My Conversation with Redeemed Zoomer

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024

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  • @kemptonbryan
    @kemptonbryan Před rokem +1488

    If it wasn’t for redeemedzoomer I never would have begun going to church.

    • @a2zz-gk197
      @a2zz-gk197 Před rokem +226

      If it wasn’t for RedeemedZoomer I’d never have the idea of converting to Eastern Orthodoxy

    • @kemptonbryan
      @kemptonbryan Před rokem

      @@a2zz-gk197 Similar for me. Tried to find more about orthodoxy from him which led me to Kyle’s video response.

    • @token_5654
      @token_5654 Před rokem +67

      @@a2zz-gk197If it wasn’t for Redeemed Zoomer, I never would have converted to be a Protestant.

    • @tamnickyle
      @tamnickyle Před rokem +99

      if it wasnt for Redeemed Zoomer, i would have gotten away with it

    • @OrthodoxBrethren3
      @OrthodoxBrethren3 Před rokem +5

      Same

  • @yecksd
    @yecksd Před rokem +1110

    ironically enough, Redeemed Zoomer was one of my first introductions into Orthodoxy. may God bless you both!

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +177

      Glory to God!

    • @Kostas_Dikefalaios
      @Kostas_Dikefalaios Před rokem +26

      Hope you intend to study more about the Ancient churches.

    • @yecksd
      @yecksd Před rokem +55

      @@Kostas_Dikefalaios im being Chrismated into the Holy Orthodox Church next month, actually :)

    • @Kostas_Dikefalaios
      @Kostas_Dikefalaios Před rokem +21

      @@yecksd Hallelujah! Welcome brother

    • @a2zz-gk197
      @a2zz-gk197 Před rokem +3

      Same here, amen!

  • @redeemedzoomer6053
    @redeemedzoomer6053 Před rokem +1011

    Had a great time Kyle, would definitely love to do something like this again! Love the funny edits you added as well haha. Just one note for the audience, at 18:12 you show an example of a Presbyterian pastor saying Baptism doesn't save, but it shows that he's a PCA pastor. The PCA notoriously has a semi-Baptist view of the Sacraments. If you want the truly Calvinist view of the Sacraments, don't listen to PCA pastors, read the Scots Confession and Calvin's Geneva Catechism. God bless!

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +282

      Yes! we will def do again in a few months. God bless!

    • @neon8406
      @neon8406 Před rokem +29

      @@OrthodoxKyleLike another comment said, it would be interesting if it was live so people can ask questions.

    • @pedroguimaraes6094
      @pedroguimaraes6094 Před rokem +72

      In fact, it seems dishonest to me to add texts, images and videos trying to refute your position, after the conversation is over. If you did the same thing to him, it would also look like he "lost" the argument. I really couldn't understand this, it's hard to justify. But if you didn't call, then that's okay.

    • @stoievn1519
      @stoievn1519 Před rokem +28

      @@OrthodoxKylejust a recommendation, I think it’s more honest to study the positions of the people you talk with to refute in person then add memes and refutations afterwards

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +36

      @@stoievn1519 I have studied the position of others? "memes and refutations" I add memes in all of my videos.... This was casual conversation.. not bloodsports debate...
      I know many sources: czcams.com/video/44Iy5aCHQiQ/video.html

  • @callmecharlie0498
    @callmecharlie0498 Před 11 měsíci +323

    8:25 "Jesus was clearly not a socialist, he fed people" 💀💀

    • @gfepsh
      @gfepsh Před 7 měsíci +9

      made me laugh too lol

    • @bryanwirthlin4444
      @bryanwirthlin4444 Před 7 měsíci +3

      I'm stealing that.

    • @inactivated101
      @inactivated101 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Lmfao

    • @makuballz6516
      @makuballz6516 Před 6 měsíci

      ☠️

    • @walker1686
      @walker1686 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I don’t get the joke here?? Socialism and feeding people have nothing to do with each other. Where is the problem?

  • @nicholas.ii2
    @nicholas.ii2 Před rokem +269

    These two are the ones that helped me the most. Redeemed zoomer got me into christianity at first and then Kyle got me into Orthodoxy. Seeing these two together is crazy.

  • @zorigjavkhlan2885
    @zorigjavkhlan2885 Před rokem +189

    Never did I think the two men who brought me to Christ would talk it out like this. Truly an interesting conversation. God bless ☦️

  • @tubalcain6874
    @tubalcain6874 Před rokem +365

    I’m an old guy, and later in life, I walked away from evangelical Protestantism and converted to Orthodoxy ☦️.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +43

      Glory to God!

    • @JulienBoeker
      @JulienBoeker Před rokem +18

      @tubalcain6874 I´m catholic and thinking about converting to Orthodoxy. Just started to inform myself about it.

    • @jtplumbing6592
      @jtplumbing6592 Před 10 měsíci +9

      Why wasn't Christ and His word not enough for you? I'm interested in what grounds God didn't cover and why you decided to put your trust in traditions of men and recognize their authority over the authority of Christ and His word.

    • @micoolkidfilms3270
      @micoolkidfilms3270 Před 10 měsíci

      How did u get the sacraments and confession?

    • @Orthodoxology
      @Orthodoxology Před 10 měsíci

      @@JulienBoekerhow’s it going? Update?

  • @ConnorMBanks
    @ConnorMBanks Před rokem +166

    Hey Kyle, another Christian Zoomer here. I've been watching your videos quietly as I look into the truth of Orthodoxy. I really appreciated the difference in tone and cadence that you took with this conversation. This conversation was really easy to follow.
    Glory to the Triune God, and pray for me on my journey.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +8

      Come visit: orthodoxyinamerica.org/
      Join discord if you have questions: discord.com/invite/wtqDsy4eVs

    • @t-rizzle0509
      @t-rizzle0509 Před rokem +5

      Do you think Jay Dyer is mean? Just curious.

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK Před rokem

      @@t-rizzle0509. Lmao

    • @ConnorMBanks
      @ConnorMBanks Před rokem

      @@t-rizzle0509 the meanest.

  • @justina.304
    @justina.304 Před rokem +410

    As a former calvinist (now Orthodox Christian ☦️), I AM SO HERE FOR THIS!!!

  • @adavidavis2762
    @adavidavis2762 Před rokem +64

    The edits are funny but also are poor form because Zoomer can't respond to them. He's a guest on your channel and should be treated with respect.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +3

      I edit all my videos with memes & sound effects. I treated him with respect but think of this
      Option 1: I do not edit video at all... => People don't watch as long because they loose attention span => people are confused on the issue because they don't know response to what RZ is saying
      or
      Option 2: I edit the video (like all my videos) => people watch the video longer because it is more engaging with memes & music => I let RZ speak but correct him when is wrong so people are not confused and know the truth

    • @adavidavis2762
      @adavidavis2762 Před rokem +26

      @@OrthodoxKyle I understand your point but I still don't like it, I suppose if RZ knew that was how you were going to do the video then it's okay, though still not particularly fair or balanced.
      I also suspect that I am not your target audience at all.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +1

      @@adavidavis2762 My audience is mainly zoomers looking into Orthodox Christianity... I debunk Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, Atheists etc etc.. check out my other videos.. I think you will like. God bless!

