Scientology: The Story of Kate
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2014
- 1/20/2001
Astra Woodcraft joined Scientology's Sea Org as a young teen. In "The Story of Kate," Astra details the pressure that was brought to bear on her to abort her baby when it was discovered that she was pregnant. Astra went on to be one of the founders of Ex-Scientology Kids.
www.exscientologykids.com - Krátké a kreslené filmy
What a strong,articulated, intelligent and empathic woman. I bet she is a great mother
articulate.
Seriously. She's beautiful. I would love to have her as a mom lol.
@@watchgoose Both articulated and articulate, actually.
Also, she seems so patient with her child. Child already gives off a 'well-rounded kid' vibe.
Laura Carías agreed! So beautiful mother and daughter glad she got out I hope they’re doing great.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how Astra held that GIANT SLEEPING TODDLER in her arms for AN HOUR while talking about something so hard and vulnerable, is there anything more powerful than that?
Powerful mama 💪🌷💪🌷
No wonder mama's have such beautiful strong arms🥰
@@zrtopics2418 truth!
Sign of an excellent parent
AureaGaily moms 💪🏼 😍 i always thought being a mom couldn’t be that hard and laughed at moms who called it a job. I was a hardcore drug addicted escort for many years and last April 26, 2019 I was arrested on a warrant and went to jail. That night the nurse told me I was pregnant. I slammed my forehead on her desk and bawled my eyes out. I had no idea. My son is 4 months old
Today! I’m sober still and happier than ever ☺️
Does this woman sound in any way unstable? Because that is what Scientology has been saying about her. Keep your head up Astra! I think you are amazing!
Thats exactly what the Democrats do and Scientology is an integral part of that party.
@@soniag4516 take your meds and go find your tinfoil hat.
Sonia G
I live in downtown Clearwater. I am not a Scientologist. They are a pyramid scheme, to say the least. I think you’d be very surprised about the truth of your democrat comment.
She sounds unstable in the manner you might expect of any ex-cult member, but towards the ends of the interview she starts sounding more rational.
@@soniag4516 whoaaa.....do you realize that most people who have written anything about this cult has pointed out how conservative it is???
I dont believe this cult can be closely aligned with or compared to any political party.....but it has been deemed conservative, given their rigid beliefs about the LGTBQ community.....and many other things.
I have to assume you have not.
Funny thing how people just blindly believe everything they choose to hear. Kinda like.....hm....Scientologist. lol
I escaped a cult with my Mom when I was 12. We had to break a window and climb out of a padlocked camper in the middle of the night and with one garbage bag of clothes and belongings and walk to a gas station 5 miles away where she called my father who came and got us. It was such a horrible existence. Things 24 yrs. later I still can barley talk about and one thing in particular that I still cry about sometimes. The beatings and the rigid horrible rules and the ritualistic insanity and cruelty, punishments, indoctrination, and fear are something that people who have not survived a cult just can’t understand. It’s beyond the comprehension of a person with an average lived existence to even grasp. I cannot tell you how much the FEAR keeps people prisoner but then the fear is ultimately what makes people leave. And I’m telling you, SCIENTOLOGY IS A CULT💯. Abusive, punishing, shackling, brainwashing, coercion, dogmatic persecution, no individual decision making, no say in your own life, no way of leaving only escaping, and then not without losing everyone you love and leaving everything behind. AFRAID EVERY SECOND OF YOUR LIFE THAT YOU WILL DO SOMETHING WRONG THAT RESULTS IN PUNISHMENTS BY THE PEOPLE WATCHING YOU. ALWAYS WATCHING YOU. And even if you did nothing wrong, still getting physically punished and used and abused. That, as I know from experience, IS A CULT. The government needs to step in and burn the cult of Scientology to the ground.
The government gets paid for this I’m sue and most are in the cult !
@@brendawolszleger4895 Amen to that Thank you Jesus Hallelujah 😊
Im so sorry you went through that i thank God you were able to escape. No one knows what you went through it sounds horrible to say the least ? I pray to God that you are doing well today an thank you for sharing your story. Hopefully it might help others be able to try and get away. God bless you.
I'm so happy you were able to escape. Hope you are living well. Many blessings from Texas. ♥️
Disco inferno
this was such a great interview mostly because Astra was allowed to speak without many interruptions. but the best was watching the baby twirl that hair into falling asleep. even as she drifted off the hand was still instinctively trying for one last twirl. how wonderful that they will always have this video of that precious moment.
My almost-4yo still holds onto a mole on my collarbone as he drifts
Lovely comment. That is wonderful that you picked up on that small detail, truly beautiful. Thank you @cautionTosser.
😍 Love the comment! 💛💙💜💚❤💘💋
Astra .. so very proud of you .. so happy you escaped this cult !!❤️
I find the kid annoying, someone should have taken her away
The way her mother treated her is appalling.
