is a fact
u mean ireland?
Those were twisted birch forests. No spruce, pine, anything else. No trees taller than 2m. And yes, the tree line was around 300m ASL so it covered 25-30% of the island's area. These days you may see forests like that at some isles in Norway's Finnmark or at Russia's Barents Sea shore
Iceland had forests but the Norse cut all the trees down@@the_loves_humans_guy
I actually travelled to Northern Iran. It was amazing to go from dry mountainous terrain to dense lush rainforests.
same occurs in turkey
Good stuff!
@@koseku3 nope it doesn’t occur at all.
@@akinoz yes it does for example Ardahan Artvin border or karaman mersin
_Eucalyptus where_ _Koalas ate_
Whats cool about Chile is, that there are regions where it hasn't rained in decades in the Atacama desert while the Southern part of the Country recieves more rain than any other place. It has the dryest and the rainiest place outside of Antarctica.
A similar thing happens here in Argentina, very humid north, with some deserts, drier south. But at least we do see some of the precipitation from the Patagonian rainforests so western Patagonia can be humid as well, the east is extremely arid in comparison.
Long Chile is Long
@@LautaroArgentino i've been in both parts of the patagonia and is very beautiful. we chileans and argentinians have pretty awesome landscapes. saludos amigo desde chile.
Similar to the pacific north west where the forest within a few feet gives way to arid dry land with very little vegetation. Obviously not the same extent as Chile, but rain shadow effect the same thing.
@@jbach2002 i would love to go to the pacific coast of the usa, i have always tought its very similar to central chile climate
I grew up in the West Highlands of Scotland and even in the rest of Scotland no one knows that we have rainforest! It’s truly beautiful and rich in plant life but sadly lacking in wildlife. It’s so sad that so many artificial timber forests dominate the landscape
fellow scot here also finds it surprising how unknown our rainforests are, and tragic how much of the land is used for rich peoples sport rather than left as forest or even used for productive agriculture. I WANT MY RAINFORESTS BACK
I am from india. And we have a large sundarban rain forest.
There used to be a lot of wildlife there-bears, moose, caribou, mammoths. All wiped out by humans.
From texas here I find it strange do yall have bobcats and cougars in the uk because we have to watch our kids here
@@nathanieljernigan490 All the large(-ish) dangerous animals were wiped out from Britain a long time ago. There were wolves and bears and I forget what else. Nowadays, there are occasional escaped exotic pets often called ABCs -- "alien big cats".
Thank you for mentioning Colchic forest. It rarely drops below zero there, and it has been this way throughout the last ice age. That’s why it became home for many endemic broadleaf evergreen trees and shrubs, such as boxwood and yew. Technically, it is sub-tropical rainforest, very unusual for its latitude.
I have hiked near this area across the border in Turkey. Even in July it was very misty and humid below a certain altitude. Almost tropical levels of humidity, similar feel to a cloud forest in the tropics.
Portland, OR resident here. It's not the rocky mountains that causes such a harsh rain shadow, it's the cascade mountain range which is completely separate. Once you get over the cascade mountains it's all suddenly desert in eastern Oregon/Washington.
While the temp does drop lower here than say in tropical rainforests, the temp rarely goes below freezing and also rarely gets hot unless you're at high elevations. Moderate is the correct definition, hence temperate rainforest.
it is amazing how fast it goes from temperate rainforest to desert in eastern oregon. as a resident of bend or, the eastern side is visibly dryer from the west side, to the point you go from arid dusty desert to temperate rainforest in about an hour by going over the cascades
@@pizzaboiler Its also amazing how quickly things go from very temperate to very cold as you go up. Even a few hundred feet in elevation gain seem to make a difference. The climate zones of the PNW are just bonkers, you can get virtually subtropical in some regions and virtually polar in others.
think he just misspoke as he shaded the area west of the cascades.
Are the Cascades not a branch of the Rockies?
@@finnpeterson4335 nope, different range.
The place you forgot about are Azores and Madeira islands. There are even Fern Trees that grow there.
Yes
That's what I was thinking as well.
Yes and in my country, Spain, mainly in Galicia.
@@guillermo.mserrano he does talk about galicia
The southern part of Portugal also has small rainforests
I went to southwestern Ireland back in 2015, and found a small area of temperate rainforest. There were old oak trees that were completely covered in moss and such and everything was so densely packed. Very beautiful.
I live in Victoria, in southern Australia. It’s mostly eucalypt forests, but the little pockets of temperate rainforests are stunning. Fun fact, we have the world’s tallest moss growing in some of them.
I think the Japanese temperate rainforests deserve a mention too, they're quite beautiful and distinct from every other temperate rainforest on Earth
True but I think he went on about temperate rainforests enough. Plus no temperate rainforest could ever beat a tropical rainforest in any regard
@@somethung8188 except for colder temperatures
Not that I've been there, but Japan's forests are incredibly beautiful! Especially around Mt Fuji.
