We FITTED and DISCOVERED some SHOCKING things about GOLF GRIPS bought of TEMU!...

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  • DON'T BUY GOLF GRIPS OFF TEMU WITHOUT WATCHING THIS VIDEO!
    We bought and fitted a full set of GOLF PRIDE MULTI-COMPOUND PLUS 4 golf grips of TEMU... #garymartingolf #temu #SUB
    During fitting a full set of golf grips bought off TEMU, we discovered a few SHOCKING things!
    The grips we fitted...
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  • @gilesbrinkman9798
    @gilesbrinkman9798 Před 7 měsíci +13

    To combat the differing lengths of grip - prior to putting the grips on you could sort the grips shortest - longest then put the shortest on your pitching wedge and longest on your driver to match the differing shaft length? Just a thought

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Great idea! I’ll pin this for others 👍🏼

    • @danielwarren2355
      @danielwarren2355 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Great idea, but Gaz was charging me per hour, so I just needed it done asap.

    • @gmac7947
      @gmac7947 Před 7 měsíci

      Same story here ❤

    • @peterlightowler3807
      @peterlightowler3807 Před 7 měsíci

      Yorkshire tea is the best. And I’m not from Yorkshire!☕️

  • @michaelleech2343
    @michaelleech2343 Před 7 měsíci +8

    I have fitted and used the temu multi compound grips and they are spot on.
    No difference in the real thing 👍👍👍

  • @damarapoledna3636
    @damarapoledna3636 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Actual grip tape will make the grip easier to slide on and straighten properly

  • @johndorenski4127
    @johndorenski4127 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I found that if you use a spray bottle and spray both the tape and inside the grips then they go on great coz you know what happens if you don't put enough spirit on🤔....🎊🌟🤩🥳
    PS give the grips a good clean before using them then that should stop any colour bleeding 😵‍💫

  • @brianmcgowan5218
    @brianmcgowan5218 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Done my own grips many times and for others and best thing I have done is put some frog tape at bottom of old grip and mark the centre before removing them it's easy to line up

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Nice tip

    • @AnotherLostBall
      @AnotherLostBall Před 7 měsíci +1

      I do the same to help with alignment and to know how long to make the tape 👍. Once you’ve done a few clubs it’s easy. I’m happy to buy cheaper grips but would be concerned about buying counterfeit ones from places like temu

  • @craigsnewfoundland2351
    @craigsnewfoundland2351 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Thanks Gary and Dan. I’m regripping my older woods and hybrids over the winter. No name grips from Amazon. Thanks for this!!

  • @ryanthorp7662
    @ryanthorp7662 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I have just received a set of 14 Golf pride Z Grip copies from temu. Happy with the quality and more importantly, It helps keep an already expensive hobby somewhat more affordable.
    Unfortunately lining the pockets of the big brands isnt high up my priority list.

    • @warwickingle9936
      @warwickingle9936 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Big brands do the design and development whilst the parasites copy and paste and NO quality control, including the materials and no responsible disposable of waste...
      Enjoy your pennies saved...perhaps just cut the fingers off your washing gloves lol

  • @tommiethatcher7265
    @tommiethatcher7265 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Really enjoyable video Gaz and very well demonstrated on how to remove and fit grips. Looking forward to seeing how long the Temu grips last

  • @vincentsutherland3175
    @vincentsutherland3175 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Been using iron grips of Temu for a while now… absolutely spot on for money ..

  • @MaartenAnna
    @MaartenAnna Před 7 měsíci +2

    I’m getting myself these new grips for X-mas! 👍

  • @matthewdixon2145
    @matthewdixon2145 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Hi I have had an old set of clubs regripped by my local pro shop but I have added a 3i and a LW to the set and I’m thinking of trying this myself what double sided tape did you use from screw fix and did it fit nicely around the shaft without overlapping please. Also I’d like to say thank you for this series as it’s been very informative 👍

  • @stephenshaw7980
    @stephenshaw7980 Před 7 měsíci

    Good point about gloves Gary, I put some cheap grips on and a brand new white leather glove was black in a few weeks, I know why now

  • @user-ok8fs4yk3y
    @user-ok8fs4yk3y Před 7 měsíci +2

    Hi Gaz fitted some for a friend as he asked me to fit them biggest fault I found was the colour in the grip started to run when I gripped them , I previously worked in golf when I was younger and fitted thousands of grips , these are good for the money but not fully uniform

  • @barrymurton8988
    @barrymurton8988 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great strength tea!

