Players Are Furious At Cities Skylines 2 Again

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  • @BellularNews
    @BellularNews  Před 2 měsíci +28

    oin us at bellular.games for early access content, 20 editions of 'Loading Screen' a month and to support our team!

    • @l-l
      @l-l Před 2 měsíci +5

      Typo at the beginning of this comment

    • @Chewbert
      @Chewbert Před 2 měsíci +20

      Oin

    • @Azdeus
      @Azdeus Před 2 měsíci +1

      I don't know if this's true, I haven't read it myself, but I have no reason to not believe it, I have read some comments from modders that point out that paradox mods forces you to give up all the rights to what you create there to them. It might be worth looking into.

    • @--_DJ_--
      @--_DJ_-- Před 2 měsíci

      Does the bell matter to the almighty algo? I am subbed to too many people to push it for everyone.

    • @bryanbadonde9484
      @bryanbadonde9484 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Oined. Been wanting to oin for a while and finally got around to it. A pleasure to oin you at last.

  • @TheChoosh
    @TheChoosh Před 2 měsíci +1270

    City Skylines forget they replaced a failing city building sim in the form of SimCity. It could happen to them.

    • @effrumtheretardo
      @effrumtheretardo Před 2 měsíci +157

      You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

    • @OhmegaWolf
      @OhmegaWolf Před 2 měsíci +25

      Theres plenty of competition in develpoment, they can step up or fall behind those are their only choices now.

    • @GalvayraPHX
      @GalvayraPHX Před 2 měsíci +27

      Looks like they also speedran to the failing part...

    • @no.one.2
      @no.one.2 Před 2 měsíci +2

      It is happening to them.

    • @spikem5950
      @spikem5950 Před 2 měsíci +43

      ​@@GalvayraPHXNot a speedrun, this is an ongoing thing with Paradox. This is why I keep telling people who think Paradox would handle a Total War style game better than CA that the grass is sure af not greener on the other side.

  • @brownshinobi
    @brownshinobi Před 2 měsíci +803

    Cities Skylines 2 going the SimCity route is so disappointing

    • @MauseDays
      @MauseDays Před 2 měsíci +42

      worse. SimCity into the future was actually a straight up awsome dlc. It changed the entire game into a build your own cyberpunk night city and it was really really good. This is just a scam.

    • @rasenche4562
      @rasenche4562 Před 2 měsíci +7

      I wouldnt say that.. Simshitty had prettymuch no potencial to be good the way the maps where designed and stuff worked. CS2 has loads of potencial. Its just drowned out under MVP shit.

    • @susangoaway
      @susangoaway Před 2 měsíci +15

      Not just going, but speedrunning it.
      Either way, Sim City 4 still reigns superior.

    • @Samuel88853
      @Samuel88853 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@MauseDays Yep. I play SIm City to this day. Better game than CS

    • @mamehaze
      @mamehaze Před 2 měsíci +11

      There are definitely EA vibes to this, yes.
      I think that's the problem, it launched in a state where the game felt almost entirely incomplete. You looked at what was there, and kinda just assumed they'd fix it up with a few years of free feature and content updates much like how No Man's Sky managed to dig itself out of a hole.
      Instead it's now quite clear that you're not going to be getting any more for your money and that basic things that should be free updates are going to cost you close to the price of buying the game again without even scratching the surface of what's missing.
      I waited before buying this after knowing a few others who did buy it on launch only to find it so severely lacking in everything it wasn't worth the install space or download bandwidth. The trajectory being shown now means I'm confident I won't be buying this game in the future because there's no redemption arc to be seen here. I imagine a lot of the negative reviews are from those early buyers who were expecting to eventually get a finished game without having to pay again and again for weak DLC and now know there's no hope of that.

  • @Kant3n
    @Kant3n Před 2 měsíci +855

    "BUT THE STOCK PRICE"
    God forbid a company take a hit for *one* quarter to keep their operation sustainable.

    • @rageagainstmyhatchet
      @rageagainstmyhatchet Před 2 měsíci

      They could have made millions next year, but choose to make thousands this year...
      That's executive suicide.

    • @Pazuzu4All
      @Pazuzu4All Před 2 měsíci +51

      If a company doesn't deliver, shareholders can demand new management.

    • @MrDoggo23
      @MrDoggo23 Před 2 měsíci +83

      Welcome to stock market. Whore it out to investors baby!

    • @thebluehat6814
      @thebluehat6814 Před 2 měsíci +116

      it is genuinely so mortifying to see that the modern world isn't run on passion and desire to make something, and even the people with the highest positions in a company can just get replaced because people they've never even met in person didn't see them as profitable

    • @admiralwaltz321
      @admiralwaltz321 Před 2 měsíci +130

      stock market was a mistake

  • @mightylink65
    @mightylink65 Před 2 měsíci +1405

    The game really feels like a scam, players are discovering a lot of those graphs are faked and aren't actually influencing your city, it's literally smoke and mirrors.

    • @keizervanenerc5180
      @keizervanenerc5180 Před 2 měsíci +168

      I wouldn't go so far as it being a scam, and more as "Paradox forced CO to release the game more than a year before it was ready so they had to slap everything together and pray it doesn't fully crash and burn"

    • @incubus_the_man
      @incubus_the_man Před 2 měsíci +63

      I think they intend for it to work as advertised. There's no incentive to not deliver on that. It's just that they couldn't make the code work, so they're BSing us until they get it fixed.

    • @franzeusq
      @franzeusq Před 2 měsíci +105

      ​@@keizervanenerc5180 Many people denying reality. that pdx has pressured them. It doesn't justify them being dishonest about it.

    • @JayMaverick
      @JayMaverick Před 2 měsíci +161

      ​@@incubus_the_manoh so BSing paying customers is fine because "they had good intentions."
      That's some hardcore copium.

    • @thecooljohn100
      @thecooljohn100 Před 2 měsíci +41

      Scam is pushing it. It's a deeply troubling situation for the community that fell in love with the competency of the first game. Competency which seems to have been thrown to the side in favor of pushing out a product. This is not the developer's fault, it's the publisher's.

  • @prospect2664
    @prospect2664 Před 2 měsíci +359

    imagine getting all the DLC in skylines 1 for hundreds of euros and then having to buy the same DLC on skylines 2 again and they havent fixed any of the bugs

    • @phantomstarlight1366
      @phantomstarlight1366 Před 2 měsíci +23

      Honestly. I held off on CS1 for this reason for a couple years. But before CS2 officially came out, I already lost interest. Things like experience based city leveling just sounded stupid to me. Best case scenario you could build giant ghost towns and be rewarded for it.

    • @Caelumization
      @Caelumization Před 2 měsíci +9

      This reminds me of sims 3 to sims 4, but they did it dirty too ! Its just worse.

    • @gucciguy3408
      @gucciguy3408 Před 2 měsíci +16

      Average Paradox move sadly here. Also for most EA games that have dlc.

    • @kraizerxthesimp46
      @kraizerxthesimp46 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@gucciguy3408 Paradox is EA at home, DLC hungry

    • @Zack_Wester
      @Zack_Wester Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@Caelumization I have no problem whit buying the sims 3 pets when I had the sims 2 pets.
      problem whit the sims 4 pets vs the sims 3 pet was that you got way less in the sims 4 then you did in the sims 3 or 2.

  • @Carsonplaysgamessss
    @Carsonplaysgamessss Před 2 měsíci +299

    We are going on 6-months post launch and there has been no material change in the game since launch. An absolute disgrace.

    • @The1Corrupted
      @The1Corrupted Před 2 měsíci +8

      Even in terms of the performance problems? This sounds awful.

    • @michaelknopp9561
      @michaelknopp9561 Před 2 měsíci +17

      @@The1CorruptedPerformance has been improved. This last update made a pretty big difference.

    • @Yorunatto
      @Yorunatto Před 2 měsíci +2

      Same Thing happend with Payday 3

    • @TypicalDutchSaysHi
      @TypicalDutchSaysHi Před měsícem

      We did have material change. We got that wonderful DLC Beach Houses without Beaches.
      That also have been refunded already.

  • @Holtijaar
    @Holtijaar Před 2 měsíci +105

    Imagine publishing "Beach properties" DLC as a first DLC to a game without beaches, and not including actual beach properties, but just a handful of houses. They are spitting in our faces.

    • @PeacefulAutistic
      @PeacefulAutistic Před měsícem +2

      Right‽ Also they didn’t even add any new maps. What the heck?

  • @rageagainstmyhatchet
    @rageagainstmyhatchet Před 2 měsíci +123

    My town of 40,000 people in low and medium residential only, has three universities, two colleges, two power plants, an airport, two trading docks, a dozen stations and barrels of parks and public services. I'm making $5m every ten minutes.
    The game is broken.

    • @kukuhimanputraraharja8084
      @kukuhimanputraraharja8084 Před 2 měsíci +15

      oof. my sim city 4 financial advisor would be drowned in red numbers if i construct them amenities with just measly number of residential zones.

    • @rageagainstmyhatchet
      @rageagainstmyhatchet Před 2 měsíci +16

      And this is post update. I thought "hey it's been a while, I'll see if the games is still broken"...
      Yes, entirely broken. And still with the "wealthy" residential families complaining about high rents.
      I'll come back next year after I'm bored with manor lords and frost punk 2.

    • @ast-og-losta
      @ast-og-losta Před 2 měsíci +4

      I wonder who CS2 thinks they are marketing the game too? If kids are the target audience, then no wonder.