Yeah a lot of Japan was in the "red" for precipitation, meaning it would've been in the rainforest range. I think Japan should've been mentioned too. Not only that, but we also have Hokkaido which is the snowiest place on earth, likely due to the rainforest like conditions of Japan as well.
@@CBielski87 yeah maybe that........
I love that the one in Iran is in the thumbnail - I've looked at that place a lot on google maps, but there haven't really been videos on that. I would call it a near-perfect climate because it's not hot like the tropical rainforest, but also doesn't have the cold weather of the temperate rainforests of chile and the pacific northwest due to it's mid-range latitude.
I think it's called Tabarestan.
edit : it's actually Mazandaran.
edit 2 : both are okay.
@@meneither3834 Tabarestan is the archaic name for the eastern portion of the region. Nowadays (as in, for almost a millennium) it's Mazandaran and the western half is Gilan.
Edit: it's kinda like calling Taiwan Formosa, but twice older. People will know what you're talking about, but it's still a bit weird.
@CaptainWilliam then you will surely love the climate of Nepal which is mostly a sub-tropical rainforest. Not so hot and humid in the summer like tropical regions and not so cold in the winter (temp barely drops below 5 degree C ) but it does snows at higher altitudes.
Explains why that shit OP in EU4
Azores is also a really good climate
Northern Georgian here. The Appalachian Temperature Rainforest is one of the coolest natural environments I’ve personally experienced. I’ve spent many a summer weekend hiking and camping in it, and it is a beautiful environment. It’s cool to see other people talking about it, because in general it’s existence is almost unknown.
I live up in the blue ridge as well, but barely within the rainforest, so it only looks rainforest-esque about twice a year. When you see it it’s beautiful.
For the case of Scotland there was once a forest in place of the highlands, the caledonian forest, but too many deers and sheeps led this forest to almost disapear. And as soon as there is erosion in the highlands, there are tree stumps, the remain of this forest. And the area that forest once encompassed is nearly the same as the area with very high precipitations in Scotland.
It's hard to imagine that Antarctica was ever a heavily forested landmass.
imagine what strange frozen creatures we’d find beneath the icecaps
Very hard
It was im from there.
I Wonder if there Are and remains left under the ice
It's hard to imagine the Himalayas was once a beach
"I'm filming my face because I'm lazy"
Respect man.
I had a forestry prof at the British Columbia Institute of Technology who worked as a logging consultant in the Iranian rainforest. He gave a lecture one day with photos he’d managed to escape with-massive hemlocks and true firs that wouldn’t look out of place on the West Coat of BC, or “Great Bear Rainforest.” Yes, we students were surprised to learn that a rainforest actually existed in a country otherwise known for its extreme, inhospitable and sometimes deadly deserts.
But we were more enthralled by his story of escape when the Islamic Fundamentalist Revolution happened, American embassy personnel were taken hostage, and militants swept across the country. He was out on a mountain side when the radio cackled and he was instructed to return to camp immediately. Not unaware of the social tumult in the more populated areas for Iran, he wondered if he was to be arrested, detained and/or deported, or imprisoned and executed. As it turned out, he and other foreign forest workers were told to pack quickly and get on some helicopters to be lifted directly and immediately out for the country. All he could salvage were some clothes and his camera -where he saved his roll of photos of these massive Iranian rainforest stands. Pretty cool, man.
Otherwise, all the logging equipment was abandoned and lost.
Wow! That is an interesting story. Is he still teaching? Or on Van isle?
@@dlo111 he was a prof in 1985-about 45 years-old, I would guess, at the time so he’d be very old by now if he’s still alive (hoping he is and healthy too)
Cool that you mentioned Nothofagus. They truly have a southern hemisphere distribution. You can find Nothofagus in Chile, Argentina, Australia, New Zealand, and further north in New Caledonia and New Guinea.
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Hi, I am very impressed by the mention of the genus Nothofagus (the southern beeches) and the remnants of Antarctic flora.
Just a minor correction about Australia. The majority of the temperate rainforests of Australia are dominated by Eucalyptus sp., but the largest temperate rainforest in Australia (supposedly the 3rd or 4th largest remaining in the world) is the Tarkine in Tasmania. This rainforest, as well as other tracts around the island, is dominated by Nothofagus cunninghamii (myrtle beech), and is usually accompanied by Atherosperma moschatum (blackheart sassafras). Due to temperate rainforests usually being less diverse than tropical rainforests, Tasmania only has 2 species of Nothofagus compared to South America, N. gunnii being Australia's last remnant of deciduous Gondwanan flora. Australia's famous tropical Daintree meanwhile, is also the oldest rainforest (120 millions years old), and where songbirds first evolved.
