I took pictures of Sacred Heart Catholic church in Tampa, Fl. because it is a historic beautiful building. When one of the priests noticed me taking pictures he welcomed me inside to take interior pictures. Unlike these nuts I can only assume the Catholics are proud of their church and have nothing to hide.
We Catholics ARE proud of our Church and churches. ♡ Not everyone follows the faith, but we welcome everyone at all times in their lives, recognizing that we are a hospital for sinners, not a shrine for saints. These guys seem to think of themselves the opposite of that.
Johnny Fartpants the sad thing is most Scientologist are good people.. they think they are saving people..it’s sad.. they can believe what they want.. They need to reform !! If Captain Dave can change Tech he could lie and say he discovered some writing saying Hubbard wanted to end disconnection..whatever he says they believe..
Hey Mark, I think you just broke the world's record on longest conversation with a scientologist caught on tape. I'm surprised you were able to keep her talking to you for this long.
@@watchgoose freelance cameraman who don't even care to turn their camera on and record cause they get paid anyway just to point that thing in a specific direction, ya right!
Because the Cult has the resources to buy anything it wants, even the sidewalks. Ask Remini about the park she & her film crew were kicked out of by the Clearwater PD. The Cult owned that park & anything else it wants to own. That's a problem. Where does this Cult of Criminals get that kind of money? You can know more.
Interesting to watch as her body language changes throughout the interview. At one point her hands even come down showing that she's becoming less defensive. Good work Mark!
n. p. I've been outside of it once, it was so so so creepy. Several ppl came out. I was scared. I chose to fart on their door and take a long random way back to my car. Fucking cult.
n. p. The real mission was to steal their followers money and then use it to buy property as an investment that is solely owned tax free by David Miscavige. So... mission accomplished. Unfortunately. Where’s the IRS when we actually need them. Religion my ass.
Look it man. I was born and raised a Methodist in the South. Never have i ever encountered a Methodist Church with such tight security. This throws up many red flags for me.
She is not in the Sea Organisation so no rpf (rehabilitation project force) for staff of a class 4 org. She handled him well so probably a commendation.
She is lying through her teeth. I remember midnight meetings where they had enough trouble meeting regular rent as well as the money to hand over to the Sea Org management. They as well as other orgs have to pay a fee or rent to management.
I love how she goes step by step down the directives regarding people who are filming. She calls it harassment - he says no. Then she says he's trespassing -- he says he's not. Then she tells him he must go -- he says no. And on and on. It's hilarious how after every time he rebuffs her she backs up and recalculates her "attack" in her head.
In the tradition of LRH this woman is a master at confronting and shattering suppression. (LRH confronted all the way to illness, stroke and death with booze and cigarettes, alone in a Bluebird motor home outside Creston, CA. Only Annie Broeker and Steve Pfauth with him at the secret location. Plus Gene Denk (doctor) at the very end.
Recording is NOT a form of harassment. Not if it is in a public place. People get filmed a Disneyland all day long. And public parks. And public streets. And markets. Same thing here. If someone is offended at filming on a public street, that is their problem. This woman is out of touch. In the meantime, scientology will set up cameras in the woods outside Marty Rathbun's house and secretly film his wife in their private home.
doctorbear She's not out of touch. She was performing her religion on him. She was trying to provoke him (confront) and trying to order him to leave (command intention). She lies (whats's true for her is true) to him about the legality of what he's doing. She repeatedly insults him, calls him names, impugns his motivations, intimates that he's gay. (She's trying to force him down the tone scale so he'll get angry and lash out, which he doesn't.) She pumps him for information about why he's there, who is coming to visit, where they'll meet and go, when he's leaving (for her knowledge report back to OSA).
I honestly feel sorry for this women. She held her composure and was not mean, but clearly is a true Scientology believer. I hope this talk sticks with her when she finally sees the light.
Come to do this with Hill Song Church here in Australia. I had to call the cops because I wanted to leave an event and they wouldn't let me. I was only there because a friend of my sister asked me to.
+Chris Klimmer I agree. But I also consider that the protesters do react to being baited & physically intimidated by Scientology members who are trained to do so. Mark doesn't let any of her digs get under his skin. He got her guard down and got an interview. And I think he made much more progress than a protester would have.
Lol I live 20 min away from this org and they clearly do not like the community they bullied themselves into. I was at the bookstore across the street and I walked out of the store and I am goth and a out pagan and they saw me and ran away back inside the building. The 3 x I've been by their door the place is empty and no locals go into this building. Its set up like a army recruitment center and no one us buying what they are selling. I think its funny that they have LRHs office there like he's coming back um he's dead. ( just a local point of view).
Wow Mark, you handled this so well!! Through your kindness and being reasonable, she couldn't accuse you of anything and you got her to talk as a result. Sadly she probably got punished by the church but who knows what seeds you planted in her mind?
