Ivan’s my former classmate so please don’t leave any negative comments . he usually smiles in awkward/uncomfortable situations. he’s always smiling so please don’t hate he’s a very nice person.
Yeah it has been proven by psychological studies that people often either display overt sadness or have the paradoxical effect of smiling in disturbing, uncomfortable, or sad situations. Some say it is a self-soothing mechanism. It is very normal and if anything indicates that it has affected him deeply.
I do that smiling thing too. I hate it. I'm self-conscious about it because I walk away thinking that maybe the other person thinks I'm laughing at the situation when I'm not.
I do the same. Ivan is just trying to be positive in a already depressing situation. His friend who’s little sister passed away knows Ivan means well so who cares what other the people think.
@@888strummer Everybody is not intelligent this person was just simply commenting and being kind. It’s impossible to tell from a small clip that someone is really smart. It’s a compliment and no everyone cannot be intelligent. It dumbs down the word it would have no real meaning behind it because if everybody was really smart why would you make a word signifying that someone is really smart. You can just look around you in the world and can tell that everybody is clearly not that smart.
The neighbor said he was bullied but sounds like he was a psychopath i.e. hurting animals and others. Take a look at our prisons. Full of sociopaths and psychopaths. Parents neglect their duty and this is the outcome.
The News report that I read today said he purchased the rifles used in this horrific mass shooting he purchased legally because he was 18 years old. Maybe they should raise the age limit to 21 and have the purchaser pass a firearm safety class and a psychiatrist test before they can purchase a firearm and if they fail either one ... they can't purchase a firearm.
@@USAcit so you believe 1 random person over the other? truth is we dont know if he was a bully or bullied. the words of some kid that went to his school arent 100% trustworthy.
The judicial system needs to take kids harming animals seriously. It is often a precursor for antisocial personality disorder where a person lacks a conscience and had no problem harming people including their family.
There's often laws on the books criminalizing animal abuse. But all too often the abusers aren't prosecuted, or they plea to a lesser charge. And if they are convicted, the punishment isn't much. Remember Michael Vick the football player dog fighting tycoon ? Now Britain has their version of the footballer who kicked his cat and went so far as to film it. He went down in a game recently, and the people in the stands laughed and heckled him. He needs to do hard time
That and starting fires. I’m so surprised when I hear stuff like this. Still think we need more mental health awareness though and to stop stigmatizing mental health issues. This was preventable.
That murderer was a psychopath. The fact that he hurt animals tells a lot about him. Many sociopaths like to hurt defenseless animals before moving on to humans.
@@alykinns9051 I agree there needs to be strong laws against this and intervention up to and including being committed for psychological evaluation. Hurting animals is a bellwether of deviant behavior. Someone like to hurt kittens or puppies can easily turn into a person who can brutalize children.
One neighbor in an earlier interview said the kids would tease Ramos about his lisp. I'm speculating here, maybe he would try to insult them and they'd turn it on him which "frustrated him" judging from what Ivan is saying. Possible idk.
@@andrewlopez411 not defending what he did or giving him an excuse. but everything is a cause and effect. you think he was just born a predetermined mass murderer? something went wrong in his life that steered him in that direction, whether it was genetic mental illness or caused by the environment surrounding him.
Even if he was bullied so what? I was bullied mercilessly all throughout grade school. Not once did I think oh yeah I’m going to commit this hideous crime. We need to stop trying to excuse this behavior
Not excuse but prevent. If there was no bullying in the first place would this and many occurrences like it happen? think not. Schools need to do more. i have never once in my life seen a teacher stand up for a bullied person.
I don't think it is an excuse but I see it as a contributing factor (just like being a survivor of childhood abuse). I was also bullied in school and I didn't do anything like this. Why is it that people respond differently under similar environments? It's the interaction between our genes and our experiences. Scientists believe that an experience can trigger genes to turn on. For example, some people might have certain genes associated with depression but those genes won't turn on (depression won't manifest) until the person experiences something like childhood abuse. Of course, we also need to consider what happens during pregnancy and infancy so it is not just the experiences you are aware of or remember.
Facts how did he look at those precious innocent kids and do sm so violent and terrible it makes me sick I have been bullied my whole life I would never ever ever ever ever think about do anything like this it’s heart breaking and our world needs help someone that would do this needs help it’s not ok and I pray for the families that lost theirs kids and praying for the community
@@slimjim7411 Some people will get angry at society for their woes, some people get stronger out of it. Mass schooters aren't all cold serpent like killers, some just want to get revenge on society by inflicting as much pain as possible. That's why they go to schools as opposed to places where more adults can be found, they know that killing children would hurt people the most and would make them feel what the shooter has been feeling all throughout their life.
He only went to school with him. Should we interview the 1000s of other kids Salvador went to school with??? 🤦♂️ this cretin just wanted some TV time. They should've talked to people Sal was actually FRIENDS with, maybe people that spent the night at his house, that could speak on the home life/living situation. Not some random he just went to school with.... 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@trevor2414 agree to an extent. What this guy is saying could be true but I also want to see more kids come forward and I also want to know that somebody at least tried to something when they noticed the major red flags
Finally a real interview in these situations. I’m tired of the media going to these shooters being bullied. 90% of the time these shooters are they weirdest ppl ever and this is what they do.
Please this case is different. The guy shot an elementary school indicating he wasn’t bullied because if he was he would shoot his high school. But all the other shooters that shoot their schools, it was probably due to bullying.
And don't the "weirdest ppl ever" typically get bullied in a school setting? This situation seems unique as this shooter was a narcissistic, attention seeking type, but your comment sounds extremely ignorant.