    • @TigerWon
      @TigerWon Před 2 měsíci +1

      If I was a modder I would be making a hard mode. Decrease income stubstantially, increase needs. I would think it would be easy to modify a few numbers.

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@rageagainstmyhatchetso then lower rent or build stuff near them to value their rent 😂😂😂😂😂😂 bruh learn to play before you complain

  • @waltblackadar4690
    @waltblackadar4690 Před 2 měsíci +79

    The DLC has a 4% (yep, four) approval rating on Steam. 96% negative.
    That should tell you everything you need to know about how the DLC is being received.

    • @Wiimeiser
      @Wiimeiser Před 2 měsíci +9

      Even the worst full on game on Steam, War of the Three Kingdoms, has an approval rating of 11%, and only Overwatch 2 has ever gone into the single digits. The three DLCs that just launched are the three worst rated things on Steam _ever_ (And that's including stuff like The Slaughtering Grounds)

  • @jasmeetbrar8609
    @jasmeetbrar8609 Před 2 měsíci +396

    To be honest, the regret for the lack of modding was really just exposing how overly reliant they were on the community to generate free assets and mods for the game.
    They should’ve made a fully finished product that is fully stable and actually make the base game fun.
    They touted the game as the “most realistic city simulator” so they have to deliver on that front.

    • @starblaiz1986
      @starblaiz1986 Před 2 měsíci +38

      100%. I will never understand why mods that basically everyone installed like MoveIt and Node Controller weren't just made part of the base game. Actually wild.

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Somewhat; for me, its also the lack of assets. I mean, there are literally millions of buildings around, and no way can any game get them all in. But with modding and a vibrant modding community, you've a much better chance of getting the real world city hall or water tower or concert hall or whathaveyou recreated for the game.

    • @exidrial431
      @exidrial431 Před 2 měsíci +10

      ​​@@starblaiz1986not to mention the game is missing functionality that has been patched into the predecessor base game such as being able to toggle zoning for a street on or off.
      It's maddening.

    • @thehumus8688
      @thehumus8688 Před 2 měsíci +1

      They want Console to get Mods too
      But Avid CS Player use many Mods that many changing the fundamental of core game, which cant be done in console
      and many of those Avid CS is also Modder themself. if they aint interested, CS2 wont get Many mods and asset as well
      and citybuilder without mods is just as bland as British cuisine

    • @TheCloudhopper
      @TheCloudhopper Před 2 měsíci +4

      That's the most baffling thing. All they needed to do was to give the engine an overhaul, integrate the most common mods (MoveIt, TMPE, Node controller etc), give good mod and map editing tools to the community. And the frustrating thing is, that i very much believe CO would have done just that, if Paradox hadnt interfered. I usually like Paradoxes DLC monetarisation, it beats MTX imho, but with CS2 its a mix of rushing an unfinished product out the door and taking away what made the first game great, mod support.

  • @Hoaxla
    @Hoaxla Před 2 měsíci +383

    Seriously though, paying for 4 palm tree's is a spit in the face.

    • @arasuka6889
      @arasuka6889 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Wait till you hear about the day before

    • @renealbrechtsen9743
      @renealbrechtsen9743 Před 2 měsíci +21

      It's paradox. Didn't expect anything else from them.

    • @youtuvi7452
      @youtuvi7452 Před 2 měsíci +29

      ​@@arasuka6889can't compare a literal scam to a hellhole of corporate mismanagement, we need severe regulations on this industry

    • @TanukiDigital
      @TanukiDigital Před 2 měsíci +19

      @@youtuvi7452I always laugh when people call for government regulation. Talk about trying to fix something by smashing it to pieces.

    • @NerdyNanaSimulations
      @NerdyNanaSimulations Před 2 měsíci

      You don't need government regulation, you need people willing to vote the games in or out with their bank account, instead of buying the crap. EA is another good example of this. @@youtuvi7452

  • @mercb3ast
    @mercb3ast Před 2 měsíci +210

    Paradox has been circling the drain since they went public and became a publicly traded company.
    They went from being games developed by gamers, to, a corporate $$ printing factory, where quality has declined in favor of shitting out DLC after DLC for games that launch broken, and the issues are often never fixed, or, only fixed after the 8th DLC breaks the game so much that they need to go back in and stick stuff back together with some bubble-gum and duct-tape.

    • @khankhomrad8855
      @khankhomrad8855 Před 2 měsíci +35

      Let's be honest, PDX was never sunshine and rainbows. Even before going public they had atrocious released and buggy products. Their DLC bussiness model was established before they went Public. There was a time that PDX seemed to be on an uphill trajectory, but whenever they would get better, something would pull them down again (be it abad launch, DLC, of problem with e 3rd party developer).

    • @BasilAbdef
      @BasilAbdef Před 2 měsíci +32

      It's just the natural evolution for every company. Start small and focused catered to enthusiasts, grow larger and dillute, go public or get acquired and dilute further, and finally focus entirely on financial metrics to the detriment of everything else. Welcome to capitalism, gamers; enjoy your stay.

    • @spekenbonen72
      @spekenbonen72 Před 2 měsíci +15

      They are listed on U.S. stockmarkets, which results in "mandatory increase in revenue, by all means"...

    • @v-alfred
      @v-alfred Před 2 měsíci +10

      *cough**cough*
      EA 2.0 am I right?
      *wink**wink*

    • @Jake-lc1lh
      @Jake-lc1lh Před 2 měsíci +17

      I hate the stock market. Larian is the idealistic model now of a company. Stay private, be bound to making good games, not to your fucking rich-ass stockholders who don't care about games.

  • @MrGrugsy
    @MrGrugsy Před 2 měsíci +105

    When I saw that 3 of the top 5 most used mods from CS1 were the top mods for CS2 right off the bat with the launch of their mod support, it was over.

    • @laylalululuna
      @laylalululuna Před 2 měsíci +55

      Paradox is gettin a lil too comfortable letting players fix their games for them. Almost getting to bethesda levels.

    • @panmajin6895
      @panmajin6895 Před 2 měsíci +8

      ​@@laylalululuna"almost"...?

    • @AyoKeito
      @AyoKeito Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@laylalululuna i believe you're mixing publisher and developer. Mods for Stellaris or CK3 are pretty much just for fun, they are not fixing anything per say. And those games are published by Paradox too. So the problem currently is in developer, CO. Paradox has it's problems, e.g. their love for endless amount of pricey DLCs, but mods are not it.

    • @Holykriger
      @Holykriger Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@AyoKeito somebody forgot that every Stellaris DLC breaks the game. LITERALLY EVERY TIME.

    • @AyoKeito
      @AyoKeito Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Holykriger i... I'm not so sure. Yes, they shuffle things around and move some core mechanics to new DLCs to sell them (leaders, for example). Yes, they set shitty prices (astral rifts). But the only thing they are really breaking is our wallets and meta.
      I can't remember any game-breaking bugs in years. I can disagree with prices and design choices, but that's not breaking anything. And honestly i wouldn't play older Stellaris versions anyway.
      Also it still has nothing to do with mods. Only really useful mods for Stellaris are UI-related. There are none that fix "bugs" that i'm aware of. Honestly, Stellaris workshop page is pretty much dead and boring.

  • @kharmachaos667
    @kharmachaos667 Před 2 měsíci +296

    This game desperately, desperately needed one thing to be fixed: optimization. You do not need individual meshes for every person, who plays cities skylines for seeing a person's jaw in high res? But by not omptimizing to the best of their capabilities, this game becomes unplayable at a certain point for ALL pcs.

    • @kukuhimanputraraharja8084
      @kukuhimanputraraharja8084 Před 2 měsíci +23

      i remember simcity 2013 trying to design full daily travelling routines of all pedestrians or something like that. i find that unnecessary too because it seems like a resource hog for players' pc when there's many other parts of massive city building game that need that resources to optimize the game performance..

    • @rageagainstmyhatchet
      @rageagainstmyhatchet Před 2 měsíci +5

      My limit is 110,000 people. It runs fine up to 100,000... Then starts to slow... Then at 110,000 it grinds to a halt and I just have to restart, regardless of the type of city, layout, or graphics settings.

    • @dovos8572
      @dovos8572 Před 2 měsíci +8

      the game needs way more than better performance. there are WAY too many bugs that make the game bad to play. one of the biggest ones i hate is the bugged static wind. the wind is somehow automatically dynamically calculated in one minute in the map creator before it becomes unchanging. this means that not even the map creators have controll over where the wind will blow so it is litterally forced from the game where the industries and other pollution buildings will be.
      pollution in itself is very bugged too. currently the only way to get rid of pollution is to delete the building and wait an ingame year for it to drift at the edge of the map or dilute enough through spreading apart...
      then there are still the schools that aren't fixed,
      the population isn't balanced,
      the amound of cars that drive around aren't influenced by how good your public transport is used (they are somehow separate calculations and not one thing or really badly bugged and npc take car and public at the same time and despawning the one that isn't getting there first (a ton of walking people despawn all the time)),
      some unqiue factories won't ever get a companie inside (there is now a mod for that...),
      the road placement basically forces you to use the anarchy and move it mod to create good things because without anarchy roads 3 sections away get invalid all the time and so on.
      and when we are already by the road tools. it was promised that we can easily create and manage separate lines to create cool massive junctions easily but the only thing we got is a curve smoothing algorithm that displaces the junction by 50+ meters when something is deleted or added in the wrong way.