What is classified as 'rainforest' in Tasmania gets 2,500 mm of rainfall, which removes fire as a part of the ecosystem (something which Eucalyptus requires). Going by the classification of rainforest in this video, what is classified as 'wet eucalypt forest' would qualify as well, with about 1,500 mm of rainfall. These thoroughly-ferned forests contain the highest (or 2nd highest) concentration of tall and giant trees, the largest being Eucalyptus regnans (mountain ash), where 'Centurion' is 100.6 m tall, and formerly the widest was (with 19 m girth) El Grande. The high rainfall is despite the relative minor scale of the mountains in Tasmania (only slightly higher than Scotland's). The most rainy place in the state is Mount Read (up to 4,000 mm), which is where the oldest Huon pine (Lagarostrobos franklinii) colony (about 13,000 years old) is located, where King's holly (Lomatia tasmanica) has an age of over 40,000 years -- around the time the earliest people of this latitude on Earth arrived.
The mossy Tarkine falls outside of the Tasmanian Wilderness World Heritage Area, which is one of the only (or the only) UNESCO World Heritage Sites to qualify for 7/10 classification criteria, on the planet. This is despite containing the same cultural and natural value, such as in the Franklin-Gordon Wild Rivers National Park, which also contains Nothofagus-dominated rainforest. The Australian government was the first developed country to request its delisting for resource exploration, as it has unfortunately restarted logging in the Tarkine for woodchip and paper, and has been continuing across the world's 26th-largest island.
[sighs] Yep. That last bit sounds like the kind of stupidity I've come to expect from politicians across Australia. I bet it was a coalition government that was responsible. They seem to be particularly bad at recognising when they've got something good already and just need to keep maintaining it.
Very interesting and thanks for sharing. I definitely need to visit Tassy now :) The Eucalyptus regnans sound amazing. Unfortunately here in Darwin we don't have old growth forrest but fortunately there're some remaining monsoon forrest which are amazing to visit. cheers!
Thankyou fellow Aussie, and possibly Tasmanian. I flinched when he talked about the Great Dividing Range being in Tasmania.
Indeed Antarctic Beech extend up to into Queensland's scenic rim area.
@@carlbennett2417 Same. I mean, sure, they are not big as far as mountains go, but calling them hills is a bit.. yeah.
i like botany people. good job!
In Australia, we have temperate rainforests in Victoria, Tasmania, New South Wales and Queensland which are all dominated by Nothofagus so I wouldn’t say this is 100% correct
Would the Karri tree forests down in Pemberton wa classify as a temperate rainforest?
@@drake1896 almost but no, because Karri forests do not get consistent year round rain, they have a wet season during the winter and much of autumn/spring and a dry season in the summer
@@BluemoonAG that makes sense
You should look up the Fray Jorge national reserve in Chile. It's valdivean rainforest but located in the north of Chile, surrounded by the Atacama desert, the most arid in the world. A pretty nice anomaly. It feeds of the morning fog, the Camanchaca.
Greetings from Chile :)
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You missed the strange rainforest of Dhofar on the Yemeni-Omani borders. A great example of rainforest which is bordering the Arabic Desert.
Not technically a rainforest, but still beautiful, too long of a dry season and most moisture is in the form of fog. Cool place that nobody seems to talk about though.
That place really does look very cool.
If not wrong,I know that forestsare not getting rain all year. They get dry in winter and getsmuson rains in the summer. So, not a rain forest.
I saw a documentary narrated by sir Attenborough, talking about that enchanted forest!!!
@@amirouchethelionofnumidia7092 Its not a rainforest, it only comes to life in the summer, apparently there is some sort of a spillover (not sure of the correct meteorological terms) from the Monsoon season of South Asia, so it just turns all green and lushy especially around the city of Salalah in Oman. Small patches of green lush are also found all over the Hajar Mountains in Northern Oman and Eastern UAE.
I live in a suburb of Abu Dhabi and the Rub Al Khali Desert is literally my backyard and it hardly rains over here. It just feels amazing to see green lush just a hundred kilometers from here.
I would definitely say Tsitsikamma Forest is definitely a rainforest. This is the forest that stretches from Storms River all the way to Knysna. Lots of huge ferns, moss, huge trees, rain, etc... The Outeniqua Mountains catch the vapour from the sea causing rain
Yes definitely! Knysna forest is temperate rainforest
When I met my birth father, a geographer, on Galiano BC, Canada he explained we were walking through a temperate rain forest. It was fascinating, moss everywhere!
As a chilean, I confirm that nothofagus are everywhere here (south central to austral Chile), I had not noticed how unique our flora is until I journed to georgia and saw the flora near atlanta and fort bening and thinking how "strange" and "alien" the forests looked like
Lengas
Coihues
Ñires
Robles
Son todos hermosos
I wish you could see the forest of Acadia in Maine, the landscape is straight out of the Triassic
@@mikelopez9071
Yeah
Same here as an Australian, very unique here
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Love Chilean rainforests!
"Rainforest have always been something you read about instead of experience, or that's what I assumed."
I've lived in the Australian bush and farmland all my life, and it turns out I was a short drive away from the subtropical Gondwana Rainforests the whole time. Its so incredible going from dry, open fields into dense, humid forests.