Mark. They are delusional and you can’t fix crazy in a conversation (no matter how factually correct). They have to come to the realization to themselves. The FBI needs to get involved.
Julia Douglas Yes Julia I totally agree I have often said Why the FBI havent gotten involved especially since Shelly Misgaviche is really missing .And the LAPD saying she's fine doesn't cut it .They will put people in jail for SUSPECTED terrorism ,but they can't investigate these guys?What does Scientology have over the " Feds"
Great video Mr. Bunker. Two of my fellow coworkers quit their jobs to join the so called "church" 2 or 3 years ago. They are brothers. I tried to discourage them from doing this, because they were very nice young men, and I thought they were making the wrong decision. They joined anyway and I lost contact with them. Recently I wanted to find out more about just how crazy scientology is (capital S omitted purposely). Well it is crazier than I had ever thought. I can only hope these brothers have since quit. It is scary to see how much these scientologists have to hide. Thank you for the work you do! Stop eating so many prunes!
OH BOY! I LOVED how she responded to your compliments. poor girl. i do feel bad for her. you could see when she realized she was outclassed, then her expression changed. and then it fouled. then you could see the doubt and fear wash over her despite her brainwashing. i think you made a dent, mark. please keep doing it.
She’s so hesitant about discussing disconnection. She needs to get out of there. I can tell she’s not with it. She’s not in support firmly. The ground about her seems to totter. She knows she’s stuck. I do feel pity for her. She’s forcing smiles when he says his farewells. She’s not happy there. 😔
Someday, Gwen is going to blow, and when she does I hope one of the first things she does is call Mark "Prunes" Bunker and give him one hell of an interview! I love this video! I'm in awe of your greatness as always, Mark!
It's amusing.. she's running Scientology drills on you in this video. She's running Training Routines, trying to "8C" you away. She's trained (and trains others) on how to make people leave or get a rise so they freak out. Basically she's telling you that YOU"RE harassing her, while she's doing things like getting close to your face, walking around you, starting an an argument to try to make your project more trouble than it's worth. But you remain relatively composed while it's obvious how upset she is. She was getting choked up when that lady asked for directions. By the end she's feebly looking for ways to make you look bad but just makes herself look bad with her unwavering contempt for you. LOL at her faces at you! You stayed on your toes, did really well in the convo man, good work.
She even tried to intimate that he enjoyed being frisked like that was some sort of an insult. She wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds in a conversation with me after that.
Mark Bunker, I salute you for not using names in the conversation and watch yourself, they do harras people by words and dont want any criticism around them. i just found your channel and everything in it is very professional.
Mark, you are a respectful, genuine Person..My heart goes out to this women, paranoid and self inprisoned, deny, deny, deny....They are not allowed to compare notes with each other, so when she says they talk, that is untrue...
The thing that makes me really sad? I LIKE this woman. She seems like a genuinely sweet person. She might have gotten a bit pointy during the interview, but she's been taught and trained and conditioned to react that way. I hope someday she'll get out, and maybe even do an "after" interview.
+richard Taylor What do they do with old scientologists? They have no savings or pensions, no family unless the family is in the cult. Do they dump them on the government? Or kill them?
+vivaloriflamme Probably both. But you've raised an excellent point-Yet another reason that some can't leave the cult because they have no home, no savings, no car, no education.
These Scientologists are wacky and paranoid. You were just standing there. No harassment at all! It shows they are SO VERY SCARED of being exposed. I'm so glad you stood your ground, You have every right to be there. They might own thousands of their followers but they don't own you. You go, Mark! Good video!
This woman is on Facebook. I don't really use Facebook, but I am considering contacting her. She seems nice, and I hope she can wake up and realize what she's supporting and what she's a part of. I really hate to think of nice people being taken advantage of on a daily basis.
Sorry did you say she is on Facebook? I thought that was banned. Didn’t Ron Miscavage find Facebook and Google hadnt been deactivated on his kindle that David gave him.
What is her Facebook let's all go to her page and wake her up and tell her the whole truth and save her from destroying her life with this cult she is nice so let's save her
She’s so transparent. She tries so hard to play adult, but whenever she’s upset or trying to avoid the truth, she digresses to name calling and ridiculous faux laughing. As transparent as the windows of their building! Amazing how much she knows about you, Mark! I hope you keep safe! Yikes! Great interview! You are the man!
I hope that Mark continues his videos and interview people when he's better. I love him. He's so calm, respectful, and has a great sense of humour. Deep inside I'm sure these scientologists or at least some, like to interact with him.
Gwen comes across as a lair and her laughing makes her look like a crazy person. It's extremely spooky that she first pretends not to know who she is talking to and then proceeds to describe numerous personal details. When Gwen initially confronts Mark, she states he is trespassing which is clearly not the fact. I'm amazed that she continued to talk with Mark for over half an hour.
