How Virtual Layoffs Became The New Normal For Workplaces

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  • čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
  • The rise of remote work during the Covid-19 pandemic has now brought about the rise of the virtual layoff.
    Last November, Meta laid off 11,000 workers, and its CEO, Mark Zuckerberg, delivered the news over a remote video call. In April, McDonald’s temporarily shut down its corporate offices and fired hundreds of employees virtually.
    Meta declined to send a statement, but a company’s spokesperson noted that the company has multiple locations in the world and cannot do all layoffs in person.
    The practice is leading to a public debate over layoff etiquette - whether giving employees the bad news is more dignified than locking them out of their email accounts overnight.
    “McDonald’s is teaching a master class in layoffs,” Jessica Kriegel, chief scientist of workplace culture at Culture Partners, told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” in April. “If I were getting laid off, I’d want to be laid off at home, not at the office.”
    McDonald’s declined to comment.
    Critics of the remote layoff trend say it lacks empathy and only favors the employer.
    “It’s lazy leadership,” said Nicholas Whitaker, former Google employee and chief well-being officer and coach for tech workers. “We’re talking about thousands of people’s lives that have been turned upside down. And it’s one of the most, you know, impactful moments in somebody’s career to be let go or to be laid off. It lacks humanity, an ethical and a moral component.”
    Watch the video above to find out how virtual layoffs have become a new workplace norm.
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:53 - How remote layoffs became the norm
    01:53 - The Big Tech hiring Spree
    05:26 - Remote termination etiquette
    08:30 - What's next
    Produced by: Anuz Thapa
    Narration by: Jordan Smith
    Supervising Producer: Jeff Morganteen
    Graphics by: Jason Reginato, Alex Wood and Christina Locopo
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    How Virtual Layoffs Became The New Normal For Workplaces

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  • @adrianmacaraeg5288
    @adrianmacaraeg5288 Před 11 měsíci +1765

    This is a testament that no matter how good you are as a employee, your still seen as a expendable.

    • @maxxpass
      @maxxpass Před 11 měsíci +108

      No matter how good you are, there is always someone cheaper

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 Před 11 měsíci +37

      Adrian: Yup. You can try to stay the hell away from the likely picks for the next round of layoffs by good performance -- but you can only control so much. And EVERY employee is expendable at some point in a for-profit business.

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 Před 11 měsíci +18

      @@maxxpass: Of course cheaper might be much worse -- but when they're only pinching pennies for the short term, they refuse to consider that.
      Of course that has consequences, but that's months to years away, most likely....

    • @maxxpass
      @maxxpass Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@rogergeyer9851 totally agree

    • @markux1983
      @markux1983 Před 11 měsíci +16

      Couldn’t agree more. We are simply numbers at the end of the day. So much lack of humanity…

  • @Randomcharacters_
    @Randomcharacters_ Před 11 měsíci +811

    When a CEO says they take full responsibility and lay people off, but at the same time keep their bonuses is BS.

    • @daniel25083
      @daniel25083 Před 11 měsíci +22

      Yup them taking responsibility for losses is using their bonus to fund those positions but nah they’ll just take the 200 mil

    • @JavierRamirez-ks9ji
      @JavierRamirez-ks9ji Před 11 měsíci +15

      As he should. If he’s making the the overall business more efficient and profitable than he should be compensated for being able to make those decisions. If your not happy with it find another job or start your own business and run it the way you’d like too :)

    • @annat6249
      @annat6249 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@JavierRamirez-ks9ji I agree with you. I am also the bottom of the food chain. I am just a normal worker. I never want to be a lead or a manager because I don’t want the pressure nor great expectations from being a boss. I want a balance work life. So I agree those who work hard should be compensated for their stress and creativity. Most people are just jealous of CEO salary. It is America, you work hard, enjoy that compensation. If people want to get better pay, try harder and get promoted.

    • @JavierRamirez-ks9ji
      @JavierRamirez-ks9ji Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@annat6249 your correct because a CEO gets paid for making hard decisions. If he fails they get heavily criticized. I’ve been an employee and currently a business owner. What I can say is being an employee I had a very balanced life compared to now

    • @XOPOIIIO
      @XOPOIIIO Před 11 měsíci +9

      CEOs can be layed off just like any other employee.

  • @CJ-fh5xq
    @CJ-fh5xq Před 11 měsíci +388

    That's why company loyalty does not matter. Watch out for yourself only.

    • @jihwankim4452
      @jihwankim4452 Před 11 měsíci

      Lmaoooo today generation doesnt have loyalty anyway. Bunch of them just move the company bc other one offered higher paycheck??? It is not one way street. It is two way street. What comes around, goes around

    • @macobuzi
      @macobuzi Před 6 měsíci +5

      "Be loyal to your craft, not your job"

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Of course it matters. Those that don’t have loyalty were probably kicked out long before this unavoidable layoff 🤣.

    • @macobuzi
      @macobuzi Před 6 měsíci

      @@hellosammy4105 Those who don't have loyalty will quit themself long before that for a better company, and those who are loyal will be kicked out of the company, eventually.
      The only difference is unloyal ones will have a better chance of finding a job after the layoff since they already have plenty of interviewing experience. While loyal people will struggle hard for not having an interview for the last 10+ years.

  • @ninabeena83
    @ninabeena83 Před 11 měsíci +1150

    The idea of a virtual termination while they’re simultaneously forcing people to end virtual work situations is INSANE

    • @adesuwa9112
      @adesuwa9112 Před 11 měsíci +53

      Right! I wish they had expanded on the hypocrisy of more companies wanting workers to come into the office more frequently- ending remote working options, while choosing to lay-off/ terminate employees virtually. It doesn’t make sense! It’s ridiculous

    • @ExquisiteKinkyCoils
      @ExquisiteKinkyCoils Před 11 měsíci +26

      All of this💯👏🏾👏🏾! It's quite vindictive. Businesses need to give back their Pandemic Loans as well.

    • @LiveMedia123
      @LiveMedia123 Před 11 měsíci +23

      What is also insane to me that America doesn't have good laws that protect workers. Where I come from it's pretty much against the law to just let someone go.

    • @akabaneg8602
      @akabaneg8602 Před 11 měsíci +2

      omg so true

    • @sthuyen
      @sthuyen Před 11 měsíci +19

      How about the opposite, people fight to work remotely, they should get terminated virtually.

  • @Jspath3
    @Jspath3 Před 11 měsíci +945

    All jobs are temporary, gone are the days of individual company loyalty.

    • @JR-kx4lv
      @JR-kx4lv Před 11 měsíci +55

      Worker loyalty to companies doesn’t exist anymore either so it makes sense, two way street

    • @jayus2033
      @jayus2033 Před 11 měsíci +64

      Actually my McDonald's job gives me bonus ketchup packets for good behavior

    • @mukkaar
      @mukkaar Před 11 měsíci +47

      This is why you need unions.

    • @02nupe
      @02nupe Před 11 měsíci +33

      @@JR-kx4lv companies started it first, so of course it makes sense ppl do the same....

    • @MooseBme
      @MooseBme Před 11 měsíci +2

      When was that slavery?

  • @ThePeterDislikeShow
    @ThePeterDislikeShow Před 11 měsíci +742

    I've learned to treat my full-time job as a series of daily gigs.

    • @luiscuba9188
      @luiscuba9188 Před 11 měsíci +10

      Should it be that way though?🧐

    • @sigfigronath
      @sigfigronath Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@RAM-kt9pm what do you do ?

    • @luiscuba9188
      @luiscuba9188 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@RAM-kt9pm i used to do what you did, its not sustainable for everyone in the longterm majority of the jobs that allow that are either lower paying, or you have to be stepping on people and i dont particularly enjoy that, so thats why i left it, im more comfortable now not always in a distrust panic state as i used to be.

