Is Lonzo Ball More Talented Than LaMelo? PG Names All-Talent Starting 5
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A random civilian arguing with PG about basketball is crazy 🤣🤣Paul you need to switch out the 24/7 fitness dude wearing purple
😂😂😂😂
its actually wild PG is a great sport lol I woulda just been like "how you know"
Bro, I think that's PG's homie. . . . . He's basically arguing with his homie.
@@subjectively_objective yea bro he better than me I would’ve been like who tf do you think you are ?😂
@@hl1292 na forsure is but cmon bro if you gon bring your boy on podcast make sure that he’s not a bot
Wanna thank you PG for giving Lonzo his respect. Obviously he’s dealt with a ton of injuries throughout his NBA career but the leap he has taken as player from the Lakers up to his play in Chicago was amazing to see. Zo is still my favorite player, hoping to see him back on the court in the future.
JayRodriguez That white dude lowkey was throwing shade at Lonzo after bigging up LaMelo.
Lonzo >melo
They both good
Word
Hard to take his opinion on this seriously when he really just said Jaylen fucking Brown can handle the ball, he’s known for having the worst handle in the entire league amongst star players, by a landslide. I usually think PG is smart but I’m reconsidering after that one sheesh that’s crazy he would say that. Brown is athletic, not talented.
Guy in the purple hat is really arguing with pg about lonzo balls talent someone that’s played against the guy nba players know
Boy a hater for real 😂😂😂
I was saying the same damn thang smh lol
He comes off arrogant asf all the time and I know he’d never get picked up at the YMCA Rec
The first thing he said was he can’t shoot when he’s the best shooter in the family since he’s worked on his shot…. You can tell he’s stuck on his first 2 yeara
Can’t stand him fr
He needs some dudes who actually know basketball sitting with him😭
agreed i turned this ish off when bro argued with PG on health
Bro pg and patbev need a podcast together
@@goodiegoodiegumdrops facts. add iman shumpert in there. he wasn't as big a player as those two but he's great with podcasts
Lonzo himself said his brother was more talented lol
@@densonjc you ain’t just say pat bev was better than Iman
Bro with that purple hat was saying straight bullshit AD always injured does that mean he don’t have talent ??tf 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
bro talking like he in the NBA
@@subjectively_objective fr he buggin
Avoiding injury and being able to stay on the court is a talent . Having body control and aware of what’s happening on the court is a talent . There is talent in avoiding injury . And his own brother said he is more talented . Just the facts!
@@dallasrutherford nope and I never said that lonzo was more talented than melo but saying that one guy is more talented cause he is less injured is bullshit bro what this shit have to do with being a baller it’s either that you have a bad diet or bad luck Zo don’t play like D Rose or Ja he just unlucky that ain’t about talent. dummy!
@@dallasrutherford that's his brother's OPINION. Not a fact.
"you can't say that"
"why not?"
"look at our boy."
lonzo had mad heads praying on his downfall cuz his pops supported him to the max. you see the difference tho with his teams when he is on the court vs when he's hurt. he might not be the most aggressive scorer but he's a great floor general, plays elite defense, crashes the glass and his jumper is leaps and bounds ahead of what it used to be. hope he can recover cuz he didnt get paid for nothing, he has game
He got hella game. Its why im baffled this white dude is arguing wit PG. its clear as day Zo can literally do anything and everything youd want from a point. He is a bigger guard, can put the ball on the ground, great passer, elite defense, can spot up and shoot off the dribble. Finished around the rim well.
I also feel like the way he played alongside Lebron says a lot too but whatever
I hear you but there are clear arguments to be made that he isn't a complete package. He has no in between game, he has no post ability and is a non threat on middy pull ups. He struggles to draw fouls, struggles to penetrate into the lane in the half court, struggles to finish through contact. There are plenty of holes in his game.
He’s basically a taller but better shooting Rondo or Rubio. If he’s healthy he’s a playoff staring PG
Lonzo is underrated asf imo in terms of team value. He’s the glue for the bulls and this season proved it
Literally was the key for the bulls. We decimated when he went down.