Its crazy how the wet rainforest starts out of dry land
@@introtwerp right? You'd never expect it. I suppose, though, a lot of places would have been rainforest before they were cleared, so maybe it's just returning to normal.
@@MorganHJackson i read that the aboriginal people constantly burned the land which made it grassland and eucalyptus only the mountain areas they left which stayed rainforests. In modern times rainforests is returning to those flat lands i guess
Some time ago, I read that a mature Douglas fir captures the equivalent of ~25" of annual rainfall just by catching/condensing the moisture in the air from fog and mist. The condensate drips down to the root system of the tree, and is taken up. This is in addition to the measured rainfall in the area. I have to assume this is similar for the coastal redwoods in CA and OR.
I heard the Giant Sequoia does the same trick, that's why this species has a very restricted biome (Sierra Nevada)
Redwood forests are populated by Douglas firs.
This is called "Evapotranspiration" :)
@@thenobalnacho Evapotranspiration occurs when plants use evaporation to pull fluid from the ground through their roots up and out of their leaves. This is not the same as described above, where the water originates from the air instead of the soil, and is just condensation.
They're basically the inverse of each-other, evapotranspiration transfers water from the ground to the air, and condensation transfers water from the air to the ground.
Called cloud stripping.
So, I think I can add a small note to this video at 11:27, also brought up briefly below:
Nothofagus trees CAN be found in the eastern Australian rainforests, especially in Tasmania. It's just that they are no longer the sole dominant tree, as Eucalypts can also be found here.
The eastern Australian rainforests are still remnant Antarctic ecosystems, but with Australasian admixture.
The Cascade Mountians are actually what contain the rain in the Pacific Rain Forest, not the Rockies.
That's exactly what I thought when he mentioned the Rockies. I live on Vancouver Island and therefore a little bit familiar with my rainforest and temperate rainforests in general.
Don’t forget about the Olympic mountains, which have the wettest valleys on the west side of the range, and on the east side a rain shadow valley with less than 25 inches of rain annually- the Sequim valley.
@@briangarrow448 At least he mentioned the Olympics in the video, if only briefly. Would have been nice to see more detail for sure
He went so far to avoid calling the climate zone Cascadia that he even mixed up the mountains
Before I moved to the west coast, I always called the entire mountain range over here the Rockies. Same with everyone else I knew where I lived. So when I'd look towards the mountains where I live now, it just made sense to say that I have a view of the Rockies near my place.
Mind you, the first time I said that to a local was the LAST time I ever called them the Rockies. Now I have 3 or 4 different names for what to call them, none of them are the Rockies anymore, and none of them are the Cascades (those mountains are about an hour's drive east of me, but still not the closest ones to me). For example, I live in view of the Coast Mountains, which is part of the Pacific Coast Ranges, which are part of the American Cordillera.
Nobody I knew out east knows any of those other terms though. Almost like the world calling The Netherlands "Holland", even though that's only part of the country.
Hey what about the rainforest on the eastern coast of russia? On the Kamchatka peninsula and the Shantar islands?
he missed it and also korea/japan, which also get as much rainfall
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Dude...
That'll make this video more than a hour long. Or worse, he had to split it in to several episodes.
yeah near vladivostak
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I would watch several episodes of forest spotlights.
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As a Patagonian, thanks so much for taking the time to explain the weather in our region in so much detail ❤️ I was born in the Atlantic/Dry region and was always jealous of how green it was just a few hundred kilometers to the west
Yeah, the Andes block a ton of rainfall from reaching dry Patagonia. Sure I'm glad the southernmost part reaches into probably among the rainiest places on Earth (an uninterrupted band of prevailing cool westerly winds with a ton of rain circling Antartica). Places south of 40 degrees south are not considered Mediterranean which have dry summers so you get year round rainfall and a lot of it too. Valdivia in Chile gets up to 2 meters of rain a year. The entire west side of the Southern cone catches a lot of rain from the westerlies, but the mountains limit how far the rainforests can go east. It would be interesting to see a large southern hemisphere temperate rainforest that goes down to 55 degrees south. It would rival the Amazon.
I only know as much as what was explained in the video. I imagine your climate to be similar to here in Nevada USA. California and the Sierra Nevadas absorb all the precipitation and the Great Basin is left dry. It is supprising how fast it goes from sage brush to pine trees. I used to joke there were trees cut in half at the state border.
@Pablo Vazquez just wanted to say hi from Canada. Pretty cool that we can do that now-a-days.
On the big island of Hawaii, you go from rain forest to temperate to outright desert in as few as Five miles. It's crazy.
No amigo alto capo
Nothofagus occurs in Australia as well with three distinct species, N Gunnii, N Moorie and N Cunninghamii.
Where in Australia?
@@ANTSEMUT1 Victoria and Tasmania for Cunninghamii, Tas for Gunni and NSW and Southern Qld for Moorei on the Great Divide.
Yeah I was going to say N gunnii dominates true temperate rainforests in Tasmania and Victoria along side pencil pine and huon pines.
