@petitewhitegirl While true, I will bet you 99% of SUV drivers never take their car off the road and would be much better suited with a wagon instead of an oversized SUV.
Everyone keeps on about the small wheel. It’s great and there is no problem seeing the instruments unless you deliberately line the wheel up to do that. I have had a 2008 SUV and at the moment a 3008 SUV. All I say is sit in it and if you can’t get comfortable don’t buy it. I love the position and have no problem with seeing the dials.
@@peterhess6039 if it was used in relation to how the car is tuned, no problem watched one video and the comment made was the headlining was black cause it was sporty, wtf, and who thought black headlining was a good idea in the first place
I still cannot believe Australians refuse to let go of this power play that they think is the number one thing in Australia. Sadly the same bogans still can't/won't understand why there is no auto manufacturing anymore in this country. The world changed years ago and we need to catch up. The fact that Peugeot are sold in over 160 countries worldwide says more about Aussies than it does Peugeot. Great and honest car review by the way.
That moment when he says no room in the back seat when his knees are in the back of the front seat. Fairly obvious the front seat is pushed back and reclined back😂😂😂
Another great and fair review Curt. Crazy that the obsession with SUVs has limited our choice of well-sorted wagons like the 308. Such a shame that we've abandoned any semblance of manual gearboxes in Euro cars that are well-sorted for them. Mazda3 seems to be the last man(ual) standing from entry level to the Astina G25 (which I own) and offers excellent drivability not to mention impressive average fuel consumption (5.8l/100 over 35000km, virtually all on highway and rural roads). Not sure if I'd commit to another French, let alone European, car these days though the dream is kept alive in my 1974 DS 23 Pallas! Happy motoring to you and the team in 2023, Antony.
Dropping the 1.6 turbo was an unfortunate decision. I have found that the smaller steering wheel and the above wheel view of the instrument panel in my GT 308 (1.6 turbo) have given me the most comfortable and commanding driving position of any car I have driven.
Very handsome car. Writing checks that the engine can't cash though sadly. Shoulda stuck with the 1.6 turbo, even only making the same 200 horses as the old 308 GT would have been just fine.
It appears that this reviewer is not as enamoured with this 308 as Tom was with the hatch a few weeks ago. I think it has a lot going for it , although being fully loaded the price reflects this. I’m not sure why Peugeot didn’t use the more powerful version of this motor as in the 2008 and I think this will be a problem for the Australian market. It is certainly more attractive and a better drive than the Mk8 Golf and deserves to do well. For Peugeot enthusiasts out there, they will love it.
Tom here. The extra 184kg (as tested) moved by the same 96kW doesn’t help! You can just about get away with it in the hatch if you keep it on the boil but the wagon is 1476kg actual…
@@chasingcars Hi Tom, I have driven the hatch and the performance is ok but what impressed me was the ride and handling. It's a pity that the wagon will suffer with that extra weight as it has a lot going for it both in style and practicality.
Had one for the weekend to evaluate >>> and I had a mental block on the engine tbh Im 100% sold just love it and has amazing tech , no issue for me 180cm with the wheel im fact i enjoy the go kart vibe , yer I guess I wish it had the 1.6 which I have enjoyed but the sound system is top notch too >> Im sold and hard to please
I have a 307 2.0L Petrol wagon with 103kW (138HP) and I leave most people standing at the lights. Partly due to the tiptronic gearbox, which is quick off the mark. It's 1400 kg, so slightly heavier than this 308GT. Power is good enough, but when you load it up with four adults and baggage, you do feel the weight. It'll kick down gears so you can pass anything doing less than 130kph without any drama. I think people protest too much about the lack of power. However, I'm also old enough that I too would hesitate to buy a 1.3L... even in a motorbike!
I test drove the hatch a couple weeks ago, surprisingly torquey given how low the outputs are. On the whole was a very nice driving car, the touch screen and the digital instrument cluster would take a bit of getting used to over a couple weeks of initial ownership but not too bad. Having the steering wheel sit low in my lap was nice.
I want to love it- there is very little choice in the small station wagon segment now Golf wagon will not be continuing here. I am at least interested enough to grant it a test drive when I am next in the market. But to me an underpowered wagon doesn't make sense. The fuel figures don't seem much better than a Golf/Skoda 1.4L. I like the quality look of the interior, but the angular dash treatment and the instrument cluster/wheel arrangement seems to be something "only the French would think of".