    • @Aredein
      @Aredein Před 2 měsíci +5

      funny how city skylines 2 has more in common with simcity: Societies.
      Simcity: Societies has an issue rendering hundreds of sims for long periods of time.
      the game has a timer for "visit home", "visit work", "visit entertainment".
      The timer breaks when CPU is unable to render each sim's timer request on time.
      and playing the game at high speed irreversibly damages internal sim timer, making them permanently stuck. I tested this by editing XML config file that had speed modifier, so I made it pass 1 day in one second, so it instantly permanently broke the behavior pattern for all sims. So I can assume that same happens at default max speed, but likely barely noticeable, which is multiplied with the amount of sims you have.
      So even if you build a perfectly planned city, so sims would not go angry because they got late to have fun after work, it will be ruined by game bottlenecking when it has to run so much individual sim.
      In old simcity games - sims are just decoration sprites, but in Societies - they are individual entity that reacts to other special sims. The game has two types of sims: one who works and lives at home, and those that are generated by special buildings who do specific actions, like arsonists who set buildings on fire, or clowns who increase the mood of nearby sims.
      The game doesn't have super graphics, but the scripting is what stumbles.

    • @rageagainstmyhatchet
      @rageagainstmyhatchet Před 2 měsíci +5

      Those are all correct.
      I remember when Rome 2 came out, it was synonymous with bad developer/publisher decisions and famously broken, from which CA never really recovered it's reputation.
      This feels like that now. They will never really be regarded as a high quality studio again (for better or worse).

  • @DJVevyVevs
    @DJVevyVevs Před 2 měsíci +29

    Cities Skylines 2 players: "This game has like three times the base cost in DLC!"
    Anyone who has played literally any Paradox Interactive game: "first time?"

    • @jordanledoux197
      @jordanledoux197 Před 2 měsíci +2

      CS2 players mostly came from CS1, and CS1 has more DLC for it than probably any Paradox game except EU4. I don't think any of the players were surprised there's DLC. Maybe take 5 minutes next time.

    • @DJVevyVevs
      @DJVevyVevs Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@jordanledoux197 Wow someone is taking a joke a little too personally there

  • @XMysticHerox
    @XMysticHerox Před 2 měsíci +217

    Paradox is starting to become a warning sign on new games for me. Which is a shame since they made some of my favorites. But I have been at least disappointed pretty much every game since Imperator.

    • @Kant3n
      @Kant3n Před 2 měsíci +8

      They had a good thing going for a while with Stellaris. Between this and firing the creators of Bloodlines 2, yeah, I'm feeling a bit over them.

    • @Gadottinho
      @Gadottinho Před 2 měsíci +19

      starting? for me it basically has always been, their games may be good sometimes, but all of them have these same problems, always

    • @KlickPy
      @KlickPy Před 2 měsíci +17

      Plus they have they fucking stupid dlc model. I am all for them changing things and charging for that work, but they have consistently maked several games unplayable unless you buy certain DLCs (Stellaris, Universallis IV, HOI4 to a certain degree, etc)

    • @gingerbill128
      @gingerbill128 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Same , EU4 and CK2 i love , then Imperator came out and its been down a steep hill since then . I avoid Paradox now , i still play EU4 but an older version i will never update.

    • @youtuvi7452
      @youtuvi7452 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Such a shame, a company that grew from stomping on EA failure is now facing the same corporate hellscape.
      I had hopes for life by you but after this I'm down the train

  • @freedantheeternal
    @freedantheeternal Před 2 měsíci +56

    It's Paradox as the publisher.
    Take it from someone who loves another Paradox game, Stellaris, to death, and own literally every one of its multiple hundreds of dollars of DLCs: Do not ever trust Paradox to not fuck things up.

    • @Infernal_Elf
      @Infernal_Elf Před 2 měsíci +5

      stellaris is a jewel with dlc. but also quite Hardware taxing late game tho. and needs to be bought at sale. because total dlc is absolutely silly exspensive.

    • @freedantheeternal
      @freedantheeternal Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Infernal_Elf I mean, it's a very different scenario to drop $10-$20 three or four times a year compared to buying it all outright, that I fully understand. Latecomers have it far worse.

    • @ostlandr
      @ostlandr Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah. Bought Stellaris on sale. Got hooked. Bought DLC. Lost interest. It was fun being able to create custom civilizations from franchises like Trek and Babylon 5.

    • @freedantheeternal
      @freedantheeternal Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@ostlandr That's the main reason I enjoy it so much. I approach it more like an RPG where you play as a civilization instead of a strategy game.
      My favorite civ I've played uses Fanatic Xenophile and Militaristic ethics, which results in me basically playing a sort of galactic peacekeeper, and I usually make sure the galaxy will have at least one Devouring Swarm/Fanatic Purifier to be the villain of the game for me to fight.

    • @MaFo82
      @MaFo82 Před 2 měsíci

      @@freedantheeternal Latecomers really should try it out via subscription first and then wait for a sale if they feel the game warrants it.

  • @SuperMickyChow
    @SuperMickyChow Před 2 měsíci +21

    And the moral of the story is:
    Don't buy games from Paradox

    • @ukraine_supporter_777
      @ukraine_supporter_777 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I just pirate them 🏴‍☠️🛶

    • @gmoneybehotch1325
      @gmoneybehotch1325 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I lost nearly all the franchises I used to love - due to greed. Now I just buy Indiegames

  • @samvimes9510
    @samvimes9510 Před 2 měsíci +46

    It's Paradox, their favorite hobby is bleeding players dry through DLC. Just look at all the Europa Universalis IV DLC, it totals up to $420 USD.

    • @Zanbatoss
      @Zanbatoss Před 2 měsíci +6

      Good ol reliable dlc unlocker 😊

    • @Candlemancer
      @Candlemancer Před 2 měsíci +1

      But none of those were for 4 palm trees

    • @ukraine_supporter_777
      @ukraine_supporter_777 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@Zanbatossnice to see another pirate 🏴‍☠️🛶

    • @ostlandr
      @ostlandr Před 2 měsíci +2

      I was so p****d when I found out I had to buy the "La Resistance" DLC for HOI4 to get armored cars. WTF? Those weren't in the freakin' base game for a WWII game???
      After I quit playing a while back, I read that some of the later DLC actually breaks things, like ship construction and naval combat.
      Oh, well- I had fun while it lasted. Played to 1950 as the Germans. Sank the Hood with Schlesien, the Scharnhorsts and the pocket battleships, the kill going to Schlesien. (Schlesien, with radar and modern fire control, became a hero ship in that game.) Successfully launched Operation Sea Lion and conquered England. Stuffed the D-Day landings, was slowly pushing the Russians farther and farther into Siberia, and had my sights set on Vladivostok. Too bad the mod that would take the game through the Cold War was broken. 😞 Also sad that the super-battleships Wotan, Donar and Tiw never saw combat. They were used as escorts for the carriers Graf Zeppelin and Freiherr Richtofen.

  • @piyoweb
    @piyoweb Před 2 měsíci +64

    My experience of this game is great! Because I've never purchased or played it. And I've no plan to do so anytime soon!

    • @spikem5950
      @spikem5950 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Yeah I'll keep playing CS1 for another eight years I think.

    • @ostlandr
      @ostlandr Před 2 měsíci +3

      "The fool learns from his own mistakes; the wise man learns from the mistakes of others."

    • @koynov333
      @koynov333 Před 2 měsíci +2

      The fools will never learn no matter what. this saying is not correct.@@ostlandr

  • @TheStanglehold
    @TheStanglehold Před 2 měsíci +133

    I want to see people playing on a beach. People going into the water, swimming, surfing, kayaking. I want boats dammit.

    • @spikem5950
      @spikem5950 Před 2 měsíci +18

      The fact that in the first game we have canals but no way to make them functional besides the oversized ferries and cruise ships is a real shame. I should be able to make a canal-oriented city with as many people boating around as there are walking and driving cars.

    • @erlm595
      @erlm595 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Jeah, but you would need passion and time for that. Time comes with money, and that is what the shareholders have, but they are fucking the game over.
      I would love if CO would have gond the none publisher rout, since they already have a community and we all saw that it can work with BG3

    • @jabcmw1
      @jabcmw1 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Docks. Jet ski rentals. Beach volleyball "parks". Giant hotels along the coast.

    • @Holtijaar
      @Holtijaar Před 2 měsíci +8

      I want any citizen animations at all at this point. There's no animation for people visiting parks, no firefighters, no hearse being loaded with a coffin. Nothing.
      This was in CS1 since day 1. It's absolute bulshit.

    • @rerun3283
      @rerun3283 Před 2 měsíci +3

      That will cost you another $50 in about a year or two

  • @ElFelix88
    @ElFelix88 Před 2 měsíci +32

    this dlc should go free as a way of apology

    • @johnnysturm3377
      @johnnysturm3377 Před 2 měsíci

      Won't happen, they will do everything to milk their customers out and sooner or later they will also take the plug out SC1.

    • @WellingtonSinceridades
      @WellingtonSinceridades Před 2 měsíci +6

      I believe this DLC was only released for legal reasons. They promised free DLC for those who bought the Ultimate version and there it is.

    • @user-xz3pb3dt2u
      @user-xz3pb3dt2u Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@WellingtonSinceridades "You will get one extra burger for free if you pay a single burger for double the price!" :D

  • @vulcanjoe8258
    @vulcanjoe8258 Před 2 měsíci +12

    What made things worse is that they released the Beach Properties DLC on top of it all. A beach DLC.. with no actual usable beaches in the game. It’s currently sitting at 4% on steam right now, it’s like watching someone already on fire but rather putting it out they just pour more petrol on it.