  • @damarapoledna3636
    @damarapoledna3636 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I cut the tape just short so it doesn't show below the grip

  • @patrickkinney4279
    @patrickkinney4279 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great video! I always plug the hole in the grip with a tee, makes the process easier with the solvent. Thanks for all the budget product information!

    • @marksefton751
      @marksefton751 Před 7 měsíci

      I gave this tip to Gaz but he likes makin' life difficult.... With the tee in the end of the grip you've got all day to adjust the alignment... You can even make a cup of Yorkshire tea while contemplating whether or not your grips straight but only if the milk's in wit bag!

    • @patrickkinney4279
      @patrickkinney4279 Před 7 měsíci

      LOL! Well enjoy the tea anyway!@@marksefton751

  • @johnrowntree5450
    @johnrowntree5450 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I don't want to damage Dan's shaft lol pfnarrrr! Great video as usual Gaz.

  • @andrewcourtman9241
    @andrewcourtman9241 Před 23 dny

    Great tip about putting the logo on the underside (I always do that too) but hopefully your subscribers realise that certain grips are designed to go on only the one way ...like the hand positioning ones and ribbed grips (I think some manufacturers still make).

  • @loutennant99
    @loutennant99 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I’m guessing Dan is very happy you didn’t damage his shaft. Nice video Gary. I’m not sure why you’d skimp on something so important but I guess if they work pretty well then it doesn’t matter. Well done. Great content

  • @paulhuk2748
    @paulhuk2748 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great show guys , thanks for doing this, great help, and I can't drink tea, but was taught how to make it, got to give it time to brew, dash of milk, not that chicken soup you made last time, although this one did have a little colour, lol, keep them coming mate.

  • @GOLFADDICT65
    @GOLFADDICT65 Před 3 měsíci

    I currently have Golfpride Tour Velvet Midsize grips on pretty much every thing am gonna try the Golf Pride MCC +4 midsize grips on a couple of my woods to see if i like them and if i do like them will switch them all your thoughts ? thx for your videos cheers from Vulcan Canada

  • @royclose946
    @royclose946 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Well done gaz

  • @karllosty7469
    @karllosty7469 Před 18 dny

    Bought some of the golf pride tour velvet 360 from temu standard size , they felt very thin in my hands , just a heads up use two layers of tape and they will feel like the real ones .

  • @karlhegeler7507
    @karlhegeler7507 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I always clean the shaft of any old residue so they are like brand new, otherwise you can end up with slight lumps under the grips

  • @nelsonnunes8788
    @nelsonnunes8788 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Love these videos gaz. Just have a couple of questions, what is a golf stanley knife? And what do you use it for? Is it to cut through the rough?😂

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci +1

      A golf Stanley knife has a hook blade lol 🪝

  • @francoisdesmoulins-lebeaul4273
    @francoisdesmoulins-lebeaul4273 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I'm using Saplize grips from Amazon and they're about 60 quids for 13 grips plus tape and solvent... There's a bit colours leaking when fitting them one but really nothing much after that. By the way, it's about that time of the year where I do regrip... so yeah, I'll certainly do that again and not use a know brand installed by a pro for way more money!

  • @hudsonrilke
    @hudsonrilke Před 7 měsíci +1

    Neighbours will be gossiping, Dan and Gaz playing with rubber things on the end of shafts.

  • @wajopek2679
    @wajopek2679 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Is that Yorkshire Tea grown in your loft?

  • @stuartcarson9378
    @stuartcarson9378 Před 7 měsíci

    Tea looks great. Nothing worse than milky tea. Good video by the way. Not sure I would go for fake Golfpride grips though.

  • @brianfoster1078
    @brianfoster1078 Před 7 měsíci

    Gaz, Gaz, Gaz! Don’t stir the bag around the mug! Let the bag sit in the water for at least two minutes and then fetch it out without squeezing it out on the side of the mug, then add your milk. You might as well drink Asda own brand the way you’re making tea!
    Great video today, will love to know how these are standing up to use after 6 months or so and that will give us the true answer as to whether they are great value or not.

  • @tommarshall5781
    @tommarshall5781 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Did we ever get an update in how these grips are hilding up?

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 3 měsíci

      Will be coming, last time I spoke to him, he was very happy

  • @kevinsayle766
    @kevinsayle766 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Don’t worry gaz, you won’t be first bloke to damage dans shaft 😂😂🧐

  • @yindyamarra
    @yindyamarra Před 5 měsíci +1

    I’m getting some arriving in a week, I’m only a weekend bashed , watch this space

  • @gilesbrinkman9798
    @gilesbrinkman9798 Před 7 měsíci +2

    As a fellow Yorkshire tea drinker you have just gone up in my expectations! 😂 I drink 16 cups a day - I wonder if they do golf sponsorship deals?!

