The Toronto Maple Leafs Want BOTH Noah Hanifin & Chris Tanev? (Big NHL Trade Rumours)
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- In this video, I go over some big Toronto Maple Leafs trade rumours and use advanced stats, salary cap analysis and contextual information to break them all down
Bruh you need to make more vids. You're like one of the only ones that have opinions with stats to back it up. Are you on any other social media platforms? We need more content!!!
Of course they want to, but whether they can is another question...
Welcome back dude! Missed these videos a ton. Can't wait for the next one
The 🐐 of Leafs content is back LFG
Cowan is the guy you keep out of any trade and could be on the squad earlier than some think IMO.
Hanifan 🤔 I think he sounds locked in to playing in the US. Unless Boston trades for him I think he is a rental.
Tanev I think is possible and could resign here as a hometown boy.
You're back!!!! Thank you!!
You and Steve Dangle are the best two guys out there as far as I am concerned for Leafs Nation, was glad you were back.....but now you are gone again....just before trade deadline when I like listening to you the most, hope you are back soon Steven!
Cant see this deal come though,, for toronto,, if they dont wanna give up a number #1 pick
Very nice at telling it how it is!
Great show buddy.
Welcome back!!!
Your comment regarding player cards and contextualizing numbers is spot on. People see a number (whether good or bad) and instantly create a headline without really knowing what drove that number. Tre needs to be careful not to trade for good numbers but rather how those numbers fit into the makeup of the leafs. Really glad to see you uploading again!
I agree with you, but for the RR card from Andy and Rono, it says on the card that he has a 33rd percentile role difficulty, so some of that context is included on the card. From the card alone, you’re able to deduce that while his 75th percentile defence looks good, it’s against low competition, thus not as attractive.
Your ideas are valid. Leafs can make it work
Everything about this video makes sense. Great watch. 👍
great argument, clown@@methodz2850
It won't happen though.. Hopium is a helluva drug 😂
Bro I'm stoked you're doing videos again. You're my favourite LeafTuber!
Just trade Marner - for these two players. Maybe throw in a Leaf prospect (forward) if necessary?😀Getting rid of one of the four $11Million Leaf forwards is the Leafs main issue - limiting them to no playoff runs.
You do know that happens after next year, right? JT comes off the books, wtf would trading Marner make any sense?
@@killachinchilla9445 One player (smallish skilled forwards) like Marner, Ehlers or Nylander - is enough for playoff success on an NHL team. More just hurts the team.
The way Marner & Nylander are overpaid moving forward makes it more urgent to move Marner). {Marner drops 27% in the playoffs.} Why continue failing with two playoff disappointments (Mitch & Willie)?
But if you want individual records & no playoff runs - just keep the Leafs going with the Playoff Disappointment Core 4 four $11Million forwards. Hockey is only a game & Mitch seems to be content. I can’t blame him.😀
But - There have been 19 other NHL teams not including the Leafs - that are Stanley Cup winners since 1967. The Leafs haven’t had a playoff run for 20 years. The core 4 is where all the money has been spent. So changing out at least 2 of the failing Core 4 is imperative.
@@killachinchilla9445The Leafs have failed with Marner. Marner drops 27% in the playoffs & two smallish non playoff forwards (Marner & Nylander) is too many. Nylander is enough.😀 They committed to Nylander long term - so it is now time for Marner to win cups by moving out of Toronto - like Kessel, Kadri and Bozak.
@@jimlangdon1947 The highest paid player on the team is Matthews, and he was part of every failed playoff series as Mitch. Mitch has out performed Matthews in the playoffs and has 80% of the primary assists on Matthews career goals. You ever put any thought in what trading Auston's best friend on the team would do to Auston? You want to blame someone for bad playoff rosters? Blame Dubas, who let Hyman walk over not willing to give Zack 5 million yet, somehow, Tree had that same amount available to give Bertuzzi. Hyman is now a consideration for team Canada and Bertuzzi hasn't scored in almost 20 games.
You want to trade away one of the four when they are the only ones performing. You remove one of them, than suddenly we have one line instead of two, our third and four line are horrible. That version of a Leafs team, you want to make, wouldn't even make the playoffs and wouldlikelybe a lottery team.
@@killachinchilla9445 The Leafs core 4 just continues to be playoff disappoints with no playoff runs. Do you just want individual Core 4 records, declining team level to Wildcard level this year, over paid Leafs (4 of 9 NHL players at $11Million are Leafs - want more?), and no sign of Playoff Successes as a result of playing small skilled highly paid forwards who do not thrive within playoff officiating - that fail in playoff elimination games? If yes - keep Marner.😀
Welcome back been a long time since you been on
Should of kept Lafferty and acciiari
Welcome back!!! This is awesome!
This is the first of about 6-8 yrs which could easily be replay years, again, after signing Mathews and Nylander to ridiculous sums, especially Nylander. 8 yrs, full no move, insane. If they sign Marner for similar number, then they are screwed. If I was Keefe, Just go along with this lifeless group, gonna get paid good anyway, long as you can.
