Did Tau EVOLVE the Tyranids? | Hive Fleet Gorgon| Warhammer 40k Lore
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In this short video we cover Hive Fleet Gorgon and their invasion of the Tau Empire. Hive Fleet Gorgon was devestating in their adaptation to the Tau's weaponry, and also their strategy. Hive Fleet Gorgon displayed the Tyranids uncanny ability to overcome any foe...
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Iirc the reason the Tau team up with the Imperium was because both of them realize everytime the Tyranids evolved to counter whatever weapons one faction had, they ended up losing whatever weapons and armor they made to fight an earlier enemy.
Thus both the Tau and Imperial Guard took turns fighting the Tyranids and forcing them to constantly evolve and lose weapons and armor repeatedly to the point the Tyranids wasted a lot of bio materials to evolve and we're unable to produce more bugs which both the Tau and Imperial Guard launched a joint attack and finally eliminated the weakened Tyranids.
so using varied tactics and weapons along with a fuck ton of infantry and artillery can in theory defeat the Tyranids. but that's dependant on how willing the galaxy is to unify or at least stop fighting for a couple moment to counter the Tyranids
Smart
@@themagalanium9491 as is typically the case with every faction in 40k... if x factions just got over their petty differences and worked together, y threat would be eradicated in a week...
Chaos + Daemons want to conquer the universe? If the ruinous powers worked together and brought in like minded factions like the dark eldar they'd crush every other faction immediately and it wouldn't even be much of a fight.
If the eldar, tau, imperials and good Necrons worked together they'd crush the forces of chaos and potentially remove them as a threat once and for all...
Hell if single factions like all orks worked together towards a common goal they'd be a significantly stronger faction, perhaps the strongest.
@@vampuricknight1 for the greater good
@@vampuricknight1 if every orc just believed humans didn't exist they would win
Tau: We are the fastest developing species in the galaxy!
Tyranids: That's a bold statement for someone within MUNCHING DISTANCE!
Edit: mispelling.
Is the premisse even true anymore with the constant retcons?
Tau dont even have FTL anymore, no?
@@pantherpopel551 it is always counted from their inception as a species to the point of colonialism to outer planets. From that point of their stone age to what they are now it will be forever true that they are the fastest developing faction
@@ichmich9324 We are talking about a still ongoing situation. Meaning they should have had FTL by a long time now, if they are supposed to be any sort of serious actor in the galaxy.
@@pantherpopel551 funny enough they have it in the Form of the Ether drive that is capable of FTL (Still slower then the warp drive). But what is now the actual Canon at the moment is not my expertise as Necron, Chaos and Ork player.
@panther popel they dont want ftl becahse of its connection with the caos. Instead they choose the saver ather
When people say Tyranids are the biggest threat to the 40k universe this is the reason why, and it's crazy that this intense level of devastation and fighting happens every single time no matter the outcome of the winner.
Meanwhile necrons: are we a joke to you?
Nothing organic can beat them
Save us, Necrons, you're our only hope!
@@DuongNguyen-dx2vq Necrons are too busy fighting themselves, Tyranids are a wholly unified power. Even the Silent King shit himself when he saw them.
@@DuongNguyen-dx2vq necrons aren't an immediate existential threat. They can even be talked too and worker with. If they win the galaxy will be under new management, but if the Tyranids win there won't *be* a galaxy.
laugh in necron
Tyranids are annoying because they basically boil down to the beginning of Toy Story where the Tau is like, "I brought my mech suit witha built-in forcefield" and the Tyranids are just like, "Well I brought my dinosaur who eats forcefield mechsuits" again and again adnauseum.
That’s honestly most of 40k tbh. “My Primarch has the Obama rifle, which one shots your infantry”
“Well my Sorcerer casts a spell that negates one shot kills by Obama rifles”
@@TheLordNovoah yes, the obamachine gun
You know the Tau are desperate when they're launching suicide missions.
You know the Imperium are desperate when they're allying with aliens.
The only faction I think who ca take on the tyranids without worrying about weapon immunity are the necrons. Good luck evolving an immunity to atomic deconstruction.
What about their blades, are their blades the sharpest since they're the most advanced xenos?
@@Guardsman40k not really the whole advantage they have is the technology. Even their blades get useless against other energetic close weapons, because they energiest their blades too just with another Form of that. Against Tyranids always nice, against power swords OK
LMAO
@@ichmich9324 but how...
