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Hey LuckyCrit, what is there to do after you beat the Dungeon of Thabes, im getting kinda bored with the game at this point and the post game seems kinda dry, maybe you canmake a video on tis topic?
I'm so happy right now guys. Just beat the game and found out my potato of a computer can run Path of Radiance relatively well on a Dolphin emulator. That's $120 I'm not spending!
thekylemontilla I had trouble too. I believe nintendo took down most of the download links on big sites. It's risky, but I got it off the Pirate Bay. You'll need a torrent downloader I believe.
Just wanted to point out that, while you do get half of the invested marks added to the exchange value of forged weapons, it does NOT account for if the weapon was previously evolved from another weapon. Thus, an unforged killer bow will have the same exchange value regardless of if it was freshly dropped, or evolved all the way up from an iron bow.
I can confirm that DF are no longer immune to Hex from the Shadow Sword as they were in Gaiden. People may believe this due to looping a DF enough to earn 22 luck (which really isn't that hard to reach unless you're unlucky). At 22 luck, Hex won't ever trigger.
Believe me, even if you have the weapons maxed out, it wont matter unless your troops have the stats for it. Most terrors have more than 25 defense and 30 attack on the later floors, specially when there are fire dragons.
Pssh, my Delthea and Celica can double Fire Dragons with Ragnarok, they die in one round. My Atlas had 33 base attack and my Tobin a 70% crit rate, both of them with maxed Killer Bows. They weren't that scary
StickFigure I know, I'm just saying how dangerous they can be even if you have op troops, I just had Tobin with a brave bow, Kliff with a mage ring, and Delthea with a ladyblade. They crit so much it's not even funny and Kliff reached his max speed so every attack of his would double no matter what. Oh, and I had a Yasha Lukas with Max defense, attack, and skill with a brave sword maxed. Second run through of the dungeon was easy.
In Japan and China, sol(太陽), luna(月光) and astra(流星) they are called the LEGENDARY weapons (伝説の武器). And Mercurius, Gradivus, and Parthia are just called the three artifact weapons (三種の神器) of Archanea.
I'm a year late since I just started echoes recently, but i loved the Golden Sun mention! I remember soft resetting hundreds of times just to get Excalibur and the Darksol blade😫
One of the best weapons to forge into is the Zweihänder in my opinion. High damage, decent hit rate, crit bonus, as well as the Sunder, Penetrate, and Tigerstance skills. Tigerstance adds the unit's Skill to the damage dealt.
Discovering what weapons can evolve into in the game was fun. I honestly enjoyed not knowing what I would get, especially when I decided to evolve the Golden Dagger. THAT was a great surprise!
Or you can just give her Nuibaba's Mage Ring so she can get increased range to make up for her low movement while staying out of melee combat to mitigate her low defense and HP.
The Royal Sword is easily my favorite weapon in this game. It's found pretty early on, its skills are top-notch, it's lightweight and strong, and the pegasus cheese found alongside it lets one obtain exotic spice from the cheese man, giving one enough gold marks to immediately forge it to its strongest form. Oh, and it just flatly never gets outclassed. Even Falchion needs some forging to stand up to it.
Double Lion is just too good, costs 10 hp less than Scendscale (which falchion has) and guarantees a double hit first, there's not many times where you would use scendscale unless for fun, so Royal Sword is more effective in the long run yeah.
echoes is the first fire emblem game I've ever played. I went through blind on purpose (happy I did I've made some huge mistakes lmao) but your channel is making my play through so fun, thanks! just subbed
YAY! I always wondered how to get Celica's ultimate move. Thanks again for the help! (I also learned that it is possible to make a dracoshield if you missed out on getting one, I won't spoil when though...)
Favorite forges were sol, astra and luna, seriously did the herculean task of getting all 3 before the postgame, but other notable weapons i enjoyed were the radiant bow giving a magical weapon option for archers and a nice combat art against terrors, the rapier for anti-Calvary and anti-armor goodness, saunion for being a bow in the form of a throwing lance, and rhomphia for sure, also with alms ultimate skill as an art on the sword to kill duma it is surprisingly really good, and outpreforms the royal sword for me once forged
Really liked this video. Many people do not know about these information about forging and I personally did not know that you can upgrade some of them like the blessed ones into the legendary Regalia ones. Would like to see the Sol - Luna - Astra video at some point in time. Keep up the good work.
Here are some suggestions Dread fighter Lukas (Make him into a knight first) Then when he becomes a mercenary, give him a brave sword. have fun watching lukas destroy anything that approaches him. Killer bow atlas is O.P due to hunter's volley that he learns quite quickly. Pegasus knight Silque is quite good too. I used 2 pegasus cheese on her and she doubles almost anything.
Oh I would have loved this a few weeks ago, but at the very least I'll have the knowledge for future run throughs. Thank you for this concise breakdown Mr.Crit~
Echoes Forged Killer Bows, brave swords, and the 3 Regalia were very useful throughout my play through of whole game. I also forged the Falchion, Royal Sword, and Beloved Zofia to help their stats. As far as rusted weapons, I forged a Dracoshield from a Fafnir in Thabes as well as I have recently required Sol. Missing Luna and Astra right now. This is probably the best forging system in the series imo. It's simple and very easy to use.
Thanks as always for the helpful advice Lucky Crit! Also, I'm interested in a video on Sol, Astra, and Luna! It can probably help lots of people understand how to get them and possibly showing them off.
You can get exotic spice twice during Alm's route in chapter 3' and you can get one for Celica's side doing the dragon fillet quest (honestly you can find these in the inner sanctum without doing the quest). Mila's gift 3 also gives you 5 gold marks.
