I'm sad that crunchyroll is so adverse to unionization that they're throwing away such significant talent over such a simple request, I hope they reconsider and I wish you the best of luck with whatever comes next
It's sad that many are adverse to unions in america. As a union member, do I think unions 100% work? Yes, I do. Do I think there are shitty unions that DON'T work? Yes, I do. There are jobs that are impossible to unionize just because of how unions SHOULD work effectively. Unions work most effectively with contracted labor, Welders, Carpenters, Voice Actors, ect. who move from job to job, company to company, role to role. In the case of many unions grocery stores, railways, teachers, ect. I think these unions are harder to get anything done and in most cases become horrifically corrupt under themselves, because you arent contracted workers selling your skills to anyone but 1 company. Thus they can do whatever the hell they want to you and you can't fight back or just move onto the next job. The fact that Crunchyroll is Anti-union is incredibly sad, especially after buying Funimation, they've realized they have a monopoly on this. Which is funny by the way, because Crunchyroll used to steal subbed anime from more talented individuals and then copyright strike their piracy acting as if it was theres. NEVER, let Crunchyroll live that down.
This is sad to hear, I really hope you get to reprise the role. You gave Mob such a great voice for the dub. It's really annoying to see so many companies back away from anything tied to unions.
This feels rather familiar but different, it's like Funimation replacing Vic Mignogna allover again, no good is coming from every dubbing studio in modern times
It's absolutely disgusting that Crunchyroll is willing to do this to their lead roles rather than have a simple conversation. A CONVERSATION! You're doing the right thing speaking up on Crunchyroll's ridiculous actions. Hoping this will make a change in the future.
It is only when you join a union, contrary to popular beliefs, that conversations dry up. Because most of the unions way of negotiating is "our way or the highway" and also by the very nature of the new administrative overhead, more money will be needed. I detest companies that take advantage of their employees but time and time again unions mostly screw stuff up even more. Similarly to minimum wage laws. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
@@michaelterry6576 excuse my scepticism, coming from a very corrupt place, I've yet to see one that doesn't steal from both the employee and the company
@@RmaxTwice Let's say you're right. Crunchyroll underpays its people, Funimation fired Vic over allegations nobody brought him to court for or proved even happened. I don't mind if they get fucked. But it's literally a potential tall to negotiate the possibility. No promises to do anything.
This hurts and it's deeper than just "my favorite show is getting muddled and tainted by corporate greed, fear and arrogance," it's also about people's livelihoods. Unions are to protect people trying to make a living and wanting to be treated fairly. Even the word "union" makes big industries flinch. Not only does this situation hurt Mob Psycho, it might ripple into more projects. I don't even like anime that much, there's only a select few I enjoy but Mob is just my favorite show in general. I feel bad for anyone this is going to effect be it the actors or the fans because there's passion from both sides. It's personal. Not every actor is in it for the paychecks. Some are fans too and just want to do right by the material. And yes, there's bigger problems in the world right now but it's stuff like this that helps get people through these tough times. For the 25 minutes someone gets to be happy watching something, that might be the only joy they have in that entire day. Sports, video games, other hobbies or interests, these things to some are (in extreme cases) the reasons they're still living. I've been fortunate enough to have been dealt a decent hand and while I still have my demons, I know a lot of people have it way worse. It really is the little things in life that makes everything worth it. Anyway, I respect his decision to hold his ground to Crunchyroll. It sucks, yes, but it's also necessary within the industry. Voice actors are often disrespected and treated as replaceable compared to live action actors. That's something that's gotta change and unfortunately, that change had to start with the last season of Mob Psycho 100. But hey, I guess the backlash and possible loss of viewership and revenue was worth not having a conversation
On a similar note, my dad wants me to apply to Walmart instead of my current job because it pays more. What he doesn’t get is that, Walmart is non union, while my workplace is. It’s not just about money. It’s about guarantees that you can’t be fired for no reason, you have the union to back you up. It’s about guaranteed breaks so that you don’t kill your body, it’s making sure the “benefits” of the company are actually impactful. Companies like crunchyroll know this, and they would rather lose talented employees than lose a single cent of profit. I hope the workers at crunchyroll can find a way to get the union rep they deserve.
Please consider learning about what's occurring here. Sony is the parent company of Crunchyroll. There are different types of unions & they do not all share the same priorities.
@@kneau I am aware Sony owns Crunchyroll and I know not all unions are equal. However, he met with Crunchyroll representatives about simply setting up a meeting with SAG-AFTRA representatives to potentially negotiate a contract. Nothing was set in stone. They could have had the meeting and decided against forming a contract. Union work (in the most basic sense) provides fair wages, health care, retirement and general security to the actors. They're freelance workers after all so they can't really get any benefits besides pay from the studios they work for. He was even willing to do this season off union just for a discussion. Given I've been trying to keep myself in the loop with any information I can, I feel I'm well informed. You can blame Crunchyroll, Sony or any middle man potentially involved, no matter how you slice it this is a rough situation for all parties involved. So with all the facts I've gathered, the people I'm going to push the most blame to is Crunchyroll because they are the face of the issue and showing our frustration to them will find its way to the top
I think it's unreasonable to give Crunchyroll a "reasonable request," when their parent company is Sony & SAG-AFTRA members have recently (2019?) been given the option to go Fi-CORE.
@@kneauSony Japan does not give a fuck. I've had issues with them as well with the Japanese English Dubs I do of popular songs from their country under their copyright laws
I cancelled my paid subscription of 2 years and cited this as the sole reason for leaving. Hopefully CR will reconsider but I will absolutely not support a company that treats its workers like this. Thank you for your VA work Kyle, Ioved your voice as Mob. And thank you for organizing with your cast mates for better working conditions!
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v for the corporation, it's just a business strategy, for the worker it is their livelihood. what do you have against class solidarity?
I'm so sorry to hear this happened. You really brought Mob to life and are one of my favorite voice actors in general. You did absolutely the right thing and I'm sorry you were put in this situation to begin with. I hope things do work out with Mp100 but if not still excited to support your future works!
@@adam_stanheight I've posted a comment under this same video that would be a lot to copy/paste here. I welcome feedback on it, since I can make statements of fact about the industry & business operations... yet it's this same information which prompts me to have many questions for Kyle.