    • @ThePeterDislikeShow
      @ThePeterDislikeShow Před 11 měsíci +5

      @Owen G Another thing I learned is how fragile our ability to work is. I'm a professor and this past week I suffered a mouth sore and several mosquito bites. Nothing life threatening, but it seriously made work that much more uncomfortable.

    • @richardwilliams7415
      @richardwilliams7415 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Companies hire you to solve problems. When you become a problem they let you go.

  • @Jose43312
    @Jose43312 Před 11 měsíci +662

    Better than what my workplace did to 50+ people one Wednesday, they let them enter parking but once they got to the main door their badge didn't work and security told them they had been let go. Humiliating

    • @foster4241
      @foster4241 Před 11 měsíci +118

      wow such disrespect

    • @livingthedream444
      @livingthedream444 Před 11 měsíci +39

      That’s horrible 😢

    • @tracyaskew1651
      @tracyaskew1651 Před 11 měsíci +135

      That happened at my company 15 years ago. We were so confused. Security came down and let a group up to the reception area, where our stuff was just waiting for us in boxes. WOW. One of the older employees (a 70-year-old Part-timer. She was the sweetest lady who just wanted to feel needed) committed suicide a week later. 3 months later, they had the nerve to try and hire some of us back.

    • @orangeSoda35
      @orangeSoda35 Před 11 měsíci +39

      @@tracyaskew1651 omg...

    • @natnat8393
      @natnat8393 Před 11 měsíci +30

      ​@Tracy Askew I am so sorry :( that poor lady

  • @Retired_hag
    @Retired_hag Před 11 měsíci +454

    I worked for a company that was notoriously known for virtually laying off people. It deteriorated morale and made it seem we were just a number. So… I acted just like a number and did the bare minimum. Sure enough, I was laid off along with top performers. I felt happy knowing it was coming and acted selfishly by putting myself first and not a horrible company.

  • @that1guy74
    @that1guy74 Před 11 měsíci +140

    The fact that most companies expect 2+ weeks of notice before you quit is incredible. Why would I give you a warning when I can wake up one day expecting to get to work and be terminated?

    • @melonyogloo
      @melonyogloo Před 11 měsíci +6

      But most companies give employees severance pkg, right?

    • @kekef3620
      @kekef3620 Před 11 měsíci +38

      @@melonyogloo nope! That's usually the very high earning jobs. Most companies will pay you out your remaining PTO. And that's if you're lucky. Most companies leave you with nothing.

    • @yknx4
      @yknx4 Před 11 měsíci +14

      They fired me effective immediately, but was given 4 months severance. But thanks to Canadian work culture, I won't be surprised if in the US they would give you a thanks and a kick in the ass

    • @AlphaGeekgirl
      @AlphaGeekgirl Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@kekef3620 You were talking about America only. The land of the free.

    • @salmankhan-qu5ty
      @salmankhan-qu5ty Před 11 měsíci +1

      Habibi , come to India . 3 month's notice period before quitting !

  • @NotShowingOff
    @NotShowingOff Před 11 měsíci +111

    Everyone here is missing the elephant in the room.
    It’s not about remote work.
    It’s not about virtual layoffs.
    It’s really about at-will employment.
    At-will employment allows companies to fire you for any reason.
    What it also does is it allows them leverage to take away all other benefits, mainly because healthcare and other benefits are ties to employment.

    • @NicholasWhitaker
      @NicholasWhitaker Před 11 měsíci +4

      this is really the big takeaway for me. Know what the situation is that you've agreed to, and prepare accordingly.

    • @jaysant6958
      @jaysant6958 Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you for snapping me back to reality.

    • @valiantvigilante
      @valiantvigilante Před 11 měsíci +6

      @IPFreeley Exactly. So many non-partisan issues like worker's rights should be a rallying cry for ALL Americans. "At will" employment treats employment as a totally even playing field by nature when everyone via common sense knows that's utterly outrageously wrong. The business ALWAYS has more leverage in every respect. PERIOD. Therefore, the worker should always have more leverage when it comes to employer-worker relationship issues. A basic federal form should be completed upon offer of employment that guarentees, at a minimum...3 weeks notice of employment termination, from both the employer AND the employee, a defined salary and benefits, at least 14 days of paid time off a year (not including weekends, holidays, etc). That should be the MINIMUM rights afforded to the employee of ANY job.

    • @jamescrutchfield9237
      @jamescrutchfield9237 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Unionize 💪🏽

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hey, you the people wanted at-will employment. You the people wanted to be able to leave your current job at any time with minimal notice to be able to pursue other opportunities or leave undesirable employment as you see fit. You the people called not letting you leave, ‘Slavery.’ So you get ‘at-will’ resignations, they get at-will firings. Fair is fair. Don’t cry just because you don’t like the other side of the perks you currently enjoy.

  • @alexsteven.m6414
    @alexsteven.m6414 Před 11 měsíci +634

    Inflation is far more harmful to individuals than a collapsing stock or property market because it directly affects people's cost of living, which they immediately feel. It is not surprising that the current market sentiment is extremely pessimistic. In today's economy, assistance is critical if we are to survive.

    • @bernisejedeon5888
      @bernisejedeon5888 Před 11 měsíci +4

      In this moment, when you can use a capable portfolio advisor to passively learn about and experience a fully varied market, it has never been easier to understand how to increase your money. The implications of a rising or declining dollar on assets, in my opinion, are difficult.

    • @valeriepierre9778
      @valeriepierre9778 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@yolanderiche7476 Where may one locate an experienced FA? I like the notion of employing their services, but it's terrible that recent stock market tragedies have started to happen more frequently.

    • @yolanderiche7476
      @yolanderiche7476 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@valeriepierre9778 JEFFREY HAROLD STARR, who I learned about and got in touch with thanks to a CNBC interview. Since then, it has served as the point of entry and departure for the games we have emphasized. A search on the internet can be done if tracking is necessary!..

    • @Deathwatch31
      @Deathwatch31 Před 11 měsíci

      @@yolanderiche7476 JEFFREY banged my wife, I became my wife's boyfriend because of him. He's a true alpha male, thanks JEFFREY

    • @mugglescakesniffer3943
      @mugglescakesniffer3943 Před 11 měsíci

      And people are wondering why young people are not having kids....DUH.

  • @TheBudgetingWife
    @TheBudgetingWife Před 11 měsíci +106

    My husband was in a mass layoff like this in tech in the fall. 2 weeks after coming back from parental leave. Our insurance benefits were expiring as our baby was in the hospital with RSV. It was awful. Grateful he found a new job (outside of tech) within 6 weeks. But the whole situation was terrible. Now any last minute “all company” zoom meeting is triggering. 😵‍💫

    • @krisb-travel
      @krisb-travel Před 11 měsíci +1

      stressful times for all :( i think we're much worse off than our previous generations.

    • @Lost1nTranslation
      @Lost1nTranslation Před 11 měsíci +3

      Yea, corporations don't give a crap about us. I was laid off at the start of the pandemic. Was nearly homeless.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Před 5 měsíci

      I would have consulted an attorney about a discrimination claim.

  • @bhanusM99
    @bhanusM99 Před 11 měsíci +347

    Compared to suddenly getting locked out and getting a mail saying you're laid off, a CEO apologizing personally through a zoom call is so much better.

    • @jayus2033
      @jayus2033 Před 11 měsíci +3

      He should come face to face with the person and comfort inside of eachother

    • @PatrickGotHands
      @PatrickGotHands Před 11 měsíci

      Your not that special your just a rat like everyone else in a rat race

    • @stevechance150
      @stevechance150 Před 11 měsíci +30

      We live in time where there is ZERO loyalty to the employees. And a smart employee should have no loyalty to their corporate employer what so ever. The best way to improve your compensation is to jump ship every 3 years. And always prioritize gaining skills that benefit you over gaining skills that benefit your current employer. If it's a choice between what benefits you and what benefits your corporate employer, always do what benefits you, keeping in mind that your CEO is doing the same.

