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Canoeing The Red Deer River - Ya Ha Tinda To Forestry Trunk Road
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2022
- Canoeing the Red Deer River. Put-in at the Bighorn Campground in Ya Ha Tinda and paddled 26 km to the Forestry Trunk Road near the Mountain Aire Lodge. Flow was 30 cms at the Above Panther River station. July 24, 2022. Hope you enjoy!
Stunningly beautiful!
Awesome, beautiful little river to run blue sky clean waters. What more can you ask for job well done Nick Meister
It really was a great day. The weather was perfect, and the water was great... probably good trout fishing in there. Thanks very much Martina.
Had a cabin here growing up. We'd be there every summer after may long sometimes go earlier to watch the river at spring melt. It was wild.
Yeah it's a beautiful area. Sounds like a great place for a cabin!! Spring melt would be impressive to watch, a lot of power in that river. Thanks for watching, take care.
I love waking, brewing up a coffee ... sitting down with the iPad and see a notice that you have posted a new video. Always makes for the best coffee. This stretch of the Red Deer River is one of the most picturesque you've done ... what a spectacular vista in the early going, with the blue skies and sun upon the mountains. Looks like you had a perfect day on the water.
Hey thanks very much Robbie, I'm glad you enjoyed your coffee. Yes, this was the Red Deer River leaving the mountains and entering the foothills, and made for some nice views. The morning was indeed spectacular with the blue sky, and the day was very nice overall. Thanks for taking the time, take care.
Another Great Paddle & Love Them Views, Thanks Nick, From Down East ! ATB T God Bless
Thanks very much Terry. Glad you enjoyed my friend. Take care.
Got some serious tree hazards on that river.....thanks for posting.
Definitely have to keep your eyes open. Thanks for watching Jerry.
that campground starting point is so beautiful with all the green grassy areas.... looks like a strong flow in that river, fun ride! always love seeing a confluence, looks like it got even stronger flow after that... and the scenery at the end got pretty neat again too great trip thanks for taking us along
Thanks very much Thorn. Yes it is a very nice area. The natives that originally inhabited the area called it Ya Ha Tinda, which translates to "prairie in the mountains". There is lots of flat, grassy land which makes it very popular with the horse crowd. The national parks of Canada winter all of their horses here too. Thanks for taking the time.
@@nickharland3795 neat info about the horses thanks
Thanks for another great video. Those log jams looked a little intimidating. Interesting to see the burnt out area, not too old. This section I’ve only padded once as we usually do the Panther on that upper area. The bridge down to Coal Camp has been our usual play area for years however this video has made me think, it’s time to do that section again. 💚 your videos.
I was just going to say that those log jams looked scary and then I read the above comment. I agree with the sentiments expressed.
Thanks very much Priscilla. Yes, there was quite a few sweepers and strainers in the first 2/3's of the run. The burn area is around the halfway point, but nice to see the regrowth coming in. The river run between the bridge and Coal Camp has been on my mind for a couple years now. Gooseberry Ledge and Double Ledge concern me. I have watched your whitewater symposium videos, and your double ledge video. It looks like quite a section.
Perfect timing. I will be going down the river in a couple of weeks. Very useful!
My pleasure. I hope you have a great trip. After the bridge, the river has many class III rapids and river-wide ledges.
Great day on the water . Glad your getting out there. Nicely Done.
Thanks very much Darrell. Trying to get out as much as I can... it has been a good summer so far.
Great video Nick - as always... Back in the 70's some friends of mine and I used to canoe that reach of the Red Deer often. You must have been in fairly high water. There was a narrow chute west of the bridge that was tricky at low water. My old Grumman 17 took quite a beating going through it if you didn't hit it just right. I had my nose pinned to the computer screen but didn't see it - thus my comment about you must have had high water. Thanks for the videos - they get the blood flowing and the memories churning in us old guys :) Down stream of the bride is some great paddling.
Michael Bradley
Thanks very much Michael. I think the water was up some.. though it was my first time paddling there. I had no issues with shallows or rocks, so it seemed like a good flow. All rapids/chutes or anything of excitement generally makes it to the video, so the spot you are thinking of must have been washed over. I'm glad these get the memories churning :) I had a quick look at a couple of the ledges between FTR and Coal Camp, and hope to paddle in there soon. I am considering meeting up with other paddlers for this section... my first time anyhow. Gooseberry Ledge and Double Ledge have me a little concerned. I'm nervous about that stretch, but at the same time, anxious and excited to get it done. Thanks again for the comment Michael, take care.
