6 Things I DO NOT LIKE About My Tenere 700
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See what you should have done was got an mt07 then painstakingly turned it into an adventure kinda bike 😁
There really aren't as many crazy guys as you man!🤣
I'm fairly certain your "adventure kinda bike" has already seen waaay more adventure than my Tenere ever will! ha-ha. It's an awesome build I've really enjoyed watching.
Good one Jake...
Seriously,I find the bike a bit too tall for me.I'm not as tall as I used to be (old).:-(.Probably do the Touratech drop kit (1.5").F&R.
BTW Jake,I've been watching your videos for years.Good stuff!
1. Hard to get on with a broken foot.
2. Hard to get off of with a broken foot.
3. Hard to stop with a broken foot.
4. Hard to push with a broken foot.
5. Hard to stand on pegs with a broken foot.
6. Hard to balance with a broken foot.
I concur haha.
Hard to edit videos with a broken foot.
Hard to come up with something to talk about with a broken foot.
Hard to justify dirt riding when i love the street with a broken foot.
@@djsi38t If you like the Tenere and like riding on the street, you should check out AleksanderTheGreat on ADVRider. He turned his Tenere into a supermoto and it looks cool as all hell
You should try with a lifted KLR.
I love the persistent ‘woo’s’ through the video in which you’re talking about the things you don’t like about the bike. Obviously good fun.
Haha yeah I love it!
"Downfalls"? Adventure bike, or Dual Sport bike..? Be careful where your expectations lie here. We can criticize all sorts of stuff at the 'price point', but many of the things you're pointing out are preferred adjustments for specific riding needs with the expectation of having issues 'if this' and 'for that'... The Tenere 700 is an 'Adventure' bike (whatever interpretation is put on that term), it is not a WR700 (with the engineered detail that would got into such). Now that's a bike many of us would be very interested in indeed, but as a recreational, or comp bike would surely have to retail at a significantly higher price. The key thing is, does the Tenere 700 at core provide a basic bike to offer the purchaser great possibility with function and dependability, for the outlay? So far - too right! BUT you ARE going to have to invest and adapt from that price point. Downfalls? Well, manufacturing compromises to fit a price point, maybe?
Absolutely 100% Wright to the point I would also add that it’s a bit shame that it seems like all Japanese manufacturers just follow same trend ... take all the parts they already have on the shelves and make a bike
To me sad and boring
But the time you end up modifying this bike to make it good and cool the price will be close 2/3 year old premium adv bike
Everyone knows if you want both you buy a KTM!!! Then after a couple of years if it’s absolutely profitable you can save a few dollars and buy a Japanese knock off Yep I said that
@@piotrmodnicki3406 To have tried the bike WITH AFTERMARHET SUSPENSIONS in a Yamaha sponsored event in Senegal (West Africa), going through sand and tight hard packed single track around bushes, although it may not be as nimble as my 450WR (obviously) it is really doing a great job. Also I'd sooner ride far from any dealership on it than on a KTM 790...Bring me a 450/500 KTM and yes just go bananas!
To the point: the main issue & reason many people sell their Yamaha Tenere 700 is its heavier wet weight (452 lbs.) & were that weight is carried (too high).
I have a 2012 blue and white KLR. I bought it new. I'll never sell it.
I may add this to my collection though.
But right now I am actually looking at the DCT Rebel 1100. Just because it's so different from anything I've ever owned.
Thanks for your excellent video.
God bless you brother.
Wisconsin aye. Moved out from there last year. Used to camp up by Antigo so I know the area. Love hearing about your view on the Tenere. I just got a Triumph Tiger 1200 which is my first ADV bike or off-road style bike I've ever owned.
I really enjoy your videos, and I really like your content! I just bought a new Honda CRF Rally 300, I can't wait to get some adventure riding in.
Thanks! Glad to hear you'll be having some adventures of your own! I really wanted a 300 when they came out but couldn't get ahold of one and bought another KLR instead haha. I might still get one someday!
The honeymoon is over. Now it's realities turn. Modifying and tweaking is all part of the fun though. Enjoy. Thanks for the video Swankdude.
Haha true. Thanks!!!
I have a T700 here in Madrid and yes you need to step hard on that back break to make it slide, and on the road is worse, you have to push very hard for it to break properly. As per the exhaust pipe, I am mounting an outback motortrek rear rack to try protect it a bit. Great videos. Salud.
