So, I've been following and finding a lot of Derren Brown lately, and I knew he was mindblowing at memory tricks and persuasion and all the like. However I had no idea he was so fantastic at card tricks like this, this version of oil and water blows away even the master rene levands version. Simply...well...mindblowing.
I am a magician and I can assure you the spectators were completely amazed. They had had really no idea what was happening. If you were there it would be the same for you. And it's easy to comment like that when you are watching a video which you can view over and over again.
I'm always amazed that: 1. Viewers resort to "that's just a trick" 2. Viewers would rather learn a secret to something they'll never master over the thrill of amazement, and 3. That the secrects proposed are always more complex and silly than the actual solution
I can. I've never really been too interested in this trick until I saw his version. I love the end part. So I learnt it. Took just a bit to figure that part out, but once you do, the rest is standard.
At 2:26 you can see a card in Derren's right hand that he has pulled out of his sleeve. The card is visible right after his hand comes down from "moistening his finger."
Come on, I can't be the only one that saw what he did. He didn't mix or unmix them, they were always the same cards, he simply moved them so fast(and turned them face down) so they were convinced by his words. It may not be amazing magic, but it's excellent showmanship, which is what he is, not a magician.
it is called oil and water because when you mix oil and water they separate the oil floats at the top so the blacks represent oil and the reds represent water
I mean, yes, that was awesome. the ending is especially different. I was saying "um, no" to the guy who said that at 1 min, 32 sec, he throws a card over his shoulder.
The cards never actually unmix themselves. Notice how he only shows one card at a time as he reveals them and then puts them face down. He is using sleight of hand to show the same card 4 times to make them believe that all the red cards are there and puts the others down on the table face down. The opposite applies when he reveals the other hand. It's a very good and very convincing trick though and extremely well performed by Derren.
I haven't watch the video in a while but what he does though is simply alternate bottom dealing when he reveals the cards, to make it appear that there are four reds, when really there are only two. He hides the black cards by flipping over reds from the bottom and then putting down black cards. Again, I'm not saying it's easy to perform, as it does require some slights, but it's not a "complicated" trick to understand. If you just watch the cards closely it's pretty easy to follow.
@ ISteppedOnATurd - if you pause it at 1:33 you see a 7 of diamonds, at 1:34 you see a 6 of hearts, and at 1:35 you see a 9 of hearts. obviously you didn't watch the trick as closely as you thought.
We never get to really see the "all red" hand and the "all black" hand. In fact, pause on 1:34 and you will see a BLACK card in the red deck - which is never actually shown because he puts the cards face down. Now why would he do that? One of Derren's earlier videos so we can forgive him for that :) Still reckon he is brilliant!
Let's just put some rumours to rest.... In this trick there are no camera tricks, no cards hidden up sleeves, no short cards and it is done with an ordinary standard deck. Derren also gives credit to Sadowitz for this trick, and does state this is just his own version, but dislikes performing this trick. I know how this trick is done, but I'm not going to blab it to the whole world on You Tube, however with a little imagination you can find out the full method for this effect.
I'm stumped. Where can i find the book or publication? Right now i'm reading 'Corinda's 13 Steps to Mentalism' but i would love some direction in tracking this one down.
I doubt this is it but wouldnt the easiest way to do this trick least partially, two seperate sets of each colour, so he never makes them intertwine or untwine, he just switched between a set that is anda set that isnt? still no idea how hed do it tho :)
@countsmyth 0:34 is first deception. they are not aligned properly. one black and one red has been put over eachother sort of. when he gathers them together they switch places.. he does plenty of these "off-beat" sleights. Saying something with a loud and clear voice, leaning forward and spreading the cards out, then as he reclines and speaks in a softer tone they look him in the eyes and miss the sleights.
ok.its a misunderstanding then...you meant simple to UNDERSTAND. but which card magic effect isn't really easy to UNDERSTAND if you know how it s done. i ve never really came across any magic effect that is really complicated and hard to understand. i m not saying hard to figure our,but hard to understand well anyway,its all good. its a good ,simple trick (like most good tricks) but not that easy to perform convincingly
Actually you're both wrong. The black cards are printed using oil-based ink while the reds are printed using water-based ink. Thats what i tell my spectators anyway...
actually thats only half correct. density only affects which substance will be on the top and which will be on the bottom. oil and water separate because oil is a nonpolar substance and water is a polar substance. without an emulsifying agent (such as soap) oil is immiscible in water. good try though.