@@spidey5558 Broca's Aphasia & Transcortical Motor Aphasia. I'm fortunate not to deal with it unless also experiencing brain inflammation. However, said inflammation can become a daily obstacle for four to six weeks at a time. Sometimes telegraphic speech. Sometimes grating verbosity. My apologies.
I'm so sorry this has happened. I have been a fan of your work for years now. As an autistic young man, Mob Psycho 100 immediately became special to me for how I felt connected to Mob. Let alone just the spectacular writing and animation. I hope this can get fixed somehow.
@@willk7508 you think he's similar to AS? I always thought he had disassociative identity disorder due to his childhood trauma. But as a parent of an autistic child I can definitely see what you are getting at. My daughter can handle a lot of triggers until she can't and the last trigger pretty much determines what kind of reaction she will have. Regardless of what the other triggers were. Wow I totally see it!
Is there anything fans can do, like sign a petition or something? The English dub cast deserves to go out on a high and experience the joy and surprises of season 3. Keeping fingers crossed that we hear good news soon 🤞
Kyle, this is one of my favorite anime/character and this was the role I discovered you from. I 100% stand with you and I knew how you feel about SAG AFTRA from past post of yours. I hope it can work out in the end but if not, your fans are here and we’ll continue to support.
Dang, you're THE english Mob. I personally feel it weird not to have your Mob voice on the most important final confrontation on this saga finale. The other guy tried his best, but it still feels like its not the same voice we been warming up since the start. Makes me just switch over to sub when i actually watched dub all the way from season 1, anyway thanks for voicing Mob for the first two seasons. The show is a masterpiece
Mob's dub voice was my main reason for watching. The whole dub cast for Mob Psycho thus far has been phenomenal, whether you get the opportunity to reprise or not, thank you for all your hard work. (edit: typo)
I really hope there's enough backlash to get them to fold. This is so upsetting. I won't lie that I teared up. I was particularly looking forward to the dub because I was so excited to hear your performance for the final arc of the series. This crushed my heart.
I'm sorry to hear Kyle, ofcourse I hope that a conversation will happen and that you will still be able to voice Mob for season 3. But if that's not the case, we will always be able to enjoy your amazing performance in the first two seasons. For me you will always be the voice of Mob.
Mob is just not the same without you playing him...I just got done watching the first episode of mob 3 dub and WOW it will never be the same...I hope nothing but the best for you and your career
Stay strong Kyle your amazing and i know you will continue to voice great characters in the future and you continue to voice amazing characters even today stay positive
honestly I hope this causes crunchyroll a lot of backlash. unions are great for any industry and when companies aren't willing to comply with them it's honestly quite a red flag.
You will always be our Shigeo Kageyama!! I read the news today, and I was heartbroken. It is really brave and nice to hear from you in person. They say one closed door can lead to a thousand opened ones, hopefully this will lead you to a better oppertunity :)
@@hexcodeff6624 if you can’t read that then you don’t speak english not one word their could be confused. and i answered who us and our was like you asked jesus
Yeah watched the first episode of season 3 dub, it's just not the same. You were definitely the voice of Mob. Not to mention all the other replacements as well. At this point I'm just going to cancel the crunchyroll subscription and sail the seven seas again.
I’m not a dub guy, but I have to say the English dub for mob psycho was very well done, you and Chris nioshi gave really great performances. Best of luck, I hope you find more successes in the future.
I started watching the show this week and started seasons 3 today and was shocked to hear mob's different voice…and now I know why…so sad to hear that you were such an amazing voice for him and it would not be the same without you…
Mob is one of my most precious comfort characters and part of that is due to your beautiful performance, I really can't imagine anyone else's voice for him
I'm beyond upset at this.... I will say it and this will be an unpopular opinion, I feel like your dub was better than the subs. The whole dub for this show in general was amazing, but there was one moment that really stood out to me. Season 2 episode one. The part where Mob is picking up the paper scraps in tears. It still brings tears to my eyes hearing that subtle voice trembling as Mob is in tears saying how he has feelings and it reminds him of what's important in his heart. The acting you did in that part felt way more emotional than the original voice acting did.
I’m so sad about this. I know this is old news but i watched the new episodes that came out and it’s simply not the same without you and many others!!!
PLEASE keep trying to set up that sit down we all want you and the cast to finish the series that you started together 🤞 One of my favorite shows with a damn near perfect English dub cast
Your work as Mob was (hopefully can be is again) amazing and I’m so sad to hear about this. I’m glad your making this decision though and I hate crunchyroll for this. I hope this situation can be turned out for the better
I can't imagine someone doing a better job at dubbing mob because I absolutely loved your performance, so I really hope you will be able to reprise the role but even more so I greatly understand and respect your position! Glad I could hear this from you
How are they treating him like Garbage? He literally said they wanted to pay him a generous contract, possibly more than he would have gotten with the union. They didn't fire him, he's refusing the role just because Crunchyroll isn't willing to "have a talk" about a union contract. A union contract that would require Crunchyroll fire all non-union workers and make them refuse to hire any non-union workers in the future. This is not the kind of situation where a union is needed, it's the kind of situation that gives them a bad name.
As a fan of the show I'm finding it hard to think of a solution to fight back against crunchy roll, other than pirating the episodes myself and not support the platform. We are pro Union
I haven't watched the dub but do love the series and I'm a big supporter of unions. I hope Crunchyroll change their minds, it's pretty disappoiting to say the least that Crunchyroll weren't willing to even talk about it. It just highlights the importance of unions all over again. In general companies, even good ones, exploit their workers to hell and back when unions aren't involved. I will certainly look to watch the dub before my subscription ends. If this is how Crunchyroll wants to behave and this is the route they want to continue down, I honestly would rather not support them. I'm unfortunately not in a position to join a union that would fight for my rights as the union in my industry has little to no teeth and it feels like they are not willing to do anything to upset my employer.
I’m so sorry all of this happened. Mob Psycho is my favorite show and Mob is a character I heavily relate to and your voice talent brought his character to life so well. I hope crunchyroll and other companies get their act together and think of their employees.