@@mikemugs7 watch the video and hear his words another 300 times if you can’t understand the sociological relevance of what I’m saying. The weirdest ppl ever.
@@strength9621 This situation is unique and seems to be an outlier. Majority of school shooters are bullied. And one of the main reasons they shoot up their schools is because they are social awkward, outcasts which makes them a prime target for bullying. Overlooking that fact is ignorant, just bc this situation doesn't apply
If you're aware of someone abusing/killing animals, that person should be reported. Killing animals is a sign that the next victims are gonna be human beings.
@@coo3ies266 I think they mean by domestic animals (pets like cats , dogs , birds etc . The average person (a person who lives in the city ) doesn't see farm animals frequently.
More so mutilating animals for fun. Not for food or resources. That’s how most murderers start off. Not so much “killing animals” like hunters/farmers.
After the killers mother said he wasn't a violent person but others knew that he would hurt animals and try to bully other people. Sounds more like mama raised a narcissistic monster that she doesn't feel particularly responsible for. This interview needs to be put out there more so people don't try that misunderstood loner defense with him. If they think hurting an animal is fun, it's not long until they graduate to harming people.
Educator here, I've worked with parents of high schoolers that demonstrate anti-social behavior. They don't always know how to reconcile the vision they saw of the child they knew and the red flags they see now. Some do everything they can--counseling, psychiatrists, meds, you name it... EVERYTHING. And still their child manipulates, psychologically abuses, and sometimes even physically abuses the parent. Some parents feel helpless, hopeless, etc. We don't know the context here and it would not be wise to assume it. While she could very well have been a parent who got him no help, she could also have been one who tried everything. That's what's so difficult about these shootings, nothing is cut and dry except the outcome and the ease of access to carry it out. Mental health interventions are needed, sure. But those don't always save the day, either. We need a strategic and comprehensive plan if we want change.
@@gills77 the problem with this "not blaming the parent because they can't figure it out" is that, it's their job to do that. Parents need to be deeply invested in how their children turn out. It's not society's job to pay for the parents inattention
I am NOT AN EXPERT. I'd like to make that clear. But I've spent years listening to and studying lectures of body language experts. It's a hobby and has helped me in my everyday life when dealing with people. And based on this very short interview, what I'm getting from this young man is he's feeling absolute disgust and seething anger. The way he keeps solid, uninterrupted eye contact with the interviewer, and even for a moment facing directly at the camera.... Makes me believe he's telling the truth. If he were making this revelation up, he wouldn't want his face directly linked to it. But the way he angled his face, he had no problem letting the entire country know he was the one exposing the shooter.
I am so glad this boy came out and spoke the truth. It is nice to hear from those who knew the killer well. This also points out faliures in the education system, kids who are known as bullies are allowed to roam freely with other kids and nothing is ever done about them. If Salvador's bullying had been dealt with earlier he probably would not have killed those kids.
Rest in peace to these people....And the problem with shootings like this is most these ppl r known to have serious problems and have made threats and nothing is done.
You need to go interview the three Valde Cops that confronted and then sat back "waiting for backup" doing nothing. Why are they not being called on here? They LET THAT KID GET INTO THE SCHOOL UNCHALLENGED. No shots, no calling the school telling them get out, no attempt to run him down with their vehicles, NOTHING. Three Cowards, armed, trained, cops!, sat there and did nothing.
@@tobibenjamin6097 at the parkland shooting, there was video evidence of the security hiding - their job is to confront shooter - they are trained to only shoot at people with guns trained on them - all they have to do is go to the sound of the weapon. since you are talking about movies - isnt it strange how all of hollywood has a liberal opinion on this , but none of those voices spoke out against alec baldwin killing the producer on set
Yes, but although certain circumstances and relevant facts may not constitute excuse of something: They very well can be an explanation, or at least a trail to a deeper understanding of an outcome or happening. Which in turn could lead to prevention of what may be foreseeable tragedy. Just like hurting/torturing animals is a known sign of a coming to be killer.
True, but if he was going to shoot anyone, he should have lit up his bullies, not some innocent little kids. This is horrific... if he had shot his bullies, people probably would have backed him up to an extent.
This needs to be said. The media should pick this up - it is essential for helping to prevent similar tragedies in the future. Shame on anyone who simply glosses over it or brushes it aside!
Saw a clip of the neighbor who said that the suspect was bullied by his friends. For some reason though, I believe this kid more than that neighbor. He said he knew the suspect well and went to school with him everyday whereas the neighbor only heard it from people. Also, it was something about the way he gave his statement that showed he wasn't completely telling the truth. Then again, who knows? Unless we were actually there to witness who bullied whom, we have no reason to make our own speculations.
I mean how would his neighbor know more than a classmate? Like my neighbors don't know a thing about me or what I do. Unless the parents said something to them
@@Daddywiseclussy or how do you know the classmate wasn’t one who partook in the bullying and didn’t want to get in trouble or have people be suspicious?
@@TonyMontana-mv9ez Not really , he went to school with him , by what you're saying everyone who shared a class with him / basically knew him has blood on their hands .
@@TonyMontana-mv9ez STOP DOING DRUGS AND THEN GO BACK AND LISTEN WELL. HE WAS HIS CLASSMATE NOT HIS FRIEND. PLUS HE DIDNT KNOW THAT GUY WAS GOING TO DO THAT. HE DIDNT SEE THAT GUY FOR YEARS. SALVADOR LET SCHOOL LONG TIME AGO HE DIDNT GRADUATE. SO used common sense pen.dejo🙄
I heard he was known really well by the cops because of his actions. Why couldn't the police take stuff like this more seriously. My neighbor had serious mental health problems and would put everyone in danger around her, but even APS and the police never took it seriously. It took her causing a high speed chase across the county for them to actually make a serious decision.
