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How Crunchyroll FAILED The Dub Industry
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
- Today we discuss a new topic for this channel, the dub industry, Crunchyroll, and unions. Let's examine exactly what Crunchyroll did to Kyle McCarley, the English voice of Mob from Mob Psycho 100.
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Coming in to correct something in the video! I claim that JJK0 was dubbed by Crunchyroll but that is incorrect, it was only distributed by them and was dubbed by Studiopolis. The point that $150 is a horrible pay still stands, there's just two garbage companies instead of one!
I believe crunchyroll thinks that anime voice actors have no talent and are easily replaceable so they pay for even cheaper work
It’s crazy seeing this now. I never really watch dubs but decided to watch the dub from cyberpunk because I played the game in English.
The dub was significantly better than I’m used to in other shows. To the point where it felt wrong watching the sub with a buddy a week later.
Rare props to Netflix for treating their VA well. Hopefully others see the success and it becomes and industry standard
The title feels like clickbait because Crunchyroll and Funimation(who does the dubbing) are merged into one company now, however Funimation still is the one doing the dubbing.
150 Dollar isn't a horrible pay Rika barely talked in the Anime (At most took an hour to do), The problem for Voice Actors is just that it isn't meant as a full time job. 150 Dollars for an hour isn't even imaginable for most workers
is there any dubbing company that pays VA's well?
name a more iconic duo than CR and "making shit worse for literally no reason"
CZcams and "making worse for literally no reason"
Twitch and "making shit worse for literally no reason"
Horiko… ok ok I’ll stop
Horikoshi post War arc
@@highspeedrailenjoyer1045 Not more iconic tho... 💀
Voice actors deserve WAY more respect and recognition.
They have it in the community just not the people in charge
@@jasongrey6152 well they do deserve better pay for the work they do considering it’s literally not livable
@@golden5766 if the wages were truly not livable there would be no voice actors. The companies have every right and incentive to keep costs down. And labor is the largest cost.
It is a choice to work contract instead of salary/wage. If you work contract you sacrifice wage protections guaranteed under ERISA.
This living wage bull is just that....bull. If they're getting 75 an hour that is a fantastic contractual fee. Most salaried workers where I live don't make more than 50 an hour and that is plenty to live on. If they aren't getting enough hours then ask for more or get a second job. At 75 an hour working a no overtime work year that amounts to 150,000 a year for 2000 hours. If you can't pay for your own health insurance and a decent mortgage with that then you can't manage money.
@@madcat1738 yeah but they can’t just “get more hours” and chances are their just doing it because they like voice acting. A lot of them probably have second jobs as well but still doesn’t change the fact that a lot of them are pretty underpaid, like the voice actors for the 0 movie that only got $150-$300 each
@@golden5766 of they only worked 2 hours in that movie they shouldn't be getting all that much. And if they signed the contract they need to honor it.
I'm sorry but 75 is not underpaid. And if they can't find more hours than a couple a week get another job and do this as a hobby. Many people do what they love as hobbies or side hustles because they know they can't make a career out of it.
This is contractual work which is generally significantly different from being an employee. The rules are different. As an independent contractor, you are your own business and therefore responsible for when you work, what jobs you take, paying your own benefits and taxes, etc. It works differently for an employee in which the business determines your hours, which projects you do, your benefits (unless a very small company) and taxes.
Why should a company pay benefits to a freelancer who might do a job there for a month and then work somewhere else the next month and so on? That would be a ridiculous cost increase for the company.
We have to stop letting emotion rule and look at all the factors and variables. And it all comes down to choice. The person makes the choice to accept or not.
The amount of money the voice actors made for the studios to get payed a misery is such a sick joke
*Paid**
Past tense of pay is paid.
Payed is only used in Maritime context.
Paid? As in monetary?
One terrible srgument I hear for paying VAs cheaply is that the shit pay will disincentivise for-profit VAs and only bring in the truly passionate ones which is an argument that titally falls apart when you listen to most Netflix dubs which offer way better pay and working conditions that CR but the quality is imo overall higher. On top of that the argument falls apart even harder when you look at Hollywood where actors can give a half assed performance and still get paid millions just for having their name in the credits
for-profit VA should be the bare minimum considering these people deserve to make a living wage just like anyone else
@@AsarathaHSYT they are getting what 75 an hour? Even 35 an hour is pretty decent. Maybe they can take on more roles so they work 30-40 hours a week.