    • @Kaiyats
      @Kaiyats Před 11 měsíci +10

      @@jayus2033 that’s a lot of people to meet

    • @bdh711
      @bdh711 Před 11 měsíci +1

      The lesser of two evils

  • @rickthomas422
    @rickthomas422 Před 11 měsíci +94

    That one scene in back to the future, where Marty is fired by his boss by video conference, fax and text, while looking at a flat-screen TV that didn't exist for another decade, had to have been written by a time traveler.

    • @ellvtv2314
      @ellvtv2314 Před 11 měsíci +3

      How prescient was that film. Marty relegated to working at a Japanese company with a culture known to abuse its employees shows how far he's fallen in life.

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Rick: Some things were obvious good guesses, re the future, some not so much. We're still not eating rehydrated pizzas, from what I've seen, for example.

  • @Rocanala
    @Rocanala Před 11 měsíci +51

    Never question why most people are not loyal to their employer

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci

      What are you talking about? Anyone knows you can always quit when you have a better offer elsewhere. It’s a free market. It’s basically common sense at this point.

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 2 měsíci

      But why u not loyal tho?

  • @maxgandor3109
    @maxgandor3109 Před 11 měsíci +132

    I just got laid off about 4 weeks ago from a fairly large tech company but they did not lock me out from my work station immediately. I received an email from my work computer about a meeting and an HR representative and my Supervisor was on that meeting. They were empathetic and very helpful. It did sting that i no longer have work that day but didn’t feel humiliated . They offered compensation and severance as well as other helpful resources afterwards which I was grateful for.
    I really liked doing that job and i did see a future at the company but at least they did not blindside me a threw me off right away and had a 1 on 1 talk.

    • @newsarticlereviewskid6630
      @newsarticlereviewskid6630 Před 11 měsíci

      what city or state?

    • @maxgandor3109
      @maxgandor3109 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@newsarticlereviewskid6630 New York city

    • @CrossfitWarrior
      @CrossfitWarrior Před 11 měsíci +2

      The same thing happened to me at the time I was working for a stock broker and that's still considered a start up. It made me feel like I did something bad but just drew the short straw that's all.

    • @gryffbirb
      @gryffbirb Před 11 měsíci +4

      Good on them! I hope where you are now is also a good place.

  • @erroltheotaku
    @erroltheotaku Před 11 měsíci +65

    My company told us 3 months in advance that we were going to be let go, which sucked but I realize now that I could have just been surprised one day, so I'm fortunate my company gave me the chance to prepare.

  • @nhcsuck42
    @nhcsuck42 Před 11 měsíci +280

    What goes around comes around. I hope these companies/executives get the outcomes they deserve for treating people this way

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 Před 11 měsíci +22

      Anana: They do to some extent, eventually, with less motivated workforces, less loyal workforces, etc. But often idiot management can't see that if they save a few bucks in the short term. So it goes.

    • @natnat8393
      @natnat8393 Před 11 měsíci +9

      While that is a comforting thought, the likelihood of that ever happening is nil. Many will get away with it and live happy fulfilling lives

    • @mikezerker6925
      @mikezerker6925 Před 11 měsíci +5

      It’s just business…

    • @useridcn
      @useridcn Před 11 měsíci +2

      Maybe the reality allows them to do so = those who got fired really mean nothing to them.

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Destin5258 pretty much. They leave on a golden parachute

  • @washuotaku
    @washuotaku Před 11 měsíci +68

    Hard to invest in a company when the company does not want to invest in you.

    • @jihwankim4452
      @jihwankim4452 Před 11 měsíci +4

      And when company invested in you so much. They left to competitor street across bc they offer higher paycheck.... Lol wat comes around goes around

    • @JavierRamirez-ks9ji
      @JavierRamirez-ks9ji Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@jihwankim4452 100% true people don’t know that training a new hire can cost the business thousands for them to learn then leave 1 month later for a bigger paycheck after all the resources invested… easier said then done. Business owners take the high risk to create the job nothings guaranteed. Capitalism is great.

    • @abyszero8620
      @abyszero8620 Před 11 měsíci +6

      ​@@JavierRamirez-ks9jiYour argument doesn't hold water. They are never transparent about how much training costs, and will never raise salaries after the employees have paid back the deficit with their higher productivity later.

    • @eckankar7756
      @eckankar7756 Před 11 měsíci

      You invest in you. Never expect your employer to be your mother. Always do your best because that's who you are. It's easier to get that next advancement with an attitude of personal integrity rather than constantly trying to dodge responsibility. They can pick up on that quality quickly.

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci

      What you mean like buying company stock? Oh, you mean actually doing your job? That’s not investment on your part, that’s your job.

  • @tech-bore8839
    @tech-bore8839 Před 11 měsíci +51

    "They don't need to hire a contractor for layoffs" Funny how employers are trying to cut costs, yet are willing to hire an outside company to do the firings for them. That's a special level of stupid.

    • @ShamileII
      @ShamileII Před 11 měsíci +1

      If you hire an employee to do the firing, he costs the company medical, insurance and the company portion of the med/ss tax. A company hired to do the same job is a 100% business deduction.
      We use contractors for everything.

    • @SaintsandSushi
      @SaintsandSushi Před 11 měsíci +1

      What’s stupid about temporary hiring of outside contractors when that means the company doesn’t have to spend money on health benefits, retirement benefits and other benefits that an employee would get. Plus contractors are a tax write off for the company where the employees aren’t.

    • @abyszero8620
      @abyszero8620 Před 11 měsíci +1

      There's a whole movie about it called Up In The Air.

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci

      Lol, maybe for you. But they wouldn’t have done it if it wouldn’t profit them in some way. That’s why they do the hiring and firing and you’re at the other end of the barrel.

  • @portalomus
    @portalomus Před 11 měsíci +31

    I forget that not everyone grew up in a rustbelt town where layoffs were the norm in the 80s and 90s. It taught me to NEVER trust the big companies in town. Watching everyone lose their pensions and the company stock plummet taught me that no company is a guarantee and "safe." The tech layoffs remind me of this, except it's not as bad as it was then.

    • @jeangenie3240
      @jeangenie3240 Před 11 měsíci

      The people from those times are obnoxiously paranoid and they mob people out of the job in fear of another lay off.

  • @CarlosMendez003
    @CarlosMendez003 Před 11 měsíci +110

    This is certainly a new phenomon but should we really be surprised? As a Gen X I've been working in the corporate world since the late 90s. Corporations don't care about their workers... In my 25 years I've seen it all. EVERYONE IS EXPENDABLE!!

    • @ropro9817
      @ropro9817 Před 11 měsíci +6

      I'm also a gen-X-er and have seen the same. Learned the hard way through a few bust cycles that there truly is no such thing as loyalty from a company regardless of how loyal you are to it. LESSON LEARNED.

    • @SuperGGnoRE
      @SuperGGnoRE Před 11 měsíci +1

      Gen X grew up on Pink Floyd right? Makes sense then. People these days ought to have a listen, the lessons are all there.

    • @NicholasWhitaker
      @NicholasWhitaker Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@SuperGGnoRE Time has new meaning for me at this age.

    • @sandpast
      @sandpast Před 11 měsíci

      Facts!!! I've unfortunately seen it all to

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci

      I Honestly prefer it that way. What?Do you really care about your bosses? Do you go out of your way to invite your boss to all your family events and befriend them? Do you care what happens in your bosses’s life? No? Then why do you expect them to care about you beyond paying you for the work that you do? Sheesh. You’d think that a gen X’er would be less self-centered.

