House of the Dragon 2x08 'The Queen Who Ever Was' REACTION
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If I was Aemond I would be like hey Uncle Daemon, can we fight somewhere else except Harrenhal
I find it kinda funny that everyone calls Aegon a rapist, yet most of the GoT and HoTD "heroes" are rapists too and yet they overlook it. Let's look at people like Robert for example, the dude didn't just have bastards with willing women.
90℅ men in westeros are rapists yes
Exactly, also let's not forget about Jamie, Khal Drogo and book Tyrion(the worst of them).
Nobody ever praises or talks about Robert in the slightest
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Tyrion and Robert were not shown as rapists in the show. I think people should’ve been more critical of Tyrion and Khal Drogo. But also the book is pretty critical of book Tyrion. His act is not portrayed as likable. I think it’s valid to say people should have been more critical of Jamie. But this isn’t a defense of Aegon. It’s a condemnation of past characters.
Aegon is clearly the best character of the season. Everyone else was boring.
17:52 Also, Helaena is wearing the same dress in both Daemon's vision and the scene with Aemond on the balcony. I too think she was actually in the vision
Alicent, the worst mother and human on the planet.
Imagine your mother puts all these evil ideas in your head that the family is in danger if Rhaenyra becomes queen, and then, after SHE crowns her son (who never wanted to be king), she goes to the enemy to sell you and your brothers because she has suddenly become a pacifist.
Stupid ass writing. Season was nothing but filler garbage.
the way she didn't crown her son, it was the council who decided he should be the king instead of Rhaenyra even before Alicent said what Visery's said...
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Because Viserys Targaryen made serious mistakes beforehand. However, that does not change the fact that Alicent is a very bad mother.
In my opinion, she is even the most malevolent character of all.
@@3pcgi959 What did you want her to do? She was a teen mom, forced to get pregnant with a man she didn't like and forced to be a mother. Her youngest son has the same age as Rhaenyra's oldest son. No one helped her raise her children, not even her husband and father of those children. One ended up being a rapist, the other one burned his own brother. What did you want her to do? How is she malevolent? She explained pretty well on the last episode, she just did what she was told to do so, not what she wanted to do.
@@radishmiri3137 Stop defending her. Thousands have died because of their actions. It's disgusting.
No none of the meetings between Rhaenyra and alicent happened. They have made Alicent a main character where in the book she’s more of a side and Aegon is a main so they have to have her do something so the meetings make sense that way I guess 😂
Lohar will only sail with a man that bested him/her (?) at mud wrestling.
This implies he/she is the weakest mud wrestler in the entire fleet.
It was supposed to be 10 episodes but due to HBO budget issues, they were told last minute it needed to be 8 episodes right before they started filming. The writer’s strike further contributed.
Books do not always translate into good TV point blank. It is been proven over and over and over again that taking a book and just copying and pasting it into a movie does not all the time work well it’s way they don’t do it.
The wooden throne that Helaena talks about to Aegon, would hypothetically mean a chair made specifically for him since he is no longer fit to sit on the Iron Throne. Alicent agrees with her son's death, because Rheynera told her to choose between her own son, who would be just one person to die, or burning King's Landing along with the people.
She meant the Driftwood Throne. I'm not gonna say anything more xD
@@ziomczan5794 She didnt, what are you waffling about
@@ziomczan5794 Well she didnt.
NO that's not what it means. Aegon will later fight against another dragon and will break his legs, so he will sit on a wheelchair after retaking the throne.
@@TheDream6842 not a wheelchair, he sits in a wooden chair(throne) at the stairs of the iron throne cause he cant climb it anymore
rare reactor W for not immediately cheering on the idea of Alicent throwing Aegon under the bus. Can't stand people actually taking the whole Team B vs. Team G to heart and not having any sympathy for either side.
Umbrella acadamy next? Awesome. Nothing beats that dance-off hallucination, to Footloose, in the last season.
A lot of people correctly point out that Alicent is a bad mother. And I think she even realizes that. But being a good mother isn’t sticking by their side as they fight a war that will kill thousands or standing by while your child acts as a rapist and enables child abuse through fighting pits. Alicent failed to raise her sons but she isn’t wrong that they may be beyond saving.