@@FrogDriedPills thanks.
Having lived in Rio Grande, Puerto Rico with El Yunque Rain Forest as my backyard I can tell you we got way more rain than the rest of the island. It was crazy, you'd go outside and it was raining but drove 3 mins down hill and got on the main road to see sun light.
This channel is awesome. I just discovered it. I’ve always had this strange fascination with geography that I could never explain. I think it has to do with human sensory and experiencing different surroundings, etc. I just find it fascinating and the more diverse, the more interesting.
I think it's because you are male. Men tend to be far more interested in geography, probably from instincts we have of charting our territories, manage resources, food, water and so forth
I live in Bergen, Norway; commonly refered to, at least here, as the rainiest city in Europe. Taking a road-trip just a few minutes out of the city, and it indeed feels more jungle-esque than anywhere else I’ve ever visited. Always thought it was just childlike imagination; but it makes more sense now, seeing that I live in the last remaining big temperate rainforest in Europe. Great video! keep it up!
Azores and Madeira islands are the only left islands that have something that could be considered rainforests
in europe
@@ilyatravels i mean, sure..? The video did mention a west-norwegian temperate rainforest, but feel free to disagree I guess? I also specified "big", so those islands weren’t really part of the discussion either way if that makes sense?
Yeah I'm originally from Bergen and I don't miss it much at all. Shudder.
I visited Bergen once! It was, in fact, raining. But I'm from Southeast Alaska so I didn't really notice lol
I live in Dibrugarh,Assam ,North East India and rainfall is about 270 cm.The climate of Dibrugarh city is almost similar to Orlando USA except we have more rainfall!!!!!!
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Ive done 25 of the adirondack high peaks, there are some places up there, that without a doubt are relatively rainforests. Moss hanging off the trees, all kinds of mushrooms everywhere, so many different types of plants. Lots of snow makes it interesting for sure.
Your animations are great, I’m loving the continental drift sequences showing Antarctic isolation.
As someone who has spent alot of time in the northern Adirondacks, i would love a deeper dive into them.
Also i would not call them a rainforest, but those wetter patches are more like mini swamps with conifers and moss and soggy ground. (Note using swamp as a catch all for bog/swamp/fen) I think they are considered Taiga, like Canada's massive forrest.
Fun fact Adirondack means porcupine.
And getting run over by glaciers recently did not help biodiversity.
I thought "Adirondack" was a Mohawk phrase meaning 'bark eater/tree eater'?
@@sathivv950 i just checked and according to wikipedia (where i last got the translation) the name is derived from the Mohawk word "ha-de-ron-dah" which a french missionary recorded as "Rontaks" and meant "eaters of trees" and was used as a slur against other indians who did not practice agriculture and who would then be forced to eat treebark during some extra harsh winters.
So i think it would be easy to mistranslate it into porcupine since they also eat treebark, or the words could be synonymous since laguage is hard and english and Algonquin languages have basically no shared heritage. (Would be pre landbridge crossing)
And finding out it was a slur is hilarious.
Yep, I kinda repeated you by word, water pits, bogs, lol, then found your post. Yep, you right!
The "ack" ending is usually a dead giveaway that it's of Algonquian origin, though the Mohawk term was likely used & could just be a pun. Though, the way it's described, I don't really get it. The term was leveled at a tribe of Mohicans & they definitely were growing corn, beans & pumpkins. Probably melons, wheat & marijuana too, after contact with whites, at least. Eating of tree bark was a common survival technique, though.
Rainforest or not, the Adirondacks are beautiful and magical. Visiting from the Rockies, I was amazed by how lush the forests were in New York. Franconia Notch in New Hampshire was also impressive. Probably not wet enough to be considered rainforest, but by my standards all of New England is insanely wet.
I live in the Valdivian Rainforest and 2 weeks ago we had 400mm of rain in one day.
Wow, that's double what my city gets annually
That happens here in Catalonia too, but the diference is that when something like that happens, then you have to wait for the next year to have another good rain episode.
Y ahora hay sol pero esta para cagarse de frio
Sounds like Seattle last Sunday...
The video I keep getting back to regularly. Great work, professional graphics and overall writing. As a jungle obsessed person, this video is perfect in so many ways
I’m a geography teacher from Germany and I must say that your work is really impressive!
Japan might literally be the only region with high levels of precipitation (3:22 top right) that somehow didn't make the video. I feel discriminated :P
It's lots of snow, but still^^
He completely missed out all of east Asia and the indies too lol, but I guess the video was already too long enough to include them in detail
@@cumradej when talking about the Ganges in India he mentioned the SE Asian Rainforest which historically covers from the Ganges valley to Vietnam down through the islands of Indonesia. This forrest is heavily fragmented today due to human activity.
He missed out the alpine forests too by focusing only in the padan plane while in the prealps you can find heavy rains even in summer
(i once found myself in a whirlwind in august there)
Japanese forests aren't very authentic though. They cut almost all of it down and replanted it with the wrong trees making it not really biodiverse :( Maybe thats the reason he did not include it.
