This Painting Ruined Her Life. Here's Why.
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- čas přidán 22. 03. 2024
- This piece is called Portrait of Mlle Lange As Danaë by Anne-Louis Girodet de Roussy-Trioson. This painting was the artist's way of getting revenge on the model. But what started off as a means of getting even destroyed the model’s reputation, ruined her career, and forced her to leave the country. But what about this painting could be so bad? Let’s start with the artist.
Girodet was born into an upper class family in the town of Montargis in France. He didn’t have the most easy-going personality. He was known to be “arrogant, spoiled and quick to pick a fight” as described by the Minneapolis Institute of Art, where this painting is currently on view. He was also rebellious, both personally and professionally as he drifted from the rigid neoclassical style taught to him by David and leaned into more of a romantic style. In hindsight, he’s seen as an early proponent of what would become the Romantic art movement.
Girodet won the highly coveted Prix de Rome scholarship with his piece the Story of Joseph and his Brethren when he was only 22 years old. This awarded him the ability to travel to Italy to further his studies. It was likely when he returned to France a few years later that he crossed paths with the beautiful and talented Miss Lange. Girodet first met her at the Salon of 1793 at which point she had worked her way up, through multiple successful roles, to being a well-known actress. Mlle Lange was known for her acting skills but she was also known for her romantic affairs with wealthy men.
It’s debated whether it was Lange or her new husband who commissioned this painting of her from Girodet, but one thing’s for sure: once it was completed, she hated it.
When Girodet submitted this piece to the Paris Salon, Lange was horrified because she thought it was horribly unflattering of her. She was so enraged that she demanded the artist remove the painting from public view immediately and told him she would only pay him half of the original agreed upon price.
Girodet was furious at her response but he didn’t just get mad, he got revenge. Since Mlle Lange didn’t like the first painting he made of her, he decided he’d make her another one. But that’s not all he did. First, he removed the original from the Salon wall, tore it into pieces, and had it delivered to Lange’s house. Then he spent the next 15 days working on a second painting he submitted to the Salon in place of the other one. Not only did he stick it in the exact same spot as the original painting, he displayed it in the same frame as well.
We’re confronted with Mlle Lange posing as Danaë, a figure in Greek Mythology. Danaë was the daughter of King Acrisius of Argos. King Acrisius found out that he was destined to be killed by his grandson. To prevent his deadly fate, he locked Danaë in a bronze chamber to make sure she couldn’t have a baby. But, Zeus, the king of the gods, desired Danaë so he came to her in the form of a shower of golden rain, impregnating her. Traditionally, artists depicted sitters as mythological figures to emphasize their strengths. But Girodet turned this idea on its head, spotlighting Lange’s flaws instead. Watch the video to learn all of the brazen symbolism in this painting.
When this painting was displayed at the Salon, it scandalized Paris. So much so that it was taken off display only 2 days later, but the damage was already done at that point. Consequently, Girodet’s reputation took a hit; the public saw him as ruthless and greedy. However, in time, his career rebounded.
While the artist's reputation recovered, Mlle Lange’s life as she knew it was over. After the painting was exhibited in the Paris Salon, it caused such a scandal that she quit acting and moved to Italy where she remained for the rest of her life. Years later, on a visit to France she saw a print after Girodet's Danae. Overwhelmed with emotion seeing it, she remarked that the painting would make her die of grief. She passed away in Florence in 1816 at the age of 43.
What do you think? Do you believe Girodet was justified in creating this revenge painting or do you think he took it too far? Thanks for watching!
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I can't believe he was able to plan and execute all that symbolism in just 15 days
Let alone the oil paint to dry that quickly.
Revenge is a great motivator
I was thinking exactly the same thing. For such a ferocious vengeance, ..huh..undiagnosed narcissist perhaps?!!
That was my thought too! Pulling this off in 15 days is unbridled obsession
That guy was just as angry as he was dedicated.
AITA classical art edition.
🤣
I vote YTA on this one. Dude was a little B.
TIFU because i didn't like a portrait of me
No matter how long people are on earth life basically stays the same.
ETA
It’s sad that videos like this get demonetized- if it’s allowed in a museum, it should be allowed on CZcams.
CZcams is a totally unsuitable site for educational content. Historical channels have also taken a huge hit since the monetization catastrophe, since most of history deals with sensitive subjects.
