Tenere 700 Modifications Hype - This Madness Needs to Stop!
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- čas přidán 13. 02. 2022
- Bigger petrol tank, better suspension, different exhaust, and hundreds more...
I have the feeling that in the last two years since the model came into the market, all companies that produce motorcycle accessories are focused on Tenere 700. So the question is: How much money do you need to invest to prepare your Tenere for traveling? In this video, I will share my honest opinion. So if you have nothing to do, grab your favorite drink and stay with me!
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In this fake world and with so many people, who don't have a clue about what they are doing (in many aspects, not only in the motorcycle community), we need honest, different and direct persons like you, Pavlin, to tell us the truth, even if sometimes it's hard to swallow for many people. Another great video with perfect advice and explanations. I don't ride a Tenere. And may be I'll never do it, but still I watch all your videos about this bike! You're awesome. Keep it up and I hope to see you on the road in Bulgaria one day!
Thank you, Nikola!
Excactly!
Good talk, I hope people listen. Thanks!
Some years ago, I travelled on a second hand 1980 Honda XL 500 from Belgium to South Afrika; 1 year and +/- 30.000km.
I took 1 spare tire (23 inch...!) and mounted a bigger petrol tank of 15l (10l original) .... nothing else.
I arrived safe and sound and shipped the bike back to Belgium. It still runs OK.
Thanks for sharing!
23 inch? I had no idea this even existed...
@@22fret The XL250s of the time had it too. Only Bridge stone made them.
Also, the longer rear shocks ever made (2 of them) . Fun bikes (not)
Wow! We have some things in common. I had a 1981 XL500, and in 1986 my buddy and I went on an adventure from the Sierras of Northern Calif. to the Canadian border (Port Angeles, WA). The total trip was 3,300 miles. We each had a duffle bag, sleeping bag and a fishing pole. I carried the tent, propane burner and cooking stuff, and My buddy had the small ice cooler. We lived on trout, beer and baked potatoes. We caught over 200 trout, but only kept three each, each day (2 for dinner, 1 for breakfast). We stayed on dirt roads and motorcycle tracks as much as possible. On the way up we really hardly touched pavement. On the way back down we ran along the coast chasing sea run cutthroats so a bit more pavement. 15 of the best days of my life. I love watching the adventure bike youtubers now and smiling that I did that 37 years ago, before most of them were born. I'm getting a new Tenere in about a month and thinking about a trip through western Argentina and Southern Chile.
Briliant!
This kind of solid thinking/perspective is one of the many reasons I appreciate your channel so much! Also was glad to hear your 'simple solution' thoughts on the suspension. As I am very similar size and riding style (not so much distance) as you, these are things I may address as well, but in the last 6,000 miles it has not been a problem! Cheers Pavlin!
Awesome! Thank you for taking the time again, Allen!
You are absolutely right
STOP BUYING, START RIDING.......the best conclusion of a really truer and good video.
Pavlin,
you have guessed this bike is well engeenerd for 95% of typical use and riders. The real and stupid problem: 95% of us riders are having to much time to spend --and obviously to much money to pay--, for a dream, instead of going for a ride. That's why accessories trade works.....good that you pointed it out...
Absolutely!
As usual, total common sense based on experience. This may not be what you want to hear but you KNOW IT IS TRUE. Spend your money on miles and memories not useless gadgets. Thank you Pavlov.
Any time, Chris!
They always says more is better...!
But more simple is more better.
I agree!
I installed stronger springs. I also weigh 105kg and have installed a 90N/mm at the rear and a 6.6N/mm at the front. The motorcycle deflects much more gently on the road, with slight bumps, and offers more reserves under heavy loads. I would recommend everyone to install springs with the right spring rate for them. I just turned compression and rebound 3 clicks further to close.
With the right spring rate, the vehicle offers a much smoother ride. The spring force is not the same and is not linear even with a linear spring. That means you need much less power for the first few centimeters of spring travel than for the last few centimeters of spring travel. If the springs are already compressed by 50% due to the driver's weight being too high, the springs respond harder, you need much more force for a few centimeter of needed extra springtravel, than with harder springs.