  • @yannick5099
    @yannick5099 Před 2 měsíci +86

    Note it's "Paradox" Mods, not just Mods. Also the logo they plaster on everything. Just missing to sprinkle © and ™ on every other word for the perfect marketing overdose.

    • @archimetropolis
      @archimetropolis Před 2 měsíci

      It's paradoxs general modding platform... why wouldn't the brand have their name on it

    • @yannick5099
      @yannick5099 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​ @archimetropolis Having your brand on something is completely fine. It's just that these are not mods by Paradox, but by other people. And they put their logo next to the name of every single mod author.

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@yannick5099so false advertising?

    • @user-wq9mw2xz3j
      @user-wq9mw2xz3j Před 2 měsíci

      see, thats where you are wrong. by uploading it on the website, you give up all rights to whatever you created and give the rights fully to Paradox to do whatever they want with@@yannick5099

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 Před 2 měsíci +26

    One thing I have learned is that if you are in the "Bonus Class" of making a gaming hit, Bank those bonuses and do not expect them again. That nest egg may have to make your money after burn out catches up with you. Never let a non-creative business type or money hound accountant into a position where they affect the product.

  • @XxTooMuchStupidxX
    @XxTooMuchStupidxX Před 2 měsíci +137

    “Our biggest regret is not getting free labor to finish our game”

    • @78cunobelin
      @78cunobelin Před měsícem +1

      Which they would have if they let the community mod the game and upload assets to the Steam WS....so many people (myself included) were ready to upload hundreds of assets to Steam for everyone to use in CS2....but no: cartoonishly bad vanilla cities only.

  • @daisukeakihito9832
    @daisukeakihito9832 Před 2 měsíci +42

    Paradox involvement is quickly becoming a massive red flag for me.

  • @--_DJ_--
    @--_DJ_-- Před 2 měsíci +18

    You know a game is underwhelming when you won't even bother to pirate it. I have 1000s of hours in CS, was very much looking forward to sailing the high seas and trying CS2, until it launched. It was a big reason I upgraded my PC, even CS was a bit too much for the old girl.
    Their DLC pricing is just too much for me to stomach, I don't know how people can justify spending so much for so little. (most of the time)

  • @robb037
    @robb037 Před 2 měsíci +45

    Paradox, the name says it all, i love their games for the potential but despise their DLC practices. "hey guys new DLC just hit, yeah there's a few new mechanics you can play with but it's mostly just new skins/assets for you to look at" meanwhile, they've ignored bugs and performance issues since the game's release, and no this isn't just CS2, every Paradox game is like this, EVERY DAMN ONE OF THEM!

    • @gucciguy3408
      @gucciguy3408 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Yep I think the only worse DLC practices are from the Sims 4. Not much can beat Paradox DLC and the only reason I play their games is because of one person can own them and play multiplayer with those who don’t. Otherwise would never even consider their games. Though with newer game releases I might just never touch their games again with how they are handling them.

    • @robb037
      @robb037 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@gucciguy3408 Paradox games lack polish, take Stellaris for instance, if you build a starbase in a system with a pulsar or neutron star that nullifies shields, the starbase still has shields, it's been like this since 2016 when they took away the ability to customize starbases. armies will disappear from view in the right hand toolbar if you build too many fleets, well just don't build so many fleets you say? right, you can't do that since they limited the fleet size to get rid of doomstacks. great no more doomstacks you say? it solved absolutely nothing, this "fix" changed nothing other than needing more admirals for your fleets, the AI and the player can still have multiple fleets together which is essentially still a doomstack. and now with the latest changes your leaders cost unity and you are limited to how many you can have which means planets don't have governors, fleets don't have admirals, armies don't have generals, why would Paradox make a decision like this? oh to push you into buying the DLC, the DLC that costs almost as much as the base game......
      don't get me wrong i love Paradox games for the potential and hate them for what they are currently, an unpolished, unbalanced hot mess that is solely to sell you DLC for the price of a game.
      if you want my honest opinion, just buy the base game and play the total conversion mods, they are way more balanced and fun.

    • @zfmag
      @zfmag Před 2 měsíci +2

      Also: WE HAVE A DLC SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE NOW (that makes no sense price-wise)

    • @liwojenkins
      @liwojenkins Před 2 měsíci

      @@robb037 I slowly buy the DLCs at 75% sales. I will have a finished game in a few more years and it'll only cost $200.

  • @JakeP2013
    @JakeP2013 Před 2 měsíci +13

    The most insane thing to me is they released what was obviously an early access game for the full $50 USD price tag. If delaying the game was not an option for financial reasons I think players would be more understanding if they had released it as early access with a reduced price.

  • @DrMoe.Lester
    @DrMoe.Lester Před 2 měsíci +16

    Paradox died between ck2/hoi3 and ck3/hoi4 when they couldn't be arsed to improve AI and instead went on the dlc train.

    • @Ylyrra
      @Ylyrra Před 2 měsíci +1

      They died when they started becoming a publisher for other devs games rather than only their own. The rot set in when they became corporate suits motivated by cashflow rather than a scrappy dev motivated by making games they only hoped anyone but them could love.

  • @elriano1
    @elriano1 Před 2 měsíci +11

    I just had a bug yesterday that made all the UI vanish and I couldn't get it back so I had to quit without saving. The fundamentals of the game still feel completely broken after 6 months and they've been working on this DLC that no one cares about? Really tone-deaf decision.

    • @TigerWon
      @TigerWon Před 2 měsíci

      I had that issue when I loaded mods on an existing city. Have to create a new city for mods from my experience.

  • @micheljolicoeur6094
    @micheljolicoeur6094 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Lamplighter's League was rushed out without any marketing to generate cash for their earnngs call, it failed as expected which then led Paradox to rush out City Skylines II and now we are here...
    Do NOT blame this on the failure of Lamplighter's League, it was just the snowball that grew into this issue with City Skylines II. These failures lie SQUARELY on Paradox.

  • @maihess
    @maihess Před 2 měsíci +5

    Paradox being on the receiving end of the community's frustration is well overdue.
    Even though I did enjoy my time with CS2 thus far, I'll be waiting until at least the end of the year before checking in on it again.

  • @Jumbleman5
    @Jumbleman5 Před 2 měsíci +38

    Paradox also clearly pulled the plug on the Star Trek 4x game that they just published, even though they never made an announcement about it. They've really lost a lot of reputation in my eyes.

    • @laylalululuna
      @laylalululuna Před 2 měsíci +12

      Yeah paradox really screwed the pooch on that one too. Like why bother if you're not gonna make it better than stellaris with a star trek mod

    • @thephantomchannel5368
      @thephantomchannel5368 Před 2 měsíci +1

      My fear is that they are pulling resources from other studios to put money into CO with very little to show for it. I don't know what their biggest title is but I can assume Cities Skylines franchise would be near the top of the list. Imagine what we could have if they took the resources from CO and gave it to the smaller developers which the CEO of CO always claims to be a small studio, which they might be in number of employees but definitely not anywhere near "small" when it comes to revenue. I feel like all the lesser known titles get sacrificed for the big fish in a shallow pond.

    • @apolloeosphoros4345
      @apolloeosphoros4345 Před 2 měsíci +7

      the first several stellaris patches removed as much as they added, right up to 2.0 even.. so careful, support for the trek game might involve removing stuff as well lol

    • @AyoKeito
      @AyoKeito Před 2 měsíci +3

      Honestly, it was born dead. It was just a total conversion mod for some old ass version of Stellaris. I don't think they really expected it to sell well. Maybe grab a few Star Trek fans here and there, but that's it. Low effort low reward.

    • @MaFo82
      @MaFo82 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@thephantomchannel5368 Cities Skylines is by far their biggest game ever in sold copies, second is Stellaris and the rest are VERY far behind in raw numbers. Grand Strategy is still a very niche genre and even WW2 (HoI) don't pull in the massive numbers of players that a good 4X or city builder game can do.

  • @lennyghoul
    @lennyghoul Před 2 měsíci +22

    Also the Beachless DLC is part of a pre-order upsale, so people who trusted it wouldn't suck paid 6 months ago for this and got burned anyway.

    • @Infernal_Elf
      @Infernal_Elf Před 2 měsíci +3

      Never ever preorder! u sually dont get much for it and u might loose it all if the game is shit! and the game developers already earned money so they dont need to care about the game. Cyberpunk actually broke even day 1 because of idiots just buying a product they had no idea about. And that was also a horribly greedy mess.

  • @TheMegaOne1000
    @TheMegaOne1000 Před 2 měsíci +10

    I won't touch any Paradox game until they get rid of their insane DLC policy. Cities Skylines alone has $400 worth of DLC, which should be criminal.

    • @TigerWon
      @TigerWon Před 2 měsíci +1

      8 years, spending 50 dollars a year is less than Fortnite battlepass yearly, way less than call of duty plus their battle passes.

    • @acev3521
      @acev3521 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TigerWoncod and Fortnite battle passes after the first one are free if you don’t buy skins nice try though paradox employee

    • @TheMegaOne1000
      @TheMegaOne1000 Před 2 měsíci

      @@TigerWonHave you ever heard of a concept called barrier of entry?

    • @TigerWon
      @TigerWon Před 2 měsíci

      @@TheMegaOne1000 I understand, different game and business model. The point was he said it is 400 dollars, that's over a 8 year period. That's only $50 a year compared to many other games that cost much more per year that make much more money.