CZcams is for feeding advertising to kids.
Because of the nudity in the painting!?😮
I bet your allowed to show violence, murder and war (hopefully, not real but it wouldn't surprise me if they do)!
They let fking frags go around naked but god forbid you show a picture of the human body. This hypocrisy should be unacceptable.
@@Teodor.what’s a frag?
Adding her daughter was definitely going too far!
Agreed, the dispute between Girodet and Lange is a "he said she said" situation (maybe Lange has asked for specific changes and Girodet didn't implement it, maybe Girodet has shown her a draft before and she ok'd it, we just don't know), but even if Lange is 100% at fault, Girodet could have easily left the little girl out of the picture.
totally agreed, but i dont mind if he is putting the adult or matured version of the daughter.
That's a sticking point to me too. But in those days, people were a LOT less protective of children.
I get the feeling one of his big criticisms is that she is a poor influence on her daughter. Notice how she is helping collect the coins, and how the mother's hand is placed directly on her head - I think he is sending a very clear message about how she is being raised.
So too far? Yeah... But given what (I think) the critique is, it needed to be said (or painted, in this case).
Talk shit get hit.
Hell hath no fury like an artist being told they're mid.
Id say he got the last laugh considering his career continued to grow.
Quoth the Starbucks batista
@@bestplayeralive Maybe? But apparently he deeply regretted that work, and if he went so far as to refuse showing it to anyone, it probably meant it was a point of personal embarrassment. When we act in anger or hate we're often left to live with the consequences on our psyches. With time your memory of a persona slight will fade, but remember an evil you committed tends to stay fresh, if you're not a sociopath that is.
Lol
mid mid mid
Reminds me of a Knight's Tale and Chaucer's lines: "I will eviscerate you in fiction. Every pimple, every character flaw. I was naked for a day; you will be naked for eternity."
ugh.. I love this
Brutal 😮
What did he do on the day he was naked?
Chaucer, on the day that he was naked, (according to the film A Knight’s Tale) trudged.
To which the contemporary, over 9000 level IQ internet retort outside "u mad bro" would be "they're living rent free in your head." Funny how every troll paints themselves a Rembrandt, yet with the skill of Steve-O and notoriety of a droplet off a urinal.
As an artists I can see why he felt scammed about receiving half of the pay he was promised, but my sympathy ends there. Everything after that was EXPLICITLY about his own pride. And it's sad that this scenario kept happening back then. Especially considering that he was a flourishing artists with a great career that wouldn't have taken a hit. But nope. Woman makes you mad? Ruin her entire reputation and livelihood.
Exactly. He went too far to just ruin her whole life like that.
As a woman, I have no sympathy for elite prostitutes. I think they should know their place and not pretend to be aristocrats. Today's and then's.
Exactly.
I feel the same, I drew the line with the child. Also... did he appealed to court to get paid what they agreed? I am sorry, maybe I don't know how it worked back then.
Please stop virtue signalling, there’s no-one but strangers here. This was a bad ass move and she had it coming for being a scoundrel. I might add, none of the things he depicted were untrue, she didn’t conduct herself very well at all
amazing how back then, the audience quickly comprehend the content of a full-length feature film out of Hollywood woven into a single painting.
And it was better.
Well, the audience did consist of art snobs. It is pretty much their job to understand those references. It is not as if your average Parisian at the time would have understood.
@@jodofe4879'Art snobs' is a bit much. A limited educated elite certainly (this was not art for the masses) but appreciating and understanding the contemporary arts was part of everyday life for the 'upper strata' of European societies back then. Doesn't make them all 'Art Snobs'.
With much less sources, people were exposed to pretty much the same things at all times. So what we'd call an "inside joke" would have been just something normal to them.
I love how she narrated her videos, it's so humorous and quirky.
Go girlie!
Thank you so much for saying this!
Same
I like the very subtle "gobble gobble" of the turkey, and the understated "Ahem... " at 6:34. That gave me a chuckle.
I DID AN ESSAY ON THIS PAINTING!!! Never thought I’d see it covered on this channel!
I suspect that she didn’t like the Venus painting because it depicted her too scandalously and she wanted to distance herself from her promiscuous past as an actress, I mean, she was almost put in jail for the part she played in that royalist play in 1793. But then again, she must have posed for it herself, and it wasn’t scandalous to depict a goddess nude. Maybe she thought it made her seem vain? It does show her gazing into a mirror
* has a nude painting done of herself *
Why did you make me look so vain?¿?