@@Joseph-rx9tp well they certainly could have gone into that school and try to save people instead of pepper spraying desperate parents! Those cops were WELL armed to do so
Thank you for taking the time and give your point of view that takes courage regardless of what others say he is pointing his view of what he thinks and making a statement the shooter was not a bully most kids his age wouldn’t even want to interview so that alone he didn’t to clear up rumor takes courage and shame on others thinking negative of him smh !!!
Also, supposedly they asked Salvador Ramos’ mom about her son and she said he did what he had to do. The authorities should Definitely pay her a visit.
Ivan Arellano would bully the shooter over wearing Poor clothes ! Ivan is trying to distance himself when they investigate who bully shooter Ivan name will come up please share this comment
@@bazoinksitstheguy5852 I wouldn't say defending, but would you smile on TV after your little sister got killed by the shooter? Real question. And the fact he knew the shooter would hurt animals and he never reported it. Seems to me like he probably bullied the shooter himself.
So, to repeat: The news isn't mentioning this. The Shooter was cruel to animals prior to this occurance. This is a common trait in people who later commit heinous acts. People including Jefferey Dahmer and Jim Jones. What this guy was trying to get across is that the shooter exhibited signs of mental unbalance already, but still had access to an assault rifle. Don't forget his message because the media keeps blaming it on "bullying" which urned out to be false in several cases including this one.
You're right. There is this weird agenda to paint the murderer as being bullied...almost turning them into the victim. Smfh. I'm glad I came across this interview.
Almost every young perpetrator of a mass shooting shares the trait of cruelty to animals. This needs to become a huge red flag, and it needs to be reported. The kid in this interview spoke about ramos' cruelty as if it was a long established pattern of behavior, but obviously no one saw this as a warning sign, and no one reported his abuses of animals. That really makes me sick to my stomach. The police may have failed grievously at this tragedy, but in a way, the community failed itself by ignoring some blatant, horrible signs.
Being bullied, abused, neglected, going to any kind of trauma or family disfunction does not justify criminal behavior. In every case such as this, there are other factors which contributed to the person's criminal behavior. For example, not much is mentioned on the reason this person was not living with the mother. Again no factors or details on the person's life experience should at all justify his/her criminal actions, but it can give understanding and information to help in addressing other cases to prevent these horrifying tragedies. One of the factors is the different agencies which should be involved; they also need to do a better job, such as the easy ways to acquire weapons.
Why so many comments talking nonsense like "well that's not justified even if" justification has nothing to do with it. You can either try to understand this behaviour that's clearly on the menu of humans or bury your head in the sand and say it's evil or sick or this or that. It is what it is. Brain functioning and social environments can clearly create this situation whether you feel it's justified or not.
@@justbreakingballs If you are going to judge my statement as nonsense, do not quote me erroneously for you contradict yourself. If we are going to ignore the causes of all these horrific tragedies, what and the ones who contribute to them; and do nothing about it, we will continue to see more and even worse ones.
How did he see him hurt the animals? Youd think if he posted it on social media we wouldve heard something by now. Or did he just randomly follow his classmate into the woods and witness it? Kid sounds like hes lying, maybe he was the bully.
evil doesnt exist. maybe if you actually tried to understand people better you wouldnt be part of the problem where our society makes people this way. instead of just looking at him and calling him evil like he was just born that way and never couldve been anything better.
@@yangpaan453 you make ONE valid point.. at the very end of your diatrabe. ONE he could have been a different person if not for certain factors. But you do NOT get to blame victims here, you do not denigrate a classmate here who in all likelihood, knew the shooter WAAAAAAAAY better than you could have. Unless you're using a pseudonym and live in Uvalde
@@conniecanas1422 I never claimed I knew him, don’t throw words out my mouth. It’s obvious he was lost and he needed guidance and support which if he had he would’ve never done this
He classmates knew he abused animals and didn't do anything? If I knew of anyone back in high school abusing animals I would have kicked their a$$ first and then reported them.
Bullying must be stopped immediately in every social context like school, workplace, home. How? Defend yourself, ask for help. The mental damage does not stop and propagates for generations.
Animal cruelty is a RED FLAG!!!.. a common feature of serial killers.We had one in our city who killed cats and then later was found guilty in the beheading of a man.
So Horribly Sad. So many families don't have emotional support nor know how to use emotional supportive words especially in very small and or divided families. Celebrate Recovery meetings 🙏
I am not trying to be a devils advocate here, but are there any mechanisms in place for actually reporting odd or disturbing behavior in a child such as the mistreatment of animals or the harassment of classmates? What happens after a report? Is treatment mandated or are guardians simply informed of the behavior in the hopes they seek treatment? I guess I mean to ask what sort of interventions are actually available in the case of minors who have not actually committed crimes, but are only behaving abnormally? It appears he was just counting down the days until he turned eighteen to commit this atrocity so I really am stumbling trying to not just conclude "well, he's evil... couldn't have been prevented."
He knew him And I’ve seen alot of interviews & yet to actually see a person directly say he was bullied. Ya are assuming like some unscrupulous media reporters
0:45 "He [the shooter] would hurt animals." The FBI has known for decades about the connection between people who hurt animals and who then go on to hurt people.
Ivan’s my former classmate so please don’t leave any negative comments . he usually smiles in awkward/uncomfortable situations. he’s always smiling so please don’t hate he’s a very nice person.