Nice finishing move!
Thanks again Ian. This was a nice introduction to this river... much larger rapids are downstream from this take-out. Thanks for watching, take care.
Another great run.. cheers Nick
Thanks very much Jim. It was a very nice day out there. I hope to paddle more of the Red Deer River. Cheers.
Looks like the River Sticks with all those post everywhere. lol Sneaky little diagonal ledge there could cause a problem. Nice run Nick.
Yeah there was a major fire that burned through there a few years back. Yeah it was a pretty flat run, except for that ledge. I didn't take the nicest line over it, but managed to stay out of trouble. I'm hoping to paddle the section downriver of this one soon. Thanks again for watching, take care.
Great trip thanks Nick. I am down in Oregon and its 102 F .
Thanks for watching Kim. Wow, that's hot!! Take care.
Hey Nick. Great video as always. Do you hitchhike back to your truck. I'm thinking of doing this river with my pack raft, but starting further upstream, near the Warden Rock outpost.
Hey thanks Marty. I used my mountain bike to shuttle myself. From what I've read, there will likely be some class III rapids and ledges in the stretch from Warden Rock. It looks like the river eases up as you get closer to Bighorn campground. I hope to paddle in there next year.
That did look a lot of fun, got to admit though when I saw the title I assumed it was an excited 'Ya Ha!' Lol.
It was relaxing for the most part, just a few rapids in the second half. All in all, a very nice day of the water. The river gets much more intense after the bridge, and I hope to try that stretch soon. Thanks for taking the time.
Hi Nick how are you.....thank you for this moment, always beautiful landscape, superb river...your friend from France.
Hi Tom. I am doing good, and hope you are too. It was a nice trip in a very nice part of the province. I hope you are getting lots of time in your canoe. Take care.
Once again so good to be along.
Thanks so much. Glad you could come along.
Beautiful Nick, to close for comfort with the wood pile. Thanks for sharing my friend. Thought of Roy this time, our honorary member of the odd people on the water canoe club. Mis his comments 😄
Thanks so much Udo. Yeah that one log pile almost got me, I underestimated the current there. But otherwise, it was a very nice day on the water. I miss Roy's comments too. He had quite a sense of humor, and always made me laugh when reading his comments and replies. Take care Udo.
The seanery and the water quality is spectacular
There are very nice views as the river leaves the mountains and enters the foothills. And the water is beautifully blue. Thanks for watching.
Nice run Nick, I have not been down there since my days as a forestry patrol officer when the " Dog Rib fire" over ran us and we had to do a rapid helicopter evacuation. Nice to see your footage and the new forest regrowth. My rear end puckered up a bit when you scraped by the log jam. Being the wild portion of the river it is never the same. You had a good flow rate on that day. As always, like your video's Keep your canoe shinny side down.
Thanks very much Rick. Yeah definite fire damage in there, but it is regrowing nicely. I was surprised by how many trees were in the river, more than a few log piles. That one almost got me :) It was my first time paddling the Red Deer, and I think the flows were good. Thanks for taking the time, take care.
Love your videos! We did a couple afternoon trips on the Sturgeon in past few weeks. Heading for the McLeod this weekend, Rosevear to 32.
Thanks very much Maygan. I hope you have a great time on the McLeod River!!
Looks like a nice river I might have to do a trip
This is a pretty tame stretch for the upper Red Deer River. After the FTR bridge, there are many class III rapids and river-wide ledges. Thanks for watching Matthew, take care.
Great takeout.
Thanks very much Douglas.
i live in red deer but our river isnt as good as this one haha
Yeah it's definitely more wild and pristine to the south and west, down by Sundre. Thanks for watching. Take care.
Never been on that Section of the Red deer. Good to see it.👍
Thanks for checking it out. Probably a bit tame for your liking, but a nice scenic float for most of it. I hope to paddle the section from the bridge to Coal Camp, but am weary about doing it alone. I have to familiarize myself with those ledges and rapids.
Amazing. Do you have any trips planned for the summer?
