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Metal Detecting: Nokta/Makro Simplex+ Vs XP Orx
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- čas přidán 15. 10. 2019
- In this Metal Detecting video I bury 9 target targets at random depths and even throw a couple of nails in the holes with the targets and see how each machine performs with depth and target seperation. I use the Simplex+ as well as the XP Orx on their factory settings with very minor "tweeking" and film it all, its quite surprising of the results.
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I own both machines. I am impressed with the depth of the 9" coil, especially when compared to the 11" of the Simplex. I love both machines. Great relic machines, both.
Yes ❤❤❤
I own the orx. There actually are 2 open slots for customized programs. Its user 5 and user 6.
Thanks for sharing this comparison. Personally I liked the XP over the Simplex but then the Simplex being waterproof is a huge plus.
Agreed my friend water test is coming soon
Good test! I bought myself an ORX this past Christmas and am looking forward to getting out with it.
That is a good test . I would like to see the Equinox in the same test .
I dont own an equinox but I do know there are a couple of videos out there with a comparison against the simplex. Quite impressive might I add, Thanks for the watch and comment, GL and HH
Excellent video with a lot of helpful info. Thanks for the time and effort it took to make the video.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Nice test. Out of curiosity I would love to see this test in park mode on a couple of those targets with iron in the hole which is a faster mode but less depth than field mode which I believe you referred to as relic mode. Hunter GT done a few test on this machine in different modes and it appeared that the recovery was very fast in park mode which should fare well in seperation in iron.
I will do some more testing, thanks for watching
John B it wouldn’t hit them in park on the simplex it’s a good few inches shallower on that setting
the XP ORX with the x35 coil would have much more depth, I go for the XP
Good comparison I think the smaller coil on the ORX definitely helped but to be totally fair for the money the Simplex is a great machine.
Absolutely great little machine for the money and its water proof thats always a plus
I’m glad I picked up the orx. With this test. It got hits the simplex 🤘🏻
Awesome! Wish you alot of success with it
Simplex sure wins here. Worth the money. Waterproof and has a flashlight. Won't find another machine with so much options in that price range
Yep
I got the simplex but I'm considering getting the orx. Is it a worth upgrade?
Nice video. As i'm sure you know, deeper targets often have no VDI on the XP machines so it's all about the tone. I thought the ORX just edged it on the tests, but I am very impressed with the Simplex. ATB MMMD
Yea it just did skrit by, but I truley wanted to see if a cheaper machine could hold its own and it did for the most part. I am still fairly impressed with the machine, thanks for watching GL and HH
It's nice to see someone actually bury the targets, two good machines, thanks for the video...!
Thank you for watching GL and HH
Thanks man for showing us. awesome video !!!
Don't understand why you didn't use the field mode on the Simplex+, it is the deepest mode.
The deepest mode in every detector is all metall
With the new update the new relic mode is deeper but still not as deep as field mode.
A great demonstration. I have a Simplex and a Garrett. I love the Simplex and tolerate the Garrett. I think the numerous comparisons of units costing 3-6 times as much are testaments to the Simplex. Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but, I find the tones that certain machines use to greatly influence my willingness to use them. If you don’t like the tones, you’re not going to like the machine.
Agreed
I like how you ran your test. I may have to pick up an ORX. It definitely has some great ears.
They are great machines Scott, you cant go wrong with an XP.
Great video I just discovered you're channel ..seen your video from roan mountain iam from Elizabethton TN and do a lot of hunting in jc and Elizabethton...I use the simplex it's been a very good machine for me I've found a lot of good stuff with it ..iam now subscribed to your channel
there's no doubt the simplex is the best bang for the buck but if you are able to afford the xp I would get it it's lighter faster and as an owner of both and having compared both in the field the xp is my go to detector also there's not many coil options with the simplex thanks for the video
I liked your comparison tests. Orx clearly wins in iron. Would like to see a Simplex/Equinox test...Thank you, Rick
I do not have an equinox unfortunately but will get a friend to do that test
Time to make a comparision Makro Gold Kruzer vs XP ORX especially on gold issue...😊
They're both best selling machines here in Southern Africa.
Love your Test Field, Did not see a ground Balance on either Machine.
As I explained in another comment due to my ground conditions being above the factory GB settings there is no need to GB where I live the soil is simply just not mineralized enough. However I just posted another video in the same test garden with GB and it resulted in no difference in depth. Check it out if you get time, Thanks for watch and comment and good luck to you my friend
Best comparison I've seen yet!!
15:50 I think the machine shows not the nonferrous, nails often have a high tone on the end of the sweep without a nonferrous in the near.
excellent test...thank for the efort mate...greetings from 🇲🇨🇲🇨🇲🇨🙏🙏
Thank you GL and HH on your adventures!
Very nice field tests thanks for sharing. 😎👍👍
Thank you and thanks for watching
Excellent test! Well done! I learned a lot. Thanks for the effort.
Thank you
@@SwampKritter my pleasure
I have a old whites quantum xt machine and looking to replace it what would you buy around 4 to 500$ range somthing waterproof . I coin relic and beach hunt
Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting
The ATmax almost matches the Simplex in features but is more than twice the price. I think that would be a better comparison more so than the ORX.
