Calendar ordered. Another straight forward informative video. I'm getting the R600 fitted early 2022 together with a Racing Line coolant underhose too. Wishing you and all subscribers a Happy New Year.
Would that be easier? It's really hard to get it under the coolant hose as it is, plus it's easier to screw it down when the base is mounted securely to the car.
@@volkswizard yeah if you lift the coolant hose slightly and slide the whole R600 in from left to right it is actually alot easier, done this many times on my old car and saves alot of time with screwing everything together too, the stock intake system comes off just as easy without having to take that apart as it is in 2 sections.
Surely all the BHP the car can produce is stored within the perimeters of the ECU, without a tune up the air box is really a decorative piece. The ECU will only take in the Air Fuel Ratio mixture that it was programmed with from factor until it’s changed An air box won’t trick that surely
Modern ECUs are a lot more dynamic than that. They try and maintain the best fuel/air ratio (stoichiometric ratio) but the actual amount of air is constantly variable so if you can get more in, more fuel will be provided and you will get more performance. On a cold damp day the car is getting all the air it can get with or without R600, but on a hot day, the R600 will allow a greater density to be ingested and reduce the performance loss caused by high intake air temperatures leading to the timing being retarded as happened to me on track in July. Obviously a remap will demand more fuel and more air and that's when the R600 comes into its own but still nice to have without one.
That was true in the old days with carbs and then mechanical fuel injection. However, modern ECUs are powerful computers that will adapt within given parameters in their closed loop system, which includes the catalytic converter and knock sensors. If you add an uprated turbo, airbox and free-flow exhaust downpipe you will need a bespoke remap of the fuel, ignition and boost pressure curves to take full advantage of the new hardware, which will then be way beyond the factory parameters. A bespoke remap is when it all comes together and the magic happens!
7.5 GTI Performance with R600, coolant reroute pipe, turbo elbow & inlet pipe & APR ECU & TCU stage 1 remap. You can definitely hear the difference the R600 makes. You just need to drive it a bit more enthusiastically haha. Great video Andrew
Where did you mount the secondary air hose? The stock air box had a nipple type that you plugged the secondary air hose onto. I have a MK8 and have the Racingline air intake. But have no clue where to plug the secondary air hose into.
Got my calendar and love it. Great video - looks an easy but effective upgrade for a MK 8 GTI owner. Not sure if you are running super unleaded petrol in your car, Andrew. If not, have a look at Mannol Benzin Ester Additive to counter the effects of 10% ethanol and increase power.
Thanks Dog bite, glad you like it. Glad you also liked the video. I nearly always run Tesco 99 Momentum as it's only a bit dearer and seems to go further. I've got an A2 FSI too which needs super unleaded but isn't necessarily going to be able to get it so I will check that out, thank you.
i found that when i had a cupra 280, the drain wouldnt go onto the r600 intake properly and no matter what orientation i put it, it just didn't wanna go on.
Thanks ! And thanks re the guide, so many DIY guides miss out the crucial bits and pieces that you really need to know! I've worked on cars for years so when the lid doesn't screw down properly the first time, it's worth a mention along with how to sort it so people don't think this is the way it should fit together.
Personally, R600 it’s a waist of money. Let me explain people. You can’t get hp increased from this especially on a turbocharged engine. That’s why is called turbocharged because it will induct air as much as needed. Instead you what you can get from R600 it’s increase pedal throttle and that’s only because the rpm will stay higher as you force air in am the air sensor plays his part. If you really want to do that you can cut the other side of your mk7 normal intake (the blocked part), take the winter grid off and change your normal filter with a Revo sport filter and there you are, you’ll have a “R600” at a cost of fraction.
I have the “budget R600” fitted to my mk7.5 GTI…. Standard oem air box, removed snow guard, added GTE oem intake cover plate, added k&M filter…. Voilà….And it works well
I have one fitted to my 7.5 R and I love it, would be interested to see the hose upgraded as well Wizard! Maybe the turbo inlet as well would be good :)
Just wondering what you find with the R600 - I've a 7.5 R (estate) myself & fancy an upgrade like this. Is it something "notifiable" to your insurance as a modification? Also slightly concerned that it would invalidate the VW warranty (mine is only a 20 plate). Might wait until it's out of warranty, as I'm planning to keep it indefinitely
@@andrewmcivor42 Much better sound from the engine, a lovely whoosh from the turbo, I'm going to do the inlet pipe and get a silicone hose on there as well to complete the chain if you like.