Yeah it has been proven by psychological studies that people often either display overt sadness or have the paradoxical effect of smiling in disturbing, uncomfortable, or sad situations. Some say it is a self-soothing mechanism. It is very normal and if anything indicates that it has affected him deeply.
I do that smiling thing too. I hate it. I'm self-conscious about it because I walk away thinking that maybe the other person thinks I'm laughing at the situation when I'm not.
Yes, a lot of ppl exhibit nervous behaviors like laughing in uncomfortable situations and more ppl need to realize this
That’s a natural response
I do the same. Ivan is just trying to be positive in a already depressing situation. His friend who’s little sister passed away knows Ivan means well so who cares what other the people think.
Why would they cut off this young intelligent boy, Ivan's, interview? Let the young man, Ivan, speak and tell us his observations and insight.
The media is just terrible
Protect the lies the media tell us
why are you calling him intelligent just because he's making unproven claims?
@@yangpaan453 She feels he is intelligent; I sort of thought he was also
@@888strummer Everybody is not intelligent this person was just simply commenting and being kind. It’s impossible to tell from a small clip that someone is really smart. It’s a compliment and no everyone cannot be intelligent. It dumbs down the word it would have no real meaning behind it because if everybody was really smart why would you make a word signifying that someone is really smart. You can just look around you in the world and can tell that everybody is clearly not that smart.
Hopefully this information gets put out more. People who commit evil aren’t always the one being bullied like some people automatically assume.
Not always, but sometimes.
It’s still a worthy factor to keep in mind and try to work to recognize/prevent
The neighbor said he was bullied but sounds like he was a psychopath i.e. hurting animals and others. Take a look at our prisons. Full of sociopaths and psychopaths. Parents neglect their duty and this is the outcome.
The News report that I read today said he purchased the rifles used in this horrific mass shooting he purchased legally because he was 18 years old. Maybe they should raise the age limit to 21 and have the purchaser pass a firearm safety class and a psychiatrist test before they can purchase a firearm and if they fail either one ... they can't purchase a firearm.
@@USAcit so you believe 1 random person over the other? truth is we dont know if he was a bully or bullied. the words of some kid that went to his school arent 100% trustworthy.
The dude in the video seems slightly arrogant. I’m willing to bet he bullied Salvador.
is there a longer version? this guy actually sounds articulate and gives actual information
so no longer version?
@@jenswrld999 fr I wanna know more
@@jenswrld999 I guess not
Media never want you to know the full story
The judicial system needs to take kids harming animals seriously. It is often a precursor for antisocial personality disorder where a person lacks a conscience and had no problem harming people including their family.
Yes. These individuals choose victims based on who can’t fight back as easily. Animals, the elderly, disabled, children, etc. It’s terrifying!
It's so sad we haven't caught up with these kind of laws. We really should be more vigilant for this kind of behavior.
There's often laws on the books criminalizing animal abuse. But all too often the abusers aren't prosecuted, or they plea to a lesser charge. And if they are convicted, the punishment isn't much. Remember Michael Vick the football player dog fighting tycoon ? Now Britain has their version of the footballer who kicked his cat and went so far as to film it. He went down in a game recently, and the people in the stands laughed and heckled him. He needs to do hard time
That is so true
That and starting fires. I’m so surprised when I hear stuff like this. Still think we need more mental health awareness though and to stop stigmatizing mental health issues. This was preventable.
That murderer was a psychopath. The fact that he hurt animals tells a lot about him. Many sociopaths like to hurt defenseless animals before moving on to humans.
Yeah that should raise a red flag 🚩.
There should be strong law protecting animals. Not only for the animals' sake, but also because the perpetrators often move on to humans.
@@alykinns9051 I agree there needs to be strong laws against this and intervention up to and including being committed for psychological evaluation. Hurting animals is a bellwether of deviant behavior. Someone like to hurt kittens or puppies can easily turn into a person who can brutalize children.
My neighbor beats his dog and brags about it. Nothing will ever be done because we live in a small town full of crooked cops and corrupt authorities.
Indeed...
Anyone torturing animals - should be put into an insane asylum and forgotten about.
Not even being facetious.
Even if he was bullied that in no way justifies injuring or killing people.
Facts not like he shoot up his school
i know right
but the fact that he wasn’t bullied and bullied others makes him so much more if a coward
He said he wasnt
@@elvaes6331 thats not the point of the comment
I’ve always hated bullies growing up. I was told that if you ignore them they’ll stop but apparently this bully found new ways to torment others
I dont believe he was a bully. The interviewed kid seems off.
I hope your not saying he had an excuse. According to a survivor he said “time to die”
@@yangpaan453 really he seems pretty normal to me.
One neighbor in an earlier interview said the kids would tease Ramos about his lisp. I'm speculating here, maybe he would try to insult them and they'd turn it on him which "frustrated him" judging from what Ivan is saying. Possible idk.
@@andrewlopez411 not defending what he did or giving him an excuse. but everything is a cause and effect. you think he was just born a predetermined mass murderer? something went wrong in his life that steered him in that direction, whether it was genetic mental illness or caused by the environment surrounding him.
Rest in Peace to all the innocent children!! taken wrongly by a psychopath
He is a terrorist
Yes I agree poor kids they didn't deserve it 🤍👼🏼
Its dismissive to call him a psychopath
@@joeyhawk2737 shut up
He is not a “psychopath “. He is an 18 year old high school dropout angry and exposed to Right wing gun culture.