And living wage? That's such an emotional appeal of utter bull. So Seattle in their perfect wisdom throws down a $15 minimum wage and all the fast food joints buy kiosks and get rid of their employees. Brilliant for the mega corps. Hilarious unintended consequences for students and other people getting a bit of work experience. And of course it gave the mega corps a reason to raise prices because their biggest or second biggest cost increased. And I'm sure those union execs were just salivating at demanding a proportional wage increase for all the other employees.
Wages forced up by non-market external forces drive costs up for business who have to raise prices to compensate which then makes the lowest wages supposedly untenable again. Rinse and repeat. And screw everyone over.
Unions have become a poison on the workforce and economy.
No matter how much you love something you have to put in the work. If you're only doing 2 hours a week you're not putting in the work. And if you're getting 75 an hour and working a regular schedule you're making more than half the country. And you can pay for your own health insurance at that contractual fee.
That's one of the differences between an employee and an independent contractor. An IC is his/her own business and should pay his/her own benefits while the company (if large enough) provides benefits to its employees. California may have some screwy exceptions.
There are so many caria variables such as worker's compensation insurance which in many states also covers independent contractors (more relevant in dangerous jobs and where the IC doesn't carry self-insurance for the same). Also where the jobs are done (union versus right to work state like Texas). And location may mean much lower or higher cost of living as it is.
Every person can negotiate for higher pay, residuals, certain benefits, etc. However some may change the IC into an employee and if the IC doesn't want that then they must sacrifice. That's the nature of the choices we make. If they want higher pay or more hours search elsewhere or find a job in another field and do this as a hobby in your spare time.
I don't feel sympathy for people making that much an hour. Sorry. I had plenty of tax seasons when I started my career where I worked 70 or 80+ hour weeks. It sucked but it was part of what I agreed to. Now I have a job with much better hours and the pay is enough where I'm pretty happy. You make your choices and then work to improve. Sometimes you run into walls, other times luck or opportunity carries you past. But this sob story over 75 an hour is ridiculous.
@@AsarathaHSYT no one should expect good things from CR, they started out as a Piracy site and people supported them then even though their content is stolen and still support them now.
Oh no, workers who are working for profit? How terrible!
@@idixal1836 Oh no, company's who are working for profit? How terrible!
I'm also not a huge dub fan but as some who loves art or anything in the creative field, voice actors deserve recognition, love and praise. Honestly, their work still leaves me in awe: the emotions they need to convey in a VOICE alone, their performances done well to not lose the emotion/feeling of the original source, the tonal differentiation of certain voices actors (to the point I find it hard to believe they're the same person. It's pure genius and artistic talent). These are skills that deserves to be paid what they are worth. It hurts to think the one streaming service I thought would acc be helpful is doing the opposite. I do hope that in the future all of this gets improved.
Just because they don't want union contracts doesn't mean they aren't doing good. There are way too many variables on all sides to say what is best in all circumstances. And while unions may have been necessary 60-100 years ago, they've become just as bad as the big corporations and the regular employees and mom and pop businesses suffer the most.
Modern dubs are on par or better than the Japanese version, it’s now just some sort of weird anime elitism that favours Japanese sub.
Where fans will judge the English version much more harshly because they understand the language, they know the accents, they know the cadences of the words. With Japanese they understand nothing, it’s just a sound and they couldn’t tell the difference between an accent from one province from another. The languages are so different in pitch, tone & cadence that most people haven’t got a clue what they’re listening to.
You’ll constantly hear people say “I just hear the emotions in their voices more”, and that’s just the kind of language that it is. You’ll often see them just shouting at each other having a normal conversation haha.
@@InfamyOrDeath-__- sorry to tell you, but you’re wrong. I used to believe everything that you just said, and I to argue with friends double over sub until I made the switch and what I will never look back.
@@ogpunyama683 Nope, I’m not wrong, people like you are just living 20 years in the past when English dubs were crap, now they’re on par and there’s absolutely no reason why any English speaker should be still watching subs. Especially if you’re watching an action heavy battle anime, you’re missing half of what’s happening on the screen as you’re reading the subs.
@@InfamyOrDeath-__- dude, I don't know if your dyslexic or slow but it really isn't that hard to glance at subs while retaining full visibility
I’m just sad that even though anime is a multi billion dollar industry now, the people that we recognize in working on these projects the most get the least amount paid. I look for the day voice actors, animators, translators, mangakas, etc are all able to do the things they love and make the money they deserve out of it.
quite alot of mangaka do make money out of it, its normally the strain of weekly that gets to them, but now alot of them have monthly as a choice which is far easier.