To keep the dealership’s in business and keep the sales numbers ticking over a sub $40k variant would help… Importer inchcape also missed out on sales when going with the Peugeot Partner van over it’s Berlingo sibling as the Berlingo has a regular dash-steering wheel…
An engine this weak can't overtake with a full load. Unsafe, and unacceptable on our shoddy roads. Drive from Sydney to south coast in one of these and feel the regret when you're stuck behind trucks and grey nomads on hilly, largely single lane 'highway'. Nah. I won't be buying Pug again
Great review, I’m super disappointed in the power output and they could have avoided chasing that boot load by making the rear seat more comfortable, and yes, the steering wheel. I’m someone who will buy a wagon as long as there’s a good one to buy, but this needs the engine from the 508, otherwise it’s over to Skoda to replace my Megane GT wagon which is better than this car, but just aging. Such a shame because I love its looks.
Good review (not great but still good) Who the hell immediately moves the steering wheel to the top... who is most likely Chasing cars reviewers . Move the steering wheel to the position that suits your driving and then if it blocks your view of the instrument panel get another car. However, simply automatically moving the stering wheel UP because.... well, because for no reason, move it to accomodate your driving position... no more, no less
I love wagons, wagons 6 days a week, the 7th reserved for a favorite coupe. But Peugeots are over styled and pretentious in the way they look. But wagons are cool, so it is a dilemma. : )
3 cylinder turbo? What a stupid choice but figures it's Stellantis. If this had a turbo four cylinder and a better price it'd be imho the best car on the market with the hatch. The 208 is a much much better value so I would just take that any day over this.
love the look and practicality of the wagon but without the focal stereo and the same 1.2l meant I opted for the premium hatch instead. This would work well as a PHEV though
Huge miss for Peugeot here. Shame, if they had of used a bigger and more 'sporty' engine to compete with the VW and Skoda wagons then they would been a real market distributor
At 8.32 minutes I thought if you were driving from Adelaide to Darwin what would be better for comfort and humans in the back? A VF Sv6 Sportwagon or this toy car. Not quite the tech (does the toy car have heads up display?) If GM were here now cars like this would be irrelevant. I had a Sportwagon 8lts per 100 Adelaide to Melbourne and you could actually overtake quickly and safely. Yes I am a dinosaur but this car is a joke. Over 10k dearer than the Commodore was for a, bugger cannot find the words to describe it. "It" be the operative word. Ps Peugeot should have hired some of the out of work Holden designers
I was looking forward to this car arriving so I can buy it. But $55k for a tiny engine, what a joke. Peugeot should have equipped the 165kW hybrid engine instead. What a shame, this wagon will flop.
The styling doesn't do it for me both inside and out. The engine is way too small and the steering wheel ,instruments relationship is stupid. The omission of a rear seat centre armrest is a mistake detracting from the supposed premium feel and design. If there's a diesel version, that would be the one to go for with it's potential extra torque.
What a missed opportunity. For a brand that doesn't sell many cars and that looks to be making an effort to change that going by the looks and effort in the interior why oh why would they sign off on that underpowered power plant? Just crazy. And same with the steering wheel and lack of leg room in the rear how does that get through all the engineering meetings and get the tick of approval..
By this rate, we’ll end up paying 6 figures for a premium sedan, not even fully equipped…. Quite sad actually. Also sad is that NONE of the reviewers points this trend out! No even 1!
Not worth the money for a whipper snipper engine. Even more grossly overpriced is the 508 wagon with its tiny motor and front wheel drive. Looks great though, i dig both wagons, great review
Peugeot have been off my shopping list since the implementation of the "peer over" steering wheel. It's infuriating, totally non-functional and a definite dealbreaker. The lion doesn't roar in Australia, he hardly purrs, Joe.
Wagons have everything a person can need in a car.
@petitewhitegirl While true, I will bet you 99% of SUV drivers never take their car off the road and would be much better suited with a wagon instead of an oversized SUV.
parking in city.
Everyone keeps on about the small wheel. It’s great and there is no problem seeing the instruments unless you deliberately line the wheel up to do that. I have had a 2008 SUV and at the moment a 3008 SUV. All I say is sit in it and if you can’t get comfortable don’t buy it. I love the position and have no problem with seeing the dials.