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci

      Hahah😅 It’s you who needs one 😃

    • @tedstan9734
      @tedstan9734 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I thought the only good thing that comes out of Yorkshire was the M62. But I am a recent convert to Yorkshire tea.
      Loving the videos Gaz.

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci

      @@tedstan9734 haha, good stuff 👌🏼👌🏼

  • @richwheeler5763
    @richwheeler5763 Před 7 měsíci +2

    @Gary - out of interest, where did you get your custom headcovers from? - Great content as usual - enjoying the TEMU vs series! Thanks for heading into the unknown on our behalf 😁

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci +1

      That’s rich. They’re made by PRG, but I don’t think they supply just or or two, I had to order about 48 lol 😅

    • @richwheeler5763
      @richwheeler5763 Před 7 měsíci

      @@garymartingolf HAHA - thankfully i don't lose headcovers like i do golf balls, 48 might be a bit too many...was just after decent plain black ones, thanks i'll have a look anyway 🤓

  • @RajKumar-zm4ll
    @RajKumar-zm4ll Před 7 měsíci +3

    Crap tea try clipper organic tea bags for a rich flavour

  • @fursdons
    @fursdons Před 4 měsíci +1

    Im very interested in the follow up video on wear etc. how far away is that video?

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I’m not quite sure when we posted the video, but I’ll be back home on the 12th February, and I’ll be seeing Dan that week. He’s a regular player, so it should be quite interesting. I would say it will be approx 3 months btw we can film.

  • @melabshier5812
    @melabshier5812 Před 7 měsíci

    I haven't used a glove in 15years or more. So I want tacky grips. Which I clean, along with my clubs, once a week. When it's time to re-grip 3-4 years later, I have the pro shop do it for me. Yes, it costs more rather than doing it myself. But they make some money and keeps them employed. That means more to me than saving a few quid.

  • @matthewthompson6329
    @matthewthompson6329 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Did you compare the weight against a genuine? I’ve had fake grips before and they have generally been quite a bit heavier and all over the shop. Be interested to know if they’ve improved in that area

  • @ericdumont610
    @ericdumont610 Před 7 měsíci +9

    As a plus 2 golfer I bought grips from Temu, 5 months ago, could not be happier with the purchase. I have always said the general public is being ripped off by people like you and marketing by the golfing industry, be careful golfers as most equipment are made in China anyway.

    • @paulhuk2748
      @paulhuk2748 Před 7 měsíci +3

      How the f**k is Gary ripping us off , he's showing where to get cheaper copies and how to fit them.

    • @FW-od1lt
      @FW-od1lt Před 7 měsíci +2

      As a +2 golfer like that makes you the consummate expert to all things golf. No one believes you are a +2 because that makes no difference whether you like the grips or not. As long as they work good on your Strata box set of clubs we are happy for you..

  • @wpk286
    @wpk286 Před 3 měsíci

    I bought some Golf Pride Tour Wrap grips from Temu and they look authentic in every detail. However, the first grip that I put on immediately split at the top as did the second and third grip. I immediately realized that they were fake and of poor quality. Unfortunately, Temu's response was to offer me some discounts on other fake stuff. No thanks.

  • @rorywoods6344
    @rorywoods6344 Před 7 měsíci

    Maybe a sponsorship deal from Yorkshire Tea is on the cards. I am sure that will not bring into question your integrity lol. Next vid you wont be able to move for tea bag boxes. lol Great vid by the way.

  • @donaldwilcoxjr.5212
    @donaldwilcoxjr.5212 Před 7 měsíci

    Switched to 2 sided woven carpet tape 5 years ago when gripping clubs and it is just as good i feel better ...never had a failure or slip of a grip ....and i bought 13 mcc pluss 4 off ebay for 60 dollars us and i have same grips on volkey sm9s from Titleist so i know they are real and i cant find any difference in them ....even if you look inside grip it says golf pride so idk if they are real or fake no strong smell ...and play and feel same ...6 months in play about 3 times week ...