Yeah I was afraid of that, was hoping it was just my weak foot. Oh well, maybe a steel braided line and some new pads will help. A rear rack is a good idea! Thanks!
Glad to see you back up on two wheels if that bike is new you may want to wait till the warranty period is over before doing mods some may void the warranty good luck enjoy the videos
Thanks, it feels good! Yeah... I think I might have already voided it with the high fender kit. Cutting the exhaust off would probably do it for sure though haha.
awesome commentary! I ride motorcycles for 26 years non stop. I own a T7 for about a year now coming from smaller dirt bikes and much experience in MX tracks back when I was a lot younger & I'm love the T7 so much!! my main downsides for this bike is sometimes the suspension feedback back and forth is unexpected if riding fast and the weights, losing 20 - 30 kilograms will ensure a much much better bike.
Thank you and thanks for sharing!
Been following your channel for about a year now and am so glad you’re that happy with the Tenere. Yes the KLR is a great bike. The Tenere is a formidable weapon, on and off-road. I went with the Tiger 2019/800 and am loving every single mile. It’s all a matter of personal choice. All ADV bikes are extremely good now, hard to find a clunker in this day and age. Happy Trails. 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
Thanks! I'd agree, with the right tires and the right mind set any adv bike is good one. The Tiger in specific though is a great machine. Happy safe trails to you as well!
800 XC or ABS? Not sure which to go with for light dual sport riding... didn’t know if the XC had better off road gearing. Thanks!
Nice job. Just curious what mic you have in your helmet, thanks.
I don't disagree with your commentary on the bike's negatives per se - I got mine in October - but I see things a bit differently. The T-7 is a legit Adventure bike that people are choosing to RIDE like a "big dirt bike". I know that ruffles some skirts out there, but I think it is very true and this is why:
1) It's built around the MT-07 Engine which is one of the most successful naked bikes on the market. Will it rip on the trails? Oh yeah, we know it will. Does is carve on the street? Oh HELL yes, you better believe it does - because it is designed to.
2) It's set up for adventure riding, not dirt bike riding. What's adventure riding? Everyone has their opinion - for some people it is rarely going on asphalt. For others (like me) It's riding 60/40. I wanted a bike that I can comfortably pack up, ride on all sort of roads to the places I wanna see and then also be able to explore fire roads like you are doing in this video. And the T-7 does all of this beautifully.
3) It's weight, size and geometry. It's 450 pounds, it has a fairly large, TALL front end, A fairly large instrument and headlight tower and it's stock suspension isn't really set up for heavy off-roading (a complaint that every dirt biker who has bought the bike has screamed about endlessly) - because its a freakin' ADV bike! - That people are trying to ride like a dirt bike! Personally, if I wanted an Enduro bike that would barely see asphalt, then I would have would have gone for something like Honda's new CRF450L and kitted that out for heavy off roading.
I am happy with my T-7 and I think it is going to be amazing for this coming riding season and it will see plenty of Asphalt and a good deal of gravel and hard pack - as it is designed for. My 2 cents - flame away.
Oh yeah I couldn't agree more! I totally didn't realize it but it sort of sounded like I was saying it was only a big dirt bike and not good for adv. I think it's actually the perfect ADV bike, super capable both on and off road. Even though I don't really do hwy stretches longer than an hour at a time I could see loading it up and riding much much farther. Actual dirt bikes are cool but I've never been on the Tenere and wished I was on a 450 with a smaller windshield, I always know I'll enjoy having both the 700 motor and wind protection on the way back home. The KLR was a great bike for how I ride, just didn't have the power I wanted, the T7 is PERFECT.
@@SwankyCatProductions great reply - I enjoy your channel and your content - fun to watch you putting the T-7 through it's paces and I like how you have kitted your bike out - keep up the great content.
Thought about patreon? Still don’t have a bike but definitely appreciate the time and effort you put into your channel and family and definitely look forward to your videos and the escape from the madness of life they offer. Love to help support your commitment to both!!! You’ve had a good core group, it appears, for as long as I’ve been watching your channel. Thinking I’m, likely, not the only one.
Awe, Jim that's one of the nicest comments I've ever gotten, thank you!!! That's so cool to hear you look forward to them and that they are an escape for you. I've actually got a patreon link in the video descriptions I just never advertise it ha-ha. Comments like yours are what make it all worth while though!