I'm happy to see that she did what is right for her baby and herself.
And married at 15? WTF?
Her husband the college grad was older, she was probably a DEVICE/PRIZE/SEMEN COLLECTION system for him. He sounds like a loser.
Catherine Leary rape and abuse hides behind religions.
Yeah, Gerry Lee married a thirteen year old.
Right! imagine a mother telling her daughter to abort her grandchild, possibly her first grandchild. Its insane!
Sounds like me.
She is such a levelheaded young woman. I'm proud of the tough decisions she had to make and kept her daughter's wellbeing above all else.
That little one's fortunate to have such a strong, loving family who is willing to do the tough stuff just for her. I wish them health & happiness!
You mean strong loving mother.
Her family was brainwashed
Mother told her to get an abortion when she.wanted the baby.Familly sounds bat shot crazy.. wow horrible organization.
The interviewee's mother....GAG!
That lil one would be having an awful life if not for the bravery of her mom💗
I think OP meant her family as in Astra, Zoey and their father
If you are an adult and you are in some organization that tells you what you can do or can't do, run! Nobody has the right to rule your life.
That goes for individuals telling you what to do also.
If you guys believe this story from 2001 (or any like it) I've got some swamp land to sell. Seriously you believe this? If you want to truth, go to www.scientology.tv/ Scientology has helped millions of people. I suggest you all go to a Church yourself & ask questions, read L. Ron Hubbard book, not waste your time on lies like this.....
@@lisapezzella522 scientology is dying
Lisa Pezzella Hubbard was a science FICTION writer. His book is PURE FICTION.
Better flee your country then. Every country has laws that tell us what we can and can't do. Scientology just adds much more, and puts a lot more effort into ensuring you follow them.
Thank you for choosing life Astra. You are a great Mom.
I still can't believe how much scientology gets away with!!!
Lisa Endress It's not pedophilia, it's not murder, it's better than any other religion out there. I'm not scientologist.
Your so very wrong
+hfvkhnml it is both of those. They cover it up.
hfvkhnml, You ARE a Scientologist and/or worship the celebrities that belong to the cult known as Co$.
@@076663837 What!! You're nuts
Let me say this...I once worked for a man who was a practicing Scientologist. He was weird. And I have nothing against weird people. We're all weird in some way. But this fellow brought "weird" up to a whole new level I had never seen before. One day his wife, a very lovely intelligent woman, came up to me and told me that when they first married he was the most loving and dedicated husband on the planet. Then he found Scientology. She told me the change was incredible. Gone was the man she married. In his place was someone she did not recognize. Had never met before. She told me that even though they share the same house, the same bedroom, it is like she is living alone. She was on the brink of tears because she had lost her husband. And the worst part was she did not know how to get him back. That was one of the saddest conversations I have ever had with another human.
It’s abuse. They want to isolate you, just like an avusuve controlling husband/wife. You can’t read or watch media, you can’t have contact with anyone who is not a Scientologist, you can’t tell them anything about what you read, studies whatever. The whole point is Scientology must be your entire world and anything that can influence you otherwise or challenge you otherwise needs to be eliminated. Oh and let’s not forget not only do you need to work for filling you need to pretty much give them your entire paycheck… Similar to those people that had a picture of their child on the fridge thinking That for the cost of a cup of coffee a day, they are giving some child the opportunity to keep living. And yet you have intelligent adults not realizing how many millions of people have that same picture on their fridge. Mind control, guilt, etc.
That happened to my parent-in-laws. They joined this cult after they retired, they gave this church all their retirement checks, and signed a million year contract for cheap labor and long days.
When they escaped, they called us from a pay phone in a one minute phone call, telling us they were going into hiding for at least five years, so they wouldn’t be killed. That was in the 1980s. For 5 years we did not know where they were. They’ve passed away now of old age.
This cult has not changed much.
religions are cults and they poison everything.Yes,a sad story indeed,poor lady.
and poor man too because he doesn't realise how he has been brainwashed and relinquished all control over his life.Sad.
@@rozycantsay3587 that's right;shame on them for damaging peoples self-esteem and being such controlling fascists! i can imagine the poor people that think they have joined something good that is going to save humanity and then the moment they realise they are in a prison of mind control.
She sounds like she just got out of prison and is now in the witness protection program.
Lots of Scientologists DO get tracked down after they leave and have their lives ruined. Especially if they go to the press or the government.
@@fozziebean Been there but Jesus christ set me free and gave me courage and strength, I wasn't even a member just visited that Synagogue of Satan.
It sounds just like that! My god, this cult is one of the worst I've ever heard about.