There are major differences between the book and show adaptations of all characters. And the show characters have a lot more depth than the book characters. The book is written to be an incredibly biased historical textbook. But it doesn’t have interpersonal drama or character complexity or private conversations. Alicent is written to be a stereotypical one dimensional evil step mother. Rhaenyra is written to be incompetent and powerless while the men around her make all the decisions. Aemond is portrayed as mercilessly murdering Lucerys on purpose. And the books don’t give Aegon much depth either.
my guess, (haven't read the book) wooden throne is a wheelchair he gets built for him.
(i have read the book) Are you Helenae, the way you kinda predict the future)
You are right because him and his dragon Sunfyre will fight later and he will break his legs.
Larissa I was just like you 😭 I just miss Dany so much
Aegon is not a rapist. In the books he is a creepy guy, but no full on rapist. Yet the show portrays him like that. Yet Rhaenyra's evil deed of mercilessly killing her husband is changed.
And when Rhaenyra abused het power to sleep with her kingsguard. Nobody talks about that. If the genders were swapped everybody would condemn Cole then.
And also saying somebody should be mutilated and in constant pain for the rest of their life made for a mistake in his youth is just so stupid. That is why we don't do that anymore. We used to geld rapists, we don't anymore because it is barbaric.
And don't forget Daemon did the same (with underage girls). It is said they spared the virgins for him. Yet nobody looks at that do they.
I think a wooden throne is referring to ª wheelchair like brans… cause he can’t walk
Not referring to bran. She meant Aegon but thatd be spoilers
Many arguably forget that GoT, in general terms, isn’t really about action or war (even though they do those things extremely well). It’s about the characters, their relationships, and of course the politics and complexities the world. Without those fleshed out aspects, the occasional battles and action sequences would have no weight or impact. Historically speaking, the finales of GoT were seldom action packed.
In the end, HotD and GoT remain among the best television series ever, comparable really only to themselves.
what they have done with alicent and helaena is so bizarre
08:42 the face on that tree is supposed to be modeled after George RR Martin's face. When Daemon touches it, he is getting Game of Thrones spoilers straight from the source.
So...a question
Where is corlys's army? They are gonna fight the essos pirates with just one ship?
And why there is no dragon with them? Shouldn't Rhaenyra sent one with them?
I had so many questions that left unanswered
Like where is criston Cole will going or Jason lannister destination which left unanswered
Corlys said that his ship will be joining the blockade. His army is the blockade. Just needed to repair his ship.
Last episode Aemond told Cole to go to Harrenhall.
They also mentioned last episode lol that Jason lannister is going to harrenhall so that his army and coles can fight Daemon on two fronts
His fleet is spread across the gullet blockading it, that's bad because the triarchy is going to arrive with 90 ships ready for battle while Corlys fleet is scattered everywhere. Cole and Jason are going to Harrenhal. Thats been mentioned multiple times. In fact for Cristan there was a whole scene around it. People really dont pay attention.
Thought it was a great episode but very weak as a finale
once they announced there will be a season 3, it is kinda expected that they will extend it more. other people expecting a lot of dragon fights but this is like GOT, political drama genre.
Can you do the series Firefly, and it's movie Serenity? It's only 14 episodes, but it's good.
HBO shortened the episodes to 8 due to writers strike & budgetary matters. It was to late to rework so ep 9&10 will be rewritten for season 3 & season 4 will be the final season
A very logical analysis (not all good or bad). Well done. =)
There were several excellent scenes but the way they paced and executed this episode (and season in general) has just left me with the feeling that I don't care if it ever comes back. I will watch but it just doesn't feel like something to look forward to after this season
I don't care about the reviews, I pick this final scene over a battle any day. This was one of my favorite scenes in the whole of GOT. I do get people's frustration but that's more of a criticism of the season as a whole and not really about this episode. Most people actually seem to think the episode itself is amazing, they're just dissapointed they didn't get a battle and unfortunatly this episode now becomes the target for that frustration. Makes me sad.
The wooden throne is the wheelchair because Aegon will fight on dragon later and break his legs.
No, Alicent didn’t see Rhaenyra like that in the book as similar to the first time, if it actually happened, Rhaenyra would have likely called for guards and had Alicent killed right then and there.