  • @misskittay9120
    @misskittay9120 Před 2 měsíci +29

    Paradox' business model is a pox upon the gaming community and it always has been. It's the same stuff that murdered Maxis and took out the Sims and SimCity: over-monitization of every possible thing in the game and breaking up essential quality of life features into dozens of expansion packs.

    • @TigerWon
      @TigerWon Před 2 měsíci

      Paradox was great up until they went public.

    • @Betis91
      @Betis91 Před měsícem

      BlackRock, Vanguard or State Street investment firms are involved

  • @youtubevanced4900
    @youtubevanced4900 Před 2 měsíci +75

    Cities Skyline isn’t the only game to be pushed out incomplete by a major publisher.
    They pushed out KSP2 at about 15% complete. They slapped an EA badge on it to use as a shield but also slapped on a full complete game price to go with it.
    After more than a year of being released, I’d say it’s currently 20% complete. Game is an absolute disaster.

    • @PrincessTidge
      @PrincessTidge Před 2 měsíci +26

      I was looking forward to KSP2 and CS2 so much, so disappointing 😐

    • @iamskeptical9108
      @iamskeptical9108 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Everyone who purchased KSP2 knew what they were getting, they basically copied the way they released KSP (which most were fine with btw), they had a roadmap and we knew there was going to be major development necessary to get to the content we expected from KSP2. I do not feel bad about paying full price knowing I will get a good game in time and it will be a good game. This is not the case with CS2, they released it as a full game with so many missing features and lack of content all the while trying to pass it off as a full game. I have not purchased CS2 and will probably not now given it's terrible state and lack of QA and content.

    • @KoeddkHD
      @KoeddkHD Před 2 měsíci +9

      ​@@iamskeptical9108it still underperformed regardless of the road map.
      Game devs needs to stop this trend and just make a kickstarter or gofundme to get funding if that's where the problem is instead of ripping people off.
      KSP2 is a disaster wether you like it or not.

    • @WilliamMullaney
      @WilliamMullaney Před 2 měsíci +10

      I love both KSP1 and CS1 and was so excited for KSP2 and CS2. I haven’t bought either. And I wont until they actually become worth the money, literally both titles previous games are better right now, why would anyone pay for the new games?

    • @youtubevanced4900
      @youtubevanced4900 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@WilliamMullaney I was saying the same thing, but then I got drunk and bored one night and KSP2 went on sale and I bought it.
      So much regret. Think I have 2-3 hours in it. It's god awful.

  • @Steve-pw2op
    @Steve-pw2op Před 2 měsíci +9

    Without mods I find myself fighting to get anything done in the game for instance building a road over hilly terrain I can spend hours where if I had mods it would be minutes.
    I should not even have to download mods, the mods should've been integrated in the game to make it more pleasurable to play.

  • @ScytheNoire
    @ScytheNoire Před 2 měsíci +26

    Yet another example why you shouldn't pre-order.

  • @imperialisticvonhabsburg3149
    @imperialisticvonhabsburg3149 Před 2 měsíci +45

    Don't worry guys, I am sure paradox will learn from this and EUV will be a fine game at launch.

    • @christiangonzalez6945
      @christiangonzalez6945 Před 2 měsíci +6

      You joking right?

    • @imperialisticvonhabsburg3149
      @imperialisticvonhabsburg3149 Před 2 měsíci +16

      @@christiangonzalez6945 It will be a great game
      500 DLC dollars and 2 years down the drain. Then it may be on the same level as EU4. That is if it doesn't get Imperator Rome'd within 6 months of launch due to the "lack of support from the community".

    • @TheStanglehold
      @TheStanglehold Před 2 měsíci +1

      On the bright side, Victoria 3 and imperator are in a decent place now

    • @danielbetancur1250
      @danielbetancur1250 Před 2 měsíci +4

      CK3 is great and was always great, so I have hope

    • @khankhomrad8855
      @khankhomrad8855 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@aymericism2Yeah, no. From the looks of it they are trying to reinvente EU5 and move it more on the direction of Vic 3, and we know how well that went for the Vicky series.

  • @SirNarax
    @SirNarax Před 2 měsíci +10

    Cities Skylines 2 is going to cost over a hundred dollars by the end of this year and still be a mess.

  • @jmajick4415
    @jmajick4415 Před 2 měsíci +83

    I'm so glad that I held myself back from buying this game. I wanted it so bad too
    Investors are killing gaming

    • @henzoko5946
      @henzoko5946 Před 2 měsíci

      Torrent it for free

    • @Candlemancer
      @Candlemancer Před 2 měsíci +4

      Investors are killing *everything.*

    • @candys7285
      @candys7285 Před 2 měsíci

      Investors are killing the country whose banner you erroneously fly.

    • @geckoman1011
      @geckoman1011 Před 2 měsíci

      I, as an investor, can guarantee you that's not the case. I want to see a well run company that can produce over the long term. Short term gains at the expense of the long term is not an efficient approach. So you can take your theory and throw it in the toilet where it belongs.

    • @racingraptor4758
      @racingraptor4758 Před měsícem +1

      I wont agree with this statenent since most investors invest to recive long term profit. But nowdays we have couple of dumb very rich investors throwing money left and right for semingly ,,short term profit". But its gona end sooner than later

  • @TelperionMt
    @TelperionMt Před 2 měsíci +16

    Game is where I expected it to be. I'll check back a year from now.

    • @opinionday0079
      @opinionday0079 Před 9 dny

      In a year two's time there'll be trying to flog you cities Skylines 4 or 5

  • @UltravioletNomad
    @UltravioletNomad Před 2 měsíci +46

    Its almost like the publisher pushed the release because they assumed that the fans of the first game was used to continually buying into a building game. And we can argue about City Skyline's monetization and updates all we want, but the original, as I understand it, wasn't a broken unoptimized mess. Like even if you want to be really critical of the first game, its only unfinished by nature of lacking content that would later be added or very quickly modded in. I don't think the publisher understands their own fanbase or why people liked the first game, it was just a solid launching platform overall and that base needs to be impressively polished for either the devs or modders to build off of.

    • @rupert1126
      @rupert1126 Před 2 měsíci +12

      It also release shortly after the sim city 2013 debacle. City builders wanted that AAA game that was large in scale, and deep enough to play for hrs without inducing migraines. Simcity messed it up so bad, it made CS1 look like second coming of Jesus.

    • @willywonka6487
      @willywonka6487 Před 2 měsíci +8

      I played CS1 shortly after release and it was a perfectly fine game ready to go. It just lacked content

    • @petrm2234
      @petrm2234 Před 2 měsíci +1

      of course they don’t know their fan base, PDX put friends without skills in leadership positions

    • @Turamwdd
      @Turamwdd Před 2 měsíci

      Paradox delayed the release by more than 2 years. If CO hadn't decided to throw everything away and redesign in order to push computing power, this wouldn't be an issue. See Star Citizen, for example, when a game is constantly being redesigned and rebuilt. The difference is that Paradox finally put a deadline in place.

  • @chernweimah9124
    @chernweimah9124 Před 2 měsíci +3

    CO CEO said it was her decision jointly with Paradox to launch the game. And said how proud and satisfied they were with the release before it was. Paradox did not make her blame the players, Paradox or accuse people of toxicity or “if u dislike the simulation, this game is not for you”. Or say that simulation is something no CO knows yet produced this crap.
    I think the blame lies both with the CEO of CO and Paradox for allowing this to happen.

  • @mahadevovnl
    @mahadevovnl Před 2 měsíci +8

    I expect the bicycles DLC to not contain bike paths. And the DLC for building your own theme parks to not have themes. Just parks. Haha that's such a funny joke, it would be almost as silly as making "beach front properties DLC" without beaches. LOL out loud haha.
    Colossal Order is so dead to me. It's a shame I can't get my money back from Steam anymore. They had it all (tens of millions of enthusiastic and loyal fans) and they blew it all.

  • @Wveth
    @Wveth Před 2 měsíci +5

    This is the inevitable result of any company going public. Once you are legally indebted to shareholders, your company will slowly lose its soul. Whatever the company made will get gradually worse over time under the demand that every year be more profitable than the last. This goes on until the customers start to get unhappy, and then the company is forced to counteract that dissatisfaction with anti-consumer practices (that more-or-less trick people into spending good money on a bad product or service). It might take a while, but it will happen to every company that takes the first step.

  • @matteblackemo
    @matteblackemo Před 2 měsíci +3

    Cities 2 is a like a Lego pack, but that small one. When bought, you discover some major pieces are missing. Well, that`s Lego, you still can do something with it whilst waiting for missing parts to be sent. You play, you enjoy. But later they send you a message saying "hey, we`re still working on your request, but meanwhile you can check out our new 10 blocks in various colours. And there`s a price to that".
    You can have fun with Beach assets but overall picture hasn`t been fixed yet.

  • @keit99
    @keit99 Před 2 měsíci +32

    CS2 makes me worried for life by you

    • @Kant3n
      @Kant3n Před 2 měsíci +7

      If Paradox bungles the only legit attempt at a Sims alternative I'm pretty much done I think.

    • @keit99
      @keit99 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Kant3n paralives looks promising

    • @Arjay404
      @Arjay404 Před 2 měsíci +8

      At least that got delayed, unlike what happened with CS2, which should have also been delayed.
      Sad thing is that the developers are clearly capable, but the money people keep forcing them to release things before they are ready or with missing content.