Even if he was bullied so what? I was bullied mercilessly all throughout grade school. Not once did I think oh yeah I’m going to commit this hideous crime. We need to stop trying to excuse this behavior
Not excuse but prevent. If there was no bullying in the first place would this and many occurrences like it happen? think not. Schools need to do more. i have never once in my life seen a teacher stand up for a bullied person.
I don't think it is an excuse but I see it as a contributing factor (just like being a survivor of childhood abuse). I was also bullied in school and I didn't do anything like this. Why is it that people respond differently under similar environments? It's the interaction between our genes and our experiences. Scientists believe that an experience can trigger genes to turn on. For example, some people might have certain genes associated with depression but those genes won't turn on (depression won't manifest) until the person experiences something like childhood abuse. Of course, we also need to consider what happens during pregnancy and infancy so it is not just the experiences you are aware of or remember.
Facts how did he look at those precious innocent kids and do sm so violent and terrible it makes me sick I have been bullied my whole life I would never ever ever ever ever think about do anything like this it’s heart breaking and our world needs help someone that would do this needs help it’s not ok and I pray for the families that lost theirs kids and praying for the community
It's a combination of things people try to give 1 reason when people are ultimately more complex.
@@slimjim7411 Some people will get angry at society for their woes, some people get stronger out of it. Mass schooters aren't all cold serpent like killers, some just want to get revenge on society by inflicting as much pain as possible. That's why they go to schools as opposed to places where more adults can be found, they know that killing children would hurt people the most and would make them feel what the shooter has been feeling all throughout their life.
I wish they spoke more with this gentleman about him.
The media only uses the soundbites they want. They don't give the full understanding or raw interviews that people deserve
@Markarth Guard Moronic comment.
@Markarth Guard plot twist you never become a dad and raise chillun
He only went to school with him. Should we interview the 1000s of other kids Salvador went to school with??? 🤦♂️ this cretin just wanted some TV time. They should've talked to people Sal was actually FRIENDS with, maybe people that spent the night at his house, that could speak on the home life/living situation. Not some random he just went to school with.... 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@trevor2414 agree to an extent. What this guy is saying could be true but I also want to see more kids come forward and I also want to know that somebody at least tried to something when they noticed the major red flags
Finally a real interview in these situations. I’m tired of the media going to these shooters being bullied. 90% of the time these shooters are they weirdest ppl ever and this is what they do.
Negative
Please this case is different. The guy shot an elementary school indicating he wasn’t bullied because if he was he would shoot his high school. But all the other shooters that shoot their schools, it was probably due to bullying.
And don't the "weirdest ppl ever" typically get bullied in a school setting? This situation seems unique as this shooter was a narcissistic, attention seeking type, but your comment sounds extremely ignorant.
@@mikemugs7 watch the video and hear his words another 300 times if you can’t understand the sociological relevance of what I’m saying.
The weirdest ppl ever.
@@strength9621 This situation is unique and seems to be an outlier. Majority of school shooters are bullied. And one of the main reasons they shoot up their schools is because they are social awkward, outcasts which makes them a prime target for bullying. Overlooking that fact is ignorant, just bc this situation doesn't apply
If you're aware of someone abusing/killing animals, that person should be reported. Killing animals is a sign that the next victims are gonna be human beings.
By that logic then all farmers should be reported too right?
@@coo3ies266 I think they mean by domestic animals (pets like cats , dogs , birds etc . The average person (a person who lives in the city ) doesn't see farm animals frequently.
More so mutilating animals for fun. Not for food or resources. That’s how most murderers start off. Not so much “killing animals” like hunters/farmers.
@@thekaren1111 lots of people should be reported then
Finish my sentence, people who go hunting or people that eat animals that someone else killed, should_________________.
After the killers mother said he wasn't a violent person but others knew that he would hurt animals and try to bully other people.
Sounds more like mama raised a narcissistic monster that she doesn't feel particularly responsible for.
This interview needs to be put out there more so people don't try that misunderstood loner defense with him.
If they think hurting an animal is fun, it's not long until they graduate to harming people.
People seem to find it hard to believe that a disturb child could hide things from their parents…. It’s not as uncommon as most people think.
His mom wasn’t in the picture.
Educator here, I've worked with parents of high schoolers that demonstrate anti-social behavior.
They don't always know how to reconcile the vision they saw of the child they knew and the red flags they see now. Some do everything they can--counseling, psychiatrists, meds, you name it... EVERYTHING. And still their child manipulates, psychologically abuses, and sometimes even physically abuses the parent. Some parents feel helpless, hopeless, etc.
We don't know the context here and it would not be wise to assume it. While she could very well have been a parent who got him no help, she could also have been one who tried everything. That's what's so difficult about these shootings, nothing is cut and dry except the outcome and the ease of access to carry it out.
Mental health interventions are needed, sure. But those don't always save the day, either. We need a strategic and comprehensive plan if we want change.
@@gills77 the problem with this "not blaming the parent because they can't figure it out" is that, it's their job to do that. Parents need to be deeply invested in how their children turn out. It's not society's job to pay for the parents inattention
This shooting never happened
I am NOT AN EXPERT. I'd like to make that clear. But I've spent years listening to and studying lectures of body language experts. It's a hobby and has helped me in my everyday life when dealing with people. And based on this very short interview, what I'm getting from this young man is he's feeling absolute disgust and seething anger. The way he keeps solid, uninterrupted eye contact with the interviewer, and even for a moment facing directly at the camera.... Makes me believe he's telling the truth. If he were making this revelation up, he wouldn't want his face directly linked to it. But the way he angled his face, he had no problem letting the entire country know he was the one exposing the shooter.
But he wasn’t
You have eyes, well done
We were all wondering what you thought about it.