137 thumbs down? Obviously, 137 Scientologists viewed this video. 🙄
Brave, intelligent woman! Kate has a good family who will bring her up in a safe, loving environment. ❤️
When I first started watching you tube videos, I thought I was supposed to hit the thumb based on how I felt about the topic... It could be that people hit the thumbs down because it doesn't feel right hitting the thumbs up...
I don't know why they get away with the stuff they do they must have bought a lot of government off especially around Clearwater and you're right only an idiot or Scientologist would give this interview a thumbs down I think she's great and a wonderful interview she's going to be a good mother too
Astra although sweet had signed a contract with her employer then she decided to lie to them about her leaving rather than work with them lie to them about her pregnancy and even get pregnant to force them to get rid of them, her brother wanted her to leave amicably that’s was his last ditch effort to straighten her out so she did not have to lie but be honest and route out according to policy
You are absolutely correct.
Add up the “thumbs ups” in the reply’s. Good to see there are good people who understand what this young woman has endured. A super survivor. Shame on SCIENTOLOGY.
Astra is so intelligent and articulate. More than anyone whose story of leaving the (non)Church of Scientology that I have heard she is able to clearly and comprehensively bring the listener into life inside the Sea Org. Thanks, Astra, for telling your truth.
randall williams ..hahahaaaaaaaaa
Linda Clement af
@Demetrius LaShawn is that supposed to be a compliment? That is totally inappropriate and uncalled for. Posted two years ago, so benefit of the doubt pre-#MeToo you didn't know any better than to sexually harass a cult-survivor in the comments section as though it was at all relevent to the discussion. Plus, what @H No said lmbo
@@coppersense999 Some people are just depraved degenrates and this one fits the bill.
No wonder Katie Holmes recruited her attorney father to help her make super secret plans to leave. I knew at the time that she took all the steps battered spouses are advised to take.
She is an incredible young lady. I hope she and her daughter are doing well!!!
My son used to do exactly what Kate did to Astra, playing with her hair then falling asleep. My son would play with my hair or earring then doze off. I can honestly say it is the most precious thing to have your baby relax into sleepy time like this while you literally carry on with conversation as Astra did.
It is amazing. I envy mothers.
@@cristianm7097 No need. These women are crazy inside. Behind closed doors they're crazy.
I wish that Leah Remini had interviewed her as well. Such a decent young woman with a tragic story reflecting the cruelty of Scientology.
I think this woman left scientology way before Leah Remini.
This interview was almost 20 years ago...
Who would 👎this video. Astra is so unique and genuine. There are 100's of stories that are so disturbing.
They possibly meant “down with Scientology.” 👎🏽
Scientologists told to give it thumbs down.
@@elftails that's exactly what they disliked about the video. Stupid emojis & people who look to deep into them.
Scientologists would probably dislike this video...
I think some people don't realize you should like or dislike the quality of the video if you valued/enjoyed watching it. Like/dislike is not whether or not you approve of the topic or story in the video. You can "like" appreciate, find value in this video even though you don't approve of the absolutely insane, terrifying, evil, abusive, brainwashing, cult of Scientology.
She wouldn’t make a good scientologist anyway, she seems very bright and aware of herself.
you never know. even the brightest people can get caught up in such organisations - some of their teachings draw people in for a long time before they become disillusioned.
How the hell would you know what this woman is or isn't capable of?
@@poncerodriguez3179 I think she is saying that this woman could never be a part of this cult because she isn't a follower, which she clearly isn't.
That's the thing with Scientology: Most of the members ARE bright people. One doesn't need to be unintelligent to fall victim to them. Being stupid or bright has nothing to do with psychological manipulation, deprogramming, and gaslighting.
HAHA
Good thing Katie Holmes got her daughter away from this madness.
the question is, why did she marry T. C.?
@@franmorrison1080 I feel like it was probably arranged
Fran Morrison she married Cruise for fame and for $$$$$.
Rose Harvey it's never good for a daughter to be taken from her father.
@@gigbymystupidity Oh? You would rather the child be brought up by a sociopath than not be with the father? What about pedophilic sex offenders? Should their kids remain with them because "they need their father"?
Children need people who care. Doesn't matter whether they share dna or not.
Scientology is about as bad a place to grow up in as it gets. Listen to the girl in the video.
EXPOSE SCIENTOLOGY !!!!!
Our German government does not recognize Scientology as a religion; rather, it as an abusive business masquerading as a religion and profed that it pursues political goals that conflict with the values enshrined in the German constitution." we learned from the Nazi doctrine ..this isn't a religion, just a money-spinning cult/scam.
That's what Leah Remini has been trying to do with the tv series.
UMYN/AMEN‼️
Look at that happy baby
lovely to see isn't it? :) bless them.
The baby tells us just how close mother and daughter are. Absolutely divine love.
I wish she never dropped the child support, she deserves to be financially supported and I mostly want those scumbags to pay.
yes the child deserves by law to be supported until the age of 18.
