Another awesome SCIENCE FICTION dealer warehouse visit & book haul, this time with Jules Burt!
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- čas přidán 4. 03. 2023
- After visiting my friend Bob- a longtime SF collector and casual dealer - in January, I knew I'd have to return in February with my other bibliomaniac chum and former bookselling colleague Jules Burt. So here's another look at Bob's warehouse in Dorset and the books I hauled this time. Jules' video on the same subject launches simultaneously with this one, don't miss it!
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To see Jules Burt's video of our visit, click czcams.com/video/WrXIyVUDAig/video.html
Hey, I just wanted to say I love your videos. I never thought that I would be open to SF but your videos along with, Matt from bookpilled, have opened my eyes. I've got tons of your recommendations and would love to see more from you. Thanks once again.
Well, there are a couple of hundred other SF videos here and more to come! Glad you are enjoying it!
Magnificent haul. Green with envy.
What an Haul Stephen Great Stuff,especially the New Worlds and the PJF.I will try to control my envy!
Well Victor, a Barry Malzberg book is coming your way tomorrow, mate!
Proper terminology when speaking about SFF? Unspeakably excited about this.
Yep, we're going to attack this with gusto!
@@outlawbookselleroriginal 100%!! I need the phrase "French flaps" to disappear from the book business lexicon
@@paulm8253 For a few generations "French" as an adjective implied prurient sexual content (at least to the petit burgeois anglophonic diaspora in the States) ie "French Postcards". "French Flaps" therefore always conjures unexpectedly inappropriate imagery. You're right, this must be stopped! Think of the children!
@@paulm8253 -You said it -amateurs. It's 'paperback inw raps' as you and all the good guys know!
I appreciate the shout-out Steve, but I fear it makes me sound somewhat notorious as well. 😅
And you are correct, it is some sort of a problem I have. 😉 I believe we share a common source of some peccadilloes : young people on booktube waxing nostalgic about things they know nothing about. (For example, well quaffed middle Americans under 20 going on about Gollancz being the most authoritative source for all things science fiction based upon where-ever they were sent by an algorithm.)
I love folks of your generation ( just a hair older than mine) talking about glowing memories of amazing books found in their local libraries - BRILLIANT!
In the States the need to market with exciting rather than stolid covers is much more indicative of the history of the market. In horror, detective and science fiction, our marketplace seemed to hold onto its pulpy-er antecedents. My childhood memories of going to the local library are filled with lurid depictions of surrealist landscapes, queer flora that promised unexplored realities, danger, daring do, ancient secrets, and the mining of inner space as well as outer. Blish's Star Trek adaptations were probably the most stolid of the bunch. Plain, text only covers were the mark of the dehumanizing corporatization to come. They **appeared** to be just entering the market at the time, but my youthful perspective was by nature skewed to bias. They promised no wonder, only a similarity to business textbooks. The only such books with any emotional pull A) Had that 70s "computer font" and B) were about UFOs and their connections to Bigfoot built pyramids. So - to be clear - I don't begrudge anyone their pleasant, nostalgic associations ( and hate to come across as if I do) but I find Americans of my demographic strangely lacking representation on Book Tube, and I know that they're out there; from years of traveling around the US used book hunting, attending cons, publishing, cavorting with zine publishers, and the like - sometimes i just need to draw a line in the sand and say "There are only 4 lights!" Although I will probably share the fate of Winston Smith for it.
The part about the SF market responding to covers makes me think of Heinlein's "Friday" ; when it was issued in paperback with the Whelan cover there was a big publicity push behind it & it became a best seller and people were reading it EVERYWHERE! Reviews, commentary, Southern library bans for it being "too sexy", it had a big breakout appeal, appearing in drug store and supermarket spinner racks the way science fiction rarely did. It was years later when I found out that wasn't the original printing. But that was how it found its market.
I think a lot of the more mature SF readership thinks "**** this, what's left of my life is too short to worry about what the kids think,". Me, I'm just deciding to put it out there as I've always done, but this time to a global audience. I fundamentally think CZcams needs more people like me in age and experience- and many of them are right here, making comments and it's great to be interacting with them!
@@outlawbookselleroriginal Yes!
Getting bombarded by young booktubers is a byproduct of watching too many of them!
I too should be scrambling to make a last cash-ball before bowing to retirement !
That would be an answer!
Steve, you're a bad influence old son.
Having dispensed with over 60% of my library last year I had committed myself to not buying books ever again. Then I watch this, go out and find myself returning with a mini book haul.