Noted! I may do another video, thanks for comment and HH
After getting used to the Equinox sounds that Simplex sounds kinda Deus-ey.....
It really does in 3 of the modes - All metal reminds me of a T2 sound. Thanks for the comment and HH
The XPR ORX nailed every single one and that was with the 9" coil! No VDI? You don't always go with VDI's learnt that with the garrett, the sounds were spot on
No you dont always dig off of VDI numbers I learned from a old Naughty IIBA and dug off pings and threshold breaks for years
Neil that’s why u dig on tones not vdi
Hi, thanks for the po video.
Does anyone can say Which machine will be best for coins, the orx or the deus?
Thanks
Depends on the conditions of the site honestly, but both are great machines
Отличный тест! Максимально приближен к реальным условиям.
Thank you, I try to make it as real as possible
@@SwampKritter У тебя, это получается, друг!
Nice one brother I run the orx with the x35 11inch its amazing great little experiment 🤜🤛👍HH and GL MY FRIEND
I agree its a great little machine
I might have missed but you didn't ground ballance. Best wishes from Del Rio Texas.
Great video and comparison test. Can tell you put some real world thought into it. I'm wanting a simplex and was very happy to see it tested on American coins and relics. I'd like to see the other detectors you have available run over these targets too.
Thank you! Glad you see that I am not here to sell the machine I just want real world thought no hype. I will more than likely do another video bc of some of the comments I have gotten. Best of luck my friend and HH
@@SwampKritter I know your not endorsing any brand over the other. Videos like yours help people like me make informed decisions before purchase. Seeing and hearing more detectors swung over multiple targets of varying depth, orientation, and composition is great CZcams bait for a detectorist like me! Thanks!
New subscriber nice field test thank you for sharing! GL&HH!
Thanks for the sub be sure to check out our other videos as well
I´ve both detectors. Thanks from germany.
Both very good machines, thanks for watching
Excellent, thanks for the test. xpr orx did great.
Thank you
Great video, good comparison test 👍
Thank you
I hunt gold with my orx and most of my small gold show no vdi but you can still hear them I would off said the orx hit all of them besides the orx has custom settings
And I also own a simplex which is one of the best coin machines
But out in field the orx easily keep up with a exquinox
Absoululty agree
Great video, been looking at both of these detectors just not sure what I will end up getting
Both are great little machines each with their own pros and cons it all depends on what style of hunting youll be doing and how much you are willing to spend, I wish you the best of luck and hope you find lots of goodies
When did Simplex got a «Relic mode?
Just got my Simplex today.. too bad its winter lol but I enjoyed the video thx so much..
Dont let winter stop you, go out and get it! Hope you enjoy it
Just subbed. Nice video. Well done. Looking to possibly move away from the NOX or have another brand to work with. Looking at ORX. Land hunting in OK. Your thoughts for a good land machine? Thx.
Absolutely the ORX is a great little machine and is cheaper than the deus but doesnt have the tweaking that can be done with the deus. Truth be known I swing my ORX more than my deus, you wont be disappointed with the ORX I can assure you
Thx u. I see there are coil options. Not sure what to go with. I would be going after coins and jewelry. Also hunt water. I use a NOX 800 and whites tdi beach hunter, but would like to dip the orx if I get the chance. Just not sure about the coil selection. Any help is very much appreciated. Have the budget to get the full deus, if orx can’t get wet. Thx again.
Coil option is entirely up to you I would personally recommend either the 9" HF or the 9" X35 for coin hunting you will be able to pick between the trash and iron with the 9" easier than a larger coil. And if you dont have a dealer we are authorized multi line dealers and carry XP as well.
Thanks for sharing. 😃👍
Thanks for watching
Awesome test, I just subscribed’
Thanks for subbing!
Excellent test! Was a bit dissapointed in the Simplex. Yea, I know ' "entry level!"
Watch the next video I think you may change your mind
for the price it is an excellent machine!
I appreciate this video. Thanks
I appreciate the watch and comment! HH and GL
Good comparison but you still dont get enough for the 300.00 differance ,at the end of the day you will find the same with both machines
Good vid. Thanks.
That was a good comparison, I wonder when the new simplex coils are coming.
Thank you and not sure but hopefully soon
I have the simplex great comparison review .
Can someone explain why it has different searching modes if it has only one frequency?
Different modes have different settings, some items may be notched, sens may be different, etc.... Need different programs for different environments, almost every machine on the market has these options
At the end you will get all the trash anyways
You need to put them in plastic bags, the plastic could interfere with the signal like it did with the test with flower pots.
Thanks nice video 👍👍
Thank you for the watch and comment, HH and GL
Wish I could get one here in the USA. They keep pushing the date back on shipping them in. I'm on 4 different waiting lists for the last 4 months.