Great comment & a great response. Well done Gentleman 👍🏼
@@SwankyCatProductions WOW, I even looked before I said that. Messaged you a week or so about that but thinking you don’t look at messenger much. Oh well, keep up the great work!!
Nope I'm terrible about it haha sorry... Also I need to figure out my patreon password, it sent me your message via email but I can't get into it ha ha. Thank you so much and I'll definitely be sending you a shirt!!!
Yo another Wisconsin guy! Got my sub. Liking your content.
Thanks for not playing any annoying rock music in your video..good job!
Ha-ha no problem! Thank you!
Glad your enjoying the new ride Ben
Thanks man!
Ha the happy little trees and happy little clouds😆 brings back memories of care bears and mom and grandma taking lessons from Bob's videos
Yeah? Haha. I just heard about him recently and found the channel on Pluto, can't stop watching now lol.
I like the Desert Village Sunset Scene...it's the 2:51 video🤭
Good to see you're healing up and riding again. Seems like an overall great bike except for that exhaust (seriously Yamaha???). Time to catch up on a lot of Swanky vids now that the KLR's put away for the winter.
Haha yeah other than that it's pretty awesome!
Dude that HWK gear is the best stuff I’ve found for the money. Lost one button off my britches in the washer/dryer, otherwise it’s been awesome on trips.
I love it too!!!
So funny to read this. I started riding again with HWK gear and then “upgraded “ to a first gear Kilimanjaro jacket, but the HWK is equally protective and more comfortable.
I thought I was one of the only ones to wear HWK 😂 tbh I like their gear, it’s affordable and works! just bought my very first bike ever at 27 and it’s a blast! Ktm 390 adv... perfect to learn on and small enough for beginners. Safe riding!
Yup, that long shift link arm would also be a snag point if you're going "through the shit" on some less than traveled trails or otherwise. I've come out of deep weeds and brush on my 1200GSA and the skid plate, brake and shifter had many twigs and leaves stuck in them. Getting that linkage pulled off by something substantial is very possible. Nice video. Thanks for taking the time.
Hmm yeah I suppose I was thinking it could get pushed in... out would be the real problem haha. I've certainly picked up brush with my KLR and even had the front tire fire sticks up at my feet.... Yuck lol.
Looks like a Blair Witch Project type of forest you were riding through there! Spooooookay! Have you ever considered riding this trail solo on a moonless night? That would surely incentivize me to put the pedal to the metal and skedaddle outta there in a big hurry, especially on Halloween night. LOL... Ride safe my friend!
Had a very similar ride here today. That little mud film over the hard pack is sketchy eh? Fun though. I spotted that shift linkage on the oil change video. You might be able to fab up a gaurd for it though.
That's awesome! I wish I could have gotten out today. Once I get my crash bars on I might haul the bike up north for one more ride... True, I wonder if anyone will start selling a shield for it?
Funny, after watching this, still want one. (Have 1150 GS & DCT AT) Great commentary, hello from 🇨🇦!
Haha yeah they're great bikes! I've enjoyed mine over the last few years and will be selling it to my dad next year to fund my next long term test bike. I actually just put out a new final review on it a few weeks ago.
Glad to hear you’re coming from a KLR too. Just sold mine and thinking T7 will be my next go
They are a lot a like but yet very different. People always say how good of a deal the KLR is and I don't disagree but if you're looking for something with more on road performance than I think the Tenere can be even more cost effective. I actually made a video about that if you're interested. czcams.com/video/0r7tnwC1VtE/video.html
Is the subframe removable? I only ask because of the exhaust being welded to it practically or at least the mounting point.
Hello. Great, informative videos. You mentioned Cyclops LED’s at the end. Did you swap out your headlight bulbs? Did you do all 4? Thanks.
Thank you! I did not switch out the headlights themselves, I just added there auxiliary lights. I've got another video on it actually.
Agree with your current assessment.
My next aftermarket add on will be a steering stabilizer. For me I can’t get the front end to feel planted at all on the dirt. That messes up my lines coming into loose corners. On the street though I’ve been wearing the sidewalls off because it leans and handles so well.
Tried dropping the forks through ten mm or so?
@@theoriginalEmuman I ended up buying a steering stabilizer. I've been in other situations without one and become used to it. I'll post up on how it works
Hey, love your video's here from holland. Easy accessable and learning easy mechanics explaind, keep up the good work.. Are you still riding the original tyres or what tyres are on it?