@@andrewmcivor42 Forgot to answer the insurance question, I'm not going to say anything, it's not like a remap where you would be gaining a decent bit of HP.
at 16.10 into the video you showed a close up of the racing line aftermarket product, to me it looked like there was a LOT of rough, POORLY FINISHED PLASTICS, am i correct damon me old mucker ?
@@volkswizard oh ok, there must be a fault on your photographic equipment then, because at 16. 10, poor quality finished plastics ARE shown ? i`m referring to where the BOTTOM of the TOP part meets the TOP of the BOTTOM part, if you go fullscreen on the video you can clearly see rough edges, this is what i`m referring to, anyway, by the sound of it , your not "that impressed" by the product, but i value your opinion, i`m glad to see that you purchased this item with your own funds , that way you can give an honest, unbiased opinion, well done, a lot of reviewers except to many frebies in this day and age and give UNTRUE reviews.
good video, as always Andrew. helped me get mine on today without any difficulty...however, the drain pipe doesn't seem to have anything to click it in place. hopefully, not using it will not be a problem?
I really enjoy these videos you make of ‘car maintenance’ - informative and clear/easy to follow. You can see where Racingline spend their money on R and D to make products like this as it looks OEM quality. Are you going to get it re mapped at some point in the future? Or a Dyno run?
Just remove it when it's due a service or get the service done elsewhere as subject to complying with certain terms and conditions, that won't affect warranty either (contrary to popular belief)
More good content thanks Andrew. I can certainly hear a bit more "whoosh" post-R600 on my TCR and also *think* throttle response is a little improved. I am with you on it being easier to do final assembly in situ rather than off the car. Did you find out why Racingline don't sell a one piece inlet hose (rather than separate hose and turbo elbow)? PS - I just bought your last-but-one calendar. Move quickly to avoid disappointment people!!
Great video on fave channel - bhp drop with heat really noticeable in warmer climes and on a hot uk track I assume as well - looks OEM thankfully and fitting procedure looked reasonable for those that don’t know their T25s from their sockets - such as myself :)
Yes indeed Malcolm, would love to do a before and after on a hot track day but would take a lot of effort I guess and nobody would be that interested to watch the video apart from us nerds. Car felt very slow in the summer as represented by its lap time, part of this will be the engine but tyres and brakes also affected. Hopefully next year's timed event at Bedford Autodrome will be cooler (but please not wet!)
Love the r600 kit supports big power and looks oem but I have foam filters,have a spare at hand so I clean and change over a bit more maintenance but love it!!!!
Great practical mod, but I was wondering if that's a modification you'd have to tell your insurance about? I was thinking of swapping the standard VW paper filter for an ITG filter (less radical than the R600), for an E888 engine? I remember you doing a video about direct replacement ITG filters before (might have been your R8, but can't remember now).
I have always wondered why the drainage pipe off the filter box os blanked 🤔 it's the same on mk6 and mk7....you also looked at it with a look of why is that blanked 🤷
Hi Andrew. Quick question; did you consider replacing the stock plastic pipes from the R600 to the turbo unit? Received the calendar which looks great. Much thanks. T.
Great video. I'd love to have to install one if I had a faster car, not sure it would have the same effect on my passat estate. But i was thinking about getting it remapped what do you think
Remaps are OK on the right car, just buy from a reputable source and tell your insurer. Make sure your car is in tip top condition mechanically as it will increase wear and tear, never let oil go beyond 10k miles. Or just buy a faster car :)
Hey bro, so I have 2022 gti mk8 and I was wondering about put a catback and a intake. Would that necessarily void my warranty ? I’m very scared since this is my first car and I’m paying for everything 😂
Does that really do something then?! My Clubsport S was the only recent car not come with it, just a bit worried about the heat on the underside of the bonnet as it could damage the paint as it gets really hot down there, what do you think?