    • @DaughterOfChrist1997
      @DaughterOfChrist1997 Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@OrthodoxKyle “I edit all my videos [that way]” that’s not an excuse… you should learn to be respectful & not prideful & rude. ✝️

    • @RenewedPerspective3626
      @RenewedPerspective3626 Před měsícem +3

      @@DaughterOfChrist1997 He apologized for it in one of his recent videos on Redeemed Zoomer

  • @tobyroy336
    @tobyroy336 Před rokem +115

    I feel so humbled that two young people are showing such leadership in coming together and having a grown up conversation about two very different Christo-centric experiences. The respect and humility you have towards each other, regardless of the events that brought you together, shows that there is so much hope. And for me personally speaking, that is exactly what Christ is; hope. Thank you both for such a wonderful hour and a half. God bless ✝☦

  • @Vash13er
    @Vash13er Před rokem +100

    Kyle, your format of injecting immediate refutations and sound-bytes comes across as disrespectful. The implication of these edits is that you listen to refute - not to understand. This did not come across as a conversation to me, but rather as an attempt to undercut those who disagree with you at every turn. While Redeemed Zoomer acknowledged your points and charitably explored shortcomings of his tradition, you acknowledged nothing and came across as uncharitable. Honestly, I saw nothing gained for your channel except to regurgitate what you and yours already want to hear. I may not agree with Redeemed Zoomer on everything, but unity within the catholic Church is one where you and I seem to differ. May we both come to grow in one body into the Head which is Christ. Be blessed.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +7

      "mmediate refutations and sound-bytes comes across as disrespectful"
      That is literally how I edit ALL my videos and interviews. I am guessing this is first video you have seen of mine...
      "hese edits is that you listen to refute" All my videos are about debunking? showing Orthodoxy is true.
      "not to understand. This did not come across as a conversation to me"
      I would have had to constantly interupt him.. this was just a casual conversation. I understand his point but he is trying to boil down Christianity to lowest common denominator "just believe x" but Christianity is so much more! it is the Orthodox Church!
      "explored shortcomings of his tradition," But I showed how that was wrong. Much of my audience is new to Orthdoxy and it would be DANGEROUS and irresponsible of ME to not show them the truth. it could confuse and that would be liable on my soul.
      " you acknowledged nothing" acknowledged nothing????? what ? did you even watch the video? we discused some many topics
      "ithin the catholic Church is one"
      Roman Catholic Church is not one.. I used to be Catholic.. watch these: twitter.com/OrthodoxKyle/status/1654687207805034496
      join discord: discord.com/invite/wtqDsy4eVs
      God bless!

    • @subzee5623
      @subzee5623 Před rokem +50

      ​@@OrthodoxKyleyou just proved the point of the guy who wrote the comment. Why do you edit and respond like an annoying 10 year old know-it-all? Imagine everyone acted like this - noone would get to the truth because everyone would be so sure of their opinion and blinded by it!

    • @DopeMope
      @DopeMope Před 8 měsíci +13

      Thank you came to the comments to say this. I had to just listen to the video and not watch at all cause watching it was unbearable and ruined the otherwise solid conversation between the 2 of them.

    • @samuelcabral5483
      @samuelcabral5483 Před 7 měsíci +12

      @@DopeMope i basically could not pay attention to redeemedzoomer because of the edit. i hope Kyle can recognize that, the edit was pretty annoying and kinda spoiled the entire video. Being defensive about that will do no good at all

    • @cjironcjiron
      @cjironcjiron Před 6 měsíci +2

      ⁠@@OrthodoxKyleIt’s akin to the guy down the street yelling at people that theyre going to hell.
      I think balancing entertainment while trying to share serious information is a difficult thing. So being open to criticism on your approach is very appropriate. You dont “need” to constantly interrupt him, you simply take turns discussing. This “need” comes from pride and impatience.

  • @ohdarlin14
    @ohdarlin14 Před rokem +225

    In 2020, my non-denom church had an Easter service streamed and we were told to grab anything we had in the house for communion. I realize now as an Orthodox catechumen how blasphemous and heretical that was. Lord have mercy on us.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +41

      Glory to God!

    • @eraimattei
      @eraimattei Před rokem +10

      What do you mean ANYTHING? I'm Catholic and usually there are special prayers for when you cannot receive the Eucharist for one reason or another

    • @ohdarlin14
      @ohdarlin14 Před rokem

      Anything, for example, Oreos and coke. Literally, any items we had in the house could be used as the precious body and blood because ultimately they believed communion was just a symbol. @@eraimattei

    • @calebneff5777
      @calebneff5777 Před rokem +11

      My non-denom church would absolutely call that heretical, so be careful of that brush you're painting with, it's awfully wide.

    • @ohdarlin14
      @ohdarlin14 Před rokem +27

      @@calebneff5777 Well I never said all non denom churches do or say that.. I said MY church. So please be careful while reading comments before commenting yourself.

  • @chocolateneko9912
    @chocolateneko9912 Před rokem +83

    Glad you two had a conversation. I hope RZ looks more into Orthodoxy. ❤️☦️

  • @andie_z
    @andie_z Před rokem +93

    It's so interesting to listen to conversations about religion from people your own age instead of those from older generations sometimes, because while they do have wisdom and knowledge, it's refreshing to be able to relate :)

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +10

      awesome! god bless!

    • @calebneff5777
      @calebneff5777 Před rokem +6

      Zoomer was debating, Kyle was dismissing. I like Kyle, but he was out of his depth here.

    • @vh1789
      @vh1789 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@OrthodoxKyle Kyle???? Lowercase g????
      Omg, how do u dareeee!!!??!!?? 😡😡
      (Jk)

    • @wessbess
      @wessbess Před 5 měsíci

      You had my subscription for about five minutes and then you lost it with your unfair, crappy subtitles

  • @Antonio-ep4no
    @Antonio-ep4no Před rokem +40

    Very distracting that you constantly put up memes and text whilst Reedemed Zoomer is talking to undermine his argument - if you want to undermine his argument you have to actually say those things you can’t retrospectively play noises and memes whilst he’s talking it’s kinda cheap

    • @luanfernandes5838
      @luanfernandes5838 Před rokem +19

      I was thinking exactly the same, a debate should be a conversation in which the audience decides who was most plausible. i thought that was very disrespectful, RZ would never do that on his channel

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +6

      @@luanfernandes5838 watch any of my other videos. I do this in all my videos. Including my interviews (Orthocast).
      I let him talk but I need to correct if he makes mistake so audience is not confused. God blless!