That's awesome to hear, thank you! I've got the MotoZ Tractionator Adventure tyres. There is a link in the video description to where I purchased them. They are an awesome tyre!
Really like how your GPS fits so neatly over the dash..
Thanks, I do too. It bounces around a bit due to the mount I've got but it works.
Hello there, thanks for sharing this video. What is your mount and GPS setup? it looks perfect.
I'll actually be putting out a video on that tomorrow morning!
Like the vid. Nice place to ride too. A high front fender is a definate improvement & something I am considering on my KLE 500. So many times have I been caught out with thick mud, clay & wild grass & twigs getting wedged in there locking front wheel & it's a bitch to remove. The more T7 reviews I watch the more I want one. When I bought my KLE brand new in 2006, (over the Transalp) it was the only pararell twin mid size trail bike on the market, until now...
Wow I did not realize that bike even existed. I've only ever seen KLR650s and a few KLX650s. Looks like an interesting machine!
@@SwankyCatProductions I don't know if you got the KLE over there in the state's. It came out in the 1990s then they pulled it & relaunched it in 2005 with a cosmetic face lift. Shares same head light as the Z750 & 1000. It's actually a good bike for trail riding & it handles awesome on the road I get lean it right over & scrape the footpegs. I've embarrassed quite a few sports bike riders on the bends but they pass me on the straights. Seat is too soft & suspension is too. Forks dive if breaking heavy. I don't know about your KLR but the paint finish on most Kawasakis coming into UK is poor. The gold engine paint has flaked off. Looks a right mess. Will touch that up before I trade it in for a T7 😉🤙
I also own a T700 and love it. I agree with all the 'negatives' (nothing mayor imo) and like to add one more thing: the fuel indicator stays full (6/6) for a long time (100 km), and then it goes down rapidly. It's a bit weird and I've learned to just use the distance meter as indication for when I need to stop for fuel ;)
Yeah I've noticed that too, I've got a few vehicles like that actually so I guess I'm use to it lol
This is horrible issues
The front fender looks great on the bike.... gotta get that kit
Love how it sounds.
After my t7 felt down my exhaust was bended and it hit the fork by bouncing
Nice update on your experience with the T7. Definitely hits the sweet spot for adventure riding in terms of weight and capability. I am curious what Kawasaki will do for a KLR replacement or lightweight adventure.
Thanks! I agree. I'm also looking forward to what they come up with. Might have to buy one of them too haha.
On the 23 there is six new kawi's being unveiled. The versys 1000 was updated. But the video shows 2 off roady bikes under tarps. Now if the pics are just generic moto renders, it shows the bottom of the tires below the tarp, revealing them to be sorta large rear tires.
The other 4 bikes areclearly road oriented based on each bikes little terrain clips
@@KLRmurdercycle guess you heard the news by now haha
@@tempestandacomputer6951 🤠 i might wait till 2023 and see what colors are out then. I do like the orange and khaki
Got my Tenere back a couple days ago and I will have to see if it is problem free . I agree it's great on the road , like butter . Would be nice if I had trails like that , looks a bit drier out there .
Nice, I hope it's all good for you now! Yeah I'm pretty lucky we've got a lot of good spots just an hour or so north of where I live.
What kind of GPS do you run - its a perfect fit to the t7 dashscreen ?
It’s a Garmin Nuvi 40LM
I can't decide between a T700 or a 650 vstrom '''The Suzuki has traction control and is cheaper....
which one would you buy?
Ben, won’t the pannier racks for the Tenere protect the exhaust? When I was doing my research on it I was concerned about that same issue. The guys from outback motortrek were really confident about their racks and the added protection. Also, their front crash bars really kept the sides of the bikes high off the ground when it goes down. Watch their video where they drag the Tenere off it’s kickstand behind a truck and drag it for 25-30 yards on both sides. Bike was well protected. Plus you’ll need the racks when you travel with us in 2022. Would be fun if you could make a few days of the trip with us. You and your dad.
I have Touratech racks on the back, and they do a good job keeping the exhaust protected. ( Edit: I also have Outback Motortek bars on the front (top and bottom), and they've also dont a great job at keeping the damage off my bike as well. Their drop test video is what sold me initially on them, and my own drops have endeared them to me. )
Yes I think they definitely would! I was supposed to be getting some from DirtRacks but now I guess he's going to wait to send me rear crash bars once he finishes them up. That sounds crazy, I'll have to check that out haha. We'll see where I'm at when the time comes, that would be awesome!