There are a lot of regions that were left out of the video. Not only Japan
What about Japan? There are quite a few pockets of temperate rainforest across the country.
Such as the Spirit of the Forest place in Mononoke? Is that considered rainforest?
@@marcgoncalis9802 I'd say so. That forest is based off of Yakushima, which averages over 4500 mm of rain a year. Even as far north as Hokkaido there are places that could be considered temperate rainforests too.
Scientifically yes but you're still a weeb
Why always Japan?? You are just a weeb.
@@mushmush4980 so is it wrong to ask a question if you are a weeb
Probably the best informative youtube channel available. Thank you for such great content.
It's always very fascinating when we get to learn just how complex things work on Earth and how interconnected everythings is, from the climate and the precipitation to how it determines the presence of life as well as the abundance thereof. So thank you for this very informative video.
OMG. You actually speak that way in real life. I thought the talking rhythm was a video thing
I think he does it for non-native English speakers.
I thought he was was a text-to-speech program until I saw him actually talking. 😆
Very similar to CGP Grey's intonation and rhythm! Coincidence? Local accent? Great videos anyway
He's reading
This is a video
Yes we’d love to see you visiting these “maybe-rainforests”! You have the best geology/geography channel on CZcams!
I really appreciate how you made sense about the different climates around the world. I live in Washington on the west coast and I know how rainy this place can get, but when you make sense of it by its climate I feel grateful where I live because it is a part of a rainforest climate, so thank you :)
The temperate rain forests of Ireland were predominantly deciduous trees covering the whole island, mostly Oaks & Ash. Scots Pine was the only pine variety to be found and not in large numbers. Sadly only tiny pockets of this once great forest survive today and the majority of the native wild animals that inhabited it are extinct like the wolf, bear & boar. Thanks for the video, I found it very interesting
I live in Tennessee, and I've seen a lot of pictures that claim to be of the forests in East Tennessee/ The Appalachians, that through reverse image searching I found out are actually from the Hyrcanian rainforest in Iran.
In this video, or pictures you’ve found in general that are supposed to be of the forests in East Tennessee?
It rains a lot here in East Tennessee
Personally the big barrier to calling it "rainforest" to me is speciation and specialization. Are there unique ecosystems in the Catskills, or is it just a wetter place for deer to forage?
Totally agree with this, and thought this would come up in the video. Great research of course, but your point is what I, a non-ecologist, think is crucuial to identifying rainforests.
No,
“Speciation”? “Specialization”? Are you going to claim the non-rainforests are being discriminated against, too? 😂
@@aaronhrynyk I have been trying to figure out WTF you're on about and am completely lost, sorry.
@@dataportdoll don't worry about them, they're just too deep into reactionary language they've lost the ability to communicate to outsiders
Wow I am amazed that you actually mentioned the Canadian rainforest in B.C . Most people in Canada don't even know we have a rainforest and are amazed when I tell them it's my favorite place to camp
I feel like Japan and other East Asian areas should have been mentioned too. Japan gets lots of rain annually (that is close to Rainforest definition) and in winter with Siberian high pressure blowing cold arctic air over a very warm Sea of Japan, the country can receive feet of snow. But in the south of country below the mountains most of the precipitation is rain year round as the mountains of Japan stop any cold air from getting further south.
LOVED the lizard's fail at the end, and your apologizing to him😂🦎🧡
"Atlas Pro turned me into a newt!"
Atlas Pro: "Oh, sorry little guy!"
I can’t stress how good this channel is, the effort you put in really shows it’s truly phenomenal. Also great job on vlogging in the forest! We love these type of videos 😊😊
you missed some areas in the middle east where I'm from, Lebanon where there is places that get up to 1800mm of rain a year (with snow also) where there is enough high mountains that ranges from 6500 ft to 10150 ft that catches air from the Mediterranean sea and convert it to rain mostly in late autumn winter and early spring where it rain and snows really hard!
Something very interesting to add: the east coast of Greenland once hosted a thin band of forests. The Norse settlers wrote about finding these woodlands. Modern archeology shows that the same settlement process in Iceland occurred at these settlements, resulting in the elimination of all trees.
"there's nothing cooler than a jungle"
Brazil: how about cow meat and soybeans?
You mean beef?
@@mysterious7215 you mean cow meat beef?
You mean money? :-p
You mean GOLD?
Africa: how about mining for precious metals?
Indonesia: how about palm oil?
Hi +Atlas Pro! Thanks for the great video! One note I'd like to add is, at 12:30 you seem to have called Alborz mountains in Iran Elbrus (a mountain in Caucasus) or a similar name. I may have misheard though. Anyway, looking forward to more videos by you! Cheers
Great idea, get out there and explore. I hope you can also travel to other rain forests as well to see differences in other rain forests.
I recently moved to Hawaii with numerous climate zones on this big island. Each deserves closer inspection by myself.