Biggest problem is with the anime and how underpayed the animators are. Really just paying them a fair amount could improve the average quality and make the whole process less insufferable. Outsourcing has always been a big issue for animation in general.
Kyle was SO great as Mob, and had such good chemistry with Chris Niosi as Reigen. Sad to see him forced out of the role.
Yeah he was really great I mainly watched it sub but still checked out some dubbed scenes and was confused why one scene from season 3 seemed really mediocre when most of mob’s acting voice acting had been pretty good up until then only to find out about this whole mess
I couldn’t even finish season 3 dub, I had to switch to sub. No shade to the replacement actor but he wasn’t the original one
Honestly I’m a fan of dubs and respect both preferences of subs and dubs. Dubs are one the reasons why I want to become a voice actor some day but to see the mistreatment they go through frustrates me. Companies like Crunchyroll makes being a voice actor and translator a challenge due to low pay and how they are treated.
I watch both but end up liking dubs more and as they have been shitty before, the ones that are good I end up reading the emotion of the role a lot better and get a lot more information out of it.
Especially the fact crunchy roll making a shit load of money charging extra for dub with that premium. Why I’ll just stick to Hulu. I don’t gotta pay extra just to hear some good ol dubs when I wanna switch from sub
Same bro, I want to be a voice actor as well, but crunchy roll is out of the picture
I always felt crunchyroll were sketchy as hell, I’m just sad for Mob having to get screwed like that.
I guess they never really changed. They were a shady Pirate site and now they are a shady Big Corporation. Sort of like a Drug Lord who now runs a Drug Company!
You're going to a different type of hell when someone promises to work without a contract if you just sit down a considering paying people fairly and you deny that offer.
Gotta give Netflix props for what they’re doing with dubbing
For as many shitty decisions they are making recently, I gotta respect them for at least paying their VA's decently.
Netflix dubs are some of the best dubs, consistently good quality.
Your added voice to this situation is admirable Asa. If Crunchyroll is allowed to continue soullessly as it does, it’s going to keep taking and taking and never giving back - forcefully taking all the passion out until the people who are the actual heart and souls behind the medium are left without a platform.
I send my regards to Kyle, and everyone else that suffers from the greedy people at the very top.
Great vid, gonna be interesting to see how the scrolling members bar at the end changes over time when you have to fit in way more names in the same amount of time, lol.
Thank you so much for your support, I couldn’t find the words to describe how frustrated I am over the head of country rolls actions. This is going to backfire big time for them
I'm just happy to see someone talk about this. It's a shame how little attention this has gotten.
TBH, I used to think that dubs are terrible but then I discovered the absolutely mad time crunch and workloads that people in the industry are under. SimulDubs are often recorded on the DAY OF RELEASE!!! I still think that dubs tend to sound awkward and a bit off but I have mad respect for the people that make them.
Now I've learnt that these people who WORK THEIR BUTTS OFF to do what they do are being paid NOTHING! It saddens me to know that the higher-ups at these large Anime Companies care so little about their staff. I used to dislike Crunchyroll but now I actually hate it.
that a corp. for you care bout money instead of people.
In my opinion, I prefer dubs. However, I am willing to watch an anime in sub if not given the option to watch it in dub. Anyway, I just barely started MP100, and I have to say that Kyle McCarley's representation of Mob is by far my favorite. I am so sad that Crunchyroll is doing this to him and several other VAs that work for their company. This has to be stopped. These poor VAs just want to have fun with their jobs and do their best to provide the west with amazingly dubbed anime. Crunchyroll doesn't deserve to underpay these actors
Like bro I only get to here him so often mainly in MP and JoJo Part 5 and they took him away, there are people that could definitely potray Mob well but McCarley was fantastic in every aspect of the character
Mob won't be the same without Kyle. It just won't feel right
Yeah the new actor is just not right. He has too much emotion in regular speaking. The whole point of Mob is that he is pretty emotionless most of the time except when it is about something that truly matters. Like the season 2 premiere when he starts to pick up Emi's shredded novel Kyle did an amazing job. Plus the deadpan delivery makes the jokes better, especially opposite of Reigen.
The fact they fired an amazingly talented man like Kyle simply for asking for the potential to have better worker's rights is horrible.