Fellow Wisconsin rider here. We have been seriously spoiled weather wise this Oct and November.
Yeah man it's been a nice treat, really didn't think I'd hit my 600 mile break in mark this year but I'm over 700 now!
Kawasaki's original KLE 500 was a twin in the KLR frame. Perfect mix. Some have put Versys engines in KLR frames for an awesome bike. T7 seems to be the perfect compromise.
A KLR with a Versys 1000 motor would be pretty sweet...
Dont worry just ride cross those bridges if they happen headlight fluttering is bad following cars looks like your flashing them, cheap fix is rubber beading on screen mount edges then put screen on fixed mine
that Navi looks cool, as if it belongs to the bike - what is it?
Given enough time most guy's can tear up a rock . As long as your having fun Rock and Roll'.
To anyone of you guys that have expereince with it ... Is it suitable for a 175 tall (5'7), 85 kg man?
Also, would you take it on a day , or many days long trips, given the narrow seat ? Cheers
How ya liking that HWK riding gear? I've had the same jacket in trim. I've put a year on mine other than the reflective labels on the arms it's been a great budget jacket. It's taken a beating on the gravel roads and looks better than my KLR crash bars
I've really been enjoying it! I've got a mesh coat too and it's all a seems like a steal for the price!
Awesome video brotherman 👍
Thank you!!!
One thing I dislike is the width of the rear, the flared plastic and the protruding exhaust means that when you add racls and luggage the bike becomes very wide at the rear, even wider than the handlebars.
True, we ride a lot of tight trails and I never do multi day tips so a tail bag works out best for me. I did the Camel ADV high mount exhaust kit which helps thin it out a bit and makes it much harder to bend the muffler bracket.
Now that you have a Gen 3 KLR and have done some off road, I would be curious of your pro's and con's off road between the two. Both have their advantages I'm sure. But like how the Tenere is a bit more top heavy, with the gas tank so high due to the engine height, I've seen where it's harder to pick up if you lay it down, but how does that translate to trails vs the lower center of the KLR. Honestly, I understand that there's pro's and con's of each, curious your take on them. Might be a video idea, and maybe you have already done that and I just haven't found it yet. The more of your videos I watch, the more I lean towards a middle weight adventure motorcycle over the Honda 300L/300L Rally... But I will probably see a youtube video in the next few days that will steer me back to the honda... and then a few days later back to the KLR/ Tenere debate... *sigh
Probably have to pick it up like a GS, which is pretty easy once you learn how
Like you, i have a KLR 650 and debated between upgrading to the Tenere 700 or the KTM 790 Adventure R - I am soooooo glad I opted for the KTM 790R - this bike is amazing. I too am in Northern, WI and love riding the ATV trails and this year discovered a pretty awesome single track trail near Eagle River. My riding buddies both ride DRZ 400s and on the KLR i could never consistently keep up with them (when we were really trying to rip), but with the 790R - no problem at all, in fact, I can go faster than them without fear of dying - ;)
Until it breaks in the middle of nowhere. :)
That high front fender actually looks pretty good!
Thanks! Yeah I really like it!
I’ve heard the rear suspension does make noise, something about the linkage, hopefully picking mine up on Tuesday 👍
Yeah I think I just need to learn to ignore it. Nice!
@@SwankyCatProductions Wow what a sweet bike! I’ve only ridden dirt bikes or enduro bikes, this bike is cooler than my girls Hypermotard!
I just watched a CZcams video where a guy named Tony crashed offroad in Queensland Australia at relatively low speed and bent the exhaust and hanger exactly as you described.
I've seen some pictures recently where the whole hanger just brakes off ha ha
The high fender can look fine and is obviously more functional when it comes to sticky mud or sucking a rock between the tire/fender and exploding the fender into 5 pieces (The rock between the fender happened on my 990). I love the Dakar look of the low fender so I'll run it until I have a problem. Since we're sharing opinions here, the 06-09 yz fender you chose looks big and goofy, at least choose a supermoto style fender like Camel ADV and others use.
I actually had a super moto fender on it at first and decided I didn't like it. Looked to small for the bike and the 21" front wheel. Also made a huge mess of the radiator ha-ha. The new one was a bit of a shock but now that I'm use to it I love it.
can you please tell me what size your rear Motoz tire is ???
