X32/M32 MultiTrack Recording AND Virtual Soundcheck | Tracks Live
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- The best way to practice as a sound technician requires some live recorded tracks. In this video I cover how to record your band rehearsal and then run the tracks back through your console to practice and refine your mix/stream.
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** NOTE **
Please make sure you save your scene on the console BEFORE you update firmware. Your current settings per channel will be cleared. You can reload your scene after update, but make sure to save your scene before updating.
*** NOTE ***
Please make sure you save your scene on the console BEFORE you update firmware. Your current settings per channel will be cleared. You can reload your scene after update, but make sure to save your scene before updating.
scenes saved from an older firmware can be reloaded after the update with a more recent firmware ?
Yes! Ask me how I know. Lol
I had start from scratch when I updated mine before I saved anything.
I learned this the hard way… the new firmware deleted everything!! I did save all my scenes to a USB drive but the new firmware would not recognize that there was anything on the USB… I ended up having to download Behringer X32 Edit software onto a computer, then upload my saved scenes to it, then export it back to the mixer from the Edit App…. It took me many phone calls and a loong time to figure it out.
What about Presets? What happens to them?
Brother this was truly a blessing. We literally are able to multitrack out live now thanks to this amazing instructional. The software was a true blessing as well. We truly thank God for you recording this and hope this gets to you! God bless you my brother
Thanks for the encouragement and blessings.
Thank you so much Allam House! I've looked everywhere for more clarity on this and found little to nothing that had helped...until your video. Just the walk-thru has tremendously helped me and my production team for my church!
Awesome. Thanks for the encouragement.
Give thanks Allam House. I never knew about tracks live until today when I was searching for videos about live streaming using the X32. I have registered onto the Waves forum, downloaded the software and I am surely gonna try it out. In our band we have the X32 rack and we surely gonna try this out. Thanks a great deal for the video.
I've been using Tracks Live in X32 for over two years, it's made such a difference to my mixing, and overall familiarity with the console. Anyone I talk to using a X32/M32, read my lips, get Tracks Live going.. It's easy to use and such a brilliant way to improve your craft.
I couldn’t agree more.
You rock! Thanks bro. I love coming to your channel and you answering my questions with simplicity.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Thank you for the great video and also thanks for still answering every individual question in the comment section. You really helped out so many sound guys!
Thanks for the encouragement.
Thank you so much. Greetings from Poland. Your movies are very helpful in working in our community of the House of God. Good work !
Thanks for the encouragement. It’s amazing how God can use technology to educate his people to further the Gospel.
Great video. This will be super helpful! Thankyou!
I really love this lesson sir.... Thanks for putting this out. God bless💞💯🤸
Thank you! I have been frustrated trying to accomplish this very thing. I am using Traction 7 for my DAW and the best I could do was get the DAW mix to play back on 2 channels on the X32. The REC / PLAY feature and the Input settings (along with a tweak in Tracktion) is what will do the trick.
As you were talking about the Play / Rec option, I was already thinking that I would forget about it and not have any sound for practice on Sunday morning!! Great callout.
Thanks again!
I’m glad it was helpful
Thanks for the video! I love virtual sound check and any kind of 'offline' programming is the best. I don't have to go all the way to my rehearsal space to try some new routing or to refine my channel strips, stream mix, etc.
Yes, this is just one benefit of living in the digital world.
Great Video , helps in a pinch to quickly record while before thinks get hectic .
Thanks for the encouragement.
Thank you for this great video, i am a beginner and i find your video to be very helpful, God bless you
Thanks for the encouragement.
SWEET...still learning some of the updates in 4.0. That's a beauty for sure
Thank you for sharing you are such an asset in The kingdom. The church is getting better.
Thank you, very helpful!
very helpful video,thank's a lot mate!
This helps! Thank you very much AllamHouse!
This is such a helpful video thank you so much
Thanks for the encouragement. Let me know if you have other questions.
The note about the preamp being the only thing that the signal hits before it goes into the DAW is very helpful. This further validates that I've been doing my gain staging incorrectly.
Good job pulling out the small details... and continuing to enhance your skills. I discuss gain structure and some of the common challenges in this video here. czcams.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/video.html
What portion of the video was this?
You can change the routing so that the signal out of the card IS post fader and includes eq and dynamics. I changed mine for recording so I could use some shelving on certain mics. Drew Brashler did a video on how to change it.
Juts found this video. much appreciated
Let me know if you have other questions. Here is another video that talks through the virtual soundcheck settings czcams.com/video/sIhlKD1zbHk/video.html
great video!! thanks for that one tip of turning things back on from play to rec!! lol
I’m glad you found a little nugget in this video.
Great video man
hello again, i have a question, my playback is patched thru AUx 3 and 4, and put these to ch 3 and 4. Why is it the sound is recording to channel 8 of card instead of ch 3 and 4? I am confused.
It should be ch 3 and ch 4 (AUX) to ch 3 and ch 4 of the card while recording and playback.
Thank you Allam! I am now using Reaper to record all 32 channel with my M32R console. It works well! My question, some of the track has really low level audio input, my question...if I increase the gain knob (on the console), will it affect to the level chanel on the console (will make the overall level on LR output increase as well). Can I set it separately?
We have no congregation, so I use the Main LR on MIDAS connected to Video Mixer for streaming.