I’m glad you’re enjoying the series. Personally for me, I enjoyed the first half of the season but thought this latter half was not well paced and didn’t agree with some of the narrative decisions. Just my opinion though. Either way, season 1 was a stronger season than season 2 IMO
this is not a finale... more like a trailer for season 3
Ja die scene gebeurt in DEZE episode wel in het boek . Alleen niet dat Rhaenyra naar Kingslanding ging maar Alicent ging wel naar Dragonstone maar ze had een ander voorstel : Laat Aegon Koning zijn van Old town , Casterly Rock en Storms end (de houses aan zijn kant) en laat jou de Queen zijn van de rest van Westeros laat ons zo in vrede leven. Maar Rhaenyra zei "Nee daar is het te laat voor" en stuurde haar terug naar Kings Landing waar ze later gevangen werd genomen door Rhaenyra nadat ze de troon krijgt maar weet niet zeker of ze dat gaan aanpassen in de show
Ik heb het boek meerdere keren gelezen en Alicent gaat niet naar Dragonstone in het boek dus weet niet waar je dat hebt gelezen.
The scene you're describing happens in King's Landing, after Rhaenyra takes the city.
I am sorry but I do not get all these reactions people are giving when GOT’s are shown. We don’t need the continuous comparisons. Let this show stand alone.
Ik heb dit gezien in Pathé Spuimarkt. Jammer dat er niet echt epische gevechten waren, behalve het grappige modderbad.
To think we hated the other episode because of a girl on girl kiss? Like who doesnt like seeing that stuff? Problem was it didnt make any sense in the story
Lol like both characters didn't even bring it up its like it never happened 💀
How poor you love the Stark soldiers, maybe the Starks are honorable, but how did you see the Stark soldiers, didn't you see in the eighth season, how they looted Westeros, how they killed people, no, you don't see because you're blind and you don't want to see the dark truths of your favorite family.
Im honestly really upset that this is the finale we get before waiting 2 years. We ended S1 with everyone preparing for war. How are we ending S2 with everyone still preparing for war? And I don’t wanna hear any of that “character development” bullshit that you people here have been using to justify the slow pace for WEEKS. Like Daemon and Rhaenyra’s storylines this season weren’t utterly repetitive and dull (“wHaT woULd yOu hAvE me dO “) Alicent’s dumbass selling out her entire family who have no idea and are marching to their deaths and Heleana spoiling the entire show. I don't even know how Otto end up in a cell man!! You cannot convince me all this couldn’t have been the first half of a 10 episode season.
HBO fumble up big time. To the writers of this show, you suck.
you are so Beautiful Larissa❤
Sad thing, is Art is subjective.
It's up to viewers, what they see.
Not what people know.
When reading any book, or seeing any film, how you come away with a sense of experience, and expectation.
It subverts everything someone else may feel.
Yet it's not about how a group may gather as the storm's lash.
The writing is still turning.
The story unfolds, it's just people have no patience in which to except change, or different out comes then what is already on the page.
But the Character's lives are what matters, and direction and interpretation of story is up to the viewer to proceed with indifference, or judge, complain and misinterpret presentation.
But Art is subjective.
It subverts original content, to make for a more lush tapestry of time...
As we watch and cast disparaging dangerous stains upon others for their creative visions, and lay out a more flushed out representation of their ebb and flow. The editing is a weave in which the story can tell the viewer, just exactly what is needed, to leave you wondering, in anticipation, for the next spill of tale or visual stimulation.
It is in Art that questions arise, but through equal devotion, and faith in the information and intent, given thru the love of Character's and story, we learn so much more then original content couldn't.
The series leaves you desperately seeking the gods wood for answers, but maybe we are not meant to.
Would it be so bad, to just free fall to the end, with the Character's shaped and formed, in the way Cinema gives us, then we are able to be as suspect, or jeer effective subjugation, mistold by those who are bitter, when story is not individual enjoyment. But the excitement of a fresh presentation, and perspective?
Artists don't fill they're canvases to please others, they just paint...
Same as the amazing tapestry that is woven fought the think less battles to
be, have been.
We are but the small folk, feeling the flames.
The toil, the wretched spectacular that brought the Dragons down...
Not built their kingdom of Valeria, back up.
The Royal farce that holds the beast, and unfailing tempests back.
But history is written over and over, and who can say what account there was to truly believe were accountable for such events, when this history, never truly was anything but a tale imagined and taken to pen, then screen.
People really shouldn't be surprised that nothing works out the way they have already thought it happened, when they're reading the unreliable accounts of a Maister, and a fool.