Methinks Girodet made several studies of Lange, while working out the composition for the first painting. The artist just pulled out one of the studies, and made a new painting with it.
Could be the mirror bit. Maybe she told him she didn't like it because it made her look vain and he said "Okay I'll make another painting where you're too busy being greedy to look at the broken mirror in your hand"
The coin killing the fidelity dove, not only represents Lange’s infidelity but that of Zeus as well. Zeus was known for his adulterous marriage with his sister Hera, who was known for her jealousy, so he took on various forms so she wouldn’t recognise him. Examples of this include him being a bull for Europa, a swan for Leda, a satyr for Antiope, Artemis for Callisto and a golden shower for Danae. These shapeshifting sexcapades were almost always found out by Hera, who mistreated her husband’s lover. Infact she tells Acrisius what happens and he throws Danae and her son Perseus in a box into the sea. Luckily they both survive. Despite not appearing in the painting, her sacred bird the peacock does appear.
By "her sacred bird," you mean Hera's, just to clarify the pronoun's referent. But I had forgotten Perseus was the result of the golden shower, and the peacock/Hera connection whizzed right past me, because I stopped at Vanity. Thanks for this comment. I'm pretty good on Christian symbolism, but I'm not so swift on the Classical symbol-set. I like filling in the many large blanks in my knowledge of Classical images.
Zeus was known for raping girls, boys, & women, not merely for cheating on his wife or seducing others. This Greek king of the gods, later the Roman version called Jove, like many of the classical gods & heroes, took the form of various animals (& clouds, etc) in order to first entice, then rape his victims. His sexual partners were seldom willing participants.
As I learned from studying Latin in high school, the classical Greek & later Roman cultures were extremely patriarchal. Rape of women, girls & boys, was acceptable. Translating the myths, which were often told in a romantic way, the object of desire often tried to avoid the rapist god or hero by transforming themselves into trees or flowering plants, thus occasionally succeeding in preventing the rape.
My favorite myth was that of Circe & the Argonauts led by Jason, because the male aggressors had the tables turned on them, at least temporarily. Circe & her Sirens, who inhabited their own island, lured Jason & his crew to the island by singing very alluringly, & Jason & his men landing there expecting to exploit the sirens sexually in clearly violent ways. But Circe transformed the men into swine, who proceeded to snort & root about for food.
Unfortunately, Jason is able to break the spell & escape with his crew.
Speaking of Zeus or Jove or the great mythological male heroes, using terms that indicate consensual sex with women or girls or boys as a rule gives an entirely false impression of these cultures.
Western patriarchal structures are largely based upon those of ancient Rome, including marriage as a social & legal structure, & are still deeply embedded in modern society. The family consisted of the male head of household, who legally owned his wife & children, with his wife usually in charge of other slaves who served the household---that is, the wife acted as an overseer but was nonetheless still a slave herself. Upon reaching legal age, a daughter was transferred from her father to her husband's ownership. Male offspring, upon reaching legal age were legally freed & were expected to marry & become head & master of their own families. This & many other ancient customs are still found in modern wedding traditions, such as the father "giving away" his daughter to her husband. But until into the 20th c., western marriage was still very closely aligned with the ancient Roman institution of the husband/father as legal owner of his wife & children.
Definetely unfair. Spider deserves some pay for ridding the studio of mosquitos.
Does the spider represent Girodet??
@@peterbillings3276To be a fly on the - *slurp*
That is one hell of a story. I wouldn't have expected that painting to have a dark story behind it. Great video 👍
I don't think I am mad at the dude as much as I am mad that his reputation recovered after some while, while she was literally forced to move out of the country out of shame. Plus her daughter had nothing to do with the whole thing, that was definitely too far on his part. And I have to assume that the fact we can know all of those details of her life, means that most people in her time probably knew it too, nothing in that painting was supposed to be news to them, nothing should have changed, but because some petty artist dared to talked about it publicly, it's suddenly not that ok. And he really isn't one to judge someone else's greed, when he himself was born rich enough to not even need to be greedy and commit morally questionable deeds like she had to in order to rise to the top of society
That's the point. The double standard of a guy who came from a well-off family does something "scandalous" by societal standards and eventually his reputation will define long run after a taking a small hit. While a woman without much means who has children out of wedlock get hit with a scandal it wrecks her life. This is something like has been going on for a long time. However, no one ever talks about it.