Not really a TV-trick. Funny to see Derren Brown doing a trick as simple as that :) I mean, it's Derren Brown, shouldn't he do something that makes you scratch your head for weeks until you finally give up?
methord looks to be a false count he appears to show a card then count the bottom one down and re show the cards giving the impression they are all the same colour
The only reason this trick seems so amazing is because of the bad video quality makes it hard to see the cards. If anyone was actually really there, they could tell right away what he was doing. The people he's performing too are either complete idiots who aren't paying attention at all or actors; that's all there is to it.
Why? Because I think that you should notice when someone shows you the same card four times insisting that it's four different cards? Don't get me wrong, I like Derren Brown, but this is a ridiculously simple trick and not hard to figure out at all. I take back the actors thing, they're probably not actors, just really unobservant people. I'm sure anyone who was really watching closely would have seen right away what he was doing.
Or, maybe I do know how the trick is done and I was simply exaggerating. You're right though, you clever dog you, he doesn't show them the same card four times, but he doesn't show them three either. He has two reds and two blacks and simply alternates dealing off the bottom and on top to make his TWO red cards look like four. And look at their faces! They're barely even paying attention anyway! I'm not saying the trick is poorly performed, merely that it's way too simple and easy to figure out.
yea right...you make a fool of yourself buddy, bottom dealing is something that even the best cardmens in the world constantly improve. its NOT a simple sleight.
There were no cuts, no passes and no special moves at all.
This is fucking amazing.
Wekk done!
i love this version of the trick i perform it all the time
the way he shows the cards is the trick
My favorite and boldest Oil & Water.
So, I've been following and finding a lot of Derren Brown lately, and I knew he was mindblowing at memory tricks and persuasion and all the like. However I had no idea he was so fantastic at card tricks like this, this version of oil and water blows away even the master rene levands version. Simply...well...mindblowing.
Yeah I fully agree! I've not practised for a while but I might try and master it by xmas to amaze some of the younger folks on xmas day.
I am a magician and I can assure you the spectators were completely amazed. They had had really no idea what was happening. If you were there it would be the same for you.
And it's easy to comment like that when you are watching a video which you can view over and over again.
I'm always amazed that:
1. Viewers resort to "that's just a trick"
2. Viewers would rather learn a secret to something they'll never master over the thrill of amazement, and
3. That the secrects proposed are always more complex and silly than the actual solution
He still is a magician
I can. I've never really been too interested in this trick until I saw his version. I love the end part. So I learnt it. Took just a bit to figure that part out, but once you do, the rest is standard.
It's a beautiful classic. Nice subtlety :D
At 2:26 you can see a card in Derren's right hand that he has pulled out of his sleeve. The card is visible right after his hand comes down from "moistening his finger."
Come on, I can't be the only one that saw what he did. He didn't mix or unmix them, they were always the same cards, he simply moved them so fast(and turned them face down) so they were convinced by his words. It may not be amazing magic, but it's excellent showmanship, which is what he is, not a magician.
Cool... Read about this in magic magazine this month and it mentioned Derren.
it is called oil and water because when you mix oil and water they separate the oil floats at the top so the blacks represent oil and the reds represent water
I mean, yes, that was awesome. the ending is especially different. I was saying "um, no" to the guy who said that at 1 min, 32 sec, he throws a card over his shoulder.
I can. It's actually quite brilliant, how the ending is done. The rest is standard.
