Forging Arrowheads - BorntoForge -

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
  • This weeks Episode, Forging three types of arrowheads. War Bodkins, Flat diamond heads and Needle Bodkins.
    Material
    Steel - 10mm square, length (as long as it needs to be)
    Before you all start bitching in the comments i know they are not mounted correctly, they will be cleaned up, finished and mounted for display,
    Hope you find it interesting, if you have any ideas for future videos let me know in the comments below.
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    Music: www.bensound.com

Komentáře • 119

  • @fightinandirish
    @fightinandirish Před 3 lety +2

    So much work for the humble arrow head to end up God knows where. Great stuff.

  • @peteryoung9044
    @peteryoung9044 Před 6 lety +6

    Thank you for taking the time to make this!! Super helpful to see the different styles and strategies to take on each type.

  • @arklanuthoslin
    @arklanuthoslin Před 7 lety +39

    and in a single day of fighting they'd use, and not recover, how many of these?! oh my heart...

    • @HipposHateWater
      @HipposHateWater Před 7 lety +6

      Now you know why I cherish my sling.

    • @leeknivek
      @leeknivek Před 7 lety +7

      ? why would they not recover them? there is likely a week's worth of work just to make the iron for, say, 50 heads. then the forging, the hafting, the flighting. purchasing arrows perhaps would have been even more expensive than it is to go out today and purchase rifle bullets - because everything was done from scratch on such a small scale.

    • @stefanodogg280
      @stefanodogg280 Před 6 lety

      How many bullets do modern fighters recover? The price of war

    • @randomcow505
      @randomcow505 Před 6 lety +3

      super late reply but
      the casings usually are recovered by someone especially in poorer countries as they can sell the brass on or use it for something else, or reload them if they have the equipment and this can net them some kind of living
      the reason bullets themselves aren't recovered by some poor sod is because its not worth it, they are usually embedded deep in something or another so can't really be recovered
      arrows on the other hand will have a nice wooden marker sticking out of whatever they are stuck in
      and lets say you are some poor peasant living close to where a battle has happened or maybe a soldier going around picking up the spoils of the battle, why not grab the arrows? someone or other is gonna buy them from you maybe a fletcher looking to get some cheep heads or a hunter looking for some cheap arrows
      I mean dont get me wrong, im sure millions of arrows went un recovered, but Im sure many of them were gathered back up by someone and reused

    • @ateleskier7066
      @ateleskier7066 Před 5 lety +2

      @@leeknivek They were usually recovered. People were paid to fetch them, including digging them out of corpses (often horses). Arrows were very valuable due their cost as multi-person assembly items: bodger (shafts), blacksmith (arrowheads, called 'piles'), fletcher (flights or feathers plus the nock into which the bowstring - made by a 'stringfellow' - was placed). Sometimes arrows would be assembled by the same person (arrowsmith) but often they were moved about the country in bundles of incomplete items. Because of their value it wasn't unusual for final assembly to be near the point of storage, for example the Tower of London in the case of the Hundred Years War. They would be stored in sealed wooden barrels where possible with leather separaters to prevent the fletchings being crushed and avoiding damage from moths etc.
      It's interesting looking at the results from detectorists and archaeologists doing work in the vicinity of known battle areas such as Crecy and Agincourt where large numbers of arrows were known to have been used; so few arrowheads seem to turn up. Often that's just due to 600 years of corrosion, but nevertheless I'd have expected to see more evidence than seems to be spoken of. Or maybe they find loads and don't bother reporting it? I doubt it though.
      Making an arrow from scratch using authentic materials takes _ages_. Finding a straight piece of ash or knot-free birch (pine is a nightmare), seasoning it, splitting it with a froe, shaping it with a drawknife (and trying to get the weight-forward taper), nocking it with a cow horn slice using rabbit hide glue (which you've boiled yourself over a fire and mixed with some verdigris scraped off that bit of copper you left in the rain around the back of the garage), chasing about the countryside trying to find someone with white geese and willing to sell you pairs of primaries from the right-hand wing, fletching the shaft, binding it with hemp thread, gluing on the pile and then hoping it all holds together when you shoot it. Ugh. Lead and gunpowder is so much easier....

  • @trentszeponski1394
    @trentszeponski1394 Před 7 lety +30

    I love the music of the forge and hammer on hot metal vs anvil including the background sound of wood block and drum.