I don't know why people keep talking about Hanifin coming to Toronto. He's already said he doesn't want to play for a Canadian team...I really doubt this is happening.
A decent deal for those two would be.
1st rounder, Robertson, Liljegren, Kampf, Reaves(cap dump)
For
Tanev and Hanifin (signed)
That’s 3 premium assets for the Flames.
Assuming some resignings I would go with this for 24/25 as Domi and Bertuzzi should come in at $8M combined and you can bring in youth and save cap space for the deadline.
Knies - Matthews - Marner
Bertuzzi - Tavares - Nylander
Cowan - Domi - Jarnkrok
Minten - Holmberg - McMann/Gregor
Rielly - Tanev
Hanifin - McCabe
Benoit - Timmins
Lagesson
Woll
Hildeby or Samsonov
I don’t really buy these rumours honestly
You sound like a smart Leafs fan😅
Sandin and Lilly - bad drafting. Tavares 11M over Kadri - Bad trading and signing. We are in Dubas hell. Tre isn't changing the culture with Nylander at 11.5.
Hindsight is 20/20
At the end of the day it is pretty much a waiting game until Tavares’ 11 million is off the books. The 7th highest paid player in the NHL currently sitting at 71st in league scoring. Easily one of the worst contracts in the league right now.
Not really, he does more than just get points. However Is he overpaid currently, certainly.
@@ItSoupyuoWe also knew when we signed the contract that the backend would bring diminished returns, so non of this is a surprise.
@@ItSoupyuo yes really. The only thing Tavares still does at an elite level is win faceoffs. He is a 6/7 million dollar player making 11. That contract is equivalent to an anchor you’d find on the USS Gerald R. ford
He been overpaid since the pen touched the contract. He is garbage. What has he won individually besides a face off.
71 😂
I have no doubt the Maple Leafs want BOTH Noah Hanifin & Chris Tanev, and probably more. But, as the adage puts it, 'if wishes were horses, beggars would ride." Trading more good Leaf prospects would be just plain dumb, and so the question is ''who do the Leafs give up in return.' Haste always makes waste, and the history of the Leafs themselves shows that...
I enjoy mock trades, but yours is a HARD no.
Kemp’s is signed for another 3- 4yrs, Reaves is also signed to multiple years and both players are old, Cgy is looking to get younger not older. Cgy could get more 1st RD if they move both of those players in separate trades. If Cgy is moving 2x D to Tor, I would believe 1 of the top 3 prospects would be part of the trade.
First for tanev . First and top prospect
Usually when the rumour swirls like this never transpires its more like Calgary using the leaf media to their advantage
This dude is always spot on, I think Trevs is very smart GM and won`t cave for some pylon defense.
Might be a better idea to restock the shelves with picks and prospects until they’re off the Tavares contract cuz they aren’t going anywhere with the current salary structure.
Would cost them one of the core four! Which one??????
I'd like to see them bring in 20-25 year olds who they hopefully could develop to the next level, not known names, not UFAs, like younger versions of Tanev or Schenn. Do you have suggestions?
Welcome Back Mr DTSB.
I agree Hanafin just cant happen they have far to many holes on their roster to go and get a guy making that much AND having to resign him. Now,.... Could they trade for Hanafin with a new 7.5M contract for next season. If he blows you out of the water the rest of the season and the leafs go win the cup then you find a way to keep him.. If not then you flip Hanafin? Maybe..Or if you completely flop again this year Maybe theyre moving on from Marner. who knows?
These are the players I want the leafs to target
Parayko
Tanev
Seeler
Edmundson
Laughton
Vatrano
Jake Evans
A guy like Vatrano would be DEADLY on the wing with Nylander and Tavares imo.
Laughton as 3C, Evans as a 4C possibly 3C
I like Parayko because hes cost controlled.... Hes only going to be making 6.5M for another 6 yeas after this... In a couple years when the cap goes up that deal is going to be a super sweetheart contract.
If I could have a Lineup of
Bertuzzi-Matthews-Marner
Vatrano-Tavares-Nylander
Knies-Laughton-Domi
Holmberg-Evans-Gregor
Reilly-Parayko
McCabe-Tanev
Seeler-Edmundson
Im going all in on that roster.
No, I'm sorry, this team isn't going anywhere this year. Do not trade our picks or prospects. Trade all our U.F.A's for whatever and build your defense this Sunday to start with. You want Tanev? Great, wait until Summer. Hanifen will go to Boston or somewhere else.
7 years of just skill has proven that the Shanaplan does not work. Get the right management and coaching staff in there. Stop babying the core 4.
Tre is off his meds. We won't beat Boston or Florida regardless of who we bring in. Waste
brooo why haven’t you been making videosssss it’s literally day 1 of playoffs for us
Honestly I assume he doesn’t make much making these, plus puts a lot of time into his TSN job.
Can’t blame the guy for choosing to do other things with his free time. It is unfortunate tho, great content. Hopefully, he does something in the offseason.