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +3

      "actually say those things you can’t retrospectively play" then I would constantly be interuppting him? This is meant to be a conversation... Just correcting and showing the truth if he gets something wrong. God bless!

    • @ananonymouseuser2571
      @ananonymouseuser2571 Před rokem +1

      How DARE Kyle inform his audience of Protestant and Papal Protestant errors, doesn't he know we all would rather be blind sheep?
      It's called rhetoric, by the way. It's a form of argumentation. Sorry if I informed you of that, but I figured you might need to know what that is; so you don't go around accusing people falsely. I leave it to you to Google the definition, since you seem to be against people defining simple things for you, as Kyle did through his memes, and highlighted articles.

    • @violetblythe6912
      @violetblythe6912 Před 5 měsíci

      @@OrthodoxKyle I totally get your point. If I could still add a suggestion though, I would at least leave the sound bites out in a discussion like this in the future. I think they would be good for a response video or something, but during a conversation like this it ends up coming across rude. The footnotes are completely fine, but just the "WRONG" every time he speaks gets a bit obnoxious. Great conversation though!

  • @LastDaysIntercessors
    @LastDaysIntercessors Před 8 měsíci +80

    These edits were done in bad faith. If you're truly on the side of truth, you shouldn't need a massive post-edit effort to bolster your side. Much respect to Redeemed Zoomer.

    • @liturgies
      @liturgies Před 7 měsíci +26

      My same thought

    • @TDoogey
      @TDoogey Před 7 měsíci +21

      Seems like he was too scared to respond in person and had to resort to edits. Pretty slimy lol

    • @violetblythe6912
      @violetblythe6912 Před 5 měsíci +15

      I wouldn't mind the edits if they were more respectful footnotes. It comes across like trying to dunk on RZ instead of just reflection. I don't know much about this guy though so I don't want to automatically assume his intent was bad.

    • @joeyn985
      @joeyn985 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Well, if he wanted a debate, organize it as a debate and Redeemed Zoomer would engage accordingly.
      Instead he's claiming it's just a discussion, but then post-editing rebuttals on top. Like when people do response or reaction videos rebutting someone else's points.
      Either have a debate and let the other side engage, or have a discussion and just talk, don't have a running caption saying "the other guy is actually wrong tho"

    • @DaughterOfChrist1997
      @DaughterOfChrist1997 Před 4 měsíci

      100% agreed. That is not behaving in a Christian manner.

  • @rippedgoat3587
    @rippedgoat3587 Před rokem +471

    The gates of hell will never prevail against the orthodox church ☦️

    • @tcavalo
      @tcavalo Před rokem +2

      I hate to tell you, but as much as I hate to admit, the gates (defensive mechanism) have not only prevailed, but are growing stronger in their defense where the gates are now open and their troops are gaining ground. Just being honest.

    • @jakebarnes3054
      @jakebarnes3054 Před rokem +12

      ​@@tcavalolearn to postmillennial eschatology

    • @tcavalo
      @tcavalo Před rokem

      ​​@@jakebarnes3054have learned pre-, mid-, post-, amill and preterism. These are really non issues

    • @baldwinthefourth4098
      @baldwinthefourth4098 Před rokem +10

      They did the moment you rejected the Filioque and Papacy.

    • @rippedgoat3587
      @rippedgoat3587 Před rokem +48

      @@baldwinthefourth4098 they prevailed against the catholic church the moment you added those things

  • @Very_Silly_Individual
    @Very_Silly_Individual Před rokem +39

    The thing that broke me from leftism was abortion. Transgenderism also started to seem ridiculous when I looked into it further.

  • @jaskamattila4481
    @jaskamattila4481 Před 9 měsíci +34

    Wow, this is edited in super bad faith. Why do you feel the need to undercut things he is saying by spamming memes over it? Especially when it's done after the fact, everyone knows that while speaking live you cannot perfectly think through what you're going to say. This is like when in the shower you think how you could've won that one argument- but you actually went and tried to edit the argument to strengthen your point. Also it's super ADHD, I can't concentrate.

  • @Alex12067
    @Alex12067 Před rokem +65

    This was unexpected surprise but a welcome one ✝️☦️

  • @Acularis
    @Acularis Před rokem +57

    Damn, this might be one of the podcasts I actually have to watch cause of all the great edits you put in Kyle!

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +13

      I edit all my podcast pretty well. Check out Orthocast!

  • @living_orthodox
    @living_orthodox Před rokem +71

    What Redeemed Zoomer needs to realize about the human side and the divine side of the Church, is that much like Christ, this is in one hypostasis. He is flirting with a Nestorian ecclesiology. He also forgets that a fruit and sign of the Spirit is unity. Theologically and ecclesiastically. None of which is shared by Orthodox and RCC.

    • @Skd92g
      @Skd92g Před rokem +5

      Well said!

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +18

      Thank you Father!!

    • @ThumbKnuckle
      @ThumbKnuckle Před rokem +14

      Before I began going to the nearby Orthodox church (OCA) I had this realization, I had to test out the line of argumentation, first, but using it made me become more confident in Orthodoxy. Raised non-denominational by my parents, became Lutheran in reaction to the fruit of the charismatic movement and am now Orthodox because of the fruit of the so called reformation.
      Pray for Saint Mary's Cathedral in Minneapolis that we may prepare correctly for the attempted 2025 reunion and not fall in line with the papists.

    • @lefroge6202
      @lefroge6202 Před rokem +1

      @@ThumbKnuckle The 2025 what? 😳

    • @ThumbKnuckle
      @ThumbKnuckle Před rokem

      @@lefroge6202 the ecumenical patriarch wants us to join hands with the roman church. I don't know how this will end.

  • @jukkaahonen6557
    @jukkaahonen6557 Před rokem +17

    As an agnostic, it's so refreshing to listen to two enthusiastic Christian zoomers talk about their faith. In this day and age, it feels wholesome, even if I disagree about faith in God. I truly enjoy listening to you two 😊

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +14

      Come visit a Church: orthodoxyinamerica.org/
      you are invited! I used to be Athiest.
      God bless!

  • @wilder11
    @wilder11 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Though occasionally humorous, I didn't care for the constant edits and captions. Your conversation was a good one, but these inserts not only distracted from it - but it actively made you look bad faith Kyle. Like you were using your platform to get extra dunks on Zoomer that you wouldn't or couldn't do in the moment.
    I actually agree with your POV more than Zoomer's, but I didn't care for those additions. I suggest leaving the memery to the beginning and/or the end. Or edit in a post-hoc clip of you clarifying your thoughts or what you think of Zoomer's points in a more straightforward manner. All these elements make it seem like you're just trying to dunk on him, which smacks of pride. But even if that wasn't your intent, they're distracting if nothing else.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I used to add to many memes in my videos / other people commented the same thing. I changed my approach. We had a follow up conversation: czcams.com/video/P2hNW_ltKDs/video.htmlsi=7v2U3m60lxIsBgJw God bless!