The cards never actually unmix themselves. Notice how he only shows one card at a time as he reveals them and then puts them face down. He is using sleight of hand to show the same card 4 times to make them believe that all the red cards are there and puts the others down on the table face down. The opposite applies when he reveals the other hand. It's a very good and very convincing trick though and extremely well performed by Derren.
slight of hand. has cards in his hand at all times
For sure, of course :) But have you ever tried to learn a comparable trick to such a level of great performance? Takes a damn while.
I haven't watch the video in a while but what he does though is simply alternate bottom dealing when he reveals the cards, to make it appear that there are four reds, when really there are only two. He hides the black cards by flipping over reds from the bottom and then putting down black cards. Again, I'm not saying it's easy to perform, as it does require some slights, but it's not a "complicated" trick to understand. If you just watch the cards closely it's pretty easy to follow.
@ ISteppedOnATurd - if you pause it at 1:33 you see a 7 of diamonds, at 1:34 you see a 6 of hearts, and at 1:35 you see a 9 of hearts. obviously you didn't watch the trick as closely as you thought.
it's not "supposedly".
He IS.
Its even on his website, if you care to look.
pure slieght of hand. any magician knows how it done...
He tricks them into seeing what he wants them to see.
The cards are always intertwined...he just makes the blacks appear black through suggestion.
You said when he was a magician. Past tense. My point is he still is one.
there is no logical explanation for that trick. Derren is, in fact, a wizard...
ouch! that was awesome
@ 1:33 he deals from the back of the red stack as the red card on top (9 of diamonds I think) stays the same after every card is placed face down.
I hope Derren never visits Texas. He'd be burned at the stake.
We never get to really see the "all red" hand and the "all black" hand. In fact, pause on 1:34 and you will see a BLACK card in the red deck - which is never actually shown because he puts the cards face down. Now why would he do that? One of Derren's earlier videos so we can forgive him for that :) Still reckon he is brilliant!
nice trick, no idea how he does it...magic!
OMG When he put the cards under his hand they were face up
When he moved his hand a little you can see that they have been fliped over.!!
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looks to me like a dealing technique. the way he handles it.
at 2:27 he is dealing from the back of the cards in his hand.
Its not magic, he's just a genius
Brown says in the clip it takes about three years to learn. I believe him. :D
Let's just put some rumours to rest....
In this trick there are no camera tricks, no cards hidden up sleeves, no short cards and it is done with an ordinary standard deck. Derren also gives credit to Sadowitz for this trick, and does state this is just his own version, but dislikes performing this trick.
I know how this trick is done, but I'm not going to blab it to the whole world on You Tube, however with a little imagination you can find out the full method for this effect.
he said that alot of magicians love this trick but he it leaves him rather cold since its more about the cards than the magician
Well.. technically all magic is excellent showmanship..
David Copperfield didn't actually cut himself in half..
oh i know he has a special deck of cards that are like staticish so they stick together unless u like move the card off
Sadowitz? Where can i find his work? A particular book? He displays it as 'mentalism' but being a magician that could be sleighted all the way.
I'm so used to this being done with red and blue backed cards. all the cards had red backs... I was like wtf? then I clued in... feel so stupid...
it was when he were a magician,
HE STOLE BERNARD'S WATCH!!!!
I'm stumped. Where can i find the book or publication? Right now i'm reading 'Corinda's 13 Steps to Mentalism' but i would love some direction in tracking this one down.
Whats the dvd called? and does he explain some of his hypnosis techniques? thx
Yes, but to be fair, only the ending is Jerry's and at least Derren gives due credit to Sadowitz, unlike Maze.
Rene Lavand, from Argentina :P.
@Matzes 3 words: By Forces Unseen
I think it's more likely that he switches the cards when he palms them, after taking them out from under the guy's hands!
thanks a lot, will do.
Ima buy both lol
Hi everyone,
I've been doing cardtricks for a while now, yet I don't know this trick. Can anyone explain this one to me?
Sincerely,
Thomas
Win.
The way I see it you have to have a bit of luck in the ending trick to have hem perfectly entwined...