I’ve fucking missed you Steven holy hell did I miss ur beautiful face bud. Made my day 10 times better
Sign and trades should be more common than thay are. Pay a guy what hes worth, trade him away after a playoff run to select teams. You get some value back, less risk, idk
This team isn't good enough to be buying like that. And Kyle the Glue sniffer dubas burnt away way too many assets as it is.
Can they make it a 3 team deal with van get 2 of hannfin zedorov or tantiv
Mmmmm🤔 don't count out the ever so quiet yet methodical Stevie-Y.. he's sneaky yet efficient.. I hear they're in a shopping for a D-man as well..
Those Detroit Boyz are dangerous and the Red Wings are quietly climbing the the standings.. they run 4 lines now.. they had Fabbri on the 4th line last night?!.. that's crazy depth!😬
It's gonna be interesting to see what Stevie-Y does this year as the Red Wings looking more like buyers at the trade deadline for the first time in nearly 10 years!..😮
This trade would only prove one thing: the "braintrust' have not learned from the terrible mistakes of the last half dozen years. Hanifin is not someone the Leafs could hope to resign -- he is a pure rental. And we have watched the Leafs do this year in and year out and deplete the draft and prospect pool.
They would need to have salary retained this year and also send someone like Brodie the other way -- probably not something Calgary wants.
Big problem with this is repeating what has happened previously. Every trade acquisition has resulted in the new players bolting in the summer. Rotten locker room, bad leadership, spoiled brat players...would you stay?
What's worse is what we've given up.
Actually, it is a great dressing room. Great leadership.
niemilla is a couple years away, trade him if ya can
Why the fuck would we want any players from Calgary?
Having Flames insider info I can guarantee there will be no trade this year between Flames and Leafs.. Craig and Brad discussed a possible trade earlier this season and Flames made it clear they wanted Knies and Treliving said he's untouchable.
That’s a ridiculous ask though lol. It would be like us going to Calgary and saying we will give you a 1st but we don’t want Tanev we want Rasmussen Anderssen
@@BA-kp1us How is Knies a ridiculous ask?? You do realize it wasn't just Tanev involved in trade talk?? It was Tanev and Markstrom.. Flames requested Knies as part of the deal which Tre declined.. Flames were also going to take either Bert or Domi to help salary issues.. Honestly I'm glad it didn't happen I feel we can get much more from other teams.. Leafs aren't going anywheres with that cap situation plus goaltending is really bad I'm sorry but 1st Rd exit for sure
@@CLo-ly1ic how would I or you know that Markstrom was included?
As I said, Knies for Tanev is a ridiculous ask.
@@BA-kp1us all good man,, Nothing against the Leafs and even Tanev would be a great help but I believe we will get more elsewhere and Craig has done amazing being patient and getting the best value.. You can't win all your trades but Conroy is undefeated in my books..
yay! welcome back
Hanifan does not want to play in Canada. Pick him up now and he'll walk at the end of the year.
HTH brought up getting both Tanev brothers.
no on Risto
Apparently I missed your return video. Good to have you back!
The trade for hanafin and Tanev you suggest lol who cares that's a bunch of garbage or third liner top outs
Historically the Flames make bad trades with the Leafs.
I would give a second for risto if they also take reavo or bert and make that retention 35%
Although Tanev could help the Leafs for a year or 2 he is 34 years old and may not have too much good hockey left. Not sure what wouldn't be too much to trade for Tanev who could simply walk next year. I don't see any trade happening between the Leafs and flames.
At the end of the day it’s all full of shit !!! Stop trying to give flames fans nothing to look forward to right now !!! 😡
how do you feel about maybe a boone jenner and justin danforth package from columbus?
Now that's a good trade
Would you bring up Cowan this season?
Cowan the horse Pinto too!
Not going to happen they dont have the cap
I mean, I'd rather we don't move Lilli, but if thats what brings in both, then sure as long as Hanafin signs an extension here. The fact Lilli is a 3-4D AND an RFA after his contract expires, make him a significantly valuable player to a cap-strapped team like the Leafs. That said I'd rather we not move Lilli
Would you trade Samsonov and risk this season on Woll?
Not this year, but highly doubtful that Samsonov is in Toronto next season.
Friedman makes up rumours all the time.
Hanifin doesnt want to resign in canada. More likely to get blake Colman and tanev
lily isnt getting 2 mil he is a number 5/6 right now
The leafs are the most ridiculous franchise in history
Flames have a good team this yr.
There is no reason they should make a trade with the Leafs., not unless it makes the Fkames a better team. !
Which ot will NOT, of. Course if they can get nick Robertson then a trade might get done.
Robertson is a surpluss player for the Leafs, but still a valuable asset to the leafs.
This is the only way Flames are going to make the trade, and why should they, they are going to make the playoffs, for sure this yr.
Mike.
Umm did you die?
Thoughts on Sean Walker (50%) and Scott Laughton?
no thanks
Of course they want to, but whether they can is another question...
Welcome back!