Penny Rimbaud is founder of Crass and an artist and philosopher. Here he discusses the meaning of work with Tom Hodgkinson at the old Idler Academy bookshop.
So the 'real' world asserts itself in the form of an impending parking ticket, lol. I loved Crass's stuff when I was 15, now I'm 55 and find myself still on the same, though different, wavelength. Thank you Penny Rimbaud, you've been a friend to my soul all my life x
I LOVE YOUR SPIRIT SO MUCH, JERRY!!! Your brilliance is just inspiring and so much appreciated (over the decades!!!). 💖 Thank you for your art and all you share to remind us that we are more than our currency. Furthermore, your writing is phenomenal. I’ve purchased and passed on SO many copies of Shibboleth. 💖 Your Twitter posts helped me through a time which was strictly shit. Thank you!!! 💕
Personally I was put off by the smug grin on the interviewers face and he didnt know how to engage a conversation with Penny. I met Penny a couple of times and I have to say he is a great conversationalists and very easy to approach and talk with.
On the leaflet enclosed in the Small Wonder version of Feeding Of The 5000,it said something about phoning Rough Trade up to talk to Crass,so that's what I did in early 1982 - the guy took my phone number and said he'd pass it on to Crass(Rough Trade were distributing Crass Records I think)and I thought, "Yeah,I bet you pass it on hahaha" Back then,I used to go out and get drunk on a Thursday and when I got back from the pub, my Dad was still awake(my first surprise) he then picked up a note he had placed near the telephone for me and began to read it, "Penny from Crass rang earlier to let you know that they're playing Ferryhill 101 Club on 30th April 1982" Picture this? I'm completely pissed and I'm trying to get my head around the fact that my Dad had just spoken to Penny Rimbaud from Crass - my mind wouldn't compute what I was hearing! I thought he must have gone through my record collection to play a prank on me,then I thought,why the fuck would he do that? Anyway,I found out he was telling the truth,when the tour dates came out (yes I went to the Ferryhill gig) It's not an everyday event,when your 55yo Dad has a chat with Penny Rimbaud! Cheers Penny,for choosing to ring,when I was out on the piss!
i loved crass ,i was 15 and got fully into the anarcho punk scene gigs making music , i dont believe in politics , but the powers that should not be have set the world on a tyranical future, i think for myself always have,
The reluctant messiah. This isn't TV. His body language may not be perfect. He may not have delivered the correct coloured pearls of wisdom you expected. Find your own knowledge.
fuck ! Pen , you missed a trick there .. CRASS bread.. 'pay no more than 45p' a loaf with political , art wrappers we can then stick on the fridge with a CRASS fridge magnet.... please do it and we can get Waitrose to deliver it...there might even be a way using a metal stencil you put in with bread when you toast it so it makes the CRASS symbol on the toast !! ... Pen , shall we go on Dragon's Den with this ?...just for some anarcho fun ?
Whole interview no laughs no ģiggles just him born with a silver spoon in his mouth yabling on about his ego and a loaf of bread to a boring man with a lisp yawn yawn 🥱 😴. Violet from poison girls was smart and fun and had energy in abundance. R.I.P. Vi. ❤x
I value crass.. but yeh.. I think Penny's outlook as expressed here.. is seriously in denial of some fundamental realities. Writing a song and baking a loaf of bread could have some similarities from an extremely reductionist point of view, but they are fundamentally different. Especially if you labor to produce something of value.. the needs and intent are highly discriminate. Work entails sacrifice.. play does not.
So the 'real' world asserts itself in the form of an impending parking ticket, lol. I loved Crass's stuff when I was 15, now I'm 55 and find myself still on the same, though different, wavelength. Thank you Penny Rimbaud, you've been a friend to my soul all my life x
If this video had ten million views, the world would be a better place.
I LOVE YOUR SPIRIT SO MUCH, JERRY!!! Your brilliance is just inspiring and so much appreciated (over the decades!!!). 💖 Thank you for your art and all you share to remind us that we are more than our currency. Furthermore, your writing is phenomenal. I’ve purchased and passed on SO many copies of Shibboleth. 💖 Your Twitter posts helped me through a time which was strictly shit. Thank you!!! 💕
Personally I was put off by the smug grin on the interviewers face and he didnt know how to engage a conversation with Penny. I met Penny a couple of times and I have to say he is a great conversationalists and very easy to approach and talk with.