I’m so sorry to hear this. Mp100 is one of the shows that I actually enjoyed the English bud more than sub. You’ve all done an amazing job, every cast fit the character so well. 😢
This man must return....this show is so close to being a master piece.if the change out one of the best VA in the cast on the last season it will go down I history as one of the biggest fuck-ups in anime history
At least for the english dub. We can at least have high hopes that the japanese dub team could finish it in a high note. Still, this is a shame, since the phenomenal english dub justifies a rewatch.
Yeah there will always be the sub, they will guarantee it'll go out on a high note but it's just so unfortunate the dub couldn't finish what it started
@@moondrip2163 as much as like the sub , the dub is just that good. I can’t look at the sub the same anymore. For me I’m jumping straight to the manga if this doesn’t get fixed.
@@ARC1300 And miss out on BONES' labor of love in this anime? Come on now. Its rare for incredibly well-animated and well-directed shows to have this much passion and heart behind it. The manga, while good (I read it myself already), just won't deliver the same experience the anime did and will.
@@ARC1300 I feel like this is completely subjective and highly dependent on whichever version you watched first. I love the sub and both reigan and mobs voice actors absolutely kill it. Now when I try to watch the dub it just doesnt feel the same, and feels way less expressive and genuine. It's really just personal preference. Granted if they canceled the sub today I'd still watch the dub version because the shows just that good right
I wholeheartedly support you. Thank you dearly for the years as Mob, you did an amazing performance and brought life to his English dub. Please continue to value yourself, MOB would support you as well. 💯
Good for you! Funi/Crunchy Role just want to take advantage and abuse talent. Corporate greed blows. Its inspiring to see someone take a stand like this 🙌
@@user-tc1fw5ms5s I did watch the video and it seems he is just triggered Cruncy Roll wont bow down to a union he is a leader at, Unions hurt employees and employers and are only in it for those union dues which scam millions of employees every year.
@@whatdoyoucallanalligatorin9174 I did and my conclusion is what i posted. Unions are a scam and this person is supporting one so much he is kamikazing a TV series for his own selfish reasons.
Your smart for your decision, and it takes a lot to tell this to the fans. I hope it works out. Mob is a show I like to switch back and forth on with the dub/sub. It's all so quality, and I'm sad to hear that you might not return.
You're the whole reason I started watching Mob. I had got a Jojo autograph during Covid and you slipped a little freebie in because it understandably took a while. It was a picture of Mob so I said why not let's check it. Fell in love immediately! They really are losing out on this :( wishing you well
:( I don't really know you but I absolutely LOVE your voice as mob when I watched the series. I don't think I'll get over it, you're just that suited for him. This sucks a lot but thank you for the work you're doing to relieve this. I wish you best of luck.
Glad I stumbled onto this video, actually wild they said no to just meeting a representative... that is pretty nuts... sorry to hear it, I dont need to watch season 3 via them, idk if that helps or not, but that sucks.good luck man
I usually just watch subs, but I showed this show to my son in dub and y'all did a superb job! I hope for the change but I support anyone who is willing to secure their career in the way that works for them
Mob 100 was one of the few shows I would watch dubbed. The voice acting cast made the show and played their role well. Sad news to hear. I wish the best for you and this series. But I am probably switching back to subbed :/
thank you sir for your candor and transparency about this issue! i wish you and the other Edub anime talent all the best!!! i hope Crunchy-Funi-Aniplex-SONY listens to you guys and at least sits down with you all and STARTS talking about SAG contracts!
Thank you for standing with your union throughout it all. Yall know better than us consumers how hard working condirions are for voice actors out there. I look forward to following your future work and i hope your met with labor successes and not just struggles in the future. Be well ❤️
Here from Ludwigs video to show some support. I couldn't imagine how hard this must be after literally being the voice of a character and having to let that go. Lots of love
Thank you for informing us. Not only did I greatly enjoy your portrayal, but I also greatly support your right to a union. I'll keep paying attention to how the situation develops, I hope for the best for you!
honestly, your voice is a big part of what got me into MP100. I've been a fan of yours since I got into automata and fire emblem echoes around the same time and hearing your voice acting is always a treat! I started up MP100 a few months ago without knowing you were involved and was so charmed by your performance that it really elevated the show for me
I tend to watch anime subbed more often than not now days but I loved you as Mob in both seasons, really disheartening to hear about this, you all deserve better.
I’m glad your sticking up for what you believe in, I also believe that unionization is suuuuper important, especially in the United States, and I’ve think we’ve seen that these last couple of years… or more. Still sucks we may not hear you voice mob though.😞
Thank you for basically being willing to take one for the team. I’m glad that the conversation of keeping acting roles in anime within union representation is being had. It’s long overdue and I’m glad that you are telling Crunchyroll to have the damn convo already. Thank you so much I hope to see you on Mob psycho 3!
I'm hoping everything works out. This show is one I almost exclusively watch in dub, and to see all these complications behind the production is rather sad. Whatever happens, I'm glad I was able to hear you as the voice of Mob, thank you!
I literally just watched the dub a week ago and it was phenomenal! I've been a fan of Kyle's work since NieR: Automata. It's unfortunate to hear the news but maybe it'll turn around before the dub goes into full production. I remember Takagi San had similar issues with the Funi dub and Netflix dub a few years ago. The series with new voices will be good no doubt JJK's dub is amazing but it just won't be the same without Kyle and with the possibility Chris not returning it just won't hit the same after hearing them for 24 episodes.