Awesome for yamaha and ktm to delivery such serious response to meet our demand for mid size, true off road capable adventure bikes. I like them both, Its the only options my group of riders have for our off road long distance adventure's. Who's gonna be next to give us such a machine, Kawi or honda? who know's.
z zim I’ve heard rumors of a midsize Africa twin variant in the works. I’d love to see what Honda would put out
How’s the wind management on the T7? Had a 500X and it was terrible. I am 6’1” tho. Just watched the oil change video. Are the rails that hold the bash plate just for the bash plate? Part of the frame? Seem a little small/weak when I looked at one.
Your lower body is protected really well, I'm 5'10" and the wind hits me right in the face which makes for a noisy ride. I've actually got a video about those rails too. The manual says not to jack the bike up under the skid plate because the rails aren't made for it. They are not part of the frame, just bolted to the frame and peg brackets. I think they are stronger than they give them credit for though.
What are your thoughts on spending $1000 on a four year extended factory warranty for the Yamaha T7?
So when you gonna make your way out to Tennessee? We got a boat load of great off road and amazing asphalt!
I suppose your still riding now? We've been just above freezing here so that sounds pretty nice right now haha.
@@SwankyCatProductions damn straight we are! Been in the 70's last few days. Not to rub it in or anything...
Great channel Swanky Cat, love the T700. You commented about the chain slapping around. Did you notice these bikes don't have a chain guide under the swingarm like most dirt bikes do. Yamaha offers one, which I have on backorder for my bike. That'll probably fix that. I'm sure something will be available from aftermarket at some point too. Keep up the great work on the channel!
Wisconsin, where are these trails located? I am trying to get this motorcycle bad, there is a chance I might still do it this year
This is Langlade country forest near Antigo.
Enjoying your content mate. Im putting a video together to rebut a few of your points ;) So when I mention you, dont take offence, it will be for the fun of it! ;) Cheers.
Thanks! Haha no worries man, I'm looking forward to checking it out!
@@SwankyCatProductions if you want a better exhaust mounting idea, I've just uploaded to u tube my own modification to exhaust, check it out it may give you ideas, just search yamaha tenere 700 modifications 👍
Low fender is not a sport bike fender - just look at Dakar rally bikes... And Tenere is defo Dakar look-a-like bike. It's styled as a rally bike, not a dirt bike. There's also aerodynamic reason for it - at high speed (and this bike can do 120 MPH) high fender, especially such cumbersome like yours can cause vibration and lack of directional stability. Benefit of high fender is that mud won't pack up between the wheel and the fender , but Tenere's fender is adjustable, and if you going on a tenere to mud deeper than the axis of your wheels - you doing something wrong here :-)
What type of crash bars are you getting? You may have mentioned, but I missed it.
DirtRacks! They're in my basement waiting for me right now!
have a '17 AT, rode my buddies T7.
One thing that threw me off is that the T7 has a significantly shorter steering lock. I hit the T7 steering lock and dropped his bike because I was used to the short turns I could make on my AT.
Besides that the two bikes are pretty darn similar, the T7 just feels like a taller, narrower version of the AT, maybe more nimble cuz of the lower weight? Feels like you're sitting on top the bike whereas the AT feels like you're sitting in the bike.
idk why im comparing these two bikes here but there ya have it...
I think that's good info thank you! My dad's Tiger 800XC also feels like you sit down in it rather than on top like the Tenere.
Besides the KLR you mentioned, have you ridden any other mid sized adventure bikes? If so, do tell how they compare.
Before the KLR I had a DRZ 400. I've currently got an XL250R and have spent time on both my dad's XC800 and Sherpa 250. So to answer your question, the KLR and the XC800 are the closest competitors and I'd take one Tenere over both of those. Both of them are good bikes but the Tenere is a step above in my opinion. I just released a video today where my dad and I switch bikes. The difference is extremely noticable.
Great review ......How does the fuel economy compare with the KLR??
Thanks I can't remember exactly but it's really pretty impressive over 50 if I recall correctly.
I'm sitting at 55mpg but I expect that to go down a bit once I break the engine in and start getting on the throttle.
Happy little trees 🌲 🌳
Main issue & reason many people sell their *_Yamaha Tenere 700_* is its heavier wet weight (452 lbs.) & were that weight is carried (too high).