I agree. But I think she got to that point where she didn't want anything to do with them.
If all the atrocities ordered by the cult leader are true, why is the state not interfering?
@@mariajensen8990Because there are no criminal charges against the church that I am aware of, Leah Remini has spoken alot about this on her show, she did go to the police about David Miscaviage wife being missing and didn't get anywhere since there is a lot of corruption in the LAPD. There are countless stories about the horrific treatment of the church and their leaders
@@jackselle4607 David Miscavage needs to go to Prison for a LONG time! the entire con about calling this cult a church is based on tax evasion. There might a few law teams out there who manage to contact some people who escape the cult and are now brave enough to sue David Miscavage for their lost childhood. The judgement needs to be that all the children who did lose their childhood are sharing the cult's fortune - after expenses to the state and the legal teams' service fees have been subtracted. It would be wise to isolate David Miscavage as he might recruit new members to join another cult as soon as he has served his 40 years in jail
The interviewer is a great listener and she has a beautiful smile
I'm so glad you and your Kate escaped and are happy, stay strong, things WILL get better and easier
This is not a religion, its a business
Not a business it's a quasi Shadow Govt
It’s a CULT
@@rxtf exsact big power over the poeple..its grosss
EVERYTHING in America is a business. Come to think of it, the same applies in most countries, but in America it has greater $$ potential.
It’s very similar to slavery through share cropping . Not to mention brain washing , kidnapping , unlawful arrests and detainment !
Your absolutely correct, Scientology is a business. In fact it gives Al Capone respectability!
David Miscavage and Tom Cruise are an odd pair.
David wants to be Tom Cruise.
Tom wants to be David Miscavage.
I'd say they should get a room but they probably have. SMH
Scott Riggleman I’m sure they have for a long time.. that’s why Katie left.
Nana Berry omg true
Nana Berry you are spot on correct in your observation. Both pathetic beings. I for one will not watch any movie with TC OR JT.
Aline Skibunny me too
They practically tried to kill this girl.
They did the same to me.
This woman is very smart and level-headed.....she's a good mother.
Knowing God = wisdom / she reflects God’s love as a mother to her little girl. Thank you for sharing. He walks with you. You Are not alone.
I really like Astra. She's one of the few stories I've heard of someone fighting back while still attached to Scientology. Smart girl.
Travolta knows exactly what's going on in there. IMO.
Can't see how he couldn't. It's pretty obvious from certain photos that have come to light that he's at the very least bi, and homosexuality is a huge no-no in Scientology (Hubbard's son was gay and if you look into what happened with him, it's an incredibly sad story), yet he gives them so much money he can get away with a lot. He also gets a bunch of work done by the Sea Org. So does Tom Cruise. I can't imagine being as close to Miscavige as they both are and not knowing what's going on.
Just makes me think of how brave Leah Remini is, and how brave all the others are who speak out against Scientology. It takes major guts to do what they do.
@@coralaisly Travolta KNOWS his ex PR and friend told him what she was GOING THROUGH while she was pregnant and on their 'prison detail' RPF and he told her not to LET them treat her like that and when she found her baby in the nursery had been badly neglected she left and HE STAYED IN!!!
Tom Cruise the P.O.S (Piece Of Shit) got his cars, bikes, plane hangers, houses and apartments all decked out by SLAVE LABOUR from young Sea Org's and didn't even give them a thank you let alone any payment!!!
Travolta has let David MISCARRIAGE use his private jet to SNATCH and SCARE and SCAM back people who have left or in the CULT's terminology 'Blown' so even though he may seem the more 'sane' compared to #TomWackoCruise he's still a BIG problem where targeted innocent victims are concerned!!!
David Dwarfenfuhrer Miscavage is the number 1 problem and a sadistic, meglomaniacal, hypocritical, lying, egotistical, narcissistic, scamming ass who should be just thrown in prison and let rot!
@@MissWoman1 I saw all this in various documentaries, disgusting! I've never watched a movie with them in it again unless it was at friends houses on tv and stuff, not going to pay though.
@@MissWoman1 so true. I can't even stomach to watch any of these movies these celebrities are in.
Is that why Travolta can’t admit he’s gay?
I'm amazed at how soft and gentle she has been, after all she's been through. Most people would have grown a grudge or have become very bitter, she hasn't.
It would be amazing to hear a follow up interview about the context she has with her mother and other family will in sciorg and how Kate took the message when she asked about her dad.
Im glad she got out with her beautiful baby, Her dad is a great guy to help her
+ifnotguilty stahl If you watch all the interviews, including his, you will see what a great dad he is. He didn't stop fighting until he got his daughters to safety.