This is so sad 💔 Mob is my favorite character and I'm not sure if anyone can bring him to life like you can. Thank you for giving us the Mob we knew and love ❤
As a director myself I can certainly see both sides of this Union contracts offer more protection for the actors, but increase production costs and SAG-AFTRA typically don’t like you using non-union actors on union productions Crunchyroll could take the meeting, but if it were to go south there’s always the risk of SAG-AFTRA saying “ok you don’t want to play ball, then no more Union workers” and tell their members not to take any jobs from Crunchyroll. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time SAG-AFTRA has tried that approach But I know people who swear by the guilds and people who want nothing to do with them Is it worth having the conversation yes, but in my experience it’s better to have it in an unofficial capacity between two colleagues first as it mitigates the concern of losing either Union and non-union actors
Hiring non-union actors on a union job is exceedingly easy. Production fills out one page of paperwork called a Taft-Hartley. In the event the actor is deemed ineligible to work, production is given notice and plenty of time to rectify it before any penalties are incurred. At least in the VO world, I have never heard of a Taft-Hartley being rejected. The idea that non-union actors would be unable to work is, at best, an outdated misconception, and at worst, outright misinformation. Union members are already breaking Global Rule One if they're working non-union, so the threat of SAG-AFTRA issuing a Do Not Work order is present with or without a meeting. I would think it's higher now than it would have been had they taken a behind-closed-doors, let's-see-what-middle-ground-we-can-find, no-strings-attached meeting. Especially because current wages at Crunchyroll are so close to current SAG-AFTRA minimums, meaning finding that middle-ground should be a very simple matter.
@@KyleMcCarley I’ve seen and heard it happen plenty of times on live action productions, but that’s just in my own experience. It maybe far less common for VO work, but since I don’t have much experience with VO I’ll take your word on it True it is against the rules and hiring a union actor for a non union production is always a risk, because they could flip the production. Still sometimes you have a friend who’s Union that you want to use, but you don’t have the money to go full union and they don’t mind doing it because they’re a friend and they like the project As for Crunchyroll you’re right by refusing an official meeting they’ve likely put themselves on SAG-AFTRA’s radar as a company to be wary of. If I remember correctly it was a similar situation with a game developer that eventually lead to a SAG-AFTRA strike for video game VO work a few years ago As for Crunchyroll I can understand some of their possible concerns with taking the meeting, but I can’t understand refusing the meeting all together as it does put them in an awkward position moving forward. I would think given the recent merger they could ask to delay it until the two companies have finished merging. Plus they might end up in a union situation regardless if Texas repeals it’s right to work laws
Youre one of my favorite voice actors EVER! It's a damn shame that theyre shooting themselves in the foot like this. I wont be using their service anymore after this, not even for free. Hope they realize before its too late and they change their mind. Much love Mr.McCarley!
Honestly just crying right now. You were the main reason I even decided to watch Mob Psycho. I hope things work out for you. You are such an amazing actor, and I love your work so much. Crynchyroll really messed this one up.
I'm sad that crunchyroll is so adverse to unionization that they're throwing away such significant talent over such a simple request, I hope they reconsider and I wish you the best of luck with whatever comes next
It's sad that many are adverse to unions in america.
As a union member, do I think unions 100% work? Yes, I do.
Do I think there are shitty unions that DON'T work? Yes, I do.
There are jobs that are impossible to unionize just because of how unions SHOULD work effectively. Unions work most effectively with contracted labor, Welders, Carpenters, Voice Actors, ect. who move from job to job, company to company, role to role. In the case of many unions grocery stores, railways, teachers, ect. I think these unions are harder to get anything done and in most cases become horrifically corrupt under themselves, because you arent contracted workers selling your skills to anyone but 1 company. Thus they can do whatever the hell they want to you and you can't fight back or just move onto the next job.
The fact that Crunchyroll is Anti-union is incredibly sad, especially after buying Funimation, they've realized they have a monopoly on this. Which is funny by the way, because Crunchyroll used to steal subbed anime from more talented individuals and then copyright strike their piracy acting as if it was theres.
NEVER, let Crunchyroll live that down.
@@skinnyweenie8679 Well someone doesn't look in the mirror very often.
@@skinnyweenie8679 no. Most people just aren't bootlicking scumbags who know unions are for protecting workers.
@@skinnyweenie8679 unions good (sometimes) but can be bad.
fuck crunchyroll
thats the jist
@@DrCranberry if i remember correctly Funimation actually bought Crunchyroll and rebranded itself as Crunchyroll now
This is sad to hear, I really hope you get to reprise the role. You gave Mob such a great voice for the dub. It's really annoying to see so many companies back away from anything tied to unions.
I know right
He need to sue them
@@ivanjoseph8732 how would that work
@@ACey96 plus, with what money? He would need ALOT just to try and sue them
This feels rather familiar but different, it's like Funimation replacing Vic Mignogna allover again, no good is coming from every dubbing studio in modern times
Man I don't normally watch dubs but Mob Psycho was an exception for me. Your portrayal for Mob was perfect.
Same
Will not be watching this dub unless he gets to reprise. Fucking sucks
A lot of dubs are great, love the attack on Titan, and death note dubs, plus the big three emotions is everything for me.
@@sebastiangrundler7640 Chill I’m still going to dude.
@@sebastiangrundler7640 But Chris Niosi did so well as Reigen, I'll just have to see
It's absolutely disgusting that Crunchyroll is willing to do this to their lead roles rather than have a simple conversation. A CONVERSATION! You're doing the right thing speaking up on Crunchyroll's ridiculous actions. Hoping this will make a change in the future.
Conversation is illegal. Crunchyroll is Crunchypoo
It is only when you join a union, contrary to popular beliefs, that conversations dry up. Because most of the unions way of negotiating is "our way or the highway" and also by the very nature of the new administrative overhead, more money will be needed.
I detest companies that take advantage of their employees but time and time again unions mostly screw stuff up even more. Similarly to minimum wage laws. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
@@RmaxTwice
But does any of that apply to having a single talk with a union?
Unions CAN suck, but they can also help.
@@michaelterry6576 excuse my scepticism, coming from a very corrupt place, I've yet to see one that doesn't steal from both the employee and the company
@@RmaxTwice
Let's say you're right.
Crunchyroll underpays its people, Funimation fired Vic over allegations nobody brought him to court for or proved even happened.
I don't mind if they get fucked.
But it's literally a potential tall to negotiate the possibility.
No promises to do anything.
