Hi there again, I am now only a week away from getting my PPLG and had the chance to do a dead stick landing in my Cavalon turbo and can confirm that there is very little difference with the engine stopped than being on idle exactly as you said Thanks Colin.
Thank you for the reply, I think as my cavalon is only a two months old I think if my instructor and I do a fan stop it will be outside the turbo range , but I'm surprised that he response is he same as on idle. I guess we will have to try one thanks a lot for info Colin..
Outstanding little film Thanks for sharing Thinking of getting my wife lessons on this, any thoughts She flew a lot in her late teens but never got a pilots license Think it’s time to fix that and get her in one of these We’re in the south of France And have a small airfield nearby Thanks again Keep sharing
Was your cavalon a 914 turbo as a fan stop can damage the engine so I'm told or did you keep outside the turbo range to protect engine? Also what rudder response was there thanks good vid :-)
Hi Colin, this Cavalon is equipped with the Rotax 912 (normal aspirated), so no problem in switching of the engine completely. The engine is switched off in idle, so no major change in rudder response. I do 95% of my landings in idle setting as the aircraft has no problem in doing so and it is good practice should I ever experience a reel engine out situation.
the normal aspirated engine on the cavalon is well under powered for 220lb guys the turbo is needed to get airborne once airborne the fuel economy is better than the aspirated 912 what i do is once up 500ft pull back to just under 5000rpm still climbing then cruise at 4200 if single 4600 if double at 70-75knots i heard on the grapewine autogyro will be beefing up the cavalon with a 135hp for 2014
When I was flying, you shut down an engine (always) by leaning out the mix. Are these engines designed to be shut down but simply cutting the ignition?
Adrian Clince It's an inherent issue with two-bladed, rigid-rotor designs. Proper tracking and balancing can minimize it, but not totally eliminate it. The Robinson R-22 helicopter is also known for having quite a lot of stick shake.There are ways of further reducing it, such as lead shot adding mass to the stick, dampers on the control rods, etc., but none are perfect solutions.
+Adrian Clince Yes, 2 blade wing always a problem for this. Not only the blade design but air currents and aerofoil design as well. Read up on how a helicopter rotor works whilst flying and you will have the answers. None of these aircraft are for me. A friend flies an Augusta, a dressed up Westland but I will not get in it.
+ MartinL1958 "The altimeter was still displaying 300 feet on touchdown??" Why does that surprise you? If they had landed at Paine Field in Everett, Washington, it would have been still displaying 606 feet, if at Denver International Airport it would have displayed 5433 feet, etc. Unless you're landing a seaplane on the ocean you're seldom going to have zero elevation, although Peter O. Knight airport in Tampa, Florida (where I took my first flight lesson back in 1971) is close, at just 7 feet. Edited to add: The Daocheng Yading Airport in Tibet is the highest airport in the world, with a field elevation of 14,472 feet! Bar Yehuda Airfield in Israel is the lowest airport in the world, at -1240 feet.
@@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName Oh really? And what exactly is it that you think I don't understand? Clearly it is YOU who doesn't understand. The OP was surprised that the altimeter was displaying 300 feet on the ground, and I pointed out that the reason for that has to do with field elevation. I'm a pilot; are you?
@@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName BTW, if you freeze the video at 0:42 you'll notice that the altimeter was *also* displaying 300 feet (more like 290, really) before takeoff. That's because that's the elevation of that airfield. What's so difficult to grasp about that concept?
As long as you replace the parts that needs replacing at their respective interval, your chances of having a mayor deadly accident are very low. You will more like die in a car or motorcycle crash then on an airplane, but if it is your time, nothing will change that
"Spacy" cabin? I think you mean "spacious." "Spacey" (not "spacy") might describe people like me who watch videos like these, but not a cabin interior.
We need to cut them a little slack, though. English isn't their first language. (I guarantee that if I tried to post a video in Danish, the captions would be near-total gibberish.)
The autogiro was developed in Spain in the 1920s, by Juan de la Cierva Codorniu, and further refined by Harold Pitcairn in the USA in the 1930s. This model is powered by a gasoline-fueled piston engine. There's no "Area 51 technology" here, just well-developed aeronautical technology.
You nearly ran out of runway. Next time, descend vertically to around 300 ft. and spot land it. That would be a much more impressive video. A bonus would be to shut it down prior to lining up with the runway, outside of a normal landing pattern.
Eric S "You nearly ran out of runway." Nearly ran out of runway? What a laugh! He set it down well before the halfway point, then had to taxi to the turnoff for the taxiway
Hi there again, I am now only a week away from getting my PPLG and had the chance to do a dead stick landing in my Cavalon turbo and can confirm that there is very little difference with the engine stopped than being on idle exactly as you said
Thanks Colin.
Exciting to see this. Keep on making learnful videos.
i guess i gotta start saving for one ! Looks fun !
GREAT VIDEO
Thank you for the reply, I think as my cavalon is only a two months old I think if my instructor and I do a fan stop it will be outside the turbo range , but I'm surprised that he response is he same as on idle. I guess we will have to try one thanks a lot for info Colin..
Cavalon is TOP!👍
Very impresive ,thx for share
Outstanding little film
Thanks for sharing
Thinking of getting my wife lessons on this, any thoughts
She flew a lot in her late teens but never got a pilots license
Think it’s time to fix that and get her in one of these
We’re in the south of France
And have a small airfield nearby
Thanks again
Keep sharing
I was always under the impression these were dangerous, guess they have improved the danger factor over the years.
Perfect autorotation!
Talk about a basic panel. 😁 Did you guys know that now Auto gyro has a three-axis autopilot for the cavalon? And it works great.
