Mountain Bike Rack and Panniers | Installation
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- čas přidán 4. 02. 2021
- Eddie installs Ortlieb Gravel Pack Panniers and an Old Man Mountain Sherpa Rack on his Trek Farley bikepacking rig.
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I have these bags mounted to the ortleib quick release rack on my gravel bike. They are superb.
Man, these bags are great. Used them on a kayak trip too. -Eddie
You're gonna love that rack. Super solid and heavy duty. I've hade one for several years. Frigging love it.
That's fantastic to hear! Thanks. - Eddie
Panniers can bounce around when not properly secured. The cool thing about the gravel pack is that the two bottom clips make it fit pretty securely. I attached a second clip to my old Ortliebs and it helped stability.
Yep, you're right. I'm grateful for the two bottom clips. Makes for a much more stable bag. -Eddie
Nice video, Thanks for sharing. Looking at decking out my commuter MTB with something similar.
Have fun! -Eddie
I've only used large rear panniers for bikepacking, never understood why the trend away from them happened. To me it's a clear case of fixing what's not broken and creating problems where there were none. 25L is about the size of one of my panniers. If I'm backpacking with my dog, away from town for days, I want at least 65L of space, same if we're bikepacking.
Wow - those are large panniers you have there! The backpack I've used for 20 years is 58L. I typically backpacked 3-5 days, which is what I'd like to do bikepacking. IMHO, the tail bag is only appropriate if you plan to wear a pack too. Or - if you are going to spend a lot of time near civilization for frequent re-supply. - Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking yup they're huge, indestructible, and they each resemble a small backpack. MEC brand, I got them used for $40 and I've never seen anything quite like them on the market today. Of course I'm riding slow, and would probably die if I tried to jump anything, lol.
Cheers,
Liam
Cool . Thanks
You bet! -Eddie
I got some Arkel Dolphin 48 panniers with the same bike and rack. I need space for winter adventures and for my packraft in the sunny season.
How did the mount to the bottom braze on hold up? There is good heel clearance with this rack.
I didn't have any problem with the braze-ons during my recent trip. This spring - I'm gonna put them to the test on one of the gnarliest downhills in Pisgah. Stay tuned! - Eddie
Nice review, did the hook inserts for 10mm came with the Panniers or you bought that set separately( and from where)?
They came with the panniers. Very nice set! -Eddie
Hi Eddie. Thank you for the review and installation demo. I’m looking to cut out my Farley with a rear rack and was curious to know if the tyre clearance issue that you noticed was a problem. Also you chose to use the raisins to brace the rack rather than The supplied hardware, did you find this stable and easy to get on with?
The tire clearance issue was no problem at all during the 3-4 trips I've taken since installation. I was very pleased with using the braze-on mountain points. I had no issues at all. -Eddie
Hi, your video couldn't come at a better time. I just installed a Tubus Vega Evo rack on my Surly Bridge Club and i am deciding which bags I want to install. The top 2 bags are currently the Ortlieb Gravel Pack and the Surly Petite Porter House bag. I am really interested in your findings about these Ortliebs. Especially if they make noise in various conditions. Also, a bit about on how much you can actually fit in these bags. Thank you for making all of your video's.
That rack is a pretty rack! I've returned from our latest trip where I used the panniers - and I think I need one more before I can share an opinion on noise (the trail we rode was flat and not very bumpy). In the right pannier - I carried my tent, battery brick, and two extra layers. In the left pannier, I carried tool bag, tube, cook kit, clothes, food, water filter, first aid kit, hygiene kit... I think that's it. - Eddie
The Surly Petite Porter house front pannier bag is not water proof although Surly give you some bright yellow internal bags which I guess are to prevent water getting to your dry gear in a down pour. It's best suited to a front pannier rack such as their Porteur Rack 24 or the Specialised Pizza rack. It's a bit over priced for what it is. In contrast all Ortlieb bags are waterproof so you do not have to worry about your gear getting damp or wet. I've never ever had an Ortlieb bag that has leaked and use my Ortlieb panniers most days. I have the full fat ones, the sport packers and the gravel ones and they are all good. None have ever leaked. Getting them on and off is super easy. Mine don't rattle either.
I think a rear rack and two small (front) panniers mounted on it is the way to go. I have never bought into the craze of a huge rear single saddle bag stuffed full of stuff mounted high up on your bike making for a high CoG, trying to swing from side to side affecting handling and adding even more stress to the the seat post.
Btw what torque do you put on your thru axle tightening it up as I see this rack uses the end of the OMM's own thru axle to mount on? It is important to get them tight as you don't want any slippage or movement between the drop outs.