@kharitemple4933 I was looking forward to him and Caruso developing as a 2way backcourt and look at the league right now they would have been killing this year together
Glue is useless if it’s never around, that’s the major problem with him. It seems like he just doesn’t have an NBA body but has the game
Still not the best PG in the league like PG thinks
Truly and hurt when he got hurt
Did I just hear this dude say Lonzo cant shoot? WHAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?! Compared to LaMelo? LaMelo is a 37% 3pt shooter. Lonzo is a 42% shooter. Im a LaMelo fan but the dude sometimes bricks 17 3's to make 4. Of course those 4 look beautiful but come on.. Im with P in the TALENT conversation... in many sports you have dudes that dont take care as much of their body (not saying it's Lonzo's case) and hurt a lot, but their TALENT is incredible.
nah melo a better shooter he just takes stupid shots
Melo shoots more of the dribble, most of lonzos 3s are catch and shoot
37 is not bad dude , Lamelo takes like 10 threes a game and has made more 30 ft 3s than Steph this season while taking less and in way less games lol he has some of the deepest range in the league and it be off the dribble most of the time
@@FTO9797 Im not saying is bad, I put on the 3 there because he said Lonzo cant shoot.
@@ullyssessilverio5923 my point is he doesn’t “brick 17 to make 4” a lot if he’s shooting 38% on some of the deepest range this year and 39 last. Dame lillard career average is 37% from 3 and he one of the best ever
man stop sleeping on Lonzo ball acting like he wasn’t the reason the chicago was tuff last year
purple hat is a casual nba fan clearly
💯
Ball was the motor and point guard who got the Bulls to be a top 3 team until he went down. Bulls were not the same since!
Literally
Didn’t play 23-24 and only played 35 games the season b4 tht only avg 13 5 and 5. Lonzo is no where near a star player in the league
Lonzo just isn’t FLASHY like lamelo. Ppl rlly b sleeping on lonzo
Exactly ppl think flashy means talent. Lonzo is def talented and has some flashy passes. But bc Lamelo got a deeper "bag" he's more talented? That shit is annoying
Lonzo over shai is crazy
@@abdurahmanesse9522 Lonzo will even tell you lamelo is more talented. How is shit annoying lmfao, Ppl mad when others have an opinion. Melo is clearly more talented
@@abdurahmanesse9522 lamelo is literally a walking triple double. He is not afraid of the big moments. Maybe he is not a good on ball defender or clamps as lonzo but he is not bad in defense in general, he can steal the ball and had many deflections. lonzo is the perfect point guard for a championship team who has 2 allstars. While lamelo he is one of the “franchise player” of the team you can build around, MVP caliber esp if he improves his defense.
Lonzo is flashy asf go watch the game were he destroyed the lakers
I really thought no one can stop the Bulls when they were complete up until Zo got injured. Dude took a great work on his jumper and as result, he was soo dependable in threes. Wish he comes back next season.
Not only did the man become a certified sniper, he became the glue guy for the team which just made the team great without him they’re mediocre sadly
If Zo didn’t get injured I really feel like the Bulls could’ve been a legit contender for a few years.
His passing too bro, he’s always been a good facilitator but he was throwing dimes before he got injured.
Lonzo is more of a 3 and D guy who can playmake. He's not a 3 level scorer but he doesnt need to be to be successful
When he said “you can’t say that, look at our boy” I fucken died 😂
And the fact that they talked in like nun happened yoo
Purple hat has never played a game of basketball a day in his life
Never made a team in his life!!
I bet neither of you know the guy on his shirt either
Lonzo is a elite PG he changed the bulls culture had them looking like a championship team before he got hurt
Exactly
Thing I love about Lonzo is his professionalism at such a young age. He is a super confident player, but is all business on the court, and seems more interested in the win than stats. Props to his dad. What a great job he did with his boys.
“Sneaky D” is wild 😂
Crazy lol
I love pg he’s one my favorite players all time but dude really said “I think there’s a talent in staying healthy” infront of someone who is never consistently healthy😂 purple hat should’ve stayed quite for this one
🤣🤣🤣 I was confused when he said that, I was like "what is he talking about?" Hahaha
@@bondinho6114 I also don’t think lamelo is a better shooter then lonzo but ig it can go either way just because melo creates his own shot more lonzo does a lot of catch and shoot but he attempt a good amount of 3s tho and efficient too
Not all injuries are avoidable … for example . Some guys don’t know how to take a charge . Or how to move when someone is taking a charge on them . Lots of injuries can be avoided and some can’t!