Your right but he shouldn't have to..hope she gets a backbone and sues the shit out of that dead beat...and makes him pay
With everything going on in the world today it blows my mind that right under our noses this is happening in the UNITED STATES of AMERICA 🇺🇸!!! This is evil! These poor families for generations now are so messed up! So sad!!
there is a lot going on in the U.S. of A. that is suspect!!!
Yes, I agree with you!
Unfortunately it's going on all over the world.
For a long time.
This is just the tip of the iceberg
at first I thought this girl was weak, stupid. but really she so smart, brave and resilient, always acting in the best interest of her child even when it would mean enduring further personal hardship.
+Sara Romoff what made you think she was weak and stupid?
+thedelta88 see below
true meaning of parenthood right there;i admire her :)
If all the atrocities ordered by the cult leader are true, why is the state not interfering?
@@mariajensen8990 Those in the govt (California politicians) are financed by Scientology via thier various Hollyweed members
Send them a bill for your FREE labor. 🤔
ikr!
She ought to SUE them for unpaid wages, torts, etc.
The problem is the sea org gives them thousands of dollars in courses while their in the sea org so if you quit you owe the sea org all that money
@@River_wylde if you do a course at your job if you quit do you have to pay them back for all the courses you did?
Muls 95 in this crazy cult you do and the same for jobs that pay for your schooling then you quit before youve “put your time in “
You can tell, that she´s a really good person.
There she sleeps, free from care... not knowing she was spared a life of slavery, by her amazing mother.
A life of slavery, mind control and hurting and robbing other people.
This is so sweet with Astra holding beautiful baby Kate as she drifts off to sleep....abortions are bad enough but being forced with mandatory ones is criminal! God bless you and all the help you are now doing for the cause.
You missed the point. She got pregnant on purpose so she could get out. Many people get pregnant not on purpose and don’t have the means to support another human. All the while, we have nearly 8 billion people on this planet. Open your eyes to what’s going on around you I beg you... pleaseee..
abortions are not for other people who know nothing of the circumstances to judge.
I am so impressed by you Astra. In spite of all the brainwashing and feeling ill you stayed strong in your resolve to protect the life with in you though scared and under enormous pressure. You were so courageous and wise. I also loved how at ease you were being interviewed as your daughter wiggled about. God bless you, your daughter, father and sister.
She has such a serene personality, beautiful lady her story needs to get out there.
Any group that separates families is not a religion it is a cult. Glad you broke away.
It makes me absolutely sick to think about the amount of people this “church” has killed for trying to escape or expose them.
What?! Animals do have a spirit.
Everything has a spirit.
How does these people get tax free status, they are not a religious. This is a cult
Why would religious places get tax free anyway???
They're all cults. None of them should be tax exempt.
They got their tax free status by threatening the high ups of the IRS.
Powerful, high level government "friends"
Same way Joel Osteen does. The richest evangelist in the world.
Don’t pay them back one dime !!!!
What a strong person and awesome young mother. She made the right decision and I hope she and her family will live a very happy life.
That little girl is a scene stealer!!! Too cute
Ive heard so many heartbreaking scientology stories. Who knows if this cult will ever end because of there vast wealth. A mother telling her daughter 2 abort crazy. However, no 1 shud under estimate mind control
You must live in the Bay area or LA just saying
This sounds like living in a oppressive and dictatorship country. It’s hard to believe that this is happening in the developed countries. Wow, you wouldn’t believe it unless you heard it.
Freedom and liberty can also bring out the most hateful weird gross horrendous human depravity.
Thank you for sharing this! I nearly fell into the con of Scientology, thank you for speaking out and protecting so many others.
She's so calm and collected,
Went through so much yet recovered.
What a horrible experience.
I hope Astra and her beautiful baby are still doing okay.
this video is 20 years old. I wonder how Astra and Kate are doing now?
There’s a profile on fb with one picture of Astra and her daughter years later and both look happy and beautiful. She is so strong and brave to get out. I can’t imagine how much it took to do it. I wish her all the best in life. 😘
This is why I no longer will watch Tom Cruise movies ever again!
I cant even look at him.
Tom Cruise has been deceived just like the rest of them. And keep this in mind....People like Astra, Leah Remini, and Mike Rinder were all once just as furtive believers in Scientology as Tom Cruise is. Hopefully Tom Cruise will one day realize the truth. But you have to imagine how difficult it would be, especially for someone like Tom Cruise. Look at what he's been taught to believe, that Scientology would one day give him this massive supernatural power over his life and the route it takes. If there is anyone who would believe that these supernatural powers are actually possible, it would be Tom Cruise. He's mega rich. Millions of fans adore him. He is one of the biggest movie stars on the planet. Almost everything he does turns to gold. You wanna talk about having your beliefs seemingly validated. Now imagine that if Tom was to believe these nasty "rumors" about Scientology and possibly leave his "religion", he might very well lose all the good things in his life as a result. Tom has a lot of incentive for continuing to believe the way he does. (Btw, I'm simply speaking from Tom's perspective. I personally don't believe any of the bullshit Scientology spews out. Scientology is a business, and a corrupt one at that. Nothing more.)