    • @kukuhimanputraraharja8084
      @kukuhimanputraraharja8084 Před 2 měsíci

      i really hope life by you devs will seriously implement their promised fully voiced real life languages to its characters. and also give big mod supports for creators, since mod support is one of the main reason sims 2-3-4 games are so popular and long lasting. just like skyrim-oblivion-falloutfnv34

    • @keit99
      @keit99 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@Arjay404 almost feels like paradox is turning into EA. They already copied their DLC politics. Clearly they also copied their dollar-sign eyes

  • @marxman6896
    @marxman6896 Před 2 měsíci +25

    It's so frustrating that this good development team, and this highly anticipated game, are forever tainted by the impatient greed of the soulless suits at Paradox's board members. Fuck corporate gaming. This whole debacle was entirely avoidable if they just had some goddamn patience... but their quarterly number looked bad and they needed a short-term win, at the expense of *ruining* a fucking gold star franchise.

    • @danielbetancur1250
      @danielbetancur1250 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I'm glad more indie or AA games are getting the spotlight as we all collectively realize AAA games are becoming scams

    • @Infernal_Elf
      @Infernal_Elf Před 2 měsíci

      Very good points :D

    • @Infernal_Elf
      @Infernal_Elf Před 2 měsíci

      The funny thing tho is that Colossal order and Paradox was indie like hell in 2015. and now they aint and go totally greedy. but paradox also just have 30 fulltime employees so they really need to lower the bar if thats all they have. they tried to do too much and failed utterly.

    • @SaintRubicon
      @SaintRubicon Před 2 měsíci +1

      Paradox didnt control how they designed the game and all the smoke and mirrors with the fake graphs and "simulation", The devs share alot of the blame here too. Its not just unfinished, it wasnt built properly to begin with.

    • @Wiimeiser
      @Wiimeiser Před 2 měsíci

      A shame all the other simulators have some sort of resource gimmick...

  • @eidodk
    @eidodk Před 2 měsíci +43

    Cities Skylines 2 is a game that's not needed at all. Sure it expands city building but it doesn't do anything really that we couldn't do before already.

    • @danielbetancur1250
      @danielbetancur1250 Před 2 měsíci +13

      I really just wanted a graphics update, but it doesn't even look that much better, and certainly not good enough to have the dogshit performance it has.

    • @spikem5950
      @spikem5950 Před 2 měsíci +14

      A new game was needed, but what we got was like the free update for Overwatch getting a "2" slapped on it.
      Only instead of a free update this one was full price.

    • @mrgooglethegreat
      @mrgooglethegreat Před 2 měsíci +1

      CS2 actually is designed to do more than CS1. U can't fill a 25 tile map in CS1 ....but when CS2 is finally finished u can fill a bigger map up all the way with no node limits

    • @unhommequicourt
      @unhommequicourt Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@danielbetancur1250 personnally i just wanted to be able to make multiple cities and have interactions between them like in the last simcity, or something like that

    • @danielbetancur1250
      @danielbetancur1250 Před 2 měsíci

      Sounds good on paper but I would not have the psychic energy to take on multiple cities! But if that's something you def make your voice heard@@unhommequicourt

  • @hatenasjunjou4651
    @hatenasjunjou4651 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Conflicted interests always kills something fun
    "This is why we cant have nice things" is annoying but true sometimes, customers, devs, investors, are competing instead of cooperating 90% of the time
    If only there were a way 😮

    • @spikem5950
      @spikem5950 Před 2 měsíci +2

      There is a way, and it's called worker co-operatives instead of this shareholder bs.

  • @UNATCOHanka
    @UNATCOHanka Před 2 měsíci +6

    This is the perfect time for EA to simply remake Simcity 4 and get all the profits (but they wont)

    • @Candlemancer
      @Candlemancer Před 2 měsíci +3

      At this stage they could re-release the game as it is and be praised for it

    • @ostlandr
      @ostlandr Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Candlemancer SimCity 4 with all the bugfix mods, the Network Addon Mod, et. al. in Vanilla? I'd pay $30 USD for that!

    • @tonyzed6831
      @tonyzed6831 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I've been saying this for years. Make it 3D, multiprocessor, exact same gameplay, bam you have a winner.

    • @acev3521
      @acev3521 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@tonyzed6831would be million times better than CS

  • @Blood-PawWerewolf
    @Blood-PawWerewolf Před 2 měsíci +82

    This game has probably months to live knowing how the previous games paradox recently published were shut down months after they launched

    • @SamiJuntunen1
      @SamiJuntunen1 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Propably not. Totally different team from other games. This team only did first part of this game afaik. They will regret if they shut it down now. Unless you only meant the game not the team? Still not sure how that would help.

    • @SamiJuntunen1
      @SamiJuntunen1 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Btw fps is better now but there are new crazy bugs like not seeing zones if AA enabled unless you switch camera angle to directly from up 😅

    • @jingle2534
      @jingle2534 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Cities Skylines 1 is one of Paradox's most successful games ever isn't it? I feel like they consider this too big to fail, I'm sure they'll keep working on it. The question is whether or not players stick around

    • @invention64
      @invention64 Před 2 měsíci +4

      It's a cash cow for them. They probably won't cancel it.

    • @steeltalon8194
      @steeltalon8194 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Unless another high profile city builder launches this year it probably won't. But it would be ironic as that exactly how SimCity got killed by CS1.

  • @Ilyak1986
    @Ilyak1986 Před 2 měsíci +12

    "I wish the developers the best, and to whoever made this decision, f*** you, because the players and the developers did not deserve any of this BS."
    WOW.
    When the usually level-headed Michael Bell just lets one fly like that, you KNOW someone dun f'd up.

    • @Infernal_Elf
      @Infernal_Elf Před 2 měsíci +1

      if your workplace scams people do you stay working there? most people in Colossal order knew very well that this was gonna be shit on release. and in Finland u get benefits from the state up to several months while looking for a new job.

    • @opinionday0079
      @opinionday0079 Před 9 dny

      You know the developers made this game their entirely responsible for how crap it is

  • @dez7800
    @dez7800 Před 2 měsíci +14

    This DLC mania is getting out of hand... I remember paying 35$ for a pc game in 2015 and it being the full game... Now the game is 90$+ and you need to pay twice as much to get a full game experience. Add to that that they now release unfinished games and you get a fkn shitshow...

    • @ostlandr
      @ostlandr Před 2 měsíci +5

      Remember when an expansion pack for a game added a ton of content and another chapter of the story, like Starcraft: Brood War or Diablo II: Lord of Destruction? Starcraft II's expansion packs were well worth it also. Somebody on CZcams put the cut scenes together and made a movie.
      Aaaaaand Diablo III sucked. Never finished it. Grim Dawn is hands down superior.

  • @evilotis01
    @evilotis01 Před 2 měsíci +2

    it really is impressive how spectacularly Paradox continue to fuck this up. the modding support is something that could actually generate goodwill... so let's package it with a hilarious money-grab of a DLC to make sure that everyone still hates us!

  • @spastictuesdays340
    @spastictuesdays340 Před 2 měsíci +4

    It's going to be hard to get that full game price up to the Paradox standard of $500+ when they keep soiling the sheets like this.

  • @ANO-.-NYM
    @ANO-.-NYM Před 2 měsíci +14

    Man, some Swedish video game companies have taken a huge nosedive in recent years.
    Paradox, Embracer, Dice, Starbreeze, Fatshark (after Tencent acq.), etc.
    Looks like after all these companies lost their autonomy to the financial division of their executive departments they went downhill.

    • @LucasCunhaRocha
      @LucasCunhaRocha Před 2 měsíci

      Lol not just companies, Sweden is all messed up

    • @ostlandr
      @ostlandr Před 2 měsíci +3

      Not just gaming companies. Once huge and fantastically profitable companies like General Motors and General Electric were destroyed by the focus on short-term profits over long-term profitability. The original GM went bankrupt (it had become a pension company with a small and unprofitable automotive division at that point.) GE, once the largest and most profitable company on the planet, now has a lower market capitalization than either Starbucks or Nike.

    • @cats4president
      @cats4president Před 2 měsíci +4

      you can add Boeing to that list

  • @KlickPy
    @KlickPy Před 2 měsíci +17

    I really hope a new company takes the spot paradox is currently occupying, I love the concepts of the games they make but they consistently fall short and are obviously corrupted by corporate greed and we suffer because of it and don't really have good alternatives

    • @spikem5950
      @spikem5950 Před 2 měsíci +5

      The things that sucks is Paradox was the alternative to what EA was doing for a time.

    • @Infernal_Elf
      @Infernal_Elf Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@spikem5950 Yeah i guess we can pray for a veteran indie company with Maxis developers that still are creative XD There is two companies with blizzard veterans one even lead by the blizzard founder XD

  • @Nope_handlesaretrash
    @Nope_handlesaretrash Před 2 měsíci +4

    Paradox somehow managing to be loved and despised at the same time depending on which one of their games your up to the elbows in.

    • @ostlandr
      @ostlandr Před 2 měsíci +2

      Oh, yeah. Total love/hate relationship. Love Stellaris, HoI4, and CS. Hate Paradox.

    • @Betis91
      @Betis91 Před měsícem

      ​@@ostlandrCause they're bought by BlackRock

  • @runklestiltskin_2407
    @runklestiltskin_2407 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The issue is working on thousand micro DLCs, instead of improvements of part 2. There is barely anything that's better and players won't switch for that.