My 2 cents: Forging the Royal Sword for Alm will give Alm one of the best swords in the game. But there's a catch: *Spoilers* The game kinda forces you to use Falchion on Alm instead once you get to the Final Boss, and Falchion unforged is a lot weaker than Forged Royal Sword, besides having an effectiveness against Terrors. Forged Falchion is a lot more competitive with Forged Royal Sword, Falchion has Terror effectiveness, both have Alm's ultimate Art, Royal Sword I THINK has slightly better raw stats, though I might be wrong, and Royal Sword also has Double Lion. In fact, thinking about it now, Double Lion is probably so stronk that it makes Royal Sword > Falchion whenever you don't need Regicide. Just know that if you forge Royal Sword that Falchion will come along later.
at least you get Royal Sword pretty early and can enjoy it through the whole story before the end where you have to use Falchion. Anyways in my case the last chapter was opening the way for Alm, I had many Gold Knights, Bow Knights and Dread Fighters take the lead with their high mobility while the healers mantained the party alive. Alm basically just advanced slowly with the infantry until I teleported him to finish the encirclement of Duma and deal the final blow. So really, the only thing I did with the Falchion was kill Duma lol. Anyways, you can literally use the Royal Sword at the final boss if you like to lead with Alm, he's the convoy so when you reach Duma you can just change your sword to Falchion and deal the final blow.
I would also like to throw out there that if you upgrade a Shadow Sword one time, you can forge it into an Ilwoon, which is one very powerful sword that can eviscerate armored units with a Death Blow skill
Kinda late but for me getting Parthia was the best investment I ever made, that thing carried me in Thabes since I was under leveled with most units. It’s so broken thanks to the skill, that skill alone saved me from the final boss of the dungeon. Thing is it was my first try doing the dungeon at that point I had one turnwheel left so I really did not want anyone to die in the final boss. Thanks to my Tobin and Parthia however I was able to cheese it, Parthia with the skill allowed me to attack the final boss outside it’s huge range and slowly but surely I was able to chip damage it to death. Parthia for the win!
Lucky Crit I love your videos they help me out so much! thx for the tips and tricks you've shown us through out these past videos you were and will always be a great help.
Echoes! Thanks for the tips with the gold marks, definitely using that a bit. I would like to learn more about the Astra, Luna, and Sol weapons, so if you make a video on that, it would be great. Thanks and keep up the good work! On a side note, will you be doing any videos on Fire Emblem Warriors now that we have more info on the game?
My best forges are my 9 brave weapons, my royal sword, the falchion, the regalia, and a ton of other weapons. The way how I do it is sheer determination and willpower of getting silver marks
So for the Gold Fiend one, do you need to hold onto 30 gold marks at any given time, or just collect 30 gold marks total, regardless of if you've used some or not?
Splatoo Blemier 1- do the necrodragon achievement carry over 2- how did you completed the game in 500 turns and do the dlc turns count? 3 - how did you get the 3 legendary weapons? did you use the dlc to get all 3 ? I need to know m8 ;_;
You can make the Regalia by fully upgrading and evolving the three blessed weapons (Sword, Lance, and Bow). But good luck finding enough gold marks to do that for 2 ok weapons and 1 crappy one. (Oh, and you can find the lance one, but that's kind of a end game spoiler)
Id love to learn more about Astra, Luna, and Sol. I'd also like to know what's up with the Three Regalia. Those things have been popping up a lot in the game lately.
Yeah, the Brave Sword is bonkers. If you have fast enough units with high skill, though, I find Zweihanders to be better only for the higher damage, slightly lower crit and insane skill (Tigerstance, ADDS SKILL TO DAMAGE).
*Echoes!* However--I do disagree on getting rid of all the Shadow Swords. With the "Villager" glitch Dread Masters have, you can cycle the character in level loops, and with enough luck, the Shadow Swords curse will almost never trigger, giving you a deadly powerful blade that sucks out the souls of defeated enemies. Very useful for creating potential one man army-type units if you take the time for it!
You can't forget about the Zweihander. Basically the sword version of Rhomphaia. It unlocks a skill that adds the user's skill stat to their strength when attacking. Just forge a steel sword 2-3 times, then evolve it for 1 gold mark
Yes indeed! It comes up briefly in the video but I didn't want to mention every single forge in the game in depth since that might be boring and repetitive, but in retrospect I probably should have elaborated upon a few more!
Lucky Crit I actually did not know I could get Sol, Luna, and Astra in the endgame dungeon. I've beaten Echoes 14 times already now, and I just got Luna in the Inner Sanctum DLC after just starting Act 2 today on my 15th playthrough. Not even 5 minutes later, I also got Parthia in the same DLC. Now if only I could get a Scorpio shard or 2, I'd have some Star Jacinths on Celica's route.
i made one of the villagers into an class considerd not their convential one and giving them a weapon only obtainable trough forging made them do more then surprisingly well
Despite being a Regalia weapon, it seems to me Mercurius sucks. A lot. Sure, it has 12 MT, 90 Hit, 1 WT when maxed and gives Recovery, but compared to the Silver Sword maxed (same MT, 100 Hit, same WT), it has worse HIT, costs a TON of gold marks to make and max (9!!), and has no skills. Silver Sword only costs 400 silver to max (if you find one instead of making it) and has two immensely useful skills; one gives you a huge evasion bonus and crit bonus, and the other gives a lesser evasion bonus, same crit bonus and IGNORES HALF THE OPPONENT'S DEFENSE. Oh, but I guess you don't get Recovery. So yeah, worse Regalia. Silver Sword best not-Regalia.
I think it's good for Priestesses for the healing effect while also diversifying their effective damage, but I can definitely see your logic with the outrageous cost.