  • @AmrXcellent
    @AmrXcellent Před 11 měsíci +84

    of course being let go sucks. And it doesn't make it any better if it is in person or via email... the fact remains that you are being let go. If you agree to remote work, remote interviews, ... then remote firing is in that same bucket.
    Never treat a workplace more than what it is, it is an arrangement. Your boss is not your friend. The company is not your family. Always have a backup plan and always keep building/investing in yourself and keep your options open.

    • @Apexlegends91
      @Apexlegends91 Před 11 měsíci +3

      100% true.

    • @JakoWako
      @JakoWako Před 11 měsíci +2

      If an employee randomly quit without providing two weeks notice then the employer would say they were being unprofessional and are “burning bridges.” It’s fine when the employer does this though?

    • @JoeSmoeisnotmyrealname
      @JoeSmoeisnotmyrealname Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@JakoWako I imagine the people let go were useless so they save $ letting them go asap. You wouldn't do the same if you were the boss getting fat bonuses?

    • @Apexlegends91
      @Apexlegends91 Před 11 měsíci

      @@JakoWako its not fine its just business. if the employee left without a 2 weeks notice he/she knows he doesn’t want to come back so if the employer lets you go without a notice they doesn’t want you back or plan to anyways. it sucks but some businesses doesn’t have the budget to keep you longer than they need to just to give you a notice.

    • @SaintsandSushi
      @SaintsandSushi Před 11 měsíci

      @@JakoWakoI have given resignation notice in jobs with less than two weeks notice. But guess what…the last company I did that did refused to accept my resignation and instead made me a remote worker even though I moved out of the state. I literally have old employers giving me interviews for different and better positions. My skill set and what I can contribute to the company is what makes my old and new employers hire me. All that to say that giving less than two weeks notice is not burning bridges. You literally have to verbally or physically abuse someone in the company to burn bridges.

  • @keltwondaglobal7250
    @keltwondaglobal7250 Před 11 měsíci +21

    Some of these companies literally treat human beings who happens to be employees like inventories. “Oh we out of stock, or this one is not needed” get rid of it . Smh 🤦‍♂️

  • @jia7302
    @jia7302 Před 11 měsíci +38

    There should be a two weeks notice for lay offs

    • @avarice5071
      @avarice5071 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Idk about that because there are people who'd abuse that and act differently. When I gave my boss two weeks notice he was worried I would act crazy on the jobs afterwards(I didn't) and he gave me a exiting bonus for it. Not everyone's like me tho.

    • @moltenink9137
      @moltenink9137 Před 11 měsíci +6

      In Ontario there is. The law is that they either give you notice or pay in lieu of notice plus you get 1 week severence for every year you have worked at the company. I know this cause I'm getting laid off in 2 weeks.

    • @mugglescakesniffer3943
      @mugglescakesniffer3943 Před 11 měsíci

      I think if they are not going to give 2 weeks employees across America when they leave a job at one of these companies should just quit and not even give them notice. See how they like it.

    • @kevinj9270
      @kevinj9270 Před 29 dny

      @@avarice5071 That's why there is gardening leave.

  • @Combat_Medic
    @Combat_Medic Před 11 měsíci +12

    The only time I’ve been fired they did it right in the middle of my shift for everyone to see. It was so humiliating. I would much rather be fired virtually.

  • @sinebar
    @sinebar Před 11 měsíci +20

    Yep that's how I found out in 2021 soon after lockdown was lifted. Went to login and couldn't. For me though I was actually at work. Strangely my employee badge let me in and I went to my office as usual. Tried to login on my computer and it wouldn't let me. I didn't think anything of it and called IT as I had before with computer issues. The IT guy came down and tried to reset my login credentials but he couldn't either. He thought it was network issues and told me to try again later. So I went about my day thinking I still had a job but all the while I was no longer an employee. I told my boss, who was the engineering manager, that I couldn't login to my CAD station and that I had already contacted IT. He asked me what did IT say and I told him. He said: "Probably just a network issue". I went to lunch and came back and now my badge wouldn't work. That's when it started to dawn on me. I called my supervisor, he called HR and they confirmed that I had been let go. After that I enrolled in medical school where I am currently. Probably what I should have done instead of engineering school.

    • @Sunset553
      @Sunset553 Před 11 měsíci +2

      That’s how my last day at work was at a company. I spent my day troubleshooting my termination

    • @robertlunderwood
      @robertlunderwood Před 11 měsíci +5

      They didn't tell your boss that you were let go? That was rude.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Sounds like the Twilight Zone. I’m sorry they did that to you. I hope you’re doing great.

  • @5-1biggiebagextrafries
    @5-1biggiebagextrafries Před 11 měsíci +100

    No truer words have been spoken: Always invest in yourself-make yourself a competitive applicant-never stagnate yourself for an employer

  • @teachatot
    @teachatot Před 11 měsíci +14

    My husband got laid off today by email after working in the company for 17years.Very sad ,didnt expect it coming.

    • @SaintsandSushi
      @SaintsandSushi Před 11 měsíci +5

      This happened to one of my good friends. She got layed of after 17yrs at her tech company. She was a project manager and her job experience didn’t change the outcome. Thankfully after many months she got a job this week in a smaller company in town.

    • @cherylT321
      @cherylT321 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@SaintsandSushiMy friend’s daughter is in her 50’s; she has a high position in her company but I’ve noticed that she’s taken a lot of vacations recently. I said to my friend that she needs to be careful; she’s at that age where corporate starts to think you’re too old and she doesn’t seem to be on the job as much as she used to. She also lives way above her means so if she does get thrown out suddenly, she’ll be in a sorry state because people rarely find another job that pays at the level they were earning!

    • @BoHror933
      @BoHror933 Před 3 měsíci

      soon to be ex husband amirite?

  • @antiapatic
    @antiapatic Před 11 měsíci +17

    Last piece of advice is spot on! Companies don't give a sh*t about you

  • @distortdude80
    @distortdude80 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Rule number one: Don't get too attached to your job. Your employer won't reciprocate the same loyalty you give. They are not a family.

  • @CatEyedGoddess
    @CatEyedGoddess Před 11 měsíci +71

    This is REAL. My company did massive virtual layoffs. All the ppl they laid off were remote workers. I went back into the office 2 years ago because WFH wasn’t my cup a tea. I think that move saved my ass.

    • @paulbaker2615
      @paulbaker2615 Před 11 měsíci +10

      On-site saved you? Not me. I switched to M-F onsite starting in 2022. Also, I was on carer's leave when I got the termination. So regardless of where you work, the new norm is still virtual layoffs.

    • @CatEyedGoddess
      @CatEyedGoddess Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@paulbaker2615 I hear you. I was only speaking about my company because they only laid off remote workers. But I do get laid offs effects people across a wide spectrum. If you haven’t already, I hope you find a better job soon.

    • @jalabi99
      @jalabi99 Před 11 měsíci +8

      Being on-site will not save your ass. It's only putting off the fatal day. They show you no loyalty, so you should return the favor. Looking out for #1 is your top priority.

    • @legendarynoobz
      @legendarynoobz Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@jalabi99 lol with that kind of mind set you are gonna get laid off a lot 😂

    • @jalabi99
      @jalabi99 Před 11 měsíci +7

      @@legendarynoobz this is 2023 - any employer who insists on seeing butts in seats to assuage their own micromanaging egos is a non-starter. It's not that people don't want to work these days, it's that people want to be treated like trustworthy adults. I don't need to be physically located in an office in order to do my work (if that work is stuff that doesn't require your physical presence in order to do it, like almost every software/IT job does these days). Give me a clear set of objectives, give me a timeframe in which to achieve them, and let me get to work. My boss doesn't need to be looking over my shoulder or micromanaging me. So no, with this mindset, I'm not going to be laid off a lot - I'm not going to try to get hired by any such backwards-minded employer in the first place 😂

  • @Sim9
    @Sim9 Před 11 měsíci +36

    Anyone who has seen how callously google treats their users should not be surprised how callously they fire their employees.