Kudos to the father, Astra, and Zoey; I’ve watched videos of the dad telling his family’s story - from his marriage to his wife and their activities in Scientology, having 3 kids and leaving Scientology, then his wife going back in and eventually dragging the family in. He got out, helped Astra and Kate get out, then they helped Zoey leave. It’s sad that the mother, son/brother, and grandmother will likely never leave the CoS and never see them again. But that’s how the CoS does: stresses loyalty to Scientology and families are routinely broken up over this. So good for those who’ve left and I Woodall of you all well!
Wow. This is filmed in 2001... Kate must be 19-20 now. I am wondering how they’re doing now.
Wow ! That baby is my baby’s age and she is in college! Oh I see the baby is Kate?!
czcams.com/video/p8keSjFGFug/video.html This is from 2012
@@mollymcdonald1949 Right on, thanks for that.
@@sky.the.infinite You're welcome!
It looks like she went to college to major in Math according to an article from 2016.
I thought Mormonism (that I escaped from) was controlling with guilt, fear and shame. Scientology has child slave camps and coerced abortions. Mormonism has coerced adoption. My friend was raped and wanted to keep her child. The LDS heavily pressed on her to adopt out the baby into an “Eternal, temple sealed family.” She refused. My friend married a year later and went on to have 10 more children. The one conceived in rape is just as loved as all the rest.
I’m glad this woman didn’t let a “religion” force her to kill her baby.
Kat Bos that is not at all what the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is like. Don’t you ever compare them to Scientology. Good grief!
Kathy Price Lol, I was in the Mormon cult 44 years. And, my in laws were in Scientology. I think I have a right to draw parallels.
Kathy Price Did you have to do the motions of cutting your throat open and abdomen open in the temple, if you revealed what was said. Terrified and played along, so you could get out of there alive. Or, are you one of those who don’t believe that the church used to be very, very dark before they white washed their history. I knew Mormons who went into hiding to avoid that cult. Just like my in laws did when they left Scientology.
@itsmyluckyday11 it's your lucky day indeed, that modern medicine invented birth control. 10 kids is what happens without it! Which if you want a big family and your body is strong enough, is good for them. But I imagine it takes a toll physically. Then again, I can't imagine the ROI spiritually, socially, mentally. Out of ten kids, odds are good at least one of them makes it big, buys you a house. Oh and loves you, yada yada. jk.
she sounds like a very good person, kind and compassionate
Ashtra's courage is respectfully noted. Thank you!!
Nicole Kidman was no fool.
Watching this makes me feel so f**king lucky!!! I hope when Kate grows up she gets to see this video and see how strong and caring her mother, aunt and Grandfather are!
I'm also relieved to hear Astra's father has stood by her, I have an awesome Dad who has ALWAYS been there for me so it's good to hear there are still some Dad's out there that live up to the name.
I also hope that Astra's realises that a mother who makes you feel guilty about NOT aborting your child - her GRANDCHILD FFS!!! - is not really a truly caring mother and obviously DOESN'T care about her own daughter's feelings or welfare and Astra and Kate DESERVE a REAL mother and Grandmother and the mother Astra has DOESN'T deserve her or any granddaughter!!! Hearing about what Astra's mother said to her and about her makes me nauseated and irate!!🤮🤮🤮🤬🤬🤬 As for Kate and what to tell her about her father....the TRUTH because if she finds out she's been lied to it will cause damage between mother and daughter and even though the truth hurts for a while it will make Kate not only stronger but thankful for the REAL FAMILY she has and not fall for any BS later in life - if it arises!
The #ExScientologyKidsFoundation is a great idea and keeping finger's crossed that this will help UNdo alot of this CULT's extremely damaging indoctrination and give people the support they need to start over!🤞🤞🤞🤞
Wow! What a good father. God BLESS this family.
I am appalled at this . My heart breaks for these children and lost souls. I pray one day This cult crumbles to the ground. I commend Kate for her bravery against the in humane BULLIES
Yeah you don't realise how messed you are until you talk about it to someone
I wonder if this is why Tom Cruise allegedly haven't seen his daughter...
They separate families and pit one agaainst another like communists
Very brave girl. Good fortune, little one.
Please tell your child the truth at a level which she can understand.
Truth sets us free--I agree. When my children asked me about thier dad I told them he was not willing to take care of them and wanted another lifestyle and left it at that. They were between the ages of 4-9. Now he is circling around them to have a relationship with y son who is 32 years old after 26 years of complete absence and ZERO child support.