You make a good point. Priestesses don't really need weapon skills, since spells basically do the same, but with more predictable effect (i.e. range, more damage, more WT, more crit, etc.) However, its abysmal starting HIT of 80 (implying you don't bust your whole load to max it) makes it hard to recommend outside the healing factor and weapon damage utility, as a heavily farmed Delthea ended up with only a 70~ chance to hit on a speedier foe, and a 70 might as well be your chance to hit air. A much better Priestess weapon would be Ladyblade. Ladyblade, out of the box, gives Priestesses 12 MT (and 85 Hit, +5 crit) due to the attack doubling for women, so equal to a maxed Mercurius. However, it's Recovery is arguable a lot more important for Priestesses, cause magic = life. I still adamantly stand by my original point, mostly to make up having made the silly thing in the first place and being out 7 gold, lol
wow great video. no wonder i was having trouble with this game. i never bothered to upgrade any of them. i guess i should have. now i want to replay echoes again.
No weapon triangle or breakable weapons in this game kinda sucks. I know there’s no playable axe fighters, but it’s kind of weird that only Alm and female mages ever learn to use a new weapon type. Also single slot inventory...what. This game is faithful to a fault.
... the part about the skills was kind of redundant. Honestly I thought it was really stupid that skills were locked to weapons but since they are there's little point in worrying about them until later game unless you want/need them.
I made Conrad a dread fighter and he along with Sonya and celica were the mvps on her journey, give him and ilwoon and wait for him to get max strength
You forgot to mention that forging a shadow sword allows you upgrade it into the ilwoon. the ilwoon teaches wrath strike, lounge, and death blow. Unforged it has a 70% hit rate, a might of 10, a 15% crit, and a weight of 4. fully forged ilwoon has 13 might, 25% crit, 70% hit, 2 weight, and costs 150 silver marks and 1 gold mark.
Yeah there were definitely a few weapons that in retrospect really should have been in there, but while making the video I sort of thought to just do a handful of top picks so it didn't get boring. But yeah, looking back I do regret not having more great forge options in there.
Another wonderful change following the disaster that was forging in Fates, constantly having to buy multiples of the same damn weapon, forging each several dozen times, for small bonuses each time, when in this game you just dump a certain amount to reap certain rewards. The evolution mechanic adds a ton of depth and, I should note, the Brave Sword can enter a loop where you can forge it back and forth between a Shadow Sword and Brave Sword. PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON SOL, LUNA AND ASTRA WEAPONS!!
+Nic Harris I didn't mention every unique forge as I figured it would get too long winded, but in retrospect yes the Ilwoon would have been worth mentioning!
I see that you had Valbar hooked up with a Leather Shield. I know it's not the best shield, but tbh, my Valbar was holding it for most of Celica's Route. Tbh, the Swap ability, plu Valbar decent defense growth, made him into a really good tank for me.
Is it even worth it farming for the astra, sol, and luna? Because as it is now, there is no wifi arena? I guess I'm looking forward to that potential future video on them
i got an Exotic Spice (only once) in Thabe's Labyrinth and was giddy about it. most interesting enough, a "naturally spawned" Mongoll dropped a rusted lance when i was battling Duma lmao. now im farming Fiends and Deathgoyles in Thabe's and its a pain in the ass. i might get the Dragon Slayer award before ill even get those weapons....
On the Regalia: Gradivus is fantastic, and you can forge one as early as act 3 on Alm's route Mercurius is a pretty good weapon, but is outclassed by some other swords Parthia is absolute trash. A 3-star killer bow does the same damage as a fully forged Parthia, but is more accurate, costs less, weighs less and has a critical chance. Only make Parthia if you want the Archanean Regalia achievement.
A bit late, but I feel like the Beloved Zofia should’ve had Plentitude and Earth's Boon as well, since the Golden Dagger is the only weapon that actually has them.
Yes indeed! That's one that in retrospect I should have included. I didn't want to throw EVERY forge in the game into this video, but looking back Ilwoon should have been in there for sure. Thanks for watching!
well shadow sword can be crazy on dreadfighters tho. they dont care about the curse. although. the high crit on the brave swords is still a sweet treat on them
true. but especially against bulky enemies the sheer insane strengh of the shadow sword helped me to destroy some enemies with dread fighters on a fast promotion run. especially if they did crit anyway :) Just thought many people didnt know that, I read it up when I was wondering why despite the low luck, Jesse never backfired with it.
+ThePokeShapeshifter I didn't mention everything since I thought it would get repetitive and boring, but yeah I'm retrospect I should have mentioned the Ilwoon
it is one of the better weapons, alongside the Zweihander that upgrades from the steel sword XD gave that sword to Delthea when i got her to a priestess, and then nothing could come close to her without getting miced
+Bobby Blob I didn't want to discuss every late game weapon in Echoes as I think it would have gotten boring, but yes, in retrospect the Ilwoon really deserved a spot. Sorry about that!
What they do is allow you to class change a character once they reach level 20 in the final class of a line. But considering how hard it is to get EXP after hitting level 10, there's not a massive chance you'll use them.
Shit! Never expected there would be so many weapons! I thought beloved zofia (the only "rare" weapon i crafted ) was like the rarest ultra late game super exclusive weapon, little did i know...
so far im at close to the end of ch 4, just missing like 3-2 more battle with alm, and damn the curse sword kill me so many time and im on classic, wasn't the best idea but i like the heal after kill effect
Hi there, even though most of the hype of Fire Emblem Echoes has died down and the videos most likely won't do too well, I still intend to make these videos I promised people. Hilariously enough I still need to beat Echoes myself to snag some more footage for the videos I promised (in making all this content I actually never totally beat the game) so that will come first, but if you stay tuned it'll show up eventually. Sorry for the wait.