    • @jonathanandrew2909
      @jonathanandrew2909 Před 11 měsíci +1

      You mean free food, massages, and onsite gym?

    • @BoHror933
      @BoHror933 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jonathanandrew2909nah spying their customers behind their backs

  • @jonathanbegay92
    @jonathanbegay92 Před 11 měsíci +17

    As a construction worker, I usually only stay on jobs for 3-4 months. If it’s a good job, 6 months.
    The longest time I’ve ever been employed have all been

    • @BoHror933
      @BoHror933 Před 3 měsíci

      bruh you actually produce something. These tech morons do nothing their whole lives.

  • @shrugrug7172
    @shrugrug7172 Před 11 měsíci +48

    Getting laid off by getting locked out of your accounts is way better than commuting an hour and a half to work just to find out you are laid off and then have to drive back home.

    • @indraneel5123
      @indraneel5123 Před 11 měsíci

      Sleep with the hrs daughter. Baam revenge

  • @davidsamuelson2089
    @davidsamuelson2089 Před 11 měsíci +96

    How many of these awful CEO’s took a pay cut? How many still get horribly high bonuses while laying off everyone else? How many were axed without a golden parachute? Sickening.

    • @SwiftySanders
      @SwiftySanders Před 11 měsíci +14

      They over-hired and then rather than take the pay cut themselves because they screwed up, they made employees pay for their mistakes.There needs to be a mandatory $20k severance in the case of a virtual layoff.

    • @richardwilliams7415
      @richardwilliams7415 Před 11 měsíci +12

      Stocker holders are the real villains that nobody ever mentions. Everything CEO's do it to please investors.

    • @odinfatherofthor
      @odinfatherofthor Před 11 měsíci +1

      There is no reason for a CEO to take a pay cut. When their own job is not permanent.

    • @enzom09
      @enzom09 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@Christopher Sanders 20k is probably lower than many employees at Google/MS are getting. I know many people who received anywhere from 3-6months of severance pay. For someone earning 100k, which would be on the lower end for these companies, that's 25-50k.
      I agree that severance pay, in general, starting at 4 months should be the minimum. This would allow employees to find a new job and not be surprised that they can't afford their bills.

    • @johntran1352
      @johntran1352 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@SwiftySanders They take a pay cut to keep those employees for what? to fiddle their thumbs?

  • @christinewatson1989
    @christinewatson1989 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Companies don't see you as a human being and they never have. The impersonal virtual layoffs are MORE respectful in the sense that they're not pretending they care about you.

  • @avres13
    @avres13 Před 11 měsíci +37

    I worked at plenty of places that Would just shutoff their IDs and work accounts. No emails or calls to clarify anything. This was all before Covid and I think it was to prevent a disgruntled employee from entering the building.

    • @Iquey
      @Iquey Před 11 měsíci +5

      Yeah call centers are like that.

    • @jalabi99
      @jalabi99 Před 11 měsíci +2

      The way I see it, if you're so afraid that your employee would physically retaliate against you because you laid them off, then you're bossing wrong 🙃

    • @BoHror933
      @BoHror933 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jalabi99like they care…

  • @ravipatel1301
    @ravipatel1301 Před 11 měsíci +18

    I was one who was impacted by layoffs and it's been 5 months and no luck. It is really really very frustrating and depressing but I believe that getting an opportunity that lasts longer rather than a volatile job is something that I want now. NO FAANG.

  • @chrisaycock5965
    @chrisaycock5965 Před 11 měsíci +33

    This was me at my last company except I was just working and they had a quick zoom and just poof everything got locked out.

  • @ezioaltairac
    @ezioaltairac Před 11 měsíci +153

    If you want to interview and hire someone in person, you can afford to fire them in person.

    • @avarice5071
      @avarice5071 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Nah, they interview you online now as well. Majority of interviews I've done has been over zoom. I rather get fired through an email or zoom

    • @felixthecat2786
      @felixthecat2786 Před 11 měsíci +8

      It does not have to be in person, it just needs to be respectful. Zoom is more respectful than an abrupt email the morning you're supposed to work.

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 Před 11 měsíci +1

      All they care about is maximizing profits. I never met or even talked to my final manger. He was too busy and was in another location. I did briefly talk to him after sending my letter of resignation via email.

    • @sthuyen
      @sthuyen Před 11 měsíci +6

      Then go to work in person

    • @Phelps1111
      @Phelps1111 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Please don't waste my time by calling me into the office just to fire me/downsize.

  • @b12s901
    @b12s901 Před 11 měsíci +31

    Tell me about it. My team survived 4 rounds of layoffs and was told the week before we were let go “look around, if your team is still here that means you are crucial to our operation and can’t be replaced.” A week later I woke up to a layoff notice in my personal email, locked out of everything, and was told they werent giving us a severance package.

    • @jalabi99
      @jalabi99 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Not giving you a severance package after not being two week's notice is illegal, I think. You should check with a labour attorney.

    • @taurahelms3068
      @taurahelms3068 Před 8 měsíci

      Yea, they lie 😞

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hahahahaha

    • @CamJames
      @CamJames Před 6 měsíci +1

      I was told I wasn't expendable after a round of layoffs, then got fired the next Friday. I don't trust anyone and never will. Business is business.

  • @gio3061
    @gio3061 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Whoever made the animation at the start is a legend, alongside the person who decided the shot after the animation should be a shot which fades to the actual person. I LOL'd.

  • @GratitudeDay
    @GratitudeDay Před 11 měsíci +53

    This is how contractors are laid off. No care or consideration. With such a large percentage of the country working as contractors for these corporate monsters, it’s happening to a lot of us.

    • @JakoWako
      @JakoWako Před 11 měsíci +2

      Well yeah, that’s how being a contractor works. They temporarily work for a company and don’t receive regular hours.

    • @GratitudeDay
      @GratitudeDay Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@JakoWako thanks for that incredibly elucidating comment. Very empathetic and helpful. 🙄

    • @AngelicaAngel888_
      @AngelicaAngel888_ Před 11 měsíci

      ​@Jack Bonardi not completely true. It depends on the company you're with and the kind of contractor you are. I worked as a contractor for years with a Mon-Fri 9-5 schedule. It's very common.

    • @GratitudeDay
      @GratitudeDay Před 11 měsíci

      @@AngelicaAngel888_ yes, my hours have always been regular as well. Contractors, in my experience, are just not treated as team members and are incredibly expendable.

    • @JakoWako
      @JakoWako Před 11 měsíci

      @@GratitudeDay Your comment didn’t seem empathetic to me while mine had your best intentions

  • @andrewcause25
    @andrewcause25 Před 11 měsíci +23

    Don’t need an in person conversation.
    Just do a phone or Zoom call with each effected individual and let them know.

  • @chigal0926
    @chigal0926 Před 11 měsíci +2

    That former Google employee was incredibly naive. Google is a job, not some holy grail. I was underemployed due to being laid off from my job before COVID. In fact, I was laid off two months after my father died.
    As Dad was dying the company was going through serious layoff; the CEO was let go. I brushed off my resume to get ready. But I became focused on my dying father.
    Don’t be like that former Google employee. I see myself as an independent contractor, learning new skills and preparing for anything.

  • @JamesJohnson-sl3ui
    @JamesJohnson-sl3ui Před 11 měsíci +29

    The guy at the end gave great advice. If you think for a moment that any company cares about you or your family You are mistaken. You are a means to an end. And that is how you should think about your employer as well. Your job does not define you.