Can we ban the use of the word "sporty" it's become meaningless and very very rarely does it relate to cars
Yes, sporty=uncomfortable=no buy.
@@peterhess6039 if it was used in relation to how the car is tuned, no problem
watched one video and the comment made was the headlining was black cause it was sporty, wtf, and who thought black headlining was a good idea in the first place
I still cannot believe Australians refuse to let go of this power play that they think is the number one thing in Australia. Sadly the same bogans still can't/won't understand why there is no auto manufacturing anymore in this country. The world changed years ago and we need to catch up. The fact that Peugeot are sold in over 160 countries worldwide says more about Aussies than it does Peugeot. Great and honest car review by the way.
That moment when he says no room in the back seat when his knees are in the back of the front seat. Fairly obvious the front seat is pushed back and reclined back😂😂😂
I have this engine in a 3008 (mid sized suv) and could take it fully loaded through the atlas mountains of Morocco. No issues whatsoever.
where you set the steering wheel is not in the normal position. You set it at the very top. That's not where it goes :)
Another great and fair review Curt. Crazy that the obsession with SUVs has limited our choice of well-sorted wagons like the 308. Such a shame that we've abandoned any semblance of manual gearboxes in Euro cars that are well-sorted for them. Mazda3 seems to be the last man(ual) standing from entry level to the Astina G25 (which I own) and offers excellent drivability not to mention impressive average fuel consumption (5.8l/100 over 35000km, virtually all on highway and rural roads). Not sure if I'd commit to another French, let alone European, car these days though the dream is kept alive in my 1974 DS 23 Pallas! Happy motoring to you and the team in 2023, Antony.
Dropping the 1.6 turbo was an unfortunate decision. I have found that the smaller steering wheel and the above wheel view of the instrument panel in my GT 308 (1.6 turbo) have given me the most comfortable and commanding driving position of any car I have driven.
u can have it but in the hybrid version.
Very handsome car. Writing checks that the engine can't cash though sadly. Shoulda stuck with the 1.6 turbo, even only making the same 200 horses as the old 308 GT would have been just fine.
The PHEV version of the 308 SW comes with the 1.6 turbo 4 cylinder
you're not meant to put the steering wheel in the normal position, it's designed for it to be lower thus the smaller wheel.
I’m 5’8 and have no problem seeing the display over the steering wheel.
great review this. no gimmicks. fair, concise content. thanks
It appears that this reviewer is not as enamoured with this 308 as Tom was with the hatch a few weeks ago. I think it has a lot going for it , although being fully loaded the price reflects this. I’m not sure why Peugeot didn’t use the more powerful version of this motor as in the 2008 and I think this will be a problem for the Australian market. It is certainly more attractive and a better drive than the Mk8 Golf and deserves to do well. For Peugeot enthusiasts out there, they will love it.
Tom here. The extra 184kg (as tested) moved by the same 96kW doesn’t help! You can just about get away with it in the hatch if you keep it on the boil but the wagon is 1476kg actual…
@@chasingcars Hi Tom, I have driven the hatch and the performance is ok but what impressed me was the ride and handling. It's a pity that the wagon will suffer with that extra weight as it has a lot going for it both in style and practicality.
Had one for the weekend to evaluate >>> and I had a mental block on the engine tbh
Im 100% sold just love it and has amazing tech , no issue for me 180cm with the wheel im fact i enjoy the go kart vibe , yer I guess I wish it had the 1.6 which I have enjoyed but the sound system is top notch too >> Im sold and hard to please
I have a 307 2.0L Petrol wagon with 103kW (138HP) and I leave most people standing at the lights. Partly due to the tiptronic gearbox, which is quick off the mark. It's 1400 kg, so slightly heavier than this 308GT. Power is good enough, but when you load it up with four adults and baggage, you do feel the weight. It'll kick down gears so you can pass anything doing less than 130kph without any drama. I think people protest too much about the lack of power. However, I'm also old enough that I too would hesitate to buy a 1.3L... even in a motorbike!
96kW is not 201hp...x1.34 to get hp from kW.
Anyone else remember Curt from his editor time at Speed? That's going back.