I must admit, she's got skills; her tone and rebuttals are great. She's like your 3rd grade teacher, gently scolding you with a smile. I wouldn't join the 'church', but I'd hang out with her. And "full of prunes" is my new favorite.
Owlz Eyez It's passive aggressive Scientology tech. It's what they do. I'm glad my 3rd grade teacher didn't do that to me. That would be horrifying for a kid.
anonruda You nailed it. Passive aggressive. She's happy when she thinks she's managing him, but then seethes on the inside when he stays put right where he was, camera the same as before... Then she gets conrtol and starts again, the anger repressed once more.... She is mean--I did have a 6th grade teacher like her in a private crazy Christian school--she would paddle the kids who lacked power in front of the class--the girl who was too tall and skinny and had learning disabilities (now she'd be a super-model probably), the boy who had no dad...but she never tried to take me on because I was smart and smart-mouthed. I will never forget watching her enjoy hurting kids who needed help, not punishment. Changed me forever.
Hey Mark. Great to see you out there. I live here in P-town as well and will be following you in case you do this again. These folks are teaching children nonsense and we need more folks like you making that public.
Mark and Gwen seemed to have some chemistry going there. Both of them seem like very nice people. I got to give Gwen credit: She looks to me like an excellent spokesman for Scientology. Too bad she is not running the organization.
Sing little bird. She said alot....wow. I only hope that this conversation might be the genisys of her realisation of Scientology's slavery and depravity. I shudder at her being screamed and sweared at. Poor lady.
@ 16:46 Gwen tries to scare Mark away from recording with his camera by saying: "Because in the State of Oregon, you know you've got to be pretty up front about what doing with that stuff cuz it's illegal." He was simply filming the general area. HAHA that's the funniest shit I've heard all day!
Great stuff. It is remarkable seeing the lady's collapse in real time from trying to sound like a "Church Minister" to sounding like a silly teenager. For a viewer without prior exposure to this cult, her behaviour probably looks shockingly confrontational. But to those who know something about this cult, the lady actually sounds unusually polite.
She actually handled it better than some. Some fly off the damn handle. She seems to be a smart and good person. Sad that it's such a waste. Can she or did she get into some kind of trouble for speaking to you like this? Love this channel and have learned a lot from you. I don't believe you are full of prunes!
Gwen seems like a ridiculously lovely person, minus the ideology. I think that's what a lot of detractors miss .. many scientologists have a great desire to help other people. It starts that way, and then they get in and get trapped for tens of reasons. I consider myself an anti-theist, but I am not so blind that I can't see when peeps, like the lovely Gwen, are good folks caught in a total mind-trap. I hope she is happy and lessens the suffering of herself and others. "Full of prunes". She made me bark out the most wonderful laugh. Xenu bless her pointy little heart. ❤
That's exactly what I thought! Glad to know that I'm not the only one. I posted about it up above. If only her energies and talents were directed to a good and useful purpose.
how did she know bunker is from san diego? he was there at the san diego location sure, but how did she know he was from there??! hmm, and so if i go to a catholic church and film it from the outside catholic members going inside and leaving would be "scared and upset" someone is filming their church from the outside? REALLY? REALLY? i don't think so!
Good Lord. I'm just blown away by your patience and kindness. She, on the other hand, is paranoid and has ultimate mistrust yet still felt compelled to have a discussion with you (that is GREAT journalism, BTW). I was taken aback that she knew your name for a minute, but then I remembered that you're likely an SP... And they know their SPs like the post office knows the FBI's most wanted poster. Bravo, Mark.
By Scientology standards. she seems remarkably reasonable. Maybe if the organisation was more like her, including by being more transparent and open, then it would have fewer problems.
this lady is really unfriendly, even for an american ... seems like "freedom of speech" leads to being free of manners. if this is a church, if she is a priest, then she is a bad one and should be fired.
His beard is wise. "We'll always have Paris..." I actually like this lady. She is a true believer of her religion but those waves of doubt during the interview were priceless. I predict she blows the church in six months and makes a video with WBM and Tory.
CMO5569 I kind of like her too. But she's totally brainwashed. I'd love to see Tory Christman connect to her. I think they'd be friends, if Tory weren't an SP.
I am a member of the Church of Scientology. My particular group is called Friendly And Good Scientologists, of F.A.G.S. for short, and we believe in giving Scientology a good name. We really are a friendly and inviting org and we welcome all to join us.
Yeah and bleed you dry of money. It's nothing but a cult who makes women get abortions and makes ppl disconnect from their own families if a person decides its not for them. They get paranoid of ppl leave. They harass them. Make up lies about them. What church does that. Sends ppl to the hole for bad behaviour. They barely feed ppl. Unless you are a celebrity then you are treated like a slave. This is nothing but a money making scheme. Hubbard was a lunatic
I find it hilarious that a Scientology exec is feeling harassed and saying its wrong when actual harrassment is the first thing that they do to dissenters and ex memevers.