Fair point. I guess it depends upon if you plan on forging it or not. Some people think it isn't worth it. But the skills are unique as far as I can remember. But you're correct, I suppose there isn't much of a point! I just wanted to make it clear that some items you only get one of and will miss out on the ability of learning previous skills from it.
You can get them from enemy drops, repairing rusted weapons found in the lower floors of Thabes or on DLC. Regardless of the method, they are always extremely rare
But wait, in the 9th floor there's 3 fire Dragons in that Sacred Fountain Room. So we have to beat that group three times for the chance of 6 gold marks?
So is there any point to learning skills on weapons you're going to forge into new ones? I'm aware that skills carry over if they're available on multiple weapons, but in those cases they can just be learned on the better weapon. Is it just to have all the skills on the unit's stat screen? TL;DR Why learn Wrath Strike if you plan on getting rid of your Iron Sword?
Yeah, it's a good question. I mentioned that later in the game this would definitely be relevant, for example a late-game recruit learning an iron sword is probably a waste of time. Early game though they'll come in handy as you play.
Lucky Crit But as for choosing between "upgrade now" and "learn its skills and then upgrade", there's no point in the second option, because once you upgrade a weapon, its old skills are unusable regardless of if you learned them, right?
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Hey LuckyCrit, what is there to do after you beat the Dungeon of Thabes, im getting kinda bored with the game at this point and the post game seems kinda dry, maybe you canmake a video on tis topic?
Lucky Crit think you super super much I didn't not know that you are a big help man think you.😇
did you know falchion increases the amount of silver coins in grass?
Judgement Jones no I did not know that think you
Lucky Crit pls make a walk through of this game with ur voice audio pls ;-;
Berkut - " take this ring my mother gave me, it is my dying wish"
Alm- MONEYYYYyYyyYY
I'm so happy right now guys. Just beat the game and found out my potato of a computer can run Path of Radiance relatively well on a Dolphin emulator. That's $120 I'm not spending!
Enjoy! Dolphin 5 is an amazing thing~
I just finished path of radiance on that emulator, and I'm in act 3 of radiant dawn now! Ike's games are soooooooooo great
The Villain of Overhype where do ypu find your isos? im struggling to find por iso lol and working ar codes for the radiant dawn iso
thekylemontilla I had trouble too. I believe nintendo took down most of the download links on big sites. It's risky, but I got it off the Pirate Bay. You'll need a torrent downloader I believe.
The Villain of Overhype i see. thanks
i am not giving away the ring of my lovely berkut
Don't, the 5 res is reason enough to keep it
Exactly my thoughts.
anyways
I would keep it for personal reasons
Killer Bows are the most broken thing in this game
StickFigure definitely. I had maxed Killer Bows on Tobin and Python for Act 5 and they destroyed everything in their path. lol
Killer weapons were always broken.
They were more broken in Fates.
but not compared to the killer bows here
Well, considering they're basically Brave Bows and Killer Bows in one, yeah they're pretty broken
Don't Forge a Gradivus people
You'll get one of them in the dungeon
I was literally just going to thanks!
Which one?
Paper Luigi the last one
Paper Luigi dumas temple
Can't go wrong with another
I recommend getting a silver bow with Celica's crew as it has ward arrow which is great against cantors
Your master I can't see a way for them to beat out Hunter's volley. Hunter volley is broken.
Your master
Don't all silver weapons have some sort of res boosting art? like how silver lance has mistdance
Ricardo Bourdet Ward Arrow prevents the use of magic. At least that's what the description says.
with silver bows it's just ward arrow. but that prevents enemy mages from using magic attacks for the next turn so you don't even need a res boost.
with the killer bow however
you can prevent cantors from being canters in general
Just wanted to point out that, while you do get half of the invested marks added to the exchange value of forged weapons, it does NOT account for if the weapon was previously evolved from another weapon. Thus, an unforged killer bow will have the same exchange value regardless of if it was freshly dropped, or evolved all the way up from an iron bow.
Very good point!
please talk about all the secrets on Echoes like weapon locations, drops, chests, legendary weapons and such
please!
Zweihander is OP AF on Dread Fighter Grey. honestly there is nothing better to put on him.
antihex was removed in echoes. thats gaiden only afaik.
Zweihander is best on reclassed DF Luthier due to his skill growth, or Jeese.
I can confirm that DF are no longer immune to Hex from the Shadow Sword as they were in Gaiden. People may believe this due to looping a DF enough to earn 22 luck (which really isn't that hard to reach unless you're unlucky). At 22 luck, Hex won't ever trigger.
I gave mine to Saber. He's got way more skill than Gray in my playthrough, hell he's got more than anybody.
I put it on DF Lukas and he destroys efverything
These forged weapons with high Crt will be really useful for late game once you reach the end of Thabes dungeon.
Believe me, even if you have the weapons maxed out, it wont matter unless your troops have the stats for it. Most terrors have more than 25 defense and 30 attack on the later floors, specially when there are fire dragons.
Pssh, my Delthea and Celica can double Fire Dragons with Ragnarok, they die in one round. My Atlas had 33 base attack and my Tobin a 70% crit rate, both of them with maxed Killer Bows.
They weren't that scary
StickFigure I know, I'm just saying how dangerous they can be even if you have op troops, I just had Tobin with a brave bow, Kliff with a mage ring, and Delthea with a ladyblade. They crit so much it's not even funny and Kliff reached his max speed so every attack of his would double no matter what. Oh, and I had a Yasha Lukas with Max defense, attack, and skill with a brave sword maxed. Second run through of the dungeon was easy.
u should DEFFINATELY make a vid on sol, luna, and astra! it would be cool!
I'll see what I can do!