This hurts and it's deeper than just "my favorite show is getting muddled and tainted by corporate greed, fear and arrogance," it's also about people's livelihoods. Unions are to protect people trying to make a living and wanting to be treated fairly. Even the word "union" makes big industries flinch. Not only does this situation hurt Mob Psycho, it might ripple into more projects. I don't even like anime that much, there's only a select few I enjoy but Mob is just my favorite show in general. I feel bad for anyone this is going to effect be it the actors or the fans because there's passion from both sides. It's personal. Not every actor is in it for the paychecks. Some are fans too and just want to do right by the material. And yes, there's bigger problems in the world right now but it's stuff like this that helps get people through these tough times. For the 25 minutes someone gets to be happy watching something, that might be the only joy they have in that entire day. Sports, video games, other hobbies or interests, these things to some are (in extreme cases) the reasons they're still living. I've been fortunate enough to have been dealt a decent hand and while I still have my demons, I know a lot of people have it way worse. It really is the little things in life that makes everything worth it.
Anyway, I respect his decision to hold his ground to Crunchyroll. It sucks, yes, but it's also necessary within the industry. Voice actors are often disrespected and treated as replaceable compared to live action actors. That's something that's gotta change and unfortunately, that change had to start with the last season of Mob Psycho 100. But hey, I guess the backlash and possible loss of viewership and revenue was worth not having a conversation
Government backed unions just make things worse, so fuck em
On a similar note, my dad wants me to apply to Walmart instead of my current job because it pays more. What he doesn’t get is that, Walmart is non union, while my workplace is. It’s not just about money. It’s about guarantees that you can’t be fired for no reason, you have the union to back you up. It’s about guaranteed breaks so that you don’t kill your body, it’s making sure the “benefits” of the company are actually impactful. Companies like crunchyroll know this, and they would rather lose talented employees than lose a single cent of profit. I hope the workers at crunchyroll can find a way to get the union rep they deserve.
Please consider learning about what's occurring here. Sony is the parent company of Crunchyroll. There are different types of unions & they do not all share the same priorities.
@@kneau I am aware Sony owns Crunchyroll and I know not all unions are equal. However, he met with Crunchyroll representatives about simply setting up a meeting with SAG-AFTRA representatives to potentially negotiate a contract. Nothing was set in stone. They could have had the meeting and decided against forming a contract. Union work (in the most basic sense) provides fair wages, health care, retirement and general security to the actors. They're freelance workers after all so they can't really get any benefits besides pay from the studios they work for. He was even willing to do this season off union just for a discussion. Given I've been trying to keep myself in the loop with any information I can, I feel I'm well informed. You can blame Crunchyroll, Sony or any middle man potentially involved, no matter how you slice it this is a rough situation for all parties involved. So with all the facts I've gathered, the people I'm going to push the most blame to is Crunchyroll because they are the face of the issue and showing our frustration to them will find its way to the top
Subbed is better anyway
You couldn't have given Crunchyroll a more reasonable request, annoyed that they wouldn't just agree to a meeting. Hopefully they come around.
I think it's unreasonable to give Crunchyroll a "reasonable request," when their parent company is Sony & SAG-AFTRA members have recently (2019?) been given the option to go Fi-CORE.
@@kneauSony Japan does not give a fuck. I've had issues with them as well with the Japanese English Dubs I do of popular songs from their country under their copyright laws
@@kneau Scab.
@@dude2345672 Inaccurate conclusion.
@@kneau Fi-CORE is literally a union busting scheme.
Scab.
I think this is a situation where it’s not just about telling fans, but an audience of employment-aged people what you’re going through
I cancelled my paid subscription of 2 years and cited this as the sole reason for leaving. Hopefully CR will reconsider but I will absolutely not support a company that treats its workers like this. Thank you for your VA work Kyle, Ioved your voice as Mob. And thank you for organizing with your cast mates for better working conditions!
Solidarity is all we have. Unsubbed too.
They haven't done anything to him. They simply don't want to hire a union for the next season. It's not about this voice actor in particular.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v for the corporation, it's just a business strategy, for the worker it is their livelihood.
what do you have against class solidarity?
@@dude2345672 Don't bother with this user, I saw them on another thread saying that Union's are bad, basically.
I love capitalism, sucks to be poor, just be rich
I'm so sorry to hear this happened. You really brought Mob to life and are one of my favorite voice actors in general. You did absolutely the right thing and I'm sorry you were put in this situation to begin with. I hope things do work out with Mp100 but if not still excited to support your future works!
They did not do & are not doing the right thing. I think -- at this time -- they need a constructive reality check, more than blind support.
@@adam_stanheight I've posted a comment under this same video that would be a lot to copy/paste here. I welcome feedback on it, since I can make statements of fact about the industry & business operations... yet it's this same information which prompts me to have many questions for Kyle.
@@kneau You speak... interestingly
@@adam_stanheight Love your pfp
@@spidey5558 Broca's Aphasia & Transcortical Motor Aphasia. I'm fortunate not to deal with it unless also experiencing brain inflammation. However, said inflammation can become a daily obstacle for four to six weeks at a time. Sometimes telegraphic speech. Sometimes grating verbosity. My apologies.
I'm so sorry this has happened. I have been a fan of your work for years now. As an autistic young man, Mob Psycho 100 immediately became special to me for how I felt connected to Mob. Let alone just the spectacular writing and animation.
I hope this can get fixed somehow.
God, MP100 is such a good piece of autistic representation. Hopefully we won't hear mob dubbed by a scab
Mob got his nickname because mob basically means background character. Mob is the voice for all of us who felt stuck on the outside.
Same. Mob feels like the best representation that AS folks like us have gotten in anime since… well since I started watching anime
@@willk7508 you think he's similar to AS? I always thought he had disassociative identity disorder due to his childhood trauma. But as a parent of an autistic child I can definitely see what you are getting at. My daughter can handle a lot of triggers until she can't and the last trigger pretty much determines what kind of reaction she will have. Regardless of what the other triggers were. Wow I totally see it!
@@blakec8549 "Mob is the voice for all of us who felt stuck on the outside" is SUCH an amazing line, thank you
your voice as mob was absolutely fantastic, definitely one of my favourites in the dub. sad to hear this but it's completely understandable!!
Is there anything fans can do, like sign a petition or something?
The English dub cast deserves to go out on a high and experience the joy and surprises of season 3.
Keeping fingers crossed that we hear good news soon 🤞
Stop supporting non-union labor. 🏴☠️ your anime.
cancel your crunchyroll subscription and email them directly about why you won't support them. Petitions do nothing
Share the video and cancel your Crunchyroll subscription.