Great video and super informative!
Really hope something changes within Crunchyroll, but it’s difficult to be optimistic…
Thank you for helping to bring awareness to this! I pray they will treat all these people better one day.
I always love how much effect the VA puts into the characters. They deserve the pay they need and deserves and some ppl who says "who watches dub?". We do and the dub VA's are same as sub VA's.
When I started watching anime I was too young to properly read the subs so I am forever grateful to dubs for allowing anyone to start their anime journey at any age. I hope one day soon everyone will appreciate their work and they will be properly compensated!!
dubs are the reason i got into anime as a kid, and will continue to be the reason so many other kids in the future get into anime. I hope these voice actors can get the fair treatment and wages they deserve
personally, subtitles are better. you get original voices (which are 100% better) and the translation is, interestingly enough, a lot better.
I'm not going to mention all the censorship Crunchyroll adds for reasons.
@@WilliamWizer nobody asked
@@WilliamWizer really man? The dude was telling a story about how he got into anime and you made this a sub vs dub debate. Get a life.
@@WilliamWizer I also think that maybe in English there isn't really a big dubbing industry like outside English speaking countries or maybe there isn't as much respect?
In German every Hollywood movie gets dubbed and those are specialized artists. So since much of the movie industry needs VAs to function.
Also imo the German dub is in quality and words mostly closer to the original Japanese than the English one.
@@WilliamWizer yeah man that’s just your opinion you watch in the way you want not have pride cuz you watch it in sub like shut up bro we all watch it and enjoy it
As someone whose reaction to seeing his first Crunchyroll ad was "wait that one scam site that was stealing fansubs?" and who has felt downright gaslit over everyone repeating the corporate claim that supporting Crunchyroll "supported creators", I'm really happy to see at least some folks calling out Crunchyroll for what it is.
If I'm not mistaken, ever since Sony merged Funimation and Crunchyroll's streaming platforms, Crunchyroll no longer holds a monopoly on anime. All the Sentai Filmworks licensed anime are on HiDive, and if Bleach TYBW is anything to go by Viz licensed media might be going back to Hulu. And then you've got anime on Amazon and Netflix.
So there's still competition out there in the anime-sphere.
Also, Netflix is one of the biggest (and best) places for anime.
There's as much competition as the IPs that are bought by each company.
Netflix and Hulu only can buy so many IPs, safe to say Crunchyroll still has a monopoply.
You know I was a little upset at Disney getting into the anime business since they seem to suck at airing it like Netflix. But considering how well Netflix is making their anime and that they are helping the workers I feel my complaints are not as important. Hopefully Disney might be better than Crunchyroll (which is not a high bar to clear) but if not at least they will be another competitor stopping Crunchyroll from having a complete monopoly.
I can't believe I'm actually rooting for Disney for once.
@@bingokemski4473 I’m sick and tired of platforms doing the exclusivity bs with media, especially acquired media. I wish the west can have all of its media on all platforms like what is done in Japan.
Imagine being so bad you kick someone for wanting more pay. They paying these guys in tree branches? Hell typa bs going on here?
As someone who struggles with subtitles because of disabilities, and watches every anime Dubbed, it was absolutely heartbreaking to hear that one of my favorite shows was changing out the main characters voice for the final season. I fully support Kyle's decision, but am so distraught over the new voice. Why did it have to happen on the final season?
I cant believe CR couldn't even spare one guy for a simple meeting. I have never used their service, and never will. They are just another greedy, disgusting company.
As unrealistic as it is, I hope that we will get a re-dub with Kyle at some point in the future. Officially, or unofficially. I doubt I will be able to enjoy the final season at all because of the new voices. And of course I hope that working conditions improve for VA's across the world.
Hooray, more reasons to hate Crunchy roll and their awful practices!
Clears throat. PREACH KING, SAY IT LOUDER SO MAYBE CRUNCHY ROLL WILL HEAR
I'm glad someone else is saying something beacause it's kind of annoying how i was basically forced to get crunchyroll and they don't even have half the shows I want to see and I'm not even talking about dubs yet.
As someone who wants to work for them in the future as a voice actor, this is all very disappointing
Netflix at least pays their VA's well...