This reporter doesn't have to explain why he's standing on a Portland sidewalk.
If anyone is harassing it's her
I took pictures of Sacred Heart Catholic church in Tampa, Fl. because it is a historic beautiful building. When one of the priests noticed me taking pictures he welcomed me inside to take interior pictures. Unlike these nuts I can only assume the Catholics are proud of their church and have nothing to hide.
Exactly. Why are they so secretive? What are they hiding?
Ernest Bigot This definitely would have been a better response by this lady.
We Catholics ARE proud of our Church and churches. ♡ Not everyone follows the faith, but we welcome everyone at all times in their lives, recognizing that we are a hospital for sinners, not a shrine for saints. These guys seem to think of themselves the opposite of that.
Were you an underage boy at the time? I am guessing that had something to do with your invite.
I am totally joking. You have a good point and you would think they would invite people in and be more open to recruit into their cult.
This woman is harassing him!!! Asking very intrusive questions, and calling him names. She is a very sad deceived person.
That's portland Oregon for you Hillsboro oregon is like that too the people are fucked in the head.
Lee 1227 reprogramming to believe that Xenu dropped alien souls into a volcano 🤔🤣
She’s still just as unpleasant in 2024. I see her every time I protest.
How is filming a building, and asking questions harassment?! Those people sound so paranoid!!
its not, its peer pressure to be mean to "suppressive people".
They sound like cops
its not, the lady is a freak,,,wowzers...lol
@Brad Williams mark is a suppressive person who repeatedly tries to attach Scientology.
Dnt know much about the Catholic church do you Brad!
I think she is a decent lady,it's a shame she is brainwashed by this cult,i hope she will see this one day.
their not allowed on the internet
I wonder if she beats the shit out of her subordinates behind closed doors
What on earth has she said or done that would lead you to believe she is "decent"?
Johnny Fartpants no shes not :) shes a psychopath, look at that laugh. Shes like fucking cruella from 101 Dalmatians
Johnny Fartpants the sad thing is most Scientologist are good people.. they think they are saving people..it’s sad.. they can believe what they want.. They need to reform !! If Captain Dave can change Tech he could lie and say he discovered some writing saying Hubbard wanted to end disconnection..whatever he says they believe..
Hey Mark, I think you just broke the world's record on longest conversation with a scientologist caught on tape. I'm surprised you were able to keep her talking to you for this long.
Rob Aguilar I bet she’s still in The Hole for this
Yeah. She's scrubbing toilets with her toothbrush for something or another.
@@EGC316 Haha I was thinking the same thing.
All the while accusing him of harassing her, when SHE approached him all passive agressive with her siri robot voice 😂
My my, a lot of disaffected scientologists here. Lotsa withholds.
Scientology has a lot of nerve condemning people for not acting "normal" for not behaving in a friendly manner for causing concern.
"It's time for you to go Mark." No Gwen, it's time for you to blow.
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"this isnt normal" oh and posting cameras and hiring private investigators to sit and film former members is totally normal right??
I'm so glad they don't know where I live
They hire and film and harass all the time to a degree that's criminal. Scientology is sick
not normal? people walk around taking video every day!
Exactly. What church does that? You can't just decide it's not for me and walk away. They hunt you down and spread rumours. Horrible ppl
@@watchgoose freelance cameraman who don't even care to turn their camera on and record cause they get paid anyway just to point that thing in a specific direction, ya right!
Only the guilty are defensive. Scientologists are unbelievably defensive.
velveetaslingshot ignore it all everyone else is wrong OR attack never defend! those are the ONLY 2 ways they can act...
She's not passive aggressive - she's aggressively passive
No. Paranoid people are also defensive
They attack more then they defend
Why do they think they have control of public sidewalk?
Because the Cult has the resources to buy anything it wants, even the sidewalks. Ask Remini about the park she & her film crew were kicked out of by the Clearwater PD. The Cult owned that park & anything else it wants to own. That's a problem. Where does this Cult of Criminals get that kind of money? You can know more.
No one can buy a public sidewalk, but you know they've tried.
Interesting to watch as her body language changes throughout the interview. At one point her hands even come down showing that she's becoming less defensive. Good work Mark!
Sad thing? He's doing us all a favour.
I feel sorry for this lady. I hope she finds her courage and regains control over her life. .
Portland Scientology's hall and walkways are DESERTED 2017.
mission accomplished!
n. p. I've been outside of it once, it was so so so creepy. Several ppl came out. I was scared. I chose to fart on their door and take a long random way back to my car. Fucking cult.
n. p.
The real mission was to steal their followers money and then use it to buy property as an investment that is solely owned tax free by David Miscavige. So... mission accomplished. Unfortunately. Where’s the IRS when we actually need them. Religion my ass.