    • @wilder11
      @wilder11 Před 5 měsíci

      @@OrthodoxKyle Hey right on! I will check it out. God bless.

  • @albinosh4dow
    @albinosh4dow Před rokem +11

    Correcting the video after the fact with the benefit of Google and other resources, as opposed to voicing your concerns during the actual discussion is really distasteful in my opinion. I’ll just not look at the screen and let your arguments stand by themselves. It’s a shame Redeemed Zoomer doesn’t get this third wall-breaking ability to correct you and your points on this video. It’s like you added a refutation to it.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem

      " really distasteful in my opinion." how is distasteful to correct and show the truth? are you a relativist? does truth not matter?
      "opposed to voicing your concerns during the actual discussion is really distasteful in my opinion"
      Each one of brought up 10-20 poiints each time we talked. If we discued EVERY point then video would be 10 hours long.. This was a casual conversation. Not a bloodsports debate??
      I let him get his argument out, but just offered correct because MUCH of my audience is new to Orthodoxy? It would be wrong to confuse my audience.. Hope you understand. God bless!

  • @ishoshamo8949
    @ishoshamo8949 Před rokem +20

    I never thought that I would see this day. It's finally happened the great dialogue. ☦️

  • @victormartir2858
    @victormartir2858 Před rokem +10

    Personally, I think all the memes and sound effects come off as disrespectful towards your guest speaker. As someone who is considering which part of Christianity makes the most sense and trying to see both sides’ point of view, I really can’t take yours seriously if all you do is mock the other person’s position. Even if you were right, I wouldn’t want to consider being part of Orthodoxy if it leads to being so disrespectful and cocky.

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK Před rokem

      You don’t want to be part of the true Church because you don’t like Kyle’s editing? Why do you care what sect you’re in if it’s based on feelings and tone?

    • @Phoebe907
      @Phoebe907 Před rokem +5

      My position also. It was also just distracting as a viewer. I was trying to listen to Redeemed Zoomer AND read the text. I get wanting to add what he didn’t get the chance to say, but he should have done that in a separate video, like some sort of reaction/response video. “Things I should have said/missed” video. What he did came across as unkind, which is a shame because he was very respectful in the actual debate.

    • @Phoebe907
      @Phoebe907 Před rokem +5

      @@TheRealRealOKYou do know your conduct matters, right? How are you going to draw people to “the truth church” if the fruits of the Spirit are not evident?

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK Před rokem

      @@Phoebe907 Kyle wasn’t being unkind. It was just fun.

    • @Phoebe907
      @Phoebe907 Před rokem +3

      @@TheRealRealOK It’s disrespectful, I couldn’t watch it. I wouldn’t be surprised if his guest doesn’t want to come back after seeing his edits.

  • @MrBiribado
    @MrBiribado Před rokem +69

    ABSOLUTE CHADS. Super based guys, thank you both for the video. Christ pilled.

  • @voxpluma5101
    @voxpluma5101 Před rokem +11

    It is bad faith to argue through pictures and texts as the other speaker is making his point. It is not transparent and it does not allow the other speaker to address the objection or clarify his point.

    • @negotiumnovum8899
      @negotiumnovum8899 Před rokem

      I think it's ok

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +1

      It would be bad faith if I removed his arguments..
      I let him state his arguments and just offered correction so my audience is not confused (many of them are new to Orthodoxy).
      I heavily edit all my videos.. People have short attention span which is why I spam with memes and music

    • @voxpluma5101
      @voxpluma5101 Před rokem +2

      @@OrthodoxKyle It is not easy to hold a fully open conversation (or a classic debate of sorts) while at the same time guarding the "young" faith of some of your followers,... In that sense I understand your concern. It is not an easy balance to strike ... my comment was strictly on the form and not your intentions. God bless you.

  • @phoglebice
    @phoglebice Před rokem +11

    Found the edits very disrespectfull. If it was ment to be a debate why just not have one so the other party could defend his position. Very uncharitable.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +2

      I am guessing you are first time viewing....? I edit all my videos with memes & sounds.. go watch them?
      "Very uncharitable." this makes no sense?? it is uncharitable to show the truth??? are you a Relativist??
      All I did Is offer correction on screen. Nothing "disrespectfull" about the truth...

    • @phoglebice
      @phoglebice Před rokem +5

      Lol I did not say that saying the truth is disrespectful, set aside the pride and look at the comment again.

    • @dited358
      @dited358 Před rokem +3

      @@OrthodoxKyle Its easy to "offer correction" when it goes unchallenged in the moment, thats a common atheist stunt. Might wanna work on the pride, as the previous comment noted.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +1

      @@dited358
      how is it prideful to show people the truth??
      "goes unchallenged in the moment" My audience is new to Orthodoxy. There is nothing wrong with correcting someone.. Why would I let me audience be confused if someone is teaching error??
      Look in the mirror, That is insanse pride to think I should let someone teach error without correction?? so if I talk to a Muslim I should just let him preach his heresy without correction???
      I never called you names..? sad you believe this...

    • @havefaith4382
      @havefaith4382 Před 8 měsíci

      @@OrthodoxKyle you: "all i did was show memes on the screen to make fun of how stupid his take is"
      also you: "guys how am i disrespectful"
      pick a side moron stop being a centrist own the fact you are edgy or dont just stop being lukewarm
      you are trying to cry out in pain while striking someone

  • @lukavukcevic6429
    @lukavukcevic6429 Před rokem +10

    Putting screenshots of blocks of text that no one will read is not a refutation of anything Zoomer said.
    Kyle please stop being so insecure in your own position and have a normal conversation without the pure cringe of sound effects and screen text.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem

      "not a refutation of anything Zoomer said."
      Have you read the other comments? many people screen shot and read them? that is the reason I show them on screen... to offer correction because I don't want people to be confused....
      "insecure in your own position"
      How is it insecure to offer correct ahha? can you please explain??
      " sound effects and screen text."
      Clearly you haven't seen any of my other videos or interviews.. I literally do this every single video...

  • @MajorMustang1117
    @MajorMustang1117 Před rokem +104

    Still so glad I left Protestantism for Holy Orthodoxy!
    Two awesome CZcamsrs. Great to see it.

    • @ethan-qm8gu
      @ethan-qm8gu Před 9 měsíci

      What’s the difference

    • @BuriedDimension
      @BuriedDimension Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@ethan-qm8guProtestantism is a joke, that's the difference

    • @ethan-qm8gu
      @ethan-qm8gu Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@BuriedDimension how is it a joke explain

    • @DefenderOfChrist_
      @DefenderOfChrist_ Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@BuriedDimensionOrthodoxy is a joke faith saves alone as said in the Bible

    • @brayanxd4547
      @brayanxd4547 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@BuriedDimension why are orthodox so arrogant..?