  • @dehoyosrudolph8885
    @dehoyosrudolph8885 Před 11 měsíci +34

    Live by the computer, die by the computer.

  • @trekuhl3966
    @trekuhl3966 Před 6 měsíci +3

    There is no easy way to deliver this message, it’s horrible no matter the format. I was laid off from a position on 01 April 2010, April Fools Day and it was no joke. I should have shown up the next day and said, “you were serious!” One aspect that cushioned the blow came from the CFO, I was given a 4 month severance package and the VP who delivered the message wanted me to take my severance over time. The CFO told me to take it lump sum that day, as he stated given the companies financial difficulties he stated he would not be able to pay the severance over time. I followed his advice, took the lump sum that day and ran away.

  • @brewcider
    @brewcider Před 11 měsíci +7

    at my previous job they had a guy go around the office on friday afternoons with empty boxes and drop them on people's desks who are getting terminated. everyone was stressed out and scared when they saw him on friday afternoons worried he would be we coming to their cube next.

  • @homoshmexual
    @homoshmexual Před 11 měsíci +105

    100% agree with his advice at the end. Companies do not care about us so you cannot either. It is an exchange of labor for money and nothing more. If companies want us to be loyal employees they have to be loyal to us. Don’t accept fealty as the norm.

    • @mugglescakesniffer3943
      @mugglescakesniffer3943 Před 11 měsíci

      Almost sounds like prostitution. The oldest profession!

    • @williamkann1044
      @williamkann1044 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Giving fealty to your company is like when Ned Stark swore fealty to King Joffrey and lost his head anyway

  • @sircharlesmormont9300
    @sircharlesmormont9300 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Companies: "Why is no one loyal anymore?"
    Also companies: "Surprise layoff time! No personal conversation needed."

  • @dunny2210
    @dunny2210 Před 11 měsíci +9

    JPMorgan Chase just laid off First Republic Bank's employees after the takeover. First Republic Bank was a great bank but got caught into the Signature and Silicon Valley collapse fears and panic of customers. I hope similar bank like First Republic will emerge in the future- it treated their customers and employees with dignities and respects.

  • @dominiquesams1757
    @dominiquesams1757 Před 11 měsíci +15

    This is funny. I’ve been said stop being loyal to companies because they aren’t loyal to you. Even when giving a two-week notice. Do what is in your best interest…

    • @abyszero8620
      @abyszero8620 Před 11 měsíci

      Before giving notice, be ready to be locked immediately. Exchange contact info with any friends you want to keep.

  • @Jillousa
    @Jillousa Před 5 měsíci

    I remember the day I got laid off. I received a chat to come for a meeting and then they met with me in person to explain that there were layoffs. I was then offered counseling as an option since they had a counselor standing by and then escorted out. One of my severance package benefits was a 2-day training at a different company on how to look for a job which was so helpful and some severance pay. I really appreciated the first day of that training where the first thing the trainer had us do was share about our struggles with losing our job. They advised that we need to deal with a grief of losing our job so that it doesn't hinder us from moving forward. When others shared how they felt I realized I wasn't alone! Some of my feelings I thought like losing this job felt like losing a loved one and I thought to myself that was crazy but when others shared the same feelings that really helped me so much. That was also helpful.

  • @joeltnt908
    @joeltnt908 Před 11 měsíci +6

    It's incredible that we're still expected to give two week notice when we leave a job, but they can fire at us with an e-mail.

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci

      Uh… no. You can quit any job any time. Giving notice is just etiquette. There is no law against walking off the job on a whim. The company can’t actually do anything. Try it.

    • @joeltnt908
      @joeltnt908 Před 6 měsíci

      @@hellosammy4105 when did I ever say that it was a law? I said it's incredible that we are "expected" I never insinuated that it was obligated.

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci

      @@joeltnt908 Sorry, that whiny tone of yours conveyed a sense of helpless impotence and self pity that is often associated with fools who love victimhood. In any case, you knowing that it is not the law just undermined your own argument. What’s incredible about expecting you to give 2 weeks notice and firing you with an email when you can give no notice and no email and walk off the job? Victimhood declined!

    • @mercedeswilkins5566
      @mercedeswilkins5566 Před 5 měsíci

      I never give notices

  • @_winston_smith_
    @_winston_smith_ Před 11 měsíci +15

    Having survived many layoffs over the years, my perspective is that sharp and quick is better. The rumor mill starts up right away putting everyone under stress for weeks. Imagine contacting 11,000 individuals for a sit down meeting with their manager and trying to keep it under wraps. Having the CEO announce the layoff and then allowing follow up in person meetings for those that want them seems better to me.

    • @littlesongbird1
      @littlesongbird1 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yeah. I was with Allstate when they had layoffs in 2020. It was a nightmare: we first found out about them during a virtual townhall in June where the CEO was drunk and not wearing any pants and let it slip by accident. Then they made us take assessment that september as part of the protocol for determining layoffs. Then we didn't know who was going till I want to say mid October and those that were let go were given 30 day notice. I was not one of the ones laid off but what happened after was such a nightmare because people didn't want to wait to see if they were on the chopping block so people quit that weren't planning to let go so they had a problem with too few employees.

    • @g.Raider
      @g.Raider Před 7 měsíci

      @@littlesongbird1 Imagine quitting your job just to spare yourself the agony of waiting to see if you'll be laid off.
      That is horrible.

  • @kyulee2758
    @kyulee2758 Před 11 měsíci +9

    Tech workers are spoiled too much. Crazy high pays, free lunches, free massages. Now the companies are realizing that.

  • @sailorstarfairy1
    @sailorstarfairy1 Před 11 měsíci +5

    🙄 "but when you, the employee, wants to leave, we, the employer, want a two weeks notice otherwise we will tell your future employer you didn't give notice."

    • @Silverhineko
      @Silverhineko Před 11 měsíci

      Even better is when they want a 4 week notice.
      It would be nice if the law made these things symmetrical - you want a few weeks heads up? So do we. ESPECIALLY since our health care is tied to employment. Ugh

  • @williamsullivan3337
    @williamsullivan3337 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I have friends who work remotely who I asked about this very issue with the added input from me that it’s far easier to layoff someone who you don’t see than the coworker who is working next you. There is a loss of network or banging heads that I think will be a greater loss than anything gained from remote work.

  • @za7529
    @za7529 Před 11 měsíci +7

    LMFAO sponsored by “Workday”

  • @write2pras84
    @write2pras84 Před 11 měsíci +9

    For us, a layoff feels inhumane. I can’t imagine how laborers and child workers across the world must feel when their whole employment and even their whole lives are inhumane. Exposes our whole value system.

    • @thatwierdkiduknow
      @thatwierdkiduknow Před 11 měsíci

      The feeling is anger. I nearly died 3 or 4 times doing this stupid job for half of what the work is worth. Then they tell me that they don't have enough money to keep me employed? Meanwhile, the owner is flying his private plane.
      I wanna smash windows and fight the manager in the parking lot.

  • @josephmartin6219
    @josephmartin6219 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The last speaker said it all: "Invest in yourself cos at the end of the day its only you you can rely on"
    Word!

  • @duffygraham
    @duffygraham Před 11 měsíci +7

    We're a family until the relationship becomes inconvenient for the company.

  • @abhi4u20
    @abhi4u20 Před 11 měsíci +24

    Reason i never take work seriously and my finances seriously 😂😂😂. I really don't care about the company or product or whatever they sell. I only check may salary, do what I've assigned and little thought so i look thoughtful.

  • @echongkan01
    @echongkan01 Před 11 měsíci +12

    I was fired from Accenture after only 3 months in 2020, and the experience left me wondering for a whole year what I had done wrong.