It's a matter of definitions. In vernacular American "baskeball-eze", the concept of talent does not include the ability to stay healthy. However, it is possible to change the definition so that when someone says, "He's a talented basketball player" the speaker is factoring in a player's ability to stay healthy. Personally, I think it's better to separate the concept of talent from the concept of being more or less prone to injuries. Former professional basketball player. A.C. Green wasn't very talented at all, but he was one of the least injury-prone NBA basketball players ever (amongst those players who had NBA careers longer than 10 years and played a significant number of minutes).
@@dallasrutherford Just like D Rose, PG significantly contributed to one of his most serious injuries by being reckless. See, "Paul George Gruesome Leg Injury in Team USA Basketball Showcase (HD)" czcams.com/video/qYTA1dRVjnE/video.html. It seems to me that PG's most recent injury will force him to either be a bench player or retire. That's not surprising. After all, he's 33 years old.
Like many others, I predict Ja Morant is on his way to being a mediocre bench player within the next couple/few years due to his reckless style of play. Look at guys who had long and fruitful NBA careers such as Stockton, Malone, Gary Payton Sr, Tony Parker, Tim Duncan, Vince Carter, and Andre Igudola. They all tended to play carefully.
"look at our boy" LMFAOO
Ask the Bulls how talented Lonzo Ball was. There season would’ve been completely different with him healthy in the lineup!
A healthy Lonzo is more beneficial to any NBA team than LaMelo. His intangibles are what the average viewer don’t appreciate about him. There’s a reason why the Bulls struggle so much without him.
Intangibles? Generally, no. It's mostly obvious. Lonzo is much better than LaMelo. Lonzo is a better shooter, has a higher IQ, is a better rebounder, and much, much better defender. The fact that Lonzo is a quiet leader who is easy to play with... yeah, that's an intagible. LaMelo doesn't really have the prospect of being anything more than a below average starting point guard due primarily to to his bad defense. He's fun to watch, but he doesn't play winning basketball.
@@yekutielbenheshel354 it’s definitely his intangibles. He doesn’t have the stats to show that he’s better than Melo but the eye test says he’s astronomically better based off the things that you said.
He never attacks the basket ever. If he did I’d agree.
That's facts. Intangibles is Lonzo's highest rated-stat. Props to the ppl who can recognize intangibles. At the end of the day, that's what separates stat-packers from winners. No shade to Melo though. He's got a great feel for the game too
Who got the Max not lonzo which proves lamelo better always have been the best ball brother
Guy in purple speaking from his wealth of experience eating cheetos and getting tattied
Love the podcast 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Let the hooper (PG13) talk basketball.
I really want lonzo to go to the clippers ngl
Bobcats
Shit him pg and kawhi won’t play in the playoffs
He would be way better with the warriors realistically with how he plays. Been saying on the bench, he could be our Shaun Livingston with a jumper
@@02butta livingston mid range jumper was elite. You must mean 3 point shot
@@russellgeorge433if y’all think we giving up lonzo y’all crazy 😭we waiting until he healthy
Lonzo's always been my PG in 2K coz of his defense.
I completely agree with Paul about Zo. Been saying this about Zo since he was playing college ball. Literally the most balanced PG in the league.
Yeah but he’s absolutely wrong.
There is zero chance Lonzo is more TALENTED than Steph because he can play defense and pass a bit better.
Steph clears in terms of talent by such a wide margin it’s almost disrespectful.
Lonzo can not finish well, and definitely can’t shoot or handle as well. The idea that he is the most talented point guard in the league is so nasty. At a point, results matter.
Paul George just likes players who can hit 3s, play defense, and somewhat shot create. Ingram more talented than LeBron James? LMFAO
@@Vibrant133Steph isn't a true pg
@@byronporter3357okay? Lonzo is a more willing passer. Steph is still a very good passer, he’s just better used off the ball.
lonzo is one of the best defenders at the point guard position in the league, he became a great shooter for the bulls (a lot better than lamelo) and he's an amazing playmaker, lonzo with the ball in the back court in transition is one of the most dangerous positions to be in for the defence
Man he really is and people sleep on him and he can easily score 20-7-7
And one more thing saying “staying healthy is a talent” is ridiculous. Just insane.