Unbeknowest to me my local second-hand bookshop had just got in a consignment of some 500 vintage SF paperbacks. Most in fine collector's condition. Apparantly they had all belonged to a cover artist who lived hereabouts and had recently passed away. Dealer didn't know his name. Anyway, there was an abundance of stuff that you've commented on and as this type of material doesn't surface here very often nowadays it seemed criminal not to avail myself of some of it. I'm sure you'll approve of my selections: a Signet edition of Ellison's BEAST THAT SHOUTED LOVE..., a Grafton COLOUR OUT OF TIME by Shea and an uncommon Basil Copper called INTO THE SILENCE. Bought eleven books in total and that was with me exercising extreme restraint. Could easily have bought many many more. But I came away knowing you'd tell me that I really must go back for all those Barrington Bayleys that were there. So I probably will.
Like I say, you're a bad influence.
Long may it continue.
Sounds great, Richard! Funnily enough I'm picking up some Copper myself soon, I hope. The main thing is to enjoy books not just for reading, but as beautiful things too.LOng may this continue for all of us here!
Hey Steve . I'll be terse . Great haul . You guys showed cool restrain...( i would have been bolting all over the place , i would have even camped out among the books .Lol. ( Dumb as my call for 24hr book shop. Lol ). Great movie Phase 4 , with at the time a vexing ending . Now i get it , great ending . Ok much more to say, but i promise to be terse. So thank Gentlmen Three .
Thank you for taking us on tour. It must be so difficult to film while being in a place like that as if it were me I know it would be hard for me to redirect my attention from the shelves. You’re very kind.
Hello, I've just discovered your channel, and I'm enjoying your videos immensely. So much knowledge and enthusiasm, as well as being a relaxing and gentle watch. I'm more of a DC Comics and action based sci-fi fan, but your videos have been informative, and I'm going to pick up some of your recommendations.
Transmetropolitan is my favourite SF, but I've ordered The Prestige by Priest, and looking forward to reading that this weekend.
Thanks for your comments. Glad to have you on board, I will get to my DC stuff sometime!
At the 36 minute mark when you show the Robert Sheckley 'Citizen in Space' cover - Wow, made me think of one citizen's spaceship - Jeff Bezos & 'Blue Origin' the upper section of which looks just like that image on the cover! Remember, William Shatner and others went up in!
No that's Boris Karloff, but it's taken from a still from one of the Mummy films.
The Gollancz yellowjackets are a rare case of the content selling us on the covers, as opposed to the usual covers selling the book. Back when we were kids, armed with our library cards, we soon learned that those yellow covers promised excitement, so we were conditioned to love those covers.
Yep. Yes, it's defo Karloff, right? Looked a bit brow-heavy for The Mummy to me, but hey, it's Boris-based!
@@outlawbookselleroriginal I could probably find you the still it's taken from if I had the time to look. :)
That's an awesome and insightful yellow jacket reminiscence.
Another excellent video! Night of the Eagle (1962) was terrific, with a fine performance from Peter Wyngarde, pre-Jason King. In his autobiography Miracles of Life, J G Ballard mentions that he knew Wyngarde (Cyril Goldbert) when they were boys in the Lunghua camp. When they saw each other in London many years later, Ballard started to speak to him, but Wyngarde cut him dead! Bit rude, that.
And yes, I'd LOVE to see a video on proper publishing terminology.
Same here, I would like to know more about 'in print' and 'out of print'.
What does it mean exactly?
Yes, I've read that Ballard-Wyngarde story. Terminology vid will come before too long.
Simple: 'in print' means that the publisher of the book has the book in stock at its warehouse/distribution centre. 'Out of print' means that the publisher has sold every copy of the book. When a book goes OP, it can still be out there in the marketplace - while wholesalers and retailers can still have the book in stock, when those supplies are sold to the public, they're gone.
Short-term wholesaler and bookshop availability doesn't mean a book isn't 'out of print' -what matters in this case is that the publisher, who is sole legal producer and distributor to second parties no longer has stock. So almost every day in my work, a customer will ask for a book that is out of print and sometimes we'll have it in stock, or there are copies still at a wholesaler. This short term 'availability' does not mean the book is in print, as I say. Only 'Available from the publisher' means 'in print'.
Many thanks, that has confused me for years!.
Lucky you getting to work with books all day. 📚 📖 👓
@@markkavanagh7377 -It's a double edged swords. The books are fine, but read Orwell's essay 'Bookshop Memories' for a more balanced reality!
A good book haul, Steve.
You briefly mentioned ephemera, it would be good if you did a video on that at some point. You know the stuff I mean, the things we serious collectors acquire on our book collecting journey. For me that includes manuscripts/typescripts including a number unpublished, original art, galley proofs and book proofs, masses of letters from authors, etc. You must have a lot of similar stuff.
I have some, but it's modest, really- I have a few letters and other bits, but proofs and so on I tended never to collect or hang onto, as in the sharp end of the book trade you do take these things for granted- I know Jules Burt has tons of stuff, including what I wish I had kept-publisher catalogues. Plus space has ALWAYS been a massive issue for me. I'm now genuinely out of space apart from a slot that will fit around 6 'a formats' and some space on top of other books for 3-5 small hardcovers. So my next 'book haul' may be my last for a good while- but I have sold some stuff on ebay this week, good news.