As an editor in animation having worked on stuff for netflix, disney etc I can tell you that pay even for our side of things is all over the place and for the most part not good. You can get lucky and get great pay but for the most part it can be very under paid compared to other forms of editing. It can be very disheartening and make you not want to do it anymore but then you see a finished product and are like damn I'm proud I worked on that. I'd say anime editors are probably paid even less than we are and that is grim
I just decided to unsub; mostly to save some money, but also that it really sucks and I'm not comfortable supporting that company for the time being. Gonna be hard to watch recent anime for me, but I'll live.
Make sure you’re vocal to them about how and why you unsubbed, as making yourself heard and having it known that you’re leaving for a reason is far more impactful than just quietly dropping out and making the company lose 10 bucks a month 👍👍
@@ryantibbittsva7081 I made sure to make that very clear in the comments, but thanks for the reminder.
Same. I unsubbed and wrote my reasoning down in the survey. It might not make a difference but hopefully someone there reads it.
imagine not using up the free trial than switching to a different email to use more free trials.
nah but srsly wth is crunchy roll doing
more animation industry discussion videos would be cool. im an animation student, likely going into the western industry or freelacing despite getting into animation because of shounen anime. the end goal is to work in japan but thats a far off dream. id like to hear more about it nonetheless
the western industry also has some issues and outsources alot, so just a general problem all around.
This is why I have no qualms pirating my anime
Ayup
I have no issues with pirating anime since the legal services are equal or worse than what you can find online for free. The only reason to subscribe to a legal service is the moral highground... Oh wait no that's long gone too.
Say it with me everyone, *Not a Charity*
Gets crunchy roll ad before this
For me, after the video
As a theatre actor myself who focuses a lot on my voice, I can tell you why older actors are rarely seen. It's not because they aren't skilled and hardworking or worse than younger ones, it's because they push themselves into a passion and rarely see the fruits of it. Actors are some of the most hard working and passionate people on this planet, because they know dedication, and are so often taken advantage of.
The world would collapse without the arts - and yet the world has never done enough to support the artists that influence it.
I enjoy dubs, they are the language barrier breaker for many. How do we help as the fans?
These shitty companies won't change until the money stops someone a part of a HUGE anime needs to bring light to it and create so much noise that we boycott dubs til they fix the issues
insane how ur vids now get 2.5k in a day w ease, you've come such a long way bra im so proud man
On other hand the piracy did improve the anime popularity.
Great video on discussing this. CR and companies like them need to pay people WAY better
I wish they’d leave in the honorifics in the English, it’s what I like about Kodansha how they leave them in in their English translations in some manga.
Nah honorifics sound so cringe in English
@@louradean9293 No they don’t, they sound fine.
5:19 this hits home and im not even a voice actor...yet hahahaha
i really want to be one, im still young but im convinced its one of the only ways im sure i will be happy while also making a living out of it, anime and manga mean a lot to me and working to be part of that and bring this emotions and love a have for it to other people sounds so cool, it is sad to see this things happening
Crazy that I got a crunchyroll ad on this video
Lately I've heard so much anti union garbage in the US that I was feeling pretty discouraged that things might ever change. It's refreshing to hear someone that's pro union!
Sara Secora: cant have shit in detroit...
This video needs more attention. Seriously. Voice actors are people I revere, and so I can't believe they get dogged like this.
Why didn't the government prevent Sony from buying Crunchyroll
Simple: netflix and Disney. Thats why
Crunchyroll is full of crap. Literally watched them become villains
Saying he fought for a Union contract is a joke, he mentioned it.
Didn't get the chance to raise any kind of fuss, he simply said that he wanted Crunchyroll to talk to Unions, not even have them impact the contract and he was immediately dropped simply for mentioning Unions.
They put time & effort they must get paid very well when the anime is making millions of dollars especially
Thank you so much for creating this video. I had a hard time explaining the situation to friends who also love anime and you’ve summed things up very well!
I honestly had no idea how little they are paid it’s mind blowing and baffling I was honestly thinking most dub VA were making like $5,000 a session not $75 an hour for a session that’s crazy how tf has the dub industry not gone on complete strike is mind blowing
You won't make that money dubbing a Hollywood movie
I like Chris Niosi, but it's crazy how he managed to keep a consistent job while Vic is completely gone from the industry.
Yeah, Chris missed out on a couple of things like Fire Emblem & Mr.Osumatsu, but he's back to voicing his most iconic role?
How's that fair. 😂
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. As someone who only watches english dub anime, I’m absolutely disgusted by what I’ve learned in this video. Dub VAs deserve so much more than what they’re given. I was around for crunchyroll’s inception and for them to monopolize the anime industry like this and refuse to let their dub VAs be a part of the SAG union is appalling. Thank you for this video.