  • @ofauvi2089
    @ofauvi2089 Před rokem +107

    I remember an argument in a comment section where a guy converted from Catholicism to orthodoxy. A Protestant said
    “You changed from Catholicism to orthodoxy? That’s like switching from coke to Pepsi” and the orthodox guy replied “No, it’s switching from tap water to spring water”

    • @deutschesvaterlandfankanal
      @deutschesvaterlandfankanal Před 11 měsíci +5

      BOOOM

    • @joseurrutia1877
      @joseurrutia1877 Před 8 měsíci

      Hey what does that mean from tap water to spring water bro currently I’m a Christian raised Catholic looking at the Orthodox Church ! Any advice 🙏😎🫡👍✝️

    • @christservant21
      @christservant21 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@joseurrutia1877 do your research on papal infallibility and where you land on that topic will determine if you stay in catholicism or move to orthodox. Look at both sides arguments and maybe some neutral discussions also. Pray for guidance and wisdom too

    • @acekoala457
      @acekoala457 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@joseurrutia1877
      Tap water has Fluoride

  • @Conifer-sc6jg
    @Conifer-sc6jg Před 11 měsíci +6

    You're an amazing communicator, Kyle. I'm a teenage prospecting convert and your videos have been super helpful for understanding the spirit of Orthodox theological concepts. Thank you. I hope God continues to bless your channel.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Come visit: orthodoxyinamerica.org/
      God bless!

  • @mrbeefal0
    @mrbeefal0 Před rokem +21

    Watched the whole thing and nothing was resolved. Only way to settle this is Kyle 1v1ing RZ in minecraft. Winner is part of the true church

  • @Nekroleinchen
    @Nekroleinchen Před rokem +9

    it was really great to hear you two talk. beeing a protestant myself i would love to visit an orthodox church sometimes. god bless you

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +2

      orthodoxyinamerica.org/ Come visit! and read Rock and Sand! reach out if you have questions! God bless!

  • @IAmDawnPatrol
    @IAmDawnPatrol Před rokem +9

    This is epic! Love both channels. God bless you guys!

  • @officialjbbeverley
    @officialjbbeverley Před rokem +64

    I’d just like to thank you both for having a civil conversation and not interrupting one another.

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK Před rokem +1

      Yeah, they were both very chill.

    • @bobbobb4804
      @bobbobb4804 Před rokem

      it was such a good discussion and I learned a lot from both sides

    • @PrototypeGoose
      @PrototypeGoose Před rokem +7

      also kyle in his editing whenever Zoomer is speaking: WRONG WRONG WRONG

    • @MrMountaindiver
      @MrMountaindiver Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yeah, Kyle seems petty invisible editing. Grow up and be honest about if you want a respectful conversation.

    • @DaughterOfChrist1997
      @DaughterOfChrist1997 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@PrototypeGoose^ those “wrong” interruptions were so uncivilised. Like, come on. Be a decent Christian.

  • @localnwah7044
    @localnwah7044 Před rokem +11

    Based and Christ pilled you guys are up there with my fav you tubers 🙏🏻❤️✝️☦️

  • @briansmith397
    @briansmith397 Před rokem +15

    Why are most of you disagreements with Redeemed Zoomer displayed on the screen after the conversation as apposed to brought up during the conversing?

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +1

      " brought up during the conversing?" what did I not bring up?
      "displayed on the screen" I don't want peopel to be confused, when he says something wrong. Just showing correction.
      Check out my ohter videos. God bless!

  • @Josh-sc1mr
    @Josh-sc1mr Před rokem +10

    It's actually pretty lame to edit this debate in your favor through memes and rebuttals post debate. I would debate you Kyle

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem

      I edit all my videos... why would I not correct someone if they are teaching error? This was not bloodsports debate but casual conversation... message me on discord / twitter if you want to debate.

    • @Josh-sc1mr
      @Josh-sc1mr Před rokem

      ​@@OrthodoxKylejust completed the vetting information, waiting for review

  • @tacopig7605
    @tacopig7605 Před rokem +6

    You, Pencils and Prayer Ropes, and Redeemed Zoomer have helped my faith so much. God bless y'all☦

  • @BrettGarner17
    @BrettGarner17 Před rokem +5

    I was thrilled to see this pop up on my feed. Such a great convo. God bless ☦️

  • @WetruNIKA
    @WetruNIKA Před rokem +15

    you're a G, favourite Orthodox youtuber fr!

  • @fornost64
    @fornost64 Před rokem +6

    Another banger Kyle! Very charitable conversation and give me a lot of hope for the young future of faith

  • @ks1withcanc3r20
    @ks1withcanc3r20 Před rokem +15

    God bless you both

  • @DanielBerthellemy
    @DanielBerthellemy Před rokem +9

    Psalm 49 ☦️ Keep on preaching the truth my brother ❤ 🙏🏻

  • @puchy110
    @puchy110 Před rokem +145

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: every conservative Christian knows orthodoxy is the truth, but they were simply raised in different traditions.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +54

      We must bring Orhtodoxy to them!

    • @planteruines5619
      @planteruines5619 Před rokem +8

      but the filioque ...

    • @chocolateneko9912
      @chocolateneko9912 Před rokem +8

      @@planteruines5619 what about it? If we are being conservative then we should use the original un theologically changed creed that the Orthodox Church uses.

    • @theintelligentmilkjug944
      @theintelligentmilkjug944 Před rokem +1

      I guess I'm not a conservative Christian then, but I wouldn't really call myself too much of a liberal one either.

    • @johnndamascene
      @johnndamascene Před rokem

      Truth

  • @sweatt4237
    @sweatt4237 Před 7 měsíci +14

    Most GenZ debate ever, interrupting with memes.

    • @TDoogey
      @TDoogey Před 7 měsíci +6

      This Kyle guy seems real childish lol

  • @shaunschulte2258
    @shaunschulte2258 Před rokem +4

    So great to see young people so passionate about their faith! It gives me hope that you will do more with the world than my generation.

  • @aikolactaotao
    @aikolactaotao Před rokem +12

    While I was never an atheist, I used to be a passive Catholic during childhood until my late teens. I flirted a bit with agnosticism during my early 20’s, but that was mostly because I had a perverted understanding of Continental philosophy, lol. Fast forward now that I’m in my early 30’s, I am still growing in my Christian faith, but I have confidence in myself and in God that I am firmly rooted in Christ. ❤ It’s amazing to hear both your conversion stories, the world needs more of you to inspire the next generation.

  • @Jeem196
    @Jeem196 Před rokem +16

    Great collaboration brother Kyle!

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +4

      thanks! hope you are doing well. God bless!

  • @mishashcherbakov7369
    @mishashcherbakov7369 Před 5 měsíci +3

    You guys have helped me so much on my way to Christ!!! Thank you very much!