  • @mariejuku
    @mariejuku Před 2 měsíci +5

    no shade but like who the fuck bought the dlc after witnessing the launch and THEN went "oh it's bad" like do u have functioning eyes

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 Před 2 měsíci +19

    The game is obviously lacking several QA passes with the glitches that are showing up. The interface works fine, but a lot of the background stuff is still having problems. It is a chore to play instead of fun, I hope thing improve RAPIDLY.

  • @cityplannermismanages
    @cityplannermismanages Před 2 měsíci +3

    I love your channel. Well said. Also as I have pointed out numerous time on my channel - CS1 still has a much larger and increasing player base than CS2. Not only have content creators returned to CS1 but so have a lot of players. CS2 needs another year.

  • @OpinionatedHuman
    @OpinionatedHuman Před 2 měsíci +12

    You made some mistakes:
    "We waited some weeks" is actually MONTHS.
    "The paradox mod manager works" is NO it doesn't most of the time.
    "The map editor is pretty damn cool" is NO it isn't, so many basic things are still missing or in really stupid places in the UI like loading your previous edited map.
    "The performance is good now" is it's actually still [bleep] when your main menu asks like 80% GPU on a good GPU and to get reasonable fps you have to turn off or lower many graphic options.
    It is very obvious why their store page is burning with negative reviews every day, 6 months after release it still looks like nowhere close to finished. Most of us have now given up hope this will ever get fixed. The silence from CO also says a lot. Will they stop trying and call it a day?

    • @TigerWon
      @TigerWon Před 2 měsíci +1

      Paradox mods didn't work day 1 because too many people were using it, the next night I hopped on and it worked flawlessly. Game crashes frequently most likely because of some mod conflict but saves are frequent I don't mind. Have doubled my play time since launch playing it all day yesterday. Hoping to get more done today.

  • @brandonsheffield9873
    @brandonsheffield9873 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I really hate how my city of 140k, everyone is happy, no traffic issues, with a maxed out city income($2billion) nothing I do will result in negative income, i make a huge purchase on an expensive building i lost no money. When will this be fixed?

  • @genericineverything7619
    @genericineverything7619 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Wait you're telling me that THE paradox interactive has released a game with performance issues and buggs?
    *cough cough Vic 3*

  • @dylanbuk7055
    @dylanbuk7055 Před 2 měsíci +5

    It’s a shame because it has good bones. If they had pushed the release and actually completed it. It would’ve been great. This is just insane.

    • @mdbourne
      @mdbourne Před 2 měsíci

      Well, to be fair they did push the release - multiple times. When Paradox finally forced them to release it, they had already been pushing the release for over 2 years. I really don’t like Paradox, but any publisher at some point will say “you finally gotta release this game now”

    • @opinionday0079
      @opinionday0079 Před 9 dny

      This game was never going to be great it is just similar to city skyline's one you were scammed my friend

  • @incubus_the_man
    @incubus_the_man Před 2 měsíci +12

    They should have named it "Coastal Properties Pack" or "lemme get 10 more dollars till we get our act together Pack".

    • @danielbetancur1250
      @danielbetancur1250 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Prepare yourself for an "Optimization Pack Add-On" for only $39.99

    • @Infernal_Elf
      @Infernal_Elf Před 2 měsíci

      its more like this "Paradox board room " the Fools actually bought the shitty game without trying maybe they will even buy a dlc with no features. so first or second quarter will look even better :D

  • @pfeilspitze
    @pfeilspitze Před 2 měsíci +9

    7:14 "They used to make maps themselves" is a *very* low bar. CO hasn't ever released a properly good map.

  • @ShopFloorMonkey
    @ShopFloorMonkey Před 2 měsíci +6

    I bought all of the Cities Skylines (1) DLCs - apart from the music/radio station ones - and I've put a lot of pretty-engaging hours into CS. I was looking forward to what Collosal Order would do with what was basically a Golden Ticket game, what with the original doing so well and being so well respected.
    However, I simply cannot justify the purchase of this pseudo-early access dross. I don't even feel like having my Parrot download it (where's me Bottle o' Rum?!) as it just looks like such a disappointment.
    And in some respects, I don't care if it was Collosal Order who fumbled the ball or it was Paradox, this is just shoddy and they have squandered the future of a game that looked almost guaranteed to succeed. Sad times, but not exactly surprising any more.

  • @grahamturner2640
    @grahamturner2640 Před 29 dny +1

    Also, the Beach Properties DLC was removed a few weeks ago.

  • @linussyren9221
    @linussyren9221 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I was hyped for the map editor…
    The trailer said it was gonna be “better, more powerful and simpler than C:S1, that was a fat LIE.
    Meanwhile you can import heightmaps… you need so many perfect things on the png to make it work. It has to be 4096x4096 and 16bit that you can’t get with heightmap tools. Only 8bit. So C:S2 can’t even see the file unless it full filles above requirements.
    In C:S1 you could literally put a black and white PNG in the folder and it would work…
    Also we wait until NOW for a beta editor. That should have been available on release.
    And there is no easy way to find your height maps in C:S2 took me over an hour while following a reddit thread because it was not where they said it was… now I have a shortcut if I try again in the future.
    I looked forward to map making in C:S2 but with this much hazel I can’t be bothered to handcraft a map several times bigger than in 1.
    >:(

  • @27hund1
    @27hund1 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Because of this game I will never pre order a game again. I got 9 hours of total game time over the weekend it was released and I just can not see myself playing it again until they fix the damned thing.. If that is this year then I will eat my hat.

    • @hughesy606
      @hughesy606 Před 2 měsíci

      Exactly this, though I only got to four hours before pulling the plug

  • @Chili1179
    @Chili1179 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I look forward to Jack Sparrowing this next year.

  • @dark_sunshinedgc
    @dark_sunshinedgc Před 2 měsíci +2

    I am/was a Sims player, so I'm used to being nickel and dimed for everything by EA. But I learned. For CS2 as a big fan of the original, I was glad it was on gamepass because the price of the game on Steam was ufff. Tried gamepass and the game is ok, but nothing to call home about. I feel very EA on this dlc too. I probably will revisit the game in a few years down the line if it's not completely abandoned by then.

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man Před 2 měsíci +2

    My issue isn’t just with the graphics, city 2 took away tons from the original, gone was thf easy play, gone was the workshop, gone was the I don’t need to read the q&a to build a great city, the changes took some Worksop assets like train and dumped them in to the game engine, real time traffic for instance item was included, BUT it broke so much , gone was the people playing in the parks, football grounds crowds , even improve such as simple things with farms, real character in school or or village. Restaurants with tables and bars With individuals congregate, no instead we have citizen complaint 24/7 with no way of fixing them , no one used sports events but they happily programmed homeless tents, even the values made zero sense add a shop and doctors suddenly your unaffordable., all this could have been fixed easily but in the months persistent problems such as the way traffic handled junctions was clearly set for rhd than left even thf way they merge for s junction wasn’t changed was for a rhd . Also homes are setup for big property you have to micromanage small property placement. Then we get on to transport metro is impossible to see it used to be select the relevant tool and it became transparent, but we don’t want to do that in city 2 oh no we want to make it impossible to see, bus routes were easy to set up , if you wanted an extra stop we we could easily make a tool for that but now make thf route remember where it when since you can’t see it clearly and then add the stops that were ea;y one click before , trains and metros we want you to take over your map with depot ITS A GAME NOT REAL LIFE , take this mechanic out of city 2 . The took city 1 and broke it .
    So now the first dlc comes out called beach front, so you’ll be able to plop sand No, we will see Miami strip style building , no, how about a bit of fish related commercial, no , a Pier no not even a fishing dock or harbour, we got some of the most run down boring designs with s club house woo hoo, not , as someone said they forgot the c in dlc , you even have to pay more for a radio station that’s just not worth it . The dlc should have been free what’s needed now is content not maps not bridges CONTENT. Then we get to the massive elephant graphic, if you can’t run it on two year old equipment you CANT RUN IT ON A CONSOLE with 5 year old hardware and integrated graphics of yesteryear .Linus proved this game eats cores up to 64 of them to be precise, most home owners have 6 or 8 performance cores , yet a 4090 at 4k gets not even 30fps half the time unless to downgrade to 1440 on quality . I don’t know what happened in paradox over lockdown but they have just lost the plot .

  • @vomm
    @vomm Před 2 měsíci +3

    They came to take the crown from EA and now they got even worse ... wtf they introduce stuff packs like in Sims 4. And they don't fix their game before they bring out "DLCs", pardon, "Stuff packs". Instead of giving the players their money back they have stolen by selling a pre alpha tech demo as full release game they now want even more money from us while the game is still not really fixed. They can keep it. I was a huge CS1 and Paradox fan since EUII but now they are just another EA and I wont by anything anymore from them, they are the new bad buys.

  • @steveaustin4118
    @steveaustin4118 Před 2 měsíci +15

    I think paradox should be the ones coming out and making the apologies not CO

    • @laylalululuna
      @laylalululuna Před 2 měsíci +9

      When its good times the publisher takes credit when its bad times its the developers fault

    • @Turamwdd
      @Turamwdd Před 2 měsíci

      CO should not have been 2+ years past their original estimated completion date.