This is the latest version from TPS. There are better but they can be a bit tight on bucket type seats; tps.trade/products/cleaning-valeting/reusable-seat-cover-zgb00qseatcvr
Yes afraid so, over ordered last year so had to play it safe this year. Might order a small batch if demand is there, keep an eye on volkswizard.co.uk 👍
Don't start! They say it's like that for pedestrian safety should you run someone over but Audi's cover has a badge and colour on it. Definitely an opportunity for someone to make a dress up kit.
R600 has undoubtedly improved throttle response on my TCR. Increased air volume can also mitigate performance loss in hot conditions (although more likely to be realised on track than in normal driving, admittedly). Caveat - within ECU parameters of course, remap needed to maximise potential.
@@markrennie6659 Seen many, many dyno graphs of before and after intakes. At the very best they give like 3-4 whp in upper rev range. Total waste of money. A remap can bump 40-50 whp and 70-90 wtq. Why even bother spending 400-800$ on these stupid intakes? If you like the noise it makes sure but don’t come with this power gains and throttle response nonsense please
@@markrennie6659 you can use an ODB11 and change the throttle response from normal what VW Use to Linear what Audi Use. I did it to my Golf R, Dead easy
damon me old OLD mate, you seem to have "forgotten" any mention of price for this product ??? now i know this must be due to loss of memory, after all, why would someone review a "racing line" product and not mention how sensibly they`re priced ? after all, a product like this would SURELY be around the £200-£300 price mark, wood it knot 🤨🤨🤨🤨
It's not an advert so I leave it up to people to look it up if they want to. It's around the £400 mark I think, I got trade discount on it (because I am actually trade). Whether that's good value or not depends on how much performance it adds I guess unless you just like the look of it (many do).
Calendar ordered. Another straight forward informative video. I'm getting the R600 fitted early 2022 together with a Racing Line coolant underhose too.
Wishing you and all subscribers a Happy New Year.
Thanks Tony, calendar ready to post today, thanks ever so much. Hope you enjoy the R600 (and hose) and have a great New Year yourself 🥳
great informative video but in future if you want to make things slightly easier its best to put the R600 together before fitting.
Would that be easier? It's really hard to get it under the coolant hose as it is, plus it's easier to screw it down when the base is mounted securely to the car.
@@volkswizard yeah if you lift the coolant hose slightly and slide the whole R600 in from left to right it is actually alot easier, done this many times on my old car and saves alot of time with screwing everything together too, the stock intake system comes off just as easy without having to take that apart as it is in 2 sections.
Surely all the BHP the car can produce is stored within the perimeters of the ECU, without a tune up the air box is really a decorative piece.
The ECU will only take in the Air Fuel Ratio mixture that it was programmed with from factor until it’s changed
An air box won’t trick that surely
Modern ECUs are a lot more dynamic than that. They try and maintain the best fuel/air ratio (stoichiometric ratio) but the actual amount of air is constantly variable so if you can get more in, more fuel will be provided and you will get more performance. On a cold damp day the car is getting all the air it can get with or without R600, but on a hot day, the R600 will allow a greater density to be ingested and reduce the performance loss caused by high intake air temperatures leading to the timing being retarded as happened to me on track in July.
Obviously a remap will demand more fuel and more air and that's when the R600 comes into its own but still nice to have without one.
@@volkswizard
Great points and great video 👍
That was true in the old days with carbs and then mechanical fuel injection. However, modern ECUs are powerful computers that will adapt within given parameters in their closed loop system, which includes the catalytic converter and knock sensors. If you add an uprated turbo, airbox and free-flow exhaust downpipe you will need a bespoke remap of the fuel, ignition and boost pressure curves to take full advantage of the new hardware, which will then be way beyond the factory parameters. A bespoke remap is when it all comes together and the magic happens!
Are you going to put your car on the dyno to see if there's any power increase?
