Royal Enfield Himalayan Euro 5 test - on road, off road and a breakdown
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Just out on the Euro 5 Himalayan, riding some local roads and lanes.
Just to clarify, I think the breakdown is completely self inflicted and will update when I've had chance to have a look at it. Otherwise I've always found the Himalayan to be a trustworthy machine and have done about 25000 miles on them over various trips.
Nathan - A really great video. Compliments on your presentation style. Both your subject knowledge and passion for motorbikes is hugely evident. Excellent instruction and an easy, natural approach to learning that would definitely get the best from almost all learners. Just brilliant.
As a Himalayan owner, and new to green laning, this video has been really helpful.
Loads of great, simple advise, easy to follow. Nice one.
Grumps.
Your dinner's in the dog! Been there. Honest opinions, need more of them. Thanks for another interesting video 👍
I’ve driven down that lane to Snapper and the Scout ground many times, and never realised there was a green lane opposite! And that corner! What a place to konk out. It’s blind both ways and a nightmare when in your situation. I miss North Devon... hope the bike is now up and running. Les (in Chester).
I think this price is both an asset and a problem. Some people dismiss it because of the price, some people are drawn to it because of the price. I love my Himalayan because it is perfect for me. It was not about cost, my previous bike was a 2018 Africa Twin. It was a brilliant bike but it was too big and awkward for me off road. I feel confident that I can take my Himalayan anywhere. It is very confidence inspiring off road. Recently I was on a long dirt road trip to a ghost town. It poured for hours, the road turned into a slimy mess. I wouldn’t want to be on any other bike.
I was thinking of getting another Himalayan, u just reminded me why I sold the last one , Lack of back up from RE , Dealers are brilliant in general
My USA 2022 looks to be a Euro 4 engine in a Euro 5 bike…. I have had it now my 3rd day and my first bike as well. Love this thing it is so easy to ride and confidence inspiring.
Great video, as always. I can't help but see a link between you talking about prospective competition and the bike going-"sod this, you can walk home, after all I've done for you"🤔
V. interesting for someone getting keener by the day for the Himalayan. You also have a great presentation style 😀
Hope the bike is okay and glad you’re safe 👍
Love this Nathan, thank you for the inspirational content. Cheers.
Great video and commentary, as usual. Re: Your breakdown... My guess is that one of the connection plugs that you have to move out of the way to get to the battery, and which are under the right side panel, came adrift. We had the same problem after we did some maintenance or a mod. On ours, it was either never clicked together properly or we inadvertently dislodged it. I had a brief holy $#@! moment until we discovered the problem, but thankfully I wasn't stuck on the side of the road.
I'd LOL, but woke up this morning at the Overland Event to a flat battery on the CB. My own damn fault, as I'd left a couple gadgets charging on the 12v socket overnight.
Shinola happens, hopefully your issue isn't going to be a big problem.
Moving the catalytic converter is just to get it to light off faster and thus go into closed loop operation faster during warmup.
I would bet money on one of those 5 pin mini relays being the culprit. I had the same issue with my 2020 (US model) at about the 500 mile mark. I believe on the Euro 5 models that there are four of them housed together behind the battery box under the pillion. You just have to replace them with relays with same amps/voltage.
After researching the issue I found it that was very common (especially on bikes produced 2020 and newer). My guess is that they changed manufacturers after an interruption in the existing supply during the pandemic. RE needs to get that sorted out right away. Quite a few people are getting stranded just riding home from the dealer.
Any word on what those relays control?
@@daveinwla6360 believe one of them is the fuel pump/sidestand safeguard which causes this particular issue. In my bike there's only 2 relays, so I'm not sure on the bs5 what they're all related to.
Actually the Suzuki 250 V Strom has screw & nut type valve adjustment not shims .The valves can also be adjusted without removing the fuel tank by taking the side panels off & swinging the coolant bottle out the way .Suzuki 250 V stroms get used on all types of roads & non roads in Central & South America through flooded roads & rainy seasons even at high altitudes over the Andes & don’t miss a beat . They are better than they get credit for ,the U.K. biking press is fixated about horsepower & speed & elitist . I think the clue is in the title regards the Himalayan, RE decided to build an adventure bike more suited than the Bullet for touring rugged terrain like the Himalayan mountain range ,hence the Himalayan . Add one intrepid Dutch female adventurer riding a Himalayan thousands of miles over all terrain through several countries back to the Netherlands .Hey presto everyone is taking notice & you are riding one .👍
Makes me glad I went with a T7, and not skimped out and picked up a RE Himi. Hope the bike gets sorted out sooner then later.
As I tried to stress, the problem is most likely something I've inflicted but will update once investigated. Hope you're enjoying the t7
Looks like you got it all sorted now!
Great video Nath well done as ever. Worked in the bike trade many years and owned many Enfields 3 from new 4 second hand. owner experience from moto GB is imo dreadful they couldn't care less, bitterly disappointed with their attitude they treat the customer and dealers with utter contempt regarding warranty claim issues suffice to say if they burst into flames and I had a glass of water, I'd drink it.