I'll get white hairs before I manage to collect all of those
In Japan and China, sol(太陽), luna(月光) and astra(流星) they are called the LEGENDARY weapons (伝説の武器). And Mercurius, Gradivus, and Parthia are just called the three artifact weapons (三種の神器) of Archanea.
superwill123 I second this motion!!!
Yes PLEASE DO THIS, Im hunting them right now and I would REALLY appreciate the help
I'm a year late since I just started echoes recently, but i loved the Golden Sun mention! I remember soft resetting hundreds of times just to get Excalibur and the Darksol blade😫
One of the best weapons to forge into is the Zweihänder in my opinion. High damage, decent hit rate, crit bonus, as well as the Sunder, Penetrate, and Tigerstance skills. Tigerstance adds the unit's Skill to the damage dealt.
Give that crap to gray
Discovering what weapons can evolve into in the game was fun. I honestly enjoyed not knowing what I would get, especially when I decided to evolve the Golden Dagger. THAT was a great surprise!
Yeah, definitely one of the cooler new features they threw in!
I recommend trading over the Ladyblade to Alm's side. At full forge, it gives Delthea 20+ damage on top of stellar attack.
Or you can just give her Nuibaba's Mage Ring so she can get increased range to make up for her low movement while staying out of melee combat to mitigate her low defense and HP.
But I can’t stand her.
The Royal Sword is easily my favorite weapon in this game. It's found pretty early on, its skills are top-notch, it's lightweight and strong, and the pegasus cheese found alongside it lets one obtain exotic spice from the cheese man, giving one enough gold marks to immediately forge it to its strongest form.
Oh, and it just flatly never gets outclassed. Even Falchion needs some forging to stand up to it.
Double Lion is just too good, costs 10 hp less than Scendscale (which falchion has) and guarantees a double hit first, there's not many times where you would use scendscale unless for fun, so Royal Sword is more effective in the long run yeah.
echoes is the first fire emblem game I've ever played. I went through blind on purpose (happy I did I've made some huge mistakes lmao) but your channel is making my play through so fun, thanks! just subbed
YAY! I always wondered how to get Celica's ultimate move. Thanks again for the help!
(I also learned that it is possible to make a dracoshield if you missed out on getting one, I won't spoil when though...)
Favorite forges were sol, astra and luna, seriously did the herculean task of getting all 3 before the postgame, but other notable weapons i enjoyed were the radiant bow giving a magical weapon option for archers and a nice combat art against terrors, the rapier for anti-Calvary and anti-armor goodness, saunion for being a bow in the form of a throwing lance, and rhomphia for sure, also with alms ultimate skill as an art on the sword to kill duma it is surprisingly really good, and outpreforms the royal sword for me once forged
Rip Hauntcleare
Best Axe in all of Fire Emblem! Also my personal favorite.
Really liked this video.
Many people do not know about these information about forging and I personally did not know that you can upgrade some of them like the blessed ones into the legendary Regalia ones.
Would like to see the Sol - Luna - Astra video at some point in time.
Keep up the good work.
+Athanasios Demertzis Thanks for watching. Really glad you enjoyed it and stay tuned for more!
Here are some suggestions
Dread fighter Lukas (Make him into a knight first) Then when he becomes a mercenary, give him a brave sword. have fun watching lukas destroy anything that approaches him.
Killer bow atlas is O.P due to hunter's volley that he learns quite quickly.
Pegasus knight Silque is quite good too. I used 2 pegasus cheese on her and she doubles almost anything.
Those sound really really cool!
Oh I would have loved this a few weeks ago, but at the very least I'll have the knowledge for future run throughs. Thank you for this concise breakdown Mr.Crit~
Echoes
Forged Killer Bows, brave swords, and the 3 Regalia were very useful throughout my play through of whole game. I also forged the Falchion, Royal Sword, and Beloved Zofia to help their stats.
As far as rusted weapons, I forged a Dracoshield from a Fafnir in Thabes as well as I have recently required Sol. Missing Luna and Astra right now.
This is probably the best forging system in the series imo. It's simple and very easy to use.
Thanks as always for the helpful advice Lucky Crit! Also, I'm interested in a video on Sol, Astra, and Luna! It can probably help lots of people understand how to get them and possibly showing them off.
You can get exotic spice twice during Alm's route in chapter 3' and you can get one for Celica's side doing the dragon fillet quest (honestly you can find these in the inner sanctum without doing the quest).
Mila's gift 3 also gives you 5 gold marks.
You can't get the spice in the dlc dungeons, dev team is to clever for that XD
There's also a chest with 5 gold marks in Thabes B7 (I think it's B7)
yeah its b7, thats the farthest ive gone so far before getting eviscerated by masks
My 2 cents: Forging the Royal Sword for Alm will give Alm one of the best swords in the game. But there's a catch:
*Spoilers*
The game kinda forces you to use Falchion on Alm instead once you get to the Final Boss, and Falchion unforged is a lot weaker than Forged Royal Sword, besides having an effectiveness against Terrors. Forged Falchion is a lot more competitive with Forged Royal Sword, Falchion has Terror effectiveness, both have Alm's ultimate Art, Royal Sword I THINK has slightly better raw stats, though I might be wrong, and Royal Sword also has Double Lion. In fact, thinking about it now, Double Lion is probably so stronk that it makes Royal Sword > Falchion whenever you don't need Regicide. Just know that if you forge Royal Sword that Falchion will come along later.
at least you get Royal Sword pretty early and can enjoy it through the whole story before the end where you have to use Falchion. Anyways in my case the last chapter was opening the way for Alm, I had many Gold Knights, Bow Knights and Dread Fighters take the lead with their high mobility while the healers mantained the party alive. Alm basically just advanced slowly with the infantry until I teleported him to finish the encirclement of Duma and deal the final blow. So really, the only thing I did with the Falchion was kill Duma lol. Anyways, you can literally use the Royal Sword at the final boss if you like to lead with Alm, he's the convoy so when you reach Duma you can just change your sword to Falchion and deal the final blow.