7.5 GTI Performance with R600, coolant reroute pipe, turbo elbow & inlet pipe & APR ECU & TCU stage 1 remap.
You can definitely hear the difference the R600 makes. You just need to drive it a bit more enthusiastically haha. Great video Andrew
Hey Anthony, I reckon a map and those other bits would do the trick for sure but not while under warranty for me sadly.
I have the same car with stage 1 but standard intake, not that fussed about sound but was it any faster after the R600/inlet pipe?
@@ap6584 You need better induction to make more power - even if just a few bhp. Breathing is vital to cars too! 😁
Do the R600 EVO model fit to the MK7 plattform without issues? I know it is slighty different...
Where did you mount the secondary air hose? The stock air box had a nipple type that you plugged the secondary air hose onto. I have a MK8 and have the Racingline air intake. But have no clue where to plug the secondary air hose into.
Got my calendar and love it. Great video - looks an easy but effective upgrade for a MK 8 GTI owner. Not sure if you are running super unleaded petrol in your car, Andrew. If not, have a look at Mannol Benzin Ester Additive to counter the effects of 10% ethanol and increase power.
Thanks Dog bite, glad you like it. Glad you also liked the video. I nearly always run Tesco 99 Momentum as it's only a bit dearer and seems to go further. I've got an A2 FSI too which needs super unleaded but isn't necessarily going to be able to get it so I will check that out, thank you.
So what was the power difference then between stock and the r600?
i found that when i had a cupra 280, the drain wouldnt go onto the r600 intake properly and no matter what orientation i put it, it just didn't wanna go on.
Mine went on but didn't feel secure, will feedback to Racingline
I had a Neuspeed open intake on my mk5 gti. Hated the noise 😂
I can imagine it gets a bit too much!
Loving the plate on the car. I'm back again love your how to guide, always made simple and very informative
Thanks ! And thanks re the guide, so many DIY guides miss out the crucial bits and pieces that you really need to know! I've worked on cars for years so when the lid doesn't screw down properly the first time, it's worth a mention along with how to sort it so people don't think this is the way it should fit together.
Personally, R600 it’s a waist of money. Let me explain people. You can’t get hp increased from this especially on a turbocharged engine. That’s why is called turbocharged because it will induct air as much as needed. Instead you what you can get from R600 it’s increase pedal throttle and that’s only because the rpm will stay higher as you force air in am the air sensor plays his part. If you really want to do that you can cut the other side of your mk7 normal intake (the blocked part), take the winter grid off and change your normal filter with a Revo sport filter and there you are, you’ll have a “R600” at a cost of fraction.
I have the “budget R600” fitted to my mk7.5 GTI…. Standard oem air box, removed snow guard, added GTE oem intake cover plate, added k&M filter…. Voilà….And it works well
I have one fitted to my 7.5 R and I love it, would be interested to see the hose upgraded as well Wizard! Maybe the turbo inlet as well would be good :)
Just wondering what you find with the R600 - I've a 7.5 R (estate) myself & fancy an upgrade like this. Is it something "notifiable" to your insurance as a modification? Also slightly concerned that it would invalidate the VW warranty (mine is only a 20 plate). Might wait until it's out of warranty, as I'm planning to keep it indefinitely
@@andrewmcivor42 Much better sound from the engine, a lovely whoosh from the turbo, I'm going to do the inlet pipe and get a silicone hose on there as well to complete the chain if you like.
@@AdeJohnson sounds good! I'm planning to keep my R Estate indefinitely, so will probably do stuff like this then. Got a few "sensible" plans....
@@andrewmcivor42 Forgot to answer the insurance question, I'm not going to say anything, it's not like a remap where you would be gaining a decent bit of HP.
@@AdeJohnson fair enough! I did the same when I put a performance filter into my old Vauxhall Cavalier!
What about the secondary airfilter. Do I need it with the R600 kit ?
Before and after dynos or it’ll just a pie in the sky
great video! would this affect your warranty? (I am commenting while watching so you may have covered this!)
Always a pleasure to watch Andrew.
All the best for 2022!
Great video
Looks tidy
You will have to change that plain VW engine cover now 🤛
I was going to say, Racingline need to sort that out with some sort of high quality kit.
at 16.10 into the video you showed a close up of the racing line aftermarket product, to me it looked like there was a LOT of rough, POORLY FINISHED PLASTICS, am i correct damon me old mucker ?