I doubt this is it but wouldnt the easiest way to do this trick least partially, two seperate sets of each colour, so he never makes them intertwine or untwine, he just switched between a set that is anda set that isnt? still no idea how hed do it tho :)
The guy on the right looks like Nial form Hollyoaks :P
@countsmyth 0:34 is first deception. they are not aligned properly. one black and one red has been put over eachother sort of. when he gathers them together they switch places.. he does plenty of these "off-beat" sleights. Saying something with a loud and clear voice, leaning forward and spreading the cards out, then as he reclines and speaks in a softer tone they look him in the eyes and miss the sleights.
at 0:55 his hands arnt touching anything at all. hes lifting them off the table a good 15cm from the cards.
wow...
....I don't think the cards move at all, the camera moves to follow the action.
ok.its a misunderstanding then...you meant simple to UNDERSTAND.
but which card magic effect isn't really easy to UNDERSTAND if you know how it s done. i ve never really came across any magic effect that is really complicated and hard to understand. i m not saying hard to figure our,but hard to understand
well anyway,its all good.
its a good ,simple trick (like most good tricks) but not that easy to perform convincingly
mmhhmhm!! uh, luks whos talkin everybody
where did you learn it?
Surely this is sleight of hand and misdirection and very little else?
Actually you're both wrong.
The black cards are printed using oil-based ink while the reds are printed using water-based ink.
Thats what i tell my spectators anyway...
actually thats only half correct. density only affects which substance will be on the top and which will be on the bottom.
oil and water separate because oil is a nonpolar substance and water is a polar substance. without an emulsifying agent (such as soap) oil is immiscible in water.
good try though.
not a card magician, psychological illusionist is what he is now
HOW the hell does he do that ???
That's just a subdivision of magic. And When did I say that he was a card magician?
who's version is this?
Telling me pleease.
can you explain me the trick then^^
derren or the bloke?
Yeah, but he's just showing how he started out.
Not really a TV-trick.
Funny to see Derren Brown doing a trick as simple as that :) I mean, it's Derren Brown, shouldn't he do something that makes you scratch your head for weeks until you finally give up?
@UTHAFROM really? where!!!!!!!!!
Bottom deal anyone ?!?!?! you are concentrating on the colour not the number !!
methord looks to be a false count he appears to show a card then count the bottom one down and re show the cards giving the impression they are all the same colour
If you don't care why are you arguing with me?
The only reason this trick seems so amazing is because of the bad video quality makes it hard to see the cards. If anyone was actually really there, they could tell right away what he was doing. The people he's performing too are either complete idiots who aren't paying attention at all or actors; that's all there is to it.
Why? Because I think that you should notice when someone shows you the same card four times insisting that it's four different cards? Don't get me wrong, I like Derren Brown, but this is a ridiculously simple trick and not hard to figure out at all. I take back the actors thing, they're probably not actors, just really unobservant people. I'm sure anyone who was really watching closely would have seen right away what he was doing.
It's a magic video and I know how people feel becuae I work with magic for them... duh???
Or, maybe I do know how the trick is done and I was simply exaggerating. You're right though, you clever dog you, he doesn't show them the same card four times, but he doesn't show them three either. He has two reds and two blacks and simply alternates dealing off the bottom and on top to make his TWO red cards look like four. And look at their faces! They're barely even paying attention anyway! I'm not saying the trick is poorly performed, merely that it's way too simple and easy to figure out.
whats your point? if you have one
how the fack did he do that??
Lol lighten up, he was just kidding around.
it's burger
How da fuck is this done?
he got more hair...
yea right...you make a fool of yourself buddy, bottom dealing is something that even the best cardmens in the world constantly improve. its NOT a simple sleight.
So someone else you dislike, Jerry, for being more talented, more popular and more successful than you?
This is actually off his teaching dvd i believe. Thats why the trick is so simple and the quality of the film is so mediocre.
If you think bottom dealing is a complicated trick then obviously you don't know anything about card magic.
Brown also tells lies to create an atmosphere
derren needs to do more slight of hand.
ZA WARUDO
No. They don't.
I tought i was a strip poker