You forgot to mention that Ilwoon can be obtained from a maxed out Shadow Sword.
RJTheHero So THATS how you get it... I was wondering how to get one ever since I saw it in the art book.
my exact thought when he talked about the shadow sword xD
I don't think you need to max it out, just upgrade it to 1 star
RJTheHero lIwoon on Saber broke the game for me.
What does Iiwoon do?
I would also like to throw out there that if you upgrade a Shadow Sword one time, you can forge it into an Ilwoon, which is one very powerful sword that can eviscerate armored units with a Death Blow skill
Kinda late but for me getting Parthia was the best investment I ever made, that thing carried me in Thabes since I was under leveled with most units. It’s so broken thanks to the skill, that skill alone saved me from the final boss of the dungeon. Thing is it was my first try doing the dungeon at that point I had one turnwheel left so I really did not want anyone to die in the final boss. Thanks to my Tobin and Parthia however I was able to cheese it, Parthia with the skill allowed me to attack the final boss outside it’s huge range and slowly but surely I was able to chip damage it to death. Parthia for the win!
Lucky Crit I love your videos they help me out so much! thx for the tips and tricks you've shown us through out these past videos you were and will always be a great help.
Echoes! Thanks for the tips with the gold marks, definitely using that a bit. I would like to learn more about the Astra, Luna, and Sol weapons, so if you make a video on that, it would be great. Thanks and keep up the good work! On a side note, will you be doing any videos on Fire Emblem Warriors now that we have more info on the game?
John Cuneo only way to get those is if any of ur rusted weaponry needs 1 gold mark to evolve or grinding dlc got 0.13 or 0.26 percent
damn i completed the game 4 times and i didn't even knew we could forge blessed weapons into legendary weapons
My best forges are my 9 brave weapons, my royal sword, the falchion, the regalia, and a ton of other weapons.
The way how I do it is sheer determination and willpower of getting silver marks
Thats how you get the legendary regalia weapons?! Geez, I feel like an idiot selling my Blessed weapons....
You can get an additional Blessed Bow in Thabes, but you can't get another Blessed Sword outside of using DLC
Oh I've been getting tons of em from the Inner Sanctum.XD
sadly I'm done with this game beaten got ALL the achievements medals I'm just playing other games until the next main one 2018.
Splatoo Blemier same here at least there's awesome games coming this year to enjoy!
WaterGoddess Azura yup!!!
So for the Gold Fiend one, do you need to hold onto 30 gold marks at any given time, or just collect 30 gold marks total, regardless of if you've used some or not?
Splatoo Blemier 1- do the necrodragon achievement carry over
2- how did you completed the game in 500 turns and do the dlc turns count?
3 - how did you get the 3 legendary weapons? did you use the dlc to get all 3 ?
I need to know m8 ;_;
You can make the Regalia by fully upgrading and evolving the three blessed weapons (Sword, Lance, and Bow). But good luck finding enough gold marks to do that for 2 ok weapons and 1 crappy one. (Oh, and you can find the lance one, but that's kind of a end game spoiler)
Shadow Sword can also be evolved into the Ilwoon :)
And it's maxed stats are beautiful 13 atk 25 crit and 2 weight
I made a Killer Bow, the Mercurius and an Ilwoon for Celica's group, and the Gradivus and Romphaia for Alm's group
Had to like and subscribe purely for the golden sun reference. The Lost Age is one of my favourite games of all time!
Id love to learn more about Astra, Luna, and Sol.
I'd also like to know what's up with the Three Regalia. Those things have been popping up a lot in the game lately.
Brave sword 3 stars on Alm broke my game 😂
Yeah, the Brave Sword is bonkers. If you have fast enough units with high skill, though, I find Zweihanders to be better only for the higher damage, slightly lower crit and insane skill (Tigerstance, ADDS SKILL TO DAMAGE).
alm in general breaks the game
Zeavan looped gray through dreadfighter and gave him the zweihander. I beat rudolf in one turn
Same. Just one shot people left and right with a casual damage boost to 70+
*Echoes!*
However--I do disagree on getting rid of all the Shadow Swords. With the "Villager" glitch Dread Masters have, you can cycle the character in level loops, and with enough luck, the Shadow Swords curse will almost never trigger, giving you a deadly powerful blade that sucks out the souls of defeated enemies. Very useful for creating potential one man army-type units if you take the time for it!
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I usually don't do that. It takes 3 gold marks to fully upgrade the beloved sophia which is a lot especially considering she usually uses magic.
I've been DYING for this guide. Nice!
Loved the Golden Sun reference. lol
Thank you for this video but above all else thank you for the Golden Sun reference!!!
OMG Thank you for making this video, I really wanted more info on this
You can't forget about the Zweihander. Basically the sword version of Rhomphaia. It unlocks a skill that adds the user's skill stat to their strength when attacking.
Just forge a steel sword 2-3 times, then evolve it for 1 gold mark
Yes indeed! It comes up briefly in the video but I didn't want to mention every single forge in the game in depth since that might be boring and repetitive, but in retrospect I probably should have elaborated upon a few more!
Lucky Crit I actually did not know I could get Sol, Luna, and Astra in the endgame dungeon. I've beaten Echoes 14 times already now, and I just got Luna in the Inner Sanctum DLC after just starting Act 2 today on my 15th playthrough. Not even 5 minutes later, I also got Parthia in the same DLC. Now if only I could get a Scorpio shard or 2, I'd have some Star Jacinths on Celica's route.