That baby is now in hers 20s as this video is from 2001
Awesome interview. Thank you for sharing.
The thing that concerns me is that these abuses always escalate!
I'm so glad you got out. Please loose that guilt trip.
What a blessed little girl to have such a wonderful mother.
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That baby reminds me so much of my son. Fighting sleep but needing to touch mommy, you can tell she’s soothed by her mother’s voice. I’m so glad she got herself and her baby out.
Has anyone else here in this discussion ever been to a Scientology "meeting" to meet the members, in hopes that you can be recruited? Tell your story. I was invited to a New Years Eve event in Kitchener, Ontario one year. By the time my friend (a hard core Scientologist and weirdo after she joined), and I left, I was in a state of -- well, I can't really describe it -- I was numb, literally stunned, overwhelmed and distressed. I felt it not only emotionally, psychologically, but physically too. I'd even go so far as to say I felt slightly hypnotized. At one point, I thought I was going to be sick to my stomach. It was deeply disturbing to see. Through it all of course, being who I am, (made of strong stuff,) I was able to remain detached and watch the followers objectively and watch their behaviors from a distance, so to speak. I was able to keep my brain walled off from the brainwashing their movie was intended to achieve. The film I refer to was a kind of celebratory-promotional-reinforcing kind of thing. The imagery was wild and fast, the volume was intolerably loud, and the propaganda against the world at large was hostile, paranoid, and psychopathic. It truly was just like a science fiction movie or a dystopian, Armageddon type of world view. I was uncomfortable beyond words watching this unfold. The members' gazes were fixed on the screen, while now and then loudly applauding and whooping to some remark made about "the ORGS" and the evil-doings of pharmaceutical companies, politicians, law-makers, medicine, and I think even education took a hit. Their enthusiasm was fanatical and manic. It took about a week to get the experience off my mind, it was that troubling to me. Luckily for me, I'm a born skeptic and I am not easily swayed by anyone else's thinking, so I didn't fall victim to it. My ego doesn't need it. My needs for "something" to follow are low, since I don't buy into any kind of religion, not for any reason. I'm satisfied with myself and my own pursuits in this life. For LOTS of reasons I reject religion of any kind since I believe that human beings can have a "relationship" with or rather, "regard" for the greatness of life without the need of an intermediary to "get you there". Where would that be, anyway? I simply believe that we can achieve wisdom, learning and goodness by living with good morals and ethics. And we can learn those things on our own. No magic, no potions, no "blessings", no rituals, no congregations. I'm not seeking some magical transformation, imagining myself and the world imbued with stardust and angel breath. Just the here and the now. Imagine no religion. Once upon a time there was none, and early humans figured it out. We can too.
It blows my mind how so many people can be controlled the way scientologist, Jehovah's Witness, Mormons etc. are.
Hearing the stories enrages me.
Mormons that belong to Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are not in a cult. The FLDS is. The are the Fundamentalist LDS cult
Amazing girl. God bless you and your family.
This young woman is so brilliant and strong!!! Cheers to you Astra!
Just the fact that the people in Scientology were telling that woman
to get an abortion should have been a clue they are "off the wall."
Another incredible interview she is so intelligent and articulate and what a beautiful baby she has. She was so brave and mature considering how young she was 💜
The celebrities “worship” at the “Celebrity Centre International” where they are separated from the commoners and protected from the truth.
Mark you are one of the bravest men I've seen on You Tube. So glad you got elected to Clearwater committee, We need more people like you.
She is very patient mother. The baby keep play with her hair and she is so calm♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Bless her, I hope things really go well for her and her baby, and that the cult stays away from them.
SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN
That girl is a lady xx brilliant mother The way she played with her hair then fell asleep😊
What a beautiful true mother this is, so strong and so together, and with the heart in the absolutely right place, such a lucky and beautiful little girl. Best wishes to Kate and her mum and all the hearts full of love that support them.
baby is about 18 now!
Wow, what a stronge and eloquet lady. The child is lucky to have her for a mother.
There is no way that freeloader bill is enforceable. There is no informed consent at the right time to make it so. Someone with money should apply for a court declaration it's not enforceable so everyone can use that precedent to be sure theirs are written off.
She was lucky the little girl fell asleep. Most of us would not have got a word in edgeways with a 2 year old on our knee after about 5 minutes when they get bored.
Wow when you have a hold someone's mind its incredible the things you make people do.
Wow. Bravery and love, loss and hope. Thanks for sharing the story.
I remember visiting Washington DC as a college student and some Scientology people stopped me and asked me to complete a survey so I did and then they wanted me to go around the corner to their "church" but they wouldn't tell me what kind of church it was. They held me there against my will for quite a while. I was able to get out and run from them but it was very scary. I didn't know they were Scientologist, they never identified themselves but I saw it on the building. It was one of the scariest experiences I've ever had. Why would anyone be attracted to this cult?