Yes, you want to set the gain properly and it will impact everything (house, stream, multitracks). Here is a video I posted that talks about gain structure and it’s impact.
czcams.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/video.html
Thank u
Thanks for your efforts to put this together and detail how to set it up. I do have a question I do have one question I hope you can help me with. In your demo, you mention using 4.0 firmware. We have an X32 with 4.0.2 installed on the board. When I look at the routing menus, there is no play or record option like you demonstrated. Do you had any input on what we may be experiencing?
It is on version 4.0 and later. You will find it in the Routing > Input. It is the right-most encoder. ‘Rec’ is for normal service. ‘Play’ is for virtual playback from the computer.
Great ! , is “punch in” posible in the daw let’s say if one of the musicians wants to fix something in real time if we are doing a live recording?
This specific program only allows you to record (that I am aware of). I personally use Presonus StudioOne which is a fully functional DAW and will allow you to pinch in other items. You would save your tracks and then you could run them back through the console and just have a specific mic set to re-record and have your own studio setup.
hi, after all the configuration I want to send the audio to the headphones jack on the laptop so I can connect a cable to a atem mini and used it as a input for live stream. you have another way to use this configuration for live streaming, output the audio to a external video switcher? thanks
Easiest way to work with the ATEM mini is to route your stream mix to go out AUX 5&6 on the back of the console. Then, get a 1/4” to 1/8” TRS cable and plug in the 1/4” to the console (AUX 5&6) and the 1/8” to your ATEM mini
Allam, thank you so much for making this video.. I took a look at the user setting but was not able to determine how you routed the Main L & R signals to the Card Out. Would it be possible to show the exact steps you took for this routing. Thanks in advance
If you are on V4.0 or later you can use the USER out section to custom build some routing. You can then select this output routing setup on the card section of the routing area. This video here is not the exact answer, but it might point you in the right direction since it deals with a bunch of routing setup. czcams.com/video/Zb6ngDBuaDE/video.html
@@AllamHouse Thanks, I will check out the linked video
Will the USB A record multitrack or just 2 channels? I was looking into getting the expansion card so that I can multritrack into the SD card. I feel like figiting through settings will lead to complications lol
The USB slot on the top of the console (next to the screen) will only record a 2-track. The X-USB slot will allow you to multitrack into a DAW (on a computer) or you could go with the X-Live card which does offer multitracking onboard to the SD slot.
HI and thanks for the great video. Just wondering...Is it possible to
record to the usb thumb drive and the SD X-Live expansion at the same
time?
Yes, the USB slot on top of the console is a standard 2-track recorded and has selectable settings if you hit the view button right next to it. The X-USB card on the back is designed to offer the multitrack capability which could be setup to just do the same as the USB slot on top if desired.
Can this be used as just a Daw controller for Logic X? If so how would I connect? I’m wanting a mixer for feel but with motorised faders for automation. Thanks
I believe this can be setup for DAW control, but it is very limited in its capabilities. The X-touch is probably an easier (and less expensive) tool. I’ve heard the WING is a much better DAW controller that is also a full console, but have always done my automation by hand.
Thank you for the lecture. I am having an issue after recording in logic pro. My logic pro records on AIIF format and i notice when ever i want to play back outside the console, the volume is barely heard, but playing back with the console it works plays normal. Am confused
I have not spent any time in Logic Pro for recording so I do not have specific answers to offer, but I would start with your gain on the console. Make sure you have a solid gain structure set per input where it shows between -18 and -12dB on the input meter. This should give you a solid signal coming into the DAW to work with on or off the console. Outside of that, I am not familiar with the AIIF format, but if you still have issues you might look to switch to a more standard .WAV file. I don't think the file type should change the playback, but it might be worth looking into. Good luck with the hunt, please let us know what you find out.
Thanks
Let me know if you end up with other questions.
Hey Dave! Tripped across this video; very useful. How did you setup the Main L/R and Stream L/R to be recorded in the DAW? We use Logic and saving the multitracks would be useful for training and developing our sound engineers. Thanks- Jorge
The first thing to keep in mind is that you can only run 32 tracks across USB so if you are currently recording all 32 inputs you will need to pick a few to not record. I usually go into Routing > Card and set 25-32 as User Outs. Then, in Routing > User > Outputs I set 25-28 to match my inputs and then set 29/30 for Stream Outputs and 31/32 for Main LR output. This will grab those signals and send them into your DAW.
Great vid, quick question. Would I have to set all of my faders to Unity in my DAW to get an accurate virtual soundcheck. I already turn off any effects and processing I have in my DAW but I'm worried that the levels I mix in my DAW won't translate when I do virtual soundcheck.
Ex: record Sunday service for live stream thru DAW.... Come back in middle of week b4 reheand do virtual soundcheck without band... My faders in DAW are different than FOH
Yes, you want to make sure that the signal that sends your tracks back into the console are at zero. For me (in Presonus StudioOne) I use a Pre-Fader send for each channel that I set at 0 so that the entire signal I received from the console to the DAW will now go back to the console. This allows me to properly set my compression and stream levels knowing that my gain structure is pretty accurate.
Thanks a lot for the informative video!
Ist there also a way of recording a session including all the eq and compression etc. and also the x32 - fx?
That would be great!
Thank you.
Regards
Matthias
There is a trick using the P-16 channels that (with the correct routing) allows you to send signals into a DAW and include the onboard channel strip from the X32. You are limited to 16 channels at a time, but it might fit your needs. I don’t currently have a video about this, but maybe I can make one soon as this has come up a bit recently.
@@AllamHouse Cool. Please show us!