He’s lying he’s smiling
@@melarie205 that’s not how it works bro some people smile in situations like this
Young guy with great attitude towards things, would not be surprised to see this man excel later in life
Lol you get all of that from just this?? Man you’re clueless.
I am so glad this boy came out and spoke the truth. It is nice to hear from those who knew the killer well. This also points out faliures in the education system, kids who are known as bullies are allowed to roam freely with other kids and nothing is ever done about them. If Salvador's bullying had been dealt with earlier he probably would not have killed those kids.
They should put out the full interview from this kid.
Por eso deben de castigar el abuso animal, atrás de un maltratador de animales hay un asesino !
Yo también estoy acuerdo contigo
Agreed
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AMEN
Ya lo hacemos. Es dificil ecnontrar los casos donde occurio porque los animales no piden/llaman por ayuda.
Rest in peace to these people....And the problem with shootings like this is most these ppl r known to have serious problems and have made threats and nothing is done.
I heard he was known really well by the cops because of his actions. Why can't the police take stuff like that more seriously.
But what can police do if he hasn't done anything illegal yet.
@@ltran25 actually he was arrested 4 years ago for threatening to shoot in school.
Nothing is done about it . Like gun reform? Blame Republicans.
You need to go interview the three Valde Cops that confronted and then sat back "waiting for backup" doing nothing. Why are they not being called on here? They LET THAT KID GET INTO THE SCHOOL UNCHALLENGED. No shots, no calling the school telling them get out, no attempt to run him down with their vehicles, NOTHING. Three Cowards, armed, trained, cops!, sat there and did nothing.
Unfortunately it's not like the movies, if they don't know anything about the situation, going in unprepared could be worse
@@tobibenjamin6097 at the parkland shooting, there was video evidence of the security hiding - their job is to confront shooter - they are trained to only shoot at people with guns trained on them - all they have to do is go to the sound of the weapon.
since you are talking about movies - isnt it strange how all of hollywood has a liberal opinion on this , but none of those voices spoke out against alec baldwin killing the producer on set
Yep. Cowards. They had no problem arresting parents trying to save their children who were bleeding out though.
@@johngarza124 100%
I congratulate the Border Patrol Agents who finally went in and did what had to be done.
bullying is **NOT** an excuse for ANYTHING.... **EVER**
Yes, but although certain circumstances and relevant facts may not constitute excuse of something: They very well can be an explanation, or at least a trail to a deeper understanding of an outcome or happening. Which in turn could lead to prevention of what may be foreseeable tragedy.
Just like hurting/torturing animals is a known sign of a coming to be killer.
True, but if he was going to shoot anyone, he should have lit up his bullies, not some innocent little kids. This is horrific... if he had shot his bullies, people probably would have backed him up to an extent.
@@Zenigundam he shouldve lit up this clown getting interviewed. Smurking as if something is funny.
@@Zenigundam @xCeraMiK Do you not believe the kid being interviewed when he says the shooter was not bullied, but rather just a twisted individual?
@@Zenigundam we just watched the same video right?
This needs to be said. The media should pick this up - it is essential for helping to prevent similar tragedies in the future. Shame on anyone who simply glosses over it or brushes it aside!
Interview is way too short! He spoke so well, this gives us the insight of what to look out for in other people!! Media sucks!
Saw a clip of the neighbor who said that the suspect was bullied by his friends. For some reason though, I believe this kid more than that neighbor. He said he knew the suspect well and went to school with him everyday whereas the neighbor only heard it from people. Also, it was something about the way he gave his statement that showed he wasn't completely telling the truth. Then again, who knows? Unless we were actually there to witness who bullied whom, we have no reason to make our own speculations.
I'm thinking he got bullied by his so called friends and when he tried to be the bully people didn't take him serious.
Yea, it can be both, probably is both.
Hurt people hurt people, it’s corny but can be true. We need to work on that
I mean how would his neighbor know more than a classmate? Like my neighbors don't know a thing about me or what I do. Unless the parents said something to them
@@Daddywiseclussy or how do you know the classmate wasn’t one who partook in the bullying and didn’t want to get in trouble or have people be suspicious?
@@wayof3249 they would know more, wouldn't they? That's why I'm saying how would a neighbor know
Ivan is such a great kid…..love this guy
Ivan has blood on his hand. He knew the shooter had issues but doesn't say anything.
@@TonyMontana-mv9ez Not really , he went to school with him , by what you're saying everyone who shared a class with him / basically knew him has blood on their hands .
@@TonyMontana-mv9ez that doesn’t make any sense your basically saying he is at fault how?
@@chozu4108 he knew the guy killed animals and he didn't tell anyone. Do you know torturing animals is against the law?
@@TonyMontana-mv9ez STOP DOING DRUGS AND THEN GO BACK AND LISTEN WELL. HE WAS HIS CLASSMATE NOT HIS FRIEND. PLUS HE DIDNT KNOW THAT GUY WAS GOING TO DO THAT. HE DIDNT SEE THAT GUY FOR YEARS. SALVADOR LET SCHOOL LONG TIME AGO HE DIDNT GRADUATE. SO used common sense pen.dejo🙄
"He would hurt animals"
That is how it starts...
Shocker...mass gunman is know to hurt animals...yet animal torture/ cruelty is never taken seriously???
Well-spoken young man
thank you for speaking up ivan. so much love to you, ur friends, family, and community 🤍
This dude seems so nice and genuine. So sorry for what he's been through.