    • @Matt-YT
      @Matt-YT Před 11 měsíci

      Nothing

    • @lazyhomeowner
      @lazyhomeowner Před 11 měsíci +3

      nada. they wanted free or low cost work during your probationary. rinse and repeat.

    • @Matt-YT
      @Matt-YT Před 11 měsíci +1

      Accenture is the McDonald's of consulting

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci

      I’m going to venture a guess and say that it’s because you don’t have an accent.

  • @ClassWarVeteran
    @ClassWarVeteran Před 11 měsíci +10

    Working class solidarity across all job sectors and income levels.

  • @AEARArg
    @AEARArg Před 11 měsíci +36

    Virtual lay-offs is an inexorable consequence of remote work. Don't exaggerate.

    • @luiscuba9188
      @luiscuba9188 Před 11 měsíci +7

      They also happen to inperson you get an email and thas it

    • @nbrockification
      @nbrockification Před 11 měsíci +7

      It is not inexorable. It is definitely possible to stop and prevent. You are the one exaggerating.

    • @TheRockerX
      @TheRockerX Před 11 měsíci +2

      They're also happening to lots of non-remote workers

    • @akj3344
      @akj3344 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@nbrockification why would a company prevent layoffs? Remote workers who are not crucial are a liability to the company.v

  • @rogergeyer9851
    @rogergeyer9851 Před 11 měsíci +3

    If one wants to work virtually, then virtual communications are going to be part of the job.
    And layoffs are one form of corporate communication.
    When I quit my job (early retirement decision) at IBM in 2007 (tired of management, etc), I'd never seen nor spoken to my manager, who worked in another state and hadn't bothered to communicate with any of us in weeks. So how is that any better?
    Virtual work opportunities are a great blessing / alternative. Crying about the occasional trade-off in unconvincing.
    During years of IBM downsizing, I was called by various remote managers over the results of downsizing X, and I never knew for sure if I would be layed off or not. Jobs aren't guaranteed. Life goes on. That has nothing to do with virtual work.

  • @Scott_T_
    @Scott_T_ Před 11 měsíci +8

    What exactly does the statement "I take full responsibility" really mean? Zukerberg didn't get fired, he didn't lose any stock options, he didn't get sanctioned at all.

    • @JakoWako
      @JakoWako Před 11 měsíci

      Responsibility in the sense he owns up to his decision and isn’t blaming anyone else. Typically you try to make amends with the people you’ve wronged, but I guess that’s what unemployment insurance is for!

    • @Scott_T_
      @Scott_T_ Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@JakoWako if he owns up to his decision then he should be fired just like anyone else who makes poor business decisions.

    • @JakoWako
      @JakoWako Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Scott_T_ He really should since the whole Meta transition was his idea and lead by him. The Board of Directors didn’t see it that way.

  • @therealsimdan
    @therealsimdan Před 11 měsíci +109

    What she described as the "ideal" - McDonald's way of handling corporate layoffs, was actually horrible. Announcing layoffs and then not executing on them for months kills morale. Very few are going to work well with the sword of Damocles hanging over their head.

    • @rockjunkie1699
      @rockjunkie1699 Před 11 měsíci +23

      honestly i ffeel like i would just start looking for another job, assuming that I was going to get laid off

    • @michellebowers8652
      @michellebowers8652 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Totally agree. A miserable experience for everyone.

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 Před 11 měsíci +3

      therealsimdan: For many companies with a strategy of downsizing, that's the norm, not just for months but for DECADES. IBM was that way. They'd lay off a percentage of acceptable performers as a matter of COURSE, for example.
      Overall morale, of course, was horrible. It was ridiculous. This was way back in the 1990's and 2000's. It has only gotten worse since then, re people I know still there.

    • @MrRossman2
      @MrRossman2 Před 11 měsíci +18

      I actually disagree. I would rather know it was coming well in advance so I can start looking for another job. I'm guessing that was the intention. Much better than getting notice that your income was getting cut off in two weeks.

    • @enzom09
      @enzom09 Před 11 měsíci +8

      No way, this is the way to do it. I think most employees would rather know several months in advance and have time to plan for it and look for another job, while still earning a paycheck. Its much worse to find yourself suddenly unemployed and collecting an unemployment check that's 1/2 your current pay.

  • @TechFollower
    @TechFollower Před 11 měsíci +12

    Everything is about money nowadays...as nobody cares about anything anymore ...and that's reality of people nowadays

  • @pix_elpimp2772
    @pix_elpimp2772 Před 11 měsíci +28

    It may be beneficial for workers in the tech industry, particularly those employed by large tech companies, to consider #unionizing. Despite the promise of vested stock and other perks, these may not be sufficient compensation for the demands of the job. Additionally, it may be more effective to simply quit rather than provide a traditional two-week notice.

    • @hongwu6463
      @hongwu6463 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yes most employments nowadays are “at will”. You can quit any time and they can fire you any time. No need for that 2-week transition bs.

    • @robertlunderwood
      @robertlunderwood Před 11 měsíci

      Tech workers can't do that. We'll be replaced by H1Bs.

  • @richyr5876
    @richyr5876 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I never stay late at work i work my hours and go work on my self.. outside of work look out for your self always.

  • @TheJulior1983
    @TheJulior1983 Před 11 měsíci +4

    My job laid us off in June 2020, we were devastated by the pandemic, so they cut expenses to the bare minimum to keep us in business and by October 2021, 85-90% of us had a chance to come back to the same position. The companies laying people of now didn’t plan ahead for what might happen long term and now their employees are paying the consequences.

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci

      Lmao, what are they, your parents planning your future? I swear, most of you people think companies are supposed to be daycares or something.

  • @didactic02
    @didactic02 Před 11 měsíci +10

    The most important part of this is the last minute. Invest in yourself and do just what you need to do to get by at these jobs

  • @ChangingHorizons
    @ChangingHorizons Před 11 měsíci +4

    The google employee is saying ... ' i used the gym, i used the bike, i used the massage ... '; i think he should include 'i did not work' in parenthesis. If you are using your perks and not working; the company will find a way to offload you, because you are not someone the company needs.

    • @crazydrifter13
      @crazydrifter13 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Bold of you to assume he didn't work

    • @ChangingHorizons
      @ChangingHorizons Před 11 měsíci +1

      @drifter13 not assuming anything. A person will state his achievement if he has honestly worked. Just think, how do you explain your worklife if someone asks you about it? Do you also speak of your perks or leaves or your leisure at work?

  • @Suitednlooted
    @Suitednlooted Před 11 měsíci +4

    I remember a meeting being set up with me, my manager, and Vice President of our department. I knew something was up, why was I being singled out? Turns out they no longer required my position. They kept me but in a customer service role. Needless to say, I put my 2 weeks a month later. This was my first time experiencing the corporate world and witnessing how replaceable you are.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Před 5 měsíci

      Was the customer service position a demotion?

  • @MrC0MPUT3R
    @MrC0MPUT3R Před 11 měsíci +7

    Companies not treating people like human beings?
    I'm shocked. Shocked!... Well I'm not that shocked...

  • @i_marcus_quintus
    @i_marcus_quintus Před 11 měsíci +43

    If you can't look at someone in the eye and tell them they don't have a job anymore, you shouldn't have the right to fire them in the first place.

    • @mememan9890
      @mememan9890 Před 11 měsíci +2

      So how should someone get fired?

    • @liamloveridge9358
      @liamloveridge9358 Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@mememan9890 he literally said how. You need someone with the leadership skills to have these difficult conversations tactfully and to treat the workers with dignity. For the money that people in leadership positions get payed it should be expected that they do more than the bare minimum of an email or a mass zoom call.