  • @markrobinson3060
    @markrobinson3060 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Would of been interesting to weigh the grips to see the difference I’ve just bought some grips not the temu ones you showing and out of 13 grips the heaviest to lightest only 2 grams

  • @roberthampton6438
    @roberthampton6438 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Buy cheaper genuine grips from a company called ADORE and fit them yourself .the kits are very cheap..😎👍👍🇬🇧

  • @davybell194
    @davybell194 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Very interested to see how these grips hold up after a few rounds

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci +1

      We’ll see ⛳️

    • @ericdumont610
      @ericdumont610 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Great grips , read my post above

    • @jameslovering9158
      @jameslovering9158 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Be fine I've used 2 sets, just as good as originals.... and a fraction of the cost, delivered to my door in 2 weeks from AE. Check the seller has a good record is all.

  • @angryjohn5754
    @angryjohn5754 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Why the big price disparity between Temu & Golf Pride? Are they really worth 2x 3x 4x the price?

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci

      Can’t really conclude on that yet, let’s see how they wear.

  • @daiwilliams5628
    @daiwilliams5628 Před 7 měsíci

    You don't want to Damage Dan's shaft !😂

  • @darrenarbergolf
    @darrenarbergolf Před 7 měsíci +1

    Cannot beat a nice brew of Yorkshire tea. I take mine with 2 sugars. 😂😂

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci

      I’ll remember that for next time you’re at HGC.

    • @darrenarbergolf
      @darrenarbergolf Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@garymartingolf was up there yesterday for a knock, really enjoyed it 👍

  • @TenPester
    @TenPester Před 7 měsíci +1

    The weight range tolerances of them is enough to change swing weight. You might save £30, but the grief they cause over time isn't worth the saving. Not to mention ripping through gloves because of the paint transfer and the harsher chord they use, and try getting the colour out of your hands after a round. They are seriously not worth the hassle to save £30. Support your local pro shop, instead of filling the pockets of companies who never pay tax in the UK. Use the Golf Pride Retail locator to make sure that they are listed as a main seller. Honestly a joke how bold companies are getting selling fake gear to us.

    • @G_Man392
      @G_Man392 Před 4 měsíci

      The saving is a lot more than £30 though. A set of 13 multicompounds on Temu for just shy of £30 delivered. Genuine Golf Pride Multicompund are £12 a pop so 13 will set you back £156. They are easy enough to fit yourself as Gary has shown so the saving is over £120. Even if you regripped using these twice a season there is still a significant saving.

    • @TenPester
      @TenPester Před 4 měsíci

      @@G_Man392 It was a while ago, so I don't know why I said £30. Maybe referencing something said in the video, not sure. I just wouldn't use them myself for the simple reason of weight tolerances. The fake ones are all over the place, and can really mess with the swing weight of your clubs. A really important thing people overlook. To each their own though. It's not always important to people.

  • @barrymurton8988
    @barrymurton8988 Před 7 měsíci

    Wouldn’t a hooked Lino cutter been better?

  • @michaelbarber6200
    @michaelbarber6200 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Gary how long would you expect these grips to last compared to the real deal ?

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci +1

      That’s what we’re going to test. Dan says, he like atleast 12 months use, otherwise he’d feel like it wasn’t worth the saving.

    • @tedstan9734
      @tedstan9734 Před 7 měsíci

      I've used them for many years. I play on average twice a week and you easy get a year out of them. Seriously they're not bad at all.

  • @ForeMoreGolf
    @ForeMoreGolf Před 7 měsíci

    Surely using double-sided tape over actual grip tape would make it harder to get on?

  • @finnguzz6448
    @finnguzz6448 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Done this myself a few times. Use a clean bowl for the white spirit and empty it back in the bottle for next set. Also try wd40 to get rid of glue residue.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @moradyn6485
    @moradyn6485 Před 4 dny

    What kind of liquid did you use fot the clubs?

  • @garyallen1172
    @garyallen1172 Před 7 měsíci +2

    My grips lasted around 9 months and were worn through.

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci

      Would you buy them again?

    • @garyallen1172
      @garyallen1172 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Probably not. They last about a third of the time others would so you are not saving any money.

  • @damarapoledna3636
    @damarapoledna3636 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Goo Gone will remove the old tape residue without scraping

  • @FM-db3ft
    @FM-db3ft Před 3 měsíci

    I wanted to buy a Scotty Cameron headcover but they won’t sell to us. I lost mine, not paying $200+ online, called Scotty Cameron and they only sell if you send your putter in - just asinine. So yeah, I bought a fake cover from Temu and if I lose it, I’m out $20.