I have the OEM racks and guards on my T7. It does offer additional protection to exhaust. I am still very interested in tucking the exhaust in closer when that mod hits the street. Anti-bobble head is a great upgrade if you ride off-road. I think I will buy a shifter linkage arm and zip-tie it under the seat just to have. Probably a non-issue, but its on my mind. I adjusted the rear brake pedal, helped some, but a little weak still. Maybe a braided line would help. Stay up on two! Big B
I might get some sort of rack or guard for the back in the meantime but it think the tucked exhaust will be ideal either way. Having an extra linkage would be a good idea. I've been think adjusting my lever too, I think that's part of my problem. A braided line would also be a good fix I suspect. You too Big B!!!
I like my 2009 KLR 650 but when compared to the Tenere 700, it falls short in several areas. The Tenere would be the perfect bike for me! I am hoping to upgrade next year. Depending on 2 things, 1. How the economy is doing? and 2. What Kawasaki does on the new improved KLR? Supposedly Kawasaki will release more info on November 23rd! 👍🏻🙏🏻😀
T7 is a game changer,.. Hope the next Kawi come fast..
Interesting you were in 2nd gear most of the time ad the engine was just cruising. At the speed you were going (around 25-35) and on those types of roads I would be in 3rd gear and shifting to 2nd often on my 1190. The T7 motor seems much more suited to that sort of riding than many of the bigger bikes plus it kills them in more technical riding. Plus once I crank the throttle in the dirt on my 1190 it loses traction at the same speed the T7 would so I wouldn't be going any faster on gravel roads. The only time I would rather have my 1190 is during straight line acceleration on black top (which never gets old), fast sweeping twisties (fun but I would rather dirt roads these days) and track days (which I've only done twice). Otherwise the T7 is better in almost every way, including comfort and cool factor. The only problem I had with my test ride of the T7 is it didn't feel special and although the T7 is considered a value buy, if I'm going to drop that much money on a bike I want it too feel special....
In regards to what gear I'm usually in, I honestly would not have been able to tell you. I never even think about it on the T7, where as on my KLR I felt like I always between gears yet was never in the right one no matter what lol. The first time I rode my Tenere (granted it was the first time I'd been on a bike in months and my last ride ended abruptly when I got pulverized by a van) I was sort of uncomfortable and unsure of what I really thought. It felt good but idk sort of off. But now with just under 800 miles I absolutely love this machine. I'm not sure if it was me or just that the seat, suspension and motor needed some time or what but it's all come together quite nicely.
Does anybody know if you can get a stubby exhaust like they put on the mt07s? They sound CRAZY good plus would be out of the way..... Would water crossings be an issue with them?
I've actually thought about that too, Jake the Garden Snake put his through some crazy stuff this Summer so I'd assume you could get away with it but I'm going to be doing the Camel ADV high mount kit.
@@SwankyCatProductions The stock can actually sounds really nice on the t7. Moving it out of harms way and saving a little weight is a must for off road but for those not pushing it off road I think they could be happy with the stock sound. I liked it better than my 1190 with an Akro.
I spent the first minute of the video trying to figure out why your bike looked wrong. Turns out it was just the high mount fender
Haha yeah definitely gives it a different look!
T7 could be my next bike. Love at first ride for me.
It's definitely a fun machine!!!
Japanese bikes are like a black-and-white TV gets the job done does what it needs to do
There are a couple of kits made to make the T7 seat one piece, it doesn't look that hard to build, probably can do it yourself.
I saw those and had that same thought. I got side tracked during the video but meant to say that I've been contemplating getting a lower seat but wanted to break mine in and see how it felt before doing anything. But I might try to connect it eventually.
Wouldn’t crash bars (required equip on ADV) prevent exhaust damage,?
Nope, most don't stick out far enough to protect the pipe. Pannier racks do but I ride stuff that's way to tight for them.
I have a 2016 FZ07 too.GREAT engine!
The motor is a beautiful thing!
@@SwankyCatProductions I love my FZ-07.I will have it until I or it dies.I might even rebuild it if I have to.
What kind of helmet do you wear? Did you modify the bike, wich link?
It's a GMAX GM-11. There's a link for it in the description.
Its cool watching a video where the guy on the motorcycle says, should we go to Antigo, and I know exactly what he is talking about. And to answer your question, no you don't want to go to Antigo.
Lmao that's awesome! Antigo isn't that bad though... Haha.