@@Ztiredeul Drew Brashler has the video out
Tq sir
Hello good video I have a question istale the track live I put a scene and play but when I want to record there is no signal on the mac and it does not record anything if you could help me thanks
Assuming you have the USB cable plugged in properly, check this video which discusses some settings on both Mac and PC that you might need to check. czcams.com/video/wBHxLNjcZzo/video.html
i am planning to download studio one, is there a free demo projects available after downlaoding the application?
I really like to listen every instruments on each particular channels
First, Studio One does not come with sample multitracks. You will want to setup to record from your band, or find some in other places online.
Second, it seems like you are deep into routing and I hope this might help explain it a little bit. You have audio coming in from sources (mics, guitars, etc) and those will get routed on the input tab of the routing page. On this same page, you can have a different setup to play back your tracks from a computer into the board for you to remix. This is separate from any livestream you might be sending through your AUX bus. Then you can page over in the routing page and get to the Card Out section. This is where you need to understand the current goal OR make one situation that could work most of the time. To Record, you need to have your sources mapped to go out 1-32 and you should have an extra 8 that could be mapped to your AUX bus to allow you to record that audio as well. Then, when you playback, you will have to route the recorded AUX bus to some actual faders.
Tracks Live is the easiest way to setup/capture tracks 1-32. Studio One will be an additional layer of routing to have to learn and coy get way of teach/training
Thank you for great tutorial. You are recording on AE550A. Since i don’t have digital snake is local 1-8,-9-16 etc my only option?
Yes, wherever your inputs are coming in from (local for you) that is what you would route to your card.
AllamHouse I went to church today. I was able to set up recording on x32 to local 1-32 and play from cars 1-32. I downloaded the track live software. Unfortunately I don’t have drop down menu for sound interface. It says no sound interface. However I could see the MIDI has detected x32. I am stack right there.
Hey man,
What did you do at 9:14 to get the audio into the DAW. I followed everything you did, step by step, but i don’t get an audio input in tracks live. (The Mac mini i am using recognizes the input from the x32 card, and I am also able to play audio from tracks live on my x32)
Do you, by any chance have any idea on what i can do?
First thing to check is this security setting. This video covers both Windows and MAC. czcams.com/video/wBHxLNjcZzo/video.html
anyobdy have any luck connecting this to Ableton on PC? I'm having
trouble, I updated the firmware and installed drivers but it wont work
I was working with a church last night that is using Ableton. I was not as involved with the actual DAW setup, but I did see a few things in the process.
(1) we had to make sure that the driver was running and it had an address to show connectivity to the X32.
(2) make sure the X-USB card is selected in the audio card area of the properties.
(3) setup your tracks and for input choose ‘ext’ and then you should have a drop down for the 32 inputs from the X32. Choose the one you want to map to that channel in your DAW
(4) do the same thing for the outputs.
Hi, do you know if we can send the audio through usb 2.0 over 50 ft cable?
The cable used here is a USB 2.0. I just did a short Q&A that covered the type of cable you need to connect from your console to a computer. You can find that here:
czcams.com/video/EwWBYPgSXwE/video.html
In theory a 50' cable is the limit, but I have never tried going that long. I know they make USB 2.0 with a signal booster, but you might have to look into a converter to go from USB to Cat5 and back to USB (potentially). Good luck
Question: For some reason, when I plug the M32 into my DAW (logic), logic only registers 2 inputs (not 32). I’ve never had this problem using a behringer, but I think it might be a routing issue… any advice?…
1) go to Settings > Card and make sure you are set as 32/32
2) go to Routing > Card and make sure those settings match Routing > Input
3) If you are on a newer machine running USB-C and converting with a dongle. Make sure it is either Apple or Anker branded. Other less expensive brands will only convert channels 1/2
4) go into the settings of Logic an make sure the inputs are mapped properly so the DAW has a place to send all 32 USB inputs from the console.
How would you then set up/route the X32 to do overdub on a recording? I'm having trouble getting a track I recorded to play back thru the X32 so I can record another one on to go along with it. Thanks
You would need to use a real DAW (not TracksLive) and do a setup similar to this where you are pushing your mix back into the DAW so you can hear it in your monitors or headphones. czcams.com/video/KpZpsO_l4Qs/video.html
Thank you ,,,
where can i download some multi tracks demo projects of tracks live? So I can play it back to my x32 compact
The best thing to do is setup to record your band in your normal venue. Pick a rehearsal or a service, click those tracks to record and then just stop the recording at the end of the session. Then push those back through your console. I have stuff from my church, but these would be different than your normal folks so it would be okay to practice with, but not worth saving your work as it will likely be different for your actual band.
Also, I believe there are options to get multitracks from other sources online, but I have always just recorded my group.
Hello there, I would like to ask,
Does multitrack recording not return each channel tunning and vocal effect too?
I can return all my tuning (gate limiter etc) through L-R record, but not for each channel multitrack record
Is this normal? Or can something be done so that I get all of each channel tuning through multitrack record? Thanks
The X-USB card is set to take the signal just after the preamp and send it out USB. This means the mute, EQ and other channel strip features will bot be recorded. I discuss it in this recent Q&A video. czcams.com/video/QD8FcsmB-XY/video.html
I'm having an issue my kick mic is on channel 2 and my snare is on channel 3 when I press the record/play button to hear what I've recorded I look on x32 edit and my board and I see that the channel has been moved it moved the kick to channel 3 and the snare to channel 4 what could be the issue? When its on record mode there is no issue. All I wanna do is record my drums and be able to eq them on the board while listening but I'm having this issue could you help me?