Service intervals are 6000 for the Himalayan, its only the valves that need checked every 3000 that's what's on the logbook, its dealers that will be happy to fully service the bike every 3000 and not tell you it only requires valve checking.
Great instructional video Nathan, shame it ended the way it did, but ultimately at least got to a safe place. Count me in on a November bunkhouse adventure. The Kawasaki is coming along and should be up and running by then. All the best.
Yes for the November bunkhouse trip. Will be ready for an escape again by then.
That's when you DO notice a bike weight - when you have to push it!
Have tried a AJS Tempest 125 Scrambler surprisingly good off-road
Lots of good advice for new beginners off road. Up for the bunkhouse adventure on my 310. Keep on the mud.
www.dorothysspeedshop.com/event-details/himalayan-winter-bunkhouse-weekend
Great video hope was an easy solution.
The most obvious choice is for a 500cc single with balancer shaft, because it would suit both the Himalayan, the Meteor, and possible a resurgent Bullet.
Not sure if you will get the new KLR 650 in the UK to compare to the Himalayan but over here in Canada they are the same price at around $8000 Cdn (4567 GBP as we speak.) Yes the Himalayan is lower and easier to ride off road but the KLR has better power and better specs all round. Probably the Kawasaki is better built also. I do like the looks of the RE though as the KLR is darn ugly. All round cheap ADV to do everything Id go with the KLR for the money. Would like your thoughts. Not everyone can afford a GS so we have to compromise. Always like your reviews.
In the US, out the door price of Himalyan is around USD 5600, with freight and inspection charges. Sounds like it is 1000 bucks more in Canada. The dealers in Canada must be charging hell lot more or what? Is it higher freight charge in a smaller market with vast landmass? I think that Himalayan has a better mileage, its spares are cheaper, ergonomics is better, simpler and handles better and more forgiving on gravel etc. KLR has a more refined engine for better linear power delivery and runs faster on highways. But Himalayan can do 65 mph effortlessly at long stretches which is sufficient most of the time. Looks can be subjective but yea, the Himalayas looks way better in my eyes.
Edit: From 4 series, Himalayan's build has pretty good for the money you pay. Build quality certainly is not a deal breaker.
I like the camouflage colour scheme.
I've noticed on my himalayan euro 5 they've put exhaust hangers on both sides. So you never know they might be getting ready for something
Continental GT 535 launched 6-7 years back had a single cylinder engine. Don't know what they did to it RE could fit that engine with a big bore kit to make a ~700 cc engine and install on Himalayan for American motorways.
Thanks the video. Some great tips for novices like me. My E5 just had its first service, all good so far I really like it. Hope you get to the bottom of the issue with your one. Looked like the fuel injection light was on so maybe a fuel issue? Go easy on RE regarding parts. The electronics industry is on its knees at the moment, some parts have a year lead time! Very frustrating though. I'd be interested in a late autumn bunkhouse run.
If you don’t keep the batteries fully charged on modern bikes they will let you down fast . The lights & the fuel pump & all kinds of electric parts are taking juice from the battery before the starter motor is even cranked .That wasn’t the case with old school carb fed bikes .that had lights you could switch off .& could be push started down the road .
Really good vid ... especially your sharing of the experience you've gained over many miles off roading. The hazard lights came in useful there mine doesn't have those, 'leuheanrede' the great Indian Himalayan youtuber say's he wouldn't do an upgrade vid on fitting hazard lights as so many riders ride with them in India making them a Hazard ... I'M In FOR BUNKHSE BASH PLEASE
thanks Another excellent vid i must admit i didn't get the whole Himalayan thing and snapped up a ktm 390 adventure with all of its gadgets few a few miles on her and it still isn't hitting the button so test rode a Himalayan i know i should have before but my word do i get it now i don't no what it is about the package of a Himalayan that i prefer but it feels so much better to me i think i maybe swapping
I have to say this breakdown wouldn’t put me off the bike. I tend to find bikes either have the odd initial niggle or they’re rock solid. My brilliant TDM had an oil mist from an external oil feed which had a new seal a re-torqued at the first service. No drama and I’m sure it’ll be something equally minor on this. Ironic really as when the first came out I was the first to berate them because of all the initial horror stories of the Indian spec models. Turns out the basic design look rock solid.
No it definitely shouldn't. I was at pains to stress in the video that most likely it's my fault from buggering up the abs sensor. This breakdown isn't a reflection of the bike, at least that's my assumption until I have a look what's up with it.
@@nathanthepostman sure but ironically I’d hope it was something else that’s actually failed rather than, say, the ecu sulking due to a lack of abs signal info. That would be a big of a shame. Hope you’re other half didn’t didn’t give you an ear bashing as dinner was ready and it’s all sorted soon. 👍 Jon H
Hi I'm 2019 model owner have recently driven mates 2021 model didnt seem much different . .which ultimately is a good thing...now on subject of value it appears it's cheaper to buy a new one🤔 when most s/hand ones are around £4000....atb nathan...
Royal Enfield have been on the phone, they want their jacket back!