I completely for got about sol, luna and astra lmao. I'd love to see a video on those weapons,since I haven't come across them yet
It's about time someone makes this video.
i made one of the villagers into an class considerd not their convential one and giving them a weapon only obtainable trough forging made them do more then surprisingly well
Rapier helped me so much in chapter 4 on Alm's route.
Wow I just found you guys and I'm binging your echoes videos definitely subbed
Despite being a Regalia weapon, it seems to me Mercurius sucks. A lot. Sure, it has 12 MT, 90 Hit, 1 WT when maxed and gives Recovery, but compared to the Silver Sword maxed (same MT, 100 Hit, same WT), it has worse HIT, costs a TON of gold marks to make and max (9!!), and has no skills. Silver Sword only costs 400 silver to max (if you find one instead of making it) and has two immensely useful skills; one gives you a huge evasion bonus and crit bonus, and the other gives a lesser evasion bonus, same crit bonus and IGNORES HALF THE OPPONENT'S DEFENSE. Oh, but I guess you don't get Recovery.
So yeah, worse Regalia. Silver Sword best not-Regalia.
Zeavan depends on who you give it too, I gave it too Sonya and she makes crits all the time
But you get an achievement, so you gotta :P
I think it's good for Priestesses for the healing effect while also diversifying their effective damage, but I can definitely see your logic with the outrageous cost.
You make a good point. Priestesses don't really need weapon skills, since spells basically do the same, but with more predictable effect (i.e. range, more damage, more WT, more crit, etc.) However, its abysmal starting HIT of 80 (implying you don't bust your whole load to max it) makes it hard to recommend outside the healing factor and weapon damage utility, as a heavily farmed Delthea ended up with only a 70~ chance to hit on a speedier foe, and a 70 might as well be your chance to hit air.
A much better Priestess weapon would be Ladyblade. Ladyblade, out of the box, gives Priestesses 12 MT (and 85 Hit, +5 crit) due to the attack doubling for women, so equal to a maxed Mercurius. However, it's Recovery is arguable a lot more important for Priestesses, cause magic = life. I still adamantly stand by my original point, mostly to make up having made the silly thing in the first place and being out 7 gold, lol
Oh yeah I love the ladyblade. Gave that to Mae and the Mercurius to Delthea. She hits reasonably well I think, but I DID fully upgrade it.
wow great video. no wonder i was having trouble with this game. i never bothered to upgrade any of them. i guess i should have. now i want to replay echoes again.
I'm not a particular fan of how weapon skills are locked to that weapon.
+MrRaui Yeah, it's sort of a weird way to have implemented things.
its designed to prevent a player from grinding to give all of their units really good weapon skills and then be able to use a different item
No weapon triangle or breakable weapons in this game kinda sucks. I know there’s no playable axe fighters, but it’s kind of weird that only Alm and female mages ever learn to use a new weapon type. Also single slot inventory...what.
This game is faithful to a fault.
... the part about the skills was kind of redundant. Honestly I thought it was really stupid that skills were locked to weapons but since they are there's little point in worrying about them until later game unless you want/need them.
I once had a Rusted Bow evolve into Luna. Worth those 5 Gold Marks.
I made Conrad a dread fighter and he along with Sonya and celica were the mvps on her journey, give him and ilwoon and wait for him to get max strength
Please make the episode on Sol, Luna, and Astra. A lot of people aren't clear enough on the subject.
You forgot to mention that forging a shadow sword allows you upgrade it into the ilwoon. the ilwoon teaches wrath strike, lounge, and death blow. Unforged it has a 70% hit rate, a might of 10, a 15% crit, and a weight of 4. fully forged ilwoon has 13 might, 25% crit, 70% hit, 2 weight, and costs 150 silver marks and 1 gold mark.
Yeah there were definitely a few weapons that in retrospect really should have been in there, but while making the video I sort of thought to just do a handful of top picks so it didn't get boring. But yeah, looking back I do regret not having more great forge options in there.
I love it when they bring back the forge ost from Fates...
Another wonderful change following the disaster that was forging in Fates, constantly having to buy multiples of the same damn weapon, forging each several dozen times, for small bonuses each time, when in this game you just dump a certain amount to reap certain rewards. The evolution mechanic adds a ton of depth and, I should note, the Brave Sword can enter a loop where you can forge it back and forth between a Shadow Sword and Brave Sword. PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON SOL, LUNA AND ASTRA WEAPONS!!
You forgot about forging the Shadow sword into the Ilwoon, it's a sword with very high might and Crit, it helped me beat the secret boss without dlc.
But not that great hit and quite some weight
+Nic Harris I didn't mention every unique forge as I figured it would get too long winded, but in retrospect yes the Ilwoon would have been worth mentioning!
Dude Astra on my Bread Fighter Tobin broke the game, 90% crit chance, 49 total atk with astra, 40 def, and 37 effective spd
This will come in handy. Thanks Lucky Crit
Could you make a guide on hunting for Astra, Luna, and Sol?
I see that you had Valbar hooked up with a Leather Shield. I know it's not the best shield, but tbh, my Valbar was holding it for most of Celica's Route. Tbh, the Swap ability, plu Valbar decent defense growth, made him into a really good tank for me.
I was just doing it for him to learn Swap and max it, but it's also hilarious that it's so small on him
Is it even worth it farming for the astra, sol, and luna? Because as it is now, there is no wifi arena?
I guess I'm looking forward to that potential future video on them
PsychicClaw perfectionist thing, if yo get all 3 weapons you get an achievement
Potential super hard DLC
Yes, please do an episode on Astra and friends :D
i got an Exotic Spice (only once) in Thabe's Labyrinth and was giddy about it. most interesting enough, a "naturally spawned" Mongoll dropped a rusted lance when i was battling Duma lmao. now im farming Fiends and Deathgoyles in Thabe's and its a pain in the ass. i might get the Dragon Slayer award before ill even get those weapons....