I agree with you very much on the high CoG. My bike handles much different now. On torque, OMM recommends threading the 5mm key through the axle ends and using them to tighten. I think they believe the 5NM will be achieved before you can bend the key. I'd like to be able to torque it with a torque wrench though to be sure - so not terribly excited about that design. - Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking You might want to watch this video on thru axles.
czcams.com/video/KMdsSuXGniU/video.html
Cool bike
Thanks! -Eddie
Apart from the extra weight being carried (which would be on the bike irrespective of whether it is placed on the bike directly or eg on your back on a rucksack, the wheel rubber contacting the ground will be the same) possibly affecting your steering, I cannot see why having lower fork panniers or packs is going to impact on your ride?
Low center of gravity enhances stability in 2-wheel vehicles in particular. I do notice the difference. - Eddie
Recently started following you. I am planning my first bike packing trip for next spring. I was excited to see in this video you have a Farley,. That is what I have and plan on making adventures with. Very interested in advice on rigging out my fatbike. Would love to see what you currently are using and suggestions
I was looking at ortlib all the way.. would love to hear your thoughts and recommendations...
Thank you in advance...
I'm excited for you! Yes, the Ortleib bags are far and away the best decision I made regarding bikepacking. I will always be on a hard tail with rack and panniers. That + a frame bag is the way to go. The right pannier is tent, ground cloth, sleeping pad. The left pannier is cook kit, first aid, extra clothes. I put my sleeping bag up top in the middle (lightest/highest).
I carry most of my water down low in my frame bag now 2 or 3 liter Hydropak. Top of my frame bag, on top of the water, is my food.
I carry a bottle on my handlebar (with a few side pouches for snacks + stuff.
I have a top tube bag for quick-access items (snacks, headlamp, phone, etc.).
I carry a tool bag on the top tube near the seat tube (I think I want to get this lower in the future, though.
I only wear a backpack now for camera gear (drone, accessories).
Have fun! -Eddie
Hi, How have your found the gravel panniers? Any issues, any annoying noise etc. interested in your overall thoughts. Considering purchasing.
I love them. I need to do a follow-up video comparing seat bag to panniers. I'm not going back from rack and panniers. The rack is A+ and well made. The panniers are sturdy, waterproof, and easy to get on/off the frame. I would recommend them both unreservedly. -Eddie
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Delighted to hear it all worked out and positive words. Order on its way 👍
It does the job.
Yep! -Eddie
0:27 Having had something I was carrying swing into the front wheel and subsequently having the ground severely impact my face it's not something you're likely to see me do either..
I'll bet you were off the bike and on the ground before you knew what happened! Thanks for sharing. -Eddie
Why not use the rear stay mounts and a seat post clamp? Your gains 2 inches of clearance at the tire. Is that a 26 inch wheel?
I can't use a seat post clamp because I have a dropper post. That's a 27.5 x 4.5 and it's a monster! - Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking I guess they don’t recommend it for my Farley 7 with the 27.5 gnarwhals. Anyway I went with a salsa alternator. I may try the Topeak for my partner’s Farley when it arrives.
I used a clamp on the bottom part of the dropper. Salsa sells one. It’s not a seat post clamp.
Hmm, seems like a hassle to fix a flat tire.
@@SimplyMountainBikingis your bike frame carbon? Wonder if you used the pucks would be safe on the stays?
Hi Eddie, what brand are these nice looking pedals?
Hi! Those are Crank Brothers Stamp pedals in large. I love these for my size 13 feet! -Eddie
Why are all the pannier rack on the market only about 6 inches long? My fat tire bike is gigantic and I can't put a tiny rack for a tiny penus. I need a gigantic rack that goes with the gigantic bike. But there's none out there.
I don't know - but I'm not looking to carry tons of gear so the size works for me well. -Eddie
What about luggage racks.. because I have one on the back of my bike.. I also have a trailer that you put children in.. I plan on putting a gear in that.. I'm also looking at a another luggage rack that I could put in the front of the bike so that I can strap even more equipment to it.. is that a good idea..
Hey, do what you want for the gear you want to bring. It's what works for you. 🙂 -Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking if I can find another luggage rack to put in the front of the bike.. you can call me paranoid but I really don't like what is going on.. you can't do anything without hearing the crap on the news TV cell phone radio.. of all hell breaking loose.. it's just a matter of time.. I'm waiting for the big main event to go down.. with me I'm going to be alone when it happens.. I always have known that I'm going to be alone.. stuck stranded in Arkansas right now.. single white female I'm already 55.. lots of thoughts go through my mind being a Target.. having the crap kicked out of me being raped.. that's just how the society is anymore