0:55 aw that ending, the world needs more real friends like that
He seems so cool, and it's so nice to hear someone directly involved with this being so compassionate despite everything that happened
Ivan seems like such a solid young man. Proud of you for being brave and compassionate friend and community member ❤
Rest In Peace to the victims and to the families
this is so sad dawg I can't even imagine what I would do if that was my little sister
this person smile I think he’s the one pushed this guy dude what he did.
What's ever in the dark will Comes out to the light
I heard he was known really well by the cops because of his actions. Why couldn't the police take stuff like this more seriously. My neighbor had serious mental health problems and would put everyone in danger around her, but even APS and the police never took it seriously. It took her causing a high speed chase across the county for them to actually make a serious decision.
The police are limited in the actions they can take by the law. We need to ask law makers why they are not doing enough.
@@Joseph-rx9tp well they certainly could have gone into that school and try to save people instead of pepper spraying desperate parents! Those cops were WELL armed to do so
@@a.m.9474 Yeah most definitely. I was referring to why they cant just arrest people who act sketchy, but havnt committed a crime yet.
I’m questioning where did they get the monsters photo from?! That looks like a mug shot!
@@adilenegarcia6506 that's probably one they took from a past arrest.
Ivan, you are a brave, honest young man, with much INTEGRITY. Stand tall as you speak your Truth.
Thank you for taking the time and give your point of view that takes courage regardless of what others say he is pointing his view of what he thinks and making a statement the shooter was not a bully most kids his age wouldn’t even want to interview so that alone he didn’t to clear up rumor takes courage and shame on others thinking negative of him smh !!!
Spookface liar 🤥I wonder how much money 💰 he got for the little bit interview 🤔
Fi
Thank you young man for your honesty.
Weird that he’s smiling. Last thing I would do if my lil siblings was murdered is smile.
He was nervous
Well done Ivan and thank you WFAA for actually putting the truth out there!
Also, supposedly they asked Salvador Ramos’ mom about her son and she said he did what he had to do. The authorities should Definitely pay her a visit.
Wonder where her son got it from..
She didn't say that. She said he must of had reasons. At least get it straight.
Ivan Arellano would bully the shooter over wearing Poor clothes ! Ivan is trying to distance himself when they investigate who bully shooter Ivan name will come up please share this comment
are you seriously defending a mass murderer right now
@@bazoinksitstheguy5852 I wouldn't say defending, but would you smile on TV after your little sister got killed by the shooter? Real question. And the fact he knew the shooter would hurt animals and he never reported it. Seems to me like he probably bullied the shooter himself.
Defending??? I’m making sure everyone involve gets exposed !! Actions and ripple affect
So, to repeat: The news isn't mentioning this. The Shooter was cruel to animals prior to this occurance. This is a common trait in people who later commit heinous acts. People including Jefferey Dahmer and Jim Jones. What this guy was trying to get across is that the shooter exhibited signs of mental unbalance already, but still had access to an assault rifle. Don't forget his message because the media keeps blaming it on "bullying" which urned out to be false in several cases including this one.
You're right. There is this weird agenda to paint the murderer as being bullied...almost turning them into the victim. Smfh. I'm glad I came across this interview.
Almost every young perpetrator of a mass shooting shares the trait of cruelty to animals. This needs to become a huge red flag, and it needs to be reported. The kid in this interview spoke about ramos' cruelty as if it was a long established pattern of behavior, but obviously no one saw this as a warning sign, and no one reported his abuses of animals. That really makes me sick to my stomach. The police may have failed grievously at this tragedy, but in a way, the community failed itself by ignoring some blatant, horrible signs.
Ivan Arellano was one of the bully’s and is to be blame for the shooter being traumatize
Agree
The shooter is still in the wrong though, even if he was bullied, it doesn't mean he could take it out on other people
shout out to this Brave young man. Stand up for you community. 💪🏽💙 Rest up to all for were lost and may the survivors find peace. We are all we have
Thank you for speaking up.
Being bullied, abused, neglected, going to any kind of trauma or family disfunction does not justify criminal behavior. In every case such as this, there are other factors which contributed to the person's criminal behavior. For example, not much is mentioned on the reason this person was not living with the mother. Again no factors or details on the person's life experience should at all justify his/her criminal actions, but it can give understanding and information to help in addressing other cases to prevent these horrifying tragedies. One of the factors is the different agencies which should be involved; they also need to do a better job, such as the easy ways to acquire weapons.
Why so many comments talking nonsense like "well that's not justified even if" justification has nothing to do with it. You can either try to understand this behaviour that's clearly on the menu of humans or bury your head in the sand and say it's evil or sick or this or that. It is what it is. Brain functioning and social environments can clearly create this situation whether you feel it's justified or not.
@@justbreakingballs If you are going to judge my statement as nonsense, do not quote me erroneously for you contradict yourself. If we are going to ignore the causes of all these horrific tragedies, what and the ones who contribute to them; and do nothing about it, we will continue to see more and even worse ones.
we need more news like this that tell us more about the context
Really wanted to see the full sound bite from this kid. I hate how news channels cut important footage like this out.
I think he's lying.
She was my mother’s cousin’s granddaughter. My family has been grieving over this.
Why is the dude smiling explaining what happend
He probably bullied the killer
Rest In peace
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I’m so sorry this happened 😔
Source: trust me bro.
I wish the teachers would
Contact the parents every time they saw something. That boy who said he would hurt animals , he should have said something.
he must been afraid of him but at the same time he had a right to still open his mouth and say something
How did he see him hurt the animals? Youd think if he posted it on social media we wouldve heard something by now. Or did he just randomly follow his classmate into the woods and witness it? Kid sounds like hes lying, maybe he was the bully.