  • @zacharylovelady9265
    @zacharylovelady9265 Před rokem

    This is so enjoyable to watch

  • @WisdomShortvids
    @WisdomShortvids Před rokem

    Subbed because of this video such craftsmanship thanks

  • @Antipodean33
    @Antipodean33 Před 6 lety

    Now thats an anvil. Excellent workmanship mate

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard7960 Před 3 lety

    Novelty item that will draw interest, cool in anyones book!

  • @drason69
    @drason69 Před 7 lety +14

    Nicely done. Do them in equal weights and sell them to historic archers

  • @w0t3rdog
    @w0t3rdog Před 7 lety +11

    And this, is why there was such a thing as a fletcher. Imagine the amounts of arrows in a castles storerooms. Or the amounts carried by the english at agincourt... people made a living off of making arrows.

    • @ThiccboiSalmon
      @ThiccboiSalmon Před 5 lety +2

      Bit late but yes, but don't forget no fletcher is complete without his arrowsmith and bowyer buddies :)

    • @ThiccboiSalmon
      @ThiccboiSalmon Před 4 lety

      @Abu Troll al cockroachistan I think you maybe right, as battle sites yield very little arrowheads even allowing for corrosion. Metal is metal and iron was a valuable commodity so it stands to reason that at least sometimes of the heads would be reused.

  • @matthewnorwood1384
    @matthewnorwood1384 Před 5 lety +2

    You make this look easy, I have no experience but I'm certain it is not.

  • @ateleskier7066
    @ateleskier7066 Před 5 lety +4

    Fabulous to watch. You make it look really easy. (It isn't.)
    Thank you.

  • @rudyduee6849
    @rudyduee6849 Před 6 lety

    Un vrai forgeron, quel talent, bravo ! Je vais essayer mais avec un barbecue, j' ai déjà l' enclume ! Merci pour ces images.

  • @graveltheblock5578
    @graveltheblock5578 Před 3 lety +1

    Damn. Isabelle is now making arrows.

  • @foisalahmmed6345
    @foisalahmmed6345 Před 6 lety +1

    awesome thanks for sharing....

  • @nord4338
    @nord4338 Před 5 lety

    What talent; a pleasure to watch. Thank you.

  • @link12365
    @link12365 Před 7 lety +1

    Really cool!

  • @jens-eriklangstrand1689
    @jens-eriklangstrand1689 Před 7 lety +2

    This is how - and no jabbing and no fuck-face self endorsement. I can use this in teaching. Tx mister. Btw - the peening should end in a perfect triangle that would close the cone - or forge-welded overlapping - what do you think?

  • @mikec3820
    @mikec3820 Před 4 lety

    i lamp work boro(pyrex) wild how it almost moves like hard glass when seen at this speed. pottery metal glass are all similar in ways

  • @Fae2705
    @Fae2705 Před 5 lety +1

    I like the long tip!!!!

  • @konstantinzhdanov5461
    @konstantinzhdanov5461 Před 6 lety +1

    great! 👍

  • @jeffreycarter1223
    @jeffreycarter1223 Před rokem

    I’d like to see it done not as sped up and with a little bit of spoken information about the technique used and measurements of steel used for the collar and tip

  • @scottleft3672
    @scottleft3672 Před 7 lety +6

    swords into ploughsheers....and arrows into.....chisels.

    • @masonmp1889
      @masonmp1889 Před 2 lety

      no they would stay arrows just used for hunting

  • @gbaughman3348
    @gbaughman3348 Před 6 lety

    have you ever welded the sockets, if so did you have any trouble burning the steel. I think I will try a thin socket maybe use some US 1018 to start with.

  • @gonzalomauriciolara9931

    Very good your video

  • @idegila3153
    @idegila3153 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice

  • @freundlicherfalmer8375
    @freundlicherfalmer8375 Před 7 lety +6

    Looks like you´ll need a quite powerful bow to effectively shoot these i guess

    • @goodgirl99us
      @goodgirl99us Před 7 lety +3

      most bows when these were used were 50-75lb draws or 150lb crossbows

    • @Jvha761
      @Jvha761 Před 7 lety +6

      Raquel Bauman actually warbows were 100-130lb. That lancel head were used with warbows ^^

    • @mustafakara7739
      @mustafakara7739 Před 7 lety +2

      FreundlicherFalmer I forged one of these arrowheads and i shoot them with my handmade pvc pipe 40 pound bow. It works really well

    • @wk9953
      @wk9953 Před 7 lety

      Raquel Bauman and crossbows were in the 300lb to 1000lb range with 300 lb being considered hunting weight

    • @sandervanduren2779
      @sandervanduren2779 Před 7 lety

      Raquel Bauman you do realize that longbows found on the wreck of the Mary Rose, that have been sitting underwater for literally 500 years were around 100 pounds when tested. It was estimated that before these bows are submerged, they would pull about 160-180 pounds.