  • @182452134
    @182452134 Před rokem +5

    Me, a born and raised Orthodox Chtistian, may for the first time be seeing a cool neardy Orthodox guy ever. Kyle seems like a very cool guy. Redeemed Zoomer is amazing as well, amazing young preacher. Great conversation overall 😊

  • @MrownXXV
    @MrownXXV Před rokem +15

    I still don’t see why I should accept Calvin’s doctrine or understanding over Luther or any other reformer or schismatic.

  • @BD-vr5lu
    @BD-vr5lu Před rokem +14

    Jesus wasn’t socialist he fed people lol that was good

  • @therustler30
    @therustler30 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Unecessary edits.
    The golden standard for "is this the same church" for me, and I would argue is logical for anyone really is:
    "Does this official teaching corrupt the original gospel (the words of Jesus Christ as he lived and died for us) get corrupted to the point where you will be damned"
    If it does teach that then we are not of the same church, so official Catholic teaching is a heresy and cannot be reconciled with any other Christian bodies for example.
    We all agree to follow the word of God, if you don't follow the word of God (the teachings of Jesus Christ) then you are not Christian.
    The old and new testament tells us all we need to know.

    • @TDoogey
      @TDoogey Před 7 měsíci +1

      Was looking for a comment like this, 100% agree

  • @Alex12067
    @Alex12067 Před rokem +21

    7:13 Kyle drinking water out of beer mug

  • @living_orthodox
    @living_orthodox Před rokem +15

    Listening to the rest of the talk, Redeemed Zoomer doesn’t want to acknowledge the boundaries of the Church, yet it was a council of a Church that doesn’t resemble his church, that established and decided the canon of the New Testament. Council of Carthage to be exact. He quotes Timothy, but it is in Timothy, that we see the verse “the Church is the pillar and ground of truth”.
    Furthermore, he doesn’t believe councils are guided by the Holy Spirit but then he categorically rejects the council of Jerusalem in Acts 15…he isn’t sure what he believes or why. He was a great guest though. Very civil.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +9

      Exactly 👆 I think he will come around with time. we must pray for him 🙏 maybe you two could do a stream haha

  • @joshclossick5710
    @joshclossick5710 Před rokem +7

    After this long journey since February I'm finally getting baptized in September, took awhile because we got a new Priest from Constantinople and he has the Deacon finishing my Catechism. Glory to God ☦

  • @TheGymBroSkii
    @TheGymBroSkii Před 7 měsíci +5

    Definitely agree with parts of what each of these men have to say, but redeemed zoomer takes the cake for me. Great to see Christian men playing a part in gen z, God bless.

    • @sunnyztmoney
      @sunnyztmoney Před měsícem

      Calcanism is a great way to go to hell

  • @Darncoolcreeper
    @Darncoolcreeper Před rokem +10

    Redeemed zoomer said “1 timothy says all scripture is God breathed” but how do you know if the book of 1 timothy is true scripture? How do you know the canon of scripture? He was not able to answer this and admitted he was using circular logic. I would like to ask him “who put the Bible together, and do you believe the same things that they believe?”

    • @CosmicMystery7
      @CosmicMystery7 Před rokem +8

      I'm not sure why Protestant always bring up this passage when speaking with Orthodox Christians. We completely agree that all Scripture is God breathed. The question is, how do we know which books are God breathed.

    • @acekoala457
      @acekoala457 Před rokem

      ​@@CosmicMystery7
      As well as who has the Authority to Interpret the God-Breathed Scriptures.

    • @florida5236
      @florida5236 Před rokem +1

      The irony when Timothy talks about priests, deacons, bishops, ordaining, and guidance to Timothy from Paul on being a bishop.

  • @galahadarthur5241
    @galahadarthur5241 Před rokem +13

    This video further solidified my belief in protestantism.
    Thank you guys for the great discussion.
    Nothing but love for my orthodox brothers.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +1

      solidified that it is wrong or right? these are good also: twitter.com/OrthodoxKyle/status/1686579162071678976
      God bless

  • @redwojak5182
    @redwojak5182 Před rokem +68

    i watched redeemed zoomer before watching kyle, now im a kyle supremacist.
    zoomer convert to orthodoxy NOW

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +16

      haha pray for him!

    • @xHollow.
      @xHollow. Před rokem +1

      Jesus is all you need.

    • @Val.Kyrie.
      @Val.Kyrie. Před rokem

      @@xHollow.which Jesus?

    • @ThomasG_Nikolaj
      @ThomasG_Nikolaj Před rokem +4

      @@xHollow. The Mormon Jesus? The JW Jesus? Blavatsky's Ascended Master Jesus? The Islamic Jesus? The Urantia Cult Jesus? The Gnostic Jesus? The Nestorian Jesus? The Arian Jesus? Which one? All these heretical cults say "I just follow Jesus maaaan" ... That's not how it works

    • @redwojak5182
      @redwojak5182 Před rokem +3

      @@ThomasG_Nikolaj WELL SAID

  • @Tricorncitizen
    @Tricorncitizen Před rokem +11

    Kinda trashy to counter his points with memes and text without letting him address it

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +1

      How is it trashy to show the truth? I let him give his poisiton and offered correction when he errored... If I constantly interupted then you would complain about that also...
      I let him explain his position but showed the truth on screen so audience is not confused..
      This was a casual conversation not a bloodsports debate..
      Watch any of my other videos. always full of memes

    • @phoglebice
      @phoglebice Před rokem +5

      Indeed, I also found it very disrespectful.

    • @paulboerin173
      @paulboerin173 Před rokem +1

      Agreed. Present the points to him directly so he can respond. Kind of disingenuous.

  • @michaelbanda9993
    @michaelbanda9993 Před rokem +7

    All the subtitles were L’s man.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem

      why??

    • @michaelbanda9993
      @michaelbanda9993 Před rokem +2

      @@OrthodoxKylegas lighting brother. Didn’t bring them up when he was there. Saying it without allowing him to counter your sub titles In person. I think it’s a little deceiving.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem

      @@michaelbanda9993 what did I show and then not bring up? each person brought up 10-20 points each time we spoke... video would 10 hours, If I stopped him each time, I foucsed on replying to one aspect...
      "little deceiving." It is decieving to show the truth. your logic makes no sense? it would be irrespobile of me to just allow him to spread errorr withour corruption. I let him explain his position but corrected when he was wrong. Also people's attention spans are so short, memes and sound effects help to give context. Watch literally any of my videos...

    • @michaelbanda9993
      @michaelbanda9993 Před rokem +3

      your logic makes no sense. Let the points you bring up be just that, instead of taking scripture to fit your position without giving the opposition to reply.@@OrthodoxKyle

  • @Nikolai.A.McGuire
    @Nikolai.A.McGuire Před 27 dny

    This is possibly the best debate I've ever seen, you both spoke so well and were so respectful, Power be with Christ, in one Catholic, apostolic church ☦

  • @eric713
    @eric713 Před rokem +4

    Two legends, looking forward to this one 🔥God bless!