    • @sfrealestatedealmaker6001
      @sfrealestatedealmaker6001 Před 11 měsíci +3

      It’s more efficient to launch peeps over email tho 😂

    • @chumpthetraitor7331
      @chumpthetraitor7331 Před 11 měsíci

      "right to fire"? Do you realize how dumb you sound?

    • @Sunlest
      @Sunlest Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@sfrealestatedealmaker6001 Require workers to be accommodating and professional, but companies will toss employees around without a thought. Worker rights and dignity are gone in the US.

  • @varniitprofessional
    @varniitprofessional Před 11 měsíci +7

    Job termination or layoffs are more painful and traumatizing for me than heartbreaks or death. The latter are inevitable but nobody teaches you how to redirect and refocus and get up again after being out of work or job.

    • @SaintsandSushi
      @SaintsandSushi Před 11 měsíci +1

      That’s not the job of anyone else but yourself. Resilience and refocusing is an internal trait not something someone outside yourself has to teach you. If you don’t have the ability to refocus after loss than that’s an issue with your ability to cope with change and no one can help you with that except a therapist.

    • @Chomper750
      @Chomper750 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@SaintsandSushiLearn how to be empathetic not a sociopath.

  • @JoelReid
    @JoelReid Před 11 měsíci +1

    That closing statement is sad, because it shows he has never experienced a good employer.
    They are out there.

  • @NuSpirit_
    @NuSpirit_ Před 11 měsíci +2

    And that's why I like that if you are laid off here in Europe (or specifically in my country) you have between 1 and 3 months lay off period (depending on how long you worked there - so Paul with 4,5 years would have 2 months) OR they have to sign with you papers you agree with immediate termination.
    That means you have income for another 1-3 months while you work (and they cannot by law force you to agree with immediate termination if you don't want to).

  • @Ohiostategenerationx
    @Ohiostategenerationx Před 11 měsíci +34

    It's a perfect example of why people need to be getting into trades. They never lay off and if they did the person easily just go into business for themselves.

    • @genepires9394
      @genepires9394 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Trades lay off all the time, it’s just easy to jump to different companies

  • @Nhkg17
    @Nhkg17 Před 11 měsíci +12

    In Europe, every redundant employee receives a severance payment of several salaries. So he has a financial buffer to find a new job without hurry. In the US, there are no unions and no proper laws with legal protection for employees.

    • @tintifax8531
      @tintifax8531 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Um, no. There is no Europe-wide regulation or even culture of getting severance. Europe isn't a single country after all. However: at-will employment basically doesn't exist, meaning that contractual notice periods must be observed by both parties. And healthcare isn't linked to employment, as a rule.
      And of course, the US has unions! It's one of the places that pioneered labour unions.

    • @John-nr8vu
      @John-nr8vu Před 11 měsíci

      Where exactly in Europe?

    • @Nhkg17
      @Nhkg17 Před 11 měsíci

      @@John-nr8vu I live in Czech R.. Here is two-month salary minimum severance pay. But if there are layoffs in a large company or if a branch of the company closes altogether, it's usually around 6 salaries.
      In other countries it will be less (usually 2 salaries), but I don't know of a European country where this is not legislated.

  • @jalabi99
    @jalabi99 Před 11 měsíci +1

    At-will employment is the crux of the issue. It makes no sense to me that a company would expect me to give them two weeks' notice when I want to leave but they see no need to give me two weeks' notice when they want me to leave.

  • @PrettyPrincess9609
    @PrettyPrincess9609 Před 11 měsíci +1

    My last job did a massive lay off last year before I started the job. It was a toxic sales job. I left after six weeks and started a new job.

  • @bradleybruvva3021
    @bradleybruvva3021 Před 11 měsíci +8

    I like how the solution at the end is basically just “Realize you’re easily replaceable” instead of pressuring companies to make actual change.

    • @hellosammy4105
      @hellosammy4105 Před 6 měsíci

      Change what? That’s the truth, you are replaceable. What’s the alternative? Pretend you are a precious boy who is soooooo special and we never want to let you go? You basically want all companies to change into your doting mother or something? 🤣.

  • @sk8r4life017
    @sk8r4life017 Před 11 měsíci +16

    Poor guy.... how is he gonna afford his mortgage for his million dollar city apartment, lake house , two cars, and trips to premium grocery stores without his half a million dollar tech salary.... inhumane...

    • @JonFrumTheFirst
      @JonFrumTheFirst Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah - when manufacturing was being gutted in this country, the white collar class didn't bother to notice. What goes around comes around.

    • @anm3037
      @anm3037 Před 11 měsíci

      😂

  • @XOPOIIIO
    @XOPOIIIO Před 11 měsíci +2

    What was given can be taken away, be greatfull that you worked there and benefited for certain time.

  • @talhaiqbal6798
    @talhaiqbal6798 Před 7 měsíci

    The irony of a news agency calling out what the news agency likely does.

  • @KRAFTOMEEZY
    @KRAFTOMEEZY Před 11 měsíci +6

    As a designer, I found it very trash for the bank I worked in to lock me out and deny me of my work. It's been really hard to update my resume and sell myself to other jobs. Not a single person has reached out to me and after 3 months I still don't know what the hell I was fired for.

    • @Fromtheforgottengardens
      @Fromtheforgottengardens Před 4 měsíci

      Hey! What happened? Did you got new job

    • @KRAFTOMEEZY
      @KRAFTOMEEZY Před 4 měsíci

      @@Fromtheforgottengardens No, unfortunately, I had to take up a temp job making a 3rd of my previous pay.

    • @Fromtheforgottengardens
      @Fromtheforgottengardens Před 4 měsíci

      @@KRAFTOMEEZY are you a UI/UX or graphic designer?

    • @KRAFTOMEEZY
      @KRAFTOMEEZY Před 4 měsíci

      @@Fromtheforgottengardens Yes I am!

  • @PD55_
    @PD55_ Před 11 měsíci +7

    This is why you need multiple virtual jobs.

  • @Jen39x
    @Jen39x Před 11 měsíci +1

    Email & texting are a new low. However if you work from home 100% than a virtual meeting is appropriate. And best case is knowing that several months from now we’re laying off. That helps one get your head wrapped around it

  • @MrRicklynch57
    @MrRicklynch57 Před 11 měsíci +2

    They forgot to interview Greg and Tom. They can teach a Masters class in virtual layoffs!

  • @pimpnamedslickback7780
    @pimpnamedslickback7780 Před 11 měsíci +3

    And that's why ladies and gentleman you dont owe them a 2 week notice. You dont owe them a 1 yr commitment. You dont owe them anything. They dont respect you. You dont need to respect them.

  • @saurabhpatil5946
    @saurabhpatil5946 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Keep your loyalty towards your family and friends… Not your workplace.

  • @b.r.wright911
    @b.r.wright911 Před 11 měsíci

    Emails, text messages are so cold, unempathetic and reeks of disassociation. The worst is the firing via telephone. Or on a Monday morning, just as you get to work, although that 12:00 pm call into the conference room on a Friday, sucks too. 😢

  • @itweety21
    @itweety21 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Show no loyalty
    Ever! Get everything they offer n always be ready to move.
    People are just numbers without a face or ❤️ in the corporate world

  • @BoobtitsCats
    @BoobtitsCats Před 11 měsíci +17

    Heres a secret... employers know you don't give a sh*t if their company fails tomorrow. They also really don't give a sh*t about you either.

    • @moltenink9137
      @moltenink9137 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Eployees would give a sh*t if the employer would.

    • @SaintsandSushi
      @SaintsandSushi Před 11 měsíci

      @@moltenink9137nope. Literally unless the company brings you tons of income then you will care for it. How the boss treats you doesn’t change your loyalty to a company that doesn’t belong to you.