Not at all, OEM quality. Don't believe what I say, it's very highly regarded for its fit and finish. It's been around for 7 years now.
@@volkswizard oh ok, there must be a fault on your photographic equipment then, because at 16. 10, poor quality finished plastics ARE shown ? i`m referring to where the BOTTOM of the TOP part meets the TOP of the BOTTOM part, if you go fullscreen on the video you can clearly see rough edges, this is what i`m referring to, anyway, by the sound of it , your not "that impressed" by the product, but i value your opinion, i`m glad to see that you purchased this item with your own funds , that way you can give an honest, unbiased opinion, well done, a lot of reviewers except to many frebies in this day and age and give UNTRUE reviews.
Nothing a small rub with some wet and dry won't fix. 😀 or even a little rub backwards with a Stanley blade.
good video, as always Andrew. helped me get mine on today without any difficulty...however, the drain pipe doesn't seem to have anything to click it in place. hopefully, not using it will not be a problem?
I really enjoy these videos you make of ‘car maintenance’ - informative and clear/easy to follow. You can see where Racingline spend their money on R and D to make products like this as it looks OEM quality. Are you going to get it re mapped at some point in the future? Or a Dyno run?
How would this work with regards to VW Warranty ?
Just remove it when it's due a service or get the service done elsewhere as subject to complying with certain terms and conditions, that won't affect warranty either (contrary to popular belief)
More good content thanks Andrew. I can certainly hear a bit more "whoosh" post-R600 on my TCR and also *think* throttle response is a little improved. I am with you on it being easier to do final assembly in situ rather than off the car. Did you find out why Racingline don't sell a one piece inlet hose (rather than separate hose and turbo elbow)?
PS - I just bought your last-but-one calendar. Move quickly to avoid disappointment people!!
Great video on fave channel - bhp drop with heat really noticeable in warmer climes and on a hot uk track I assume as well - looks OEM thankfully and fitting procedure looked reasonable for those that don’t know their T25s from their sockets - such as myself :)
Yes indeed Malcolm, would love to do a before and after on a hot track day but would take a lot of effort I guess and nobody would be that interested to watch the video apart from us nerds. Car felt very slow in the summer as represented by its lap time, part of this will be the engine but tyres and brakes also affected. Hopefully next year's timed event at Bedford Autodrome will be cooler (but please not wet!)
Good stuff Andrew 👍. I take it if you fitted the turbo hose and turbo elbow it would make more of a difference? Power wise ?
Love the r600 kit supports big power and looks oem but I have foam filters,have a spare at hand so I clean and change over a bit more maintenance but love it!!!!
That's a great idea to have a spare!
@@volkswizard I always keep one on stand by because the foam has more maintenance but even with the cotton one I’d do the same !
Great practical mod, but I was wondering if that's a modification you'd have to tell your insurance about?
I was thinking of swapping the standard VW paper filter for an ITG filter (less radical than the R600), for an E888 engine? I remember you doing a video about direct replacement ITG filters before (might have been your R8, but can't remember now).
Just bought the Callander
Looks pretty nice 👌👍
Thanks! Hope you enjoy it!
I have always wondered why the drainage pipe off the filter box os blanked 🤔 it's the same on mk6 and mk7....you also looked at it with a look of why is that blanked 🤷
Calendar just ordered great video most helpful.
Thanks David, glad you enjoyed the vid and hope you like the calendar, it's packed and ready to post today 👍
Hi Andrew. Quick question; did you consider replacing the stock plastic pipes from the R600 to the turbo unit?
Received the calendar which looks great. Much thanks. T.
Great video. I'd love to have to install one if I had a faster car, not sure it would have the same effect on my passat estate. But i was thinking about getting it remapped what do you think
Remap. Turn it into a sleeper.
Remaps are OK on the right car, just buy from a reputable source and tell your insurer. Make sure your car is in tip top condition mechanically as it will increase wear and tear, never let oil go beyond 10k miles. Or just buy a faster car :)
What a great Xmas present who bought you that! 🎁
Andrew did you get an appreciable response increase?