I’m not really sure I understand the issue fully, but it is hard to say without watching it happen. The console does offer the ability to setup have different input for a channel regardless of the “fader number” that is listed in the order on the board. There is also different routing capabilities within the card outs, card returns, and in a DAW (if you are using that to record). I do offer private consultations in case you would find that helpful. Feel free to fill out my contact card on my website at sounds.AllamHouse.com
I am having an issue Multi Track recording from the X32. I have the X-USB going to a Mac and I am receiving audio into Tracks Live, but cannot get any signal back to the board when playing back the track. I have the Record set to my AES inputs and the play to Card 1-32. I play the tracks on the play setting on the board and I get no input signal. In Tracks Live is have the X-USB selected under device control. I have the sample rates on the board and software set the same. I’m out of ideas..
This sounds like your outputs in Tracks Live are not mapped properly. I would go into the preferences and check the outputs.
So I have a question regarding this type of setup. I want to run two DAWs (Ableton running loops and Logic for recording Logic Pro and doing vocal tuning). Yes, I shouldn't do it, *BUT* it's a proof of concept that I've been pondering about for a while. All inputs are local, but Logic returns back the tuned vocals for the audience/house, loops/stems/backing tracks run into the house but are also recorded into Logic. I've been fiddling with the routing settings on the X32 and I can't nail it, I know it's possible, just don't know how. It would be easier on the Mac because I can use something like SoundFlower/BlackHole and route between them, but again it's not so clear.
Do you have any tips? 😅
So here are a few things to think about that might adjust your approach.
1) The console can only attach across USB to one computer to manage inputs/outputs. Most people running a basic Ableton rig will have two outputs (Click and tracks) and send the headphone out of this computer into a stereo DI box which allows them to plug these inputs into regular XLR inputs on the console. You can go more advanced and get a Focusrite interface that offers four outputs or a Moto that offers eight outputs, but that is a more complicated setup.
2) Using Step 1 as a guide to get click and tracks into the console you now have the USB to run Logic for recording and vocal processing.
3) Depending on the computer you are using (and its' location in your venue) it may be more efficient to pick one DAW to do everything and go across USB.
ROUTING SETUP;
The Basic setup with two DAWs would have your Ableton rig using a DI and coming in like any other input. Your Logic rig using USB. You would utilize the USER INPUTS section to determine which inputs come from a preamp and which come from USB return (vocals). Your CARD tab would send all your inputs to the card. Your DAW would use some version of Sub Outs to determine the routing for getting your vocals back into the console. Keep in ind you Do Not want your main mix in Logic turned up or routed to any output otherwise it could be coming back into your console.
The Basic setup with one DAW would be similar in that you would use the USER INPUTS to map your desired click, tracks and vocals into the console from the DAW. You would want to make sure that you have your DAW outputs set appropriately for the items going back into the console and confirming your main DAW mix is not sneaking into the console in any way.
There are a lot of details to get right when setting this up. I have linked a video below that might offer you the concepts to work with but if you want to work together I do offer one-on-one consultations. If you want to explore that route please fill out the contact card on my website at sound.allamhouse.com
Video Link - czcams.com/video/96dvkMd_tmw/video.html
Hello Allam,how can I hear the DAW sound while recording my vocal?Like using the DAW sound as a karaoke.
Make sure you have "monitoring" turned on within the DAW. Each DAW is different, but usually there is a button on each fader (near a button to arm for recording) that will allow you to turn on monitoring.
how can i record both aesso 1-16 and local 25 - 32 because if i start the record the local 25- 32 is cannot record
You need to do the following steps:
(1) Go into Routing > Card and set Card 1-16 to AES50 1-16 and Card 17-32 to local 17-32. Then, make sure to route your DAW to bring in all 32 channels from the USB cable. Make sure to connect the cable to the X-USB slot on the back of the console.
(2) Go into Setup and make sure the Card is set to 32/32.
(3) Make sure you have the X-USB driver downloaded if you are on a PC (not needed for MAC).
What if only audio plays back through channel one and two ? Can’t seem to figure out why it plays back through those channels and not through each individual channel like you have it. Any help thanks.
If it is only doing channel 1/2 on playback from the DAW to the console means the DAW is sending only the Main mix back to the console so you need to go into the settings and set your outputs to be individual channels instead of just the main stereo mix.
Hay Allam
Im also struggling to get this right.
I have followed your tutorial exactly as you said and I am still unable to receive any signal from the tracks live program like you did at 9:13 .
The only thing I did that is different compared to what you did was I set up the inputs to Local 1-32 (you did Aes50 1-32).
I have tracks live 1.3
Behringer X32 4.02
Do you have any idea on how to fix it ?
Typically it is a security setting on your computer. Here is a short video that covers both MaC and Windows for the common issue.
czcams.com/video/wBHxLNjcZzo/video.html
Can we record using the Xlive card onto SD and also capture all settings so we can go back and edit ?.
If you record on the X-live SD card, it is just like a computer... only onboard. It will record straight off the preamp, but no Armstrong’s are stored with the project. You would want to save the Scene of the board which is a snapshot of all your settings and then you can load it and play your tracks.