Digging the “Lion Face” of modern Peugeots. Compelling at $55k DA. Not many competitors in this space, no?
I test drove the hatch a couple weeks ago, surprisingly torquey given how low the outputs are. On the whole was a very nice driving car, the touch screen and the digital instrument cluster would take a bit of getting used to over a couple weeks of initial ownership but not too bad. Having the steering wheel sit low in my lap was nice.
I want to love it- there is very little choice in the small station wagon segment now Golf wagon will not be continuing here. I am at least interested enough to grant it a test drive when I am next in the market. But to me an underpowered wagon doesn't make sense. The fuel figures don't seem much better than a Golf/Skoda 1.4L. I like the quality look of the interior, but the angular dash treatment and the instrument cluster/wheel arrangement seems to be something "only the French would think of".
To keep the dealership’s in business and keep the sales numbers ticking over a sub $40k variant would help…
Importer inchcape also missed out on sales when going with the Peugeot Partner van over it’s Berlingo sibling as the Berlingo has a regular dash-steering wheel…
96kw. And Peugeot is going to wonder why it does not sell. Such a shame
An engine this weak can't overtake with a full load. Unsafe, and unacceptable on our shoddy roads. Drive from Sydney to south coast in one of these and feel the regret when you're stuck behind trucks and grey nomads on hilly, largely single lane 'highway'.
Nah. I won't be buying Pug again
OMG, it look soo good on the rear.. freaking love it.. 1.2T 200hp? wow..
Typo. It's not 200hp
That Peugeot looks much better than a Skoda Octavia. Much more premium.
Shame they don't offer the diesel in aus, suits a family car better than that a 3 pot
They should've cut some length out of that massive boot to add more space to back seats...
Great review, I’m super disappointed in the power output and they could have avoided chasing that boot load by making the rear seat more comfortable, and yes, the steering wheel. I’m someone who will buy a wagon as long as there’s a good one to buy, but this needs the engine from the 508, otherwise it’s over to Skoda to replace my Megane GT wagon which is better than this car, but just aging. Such a shame because I love its looks.
Can you tell me if because of the 3-cylinder engine, there is any vibration at idle?
96kW is not the 201hp you have listed in the "driving" segment (google says 128hp)
and the 230Nm is 169lb ft (also from google)
Thank you was about to say the same!
Good review (not great but still good)
Who the hell immediately moves the steering wheel to the top... who is most likely Chasing cars reviewers .
Move the steering wheel to the position that suits your driving and then if it blocks your view of the instrument panel get another car. However, simply automatically moving the stering wheel UP because.... well, because for no reason, move it to accomodate your driving position... no more, no less
@chasingcars, how in the world is 96kw 201 hp?
128 horsies
I love wagons, wagons 6 days a week, the 7th reserved for a favorite coupe.
But Peugeots are over styled and pretentious in the way they look.
But wagons are cool, so it is a dilemma. : )
Glad someone else thinks this about Peugeot designs. Everyone keeps raving on about how good looking they are but I disagree completely
@@BennnWJK 👍
3 cylinder turbo? What a stupid choice but figures it's Stellantis. If this had a turbo four cylinder and a better price it'd be imho the best car on the market with the hatch. The 208 is a much much better value so I would just take that any day over this.
love the look and practicality of the wagon but without the focal stereo and the same 1.2l meant I opted for the premium hatch instead. This would work well as a PHEV though
Can someone tell why 96kw = 201 HP
Is that 150kw = 201hp?
Whoops. 128hp.
If you can’t see the instrument panel then why is the car legal to sell.
Huge miss for Peugeot here. Shame, if they had of used a bigger and more 'sporty' engine to compete with the VW and Skoda wagons then they would been a real market distributor
looks like the wagon makes a great case for an SUV at this price with more practicality and a better drivetrain
Some ahhhhh interesting driving at 6:05
Vehicle testing centre so on a private road.
Private test track
What’s with the massive boot space but absolutely no room for your passengers in the second row
Good review, but...ummm.... WHAT THE? Since when is 96kw = 201hp? 1.2lire 3 cylinder is ridiculous... should have the 1.6 in it.