This is a very nice part of Alberta, and the Red Deer River is a beauty. Well, I just got back from one trip, and have a few more in mind. No specific plans yet though. Thank you for watching Les, take care.
Alberta is beautiful. The closest I've ever been is when the Banff Film Festival comes to Boone, NC.
We are lucky to have the Rocky Mountains in western Alberta. The mountains and foothills provide some excellent canoeing. North Carolina has some real beauty too!! Thanks for checking it out.
I have recently found your videos Nick and have started binge watching them. I love your videos! Have you ever paddled this route in higher water. Was just wondering what it would be like in mid June?
Thanks so much Tammy, I'm glad to hear you are enjoying them. This video was taken in late July, 2022 and the flow was 30 cm/s at the Above Panther River station. I would call it a very healthy medium flow. I paddled it again in early July 2023 at a lower flow and it was much different. The rapids were much more distinct and it was a wetter ride. This trip video at 30 cm/s, the rapids were more washed out it seemed. High water would have it's own challenges, namely fast corners with sweepers. I hope that helps, take care.
@@nickharland3795 It does Nick. I am taking a few people for their first white water trip and think early July would be best for them on this river. or do you think it would be too much for them and can suggest another place to take them. They all have done many hours each in slow river paddles and lake paddles.
I will assume you are talking about open canoes? If their fundamental strokes are already strong, then this can be a good stretch for introductory whitewater. There are a few ledges and some fun class II rapids, with plenty of spots to work on maneuvers. In my experience, it was more exciting at the lower flow. I hope you have a great trip!
@@nickharland3795 Yes open canoes and a couple kayaks
@@nickharland3795 That's wonderful that there are a few places to work on maneuvers. Extra Bonus!!!
We went on the Red deer river on a river float from Trenville campground to McKenzie crossing south of Delburne 2 weeks ago. 2 hours on a costco pacific floaty island lol
Nice!! That sounds like a great time. Haha, doesn't matter about the watercraft, the important thing is to be on the river.
The red deer river is a pretty fun river to be on for sure!
It's a beautiful river. Downstream of the bridge things get much more intense. Thank you for watching.
Hi Nick. Did you scout the ledge at 7:41? How did you know to stay left? I saw the way once you went over and just wondering if you somehow read river clues to take that side?
Hi Cindy. I did not scout that ledge. I knew from my guidebook that there was a diagonal 0.5m ledge. I zoomed in on it on google Earth and was confident it wouldn't be too much of a problem. I did not choose the best line though, as I bumped a rock or two on the way over the ledge :) Thanks for watching.
Hi Nick thanks for posting. I was wondering what time of year you went and what the flow rates were? Also what guide books would you recommend for this river?
Hey no problem, it is my pleasure. Thanks for watching. This video was taken on July 24 and the flow was 30 cm/s at the Above Panther River Station. "Mark's Guide for Alberta Paddlers" has good descriptions and beta for the Red Deer River.
Ran this river down to the camp grounds on river left couple years back, the ledges and rapids get bigger and bigger. Past the FTR i swear we went over a class 4. Fun river but be prepared and careful!
Thanks Terri. Yeah I plan on canoeing from the FTR bridge to Coal Camp soon. I have read all the literature about the river, and seen plenty of pictures and video. A couple of the ledges concern me, but anxious to try. I hope to get a couple days to learn and familiarize myself with that stretch. Maybe some paddling partners too.
About how long did this take?
I think it was 4 or 5 hours.
I'm sure you do your research but I'd like to share one specific piece of info if you ever try to do the next sections below there.
The next section has a bunch of ledges but one in particular is a 5 or 6 foot wide river wide ledge that is kind of blind right below a smaller ledge.
It sneak up on you and while easy at low water in a raft I would think you wouldn't want to hit it in a canoe at any levels, but you would at least want to take a look first.
Also in the following section there even more ledges and one rapid in particular is a double ledge at slightly different angles... and they are pretty decent drops.
Love your videos... keep on paddling!
Thanks Jeremy. Yeah I have read all the guidebooks and reports of the stretch between the FTR bridge and Coal Camp. Gooseberry Ledge and Double Ledge do have me concerned, but I would like to try them in a canoe. I will likely take a few days to familiarize myself with the rapids and ledges, and hopefully can find a paddling partner or group to join for this. Thanks for the comment, take care man.