Some people are very weak & so needy that the tiniest bit of attention from anyone or any group (especially a sick, sorry bunch of manipulators like the warped Scientologists) is like water to a thirsty soul who's been lost in a burning desert.
@@carolpeskin7078 What is the attraction for celebrities do you think?
When people say Scientology is like all other religions it makes me angry - I've been watching these videos and it is amazing to me but they are the worst!! RLH was one sick SOB but Miscavage is worse! They need to be stopped. It must be a powerful experience, some of these people who make it out still believe what they learned there that's one thing that confuses me, I don't understand how they can believe that crap.
The same way Christians believe The Bible. It's really no different.
***** I guess if I am an Atheist troll then you are a Christian troll, right?
How is it different? Christianity is based on a book, just like Scientology. The only difference is that Scientologist's actually know who wrote their book. As far as your examples of Atheist rulers who did bad things goes.. Their motivations were not religious, they were political. It wouldn't matter, though, because for your 2 examples of Atheistic wrong-doing, there are a million that could be brought up regarding things done in the name of religion.
You have been brain-washed into thinking that Atheism is a bad thing. I know because I was once like you. If you would read your Bible you would see it for what it is; a monstrosity.
Your example of North Korea is a poor one being as though they have little to no crime rate, and though I do not agree with their dictatorship (nor do any other Atheists that I know), they do live peacefully. It's not like their leader is murdering people every day.
It sounds like you are generalizing all Atheists into an evil categorey. I know that's not your fault, by the way. If you would take the time to get to know some of us you would see that we are not evil, not do we want to take over the world. We are also not a 'cult' because Atheism is not a religion. Believe it or not, Atheists are more giving than most Christians.
Anyway, as I said before, believing in Scientology is no different than believing in the Bible. It's just not.
***** I have to disagree with you. Those doing bad things in the name of religion are not breaking commandments. They are following the laws of their 'book', like any real Christian would do. Stoning women to death in the middle east for ridiculous reasons is, in fact, in that horrible book they worship, as it is, to some extent, in yours.
I do not admire Kim Jong Un I simply stated that the crime rate over there is pretty low, while here we have people bombing abortion clinics and murdering doctors, in the name of religion.
Atheists don't believe that the universe 'just happened'. There is EVIDENCE supporting the Big Bang. Scientists don't know how it happened, yet, but that is no reason to fill the void with an imaginary friend. Do some research for yourself. Weigh the evidence. Ask yourself, is it more likely that the EVIDENCE is right or that this book that was written thousands of years ago, by who knows, is? Anyone that believes a magical man made the universe is delusional.
There are tons of stories that pre-date the Bible with nearly identical stories, why doesn't anyone believe that those books are true? Because they're not, that's why.
There are some pretty horrible religious people in this world, but am I judging you for what they have done? No. It's funny that you are the so-called Christian, yet you judge me based on your knowledge of people who died years ago. You, sir, have proved MY point.
+KaptKan1 Athiests aren't a unified group, so you can't really lump any atheist together based on lack of religion. I have nothing in common with Stalin- whereas if you are sitting in the same church with another person, hearing the same lectures, and internalizing the same values.
@@erickaleeane3384 scientology is absolutely different from Christianity. Come on.
Mormon church says the same thing: “only reason people want to leave is because they’ve sinned, or want to sin.”
Cults are not very original, they all use the same control tactics.
NO!!! The Mormon church says NO SUCH THING!!!
You are misinformed.
Ridiculous comparison. Individuals choose to leave for many reasons. It is true that some people leave beacuse they find the moral standards too rigid but no one is coerced with these harsh tactics or shunned for their choice regardless of their motivation for leaving. I have family members in and out of the church. We all love each other and have as much contact with each other as we wish. That is a mighty wide brush you are swiping around!
No, they don't say that. Voice of experience
Mormonism is a false religion. Only Jesus Christ is God and Saviour. Salvation is thru faith in Jesus Christ alone.
I my goodness just listening to her story. my heart was racing with fear as she was going through boarding to plane how her brother was awful. trying to intimidate her to turn back. thank God for her lovely child. I pray she will find true inner peace.
I’m so proud of how determined u became. You are one brave woman. I pray people wise up and stop giving all of their money to such a negative force that rips families apart. It’s so so sad
I couldn't finish listening to it , it was making me sick .. The main problem being how brainwashed the people are and how ridiculous the protocol is . Its insane .. God help the human race ...
I know *exactly* how secure that toddler feels playing with moms hair,, because I did that too! 💕
Wow, thank you for sharing your story. You are a beautiful, strong person and Kate is lucky to have a mother like you looking out for her. So happy you have your Dad and sister as well. Take good care of yourself.
What a lucky little girl to have a mother like this one. God bless them