How the Best Stories are Written - Prof. Jordan Peterson
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- čas přidán 16. 09. 2017
- Psychology professor Jordan B. Peterson discusses - on the basis of Carl Jung’s theories - how good fiction writers capture your attention.
This is a small excerpt of Jordan Peterson’s comprehensive lecture “2017 Personality 06: Jean Piaget & Constructivism” held at the University of Toronto. You can watch it entirely here: • 2017 Personality 06: J...
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Jordan, what would be an appropriate IQ for a successful screenwriter?
heard what prof peterson said...now it's time to clean my dragon and slay my room
*now it's like, it's time for me to bloody well clean..
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
As long as you have the strength to pull the sponge from the bucket! As you know, only one destined to be King may clean a dragon.
'Gandalf and Dumbledore are the same guy' -- Mr. Miyagi, Rocky
Thank you for keeping these free
when I listen to his lectures I always get the feeling on being put down with my feed on the ground. He turns the chaos of my world into order. But not rigid order but some kind of a natural/organic/compassionate order.
ps: your thumbnails are top G man!
JBP: It could be the same guy.
Sir Ian McKellan: *chuckles in wizard*
Whats ian mckellan got to do with it lmao at least say Tolkein
@@joshkier Ian McKellen had the chance to play Dumbledore
@@lachlandean2773 Mate? 🤣🤣
Well, someone who was familiar with Tolkien's Legendarium would definitely not say Gandalf is the same as Dumbledore, however I agree they serve a similar narrative function, at least in LOTR.
Obviously
The best movies/books are based on The Odyssey. Hero archetype trying to get home must overcome endless obstacles, overcoming a dark night of the soul, while Penelope waits patiently at home. It's a metaphor for our own lives. We're stuck here on Earth trying to get home to God only to be faced with endless obstacles. Script editors in Hollywood can tell producers how much money they will make on a movie based on how close the script matches The Odyssey. So, we see the same story over and over and over and over...
Well said Agrx. I've always thought it was the same but more primate.
Boy meets girl. Girl (or family or power structure) finds boy inadequate. Boy goes and kills a shitload of opponents to that family/power structure/ ideology/whatever and the boy gets girl, fucks, and spawns.
Boy meets girl. Girl....etc., etc.,
It's got nothing to with God or Allah or any other fantastical inventions. It's all about primates.
That's beyond amazing
Well I find that interesting. I find that hollywood does rehash shit all the time, so perhaps they’re being reaffirmed to stick with the same story rather than finding a fresh alternative. I also find it interesting that the dude who first responded to you essentially said that the Hero’s Journey is without god and is primal. You dumb shits the Hero’s Journey is clearly with god and without god. You can clearly see that in the fact that you are both using the form of the Hero’s Journey to get your point across. There is little description of the Hero’s Journey beyond the form that you use to implement it. It has infinite potential realizations (as it is a form of metaphor that has guided culture for most of human history). That’s why you hear JBP saying the same stuff in different metaphors (“Hero slays dragon, Beauty tames beast, Human learns from God, etc etc), it’s all a crack at saying the same thing.
Well I find that interesting. I find that hollywood does rehash shit all the time, so perhaps they’re being reaffirmed to stick with the same story rather than finding a fresh alternative. I also find it interesting that the dude who first responded to you essentially said that the Hero’s Journey is without god and is primal. You dumb shits the Hero’s Journey is clearly with god and without god. You can clearly see that in the fact that you are both using the form of the Hero’s Journey to get your point across. There is little description of the Hero’s Journey beyond the form that you use to implement it. It has infinite potential realizations (as it is a form of metaphor that has guided culture for most of human history). That’s why you hear JBP saying the same stuff in different metaphors (“Hero slays dragon, Beauty tames beast, Human learns from God, etc etc), it’s all a crack at saying the same thing.
@@markcarey8426 "fantastical inventions" ahaha oh dear you poor man
The best. Keep them coming
Useful, thanks!
Thumbnail guy needs a weekly promotion.
the balls you need to make the title of a 3 minute video, ‘How the Best Stories are Written”, man!
Gandalf's not gay!! :D
simontmn But he does enjoy a longer staff ;)
Gandalf had a rivalry with the wizard Saruman before he fell to corruption.
Dumbledore had a romance/rivalry with the wizard Grindelwald before he fell to corruption.
Both of these dark wizards initially set out on the path to create a revolutionary new order for the greater good by studying the dark arts, but were consumed by it. Both of their benevolent counterparts successfully integrated their shadows where the other could not!
Maybe Dumbledore had a tougher time of it, having to overcome the dark side of his own sexuality as well...
Ian McKellen, on the other hand...
WE DON'T CARE, LET GANDALF BE HAPPY!
The hobbits are though.
During the course of the video I pressed the like button twice, Jesus H. Peterson!
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He could easily be a great "WIZARD" in a suit maybe he gets powers from it 🤣🤩
brandon sanderson also talks about the pyramid of abstraction in his lectures
i heard romance (wooing, gentlemanly conduct towards a woman) is only about 1,200 years old. i heard somewhere that the medieval knights created the idea of romance in western culture. before that sex was sex and marriage was for the stability of the community. still love must be as old as people -- caring for children is a selfless act. maybe, i'll think on it.
in medieval Europe it did come in 13th century but it was brought from Middle East and islamic culture
@@filozof9043 Source?
@@ibraheemchoudhry The Quran, Hadiths, Narrations, Biography of Prophet Muhammed PBUH
Have a common stereotype structure and show it in a way that connects with the audience...
Humanizing is a lot more complex than he states. It's rather much a function of style. Jung was never going to write Harry Potter, nor was Jordan Peterson. Not in a thousand years.
Movie with proper plot.
LOTR nerds whining ahead
Specificity? That's a First for this Wordy Woman! lol
I dont understand why the need to create this whole "archetype" thing. These are basic things to us as people so they resonate with us. What's the point of saying that they're archetypes? To understand how to make good stories? We all like sex and winning etc etc, we all know that. Does anyone understand what I'm saying who knows what he's talking about too?
It's not about creating an archetype thing. It's about identifying and naming the "basic things that resonate with us" with a view to better understanding them. With this knowledge we are better able to examine, challenge or support them in stories at a deeper and more interesting level.
What do you think the characters in Tarot are then?
So dumb🤣
@@jeffappleton926 kind of you to answer to this simpleton
Dr Peterson, the first sentence was absolutely blasphemous. Gandalf is 20000x better than Dumbledore.
They play the same archetype. That was his point.
same fucking character