Wouldn't, for example, necrons' phase sword... well, just phase through?
@@user-vy9mk7um1beven the imperium has this technology in Form of the phase blade of the callidus assassin. But if I remember it correctly it is also important at what high rate of energy or what Form of energy it goes against. A normal Iron halo shield is not even an inconvenience, but really strong psychic shields or power fields and voidshileds can stop it. Also Necrons use Alot of this technology in other forms too like for example in the Warscythe or the claws of a necron Wraith.
A phase weapon against a other phase weapon is also interesting, but sadly for that we don't have Alot of sources but it seems they stop each other. It is also worth noting that the abilities of Phase weapons change. For example the most common definition means it cuts everything, literally everything, but there are also information that it only cuts non-living things so for that it would be possible it only cuts the chitin of a tyranid but not the fleshy parts (which would be in my understanding just be boring and if I remember it correctly the cut everything Definition is the Canon)
Tau: "By the Ethereals! They keep evolving! How does the Imperium deal with these monsters?"
Imperial General: "Can't evolve out of thirty billion artillery shells bub."
Tau and Guardsmen working together is a formidable force
Fire Warrior and Guards backed up with Astartes and Battlesuits
My favorite two factions.
Tyranids will unite all material factions. It’s simply a threat none can ignore.
Except the necrons, they only have to save a handful of planets for they goal to become flesh again.
@@molybdaen11 necron have to make tyranid extinct first, flesh = food
United? Yeah, in their digestive tracks
@@ryuwistelia4908 they cant do that . even the imperium can make the tyrnids go extinct but they also can do that . both have ways to end tyrnanids and eye of the terror but we talking about old technology or something they cant access anymore . so the necrons cant close the eye of terror or beat something more numerous than the stars of the galaxy . they will only be able to defend their tomb worlds most of their other plans cant work . they couldnt even close the eye of the terror when they had the chance they are like that gunstore shopkeeper who have no ammo to sell
Kroot and Tyranids both stabbing and eating each other alive at the same time seeing who can out evolve faster than the other.
Kroots are usually not allowed to eat them in the first place. In fact, thex are strictly forbidden from eating chaos cultists and nyds because they become what they eat.
Actually eating Tyranids is forbidden within Kroot society because its like self-culture genestealer cult to your army
Orks: "Ya think if I take a nasty chomp outta one of 'em. I'd get dem kool choppy bits too?"
Orks: "We gotta find ya a WAAARGH to foight in, man."
This is why i love orks, this totally would be canon.
@SomeFurryGuy1 and since they have their reality warping psychic aura it would be possible
@@KR91201 Yes, that why Octaria Warzone is a mess rn. For the Orks triumph over the Tyranids and a seccond wave of a big fucking Waagh coming
@@somefurryguy1811 Yes, it's cannon, read Octaria Warzone books
Now i could be wrong but i heard the imperial guard werent the only people the tau got to help them i heard they also got the dark eldar necrons and supposedly paid a daemon world to send chaos space marines to help them out aswell.
It's like the saying:
"The Enemy of my Enemy, is a Friend."
"No one's killing going to kill [them] but me."
@@Otomazeman i mean the chaos space marines were literally hired same as the dark eldar the necrons helped because there was a tomb world the tau happened to be occupying and after the necrons killed the tyranids they killed the tau of said planet the only factions that didnt betray the tau after were the imperial guard and chaos funnily enough.
@@jacobweatherford4696 wait, there's a lore to this? Tell me of the subject. I wanna know deep about this.
@@Otomazeman it was in the 5th edition tyranids codex you can find more about it in the dark eldar codex and necron codex aswell as chaos and imperial guard codexes from durring and before 5th edition
@@Otomazeman local necron lord swoop in and kill the Tyranids thus saving the Tau........lol the Tau regard him as a hero but the necro lord just straight up kill them all and went on a adventure.....
Tau: I can't wait for my vacation after this.
Imperial Guard: Your what now?
While I know the the tau are known for being "space communists" I like them. I like how despite having some pretty advance and reasonable technology they still have a hard time dealing with the bigger but more brutal factions. Also I love the idea of the sheer overwhelming power the imperium would have if it had some the same weapon tech as the tau
The tau are more human then the empire.