So it closed finally
@@piinky3057 can't imagine why😂
thnx for the heads up, good to know
They're still distributing lit. My GF found pamphlets from them at Lloyd Center.
Mark, you are a legend and you do a great job. Thank you for all the work you do against this ridiculous cult.
Look it man. I was born and raised a Methodist in the South. Never have i ever encountered a Methodist Church with such tight security. This throws up many red flags for me.
@Lee 1227 the Methodists split in the 1840s because of the Southerners' support for slavery
@Lee 1227 in 1890 that could not happen in any organization except in some Far Left groups.
@Lee 1227 if I'm wrong, then where else could that have happened at the time?
She probably got in trouble for this interview. She's probably been sent to the RPF.
She'll be holding those cans on the E meter for months now hahahaaha
She is not in the Sea Organisation so no rpf (rehabilitation project force) for staff of a class 4 org. She handled him well so probably a commendation.
Mark, you dealt with her brilliantly.
There’s a lot of fear within Scientology.
I swear to God if they ever tried to make me fear them I would show them the real meaning of fear. I'm talking pliers and a blowtorch.
She is lying through her teeth. I remember midnight meetings where they had enough trouble meeting regular rent as well as the money to hand over to the Sea Org management. They as well as other orgs have to pay a fee or rent to management.
she said she read your work, but in truth she isn't allowed to read your stuff
I love how she goes step by step down the directives regarding people who are filming. She calls it harassment - he says no. Then she says he's trespassing -- he says he's not. Then she tells him he must go -- he says no. And on and on. It's hilarious how after every time he rebuffs her she backs up and recalculates her "attack" in her head.
jmasiulewicz1 maybe she went to shoot docs w mark🤣
In the tradition of LRH this woman is a master at confronting and shattering suppression. (LRH confronted all the way to illness, stroke and death with booze and cigarettes, alone in a Bluebird motor home outside Creston, CA. Only Annie Broeker and Steve Pfauth with him at the secret location. Plus Gene Denk (doctor) at the very end.
So glad that I threw my book of Dianetics away.
This woman did NOT want the interview to end😂
Recording is NOT a form of harassment. Not if it is in a public place. People get filmed a Disneyland all day long. And public parks. And public streets. And markets. Same thing here. If someone is offended at filming on a public street, that is their problem. This woman is out of touch.
In the meantime, scientology will set up cameras in the woods outside Marty Rathbun's house and secretly film his wife in their private home.
doctorbear She's not out of touch. She was performing her religion on him. She was trying to provoke him (confront) and trying to order him to leave (command intention). She lies (whats's true for her is true) to him about the legality of what he's doing. She repeatedly insults him, calls him names, impugns his motivations, intimates that he's gay. (She's trying to force him down the tone scale so he'll get angry and lash out, which he doesn't.) She pumps him for information about why he's there, who is coming to visit, where they'll meet and go, when he's leaving (for her knowledge report back to OSA).
Confession time huh!
creepy woman
she is brain washed look at her eyes they are wide as fuck!!!
David Montgomery
She's folding her arms. That's a unconscious self-defense pose.
Truly Foul.
Absolutely!
David Montgomery Maybe someday she will find this is not for me.
I honestly feel sorry for this women. She held her composure and was not mean, but clearly is a true Scientology believer. I hope this talk sticks with her when she finally sees the light.
Come to do this with Hill Song Church here in Australia. I had to call the cops because I wanted to leave an event and they wouldn't let me. I was only there because a friend of my sister asked me to.
mark bunker is very respectful in this video I think that other protesters who do videos should behave like mr bunker
+Chris Klimmer I agree. But I also consider that the protesters do react to being baited & physically intimidated by Scientology members who are trained to do so. Mark doesn't let any of her digs get under his skin. He got her guard down and got an interview. And I think he made much more progress than a protester would have.
I agree. I doubt if I could be as cool. He has every bit of my respect.
Chris Klimmer I agree 100% with you!
Like "angry gay pope"! Jeez he is doing it all wrong. Mark is doing it right and i thank him for using his time to shed light on this nonsense.
Agree! The angry gay dick is a total ass hat. he makes the Sea org look nice
Btw this woman is so fired. She was not being vicious or degrading in a way that makes a good Scientology work ethics report.
sent to the hole.
She will get a nice round of Security Checks or probably a nice tour of duty on Rehabilitation Project Force.
n. p. This woman is crazy crazy Scientologist
Contact Info correct
Hahaha
Did you guys notice how they are closed the blindes to the end.. so funny.
Because they are "so proud" of their organization. ...and we laughed and laughed
Lol I live 20 min away from this org and they clearly do not like the community they bullied themselves into. I was at the bookstore across the street and I walked out of the store and I am goth and a out pagan and they saw me and ran away back inside the building. The 3 x I've been by their door the place is empty and no locals go into this building. Its set up like a army recruitment center and no one us buying what they are selling. I think its funny that they have LRHs office there like he's coming back um he's dead. ( just a local point of view).