Great video - super useful feature! Quick question - when you route the tracks back into the X32 while in 'play' mode do you have the ability to change the gain? I'm only getting an option for trim? Thanks
True gain control is only allocated for the preamp on the console (or stage box). When flipping to a virtual soundcheck across USB or SD card (on the X-Live card) you can use the gain knob and this will impact digital trim. This increase or decrease will be reflected when you go back to the normal setting for live inputs so your efforts will be retained.
@@AllamHouse thanks so much for the quick response. Really appreciate it. All the best to you!
Thanks Allam,
I have been trying this with cakewalk but only getting one channel through to the DAW. Please what am I missing out?
There are a number of variables to consider here.
1) Are you on a Mac or PC? If PC, do you have the X-USB driver installed? If not, you are probably limited to just two inputs.
2) Do you have the X-USB card selected as the input driver (regardless of computer platform)?
3) Have you setup the routing inside the DAW to receive the 32 inputs from the X-USB driver?
@@AllamHouse many thanks, that really helped. Sorted now.
Thank you very much for a very helpful video. I'm using m32live and I need help with setup. Can I record aux in 1-6 channels to the sd card and play them later from the card. which routing option will enable this solution.
You will treat the SD card similar to the USB recording. Take these steps.
Recording---
1) Go to Routing > Card and set 1-8 to be sourced by AuxIn 1-6/TB.
2) Go to the USB Recorder settings (click the view button next to the USB recorder) and find the option for the recorder source and change from USB to SD
3) When ready, go to USB Recorder and push the record button
Playback---
1) Go to Routing > Inputs and set the AUX In Remap (far right) to Card 1-6.
2) Go to the USB Recorder and push the play button
*NOTE: I do not personally have this card installed in my console so I am going off of what I have learned from working on others' consoles. Make sure to test this during a non-production time to make sure you have all of the details worked out.
@@AllamHouse Thanks a lot. Im find solution using users in and aux in to the first group of chanels at routing IN. All Play and Record option of multitracking works great from card and live without any other configuration. Cheers!!!
Greetings Allam House. Just one question. How do I get to record audio coming on the auxiliary channels using tracks live?
If you want to capture the AUX channels into TracksLive you can either route a block of inputs through the normal USB routing area OR through the custom User Outputs area. It just depends on how many inputs you are running standard to determine how many extra channels you have available to map your AUXs to.
@@AllamHouse Thanks a bunch for the info. I am gonna try that out. Give thanks again for your help.
Great video. Question though. I've recorded a rehearsal using Traktion Waveform, but on playback, some channels are extremely loud and others are extremely quiet. All levels on the DAW were left at unity gain. What could be the problem?
This would be a representation of your gain structure per channel. Many people set their gain according to what they need in their room and then realize they have very little signal coming into their console (and then their monitors and DAW). The video below discusses the issue and my recommended approach. czcams.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/video.html
Whenever I want to record with M32, the mic gain levels are extremely low. Vocals are not recorded loud enough even with mic gain set to +60db. When I'm doing live sound the gain levels are fine, this only happens when I try to record...and it is not DAW related, this is inside the M32. anyone knows what I'm doing wrong?
Can you confirm that everything is set to run live sound and in Routing>Input the bottom right encoder is set to REC? Now, go to Routing>Card and make sure all of your settings look the exact same as the inputs tab.
Finally, go to the DAW and make sure you have a 1 to 1 mapping of your inputs, nothing in the DAW is turned down (input, gain, or plugin) and it should work properly.
Hi I have the x32 compact and tried to connect it but it doesn't come up on tracks live?
Are you in Windows or MAC?
I’m pretty much stuck at Tracks Preferences, Audio System Settings. I can’t switch the Interface. It’s greyed out.
What type of computer are you on (Windows or MAC)? If it is a Windows machine you need to have the X-USB driver installed to make sure the computer recognizes the soundboard.
In Tracks Live is there a way to export each individual track so that I can export them into Logic Pro to work on mastering?
The tracks would be stored on the harddrive as .wav files. You could move those to Logic to do your post work. If possible, it will be much easier to just setup Logic in place of TracksLive and record right into Logic which removes the extra step.
@@AllamHouse yes brother thank you so much. I was able to extract them as individual files and put them in Logic Pro. You have no idea how much you have helped me and my church. May the Lord continue to bless you and may he always keep you. You are such a blessing to this kingdom.
I’m not getting any audio into the software even though everything is connected and setup properly.
If you have a Windows machine, make sure you have the X-USB driver downloaded to your computer. Regardless of Windows or Mac,
Start by checking out the security settings discussed in this video. czcams.com/video/wBHxLNjcZzo/video.html
my x32 is not showing up in the interface list on tracks live. Is there something I need to do to install that for the PC?
On a PC you will need to download the driver for X-USB. You can find this on Behringer’s website by searching for X32, click on the full-size console, scroll down and look on the right for software. There are usually two driver options and either should work for you.
Hello. Thank you for the great video! Using this tutorial, I was able to successfully set up Tracks Live with my X32 and create a multi-channel recording. But since then, I've noticed that sometimes when I boot up Tracks Live, the X-USB option is not there as an interface. Sometimes, it is there. Is there a boot sequence between the mixer and the PC that's required for the PC to recognize the mixer? In other words, does one device have to be turned on before the other? Thanks.
This is a great question, and one that I have never figured out myself. This would happen on my PC about once a month and it drove me crazy. I have experienced it on MAC, but found a solution that seems to work to wake-up my DAW and see the X-USB. What I do on MAC is switch my input device to me "Built-In Mic", hit Apply, then go back to the dropdown and X-USB is there (in a new spot in the list) and when I select it tends to work fine. For PC, the only thing I found that was the most consistent (but still not enough for me to call it a fix) was to...