Bruh, Crunchyroll is literally a monopoly, that is Tearing apart the anime industry (and it’s sad)
I am a huge dub fan and each and everyone needs to get paid well. They are doing God's work.
They failled dub industry, sub industry, basic web design industry, user interface industry, etc. But they have 3.1 billion value, the times we are living...
The answer is simple. We should Boycott Crunchyroll, and be loud about the reasons why we are doing it.
The game industry is exactly the same, even if you have a name.
#DubLife ✊🏾
This is why you should pirate. And if you feel bad about not supporting the anime community, go donate that money to the charity fund for animators in Japan and make a real difference.
I'm typically not pro union since I have seen the way they have blatantly bullied companies to pulling out or closing, or made it impossible to fire useless workers, but in a case like this they are *absolutely* needed. The VA community, expecially the dubbing VA community needs something to lean on. I really wish they could all just collectively agree to boycott, but I understand that isn't an option
This video needs way more views.
A very important video
Crunchyroll really loves to make fans mad
crunchyroll needs to stop behaving like a CZcams clone
I am now incredibly depressed. Might just kms at this point
I wont watch anime without dubs. The only one Im watching subbed is Bleach, but thats because its my fav anime/manga and I hope the dub comes out soon and they treat VAs and dubbing with more respect. Again if there is no dub I won’t be watching anime. I know thats crazy to sub elitists, but I prefer dubs over subs by a huge margin.
Same.
I won’t watch it dubbed so I guess we balance each other out
You also watched New York dubs
Aaaaaaannnnndddd subscription earned.
Dude this video is really well done thanks for the info!
I just came from another VA controversy and I have to say this is much different from the other controversy as this one is far more truthful and respectable, I hope everyone gets what they deserve.
As many people don't watch dubs or would also watch subs if they are not available, I guess that also puts pressure as they'd argue they don't really need it. I feel like if the only way around it they see is giving some inhuman pay, it's better to just don't offer them at all.
I was debating if I should keep my Crunchyroll sub or not but this video reminded me why I’m even debating in the first place. I can get ad free and same day subs pirated. there is no other reason to sub to CR besides to support the makers of the anime which isn’t happening anyway.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT AFTER ALL THIS TIME I’VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT IT ALONE😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Still can’t believe both naruto and naruto shippuden isn’t dubbed on CR. I was so disappointed. I have no idea where I can watch all the seasons to naruto. My eye sight is terrible and it’s very hard to read the subtitles and still watch the show properly.
could just watch it on 9anime or something. dvd is overpriced and hulu barely has half of shippuden dubbed.
@@wrije $20 for a DVD that's not bluray is expensive okay 🙄
@@austinsadler never called it expensive, called it overpriced. there’s a difference between not being able to afford something and not wanting to spend more than it’s value.
This deserves more views !
Yeah I need more of these videos. Such a well composed video, this was made really well.
Crunchyroll underpays their actors so that they have more money left to fill the pockets of their advertises such as Mother's Basement, in order for them to continue to defend crunchyroll and never criticise it. It's always about the money and it will always be.
Such a shame mob psycho was one of the few dubs I actually really liked
I love the Jujutsu Kaisen English dub and went to see the movie in cinema's the first day it was out in the UK. It's absolutely absurd that actors in such a great movie only received $150 for their work, it's hard to believe how bad the pay is. This can't be allowed to continue, acting is a profession and actors should be able to actually make a living off of it, especially when the show/movie is as big as JJK or Mob Psycho. I'm glad this issue is being brought to light.
Man I didn't it was that bad. And the Bayonetta voice actor was complaining (which she lied) about getting paid $4000 for the 3rd game
Unions are great and we need more of them. If you aren’t in a union you should look at getting into one.
Not an english dub fan (as that is not my first language) but them shutting Kyle down just for a meeting is a big dick move.
That being said, I do have an apprehension towards a lot of the localization arguments since I have heard them on Twitter before because I have seen the official english Translator of One Piece mention he made a character speak in bird puns for one Chapter because he felt like it, despite nothing like that being present in the Japanese version so I think there can be criticism in that respect for playing too fast and loose with the translation and Jujutsu Kaisen’s manga reading like a google translate work at some points.
you can of course criticize localization and translations. that one piece situation sounds goofy and funnily enough, im p sure JJK's translator WAS using Google Translate for a bit. you have to operate on a case by case basis
I agree with everything you said, and nice music in the background love me some ocarina of time but you’re right I still don’t know why they haven’t done it yet. It’s inhumane. I wonder when or if they’re going to change because it’s new ownership I thought they would change. But they’re not. Let’s wait and see. I hope they do.