The Tau have that original spirit of humanity in them…
Imperium in fact is better that Tau in tech level. Don't think that Imperium is that dark.
@@47syorha52 The empire only survives from old blueprints.
If they lose them, they are screwed.
There is very little research because of the fear of the warp.
The tau may have weaker tech but at least they can reliable enhance they technology.
@@molybdaen11 Yes. And not 100%. Primaris for example are new technology, developed under Guilliman's order. And, there are still many blueprints in Imperium, that are superior to Tau. But, they are not widely used
Well, if you're going to look at it like that then all races evolve the tyranids. That's what they do.
the tau are the most advanced in term of technology and thats exactly why gorgon's escaped ships are a big deal . no one cared when tyranids fought the eldars but the lore made it clear its a big issue if the tyrnaids steal the technology of the tau and adapt .
@@LauftFafa Not neccesarily the tech but the knowledge. Eldar tech follows its own logic but Tau tech is extremely grounded and practical compared to The Imperium meaning they'd have to create new redundencies and tactics every time they face Gorgon.
Suicidal strike on the synapse webs. As a dir hard krieg fan I'm almost proud of those blue xenos.
And then everyone laugh their ass off when they heard that Tau “cultural exchange” with Dark Eldar for preparation of the next encounter
Everything evolves the tyranids not just tau
Except Necrons
This is why the orks are so effective at fighting Nids, no matter how evolved you become there will always be a killier choppa
"Damage was done" that's enough for tyranids.
Guys what if all the factions teamed up to stop the tryanids
R.I.P tyranids
Best space bugs ever
If all these fleets are just the "scouts" and the people, like the necron king, who saw whats happening outside the glaxy, are right - no teamup would help anyone. The nids would just go through the galaxy and eat any baby, orc and eldara mom.
But then again, the plot will never meaningfully move on, thanks to GW. And even if it did, some stupid deus ex machina can be thrown in. Like "oh, we found a device, that repelled all nids!" 😄
@@pantherpopel551 damn that's depressing. Same goes for extragalactic Flood in Halo tho
From what i understand the necrons alone are capable of defeating ALL the hivefleets that are in the Galaxy at the moment. Their guns literally desintegrate matter, they have dormant super weapons capable of making stars going supernova and are 100% inorganic, so the nids can't use the defeated necrons to make more nids.
@panther popel the nids were created as a deus ex machina to combat the OPness of 40k factions. All of their lore is hurr durr we are infinite, because we exist outside of the known galaxy. Easily the lamest race in all sci-fi. Even the xenomorphs from Aliens franchise are more interesting. Heck, ill take the Zerg over Tyranids any day.
weren't the tau developing a weapon similar to the necron Gauss flayer? It could change the balance of a battle
So Tyranids were the living embodiment of "counter play" in 40K
Neat! At least Tyranids won't melee anymore, after eating Tau
unlike the kroot they can choose what they take so instead of taking the tau’s fear of melee they take their inteligence or someothing
"Did the Tau cause the tyranids to do what they do everywhere and every time the tyranids are doing something?"
They evolved imunity to plasma weapons... Here i toungt plasma is one of most op weapon
Finally! A video I know the lore on already, here's some expansion on the video for people:
Hive fleet Gorgon attacked the Tau Empire in 899-903.M41, assaulting Sha'draig first, throwing their forces against automated defenses to initially adapt to Tau weaponry, then this video talks about mostly the battle for Sha'draig.
Ka'mais is the next Tau Sept invaded by Hive Fleet Gorgon, which triggered the awakening of a Necron Tomb world on the Moon of the planet. The necrons Tyranids there. The Necrons were met with celebration, the Necrons simply harvested the planet.
After this, all planets between Kai'mais and Ke'lshan were evacuated with minimal loss, but leaving the planets to Hive Fleet Gorgon, with only Ho'sarns evacuation fleet being intercepted by the Hive Fleet, this results in the creation of the Zone of Silence.
Back to Ka'mais, a T'au fleet attacked Hive Fleet Gorgon, performing well, until Bio-ships immune to their tau weaponry retaliated, at which point the T'au retreated, but the T'au had managed to destroy many of the Bio-ships utilised for Tyranids FTL travel, giving Ke'lshan time to prepare.