Have you tried to go in ?
@@roadtripadventuregirl1281 I'm going with he's too smart to go in. He can spot a destructive cult just like so many do nowadays.
Oh they are really prepared. I wish I remember the outrageous lengths I saw they prepare his return
Wow Mark, you handled this so well!! Through your kindness and being reasonable, she couldn't accuse you of anything and you got her to talk as a result. Sadly she probably got punished by the church but who knows what seeds you planted in her mind?
"are you recording me now?" Ugh...yea, now that you stepped in front of the camera.
Lol...do'h...
mykylc 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow! A member of Scientology has actually learned how to communicate with you guys.
All hope is not Lost :)
Mark. They are delusional and you can’t fix crazy in a conversation (no matter how factually correct). They have to come to the realization to themselves. The FBI needs to get involved.
Julia Douglas Yes Julia I totally agree I have often said Why the FBI havent gotten involved especially since Shelly Misgaviche is really missing .And the LAPD saying she's fine doesn't cut it .They will put people in jail for SUSPECTED terrorism ,but they can't investigate these guys?What does Scientology have over the " Feds"
Great video Mr. Bunker. Two of my fellow coworkers quit their jobs to join the so called "church" 2 or 3 years ago. They are brothers. I tried to discourage them from doing this, because they were very nice young men, and I thought they were making the wrong decision. They joined anyway and I lost contact with them. Recently I wanted to find out more about just how crazy scientology is (capital S omitted purposely). Well it is crazier than I had ever thought. I can only hope these brothers have since quit. It is scary to see how much these scientologists have to hide. Thank you for the work you do! Stop eating so many prunes!
You can tell the suits in the building are nervous.
If scientology weren't so abusive, it's actually funny!
10:23 guy inside looking
That lady cant make you leave. You are on the sidewalk on public property and not bothering her or anyone else. She is a fool.
She just admitted that there is DISCONNECTION, something that has adamantly denied by the heirarchy
OH BOY! I LOVED how she responded to your compliments. poor girl. i do feel bad for her. you could see when she realized she was outclassed, then her expression changed. and then it fouled. then you could see the doubt and fear wash over her despite her brainwashing. i think you made a dent, mark. please keep doing it.
Scientologists can't think for themselves
I wonder what broke that woman, what event in her life lead her to this place.
She’s so hesitant about discussing disconnection. She needs to get out of there. I can tell she’s not with it. She’s not in support firmly. The ground about her seems to totter. She knows she’s stuck. I do feel pity for her.
She’s forcing smiles when he says his farewells. She’s not happy there. 😔
Is she clear?
Someday, Gwen is going to blow, and when she does I hope one of the first things she does is call Mark "Prunes" Bunker and give him one hell of an interview! I love this video! I'm in awe of your greatness as always, Mark!
It's amusing.. she's running Scientology drills on you in this video. She's running Training Routines, trying to "8C" you away. She's trained (and trains others) on how to make people leave or get a rise so they freak out. Basically she's telling you that YOU"RE harassing her, while she's doing things like getting close to your face, walking around you, starting an an argument to try to make your project more trouble than it's worth. But you remain relatively composed while it's obvious how upset she is. She was getting choked up when that lady asked for directions. By the end she's feebly looking for ways to make you look bad but just makes herself look bad with her unwavering contempt for you. LOL at her faces at you! You stayed on your toes, did really well in the convo man, good work.
She even tried to intimate that he enjoyed being frisked like that was some sort of an insult. She wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds in a conversation with me after that.
wheres the lady asking for directions, which minute of the video, i cant find it
You handled her soo well, I think she honestly was enjoying your company
A Church knowing where he lives is a warning sign alone
These people are both odd and dangerous..
Mark Bunker, I salute you for not using names in the conversation and watch yourself, they do harras people by words and dont want any criticism around them. i just found your channel and everything in it is very professional.
Mark, you are a respectful, genuine Person..My heart goes out to this women, paranoid and self inprisoned, deny, deny, deny....They are not allowed to compare notes with each other, so when she says they talk, that is untrue...
She is accusing him of exactly what they do to people, but theirs in a more covert way!
The thing that makes me really sad? I LIKE this woman. She seems like a genuinely sweet person. She might have gotten a bit pointy during the interview, but she's been taught and trained and conditioned to react that way. I hope someday she'll get out, and maybe even do an "after" interview.
Lol what do you think Dianetics is? Its all about reacting
No she’s a bossy know it all pig
you're fucking rad, mark bunker. good job.
+richard Taylor No doubt.
+richard Taylor What do they do with old scientologists? They have no savings or pensions, no family unless the family is in the cult. Do they dump them on the government? Or kill them?