  • @xwaazes6375
    @xwaazes6375 Před rokem +12

    I think conversations like this one, where both parties agrees on an explicitly stated end goal, and then discuss the methodology are a lot more fruitful and enjoyable.

  • @FATHOLLYWOODB123
    @FATHOLLYWOODB123 Před 8 měsíci +5

    As a former calvinist turned baptists, who is now a Catholic, this video was interesting! I hope you guys both come back to the true Church!

    • @kevinpulliam3661
      @kevinpulliam3661 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Haha seriously. I think they will. It will become more obvious who the true Church is once it gets worse

    • @halcyonpanzer1562
      @halcyonpanzer1562 Před 8 měsíci

      God bless Brother.

  • @OkieAllDay
    @OkieAllDay Před 4 měsíci +1

    Both of these young men are VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE on the topics discussed. I commend them for their study habits and pray for truth to win out

  • @Mr.Scar_Real
    @Mr.Scar_Real Před rokem +5

    It’s so great to see two members of our generation spreading the Word on CZcams.

  • @thatwifeofhis7815
    @thatwifeofhis7815 Před rokem +7

    I like to do chores and tasks as i "watch" youtube. I catch all the Oofs and Wrongs, but miss so much meaning & humor layered in the visual edits. Undivided attention for full class credit.
    PS as a mom to a zoomer, i love gen z humor and media--so glad you two platform Christianity in the youtube sphere, i pray for you both.

  • @NotACommie17
    @NotACommie17 Před rokem +67

    Orthodoxy is always wins. Christ bless you☦️

  • @Max_Power100
    @Max_Power100 Před rokem +14

    Calvinism is cringe

  • @papicholo5586
    @papicholo5586 Před rokem +22

    I used to be such a protestant "extremist" I thought all other denominations were sinful and not of God, until I started watching Redeemed Zoomer, now I'm Catholic, thanks to him, my views on other denominations have changed massively. Glory to God

    • @Val.Kyrie.
      @Val.Kyrie. Před rokem +11

      You’re almost home!

    • @sebjfahey
      @sebjfahey Před rokem +5

      @@Val.Kyrie. No, Catholicism is true Christianity.

    • @VirginMostPowerfull
      @VirginMostPowerfull Před rokem +3

      @@sebjfahey Amen

    • @cfroi08
      @cfroi08 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@boz11100 Praying for y'all. I think this generation of Catholics will be the ones to allow Priests to marry, remove the Filioque, and return to tradition. It took Vatican II, but we're finally seeing Catholics come to their senses.

  • @blu9371
    @blu9371 Před rokem +28

    This feels like a second Nick Fuentes VS Jay Dyer.

  • @chenchi6623
    @chenchi6623 Před 7 měsíci +3

    As a former Calvinist, turned Atheist who converted to Hinduism and then Islam, now an Orthodox Christian who finally converted from Catholicism I enjoyed this. (jk tho)

  • @pabloalvarez7510
    @pabloalvarez7510 Před rokem +1

    Thank you Kyle and Redeemer Zoomer, you both are good young representatives for each faith. Loved the pace of the conversation and the respect showed for each other beliefs. Glory to God ☦!

  • @RedShnow
    @RedShnow Před rokem +10

    28:09 Funny because the councils are how You get the “scripture”

  • @carb300
    @carb300 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Brother, a point on doing these conversations - it seems in the moment you were either lost for words or holding back, and put stronger arguments as text overlays rather than making the point to your guest. If this is done because you “didn’t want to go there”, and wanted to keep it more conversational, I’d say to you - speak truth, in the moment, to the person you are talking to. This is true confession. If this is done out of not having the words in the moment, I’d recommend you prepare yourself better in research, prayer, and counsel from your priest and elders in your church. I appreciate the conversation, but I must say as an Orthodox Christian I wish our faith were argued for more fervently to the person you were speaking to - not simply in text on a screen. Please remember, if you are to speak for The Church, you must do so very carefully and cautiously as to not cause confusion or detriment to those listening. I pray a continued fire for the Lord, resilience and humility in your life.

  • @a2zz-gk197
    @a2zz-gk197 Před rokem +9

    My 2 favorite Zoomer Christian Channels talking?
    CROSSOVER OF THE CENTURY!

  • @CharlsGalindo
    @CharlsGalindo Před rokem +5

    May God bless you both. Christ is King

  • @2222bearbear
    @2222bearbear Před 10 měsíci +6

    you and zoomer helped me decide orthodoxy was right for me. y’all are workers of the kingdom

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Glory to God ☦☦ happy for you!

    • @havefaith4382
      @havefaith4382 Před 8 měsíci +1

      works dont save you jesus' work on the cross does
      he died for all of our sins he didnt die for some of our sins he died for all of our sins

  • @Redcrimson99
    @Redcrimson99 Před rokem +5

    The video could’ve been better if you didn’t add the memes in post production. It comes off as a little arrogant.

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +2

      Where in the Bible does it say we can't use memes???

  • @wietse14
    @wietse14 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I stumbled across this video today. As an atheist myself - curious about Christianity - I've loved to watch this debate between Kyle and Redeemed Zoomer. I grew up as an atheist and my parents are still atheist. I have never read the bible or have involved myself in Christianity or any other religion or whatsoever. I just did my own thing and never asked questions about the force of the universe or whatsoever. I simply didn't care about that or find myself intrigued by it.
    Now, as I approach 30, I experience that I've been drawn to Christianity and that I become more interested in it. Because I'm looking at having purpose and meaning in my life. I know that this can be achieved in other ways, but still I have found myself attracted to Christianity. I can't explain it, it's just a feeling that I have. Some part of me says that I should convert from atheist to Christian, some part of me says that this is not the proper way and that I have not researched this topic enough, which is true, but I still have this feeling.

    • @guineapigclips5205
      @guineapigclips5205 Před 5 měsíci

      I will pray that you find the truth brother🙏🙏🙏

    • @lennonhookway
      @lennonhookway Před 5 měsíci

      I am 20. I am an agnostic from an agnostic/Atheist family, and I am currently also having an interest in all major religions, I have 50% of me, I want to convert Christianity or Buddhuism, but the other half want me to stay agnostic and non religious. I hope in the near future, I will make my final decision and I will be a peace with that.
      Thank you

  • @homerpimpson9855
    @homerpimpson9855 Před rokem +12

    It would be cool to see a Kyle vs Zoomer debate on evolution

  • @Thelaststrand
    @Thelaststrand Před 3 měsíci

    I strayed from the faith for a while.
    Following my own whims and desires. Redeemed Zoomer brought me back to Christianity. Orthodox Kyle cemented me in the Orthodoxy. I can say I’ve never been so at peace for a while but it feels good to be back in the Pursuit of God
    Glory be to God. Indeed I was lost and he guided me back to him!!!