(1) Disconnect the USB cable
(2) Power down the console
(3) Reconnect the USB cable
(4) Reboot the console
Good Luck
@@AllamHouse Oh my, that's painful! Thank you for the work-around, though. Have you found this problem with both the Presonus DAW and the Tracks Live DAW? If it's on both, then I suppose it's a problem with the soundboard or the X-USB driver. If it's only happening on Tracks Live, then I might just need to find a new DAW. Thanks again for your help.
I only use Presonus StudioOne. I made the video with TracksLive because it was a free piece of software. My assumption is that it is not dependent on the DAW, but rather the computer and console connection.
@@AllamHouse Yep, that makes sense. So it's a problem in Presonus StudioOne, and I've seen it in Tracks Live, so it doesn't matter which DAW I use. If I come up with a better solution than what you provided, I'll let you know. Thank you again so much.
So after multitrack is recorded, mixer is to be switched to play, recording played back through mixer. Can you then practice with eq, mixing and effects?
Yes, that is the goal. The tracks are recorded just after the ore-amp which means it does NOT have any of the EQ, Comp, FX in the recordings. This allows you to push them back through the console and practice without a band.
Can you plug the computer in with Ethernet. Or do you have to use usb / FireWire
This console (from the factory) has the X-USB card which allows 32 channels going from the console to the computer and 32 channels to come back to the console from the computer. It uses a standard printer cable (USB A-B). If you need to move audio across an Ethernet cable you would need to upgrade to the DANTE card.
When I record, x32 going to Logic, the waves are really thin. When I record with my focusrite, the waves are a good size. Any ideas?
This is based on gain structure. Ideally you would have all instruments registering between -12 and -9 on the channel input of the x32. This would allow for a consistent sound going into Logic. It is. Penal though for different instruments to produce larger patterns than others.
Gain stage.
Hello
Can I loop the music for live show on Midas m32?
Yes, you can send the individual tracks or a mixed version (in a stereo return) back to the console. The routing becomes a little interesting, but you would just be using Card inputs for the channels you want to have sourced from the DAW.
Presonus has Studio One 5 Prime as a free download in their website. Will this do the same thing as TracksLive? Just looking for the multitrack recording and playback, no other fancy features.
I use StudioOne Pro which I record into every week. It is a paid software which is why I recommend using TracksLive... it's free. I know the Prime version is free also, but I'm not sure if you can setup to record in 32 tracks. Give it a try and see if you can map it all in for recording. Let me know the results.
When I am on the play side of the console, if someone is playing an instrument on stage it still come through. When I hit play on “Tracks Live” it plays what was recorded and mutes any current inputs from the stage. As soon as it reaches the end of the recording, stage inputs are now hot again and are not muted and it plays through the PA.
Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
It sounds like you are on the M32 or have the X-Live card installed. This auto-switch feature is built into the settings of the card. Go to Settings > Card and you will find some options to change away from an automated switch. I hope this helps.
Hi. Thanks for this video. I have the exact configuration as being showed in this video but when I play back from my computer, everything is going back to channel 1 and 2 and I was expecting all tracks to play back to their respective channel as it was recorded. Will you please tell what I may be doing wrong?
Double check the following items...
1) on the X32 go to Setup > Card and make sure you are on 32/32
2) in the DAW, locate your I/O settings (maybe in preferences) and make sure you have the appropriate 32 ins AND 32 outs setup.
3) in the DAW, make sure you have each channel set to route to an individual output and make sure your Main Output (in the DAW) is NOT going to output 1/2.
@@AllamHouse Got it.Thank you sir. It works. I appreciate it.
should i use an external hard drive to record the files on or should i keep evertything local on the mac
This is a personal preference thing. I typically (Windows or MAC) record on my local hard drive. For audio, I keep 2-3 services on my local before I move them to a longer term storage. For video, I have a external SSD I use for everything since the files are so much bigger.
Hello Allan, tks for the video. But, I dont know why, does not work. I did exactly step by step. In the 9:13 min video, when you delete and start with you micropone, I did exactly the same and I don't have signal on track. I could hear a click and your channel 32 works. On my case, nothing happened. I was using my wireless plugged on digital snaker. could you help me? If you prefere talk private, I can send my phone number. my meters on the board is okay, in the screen the program no.
If you are on a Windows machine you will need to install the X-USB driver, if you are on a Mac it will not need a driver. Also, there are some security settings you might need to change which I explain in this video here (both Windows and Mac) czcams.com/video/wBHxLNjcZzo/video.html
Hi Dave, great video once again! We just set up an X32 a month ago and it's working great for us. A couple weeks ago I tried to record our praise band using multitrack recording, and that worked good and I was able to play back through our sound system. Since then we had to make some changes as we are setting up IEMs, and in the process something must have gotten changed. When I play back the recording on the DAW, the whole band is played back on tracks 1-2 in addition to other tracks (drums are also on tracks 1-2). The whole band comes through on tracks 1-2 even when all the faders are down, and feedback seems just around the corner. Any ideas of what it might be? I recorded in Reaper originally, and I just downloaded Tracks Live and imported a few tracks and it did the same thing. Thanks in advance!
Reaper has defaulted to an output of L/R mains going out USB 1/2. This happens to me and I have to change it when I don’t use one of my templates I’ve built. Double check your settings and you should be good to go. If possible, build a template that includes your I/O mapping in Reaper and you can use that for each session.