Hey bro, so I have 2022 gti mk8 and I was wondering about put a catback and a intake. Would that necessarily void my warranty ? I’m very scared since this is my first car and I’m paying for everything 😂
No Racingline underhose for the MK8?? I seriously urge people to get an underhose from Racingline if you’re going to install the R600
I think it's available as not sure it's different for Mk8. I didn't ask as I didn't want to mess with the cooling system being a new car.
@@volkswizard Piece of cake, although you do need to be quick with the hose swap to minimise coolant escape.
Is that lift music like some kind of warning alert on the MK8 when you start modifying it? 😆😆
it plays automatically when you go for warranty and the service advisor asks "is it modified"
You might not want to because it's a new car but removing the sound deadening from the bonnet will make it a lot louder
Does that really do something then?! My Clubsport S was the only recent car not come with it, just a bit worried about the heat on the underside of the bonnet as it could damage the paint as it gets really hot down there, what do you think?
@@volkswizard never heard that before you can try asking on forums etc
should have gotten a turbo muffler delete and elbow with the pipe to the intake and you would get the noise the cupra 300 had
The clubsport is even more expensive now here in belgium, 50.000 euro... Thats why you will not see one here lol
Hope mine will be in Belgium in 2022 at some point 👍
What seat cover do you use?
This is the latest version from TPS. There are better but they can be a bit tight on bucket type seats;
tps.trade/products/cleaning-valeting/reusable-seat-cover-zgb00qseatcvr
FIRST modification should be removing the flammable engine cover.
No calendars left? ☹️
Yes afraid so, over ordered last year so had to play it safe this year. Might order a small batch if demand is there, keep an eye on volkswizard.co.uk 👍
@@volkswizard Thanks hope you do a reorder
high-performance intake should work with ECU upgrade like stage 1 or 2， intake itself make no sense
Maybe Stage 1 or 2 would be too fast for UK roads 70 mph is the limit and getting to that speed quicker may take away some of the enjoyment?
you`d have thought that VW would have stuck a nice BIG FAT "G T I" logo on the engine cover, just to spice it up a bit ???
Don't start! They say it's like that for pedestrian safety should you run someone over but Audi's cover has a badge and colour on it. Definitely an opportunity for someone to make a dress up kit.
@@volkswizard maybe they think the GTI badge will act like a "branding iron" and emblazon the poor pedestrian with a GTI shape injury 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Waste of money. More sound yes but performance no
R600 has undoubtedly improved throttle response on my TCR. Increased air volume can also mitigate performance loss in hot conditions (although more likely to be realised on track than in normal driving, admittedly). Caveat - within ECU parameters of course, remap needed to maximise potential.
@@markrennie6659 Seen many, many dyno graphs of before and after intakes. At the very best they give like 3-4 whp in upper rev range. Total waste of money. A remap can bump 40-50 whp and 70-90 wtq. Why even bother spending 400-800$ on these stupid intakes? If you like the noise it makes sure but don’t come with this power gains and throttle response nonsense please
Totally agree the r400 looks stock under the bonnet. Save your money
@@markrennie6659 you can use an ODB11 and change the throttle response from normal what VW Use to Linear what Audi Use. I did it to my Golf R, Dead easy
@@thirteen2342 I actually like the OEM+ look. Plus there's a carbon fibre version if you want something different.
damon me old OLD mate, you seem to have "forgotten" any mention of price for this product ??? now i know this must be due to loss of memory, after all, why would someone review a "racing line" product and not mention how sensibly they`re priced ? after all, a product like this would SURELY be around the £200-£300 price mark, wood it knot 🤨🤨🤨🤨
It's not an advert so I leave it up to people to look it up if they want to. It's around the £400 mark I think, I got trade discount on it (because I am actually trade). Whether that's good value or not depends on how much performance it adds I guess unless you just like the look of it (many do).
@@volkswizard so it`s £400 retail and you got a discount, is that correct ?
“Put your thumbs in and feel your way around” so it should be easy enough for an osteopath then 👍
You'd ace it for sure.