  • @delgande
    @delgande Před rokem +5

    Protestantism isn't Christianity
    No saints, no liturgy, no forgiveness of sins, no Apostolic succession, etc
    Why would we call them Christians? So they feel good? To give them communion? To approve of their doctrines? To confirm their belief in being saved?
    Answer is NO

    • @klutchedup9
      @klutchedup9 Před rokem

      Wdym no forgiveness of sins?

    • @delgande
      @delgande Před rokem

      @@klutchedup9 all Apostolic Churches, even heretical schismatics like the Nestorians, have priests who hear and have authority to forgive sins. Without that and without the Real Presence there is no forgiveness. How can we receive the Blood of Christ, shed for our forgiveness, without the Real Presence in the wine? Only a valid priest can consecrate the Bread and Wine and only a valid priest can hear the confession of sins.
      Perhaps in a special circumstance God can do these outside of communion and outside of the Church to those who truly repent and have never heard of any Apostolic Church, maybe, like Baptism of Desire or something
      But that is uncommon and protestants are quite strong in their denial and hatred of any Apostolic practices, like priesthood, images, Real Presence, confession, etc. Basically all the sacraments are look down on by Protestants as superstition or corruption. If that is true then they're no different from Muslims in claiming the same God, the same Jesus, the same Moses, etc, while denying the living Body of Christ on Earth that is his Church. If simply praying in private for forgiveness was enough and Faith Alone was enough then there would be no priesthood. No matter how much they pray in vain to their false God, JWs, Mormons, and all false religions cannot be forgiven for their very real sins, we all sin. If they did receive forgiveness then we would join them

    • @klutchedup9
      @klutchedup9 Před rokem

      @@delgande So God can't forgive sin if I ask Him/confess to Him? I don't have to ability to communicate with God?

    • @delgande
      @delgande Před rokem

      @@klutchedup9 did Jesus have to die? Why couldn't anyone just ask for forgiveness?

    • @klutchedup9
      @klutchedup9 Před rokem

      @@delgande I'm only a freshman in HS (13 yrs.), so I'm sincerely asking, I thought that the Levites were the ones who were assigned the priesthood in the OT, but since Jesus died for our sins, He can forgive us of our sins because He is our Mediator. I'm just really confused because my whole life I believe that Orthodox, Catholics, and Protestants were Christian, but I'm know learning that my church is just a group of heretics and I want to actually know God if that's the case and not burn in hell.

  • @benjamincagle2109
    @benjamincagle2109 Před 3 měsíci

    As a baptist, I deeply resonate with the importance of a worshipful, sacrificial heart to God (Psalms 51). I do have fault with how we worship together. It’s a big part of our services, yet it is often lacking in communal substance. I also think many baptists get the sacraments wrong and that the Lord’s Supper should be way more central to our liturgy. Massive respect for the piety that Orthodoxy holds. Love these two, glad to hear them discuss in a respectful manner as a fellow zoomer! God bless you both!

  • @TheGymBroSkii
    @TheGymBroSkii Před 7 měsíci +7

    Instead of the edits it would be much cooler if you actually responded

    • @TDoogey
      @TDoogey Před 7 měsíci +1

      He was too scared to respond during conversation lol

  • @kknives36
    @kknives36 Před rokem +2

    Really glad you guys decided to do this. I definitely agree more with you Kyle and if you’re ever in Houston I hope we can hang out. RZ while I disagree with your theology you are very eloquent and I’ve sent your videos to secular or spiritual people alike as introductions to the faith because you have good breakdowns and I can’t expect everyone to just immediately accept Orthodoxy.
    I remain of firmly Orthodox. However this has been great.

  • @VortexxFX
    @VortexxFX Před rokem +8

    The Pharisees tried to understand the laws of God as what is "important for salvation" and what is "not essential for salvation.
    Mark 7: ""And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God, in order to keep your tradition!""
    In the same way, the Ecumenical Protestants ignore/reject teachings that they deem to be not essential for salvation.

  • @vladodobleja748
    @vladodobleja748 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I was lucky to be born and grow in a very Orthodox Christian country,România!
    Here Orthodoxy is so embedded in our day-to-day lives,to the point where you can't separate Orthodoxy from the Romanian way of life!
    Kyle,listening to you was such a pleasure for me and I think you represented Orthodoxy very well,it would be nice if you would have another debate Orthodox vs. Catholics,Protestants and Neoprotestants.

  • @czaro8236
    @czaro8236 Před 8 měsíci +5

    It’s very irritating that you’re adding all those comments for your theses in post production. Like it’s a bit unfair don’t you think? Try to respond in real time!

  • @evanhuizenga8626
    @evanhuizenga8626 Před rokem +2

    I'm glad this conversation is happening, we need more people discussing these things across the borders of Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox! Even though Kyle's arguments did not convince me, and I found the edits to be annoying, he still had many good points, and he's doing good just publicly discussing this. Thank you for the video!

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem +2

      "Kyle's arguments did not convince me, "
      Why not? read Rock & Sand by Fr Josiah Trenham annd come visit: orthodoxyinamerica.org/
      "I found the edits to be annoying" I am guessing you are new viewer... Check out my other videos. always edit with memes & eveything.,...
      " he still had many good points"
      Thank you
      "good just publicly discussing this. "
      Yes, discussing is key! we want to get to truth! God bless!

  • @BestBuddyNoivern
    @BestBuddyNoivern Před rokem +11

    Two absolute legends. I always learn a lot from watching both of them.

  • @MrMountaindiver
    @MrMountaindiver Před 7 měsíci +2

    Couldn't finish. Kyle acts like its a friendlt discussion but then is disrespectful in his editing. Obviously orthodox dont think we're all Christians. They think they're the only Christians. If thats the case, Christianity itself is a lot smaller than we thought.

    • @johnnyd2383
      @johnnyd2383 Před 6 měsíci

      Yes, we see all Heterodox as those foolish virgins in the Bible awaiting Bridegroom but with the empty oil lamps... Where there is no light, darkness reigns.

  • @SonnyWane
    @SonnyWane Před rokem +9

    What’s with all the random sound board stuff? I felt like that was sort of unfair to frame the discussion like that

    • @Phoebe907
      @Phoebe907 Před rokem +2

      Agreed.

    • @notblackgymmax
      @notblackgymmax Před rokem +2

      Yeah super dishonest

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK Před rokem

      @@notblackgymmax. How is it dishonest? What is Kyle lying about?

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem

      @@notblackgymmax dishonest "Disposed to lie, cheat, defraud, or deceive."
      where did I do that?
      I let redeemd zoomer explain his point.. But i have to correct him when he is teaching error.
      Much of my audeince is new to Orthodoxy and I do NOT want to confuse them

    • @OrthodoxKyle
      @OrthodoxKyle  Před rokem

      watch anyy of my videos. I always add a bunch of memes and sound effects....
      "unfair to frame the discussion" I didn't want to constantly interuput RZ.. I just needed to show clairifications WHEN he taught something wrong so audience is not confused.
      God bless!