😂😂 injuries happen. Its part of sports. Taking care of one's body is more being discipline above all else
lonzo can’t shoot is such a casual take😭😭
If you know the game you know Zo is a great addition to any team. I’ll take him as my PG over Lamelo. People forget before Zo became injured last season; Bulls was 3rd seed I think and he had the highest 3pt% and was on top 3 made that season before he went out also he is top 5 defender when healthy he can guard 1-5 and shown it. Him and Jru Holiday are lock down defenders.
lonzo never even played a full season but if it's him vs melo i agree i would take lonzo as well. but i don't agree lonzo is a great addition to any team because he himself cannot stay healthy whatsoever. his ankles and knees aren't okay
@@bengalsboy_christian he’s made each team better, but I agree people won’t have a chance to have this perspective of Zo because he can’t complete a season.
Lamelo has achieved more in 2 years than Lonzo has achieved his entire career. If you want a role player who can fit into a team take Lonzo. But if you want a superstar potential it’s Lamelo
@@bradleyowusu9589 a fucking ROTY??? That’s all melo got over Zo. Literally Zo is better than Lamelo lol who do you think Melo get his play style from??? Right you
@@bradleyowusu9589 superstars win. Lamelo does not win
i legit subbed because he respects the underrated lonzo. love his game so much
I think it’s talent to not get injured is crazy 😂
I really hope Lonzo makes a comeback and have a similar story to Shaun Livingston. Guy puts effort into his game.
PG giving B.I his flowers is 🔥
Ayyyy PG dem thumbnails got me dead broo😂😂😂
Lonzo is the complete package. Hopefully he gets healthy.
The only thing Lonzo was missing was confidence. He needed to be more aggressive offensively so that he could score more and get more assists. He was too passive. But his defense. Yeah. Ummm, that was really, really good. And he was a very good rebounder too.
Sadly, from what I read, it seems that he might need to miss the entire next season due to his right knee injury. From what I've read, his right knee injury is very serious. Fortunately, modern surgical and rehab techniques are remarkable. Therefore, if he's patient and rehabs properly, I think he could have a very good 2024-2025 season. 25 years ago, a guy with his knee injury might have been forced to retire.
To be a complete package he’d have to be a player who is good at everything, he is nowhere close to that. One of the worst PGs when it comes to putting pressure on the rim. That’s why he’s essentially a SG in half court sets. He is one of the worst PGs in the league being the primary ball handler in half court. He’s a SG. Excellent shooter, one of the best team defenders in the league, great in transition as a playmaker and is intelligent. But clear weaknesses to his game that limit him.
Before his injury he was shooting 42 percent on 7 attempts 🥲😪
EXACTLY AND as a Bulls fan we was 1 n east before his injuries and Curuso...Their defense and scrappy play along with ball movement made them so much better
Valid points!
If Lonzo Ball played most of the 2022-23 season, I do believe Bulls would have been marginally better than Cavaliers and Knicks, but still behind teams like Sixers and Celtics because of their higher volume of 3pt shooting.
Watching Lavine and Derozan play hero ball as well as the Bull's general lack of teamwork, makes me think that the Bulls need a new head coach. Put simply, the Bulls have sufficient talent to make it past the first round of the playoffs, but they generally don't play proper team basketball.
It took the great Michael Jordan about 7 years to realize he needed to stop playing hero ball and instead "play the right way" to increase his chances of winning a championship. It's often very difficult to persuade excellent isolation scorers to pass the ball. It's no secret that ball movement is crucial to winning championships.
It's not just that guys need their touches to get motivated to play hard, but ball movement also tends to wear down the opposition. As the adage goes, "The best defense is a good offense." Grinding down your opposition by consistently making the extra pass to the open man, makes it tough for them to play hard on their offensive end of the court.
Perhaps a new head coach could get that message across to Zach and Deebo. The Bulls had to fire Doug Collins (who regularly encouraged MJ to play hero ball). Collins was recorded saying something like "Give the ball to Michael, and everyone else get out of the way," The Bulls brought in Phil Jackson. Eventually Phil Jackson persuaded MJ to "play the right way."