Yeah, that jacket was just a rental, mate. :-)
Unfortunate breakdown! That's one of the worrisome parts for me; a lot of the riding out in this area (southwest USA) is... very remote - the sort of places where breakdown could result in a very bad situation. Probably just a kink that needs worked out!
Yeah, can't wait for the follow-up video showing what went belly-up!
I've just bought a Euro4, which is your fault! . I'm quite happy with my choice :) And put me down for the Bunkhouse adventure!
Hey Nathan, me too! End of October, start of November is bad for me as I am on call, but later in November would be fine and, as discussed when we were all down there camping on Dorothy's great Staycation, I'd love to bring Sherpa down for a few days romping round Exmoor. Although I'd be in David's group I think :-)
@@seankeogh6102 www.dorothysspeedshop.com/event-details/himalayan-winter-bunkhouse-weekend
www.dorothysspeedshop.com/event-details/himalayan-winter-bunkhouse-weekend
I like the Himalayan but a Japanese alternative is the Honda CB500X, a great bike. Hope the RE was an easy fix.
I've got exactly the same bike and colour.
I would be very interested in what caused the breakdown.
They'd spot on with a 500cc and filled this lack of power. The 650 twin is too big.
Great vid… Sidestand safety switch ? 🤔
Kick start would be handy. Dunno how you manage to talk so much while riding. Hope you sorted the issue out? And yeah, think something more than a jacket given the investment you have made into their products would have been good. No excuse for the spare part problem.
I would be interested in the Himalayan days in November 👍
www.dorothysspeedshop.com/event-details/himalayan-winter-bunkhouse-weekend
@@nathanthepostman Back at work tomorrow see if I can book the day's off? 🤞
Wait for Milano event in November.
I could be interested in a Himalayan bunkhouse weekend in Nov. Could probably persuade other Rob (we both did your Postie tour recently) to join too.
www.dorothysspeedshop.com/event-details/himalayan-winter-bunkhouse-weekend
"Where are the established brands?"
Good question. I guess they are busy making 1200cc adventure bikes for average "Grossglockner adventurer".
Nathan thanks for your vid, how tall are you? I had the previous gen and I had problems with my knees (I'm 6"2 ) hitting the tank bars. Other than that, the bike is perfect for me.
looked like great fun,,,how much was the pod overnite
You do have some Jibber jabba 🤣😂👍. Nothing wrong with that
I ordered mine on 1/06/21 and still waiting for delivery .so know where your coming from regards parts and delivery.
I was traveling on the number 19 bus when I felt a bump in the road. Was it you??😂😂😂
Actually, the bike was the 1st bump. Nathan was the 2nd bump. :-)
Oh no! Hope it didn't take long to get home
Hola,
I plan on buying two Himalayans in January one for me and one for my brother who lives in the states and he will ride it once a year when he visits Colombia. I was thinking of starting a small bike rental with the two bike. I live in the coffee triangle also know as the most beautiful area of Colombia. Do you have any tips on the bike rental business?
Ok, what caused the breakdown? I should be getting the delivery of my E5 this week and look forward to some trail riding when it is run-in.
Relays
Same thing happened to me on a recent test ride. The bike just died. Then it restarted and died a couple of hundred yards up the road. I could restart it, but it would cut out as soon as I put it in first gear. Hasn’t put me off yet as it met all of my expectations! Let me know what the fault was.
@Χρηστος not sure. The people I test rode it with didn’t sat, but I rode another a couple of months later and it was fine.
Hi. I know its been a long time but did we find out what was the issue?
Well your definitely not in the RE payroll, not if they send you a bike that breaks down. 🙄
Hope it was nothing serious or expensive.
What is the maximum comfortable speed on tarmac without stressing the engine ?
If you watch the 'Wiltshire Man' CZcams channel his latest video titled 'Just A Country Ride' Lextek exhaust etc ( Sorry I don't know how to do the link) he reckons 55-60 mph is a comfortable cruising speed although the Bike will get up to 75-80mph. He gives his thoughts on the Bike at about the 16min mark if you're not interested in the rest of the vid.
Mine is happiest crusing along between 50 to 60 czcams.com/video/-g8pZ4zt85Q/video.html
Cliffhanger, did you get it working again?
Hi, did you find out what the issue was with the bike please?
Well what is the problem?
What was the problem in the end?
Maybe a great bike but to call it a Himalayan when there's poor ground clearance suggests a rethink needed.
The 'poor' ground clearance gives it a manageable seat height for most, so it's a trade off like everything
I'm interested
www.dorothysspeedshop.com/event-details/himalayan-winter-bunkhouse-weekend
Ps mates had a couple issues faulty sidstand switch...
I've heard of a little blue wire on a relay next to the battery and obd connector can come loose.
more electric more problems
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It is dangerous to ride (on road, in built up areas) with one hand off the bars as you do, and sets a bad example, what is your reason for doing this?
It's a bad habit.
Thanks for the concern but ride your own ride.
geoffluck. The sarcastic reply to your comment says all one needs to know about the man.
@@1943klt I had no reasonable response to the original point. I don't have any desire to affect anyone's riding good or bad.
@@1943kltwasn’t at all sarcastic just a choice. No doubt an IAM riders typical comment