“U don’t judge by other people’s judgement .......it’s wot u give to the world”
All interviews with anarchists should be awkward, except the ones that aren’t.
That ending was a poetic intrusion & proof of concept
Mr. Rimbaud looks like he’d rather be elsewhere at the beginning.
Amazing ending
On the leaflet enclosed in the Small Wonder version of Feeding Of The 5000,it said something about phoning Rough Trade up to talk to Crass,so that's what I did in early 1982 - the guy took my phone number and said he'd pass it on to Crass(Rough Trade were distributing Crass Records I think)and I thought,
"Yeah,I bet you pass it on hahaha"
Back then,I used to go out and get drunk on a Thursday and when I got back from the pub,
my Dad was still awake(my first surprise)
he then picked up a note he had placed near the telephone for me and began to read it,
"Penny from Crass rang earlier to let you know that they're playing Ferryhill 101 Club on 30th April 1982"
Picture this?
I'm completely pissed and I'm trying to get my head around the fact that my Dad had just spoken to Penny Rimbaud from Crass - my mind wouldn't compute what I was hearing!
I thought he must have gone through my record collection to play a prank on me,then I thought,why the fuck would he do that?
Anyway,I found out he was telling the truth,when the tour dates came out (yes I went to the Ferryhill gig)
It's not an everyday event,when your 55yo Dad has a chat with Penny Rimbaud!
Cheers Penny,for choosing to ring,when I was out on the piss!
Mad story, I like it.
Love it! BTW to this day, Steve personally sends out messages about upcoming shows.
The band that lived and meant it....Still as relevant as ever.
i loved crass ,i was 15 and got fully into the anarcho punk scene gigs making music , i dont believe in politics , but the powers that should not be have set the world on a tyranical future, i think for myself always have,
Great video I love The Clash 👍
What's The Clash got to do with anything?
😅
Penny Rimbaud is getting dangerously close to becoming the Alan Partridge of anarcho-punk here.
He’s more the Romella Belx.
Lol
Ahh Haa...
The reluctant messiah. This isn't TV. His body language may not be perfect. He may not have delivered the correct coloured pearls of wisdom you expected. Find your own knowledge.
fuck ! Pen , you missed a trick there .. CRASS bread.. 'pay no more than 45p' a loaf with political , art wrappers we can then stick on the fridge with a CRASS fridge magnet.... please do it and we can get Waitrose to deliver it...there might even be a way using a metal stencil you put in with bread when you toast it so it makes the CRASS symbol on the toast !! ... Pen , shall we go on Dragon's Den with this ?...just for some anarcho fun ?
“ money or fame or things ( houses)
Bloody parking wardens, a bred nemesis!
Whole interview no laughs no ģiggles just him born with a silver spoon in his mouth yabling on about his ego and a loaf of bread to a boring man with a lisp yawn yawn 🥱 😴. Violet from poison girls was smart and fun and had energy in abundance. R.I.P. Vi. ❤x
From philosophy to a parking ticket 😃
Feeding of the 5000 bread reference, wot about the fish?
Fished out.
whats your definition of work , "play" ... he hits it right on the head. :-)
Try telling that to someone who has to lay tarmac on the M6 at 6am in January.
Damn that was an awkward interview
A upper middle class man who used a working class man to preform a social experiment, wow how original
Fuckinell! So pretentious but kinda compelling.
To be fair he looks after that big hoose by Imself
After begging his fans to buy it for him.
Tom Hodgkinson might be the worst interviewer of all time.
wow.
Strewth... Imagine the anxiety of making him a sandwich with Kingsmill 50/50
Saved by the traffic warden..
I value crass.. but yeh.. I think Penny's outlook as expressed here.. is seriously in denial of some fundamental realities. Writing a song and baking a loaf of bread could have some similarities from an extremely reductionist point of view, but they are fundamentally different. Especially if you labor to produce something of value.. the needs and intent are highly discriminate. Work entails sacrifice.. play does not.
Does he still walk around naked?....open door policy at his house?....with the covid out there
That interview er is annoying
bad body language from Penny - arms folded - like he's not interested
Seems very defensive, like he's not really comfortable with the whole thing.
Cannot look the person he's talking to in the eye. Body language is all wrapped up and defensive. Terrible interview. Pretentious guff.