At Ke'lshan, an Imperial Guard fleet arrived, intended to fight during the Damocles Gulf Crusade/Second Sphere of Expansion, which had ended over 150 years ago, as Hive Fleet Gorgon descended upon Ke'lshan, the T'au and Imperial Guard came to a truce, and fought against Hive Fleet Gorgon, which was successful.
Though the truce broke down once the main force of Tyranids were defeated, allowing some BIo-ships, which contained Hive Fleet Gorgons adaptations to escape and rebuild.
This is what I know for certain about Hive Fleet Gorgons invasion the the Tau Empire. I don't know about them working with Chaos Marines, and I'm pretty sure the T'au working with Dark Eldhar was during skirmishes with a different Hive Fleet, There was also a T'au world that was overtaken by a Genestealer cult, feel free to correct me in the comments.
Ohhhh that’s why the imperium lets the tau live… they need them for tyranid bait.
its not like the imperium could defeat them anyway . reminder that the tau are bordering ultramar and often fight the ultramarines and the tau still win on both land and space . in the most recent battles for that hive world the imperium have sent ultramarines and other chapters and who lot of battlefleets and still lost the only thing they were able to do was to glass their own hive world so the tau cant use it but they ended up killing their troop on the ground more since the tau left . the tau won a real engagment againt a major imperium fleet and army and took a whole sector west of damocles . maybe they are small in size but pretty compact they are like a piece of diamond you cant break
Meanwhile the Necrons
“Bippity boppity boo can you feel your atoms disintegrate To doodoo”
It's both good and bad that these magical Gaunts aren't available in the table top version of 40k. Imagine if these baseline Troops were immune to regular weapon fire, or even just had something like Armor of Contempt? Might be almost as bad if they were stealthy.
I like how the orks fought them until both parties got bored.
They didn’t become immune but super resistance to heat so that the pulse rifle isn’t efficient
man every five seconds those guys almost go extinct and some bigger faction always has to bail them out
your choice of music is sublime
“When in doubt, use more gun”
Nids are always evolving, so the title's question is incredibly silly
This is the shit that kills me. How I ask are the nids a joke in the setting in terms of actual expansion and threat level compared to chaos when the can adapt the WEAKEST combatant Tyranid to be IMMUNE to energy weapons fire... The narrative inconsistency with the Tyranids makes my head spin.
I always imagined it as Effective immunity, like punching someone who is immune to pain, they don't give a shit that you punched them, but you did just punch them, there's physical damage. This "immunity" isn't total, it still does damage, but not enough for the Tyranids to lose the battle.
@@theb3es536 I get it, but that's not my complaint. When Warhammer cares so little about its narrative consistency it drives me to the point of yanking out my hair. Bestest boi deathwatch space marines have mutagenic ammunition that the Tyranids can't adapt to, nor can they do anything about the plagues of nurgle, but they can wholesale create gaunts resistant to the munitions of damn near an entire faction. But it's okay, they weren't space marines or chaos so it's okay that they almost lost. Keyword ALMOST. Somehow they managed a W despite this insane nonsense.
@@PallyKalhi I didn't even know that the Deathwatch had munitions that were always effective against Tyranids, I thought Tyranids were supposed to be adapting against everything, I guess it just goes to show your point lol
@@theb3es536 it's because they're space marines that are cool and important. They get to win because... Space marine. Lol
@@PallyKalhi GW try to make a story where Space Marines aren't definitively the best challenge (Fail)
Would napalm be a effective weapon to deal with tyrainds and would they be able to adapt, my knowledge on their adaptability is nonexistent
Yes.......which is basically very annoying........gotta carry all sort of weapon type unless u kill them fast enough before they can adapt......
Heat is much eazier to adapt to than phisical trauma so yea the whould adapt to ot quite fast posibly olso gaining some level of protection against plasma/las weapons wich could be disasterous
They can’t have all adaptations as the same time, so cycling strategies is the best counter. But be prepared to lose a lot of your forces each time
@@safaricalamari7613 they gain something and lose something...... pretty much to evolve to resistant to something like having a laser resistance carapace the bug lose bit of resistance to kinetic base weaponry........sooo yeah that why we bring all type of weapon meanwhile the Tau op for all energy base weapon....... really the worse match up when the bug suddenly evolve to resist the energy weapon damage.
@@Mr-Ad-196 exactly, they can’t wear two carapaces most of the time. So they choose the most effective resistance. This is why Tao worked with the imperial guard. Lasguns, cannons and pulse weapons made it hard for the Nids to adapt effectively.