They are just trying to assure everything is good to go with the machines. Im sure manufacturing millions of machines and making sure everything is good is a very stressful job and one Im glad I don't have. They should be out soon. Best of luck and HH
Thanks Thans Thanks
Just subbed brother 😀👍.. now I am still in an open mind yet I have the ORX and it’s running well .. the simplex is good for the money £400 with headphones vs £730 with headphones ..but I want to see the simplex under the water as it’s one of the main selling points to the machine 😀👍
I have actually done a water test bc I agree with you that is one of the main selling points in my book as well, it will come out very soon so stay tuned. Thanks for the Sub! Best of luck and HH
SwampKritter will watch out for that brother 😀👍.. one of the main reasons o got the ORX was how light it is 👍
@@SwampKritter It's awesome that you wrote a book. congrats. Did it come out ? would you share the title please. thanks
Is the coil on the orx standard or a upgraded coil
Its the standard coil on the ORX. They come standard with either the 9" HF or 9.5" HF
@@SwampKritter Thank You
Good job. Enjoyed it. HNY...
Thanks for watching HNY to you as well
What frequency were you using on the Orx, it makes a hell of a difference.
I honestly don't rememeber what I was using that day
Southern Nation buckle
id like to see them battle it out over small gold
We have plans to do some gold hunting later this year, so that is a very good possibility
Where is ground balance at simplex, how it can work well if You didn't made ground balance?
Ground balancing is a process of canceling out the effects of ground mineralization and letting the detector only read the new targets and not the ground and the target. In a way it is a form of discrimination but in a good way. When you ground balance a detector what you are hoping to do is find the proper balance between the effects of the ground and not be positive or negative of a ground balance.
A positive ground balance setting can cause the minimization to produce a response just like a a good target if set to high. Especially if your sensitivity is set to high along with it. If this happens you can potentially miss good targets being masked by the detector seeing only the mineralization and not the good target.
A to negative ground balance setting can cause the detector to not see the ground minimization and or any new targets. Machine will run more quietly but you will experience a noticeable loss of depth on your detector. Neither of which is good.
Our soil here is between good and bad meaning it has hardly none to a minute amount of mineralization. It is almost the perfect blend, even if i were to GB it would equal the factory tracking GB which is normally high 80's. Bad soil where GB is necessary will generally GB much much lower.
I am not punning any machine, I did not GB either machine bc there was no need!
@@SwampKritter I would be curious to see if it would change something (for good or bad) even if in a minimal way. Especially for the buckle. Thanks for the explanation, still!
@@SwampKritter Sorry, but ground balance is necessairly. If any test You like make and it should be real. Ground blalance set level of ground signal and if it not be corectly detector give not real range.
No GB = no deep targets
Well that is your opinion... cant understand why other machines that were not GB were able to hit deep targets but this one has to be...watch the next video with GB and give me your expert opinion then
Good Video.. Try the Equinox if you get a chance.
I actually would love to but I dont have an equinox, I am going to see if I can borrow one however. Thanks for comment HH
@@SwampKritter I dont have one either I have a ACE.. I won a Simplex off Relic Radio.. Dont know when I will get it with the way things are going with Turkey.
Thats great youll love this machine
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You can customize the ORX. It has 2 savable program slots. User 5 and 6
10-4
at 15:30 gold wedding band & 2 nails ?? what have I missed at 4:24 ?? I'd better go diggin' than wasting my time watching comparisons. lOl
Very niec
Good test!...fair comparison...hh
Thanks
Simplex for the win! Both hit targets the same leaving the deciding factor is price and features. XP ORX $650 non submersible VS Simplex+ $340 submersible. Separation would have needed Simplex set on Park mode.
i lost my prescription glasses at the beach last summer while playing with my son, pulled the XP ORX to look for it but no signal came up to the knee level. i didn't know it was not submersible and was disappointed. thankfully I had an extra pair of glasses which allowed me to drive 3 hours back to home from corpus christi :)
Orx👍
lol
is it true, that the ORX is the double price?
Hello, you do not touch the sensitivity of the simplex, while if I saw you go up the sensitivity of the orx. Thank you from France for your video
Actually I did I turned the sens all the way up on the very first target I tested it on, I started out with the factory sens and then went all the way up. Thanks for the comment, GL and HH
So which equal setting and the most powerful? Because I have the orx and I hesitate to take the simplex and more
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So which equal setting and the most powerful? Because I have the orx and I hesitate to take the simplex and more
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graund balance the nokta next time biiiiggg difrens
No need to ground balance in our soil, as our soil has no mineralization and normally balances at the factory preset of around 88. Thanks for the comment and watching
@@SwampKritter did you do automatic tuning for the gunt before the test? at what soil frequency was test 88 carried out? thx
Are you referring to the orx? It has fast grab and manual GB on the machine, I did not GB either machine bc there is no need for the type of soil that I live in. I believe it was on 14.4 frequency, I did not adjust that either. This was a test of two like machines with no tweeking to see how they compared to one another, in basically the same settings. Thanks for the comment GL and HH
Park 1. And sens max gb makro all see
Xp orx 😁 turkey oky
Lol
I dont care about the vdi numbers
Ok...
ORX was better, with a smaller coil
Thanks
The orx work fantastic only before you check the Best ground balance. You can't turn on and go
Simplex is the muts
lol
It really isn't
Coins covered in plastic not a good idea!!!
Why is that? That is what they are made for