“Upstate New York”
*steamed hams flashbacks*
it's an Albany expression
They good asf tho
mAY i sEE iT?
@@andrewj3177 nO!
Aroura Borealis? At this time of year? Located completely in your kitchen?
I'm from Utica and I've never heard of steamed hams... (I actually live in the Utica area.)
So In Theory.... could seeds from plants millions years old be frozen in the ice of Antarctica and then once the ice melts from global warming some of these seeds start to grow into plants once again?
Seeds probably not but fungi yes
Well considering what the are doing with the seed bank in Svalbard, maybe it is possible 🤔
Just add a bunch of little water plants and shrooms in areas with high nitrogen
i doubt million year old seeds would be viable, but you'll start to get wind and water borne seeds washing up on shore, and if the temps are right they will sprout. Eventually other birds will show up, carrying more seeds in their poop, and it is possible we could see whole new kinds of forests down there. If there are humans left to see it.
@@geoffdb8118 the chance of seeds germinating out of ice are not high….
Same thing in North Western Tunisia. We don’t have rainforests per say but there is a very humid climate with around 1550 mm of rain in Ain Draham
Syracuse area resident here cool to learn you're from upstate the Adirondacks definitely feel like a rainforest been there in all conditions and its absolutely breathtaking
15:35
_"The only of its kind in the Spanish countryside..."_
* Angry Asturian noises *
Sierra de El Sueve has some small forests with those characteristics
@@imaojo2823 And La Gomera or El Hierro.
Or Euskadi and Navarra
Having grown up in the Adirondacks, then subsequently being stationed in the Pacific Northwest while in the military, I would not classify the ADKs as rainforest. The wetter areas tend to become bogs. Love the channel and all the videos, man! Keep them coming!
was just fishing in there a few weeks ago, near deer river
That must be similar to the UK. You dont hear about rain forest there but you do see alot of bogs everywhere
agreed. i’m from from the hudson valley but i spent a lot of my childhood up in the adirondacks!
Having hiked a ton in both the Catskills and the Adirondacks, I can say that the Adirondacks have a more definite 'rainforest' feel to them. Extremely lush, green areas with lots of mosses, ferns, etc. Low elevations in the White mountains have a similar feel
Grew up in the Adirondacks, but been living in Louisiana in the bayou for the last 6 years. It's cool to see my two homes get love (and rain!) in this video. Great vid as always!
Thank God I checked my phone for what time it is!
Ya
It is currently Atlas Pro'clock
Yes the Laurissilva
@@renzofamine8741 my favorite time
I actually really enjoy the bigger amount of "self" footage inside the videos, cause they just feel better, which is, most likely, because of your personality being just very warm and welcoming. It just fits. Keep that kind of ratio, because it really works and makes your videos all around even better than they were already!
I've lived most of my life in the Argentinian side of Patagonia near the Andes, a decently forested place but with desert just a couple miles away.
A couple months ago I crossed the border to the Chilean side for the first time, and I was amazed to see the Valdivian rainforest, hosting largest and most abundant plants I've ever seen immediately after crossing the mountain range.
I've just had recommended this channel
As a fan of geography I fell in love with it. Subscribed!
I love his smile. I love it even more because rainforests caused the smile.
Atlas Pro: "The Pacific Coast Rainforest, which cling to the *far Northwest* of North America."
The majority of Alaska: "Far Northwest? Am I a joke to you?" **cries in Yukon river** ;_;
In this case, I think it does qualify since the forest (or group of forests) does technically extend up to Alaska.
It's still more northwest than most of the Pacific Northwest.
This is the only channel where I watch an episode more than once.
Though I'm a close neighbour (from eastern Ontario) and have had the chance to hike in the very wet Adirondacks of upstate New York in the past, I'd have to point out that you left out the very wet coast of both Cape Breton in Nova Scotia and the even wetter south and east coasts of Newfoundland - which may also give you a good sense of what the disappeared Icelandic rainforests would have looked like.
The cause of high rainfall here (and I'm pretty sure more of it IS rain than snow, compared to the Adirondacks) has less to do with mountains and more to do with the fact that this is where the warm, humid air over the Gulf stream most often runs into arctic air masses and cold coastal currents heading south.
I feel compelled to post you a correction: There are still large pockets of Icelandic forests that survive to this day. They have not disappeared as you speak of but are growing fast with preservation. Take Skorradalur as a prime example. These are not and were never the kind of forests you showed in the video but low bushy-birch and Betula nana that can never be considered woods but rather a 1-2m high covering of crooked bushes and ferns.
I think he is referring to the fact that according to everything I have read, before norse settlement it is estimated that Iceland had 25-40% woodland cover (mainly birch), and now has 1.5% native woodland cover and .5% introduced woodland. So it's a generalization but your own wording is also a generalization (which to be fair is used alot in "nature/conservation types of topics). A good comparision would be how plenty of people say "American bison were wiped out" but I have also heard people say "there are large herds of bison that are growing fast with conservation efforts". I have heard both and both are true to an extent in both the Iceland forest and American bison examples (among probably many others)
I think it’s awesome you’re exploring this specifically from Upstate NY. I’m in Rochester and was literally just googling this week whether anywhere near here can be called temperate rainforest.