The film leads us away from such faltered tellings, and instead we join the story, as it is woven by the loving Artist's hand instead.
We could trust it even more.
In Subjective interpretation, we are allowed to feel emotions, and the story is there for for the individual to appreciate, or not...
This is what the story even recounters for us.
Not to be mercilessly torn apart, in the retelling, but to accept the weight with which the filming of such a masterwork is laid out before you...
Thank you Larissa, I appreciate your interpretation and Reactions.
It's hard todaze to please anyone, but bitter taste, only leaves you hoping to experience the same old expectations.
But you miss the entire scope of what you dreamt might be possible, and for that Artist's meaning behind more then just blood stained carpets wilt allow, the Details to truly combine, and create for you a more thought out representation of the original concepts R.R Martin had written, and to give us a new way of seeing it, and feeling it fully, realized.
But that is and should be as it is.
Not muddied by the Mummers and short sighted.
Who rather dissect then reflect.
Art.
Or the Artists rendition.
❤️🩹🗡️👁️
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A story about Dragons, and Magical beings from Valeria, Artful creations.
Think before you rip it all down.
Blessings sent Larissa
Some day, they may realize how ridiculous they are.
Dreams laid by the thoughts of Men, are brought to cinematic illusion.
Art.❤️🩹 Love it or don't.
But it is beautiful and disasterous either way.
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Why are you emotional to see a shot of Daenerys her back. I don't get it.
To be honest i never liked her in Game of Thrones. But this is just absurd and baffling. I was more impressed how they got Brynden Rivers almost right. Maybe a bit to young, but he got the birthmark at least.
Every time rhaenyra and alicent are both on screen it makes me sad, hurt
Their relationship is a clear upgrade from the books
It was so powerful when Alicent sold out her whole family plus the soldiers that fight for her family apart from Haelena. To answer your question no Alicent in the books is 20 years older than Rhaenyra and she doesn't do anything after the crowning of Aegon. She is almost like Cersei in the sense that she actually loves her children and doesn't think of them as burdens. Book Rhaenyra would have killed her in an instant if they ever met like in this episode, book Rhaenyra is also like Cersei. The reason this episode is bad apart from slow pacing is the fact that they brought up the Horror that is Season 8. There was no point in that vision, no point to show Daenerys cuz she does absolutely nothing in the Long Night, Arya is the one that ends the White Walker threat. Pretty bad season overall, they literally have the book, they can just copy-paste to the show but the writers again think they can write better than the writer aka GRRM.
Alicent is nine years older than Rhaenyra.
Also, they make *everything* about and around the a prophecy, characters have no agency. Dreams and prophecies in ASoIaF are vague and unreliable. As is Helaena, but this episode she literally spoils what is going to happen.
Agency matters because Viserys and Rhaenyra both believe in the prophecy and allow it to predetermine every single step of them. I am still convinced that the show will also be another cautionary tale about prophecies. Even though the story with Daemon in Harrenhall, points at a different direction. Daemon is an interesting case as I think he would have bent the knee even without the last revelation.
The idea that Dany did not do anything is wrong, IMHO. Without Dany and Jon, neither Bran nor Arya would have managed to defeat the Night King.
Don't be another person who thinks that everything should be followed exactly as it is written in the books... that would never be possible in life. To be ironic, I say: if a series were to be followed literally according to the books, you would have to imagine, 879 seasons with 8 episodes each season would give 7032 episodes. Don't go down that path, which is totally ridiculous and impossible to do... actors would die, some of us ourselves, and the series wouldn't even be halfway through.
alicent was 10 years older than rhaenyra not 20....but overall I agree with your point
predictions for next season-
1. rhaenyra imprisons alicent once she finds aegon is missing in KL
2. helaena and rhaenyra become close. with the help of her dreams, helaena finds aegon's location and she informs it to rhaenyra
3. aemond is continously tortured in harrenhal by alys rivers. by end of season, he becomes mad and drowns with vhagar in the lake.
4. to win back the queens trust, alicent helps rhaenyra to track down daeron. he is killed by jace and baela
5. aegon and larys are captured and brought to KL and publicly executed
6. daemon kills alicent because he doesnt trust her.
7. rhaenyra rules happily with her consorts daemon and mysaria
stupidest thing I’ve ever read
Number 1
@@lucasbelmonte2832 which one is right?
Your predictions are biased and highly illogical.
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