+vivaloriflamme Probably both. But you've raised an excellent point-Yet another reason that some can't leave the cult because they have no home, no savings, no car, no education.
These Scientologists are wacky and paranoid. You were just standing there. No harassment at all! It shows they are SO VERY SCARED of being exposed. I'm so glad you stood your ground, You have every right to be there. They might own thousands of their followers but they don't own you. You go, Mark! Good video!
Poor lady. . .anyone who finds prunes to be THAT funny, lives a very sad life.
This is bloody fascinating.
what are the chances the woman asking directions was a member trying to break up this interview?
That's exactly what I thought! Probably there to report what was happening and develop a strategy or spy on how well she was handling the interview.
I'd bet good money on it.
meh. Mamma Mia's is right around the corner and super popular.
who sees someone infront of a camera talking and interupts to ask directions XD
100%
This makes me want to buy a video camera and get busy exposing the truth.
Did you see the curtains go down behind her! Lol hiding behind them. Thank you Mark for brining the light!
I'm quite surprised that she took the time to speak with you. The typical response would be to runaway inside and close the blinds.
This woman is on Facebook. I don't really use Facebook, but I am considering contacting her. She seems nice, and I hope she can wake up and realize what she's supporting and what she's a part of. I really hate to think of nice people being taken advantage of on a daily basis.
I agree! Hate the cult, love the cultist!
Sorry did you say she is on Facebook? I thought that was banned. Didn’t Ron Miscavage find Facebook and Google hadnt been deactivated on his kindle that David gave him.
TheKingOfRuckus what’s her name?
She's on FB and still associated with the cult
What is her Facebook let's all go to her page and wake her up and tell her the whole truth and save her from destroying her life with this cult she is nice so let's save her
Its sad really. She knows how hard it is to defend the "church".
She’s so transparent. She tries so hard to play adult, but whenever she’s upset or trying to avoid the truth, she digresses to name calling and ridiculous faux laughing. As transparent as the windows of their building!
Amazing how much she knows about you, Mark! I hope you keep safe! Yikes!
Great interview! You are the man!
I could tell she enjoyed the flirting.
She was so into it
I know!
Cat ladies are like that.
Here sir, have my like. I live in Portland, and I had no idea there was this cult invading my city.
I hope that Mark continues his videos and interview people when he's better. I love him. He's so calm, respectful, and has a great sense of humour. Deep inside I'm sure these scientologists or at least some, like to interact with him.
Mark Bunker, I think you charmed this Scientologist. You’re doing the Lords work brother. I’m with you.
The best thing about this video is that she's making it so much more suspect than the one filming.
Gwen comes across as a lair and her laughing makes her look like a crazy person. It's extremely spooky that she first pretends not to know who she is talking to and then proceeds to describe numerous personal details.
When Gwen initially confronts Mark, she states he is trespassing which is clearly not the fact. I'm amazed that she continued to talk with Mark for over half an hour.
I think a bunch of us should go stand around there and talk about the weather, or sidewalks or idk..cost of tea..lol
The prune report, LOL Love it. I think this has been one of the best interviews you've had with a scientologist!
Thank you for doing the work that you do!
Pretty sure she was thirsty for Mark by the end, there.
notice how defeated she becomes at the end when you mention disconnection.
This woman is the smartest sci tool I have seen since Mike rinder. For the first time in ages a spokesperson who can communicate.
All dislikes are from people that attended "the event" - that's how you know how many people attended.
I must admit, she's got skills; her tone and rebuttals are great. She's like your 3rd grade teacher, gently scolding you with a smile. I wouldn't join the 'church', but I'd hang out with her. And "full of prunes" is my new favorite.
Owlz Eyez It's passive aggressive Scientology tech. It's what they do. I'm glad my 3rd grade teacher didn't do that to me. That would be horrifying for a kid.
Ugh, get over yourself.
anonruda I totally agree, She's scary as hell. Completely psychopathic bubbling just under the surface. Her breath is hot with bile.
anonruda You nailed it. Passive aggressive. She's happy when she thinks she's managing him, but then seethes on the inside when he stays put right where he was, camera the same as before... Then she gets conrtol and starts again, the anger repressed once more.... She is mean--I did have a 6th grade teacher like her in a private crazy Christian school--she would paddle the kids who lacked power in front of the class--the girl who was too tall and skinny and had learning disabilities (now she'd be a super-model probably), the boy who had no dad...but she never tried to take me on because I was smart and smart-mouthed. I will never forget watching her enjoy hurting kids who needed help, not punishment. Changed me forever.
It's great how your so polite, but she is so defensive because talking about disconnecting is indefensible!
“Full of prunes!” 🤣🤣🤣 I’m stealing it!
Hey Mark. Great to see you out there. I live here in P-town as well and will be following you in case you do this again. These folks are teaching children nonsense and we need more folks like you making that public.