Was your cavalon a 914 turbo as a fan stop can damage the engine so I'm told or did you keep outside the turbo range to protect engine? Also what rudder response was there thanks good vid :-)
Incredible
Hi Colin, this Cavalon is equipped with the Rotax 912 (normal aspirated), so no problem in switching of the engine completely. The engine is switched off in idle, so no major change in rudder response. I do 95% of my landings in idle setting as the aircraft has no problem in doing so and it is good practice should I ever experience a reel engine out situation.
How loud is the cockpit with those Bose headsets on? Can you listen to music clearly?
Wow very good
Why do a short take off on grass when you're already on a long strip of asphalt?
Spectacular.
Oh good 👏👏👏
Seems like a very safe aircraft.
With a properly trained pilot at the controls, yes.
the normal aspirated engine on the cavalon is well under powered for 220lb guys the turbo is needed to get airborne once airborne the fuel economy is better than the aspirated 912 what i do is once up 500ft pull back to just under 5000rpm still climbing then cruise at 4200 if single 4600 if double at 70-75knots i heard on the grapewine autogyro will be beefing up the cavalon with a 135hp for 2014
How does it do engine off feet on the floor no rudder input?
its a sexy machine!
When I was flying, you shut down an engine (always) by leaning out the mix. Are these engines designed to be shut down but simply cutting the ignition?
ROTAX are FADEC no mixture control. Normally you practice engine out by just pulling the throttle closed.
@@ictpilot Thank you.
the gyro is a nice craft - but i thought they would have had less stick shake than that ...
Adrian Clince It's an inherent issue with two-bladed, rigid-rotor designs. Proper tracking and balancing can minimize it, but not totally eliminate it. The Robinson R-22 helicopter is also known for having quite a lot of stick shake.There are ways of further reducing it, such as lead shot adding mass to the stick, dampers on the control rods, etc., but none are perfect solutions.
+Adrian Clince Yes, 2 blade wing always a problem for this. Not only the blade design but air currents and aerofoil design as well. Read up on how a helicopter rotor works whilst flying and you will have the answers. None of these aircraft are for me. A friend flies an Augusta, a dressed up Westland but I will not get in it.
Why does the Pilot In Command not wearing his safety harnass?
Exactly!!
He knows what his life is worth
Niet nodig, veiliger vliegen dan in een autogyro bestaat bijna niet.
Seat belt?
The altimeter was still displaying 300 feet on touchdown??
MartinL1958 yes! MSL!
+ MartinL1958 "The altimeter was still displaying 300 feet on touchdown??"
Why does that surprise you? If they had landed at Paine Field in Everett, Washington, it would have been still displaying 606 feet, if at Denver International Airport it would have displayed 5433 feet, etc. Unless you're landing a seaplane on the ocean you're seldom going to have zero elevation, although Peter O. Knight airport in Tampa, Florida (where I took my first flight lesson back in 1971) is close, at just 7 feet.
Edited to add: The Daocheng Yading Airport in Tibet is the highest airport in the world, with a field elevation of 14,472 feet! Bar Yehuda Airfield in Israel is the lowest airport in the world, at -1240 feet.
@@seikibrian8641 you really dont understand the issue and problem with that... but thanks for trying
@@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName Oh really? And what exactly is it that you think I don't understand? Clearly it is YOU who doesn't understand. The OP was surprised that the altimeter was displaying 300 feet on the ground, and I pointed out that the reason for that has to do with field elevation. I'm a pilot; are you?
@@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName BTW, if you freeze the video at 0:42 you'll notice that the altimeter was *also* displaying 300 feet (more like 290, really) before takeoff. That's because that's the elevation of that airfield. What's so difficult to grasp about that concept?
Well whats the procedure for landing if you loose a gyro blade or your main shaft bearing freezes up or comes apart at 1800 ft ????
same as if your fixed wing aircraft loses one wing
As long as you replace the parts that needs replacing at their respective interval, your chances of having a mayor deadly accident are very low. You will more like die in a car or motorcycle crash then on an airplane, but if it is your time, nothing will change that
I'm fine with the Japanese "Toshi".
Panoramic vue ???
It's all relative. ;-)
guau !!
"Spacy" cabin? I think you mean "spacious." "Spacey" (not "spacy") might describe people like me who watch videos like these, but not a cabin interior.
But at least his descent was "decent." ;-)
We need to cut them a little slack, though. English isn't their first language. (I guarantee that if I tried to post a video in Danish, the captions would be near-total gibberish.)
An idication of the state of American English. They now even invent their own words, particulary verbs that never existed before.
بطولة العالم
*than
U mean 0 engine power.
Area 51 technology right there
The autogiro was developed in Spain in the 1920s, by Juan de la Cierva Codorniu, and further refined by Harold Pitcairn in the USA in the 1930s. This model is powered by a gasoline-fueled piston engine. There's no "Area 51 technology" here, just well-developed aeronautical technology.
Necesito un socio con $25,000
You nearly ran out of runway. Next time, descend vertically to around 300 ft. and spot land it. That would be a much more impressive video. A bonus would be to shut it down prior to lining up with the runway, outside of a normal landing pattern.
Eric S "You nearly ran out of runway."
Nearly ran out of runway? What a laugh! He set it down well before the halfway point, then had to taxi to the turnoff for the taxiway
You are a commercial pilot, or any pilot, and you don't set your altimeter for the field you're landing at... then post it on CZcams?
Bad example
Fcuk those things and any rotating wing machine.
Cessna 152 or 172 (a can with a fan) was always OK for me.
Cessnas are not ultralight aircrafts...
Crobular I grow up