Subbed is better
@@gaaraofthedesert6566 So is your mom's head game.
Kyle, this is one of my favorite anime/character and this was the role I discovered you from. I 100% stand with you and I knew how you feel about SAG AFTRA from past post of yours. I hope it can work out in the end but if not, your fans are here and we’ll continue to support.
@@skinnyweenie8679 yet, you care about ruining his life.
Once you find out how bad unions are your support will dwindle.
Dang, you're THE english Mob. I personally feel it weird not to have your Mob voice on the most important final confrontation on this saga finale. The other guy tried his best, but it still feels like its not the same voice we been warming up since the start. Makes me just switch over to sub when i actually watched dub all the way from season 1, anyway thanks for voicing Mob for the first two seasons. The show is a masterpiece
Mob's dub voice was my main reason for watching. The whole dub cast for Mob Psycho thus far has been phenomenal, whether you get the opportunity to reprise or not, thank you for all your hard work.
(edit: typo)
Subbed is better
@@gaaraofthedesert6566 Factually incorrect in this case, but I guess I'll let you have your opinion.
@@Kooliette "factually"? Explain
@@gaaraofthedesert6566 that’s just your opinion
@@gaaraofthedesert6566 you give every anime fan a bad name and I wish you'd stop with your gatekeeping bullshit.
I really hope there's enough backlash to get them to fold. This is so upsetting. I won't lie that I teared up. I was particularly looking forward to the dub because I was so excited to hear your performance for the final arc of the series. This crushed my heart.
The Funimation controversy didn’t make them fold. I don’t think this will either but man would it be great if it did
We latin americans basically bullied a company into giving us the right Dragon Ball dub, you can do the same.
The new voice is so different I’m not sure I can keep watching it now
I'm sorry to hear Kyle, ofcourse I hope that a conversation will happen and that you will still be able to voice Mob for season 3.
But if that's not the case, we will always be able to enjoy your amazing performance in the first two seasons. For me you will always be the voice of Mob.
Isn't the third season technically the final season? Like, they were almost DONE. You deserve SO much better than this treatment.
Mob is just not the same without you playing him...I just got done watching the first episode of mob 3 dub and WOW it will never be the same...I hope nothing but the best for you and your career
Stay strong Kyle your amazing and i know you will continue to voice great characters in the future and you continue to voice amazing characters even today stay positive
While I think the current VA for Mob is a good voice actor, the show just ain't the same without you man. Everything that happened really sucks.
honestly I hope this causes crunchyroll a lot of backlash. unions are great for any industry and when companies aren't willing to comply with them it's honestly quite a red flag.
You will always be our Shigeo Kageyama!! I read the news today, and I was heartbroken. It is really brave and nice to hear from you in person. They say one closed door can lead to a thousand opened ones, hopefully this will lead you to a better oppertunity :)
Who is "us" or "our" supposed to be?
@@hexcodeff6624 obvi mob, mob will always be remembered with his voice it was perfect
@@jackmayfield8994 could please speak English, if it doesn't put you into a curfuffle?
Also, what does that have to do with my question?
@@hexcodeff6624 if you can’t read that then you don’t speak english not one word their could be confused. and i answered who us and our was like you asked jesus
@@jackmayfield8994 It's "there".
Yeah watched the first episode of season 3 dub, it's just not the same. You were definitely the voice of Mob. Not to mention all the other replacements as well. At this point I'm just going to cancel the crunchyroll subscription and sail the seven seas again.
I’m not a dub guy, but I have to say the English dub for mob psycho was very well done, you and Chris nioshi gave really great performances. Best of luck, I hope you find more successes in the future.
Mob's voice just isn't the same in the new season, really sorry they did this to you
I started watching the show this week and started seasons 3 today and was shocked to hear mob's different voice…and now I know why…so sad to hear that you were such an amazing voice for him and it would not be the same without you…
After watching the first episode in dub it just doesn’t feel the same without you :( I’ll miss you
Mob is one of my most precious comfort characters and part of that is due to your beautiful performance, I really can't imagine anyone else's voice for him
They can’t listen to a simple request, then they don’t get my money. No different than when Hulu threatened to replace John DiMaggio.
you did so well as mob that whenever i talk about superb eng voice acting, you are always my first mention
I hope things turn out well
I'm beyond upset at this.... I will say it and this will be an unpopular opinion, I feel like your dub was better than the subs. The whole dub for this show in general was amazing, but there was one moment that really stood out to me. Season 2 episode one. The part where Mob is picking up the paper scraps in tears. It still brings tears to my eyes hearing that subtle voice trembling as Mob is in tears saying how he has feelings and it reminds him of what's important in his heart. The acting you did in that part felt way more emotional than the original voice acting did.
Thanks for being open and polite about the situation, I hope it'll help people get better working conditions in the future.
I’m so sad about this. I know this is old news but i watched the new episodes that came out and it’s simply not the same without you and many others!!!
We all need to support Kyle right now. Everyone needs to be commenting and sharing for the algorithm. 💪🏽
Goddamnit, your voice for him was so good, and I was so looking forward to hearing you do some particular scenes in season 3! Nah, this can't stand.
I've never given money to Crunchy, and I'm never gonna start. Solidarity forever.
Solidarity! Union work has always been lacking in dubbing and this sucks to hear that they won't be stepping up for any negotiation here
PLEASE keep trying to set up that sit down we all want you and the cast to finish the series that you started together 🤞
One of my favorite shows with a damn near perfect English dub cast
Keep fighting the good fight man, know that you did your best for the people you work with, much love ❤️
Your work as Mob was (hopefully can be is again) amazing and I’m so sad to hear about this. I’m glad your making this decision though and I hate crunchyroll for this. I hope this situation can be turned out for the better
I can't imagine someone doing a better job at dubbing mob because I absolutely loved your performance, so I really hope you will be able to reprise the role but even more so I greatly understand and respect your position! Glad I could hear this from you
Thank you for speaking out to us, Kyle. Crunchyroll is disgusting for treating you like garbage. I'll support you to the end.