@@SwankyCatProductions Yeah, Antigo is cool, I even raced RC cars back in the day in the old shoe factory. Watched the sprint cars race a few times. Even bought my last motorcycle there. It is just standard procedure if you are from Wausau to rip on towns north of Wausau. Have fun on the trails.
How did they think that exhaust was a good idea?! Oh well, I'm sure there will be a ton of aftermarket fixes for that eventually.
Yeah I really have no idea, I think they were sort of pushed to get the bike out the door but you'd think it could have been tucked up a lot tighter without much effort.
@@SwankyCatProductions They were pushed to get it out the door - how many years after the prototype lol?
Might want to remember to turn off the ABS while on the dirt 😜, nice bike though like the look of the high fender.
My dad always has to turn his off on his Tiger. I've only had it kick in once or twice on my bike, I never really realized it till now but I guess I almost never use my breaks off road ha-ha (I should still turn it off though). Thanks!
@@SwankyCatProductions been watching your videos for a while now and like you, I sold my KLR to get the Tenere. Never have regretted it !!
I liked the KLR but the T7 is on another level.
I really don t like the digital tachometer at this tenere, it looks like a tetris game :)). It can be changed ?
I actually thought it looked super cheap in pictures and videos but it person I think it actually looks really nice and not cheap at all.
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I rode one back to back with my KLR and didn't like it. Heavy and wide between the ankles..not for me..
What rear tire are you running and how well does it grip on wet pavement?
I've got links to both tires in the video description, I've personally never had an issue with them in any situation but do of course take it easy when the pavement is wet.
@@SwankyCatProductions Thank you, I had missed that before.
Africa Twin!!! but I do love the Tenere 700.
I'd like one of those someday too!
Where are you riding in this video? Looks like a nice place.
It is! Langlade county in northern Wisconsin.
Does it have ABS? Rear brakes can be touchy.
Yep it does, seems to act about the same regardless of it being disabled or not.
How are you recording audio?? So clear!
I think I've got links to some of it in the video description but not the mic since they discontinued the ones I've got. Basically I've got a lapel mic in my helmet connected to an adapter the plugs into the camera.
@@SwankyCatProductions thanks for the info. Do you put something on the mic to dampen wind noise?
@@daedalus9042 just the little foam cap that it came with. Works fine for speeds under 45 mph, after that things get a little noisy.
Eager to hear about the exhaust mod.
Check Facebook on tenere world rade t7 modifications, posted yesterday 👍
@@neilcollinson6540 I can't seem to find it.
OK. I will upload to u tube 👍
Just uploaded on u tube title yamaha tenere 700 modifications, search in videos in last hour👍
@@neilcollinson6540 Found it.Looks cool but I wonder,you might bend the frame and total your bike,so he put that exhaust on and added some "crash bar" type things,which are bolted to the frame,which might bend the frame and total the bike...
Seems like the suspension can’t soak up stutter bumps?
Yeah I think I need to do some adjustments, I've got everything set at the mid levels.
I just got my T7 on Satruday.I traded in my MT10 for it though.:-( I'm in Minnesota.Gonna start ordering parts.
Nice! The Tenere will make up for your loss once you get it off road.
Damn ... do you regret it? I can’t see ever getting rid of the mt10 ... no other bike imo will fill that void
@@greygoose4x46 It was gonna get my license revoked and or get me put in jail.Yeah I miss it,but I could always buy another one.
@A Stoic's Door I have less than 500 miles so far but I like it.Same engine as my FZ07 which is great.The T7 has as much clearance,maybe more than the CRF450L and the XR650L.I used to have a 650L.
@A Stoic's Door Yeah you are correct.I don't need that much clearance as I am old and won't be riding that carzy.Unless I do.:-) Where in Mn are ya?
Where were you riding at in this video?
Langlade county forest roads.
You could buy a roadbike like a MT-09 and a motocross like a CRF250/450.
OR you buy a dual purpose bike like that Ténéré, which can do both! But maybe not perfect.
True and I'd much rather have the T7 so I can enjoy the roads on the way to the trails!
Man, I live in Arizona, you cannot have your license plate mounted up and down, horizontal only !
I'm not sure it's legal here in Wisconsin either actually haha. I'll find out eventually!
Is it just me ..or nobody else wants to tell him...how stupid that plate looks on the bike..
I hope there's a trooper out there that will citation you for your plate...🤣
Great bike thinking of getting one....I know one thing for sure though I will leave the plate in the oem..position👍