Mark and Gwen seemed to have some chemistry going there. Both of them seem like very nice people. I got to give Gwen credit: She looks to me like an excellent spokesman for Scientology. Too bad she is not running the organization.
Mark bunker,killing them with kindness.
And killing them with truth. The Cult hates the truth.
Truly disgusting what they make children do, splitting up families, draining people of money, etc etc etc. This Clan should be CHARGED TAXES!!
Sing little bird. She said alot....wow.
I only hope that this conversation might be the genisys of her realisation of Scientology's slavery and depravity. I shudder at her being screamed and sweared at. Poor lady.
@ 16:46 Gwen tries to scare Mark away from recording with his camera by saying: "Because in the State of Oregon, you know you've got to be pretty up front about what doing with that stuff cuz it's illegal." He was simply filming the general area. HAHA that's the funniest shit I've heard all day!
I know right ... She sounded so stupid
I love Mark tons! Keep up the amazing work.
Great stuff. It is remarkable seeing the lady's collapse in real time from trying to sound like a "Church Minister" to sounding like a silly teenager. For a viewer without prior exposure to this cult, her behaviour probably looks shockingly confrontational. But to those who know something about this cult, the lady actually sounds unusually polite.
She actually handled it better than some. Some fly off the damn handle. She seems to be a smart and good person. Sad that it's such a waste.
Can she or did she get into some kind of trouble for speaking to you like this?
Love this channel and have learned a lot from you. I don't believe you are full of prunes!
Gwen seems like a ridiculously lovely person, minus the ideology. I think that's what a lot of detractors miss .. many scientologists have a great desire to help other people. It starts that way, and then they get in and get trapped for tens of reasons. I consider myself an anti-theist, but I am not so blind that I can't see when peeps, like the lovely Gwen, are good folks caught in a total mind-trap. I hope she is happy and lessens the suffering of herself and others. "Full of prunes". She made me bark out the most wonderful laugh. Xenu bless her pointy little heart. ❤
Lovely? She is nuts!!
NICE? Lmao, she a nasty piece of crap
That's exactly what I thought! Glad to know that I'm not the only one. I posted about it up above. If only her energies and talents were directed to a good and useful purpose.
how did she know bunker is from san diego? he was there at the san diego location sure, but how did she know he was from there??! hmm, and so if i go to a catholic church and film it from the outside catholic members going inside and leaving would be "scared and upset" someone is filming their church from the outside? REALLY? REALLY? i don't think so!
Good Lord. I'm just blown away by your patience and kindness. She, on the other hand, is paranoid and has ultimate mistrust yet still felt compelled to have a discussion with you (that is GREAT journalism, BTW). I was taken aback that she knew your name for a minute, but then I remembered that you're likely an SP... And they know their SPs like the post office knows the FBI's most wanted poster. Bravo, Mark.
By Scientology standards. she seems remarkably reasonable.
Maybe if the organisation was more like her, including by being more transparent and open, then it would have fewer problems.
Oh yeah, I can see the sparks between these two.
this lady is really unfriendly, even for an american ... seems like "freedom of speech" leads to being free of manners. if this is a church, if she is a priest, then she is a bad one and should be fired.
Actually you make a valid observation
This is not a typical American Church it is a cult
Many Americans have a friendly disposition - not to be confused with genuine kindness.
They unironically had alot of Chemistry. They were kind of cute together.
She kept forgetting to be pissed at him lol
His beard is wise. "We'll always have Paris..." I actually like this lady. She is a true believer of her religion but those waves of doubt during the interview were priceless. I predict she blows the church in six months and makes a video with WBM and Tory.
CMO5569 I kind of like her too. But she's totally brainwashed. I'd love to see Tory Christman connect to her. I think they'd be friends, if Tory weren't an SP.
2024 and she’s still in and now she’s mean. She’s got her TRs so lined up she’s a complete zombie robot now.
I am a member of the Church of Scientology. My particular group is called Friendly And Good Scientologists, of F.A.G.S. for short, and we believe in giving Scientology a good name. We really are a friendly and inviting org and we welcome all to join us.
Well I am a member of the Church of God, You might have heard of his son Jesus.
Yeah and bleed you dry of money. It's nothing but a cult who makes women get abortions and makes ppl disconnect from their own families if a person decides its not for them. They get paranoid of ppl leave. They harass them. Make up lies about them. What church does that. Sends ppl to the hole for bad behaviour. They barely feed ppl. Unless you are a celebrity then you are treated like a slave. This is nothing but a money making scheme. Hubbard was a lunatic
@CH1CK3NxSALAD I can't believe after 3 years no one picked up on your comment properly lol "fags" I got it don't worry aha
I find it hilarious that a Scientology exec is feeling harassed and saying its wrong when actual harrassment is the first thing that they do to dissenters and ex memevers.
They wouldn't know about pictures on the internet, their Church restricts their access to it