Damn I really miss Lonzo playing
Imagine healthy lonzo on the clippers 🤦🏾♂️🔥
I like how Jackie kept it gangsta in front of PG lol
1:29 LMAOOOOAOAOAOAO “stay healthy”
BRO IN THE PURPLE HAT got owned once PG said Lonzo was shooting 40% lmao.... Bro literally was going off a narrative and then ran out of things to critique so he went to injuries, pure NBA casual that one.
💯💯💯💯
this PG way of recruiting 😂
You’re right! The Clippers definitely need more injury probed players !
Paul Be Preaching!
Respect for pg just went all the way up
I tell people all the time Ingram is underrated to the media but the players that play against know he’s a problem
Lonzo has said melo is more talented
Facts
thank you paul george for supporting my boy
He sounds like when your a employee and customers come trying to tell you about the menu🤣😂😂
Love PG on the pod but the other two suck, how you gonna argue with one of the most talented players to ever play the game about who he thinks is the most talented
its crazy these two dudes need to respect who's actually in the NBA
Dumb and dumber sitting there like they know something
It's called "I'm white and I say so"
Man, been holding this in for a while now but PG gotta get better co-hosts and not these casuals
PG needs to find someone like "Coach Daniel" czcams.com/channels/o7ttcxRQH9WrDGxxB-QAew.html or "JxmyHighroller" czcams.com/channels/3L9XPe0_FGfRG-CMGtBvFg.html. Perhaps PG should try out a couple of dozen guest hosts until he finds a guy he meshes well with.
PG is essentially suited to be a color commentary announcer; he needs to find at least one play-by-play announcer as a co-host. Generally, that's how it has worked in the business of radio and television sports broadcasting for over half a century. The ex-jocks (retired athletes) have provided the color commentary; whereas, a "professional" announcer has provided the play-by-play (think Howard Cosell, Vin Scully, or Bob Costas).
Guys like Charles Barkley (an intelligent retired athlete who can do hard core analysis) are rare. Usually you end up with a guy like Shaq or Kenny paired with a guy like Ernie. The retired athletes make things fun and "keep it real"; the boring "suit" (Ernie) keeps order and discipline (to prevent the show from "going off the rails" into utter nonsense).
LMAOOOOO look at our boy had me dead gotta be a boy you know since hs or middle school days cuz bro 😂
Fan in the purple hat is wild lol
Why are the co host arguing with Paul George about defense on the actual NBA floor lol. You guys gotta help pg expand his thoughts, no offense but obviously there will be, please let PG cook.
Yeah cause he definitely ain’t cooking on the court
@@pistolpete3199 Avg 20 a game for career 🤔
A person who’s never played basketball at a high level telling an nba player, “he’s wrong” is baffling to me . He came out the rip a pure hater… PG came out listing why he’s better and manz was just wasn’t having it . His argument was injuries !!!?? After his question was about talent … smells like a hater to me ..
But lonzo has said Melo is more talented. Just because you play ball doesn't mean you're automatically right. There's probably alot of players who would disagree with PG
@@sindilacion yeah you’re right in the sense that PG isn’t the only NBA player in the world and just because he says ZO is doesn’t make it fact. I’m sure other pros would disagree or agree. All opinion. Talent can’t really be measured. And can be defined in multiple ways. So I guess it’s a silly debate to have.
Swear the dude in tan head to toe baked outta his mind😂
When Lonzo ball was going to get drafted , I had never seen him play in college, but I was already watching lamelo play in middle school draining half court shots , lamelo was that sensational 😂 which is crazy to see how far he has come , he lived to the hype, I’ll take lamelo
Ant man should be on here lol if we’re talking pure talent
Glad he gave BI love. Wish we kept him over Kuz
I remember when the Lakers were looking at getting AD and they didnt want to give up Kuz but were willing to part with anyone else outside of Bron. I was praying they wouldnt give up BI or zo, and DEFINITELY not both. Yes we got a ring out of the trade but man I wouldve loved to keep brandon ingram. You could see he was gonna be special from the jump, zo didnt end up working out yet but even by the end of his second career game you could see it.
Bruh pelicans wanted lonzo as part of the trade no matter what. Lakers had no choice if they wanted AD
Lonzo defense passing ability and improved shooting would’ve helped Chicago this year.