How are they treating him like Garbage? He literally said they wanted to pay him a generous contract, possibly more than he would have gotten with the union. They didn't fire him, he's refusing the role just because Crunchyroll isn't willing to "have a talk" about a union contract. A union contract that would require Crunchyroll fire all non-union workers and make them refuse to hire any non-union workers in the future. This is not the kind of situation where a union is needed, it's the kind of situation that gives them a bad name.
As a fan of the show I'm finding it hard to think of a solution to fight back against crunchy roll, other than pirating the episodes myself and not support the platform.
We are pro Union
I haven't watched the dub but do love the series and I'm a big supporter of unions. I hope Crunchyroll change their minds, it's pretty disappoiting to say the least that Crunchyroll weren't willing to even talk about it. It just highlights the importance of unions all over again. In general companies, even good ones, exploit their workers to hell and back when unions aren't involved.
I will certainly look to watch the dub before my subscription ends. If this is how Crunchyroll wants to behave and this is the route they want to continue down, I honestly would rather not support them. I'm unfortunately not in a position to join a union that would fight for my rights as the union in my industry has little to no teeth and it feels like they are not willing to do anything to upset my employer.
I’m so sad to hear this! I loved your work with Mob!! Thank you so much for all your hard work and I really hope they will reconsider!!
I’m so sorry all of this happened. Mob Psycho is my favorite show and Mob is a character I heavily relate to and your voice talent brought his character to life so well. I hope crunchyroll and other companies get their act together and think of their employees.
This is exactly what happened with Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. The actors wanted the show to go Union, Saban refused and replaced them.
I’m so sorry to hear this. Mp100 is one of the shows that I actually enjoyed the English bud more than sub. You’ve all done an amazing job, every cast fit the character so well. 😢
Ur room gives me life I’m so glad ur a nerd. Seeing ppl be successful in a field that they enjoy is so wholesome
Man thank you for all years of entertainment and amazing work and your amazing you stood for your fallow VA and you should celebrated.
Mob means so much to me as a character. You will always be my mob ❤️
This man must return....this show is so close to being a master piece.if the change out one of the best VA in the cast on the last season it will go down I history as one of the biggest fuck-ups in anime history
At least for the english dub. We can at least have high hopes that the japanese dub team could finish it in a high note.
Still, this is a shame, since the phenomenal english dub justifies a rewatch.
Yeah there will always be the sub, they will guarantee it'll go out on a high note but it's just so unfortunate the dub couldn't finish what it started
@@moondrip2163 as much as like the sub , the dub is just that good. I can’t look at the sub the same anymore. For me I’m jumping straight to the manga if this doesn’t get fixed.
@@ARC1300 And miss out on BONES' labor of love in this anime? Come on now. Its rare for incredibly well-animated and well-directed shows to have this much passion and heart behind it. The manga, while good (I read it myself already), just won't deliver the same experience the anime did and will.
@@ARC1300 I feel like this is completely subjective and highly dependent on whichever version you watched first. I love the sub and both reigan and mobs voice actors absolutely kill it. Now when I try to watch the dub it just doesnt feel the same, and feels way less expressive and genuine. It's really just personal preference.
Granted if they canceled the sub today I'd still watch the dub version because the shows just that good right
I wholeheartedly support you. Thank you dearly for the years as Mob, you did an amazing performance and brought life to his English dub. Please continue to value yourself, MOB would support you as well. 💯
Here after the first scene with Mob in season 3. Instantly heard the difference. Terrible.
You are a perfect voice for Mob, I hope you somehow get back into it
Good for you!
Funi/Crunchy Role just want to take advantage and abuse talent. Corporate greed blows.
Its inspiring to see someone take a stand like this 🙌
He literally said he was going to be paid more than on a union contract how does that show crunchy roll is abusing employees.
@@Kuraakka if you watched the video you'd have enough context to understand, so watch the vid I guess?
@@user-tc1fw5ms5s I did watch the video and it seems he is just triggered Cruncy Roll wont bow down to a union he is a leader at, Unions hurt employees and employers and are only in it for those union dues which scam millions of employees every year.
@@Kuraakka Watch the video.
@@whatdoyoucallanalligatorin9174 I did and my conclusion is what i posted. Unions are a scam and this person is supporting one so much he is kamikazing a TV series for his own selfish reasons.
Thank you so much for your work as Mob. It was spectacular. I hope you still get reprised.
Your smart for your decision, and it takes a lot to tell this to the fans. I hope it works out. Mob is a show I like to switch back and forth on with the dub/sub. It's all so quality, and I'm sad to hear that you might not return.
That’s sad but understandable. I will continue to support you and your work. I hope things can work out.
You're the whole reason I started watching Mob. I had got a Jojo autograph during Covid and you slipped a little freebie in because it understandably took a while. It was a picture of Mob so I said why not let's check it. Fell in love immediately! They really are losing out on this :( wishing you well
He was right. Mob is different and will never be the same.
:( I don't really know you but I absolutely LOVE your voice as mob when I watched the series. I don't think I'll get over it, you're just that suited for him. This sucks a lot but thank you for the work you're doing to relieve this. I wish you best of luck.
I watch the show subbed but this is really sad. Stay strong Kyle!
Glad I stumbled onto this video, actually wild they said no to just meeting a representative... that is pretty nuts... sorry to hear it, I dont need to watch season 3 via them, idk if that helps or not, but that sucks.good luck man
Hey man, thanks for taking a mature approach to this announcement. Really appreciate your work and look forward to hearing you in other properties.
I usually just watch subs, but I showed this show to my son in dub and y'all did a superb job! I hope for the change but I support anyone who is willing to secure their career in the way that works for them
Bro, your VA as shiego was literally the best thing ever. I'm actually so sad rn.
Mob 100 was one of the few shows I would watch dubbed. The voice acting cast made the show and played their role well. Sad news to hear. I wish the best for you and this series. But I am probably switching back to subbed :/
Thank you for your work and I hope you find another spot that will take care of you!
impressed by how well-put and easy to follow his explanation was
Thank you for the courage to try to better the lives of your fellow VAs
Thats insane they are so hesitant just to have a sit down and talk. I really wish the best of luck to you and the others.