Dub for me is what determines if I’m going to watch an unknown anime. Same with movies in general. I know the content is good but I can’t invest hours on reading the text. Usually watch media by hearing while at times giving a couple of glances, while doing else at the same time. So I think AI should be invested and push more to do the voiceovers from translating original voices/text. This would avoid from keeping an industry that is simply not going to grow enough to satisfy the demand.
I grew up watching dubs. They are what got me into anime. The 4kids dub of One Piece was garbage and the Funimation dub is much better but if it wasn't for that 4kids dub I might never have gotten into One Piece.
Same with so many other anime that I can barely count. Sure if a dub is extremely bad or a sub is just really good then I would go for the sub, like Attack on Titan having a decent dub but an amazing sub. But honestly most of the anime I watch is dubbed. I'm not biased one way or the other, I just like good acting.
Kyle deserves better he's a great voice actor
Makes me really sad. These stories provide an escape from the sadness of reality and the performers that bring these to life deserve better.
Any chance you might want to delve further into the dubbing world ? There's some really seedy, weinstein esque shit that goes on in that industry. Paedophilia, sexual assault, defamation of character, cut throat behavior etc.
i would love to but im just unsure of where to start, you know?
Was planning on getting a Crunchyroll account but after this I’m just gonna stick with Hulu and Netflix
Why pay for something you can get for free, specially when the one you'd be paying to started in the same way 🤷♂
CZcams had the audacity to put a crunchyroll ad on this video for me
Raise your hand (like) if you agree that companies like Crunchyroll would be better off as a Worker-Self-Directed-Enterprise where all who work there, especially voice actors, own and manage the company in a democratic manner which ensures that everybody earns a fair wage and nobody is over worked.
Thank you so much man
I stopped watching dub anime years ago. However, I recently watched the English-dubbed version of Mob Psycho and was impressed by how good it is; so much so that I rewatched season 1 entirely. Are all dubbed anime that good nowadays? If yes, I have been missing out. It would be a waste not to keep such a good VA cast.
May I recommend Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood or Demon Slayer in dub to you?, Hell check out the YuYu Hakusho dub, I love sub just as much but someone's gotta give love love to the unrecognized actors, also JuJutsu Kaisen but the lead role kinda started off a lil bit wonky but he grew into it although his more emotional scene need a tad more volume
Dub is always translated way better than sub.
@@spookyscarygraviton5944 yeah I guess thats kinda true, most subs are just direct translations while dubs go more into localization to make it make more sense for that audience while keeping faithful to the work...most of the time ahm "anime with Dragons and or Maids", YuYu Hakusho improved on what was already there so I can let that slide if I'm being honest
There’s a lot of good dub out there nowadays, I’d suggest trying some out! A lot are really good despite what some sun supremacists say, I suggest you try out:
-Saki k
-Attack on Titan
-Assassination Classroom
-Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure
I'd like to add these great dubbed anime
-Cowboy Bebop (a classic)
-Samurai Champloo (also classic!)
-One Piece
-Death Note
-Inuyasha
-FLCL
-Attack on Titan (though I will admit the sub voices are too good not to watch)
And many more which I cannot name right now.
got an ad from crunchyroll watching this lol
This was an amazing video. Thank you for making it. Ypur channel was randomly recommended by youtube algorythm. Thanks for your time and deep investigation on the topic. Opened our eyes to this! Keep up the good work buddy
Bro I rewatched this video twice before learning you have less than 5k subs?!?!! You earned a new active viewer my guy. I’m extremely impressed.
It's beyond me how Crunchyroll hasn't been cancelled yet.
The dubs are mostly bad, they censor shit left and right, they underpay their employees etc.
Crunchyroll is just cringe.
Voice actors deserve better, but please also care about the underpaid animators. Animating stuff is not easy guys.
He touched on it a bit in this video and how everyone from animators to directors to even translators are getting shafted. This video was mostly about the VAs but he did mention a few other places that talk about these issues in better detail.
it begs believe that this is actually going on..... truly breaks my heart that the people that bring me such joy are being treated like this.
Like my anime how I like my rims. Dubbed