I’ve seen hilly “old-growth forest” very close to the shore of Lake Ontario that does not get as much rainfall as 1400 mm, but I have always wondered if there was another microclimatic effect happening. There is a lot of fog and as you mentioned snow fall in those areas. During the early summer they are extremely lush, lots of ferns and moss.
Just found out your channel and I'm binge watching all your videos. Hey, I live in a rain forest, the "Mata Atlantica" or Atlantic Rainforest as you called it, near the south litoral of Brasil, (it starts 30 miles from my home, but you got it...); great video!
As someone who just got back from a month and a half stau in the Tsitsikamma section of the Knysna rainforest, I can assure you it is a rainforest. From lush vegetation, abundant ferns and moss and a whole host of insects, birds and animals it looks and feels a lot like other rainforests I have visited. Needless to say camping there was quite a wet and moldy experience. 10/10
A vid like this about deserts would be cool, Dungeness in England being a cool example.
It still rains a lot there though, so can it really be considered a desert? Isn’t it more like a coastal single spit?
Or the Tabernas desert in Spain, probably the only actual desert in all of Europe (depending on what your definition of a desert is, I guess)
A lot of those forests are classed as an oceanic climate on the older biome maps, though rainforest honestly makes sense.
These micro-climates are fascinating within the scope of general forestry.
So happy that the tiny little red spot of my local rainforest was included on the map. In the Illawarra just 50km south of Sydney. The great dividing range is so close to the coast and the forest was so thick that it took 80 years for settlers to find a way through by land. The bush around us is stunning, and the beaches aren't bad either. I thought it might be too small to include.
Yes! Now I understand exactly why the Illawarra Escarpment is so rainforesty; the dramatic steep rising cliffline must be what brings about a high precipitation. I'm a Sydney-sider and i love how you can walk along the top of the Escarpment through the classic Australian dry eucalypt forest , then drop down the escarpment slope and unexpectedly you're in a dark jungle where there's not a breath of wind and barely any sun penetrates,and even the roar of the surf a hundred feet below is blocked by the dense foliage. There are palms, hanging vines, mosquitoes, leeches and the odd python. I always feel I ought to keep my voice to a whisper and tread softly without exactly knowing why. So magical.
Always thought of Scotland and Iceland as naturally bare grasslands but now I see that it’s just because of deforestation. Would be cool if some of these lost rainforests could be reforested and protected. Unlikely though cause I guess they were destroyed to such a degree that there’s little to start from. Cool video though. Magellanic and Greenland forests were unexpected.
I don't think sheep can be blamed for the deforestation that occurred in Iceland. Maybe the *people* who cleared the trees for the sheep, goats, and agriculture.
@@FLPhotoCatcherExactly. The devastated biospheres of Scotland and Ireland are 100% humanity’s fault. We destroyed those places.
During tours of Ireland and Scottland the tour guides told of how the Romans cut down a lot of the trees for ship building.
The problem with restoration is that 1. The most eroded areas which are now bare rock are considered beautiful and attract tourism and 2. Even if you were allowed to restore those areas you're starting from the worst conditions possible, zero top soil. It's possible but too much work. We best focus on easier areas that still have some top soil.
I don't think you know anything about Scotland. We have went from 4% tree cover to something like 19% in a only a decade or two. There are MASSIVE reforestation efforts here so it is not unlikely by any stretch of the imagination.
@@thevis5465 that is great to hear. Hopefully enough of the native biodiversity that existed prior to the heavy deforestation has persisted and is what is being used for this reforestation. Either way, it’s great that Scotland values reforestation even though the bare grass landscapes are attractive for tourism. I wonder if these forests include monoculture forestry operations, which do not provide a great service to biodiversity. I have seen this being used to bump up “conservation” efforts, even though it’s not really conserving the ecosystem, but instead just one species and a few related ones.
As a fellow New Yorker, in the Catskills, I too like to think that I live in a rainforest like environment. Most trees in my area were completely deforested during the industrial revolution, but now a hundred years on nearly everywhere in my county has lush forests and lakes everywhere. And occasionally while hiking, you can find old growth forests that are captivating!
Where
@@introtwerp The Catskills
I always joked that it's like a rainforest but now I'm convinced it really is.
We have nothofagus in Australia too, 3 different ones.
Also, much of Tasmania and the highlands of Victoria are covered in temperate rainforest. Different rainforest types the whole way up the east coast
tug hill plateau in upstate new york gets so much snow that it's what keeps it essentially a wilderness area since living there throughout the winter is really hard because of the lake effect snow from great lake ontario
imagine walking in the woods and hearing "Ok so I'm back in the woods because today we're talking about forests"