My goodness, that is the most angular interior that I have ever seen.
see lamborghini then
At 8.32 minutes I thought if you were driving from Adelaide to Darwin what would be better for comfort and humans in the back? A VF Sv6 Sportwagon or this toy car. Not quite the tech (does the toy car have heads up display?) If GM were here now cars like this would be irrelevant. I had a Sportwagon 8lts per 100 Adelaide to Melbourne and you could actually overtake quickly and safely. Yes I am a dinosaur but this car is a joke.
Over 10k dearer than the Commodore was for a, bugger cannot find the words to describe it. "It" be the operative word.
Ps Peugeot should have hired some of the out of work Holden designers
I was looking forward to this car arriving so I can buy it. But $55k for a tiny engine, what a joke. Peugeot should have equipped the 165kW hybrid engine instead. What a shame, this wagon will flop.
Sadly, as a Pug owner I have to agree
Great looking car. But I don’t think I could drive something so underpowered given what else is on offer out there.
not underpowered because it's ligher than the competition
Great review, thank you. I like the look of the car but the small engine is a turnoff.
The rear wheels need more offset
Looks like the Skoda Octavia is the go.
i've got the RS version and it's a fantastic car to drive
@@geoffsemon7411 yes all reports are very positive.
Don’t get an Octavia when you can get a Superb.
@@mharro88 no wagon, no dice
@@SupremeMoFo why? Size? It's not 1998 anymore
I would have a rs6 Audi but this Peugeot is cheaper
Nice car, needs more oomph!
Peugeot 🥰
Never been keen on French cars...even a harder sell here in Australia...
Not premium with a 1.2 litre 3 cylinder
ah yes then BMW 1.5 3 cylinder is definitely more premium
Paint looks blue to me....
might be cool but it needs more torque....
Nice outlook BUT this engine is a joke!😂 I have a 308sw with the 2 litre 150hp turbodiesel and thats a joy to drive!
0-100km in nearly 10 seconds? Hahaha what a joke
unfortunately, they're not joking
They are genuinely taking the piss on this one. This car just looking at it, screams at least 5.5 - 6.0 seconds to 100km.
So it’s essentially just as fast as an old 4 speed slush box Corolla from the early 2000s…
@@mrx168 and? sounds like you need to compensate for something small
The styling doesn't do it for me both inside and out. The engine is way too small and the steering wheel ,instruments relationship is stupid. The omission of a rear seat centre armrest is a mistake detracting from the supposed premium feel and design. If there's a diesel version, that would be the one to go for with it's potential extra torque.
What a missed opportunity. For a brand that doesn't sell many cars and that looks to be making an effort to change that going by the looks and effort in the interior why oh why would they sign off on that underpowered power plant? Just crazy. And same with the steering wheel and lack of leg room in the rear how does that get through all the engineering meetings and get the tick of approval..
Those fake exhaust pipes are ridicilous 🤣
Styling looks great but the reverse camera looks like its camera/screen was stolen from a Nokia 5300.
By this rate, we’ll end up paying 6 figures for a premium sedan, not even fully equipped…. Quite sad actually. Also sad is that NONE of the reviewers points this trend out! No even 1!
looks great. I'd love to see this as an EV
it does exist
Peugeot must be dreaming to think people would fork out 50k to buy a 1.2l 3cy turbo car....
that's what the market sells
Not worth the money for a whipper snipper engine. Even more grossly overpriced is the 508 wagon with its tiny motor and front wheel drive. Looks great though, i dig both wagons, great review
ah yes, the fwd hater that hasn't tested the quality of the best fwd cars.
Save 10k and get a Golf wagon.
It’s a Peugeot, please people, don’t buy a Peugeot … or a Citroen which are just as “reliable”.
Well , ive had a used peugeot 308sw 2015 for five years 54000km and no problems! The car has now 98000 km on and counting 😁
Peugeot have been off my shopping list since the implementation of the "peer over" steering wheel.
It's infuriating, totally non-functional and a definite dealbreaker. The lion doesn't roar in Australia, he hardly purrs, Joe.
A mg zs is quicker
and way worse quality, if you can even call that quality
@@paname514 quality is better than mainstream brands like Kia and Hyundai drives as well as a seltos.
They are not.
That stupid steering wheel design absolutely did my head in when i had a peugeot rental car. Will never ever buy one…
Reliability issues. No performance. Not spacious.
Typically French car, ugly, expensive and poor customer service especially in Australia.