Probably
How to get the blessed sword ?
good luck getting those valentian regalia weapons considering their drop rate
+MultiGamer212 Apparently there are some not quite as bad farming spots. I'll look into it
On the Regalia:
Gradivus is fantastic, and you can forge one as early as act 3 on Alm's route
Mercurius is a pretty good weapon, but is outclassed by some other swords
Parthia is absolute trash. A 3-star killer bow does the same damage as a fully forged Parthia, but is more accurate, costs less, weighs less and has a critical chance. Only make Parthia if you want the Archanean Regalia achievement.
+Zane Corbiere Yeah I don't think anything is going to surpass hunter's volley!
A bit late, but I feel like the Beloved Zofia should’ve had Plentitude and Earth's Boon as well, since the Golden Dagger is the only weapon that actually has them.
I have Gardivus from a dungeon grab. Now I know how to get the other two.
the shadow sword can also be upgraded into the ilwoon if you improve it first
Yes indeed! That's one that in retrospect I should have included. I didn't want to throw EVERY forge in the game into this video, but looking back Ilwoon should have been in there for sure. Thanks for watching!
well shadow sword can be crazy on dreadfighters tho. they dont care about the curse. although. the high crit on the brave swords is still a sweet treat on them
+Mighty_Rathalos Very fair! But in general they are pretty risky items
true. but especially against bulky enemies the sheer insane strengh of the shadow sword helped me to destroy some enemies with dread fighters on a fast promotion run. especially if they did crit anyway :) Just thought many people didnt know that, I read it up when I was wondering why despite the low luck, Jesse never backfired with it.
you forgot to add that Shadow swords can also be upgraded into Ilwoon, just as a side note
+ThePokeShapeshifter I didn't mention everything since I thought it would get repetitive and boring, but yeah I'm retrospect I should have mentioned the Ilwoon
it is one of the better weapons, alongside the Zweihander that upgrades from the steel sword XD gave that sword to Delthea when i got her to a priestess, and then nothing could come close to her without getting miced
pls talk about sol luna and astra i would like an episode about those weapons
Why didn't you talk about Ilwoon? That's probably the best sword in the game
+Bobby Blob I didn't want to discuss every late game weapon in Echoes as I think it would have gotten boring, but yes, in retrospect the Ilwoon really deserved a spot. Sorry about that!
you never made a video about the legendary weapons
Zweihander on Dread Fighter Kliff is overpowered, I can use Tigerstance for 97 ATK, not to mention a 50% crit rate for every attack.
I like turning shadow swords to Ilwoon
can you make a video on the overclass
like which one is better and what they do
What they do is allow you to class change a character once they reach level 20 in the final class of a line. But considering how hard it is to get EXP after hitting level 10, there's not a massive chance you'll use them.
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you forgot that shadow swords can be changed into the illwoon or what ever way you spell the name.
Shit! Never expected there would be so many weapons! I thought beloved zofia (the only "rare" weapon i crafted ) was like the rarest ultra late game super exclusive weapon, little did i know...
Haha hope you enjoyed the video!
so far im at close to the end of ch 4, just missing like 3-2 more battle with alm, and damn the curse sword kill me so many time and im on classic, wasn't the best idea but i like the heal after kill effect
He talked about some special weapons that he would do a separate video on. Is he going to do it?
Hi there, even though most of the hype of Fire Emblem Echoes has died down and the videos most likely won't do too well, I still intend to make these videos I promised people. Hilariously enough I still need to beat Echoes myself to snag some more footage for the videos I promised (in making all this content I actually never totally beat the game) so that will come first, but if you stay tuned it'll show up eventually. Sorry for the wait.
I got a question. You said that the arts can only be used with the equipped weapon so what is the point of learning the skills from the golden dagger?
Fair point. I guess it depends upon if you plan on forging it or not. Some people think it isn't worth it. But the skills are unique as far as I can remember. But you're correct, I suppose there isn't much of a point! I just wanted to make it clear that some items you only get one of and will miss out on the ability of learning previous skills from it.
Lucky Crit I think you can get the same skills from Milas Bow.
You forgot the radiant bow!
Omg that Odin reference killed me XD
Glad you liked it!
Why Echoes has the devil axe?
Where do we find the weapons Sol, Astra, and Luna? Do we forge them, find them, or are they DLC weapons?
You can get them from enemy drops, repairing rusted weapons found in the lower floors of Thabes or on DLC.
Regardless of the method, they are always extremely rare
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That beginning though😂👌
+MvdKipz Haha glad you liked it. Looking back I wish I had done a zoom in on his tiny shield
Great video! Very helpful! :)
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+dino nut Thanks for watching!
Echoes favorite weapon is the Zweihander
But wait, in the 9th floor there's 3 fire Dragons in that Sacred Fountain Room. So we have to beat that group three times for the chance of 6 gold marks?
So is there any point to learning skills on weapons you're going to forge into new ones? I'm aware that skills carry over if they're available on multiple weapons, but in those cases they can just be learned on the better weapon. Is it just to have all the skills on the unit's stat screen?
TL;DR Why learn Wrath Strike if you plan on getting rid of your Iron Sword?
Yeah, it's a good question. I mentioned that later in the game this would definitely be relevant, for example a late-game recruit learning an iron sword is probably a waste of time. Early game though they'll come in handy as you play.
Lucky Crit But as for choosing between "upgrade now" and "learn its skills and then upgrade", there's no point in the second option, because once you upgrade a weapon, its old skills are unusable regardless of if you learned them, right?