@@AllamHouse Thanks! I think that did the trick. I had only a few minutes today to look at it, and I unchecked send to main/master output in each Reaper track. When I played back I think I was still getting some other stuff coming through, but when I turned all the monitor buses down everything went away (except the tracks being played back on the board's channels on which they were recorded). Thanks again for your help!
Do I need to update for me to see the and hear the tracks?
This setup works on all versions of the firmware, but the Rec/Play switch was added in the V4.0 and newer firmware versions. In previous versions you would need to update the inputs to be card... the newer versions you can preset those inputs and just flip a switch.
When I try it on Tracks Live, I get 32 inputs but only 8 outputs. Is there a routing step I'm not completing? I followed your steps exactly.
On the X32, go to Settings > Card and make sure you are set to 32/32. This should allow your card to bring back 32 tracks from your DAW.
Does this work with the compact also?
Yes, this setup will work on any X32 platform you are using... assuming it has the X-USB or X-Live card.
Awesome Video.. Tanks for doing these videos.... Anyways my questions is i am able to record and play back... when i play back the Main fader does nothing... also i am noticing that it is not going to any of the Busses i have set up... am i doing something wrong.. not sure where to look. thanks for everything
This is interesting. In theory, if your inputs are the only thing that change (from REC to PLAY) then everything should work the same. Double check that you are not sending all of your multitracks to the individual input channels and NOT all to input 1/2 of the console.
@@AllamHouse I will double check... but i can see all the channels I recorded are appearing on the same. CH 1 appears on CH1 and CH 20 is CH 20 i can see the input on those individual channels... it just weird... Thinking so many people have done stuff over the years that I just need to save a scene and default the X32 then reload that scene... basically starting over... Maybe?
Sometimes it is worth a fresh start. You can use the library (on the console) to store your EQ/comp settings for each input. Then Dona reset and get the basic workflow functioning, then reload the settings one at a time and make sure everything continues to work.
having trouble setting up pc to link with our x32 for the multitrack is there drivers I need?
Yes, you will need to go to Behringer website, search for X32, go to the software section on the right side and grab the X-USB driver.
@@AllamHouse thanks Dave. I'll give it a try. I appreciate your video's and you are a great drummer and loved the pure worship. Thank you
Can it be possible to record while hearing an instrument from the same computer and DAW? For example, if you are doing a voice overdub for a complete done music, is x32 possible to playback and record at the same time?
Short answer... yes. It will take a little prep work on the routing in and out of your DAW and X32, but it is certainly possible to do it. Be aware that if you are running tracks back through with a bunch of plugins in the DAW, you might experience some latency. You can do it and even can become creative with how you do it for the best result.
@@AllamHouse please show me how to route it on the X32, i can find my way on DAW routing. I will be very grateful sir.
I’m happy to help. Can you give me more insight on your exact scenario? Would you be recording one input at a time? Would you be recording a band that needs to hear a rough mix in their monitors? Let me know.
We use Reaper to do multitrack recording at church. It's very easy to set up routing. You can also set it to record in FLAC, to save storage space (vs WAV) :)
Reaper is a great DAW. I personally use Presonus StudioOne Pro, but if people are just trying to record tracks and play them back in the console I promote TracksLive because it is free. Reaper is the next best thing due to minimal cost, but that is why I use TracksLive.
@@AllamHouse I was looking at TracksLive, and it seems like a simple solution for this purpose. However, on the page there's this note:
"Please note: Development of Tracks Live has been discontinued. Tracks Live is still compatible with the systems listed on the Support tab below. On newer systems, REAPER 6.0 is qualified by Waves for multitrack recording and playback via the SoundGrid Driver."
Heh...
(I also like that Reaper is cross platform, it works on Linux, which I use at home)
That is a good point.
Hi Dave. Thanks for the video. Is there a way to multitask without using a computer? Maybe an SD card?
I saw your other comment and just replied to it. I will post the same answer here in case someone has the same question while looking at this video.
If you have the Behringer X32 you will need to upgrade to the X-Live card which allows for multitrack recording directly to SD cards. If you have the Midas M32 it will come with this card already installed. Outside of those options, you will need to use a DAW to record. If you are just going for a basic record and playback, you might look at Trackslive which is a free download from Waves and it is a very basic DAW that would be a direct replacement for the SD card concept if you need this soon.
@@AllamHouse thank you!
do i need to do anything different, i have the x32 rack
No, everything is pretty much the same on the X32 rack. You still have 32/32 across the USB cable and I have multitrack recorded many shows on the rack version.
Hi Alan, could you please help me with my issue? Is it possible to record multitrack already with set effect in my X32 Compact?
By default it is not designed to record like that, but only pull in RAW tracks. You can become creative and setup some custom routing to record exactly what you want (within limitations). You would end up using a MixBUS and feed it the dry signal and the FX you want and then send that bus out across USB into your DAW. Also, if you are looking to just build a nice mix on the console and then send that to your DAW I have a number of "live Stream" related videos that might give you some ideas. Here are two videos that can help you with routing and board layout.
Mix Bus Routing to USB:
czcams.com/video/Vx4HjArTeZI/video.html
Custom mix across a Stereo MixBus:
czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
@@AllamHouse thank you, I will definitely try it
Allam please can you explain further using the x32 as your DAW control
I have actually never setup my console as a DAW control, but I know it’s basically a MIDI map process. This video discusses how I use the console to record multitracks from my band like in a studio environment and then I can replay those tracks through my console to refine my house and live stream mix on a weekly basis.