@@yangpaan453 yall are reaching so hard, it's a small town there is literally like 1 park and everyone in town knows each other..........
It’s his fault this all happened. Why didn’t he say something.
@@plutoloco2378 bro what💀did you just blame some random high school classmate because HE chose to do that? Seriously?
Thank you for telling the truth
His smiling is very suspicious.
ngl this guy is pretty creepy the way he is smiling
Those are early signs of a person being controlled by the dark side. That’s why he showed no mercy.
The gunman was just pure evil
evil doesnt exist. maybe if you actually tried to understand people better you wouldnt be part of the problem where our society makes people this way. instead of just looking at him and calling him evil like he was just born that way and never couldve been anything better.
@Lupe Gandara I don't even understand from where and who gave such an idiotic comment saying "evil doesn't exist" soo many likes
Yang paan has been all over this topic you see..making awful assumptions about this boy in the interview
@@yangpaan453 you make ONE valid point.. at the very end of your diatrabe. ONE he could have been a different person if not for certain factors. But you do NOT get to blame victims here, you do not denigrate a classmate here who in all likelihood, knew the shooter WAAAAAAAAY better than you could have. Unless you're using a pseudonym and live in Uvalde
@@wizardwiz9218 I know
Salvador Ramos needed a true friend, love and affection
I feel bad for him
@@melarie205 Then u should of done something since you pretend to know him.
@@conniecanas1422 I never claimed I knew him, don’t throw words out my mouth. It’s obvious he was lost and he needed guidance and support which if he had he would’ve never done this
Thank you for telling the truth cause people was really believing he was bullied
Body language says this guy is lying. Duper's delight.
True
Really glad he got to get this message out
this guy is smiling while saying all these, i wont believe a word from him
lol how old are you...not much life experience for you yet huh?
Same and his sister is dead he’s smiling
@@melarie205 Did you not watch the video? His sister didn't die. His friend's sister died.
@@conniecanas1422 my neighbour's cat die, i wont published that to the media while smirking
He classmates knew he abused animals and didn't do anything? If I knew of anyone back in high school abusing animals I would have kicked their a$$ first and then reported them.
This dude faking, with that smirk. that's his 5 second of fame
Got to love that smile.
Thanks young man for tell us truth that you know first hand.
Its always the parents fault for not loving & giving their kids the proper way of seeing things & being with them mentally & physically
No respect for animals seems very common for such people.
@@thekaren1111 Thank you! well said.
Oh my gosh, I know right. You must be a vegan, if you are commenting such thing.
Bullying must be stopped immediately in every social context like school, workplace, home. How? Defend yourself, ask for help. The mental damage does not stop and propagates for generations.
did you even watch the video? he wasn't bullied.
@@braesidebikes4344 I talked about the shooter, who seems was bullied.
Animal cruelty is a RED FLAG!!!.. a common feature of serial killers.We had one in our city who killed cats and then later was found guilty in the beheading of a man.
We cant trust he wasnt bullied, just because 1 person said so.
Doesn't make up for him killing all those people. Bullied or not.
Why are you smiling??
Prayers for these people
All these kids know he hurt animals and yet there was never a therapist alerted ?
There were plenty of red flags about the gunman, but his parents did nothing to get him help.
Exactly he needed help no one saw it that’s the sad part young man !!!
so did you tell anyone about this guy hurting animals before this Interview??
Question: Why does this guy have a smile on his face throughout?
Nope, that’s not it. He looks calm, his breathing looks fine and blinks normally - not a sign of someone who’s nervous in front of a camera.
If you knew he hurt animals, why did you not report him for animal cruelty?
Why do you assume he did not report it?
Dude can’t stop smiling, got your 15 min
So Horribly Sad. So many families don't have emotional support nor know how to use emotional supportive words especially in very small and or divided families. Celebrate Recovery meetings 🙏
We needed the electric chair for Ramos
He’s lying he’s the one that bullied Salvador
Why didn’t you speak up?
Obviously Ramos was not okay,.He is not the victim,.Thank you to clear that.
I am not trying to be a devils advocate here, but are there any mechanisms in place for actually reporting odd or disturbing behavior in a child such as the mistreatment of animals or the harassment of classmates? What happens after a report? Is treatment mandated or are guardians simply informed of the behavior in the hopes they seek treatment? I guess I mean to ask what sort of interventions are actually available in the case of minors who have not actually committed crimes, but are only behaving abnormally? It appears he was just counting down the days until he turned eighteen to commit this atrocity so I really am stumbling trying to not just conclude "well, he's evil... couldn't have been prevented."
I really like this boy’s candor! Instead of giving same old rhetoric. Great job
How does he know the kid wasn't getting bullied?
Bullying is usually one way right? Bullies usually don’t get bullied themselves because everyone is scared of them it’s like a power thing I thought
He knew him
And I’ve seen alot of interviews & yet to actually see a person directly say he was bullied. Ya are assuming like some unscrupulous media reporters
0:45 "He [the shooter] would hurt animals." The FBI has known for decades about the connection between people who hurt animals and who then go on to hurt people.
I smile and laugh in terrible or uncomfortable situations because I am trying not to break down crying in front of everyone.
How did he go directly to the door that was propped open???? What are the odds of that? He didn't go door to door looking for a way in...?????!!!!!
I wish he would stop smiling
I don't buy the mental illness/bullied thing. Most people that do stuff like this are just born monsters.
EXACTLY
Usually on drugs or mental problems, there is no such thing as a "born monster"
Prayers
Why do they cut the video??? Why don't they play everything he said about Ramos?
It's scripted.