I sincerely hope things go well, your work for this series was very good.
thank you sir for your candor and transparency about this issue! i wish you and the other Edub anime talent all the best!!! i hope Crunchy-Funi-Aniplex-SONY listens to you guys and at least sits down with you all and STARTS talking about SAG contracts!
Thank you for standing with your union throughout it all. Yall know better than us consumers how hard working condirions are for voice actors out there. I look forward to following your future work and i hope your met with labor successes and not just struggles in the future. Be well ❤️
well I unsubbed from crunchyroll. They can't support their Voice actors. Why would I pay for them?
Here from Ludwigs video to show some support. I couldn't imagine how hard this must be after literally being the voice of a character and having to let that go. Lots of love
Thank you for informing us. Not only did I greatly enjoy your portrayal, but I also greatly support your right to a union. I'll keep paying attention to how the situation develops, I hope for the best for you!
This man is so reasonable, I can't see why crunchyroll wouldn't listen
honestly, your voice is a big part of what got me into MP100. I've been a fan of yours since I got into automata and fire emblem echoes around the same time and hearing your voice acting is always a treat! I started up MP100 a few months ago without knowing you were involved and was so charmed by your performance that it really elevated the show for me
Thanks for the update. Your fans will still stand by you no matter the outcome
I tend to watch anime subbed more often than not now days but I loved you as Mob in both seasons, really disheartening to hear about this, you all deserve better.
I’m glad your sticking up for what you believe in, I also believe that unionization is suuuuper important, especially in the United States, and I’ve think we’ve seen that these last couple of years… or more. Still sucks we may not hear you voice mob though.😞
Thank you for basically being willing to take one for the team. I’m glad that the conversation of keeping acting roles in anime within union representation is being had. It’s long overdue and I’m glad that you are telling Crunchyroll to have the damn convo already. Thank you so much I hope to see you on Mob psycho 3!
I'm hoping everything works out. This show is one I almost exclusively watch in dub, and to see all these complications behind the production is rather sad. Whatever happens, I'm glad I was able to hear you as the voice of Mob, thank you!
Man your work as Mob is phenomenal and no one can do better if they end up replacing you I'm sticking to Sub
I literally just watched the dub a week ago and it was phenomenal! I've been a fan of Kyle's work since NieR: Automata. It's unfortunate to hear the news but maybe it'll turn around before the dub goes into full production. I remember Takagi San had similar issues with the Funi dub and Netflix dub a few years ago.
The series with new voices will be good no doubt JJK's dub is amazing but it just won't be the same without Kyle and with the possibility Chris not returning it just won't hit the same after hearing them for 24 episodes.
Hey man, sticking to your values no matter what. Mad respect.
You have a lot of integrity to do this when so many would let it slide, thank you for standing up for so many
This is so sad 💔 Mob is my favorite character and I'm not sure if anyone can bring him to life like you can. Thank you for giving us the Mob we knew and love ❤
Your offer is more than fair. Sad I might not hear you in season 3. I'm a dub only fan for that show.
As a director myself I can certainly see both sides of this
Union contracts offer more protection for the actors, but increase production costs and SAG-AFTRA typically don’t like you using non-union actors on union productions
Crunchyroll could take the meeting, but if it were to go south there’s always the risk of SAG-AFTRA saying “ok you don’t want to play ball, then no more Union workers” and tell their members not to take any jobs from Crunchyroll. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time SAG-AFTRA has tried that approach
But I know people who swear by the guilds and people who want nothing to do with them
Is it worth having the conversation yes, but in my experience it’s better to have it in an unofficial capacity between two colleagues first as it mitigates the concern of losing either Union and non-union actors
Hiring non-union actors on a union job is exceedingly easy. Production fills out one page of paperwork called a Taft-Hartley. In the event the actor is deemed ineligible to work, production is given notice and plenty of time to rectify it before any penalties are incurred. At least in the VO world, I have never heard of a Taft-Hartley being rejected. The idea that non-union actors would be unable to work is, at best, an outdated misconception, and at worst, outright misinformation.
Union members are already breaking Global Rule One if they're working non-union, so the threat of SAG-AFTRA issuing a Do Not Work order is present with or without a meeting. I would think it's higher now than it would have been had they taken a behind-closed-doors, let's-see-what-middle-ground-we-can-find, no-strings-attached meeting. Especially because current wages at Crunchyroll are so close to current SAG-AFTRA minimums, meaning finding that middle-ground should be a very simple matter.
@@KyleMcCarley I’ve seen and heard it happen plenty of times on live action productions, but that’s just in my own experience. It maybe far less common for VO work, but since I don’t have much experience with VO I’ll take your word on it
True it is against the rules and hiring a union actor for a non union production is always a risk, because they could flip the production. Still sometimes you have a friend who’s Union that you want to use, but you don’t have the money to go full union and they don’t mind doing it because they’re a friend and they like the project
As for Crunchyroll you’re right by refusing an official meeting they’ve likely put themselves on SAG-AFTRA’s radar as a company to be wary of. If I remember correctly it was a similar situation with a game developer that eventually lead to a SAG-AFTRA strike for video game VO work a few years ago
As for Crunchyroll I can understand some of their possible concerns with taking the meeting, but I can’t understand refusing the meeting all together as it does put them in an awkward position moving forward. I would think given the recent merger they could ask to delay it until the two companies have finished merging. Plus they might end up in a union situation regardless if Texas repeals it’s right to work laws
So sorry to hear what happened. I wish you nothing but the best for the future .
This is incredibly sad to hear but you deserve to be unionized. You’ll still be our Mob no matter what happens.
That's pretty sad to hear. Sorry they treated you like that. And im glad that your standing up for yourself.
I only found out about this when I started watching s3 and noticed Mob's voice was different... I'm so sad rn
Youre one of my favorite voice actors EVER! It's a damn shame that theyre shooting themselves in the foot like this. I wont be using their service anymore after this, not even for free. Hope they realize before its too late and they change their mind. Much love Mr.McCarley!
Honestly just crying right now. You were the main reason I even decided to watch Mob Psycho. I hope things work out for you. You are such an amazing actor, and I love your work so much. Crynchyroll really messed this one up.