Well put, the double standards are astonishing.
Did you just literally justify someone's greed and morally questionable deeds and that people who are born rich cannot morally question someone's greed?
So next time a mugger kills your family and loots them, he is not wrong because.imagine if you were born in the same conditions as him.
It is also astonishing that you call a man not receiving his pay as petty as if it is his fault.
Really reveals pathetic mentality of the certain sections of society
@@johnlove2954not paying enough for a painting is comparable to murdering someone to you?
@@johnlove2954 that's why I said I don't judge him as much as I judge the double standards that allowed his reputation to recover after a while while she had to leave the country. Her wrongdoing was not respecting the agreement she had with the artist, but nothing in the revenge painting was about criticing that action, it was all about her getting expensive gifts from her lovers and her having a daughter outside marriage, what exactly makes her greedy? If the artist wanted to actually criticize her for not paying to him, that's what the painting would have focused on, but it didnt
Not friggin' justified. This is like the revenge porn of it's day. No possible justification, and that was before he added her innocent daughter to the thing.
she didnt pay, she suffered the consequences. that's her fault
I love that shit
@@breadispain454 I hope you come to understand the full meaning in time.
@@Laocoon283 That is so unkind, you're the type who deserves this treatment. You want to hurt women, not protect them.
@@edelweissdebergbaldrian7696 it's hot af is what it is
What I want to know is how you find these wonderfully bizarre works of art with their even more outlandish but entertaining stories! 😊
@@joeybloey3631 I took an art history class. It was definitely not as entertaining as this channel!
I don't understand people in the past.
Lady - has her naked body exposed in a painting= no problem
Also Lady--her naked body exposed plus a few symbols =tragedy. Ruined reputation.
I think that Lange’s daughter is supposed to be Psyche because Psyche usually is portrayed with having butterfly wings and Lange’s daughter has them, too
Reminds me of those despicable revenge acts that happen on social media, with private pictures and videos exposed to thousands or even millions - or those horrible acts of throwing acid into a victim's face that are just heart-breaking to read about. Even if there is some small level of justification to the initial emotion, in no way does it excuse something so cruel. And afterward the perpetrator sheds crocodile tears and are forgiven or at least forgotten, while the actual victim has no real way of ever escaping the torment that was done to them.
I have never known about this piece, and maybe she would have preferred it that way, but at the very least the truth should be known to anyone who does see it.
You sound european, mostly because you tried to empathize with an "acid-attacker" (we can't really say what we want to say can we?). I hope you didn't vote for those poor poor people to come into your country, if so you have nothing to complain about now do you?
@gymbmymb3465 I think you need to work on your reading comprehension. Is English your first language?
@@kayerk "Even if there is some small level of justification to the initial emotion" Right there, you read the rest of their comment and assumed there was no empathy didn't you? Perhaps your reading comp is the one in question dear, or maybe I said exactly what I said to incense people like you who have made great errors in judgement.
Errors so great you have to worry about acid attacks from complete strangers.
It doesn’t excuse his actions-but I’m glad he at least felt shame about it eventually.
This is my comfort channel. Its also about art. Double win❤❤❤❤
Paintings are supposed to convey impactful messages. But sometimes they could often their subjects too harshly to the point of absolute no return.
Imagine studying your whole life to become an amazing artist, only to use that talent to call some lady a sl*t in 50 different languages
This was fascinating! Thank you!
Thank you!
Please folks, don’t paint in anger.
I think spite can be a good motivator for art. Just depends on how it’s used.
Considering how good the painting is, especially in terms of symbolist art - I would disagree.
Which would spell the end of painting, but ok
He paints pretty neatly and calmly when angry😅 I wonder how he paints Not angry
Revenge porn of the day. I don’t recall seeing pubic hair in paintings of this era - I wonder if that was controversial
It was during a time when primped wigs were all the rage for those who could afford them. A part from natural hair marking you as low class, STDs like syphilis and lice of all sorts were even more rampant than today. People expected there was only one unclean reason to hide.
Not at all.
thanks for explaining paintings!
Girodet and Mademoiselle Lange both seem unlikable, yet the painting is executed so well and the story interesting and filled with controversy. Lucky for me, it currently is hanging within a couple of miles from my home at The Minneapolis Institute of Arts. Not exactly a backwater, but I don't often see features on artworks to which I have ready access. Thank you!