I wish his cohost had high basketball iq
Think Gelo suffered from playing with his brothers. They both played PG and his handle is not there. 6'4 big killed in HS. Post game doesn't translate to pros
I don't think his skill set was the problem. His decision to steal in China was. If he didn't set himself back, he would have gotten his shine on UCLA and people that would have overhyped him like they did for his other brothers.
Unfortunately he ruined everything the moment he made the news for the wrong reason. You have to be an incredible player, all time great talent to come back from something like that.
@@peteraudu4554 truth to both of you guys statements
Bro fr said “look at our boy” 😭
Ucla Lonzo was a beast. When lonzo is confident in his game he’s hard to stop.
who tf are purple hat.. no one even know you
This dude in the LA hat is a clown, get him outta here!! He's going to tell an elite NBA player what it is??
funny you brung up Brandon undershirt I wear that in every game and been waiting to see someone in the league to rock the plain white to
PG saying "injuries are about work ethic" is the 2nd wildest thing that was said
Homie yelling "He's sneaky D" twice with no pause being said is crazy
Purple hat guy is gay
Get on the damn court and off CZcams 😡
he gotta recover bra damn😂 but fr they coulda actually did something this year if they were heslthy
He ain’t need his leg to be healthy to record a god damn video
@@darqusee8622HE HAS ON NO BRACE NO NOTHING ON WTH YOU MEAN HE CAN PLAY
Pat Bev An PG A Be A Crazy Podcast💯
PG smart af stating he's leaving his team out of it so he doesn't hurt anyone's feelings XD
Lonzo cannot shoot off the dribble. Lonzo struggles finishing at the rim. Lonzo can’t create his own shot. I can go on and on…Lonzo is NOT the most talented point guard LOL
Facts. I respect PG but Lonzo isn’t the most talented point guard in the league. Lonzo isn’t better than tyrese Halliburton.
Melo can’t defend, Melo lazy on Defense, Melo gets picked on in pick and rolls, Melo has terrible shot selection (41% from field) Melo careless with ball. It’s give or take they both have flaws I would rather have the defender that can facilitate and shoot
Ur wrong, Lonzo can do all of those things just not a great level
u dont watch lonzo then
He never said he was the most talented😂 and if you think those things of lonzo you a casual fan
That sneaky D is kinda wild 😂😂😂
Lonzo fr no cap it took him long time to get comfortable but he there now
ALL FACTS PG! PUT RESPECT ON LONZO NAME!!!
Joel is extremely flexible and moving smooth doing fadeovers in the paint
PG looking a little litty. The eyes tell it all lol 😂
Great 5
That’s a tuff starting 5 not gone lie
Paul is right about the defensive thing age has nothing to do it's effort
bro in the purple has nooooo clue what he's talking about I'm so glad pg sees lonzo the same way I do
He brought up health on PG show 😂😂
You can’t say being healthy has nothing to do with the game. It’s a physical limitation. Like you’re performing more than your body is capable of. Sure, there are freak injuries that may be an exception.
Just like being short is a physical limitation, being injury prone is a physical limitation. I don’t think it’s as important of a factor as height, but it’s still an aspect of the game. It’s one of the reasons why Lebron is so great.
Guy in yellow is the ultimate Yes man…. And he’d agree lol
they're talking about talent and purple hat is talking about how he doesn't like the shirt ingram wears lmaoo
damn lonzo needs to link up with bron and ask about how he takes care of his body during offseason
Dallas acting like he playin in the nba the way he wanna argue with Paul 😭😭
We just sliding past the fact bro said "sneaky d" twice 😂
Cmon man talk to em PG 🗣1:30, Jackie n homeboy just be chattin
It dosen't matter about who more talented it's all about who has durability and longevity
A lot of these guys saying ole boy in the purple hat dont know basketball cant even name the guy on his shirt😂
Dude in the purple hat got some damn nerve talking to P about ball like that lmao.
Judging by this video, pg likes dual threats and all around players rather then one way players & I feel like that opinion really reflects HIS game. I respect that a lot. He ain’t gonna pick the player that scores the most, he’s going to pick the players that score the most and can defend with the least weaknesses.
that man said wearing a shirt & playing basketball is weird 💀 you can tell he dont play ball 😂
He ah goofy
That jaylen brown take looking real juicy rn