    • @steveaustin4118
      @steveaustin4118 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Turamwdd that doesn't make any sense you want half a game

  • @josefwitt9772
    @josefwitt9772 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Paradox needs to stop doing Paradox things, and by that I don't mean "give up." CS2 has the potential to be more successful than CS1 if it's handled properly. But now that they've tipped their hand and set DLC expectations with the skimpy beach DLC, I'm pretty sure people are angry enough at this point that they're not going to buy an endless Paradox style stream of lightweight and overpriced addons. Those of us that pre-ordered realize we got ripped off and we won't fall for it again. Just wait until they push out the $9.99 Beach Pack expansion for the Beachfront Properties DLC, followed by the $12.99 She Sells Sea Shells DLC featuring a souvenir shop, surf shop, fish market, and 2 bright pink vehicles.
    Looking at how things go these days, instead of observing and learning, they'll double down on their strategy. Remember the CEO quote a couple months ago - "if you aren't happy with the simulation, perhaps this game isn't for you." Blaming the customer instead of acknowledging problems? Sad.

  • @vasa6556
    @vasa6556 Před 2 měsíci +7

    the fact that we expect mods to fix broken games instead of the game devs is just sad

  • @theldraspneumonoultramicro405
    @theldraspneumonoultramicro405 Před 2 měsíci +3

    they screwed up bad, performance is shit, content is lacking, traffic bugs in particular ruining the fun, and lack of content to decorate the city and personalice it and modding support way to slow to arrive, this so called "DLC" should have been a free update and should have included a new map with proper beaches and ability to add beaches yourself in-game and more beach related content and very importantly, placable beach related props.
    before puching DLC's containing what the game should have come with for free at launch, they need to get their shit together and fix the simulation bugs and make all the graphs actually do something.

  • @rd9102
    @rd9102 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have to admit, they seem to be on track to try to destroy their reputation that they had gained over several years to line their pockets. Game was released in an Alpha state and now they want more money for DLC AND they put items behind a paywall they never did in CS1 with putting environment assets in the DLC (palm tree's). In addition not only did they not just offer it for how badly the game was released BUT they ALSO asked more money for less content. I wonder what is going on over there that they think ANY of this is smart?

  • @RobertoGongora
    @RobertoGongora Před 2 měsíci +1

    liked and subscribed, I thought I already was, CZcams has been showing me your videos more than my actual subscriptions, lol.

  • @youtubevanced4900
    @youtubevanced4900 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Are you saying “Pam Tree”?

    • @spikem5950
      @spikem5950 Před 2 měsíci +2

      He's Irish, give him a break.

    • @Wveth
      @Wveth Před 2 měsíci

      The Irish have a hard time with "aw" sound. You also can't do a lot of the vocal sounds you didn't grow up around, it's just how accents work

  • @maartena
    @maartena Před 2 měsíci +2

    I almost never give a bad review to any game, and I really have not with CS2 either..... but with that being said, I have come from a long, long line of games that lie in the "sphere" of Cities Skylines. I played SimCity in the MSDOS days, I played Civilization 1 in the same year(s), and fast forward to now, I have owned (except SimCity 2013) all SimCity games, all Civilizations games and ALL its expansions, I own Cities Skylines 1 and all of its DLC. I also have history with Railroad Tycoon and Transport Tycoon all the way going back to the DOS days, and I still play OpenTTD (an Open Source Transport Tycoon implementation) today. Other games I own include Tropico 4, 5 and 6, Transport Fever 1 and 2, SimAirport, Airport CEO, as well as the Paradox games Stellaris and Surviving Mars.
    So, since the release of SimCity in 1989, almost 35 years ago now, it is fair to say that I have some experience with the genre. And for the record, of all the titles mentioned above, I pirated only two of them: The original Simcity release, and the original Civilization 1 release, as you know..... teenager, exchanging floppy disks in high school. Until I made a move to the United States in 2002, leaving The Netherlands behind..... I still had the original boxes of Simcity 2000, 3000 and Civilization II and III.
    But.... I have never seen a game release so bad, so horribly mismanaged, and so insulting to the long time players of the genre, and in particular those who played Cities Skylines 1, and were expecting a thoroughly improved version of this game. I stopped playing after 1 month, and only came back about 2 weeks ago to check out Thunderstore before modding was announced to be released on the 25th this month. And I am still on the fence. The game doesn't feel ready. It's been SIX MONTHS since release, and modding is still in beta? I mean c'mon..... When they announced that the console version was going to be delayed, I thought to myself: If they postponed that, a version that is likely not going to have all that much modding, the base game must still be in a really poor state. They would have been better off delaying the ENTIRE game for all platforms until just about now.
    Now, will this game become the glorious successor it deserves to be? Yes, I still have faith. But someone at Colossal Order needs to call a management meeting, put the stop on everything, and figure out what they MUST do to make the players happy. I'm sorry folks at CO/Paradox if anyone happens to read this, but it is time to realize you have to sit on the blisters you created. You are going to lose a lot of money in 2024, you are not going to meet your sales targets, and you are 100% guaranteed not yet done with receiving the wrath of angry players, and I really, REALLY do not want to be one of them. Being in the engineering field, I know how big of a slap in the face it is to have worked your collective asses of to create a product, only for the public to treat you like dirt, and I do NOT want to be like that. But this..... is indeed an insult to the players, and you folks need to go sit in a room for a few hours, and come up with something that will act as a REAL apology to the players.
    Not a free building. Not a few free trees. Not even a free mini-DLC. Like I said, you are going to have to sit on the blisters in 2024, you are going to lose money this year, and hopefully..... in 2025 you will be able to fix this mess in such a way we can all be PROUD of you guys, just like I have always been on Cities Skylines 1. I know you can do it, but you need to feel the pain first, and you are not yet done feeling the pain.
    Now, things I recommend Paradox/CO does immediately:
    1) Make "Beach Properties" 100% free to everyone, regardless of having bought Ultimate. Refund people who bought the stand-alone version of it.
    2) To compensate for the loss of 1 DLC within the Ultimate version or the Waterfronts bundle, give them the NEXT content creator pack, whatever it may be, for free. (Those who did not get the Bundle or Ultimate will have to pay again).
    3) Stop tying trees to DLC. This is a huge problem for map makers who may just want to make a desert map, and are not forced to require DLC to plant a few palm trees. Line 1 above will help with that.
    4) Lay out a really clear roadmap for 2024. We already know what is coming Q2, Q3 and Q4 now of course, but make it more clear, and stick to it.
    I want to love this game, and I have started playing again, because I love city builders so much. But I think as a company, Paradox/CO still do not realize how badly they screwed up, and how much pain, including financial pain, they will have to suffer to make it right for the players. If you do the above, I think the players will start coming back..... provided some of the other bugs of course, are fixed. ;)
    Sorry for my long rant, I try to be as professional and non-toxic as possible. We, the players (or maybe just I, this player) am NOT saying all of this because we want you to fail..... I am saying this because I desperately want you to succeed. (And I think I am going to copy this into a forum post now, it is so long....)

  • @developerjas
    @developerjas Před 2 měsíci +2

    I promise I'll make a game better than Skylines in the next few years. Man I loved this game.

  • @mateusaraujo9688
    @mateusaraujo9688 Před 2 měsíci +6

    please, EA, thats ur chance! Bring SIM CITY back

  • @Pashigagiga
    @Pashigagiga Před 2 měsíci +3

    Love your videos, but man always being told at the beginning why we should subscribe and why it benefits you gets old.

  • @libraryofpangea7018
    @libraryofpangea7018 Před 2 měsíci +2

    "Paradox sucks"
    Laughs in World of Darkness player...well. Yeah.
    Looks over at Werewolf the Apocalypse...at Bloodlines 2...
    😭💔

    • @Betis91
      @Betis91 Před měsícem

      Paradox is owned by BlackRock and Larry Skink

  • @diogocarreira5079
    @diogocarreira5079 Před 2 měsíci +1

    FYI This latest update has also broken the traffic AI in my city. I don't know that I've heard any of the reviewers mention it yet

  • @jamesroy791
    @jamesroy791 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Why are they charging players for a DLC for a game that's not even out on consoles

  • @pico2260
    @pico2260 Před 2 měsíci +2

    So, when exactly did EA take over this game?

  • @selwrynn6702
    @selwrynn6702 Před 2 měsíci

    I like watching ppl build things in cities skylines but I don't follow the game itself as I'm not good at it. interesting stuff Bell, thx.

  • @aliasxavikronic
    @aliasxavikronic Před 2 měsíci +3

    I think Paradox fighting against themselves right know. You can see this also on their different project and that is Life by You, they already rescheduled the release date like 3x times now. So I think from devs point of view it is not their fault. Somebody above is pushing and wants money. About CS2 I bought this game at release day and it was horrible experience, it was of course lack of performance and I have to refund it, because it wasn't playable. I hope for comeback like No Man's Sky and they will deliver well made game with good performance.

  • @Kant3n
    @Kant3n Před 2 měsíci +8

    Cool idea, but nothing was wrong with Workshop.

    • @DumbCreative
      @DumbCreative Před 2 měsíci +1

      they can't monetize workshop =D

    • @lucasLSD
      @lucasLSD Před 2 měsíci +5

      Workshop is steam exclusive so it's already wrong by default.

    • @Azdeus
      @Azdeus Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@lucasLSD I fully agree, but them starting yet another mod store that requires email and login isn't the solution. I don't need yet another place to leak those things.

    • @TheRealPotoroo
      @TheRealPotoroo Před 2 měsíci +3

      Steam Workshop isn't cross platform. Paradox Mods is. Steam Workshop also has its own issues, it's clunky and slow and quite frankly, seriously over-rated by people who I suspect want to hate Paradox Mods because it's Paradox.

    • @DumbCreative
      @DumbCreative Před 2 měsíci

      @@TheRealPotoroo Well, if you take issue with the current state of cities 2 and don't play it because of this fact you likely have little confidence in their mod platform or even play any of their games.