@@AllamHouse oh ok , thank you Allam
Allam do you need to download a driver for that computer?
Answered this in another comment on a different video.
Hi, I founded your video because i was sesrching a way to have One external synth route to ableton, so i can use vst plugins to effect my synth in real time. How i can do t'hat? I own a behringer x32 producer. Thank you a lot for any kind of help.
The setup will be somewhat unique and I don't have a specific video to point you to for this setup. I usually take the approach of sending all my inputs to a DAW (for multitrack recording) which is the video you watched here. Once those signals are in the DAW you have the ability to manage them in the DAW and then route them back out (across USB) and back to the console. If it is just one input you can get away with just changing the source for that channel, but if it ends up being more than that it is usually best to use the User In settings. To get started though, just select the channel and go to Home > Config and then on the left you can select the card channel that your signal is returning to the console on (from your DAW). I like to keep a one-to-one routing inside the DAW so that channel 13 on my console is channel 13 on USB and channel 13 in the DAW. I hope that helps. If you need specific help feel free to fill out the contact card on my website and we can book a time to chat. sound.allamhouse.com
@@AllamHouse thank you a lot. I solved it using aux. I attach synth input to an aux input, then in the menu under card section for 1-8 I choose 1-8b aux and that's how I can have on channel 1-2 of ableton the synth. Thank you 😙
I cannot multitrack record tracks live utilizing windows, on wants to record to channels 1 and 2, I have everything setup correctly as per the videos, I have an M32
Go to Setup > Card and make sure the setting is on 32 in / 32 out
I have just updated to firmware 4.0.6. I am trying to get multi-track recording working. I have installed PreSonus Studio Live 5 on a Mac. When I open Studio Live I only get two Left and Right as inputs instead of all 32 channels. I have the X32 set for 32 out 32 in for the card. Am I missing another setting? Is there something else I need to do? Help.
The level of a Presonus matters in this case. The free version (Prime) only supports 2 inputs. The Artist and Pro support your 32 tracks. I always recommend Prime for people that are practicing at home when someone else is handling the actual recording, but if you want to record you will need the Artist. Erosion at minimum.
@AllamHouse bummer. Does the free version of Tracks Live or any other free version support 32 channels?
Yes, Tracks Live is free and supports all channels. Newer OS will sometimes not run it, but it is certainly worth a shot.
Here I am again, when I open up Tracks Live it is not showing an interface, when I go to settings and try to click the interface drop down it is greyed out and will not open, any help would be appreciated
I would start by checking the settings discussed in this video. czcams.com/video/wBHxLNjcZzo/video.html
@@AllamHouse thanks so much!!
Allam house I have a question
How can we record multi track with the dynamics and eq and effects into the daw ? On midas m32 please make video on that
This is a great question and the answer is not an easy one. I will add it to my list of upcoming videos once ai finish my current series.
Short answer. You have to run inputs through the P16 routing, then send the P16 routing out your card to your DAW. This only allows for 16 channels to be recorded like this so you can gain an additional 12 channels by doing something similar with tour buses. It will remove the functionality of the console to be used as a live mixer, but it will be a usable studio console in this configuration. I hope that makes sense. I’ll start planning for that video response as well.
I wish he would just tell everyone asking this question that Drew Brashler already made a perfect step by step video for this. He keeps promising to make a video and eludes to how it's done. Make the video or tell people there is one dude!!!
Hi there, thanks for that video, very usefull.
Would you dare to help : tracks live do not recognizes X32 .
If you are on a Windows machine you will need to download the X-USB driver and check your security settings. If you are on a Mac you will only need to check your security settings. The X-USB driver can be found on the Behringer website, search for X32 and then go to the software section on the right. This video here discusses the security settings for both types of computers czcams.com/video/wBHxLNjcZzo/video.html
@@AllamHouse Thank you very much ! I also needed Asio4all to make it work. :)
Ah, that is good to know.
Hi @allamhouse I followed all the steps, but for some reason when I play it back on the x32 the sound is only coming from channels 1 and 2. Where can I fix this issue?
You’ll need to make sure the DAW is setup for 32 outs (not just 2). What you are getting is the main LR mix from the DAW coming back across USB 1/2.
@@AllamHouse I use studio one and I thought that when the routing from the x32 is set, and the input and output sources are set in the daw to “X-USB” it will automatically send all those channels through the DAW, as long as the right amount of tracks is set up in the DAW. Or am I completely wrong?
Unfortunately, it is not automatic. You need to go into Song > Song Setup > Audio I/O and manually do the routing within the matrix window. This video here shows some of the setup matrix window in StudioOne and it might be helpful to you. There is a quick link in the description to jump to the 13:44 mark. You will also need to select your channels in the DAW to go back out the ‘sub group’ which will get it to go out USB and back to the console. If this doesn’t work out, let me know which version of StudioOne you are using and I’ll see if I can make a quick video about it.
Video Link: czcams.com/video/96dvkMd_tmw/video.html
@@AllamHouse thank you for the help!
You are a good teacher. So once I record the tracks, I can use them to eq channels for live mix.
That’s exactly right. Swap your inputs from Rec to Play and you can work with everything on the board in an isolated fashion to refine your sound for your stream.
That's the whole idea behind this and he never really mentioned it! lol The band can do one song then go eat and you can do soundcheck!