Everytime I hear this I wonder if they could not just use weapons in tandem to counter the adaptation.
Like deploy blunt weapons when the tyranids became immune to sharp or heat when they became immune to the cold.
I'm just imagining Kroot making broccoli-eating faces as they incorporate some hormagaunt flesh and are suddenly mildly psychic
It'd be neat if an anti-Nid weapon was developed that fired an energy variable enough that it could adapt as quickly as the evolving Nids. Like the rotating frequency phasers people fight the Borg with in Trek, but with a healthy dose of 40k maximalism
Ah yes, the worst thing to defeat the Tyranids. Friendship.
Or joint alliance... temporary.... momentarily, even
Everybody " NO! The Tyranids are here! "
Orks " Yey da bugs iz back lads! Waaaaghhhh! "
The way the Tau beat back Gorgon was by figuring out that the rapid evolution of its critters came at the cost of less production of larger monsters such as Carnifexes, Tyrants or Trygons.
They started to focus on destroying the larger bioforms
Tau soldier: So what are your plans after the war?
Imperial Guard: After the war?
Tau vs Hivefleet Gorgon reminds me of the Federation vs the Borg from Star Trek as each side are constantly adapting to overcome the other side
Hive Fleet Gorgon countered by deploying Hormogaunts that got 5 feet away from the Tau, they were entirely helpless after this
Why don't the nids just evolve a white metal carapace and radiators to counter lasrifles?
Like, lasrifles just deposit heat through light to vaporize what it hits. So if you coat your troops in a white or mirror paint you could minimize absorbtion. Then add something that transports heat (liquid metals are amazing at that, but any solid metal will do too) and a radiator and you can dissipate the heat you do absorb into the local atmosphere.
Hell, they could also use combustive shielding (just a coating that burns away to tranaport the heat off) to survive more hits.
They'd need the biological material in order to make this, and then they'd need to make it practical to apply to as many forces as they use, so pretty much, its a cost/benefit analysis, and it doesn't guarantee protection from other sources of attack, immunity to Lasguns don't mean immunity to artillery, it's a push and pull game of adaptation.
“Did the ____ accidentally evolve the tyranids?”
The answer is always yes.
When the Tau start punching they've lost
Every species unwillingly evolves Tyranids. That's just what Tyranids do. They adapt.
That's really cool! I should rewrite my Tyranid lore so the swarm gets routed by how different each planet fights.
Love the music really gives me the 40k vibes
If a Lasgun can punch throw solid concrete like it’s nothing but is still dwarfed by the Pulse Rifle, I do not want to know how tough the gaunt hides were
The Tau are cool here honestly.
Bro music name
"Nhon Nhon Nhon" - The Hive Mind, probably.
Melee is essential in 40K
EVERYONE unwillingly evolves the Tyranids.
Tau, the fun police of 40K.
imperials: those tau guns are horrifying!
tyranid: plasma? finaly, some real food!
Mcguffin levels over 9000
Did they just... become a Space Chameleon?
That crazy, and completely a big nightmare
so just every tyranid assault ever
If im not mistaken, the Necrons are currently waging war against the Nids.
Necrons are maybe the only xenos where the Nids get a net loss in biomass no matter what.
Even the Necron Gauss Rifle can instantly kill Nids because it's a deatomizer.
And Nids can't transform Necrons into biomass because Necrodermis isn't viable
Not just the tau... every enemy
Just have the orcs and the Tyranids go after each other
Tyranids evolve to be immune to all Tau weapons. Ultraviolet lasers still work fine tho.
This is probably why the Tau developed the handheld railguns.
It is physically impossible to become immune to pulse rifle fire
I keep hearing stories about the Tau adapting to Tyranids and I just go, yeah? Like learning how to fight in melee?
Question why would you go into melee with a 5 meter tall apex predator with blades for hands and trained from birth
@@oscarandreas1431 cause Warhammer 40k and factions like the guard are scary due to the number of dice they roll
@@oscarandreas1431 40K Faction reason list.
Orks: Only one thing betta den daka is punchin or kickin.
Space Marines: These weapons are gifts from the god emperor so fight or be killed for heresy and let the meat shield go first.
Imperial Guard: Meat shield or shot for treason.