  • @stefanodogg280
    @stefanodogg280 Před 6 lety

    Wonderful. I'm going to have a full woodshop and forge soon and basically I'm an info sponge right now

  • @Kurogane_666
    @Kurogane_666 Před 5 lety

    What size metal did you start with? im trying to make 1 1/4 inches wide finished, but id liek to have 1 1/2 wide broadheads

  • @Gurudwara-ataksar_sahib-bhupal

    Good job

  • @mateuseliastemporim4358

    Parabens uma arte milenar que ainda existe.

  • @alexrocharamos2908
    @alexrocharamos2908 Před 6 lety

    Parabéns muito bom trabalho

  • @user-jk8jq8dt9q
    @user-jk8jq8dt9q Před 6 lety

    Молодец, очень понравилось.

  • @bikedream6664
    @bikedream6664 Před 4 lety

    What is the diameter of the iron bar please ?

  • @davestrider9535
    @davestrider9535 Před 7 lety +3

    guessing that's just mild steel right?

    • @phoenixforge5944
      @phoenixforge5944  Před 7 lety +2

      The originals would have just been Wrought Iron for the most part but these are made from EN8

    • @davestrider9535
      @davestrider9535 Před 7 lety

      alright, so you think some crappy steel like rebar or something would work?

    • @drason69
      @drason69 Před 7 lety +3

      Rebar will work. But remember, rebar is different from one batch to the next.

    • @davestrider9535
      @davestrider9535 Před 7 lety

      oh yea definitely, but if it's for arrowheads that can be reshaped and only occasionally suffer impact then it should be alright. thanks a bunch!

    • @javanbybee4822
      @javanbybee4822 Před 4 lety

      @@davestrider9535 yes just quench the rebar to try and get some hardness from it. coil spring also works amazing!

  • @johnclaudio8799
    @johnclaudio8799 Před 6 lety

    I think I'll do one, but with a different way

    • @ryandejong7374
      @ryandejong7374 Před 6 lety

      I think I’ll just go to the store and buy them

  • @JackRobin86
    @JackRobin86 Před 7 lety

    You really need to dress the face of your crosspeen hammer into a very slight dome. Apart from the dressed edges, it looks completely flat.

    • @phoenixforge5944
      @phoenixforge5944  Před 7 lety

      KyleG. Got lots of different crosspeins to choose from thats my favourite for this job. Lets you get right in the corner

    • @ateleskier7066
      @ateleskier7066 Před 5 lety

      @@phoenixforge5944 Someone telling a craftsman, whose film we just watched, how to do it better always makes me smile.

  • @etanateixeira3045
    @etanateixeira3045 Před 5 lety

    👍👍👍

  • @kennethkustren9381
    @kennethkustren9381 Před 5 lety

    My simple question... why not 3 or more lengths in the fire ??? WTF !!??

  • @mariasoledadsotelo4514

    De donde eres

  • @einarvolsung2202
    @einarvolsung2202 Před 7 lety

    very nice

  • @gamefactory6227
    @gamefactory6227 Před 4 lety

    i need only eghait?

  • @woodslore8537
    @woodslore8537 Před 7 lety

    The steel you are using, is it just square stock. Say like you would find at a local hardware store?

    • @leeknivek
      @leeknivek Před 7 lety

      yes, but if you buy steel, buy it at a steel supplier. 20 feet of 1/2" square is, like, $13 at a steel supplier. four feet of 1/2" square at home depot is probably the same or more.

  • @thangninja
    @thangninja Před 4 lety

    Đẹp

  • @bunyamilcapar7767
    @bunyamilcapar7767 Před 4 lety

    Müke

  • @mariasoledadsotelo4514

    Has un video que muedtres tus travajos

  • @cookingmarine7911
    @cookingmarine7911 Před 7 lety +1

    how long does it take to make each Arrowhead?