  • @lexxwhite747
    @lexxwhite747 Před 7 měsíci +3

    To each his own, but personally for the 5-7 quid a grip I'll stick to the ones I know have been through quality control for length, weight, alignment etc.

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci +2

      I agree. If I couldn’t afford multi compound at £15, I’d personal just use lambkin or gold pride grip at £7-8

    • @lexxwhite747
      @lexxwhite747 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@garymartingolfI buy my grips on sale and keep them at the house til spring, and get the full bag done every year before the start of the season. Usually ends up costing me around 110 quid a year for CP2 wrap grips installed

  • @swinn_e3551
    @swinn_e3551 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Gave me a heart attack when he was bending the first graphite shaft against the door 😮😮😮

    • @danielwarren2355
      @danielwarren2355 Před 7 měsíci +1

      It's the only time Gaz has seen any flex in a shaft 😂

    • @swinn_e3551
      @swinn_e3551 Před 7 měsíci

      @@danielwarren2355 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 and some seepage

  • @damarapoledna3636
    @damarapoledna3636 Před 7 měsíci +2

    So, my probkem is, even if the quality is good, when we knowingly purchase from counterfeiters we are hurting the real golf manufacturers.

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci +1

      If everybody cared as much as you, I wouldn’t be doing the video, but unfortunately, people are buying them, and most are buying them thinking they’re real!

  • @petekenny3774
    @petekenny3774 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Did you weigh them gaz ?? Be interesting

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci +2

      No ☹️ it was suggested that we should of weighed and cut a real and fake one open. We’ll know for next time 👌🏼

  • @MarkSmith-oz9md
    @MarkSmith-oz9md Před 3 dny

    I was hoping for an honest opinion but these guys were against the Temu grips from the jump.
    CNN of golf grips.

  • @DogsHealthShop
    @DogsHealthShop Před 7 měsíci +1

    I don’t need to say anything do I , you already know…..

  • @CHR15Y-BoY
    @CHR15Y-BoY Před 7 měsíci

    I had some fake grips from eBay once and they lasted 6 months, poor quality never again

  • @phildavis1825
    @phildavis1825 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Never touch another mans shaft, especially with a Stanley knife!

  • @bluestuable
    @bluestuable Před 7 měsíci +1

    when I re-grip my clubs I always use proper grip tape, I don't see the point using the wrong kind of tape. It's like you're deliberately setting up these grips to fail!

  • @barrymurton8988
    @barrymurton8988 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Is that because your not using the correct tape?

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci +1

      No, they’re actually easier to align when the tapes a-bit gripper, i should of cut one to look inside, I think they’re just aren’t quite perfectly round. I mean, I were being picky, they weren’t bad, just not as good as real.

  • @loutennant99
    @loutennant99 Před 7 měsíci

    Oh. Just a serious point. Are you leaving yourself open to legal action from golf pride for buying /advertising counterfeit products??

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci +1

      It’s not illegal to buy counterfeit goods in the UK, it’s illegal to make and sell them. Thanks Colin

    • @loutennant99
      @loutennant99 Před 7 měsíci

      @@garymartingolf good. Wasn’t sure.

  • @warwickingle9936
    @warwickingle9936 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Buying fakes knowingly highlights the lack of knowledge in the whole design to environment....
    Buy cheap....buy twice....and double landfill...

  • @wajopek2679
    @wajopek2679 Před 7 měsíci +1

    “Trotters Grips”.
    Did I see you put an orange grip on a Hzdus PXG club🫣. It would be good if you compared the gram weight of the new grip to the old one and work out what difference if any it will have to the swing weight.

  • @chillyerbeans3756
    @chillyerbeans3756 Před 7 měsíci

    The golf industry is built on deception and snobbery. These grips are as near as makes no difference to the expensive ones. Always makes me laugh when a new set of irons comes to market and the hype begins on what basicallly is a lump of steel (within specifications) glued to a piece of mass produced length of low grade chrome plated steel. Come on get real. The fact that you may be put off by the fact that it might get your expensive glove dirty is a bit tragic.

    • @garymartingolf
      @garymartingolf  Před 7 měsíci

      Chill yer beans

    • @alexkeighley4354
      @alexkeighley4354 Před 7 měsíci

      Knowingly buying cheap fakes shows your lack of knowledge for the environment., use the money you've saved to educate yourself.

    • @chillyerbeans3756
      @chillyerbeans3756 Před 7 měsíci

      @@alexkeighley4354 lol I'm educated enough to be able work out the amount of negative landscaping and harmful pesticides that golf courses put into the environment