Aeldar: We are so much faster and better than every one lets style on them and use swords.
Dark Aeldar: Extreme need to fufill their bdsm fetish lifestyle.
Harlequin (The community college Aeldar theatre troupe): Its all a big play and is apart of their master plan.
Exodite: No one cares about the Exodites certainly not Games Workshop.
Adeptus Mechanicus: I didn't give myself five extra serrated limbs to not use them.
Necrons: Don't feel fear, cannot die, made of self repairing living metal, and have the best tech in the galaxy.
Chaos: Immaterial demons that just respawn on death and are happy to abuse it.
I think that's everyone.
@@detectivefoxley9912 thats a fair assesment
@@oscarandreas1431 I wish they would do something more with the exodites
Funniest part is the Tyranids ran rampant through Tau space with what the Imperium would call a minor splinter tendril.
Tau - we tried every fancy tactics we can think of
Guard - they adapt to fancy tactics, drown them in blood, theirs or our own!
Tyranid adaption. Better known as plot armor.
The Nids had to use hormagaunts because any of the bigger monsters where blasted apart by rail rifles.
So like, are tyranids and necrons just chill? I dont want my spooky robo egyptians to get munched on man
I'd say Tyranids just evolve based on ANY faction they are fighting over time. Just gotta hope the hive fleet rolling into your neighborhood isn't the one made to crush your factions. (I love the Chaos killing Tyranid fleet)
Hormagaunts, teenagers?
Did the Tyranids meet a new enemy? Then yes, they evolved. Duh...
Every Imperial win is still a loss and every Tyranid loss is still a win. Tyranids will be basically invincible before they reach Terra.
Heresy guardsmen.
Tyranids eating Tau: ... Meh. Nothing remarkable, just bio materia to produce soldiers.
Everyone evolves tyranids all the time, that's their whole deal.
The Tau evolved them in the same way everyone does.
Tyranids can adapt against fire arm, but not against... FRENSHIP !
No joke if most, the alliance of all major species of the galaxy could be the only thing who could stop the Tyranids. To bad they are too proud to do that
Everyone evolves the tyranids even the orks do
What about the tyrannies that have been fights the orcs in the Octarius sector they must have some heavy duty units evolved to take out those big boys .
More like did the Tyranids do Tyranid things
I don't think I could ever play tabletop with a lore-accurate Tyranid player. "Okay that move works, but now my Tyranids have evolved so that doesn't work anymore and you have to keep coming up with completely unique ways to fight me."
I mean-- I'd be so tempted to punch them in the throat.
I had an army that could do that actually.
I used magnets instead of glue, so that all the limbs of my nids could be swapped at will.
Round 1 I might be melee heavy, or swarm heavy, or maybe just the thick boy Carnifexes.
Round 2 whether I won or lost, I knew what your army was made up of, and general strategy, and could very quickly re-adapt my entire army. Suddenly all those Termagaunts are Hormagaunts, and vice versa, and my Scything Talon Fexes have Crushing claws and Venom Cannons now,
And Round 3 I could do it all over again to counter-play any new plan that was schemed up in the previous one.
Was lots of fun, and saved a boatload of money on models. Still have the army up on a shelf in a little Diorama with my IG army.
@@HauntingSpectre 300 IQ plays.
Wait....so we only needs to attack them with different damage types?
Holy crap it's just bacteria with extra steps
So tyranids basically outsmarted bullet.
Everyone evolves the Tyranids
Tau rapidly changes tactics and tech nids keep evolving. Calls up that guard how do you beat them? If: *shrugs attrition and genocide
There is way around it. If they were to suddenly fight....The Imperium. They'd more than likely lose. Nids cant adjust on the fly......like alot of other factions at times
No, they're extra-galactic and the Tau are babies.
I think with Tau, Squats Beastmen and Kroot being a thing in the 40k lore, there should be models that are inspired by those. Like the biovore was evolved from Ork DNA, there should be more nids.
Everyone unwillingly evolves Tyranids
"Deployed Gaunts immune to pulse rifle fire'
So how tf to do you become immune to weapons that have been noted to put holes in space marines?
To answer the question of whether they evolved tyranids the answer is yeah duh, the tyranids entire schtick is that they keep making new strains to take over worlds
Incredible oversimplification, tldr common tau W
Just some hungry bois trying to get their snacks