What's impressive to me is that people used to be able to "read" and understand paintings like this. If someone were to paint the exact same painting today, but painted with some other famous person as the model, nobody would know any of the significance of any of the symbols. Everyone would likely just say it's a nice painting.
But we can read film this way. We have the media literacy that reflects what our culture emphasises.
@@laurenpeacock6343 oh, I totally agree. I love painting and would love to have lived with the Old Masters or 19th century masters. But film is our culture's current art form.
That is a nice painting!
He took it too far. All she said was she didn't like the painting. Though she should have honored the original price. Still that painting was not okay, and I’m glad he later regretted it,
Not paying is the main problem that you think is minor issue.
It isn't minor issue here.
So you're saying it's okay to do all of this evil shit and involve an innocent child who had nothing to do with it just because someone doesn't pay you (even though he didn't do what he was supposed to do in turn not earning that pay so I agree with what she did hell she was being kind even giving him anything at all- if I hire someone for say landscaping and they do a half assed job, don't do all of what I asked for or don't do any of what I asked for instead only doing what they want to do then they're not getting paid because they didn't uphold their end of the deal and in your mind if that happens then they have the right to release revenge porn of me, attack my children, attack the people in my life, attack me, shame my livelihood, shame the people who choose on their own accord with their own free will to participate in that livelihood they weren't forced, and ruin my life on top of my loved ones and anyone else within range so much so that I have to flee my home while he barely gets a slap on the wrist and goes on to live his best life)? 😬 He was nothing more then an arrogant selfish immature man baby who was so far up his own ass that he couldn't see how much of a POS he was being and couldn't fathom how someone could even dare to not like his "PeRfEcT" art work on top of being from the upper class and living in a solely man's world where women were nothing but shit on their shoes so please spare me 🙄 He even regretted doing it later on so obviously once he got older and hopefully more wiser and mature even he knew how bad what he did was so obviously it's bad 🤷🏻♀️ Back then a woman's reputation was life or death and even a hint of scandal could ruin her (even though men did it and were even encouraged to do those same things the double standards were very real back then).
Even if he had done exactly what she wanted to the T she still didn't deserve what happened to her and to her innocent loved ones. No excuse.
Her mass infidelities no doubt had major impacts on innocent wives and children. She reaped what she sowed. I feel bad about her kid though and I bet that’s why the artist regretted his ire.
@@parthsavyasachi9348 It literally is when a woman’s life is ruined. Plus she did pay, but half the amount. So again, minor.
@@holyrandomness5654 the fact that her life is ruined by it shows that it isn't minor issue.
She got what she deserved. You also sound like someone who doesn't value other persons hardwork.
Disgusting.
Am I the only one who now wants to know ALL ABOUT the lady in the painting? Sounds like she led quite a life.
He didn't take revenge. He ruined her life and totally ruined her life. While ge regretted it later it didnt undo the damage. He also ruined an innocent child's life to be petty. He was the villain but he never got any karma. His reputation was safe but misogyny totally ruined her life. She was just a woman trying to survive and make a life for her daughter but the world called her immoral for that.
While no doubt that same world lined up to sleep with her, the hypocrisy women face from society is insane.
He was a petulant brat who ruined a woman out of spite. About as far from "justified" as one can get.
It's OK though because boobies. Well played Girodet, well played...
She was just as petulant...
Bruh? She payed him half of what she agreed with him because she decide that such a beautifully made portrait was somehow "unflattering"
Imagine spending god knows how many hours and resources making a painting like that just to be told that it sucks and then getting just half of what you were meant to get because the one who comissioned it decided that they don't like it
All the time and resources lost plus the damage to his credibility as an artist and the disrespect from the models part
What she did is nothing short of theft, she's a bitch
Society hasn't changed a bit. If genders were reversed the same act would be praised and people would say he deserved it.
We live in very misandrist society
Not like he made anything up if she was truly a vain, selfish woman who cheated on all of her partners. Truly she ruined herself by being a shit human being. He just pointed it out
Me, seeing the tumbnail: Oh my God! What a beautiful painting! Also me, reading the tittle: Oh sh*t, not another madame X situation.