    • @phoenixforge5944
      @phoenixforge5944  Před 7 lety +1

      You could do it in about 3 heats, depends how much you practice say 5 minutes ish for a bodkin

    • @kkirschkk
      @kkirschkk Před 7 lety

      so do you know how much in historical times [lets say 1200 ce] each would sell for?

    • @kennethkustren9381
      @kennethkustren9381 Před 5 lety

      each takes the time it takes, your arm, the fires btu, and when you can actually start working.
      You... it will never get done. Him... prob less than 2 hrs.

  • @Ilovepinky-lw4ou
    @Ilovepinky-lw4ou Před 3 lety

    Can you please make a insane arrow head

  • @gamefactory6227
    @gamefactory6227 Před 4 lety

    hello ca you do some arrow heads to me?

  • @garychynne1377
    @garychynne1377 Před 7 lety +1

    THANK U GARE

  • @robinvanschie9675
    @robinvanschie9675 Před 7 lety

    can you make a viking mace, would be awesome

    • @woodslore8537
      @woodslore8537 Před 7 lety

      Did the vikings use maces? I know they used swords, spears, seax, and axe. Though I don't recall ever hear mention of the vikings using a mace. Not saying they weren't a thing just never heard of one.

    • @robinvanschie9675
      @robinvanschie9675 Před 7 lety

      there are founding of maces in there period of time but i of course can't know for sure if they used it. i think you can assume they used it.

    • @Jvha761
      @Jvha761 Před 7 lety

      Robin Van Schie No vikings didn't use maces/warhammers.

  • @TheRandomOutdoorsmen
    @TheRandomOutdoorsmen Před 6 lety

    Thank you, so helpful

  • @taxidrivercarl6074
    @taxidrivercarl6074 Před 5 lety +1

    That noise through the video felt like a smoke alarm going off 😖
    Great video but I had to mute it

  • @iainsherwood5918
    @iainsherwood5918 Před 6 lety

    Arrowheads would have mostly been made by apprentices

  • @galtutankamon
    @galtutankamon Před 7 lety

    How heavy is your anvil?

    • @phoenixforge5944
      @phoenixforge5944  Před 7 lety +2

      not sure probably 250-300kg ish

    • @fatfat6389
      @fatfat6389 Před 6 lety

      Everybody talking about arrows, but man that anvil, is the biggest I've seen probably, nice.

  • @AlvaroDantas-lf4xx
    @AlvaroDantas-lf4xx Před 6 lety

    Manda mais dese vídeo eu gostei

  • @gonzalomauriciolara9931

    Thank you master

  • @lopyuoz9709
    @lopyuoz9709 Před 5 lety

    Di jual kh

  • @shamshuddinansari9533
    @shamshuddinansari9533 Před 4 lety

    Sham

  • @kennyclement2823
    @kennyclement2823 Před 5 lety

    How long dose it take you! To make 1?

  • @T90m333
    @T90m333 Před 6 lety

    *МОЛОДЕЦ*

  • @enesbatur5445
    @enesbatur5445 Před 4 lety

    Siz delisiz

  • @maremhuseen1181
    @maremhuseen1181 Před 4 lety +1

    واو على

  • @fajarmubaroq2677
    @fajarmubaroq2677 Před 4 lety

    The apik

  • @joshbarbone189
    @joshbarbone189 Před 4 lety

    Bôrntô forgé

  • @Gameplay-xj6pv
    @Gameplay-xj6pv Před 5 lety

    He meant born to swallow

  • @thomasrobson6370
    @thomasrobson6370 Před 5 lety

    Wow, your fast :-)

  • @user-zq1zy6zc5t
    @user-zq1zy6zc5t Před 4 lety

    😅😅😅😅這樣打好像是電話響起來了 好好聽啊~

  • @s.hoppla8012
    @s.hoppla8012 Před 7 lety +2

    Hey Bornto, you must be much quicker, man! You're to slow

  • @propmakermaker
    @propmakermaker Před 3 lety

    WTF!!!???

  • @slawbhuhuh8686
    @slawbhuhuh8686 Před 7 lety

    Setting speed 0,5

  • @uzbektiger3860
    @uzbektiger3860 Před 5 lety

    mening kanalim @UZBEK TIGER

  • @user-xq2wx4qh5d
    @user-xq2wx4qh5d Před 4 lety +1

    Nice