Some fantastic finds. Jealous!
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I loved the Yellow Jackets on Gollancz SF book - especially from that time I'd go to the local library & basically work my way through them. I only have one of those hardbacks at home now (it's a library sale book) 'Starburst' by Frederik Pohl :-) - thanks for the great videos!
I really appreciate the tales of nostalgia and pleasant memories of these, it offers perspective.
I'm going to do a 'Yellowjacket Video' before too long and go through all of mine, as I have some that I don't think have had their day in the sun on the channel. I'm very passionate about them-especially the 1972-1986 livery- but they can be hard to find in good condition. I'm collecting them intensely at the moment while they are still out there!
Cheers Walt, always great to hear from you.
Very much enjoyed this one, OB! BTW, new review finally posted in Amazon for your "100 Must-Read Science Fiction Novels". Cheers!
Thanks for that Rick!
Publishing terminology:
I'm totally with you. I don't expect people to know "in-house jargon," but once their coverage becomes in depth enough to leave them looking for the right word to use, it is frustrating that they're using the wrong ones. When I worked for Penguin USA we all understood the word "proof" ( the correct word of printing jargon) and usually used synonymously with "galley" as in a printed and bound galley. If there was any use of the term "advanced readers copy" it usually referred to books that looked like finished copies, but usually had promotional information on the cover : ("not final art", "national promotional tour", etc.)
The Singleton / Standalone difference always felt a little more organic to me. Singleton felt like convenience business slang for which the word "book" had previously sufficed. Whereas "Stand Alone" seemed to be a term of necessity coined by a public drowning in post 80s genre fiction designed to be purchased by the sack, so I'm a little more forgiving of it.
Great video, so much I'd like to ask, but those videos are coming. . .
As I understand it, a galley is the print proof the author gets to make actual corrections on (mine were done electronically). You're right about ARCs too, of course. As for singleton, yep, it only needs invoking at an audience brainwashed into thinking that every genre book needs to be part of a series...yep, those videos will come!
@@outlawbookselleroriginal I agree with what you say & by your response I fear I mis-worded something, and as it wanders too far from the topic of your video I'll not try to fix it & make an epic digression. let's save it for another video!
Some great books in your haul & if I *already* knew more about New Worlds, I'd know which I need! I'll just have to wait for that video to order. . .
You'd swear the Kindle had never been invented! 😃
Books have souls. An ebook is merely a file, not the same thing, right?
Absolutely! I buy the physical copy now and listen to it on audible! Best of both worlds.
Stephen, many thanks for your insightful videos; they've been very helpful in both learning about the history of SF and with picking up quality material for my reading list (singletons ftw!). As a fellow fan of SF minutiae, I thought you might appreciate to know that 'Leiber' isn't pronounced like 'liebe', but more like 'laibar' (source: Fritz himself from a filmed interview) and that Le Guin is like 'le gwin' (source: a FAQ on Ursula's own site).
Will be looking forward to your video on terminology, to learn the finer points of diptychs, the various formats, etc :-)
The Leiber pronunciation is new to me, but nothing will ever change my personal utterance of LeGuin LOL. Glad you like the videos!
Second comment . Looked at my shelf. I have " Baphomet's Meteor " and next to it " The Napoleons Of Eridanus " . You must do a vid on " attention grabbing titles " And the revelence . One of the best " Repent Harlequin Said The Ticktock Man " Elison had some of the most attention grabbing titles and openers .Ps.befor the hair cut you look like the aging rock star ...😊.
Re the hair, that's what The Video Widow says...
*We Know* you're a Rock Star. . .
I picked up my first Farmer this past week, not SF though. It was a Sherlock Holmes meets Tarzan pastiche, and a sequel to the Final Problem. For many years I had a computer game adaptation of Riverworld, but haven't got further than that.
Ah, but this is a Wold Newton story, so it is SF: Tarzan and Holmes are part of the Wold Newton family tree, their ancestors irradiated by the falling meteor that cause mutations and these Supermen of popular fiction.
@@outlawbookselleroriginal I think you sold me on that sentence alone!
how does one become a book seller? are there warehouse types of wholesale used books sellers where they get their inventory from publishers selling their unsold copies?
Yes, but those are called 'remainders' and there are dealers specialising in these, but the range is usually limited. To get an inventory like Bob's, you have to buy from all kinds of sources. I believe he purchased most of his from other dealers at conventions and book fairs.
It is so frustrating watching you go to these place that we cannot. but keep posting the videos and I will control my jealousy
Well Andy, as I say, you can buy from these dealers- both Bob and Zardoz, Bob can be emailed with a wants list and his website will be up in the future, and Zardoz/Allyouneedisbooks has a website and is also on abebooks.