I'm not going to lie, all that simbolism the artist implemented in the painting just to basicaly call the model an unfaithfull, greedy and shallow b*tch, is kinda impresive.... But using her daughter to throw shade at her was defenetly going too far.
I don't believe the model deserved to have her reputation destroyed.
I also thought of Madame X
Oh your videos are always so well written, told, edited and executed. I enjoy every video you make. ❤
Thank you for another very interesting story behind the painting. Looking forward to the next.
Yay!!! Another Art Deco video!!!💚
I've been a long-time viewer now, and I'm so very happy I found you! Not only are your videos entertaining and fun, but your explanations make it so much easier for me to digest and understand😅
Fascinating! Many thanks for this detailed explanation.
Thank you for another terrific story!
Another great video. Thanks.
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I love your videos their educational and fun! Please continue what you're doing I never miss any of your videos. Lots of love to you
Enjoy your interpretations of these masterpieces. I would not have known any of this, so thank you. Look forward to your next painting review.
Excellent video! I teach art appreciation and have not seen this painting. I will be adding it to my class.
I think he forgot about one thing which was others trust in him. This no doubt put off anyone from working with him for a while. So of course it hit his reputation, likely being seen as a spiteful person who wanted to get back at a client. He should have insisted instead to redo the original one and ask the person which parts are unflattering. It would have instead made his reputation better and improved his image as someone who works well with clients. Instead he got the deserved recognition of his reputation taking a hit. Likely because others might have saw it as ‘he could do this to us too.’
I absolutely love your videos! All the history behind these paintings is so interesting!
Another awesome and thought provoking vid!!! I'd love to see you do Guernica by Picasso!!
Please mever stop these videos! You do them so well :)
I absolutely love your videos!
Very informative and humorous, too.
Not the point of this particular look into art and history. But Zeus, I think got someone pregnant by urinating on them from above.
You don't do the swan thing, but also impregnate someone with gold, Zeus was a sick freak... And now that I stop to think about it, screwing up someone's life with a painting of them without clothes on and using the rest of the scenery to humiliate someone before poetically ending them with a broken heart sounds like something that old boy would do.
Great video, what I said means nothing, just Zeus was the kind of sick, unfiltered freak who would surprise a gal with pregnancy pee.
I so much love your explanation of paintings. ❤❤❤
Defiantly not justified. Her daughter didn't do anything!
True, but it's not like he made anything humiliating regarding the daughter herself, he just put her in there in relation to the lady.
Way Too Harsh!
I've heard somewhere that peacock feathers also represented homesexuality!
Perhaps it can represent more than just infidelity to include some sorta non-conventional or socially improper relationships?
Or did I misunderstand the meaning or interpretation of a peacock feather.
Even today calling or branding someone a 'turkey' is pejorative.
I also wondered of the artist didn't have a crush on her that wasn't reciprocal, prompting such harsh treatment.
FYI: Only in the sense that “peacock” represents a “dandy”- so it is not sexually suggestive, but more of an attitude of vanity in one’s carriage. (Not all “dandy”’s are homosexual, not all homosexuals are dandy’s.)
@@evelanpatton I was thinking of Edmund Dulac's, 'Charles Ricketts & Charles Shannon'... monks, hinting a male bond w/a peacock feather held in hand.
Maybe, perhaps a Rorschach Test exposing more of me than the art??? LOL
Thank you for the wonderful video!
I love your videos. I adore older paintings precisely for this reason, they all have a story behind them, but unfortunately I don't know the story!
Your videos are always so well researched and written, they are a joy to watch 🏵🌼🌻
I swear I learn more and more about painting interpretation from this channel
I enjoy your analyses of these paintings. You describe the technical artistry plus you bring some history which informs the deeper symbolism all with a light humorous touch. Really entertaining and informative at the same time. Wish you had taught my art history classes.
The detail in this painting is astounding.
This is what society lives for today. But, the symbolism is lost to many. I love it. I want to learn about the symbolism and all that. 😊
This painting is in Minnesota? That's where I live!!
New video! Awesome!
This is easily one of the best channels on CZcams.
I like a good revenge story myself. However, I doubt I would have liked Girodet regardless.
This painting contradicts the old adage "revenge is a dish best served cold" Girodet wasted no time to let his wrath over the perceived insult cool down.
Highly creative people are as vicious as anyone else. Only they express it so much better.
The first portrait was lovely.
I love your content, it is informative and entertaining.
So, basically, this painting is the original revenge pornagraphy before revenge pornagraphy was even a thing.
Daaaaaamn, Girodet... hoooly molly he's a madlad.
No . He was a monster.
I loved the first one... adore this show..men just can't stand rejection of any kind.😂
Some men. Don’t make blanket statements about men if you don’t like when they do it about women.
@@user-qv4np3ur5w did you notice the laughing emoji..I was joking..WoW
If it doesn't apply, let it fly.
@@ABeautfulMess Typical cop out lol "I wAs JoKIng!?"
He wasn’t rejected though. She didn’t pay him the planned amount apparently.
Now that is the power of art!😀
Love the video as always! Just wondered - what’s the symbolism behind the butterfly (?) wings on her daughter?
Such a shame he tore the first one up. I wonder who stuck it back together? (that’s just how my mind works). Besides that, I love that turkey! What an expression! 😂
I love these videos so much
That's sad, as at first glance the painting is quite beautiful.
Not him using her DAUGHTER in the painting!! What a piece of work this artist!
I love how you easily explain these paintings, youre one of the reasons why i got into art history in the first place!! :)
I would love to hear your thoughts on the painting Hymen, oh Hyménée!
Including her daughter is just plain vile. Nasty behavior. Poor woman.
Without condemning nor condoning… I understand.
This has become the title of 90% of your videos now XD.
@@pliktl I know what it’s called sweetie, no need to be so condescending. 🤗
there is so much intelligence and talent in this painting its amazing...
Maybe the daughter helping to grab money is meant that she will end up like her. I really like how much symbolism they had put in to those paintings. And nice to have someone there can explain it for me.
Thanks Art Deco ! Girodet's works are stunningly beautiful. This is another example of how being involved with an artist IS a double edged sword. By 1793 Lange was already middle-aged for 1790's. She escaped being executed, and should have counted her lucky stars! Girodet also went too far. He supremely insulted her twice. The importance of the Art galleries was unmistakable. The statue on the shelf of Abundance, "Good Hopes and Holy Hearts", they could have lived a different life. So is the story of love's strange path...
Girodet didnt just spill a little tea on a deadbeat actress, he went full on nuclear revenge. But he was an extremely talented a-hole. Both paintings were wonderful.
I'm so very thankful that this exists. You are awesome.
Also, were those cinnamon sticks in the guy's mouth? That makes me quite curious.
To say if it was justified or not is just not possible as we cannot say what had happened between all involved people precisely. But I wouldn’t say it is far fetched to say artists and nobles (then and today) have a tendency to be extremely narcissistic and may therefore be extreme jerks. We should learn from this painting that smear campaigns have always worked with unequal outcomes for affected parties (deserved or undeserved).
both the first and second paintings look great
If you look at the bottom left, you also see the title of Plautus' comedy "Asinaria" (from Latin asinus "donkey"), which is about a couple and a fraud.
How do you know and understand the symbolism in this and many other painting? I am always bewildered by how much you can see and understand. I’m a huge fan of your channel because I love to learn.😊
Appreciate your good works…..
Yep, there are still plenty of jerks out there.... arrogance, envy, jealousy....misogyny ... Great video, well done!
Ok..he was a driven perfectionistic narcissist...and do they ever go for revenge!! One wonders if this was a battle between 2 narcissists even...Of course he'd later have regrets...but only for his own inner shame, thinking he'd been bested in some way. P.s. another highly observant, well researched and educational video!! Thx!
I learn so much from you.
Excellent painting. Amazing effort for 15 days.
the subtle change in her face at 2:22 was amazing, I wonder how you do that, like photoshop? after effects? I'm sure you cant do it on premiere pro.
beautiful art, clever artist. 💙
I love this painting and its one of my favorites at MIA
I’m going to Vienna in July. Are there any specific art pieces that I should look out for?
The fact that the Paris society shunned her for all these alleged actions, says about as much about the Paris of the time where the revolution raged and the guilotine was used as a means of terror on a dayly basis (populist rule sounds nice, but there are certain drawbacks). People who would have defended her would play with their lives due to a bad career choice earlier. Hence, ghosting her was a safer option. In those days, even the Notre Dame was not spared. It was used as a market and to stable horses (accurately depicted in the game Assasins Creed, for those who insist gaming does not expand your horizon 😮).
Thanks!
beautiful paininitng!