Thanks for sharing!
I absolutely love your no nonsense approach to this subject and motorcycle travel in general.
Excellent advice….please do more videos like this….!!!
Thanks, will do!
You hit me right in the eye… and it stings!
I havn’t bought larger petrol tank, but i always look for those options.
Can this bike have added fuel, ”only 16 litres”. But in my real world and the way i travel i most likely Would manage a lot less fuel. In Sweden we have pretty close between gas stations.
I know i am manipulated by all the exploring hype add on Mega tanks and survival racks. A must have! But i really deep down know i dont need it. But still consider buying.
So, i got a black eye from this video and went down to Earth again. 🌍
Thanks for the video.
Any time! Invest the money that I saved you in something else, petrol for example!
'Stop buying and start riding' - Great practical advice as always Pavlin !.. I think you must allow yourself a fairly long time riding any bike before you start modifying it because parts you think might be a problem or you are told will be a problem are often not a problem at all, or else the problem is so small that you get used to it and don't notice it any more..
Very true!
Excellent video! This is really down to earth, sane advice from a person who has the relevant experience! Subscribed!
Good advice Pavlin as always.
I remember you saying.
Just ride with what bike you have in your garage!
Even an old Honda C90 cub can be a great adventure. 👍
Right on!
Thank you so much! For three months Ive been "googling" this motorcycle and possible mods. Im looking to buy one, and I like off road, perhaps even a little bit of single trail. So because of all the videos Ive watched I became a little bit afraid. Afraid that I must change things on my coming bike. I am now much more at ease. You have done me a great service!
Glad I could help!
Very true! Thank you for all the useful information your channel provide! Greetings from Burgas!
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Pavlin, as usual, very good and pragmatic advices. Keep on this way.
Thanks, will do!
Excellent advice in every way Pavlin. Such common sense. Always enjoy your videos and views.
Thanks, Sean!
If you are going to upgrade a motorcycle, suspension and maybe crash protection are are the most important. If you plan on big mile days, some saddle modifications are in order.
Ok
Very good perspective on adventure riding and what is necessary vs ‘nice to have’. Having said that, I have changed the rear spring and added a Seatconcept..!
Congrats on the new bike. More adventures await you and us too !
Can't wait!
Great advice! Always consistent and entertaining!
Thanks!
Thankyou for your English production. Good to hear from people in other parts of the world with different opinions. Keep up the good work.
You give so much good and sensible information. Awesome. You'r channel is a must for every motorrider traveller. Learning a lot from you. And you put me on my feet again.
I appreciate that!
Well said, Pavlin. Waiting on your new exciting trips
Very soon!
As usual, very good advices Pavlin! It is true that many riders are happy only when they modify their machines, it's not always improving it and sometimes it is a bad replacement option. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and keep up doing your best to inform us.
My pleasure, Marc!
Good explanation
It's so nice to ride your own motorcycle the more money you have in your pocket the more you can enjoy your bike and see more beautiful places
Keep riding and meet more people and places
🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱👍👍👍
Absolutely!
Your honesty and frankness is refreshing. In the end, just ride and enjoy. Cheers.
Very well said as usual! You don't buy into all the hype talk! Good discussion brother!👍
I appreciate that!
Excellent content.
Exceptionally well presented.
A pleasure listening to you.
Many many thanks!
Excellent recommendations and back to the actual requirements and how/where you will ride.
Exactly!
Great video, love the Akrpovič explanation. Greatings from Slovenija.
Awesome, thank you!
Thank you for talking sense into me. You just saved me a lot of money.
Glad I could help!
Just found this channel. I'm planning a round the world ride and these videos are invaluable! Thanks so much Pavlin. Have purchased your first book also. Will drop you a line when I get to Bulgaria. Ride safe!
Welcome aboard!
Great video Pavlin, coming from an owner of a T700, this is very genuine, well done!! 👍👍
Glad you liked it!
I don't bike and not likely to start at 76. But I like to learn and have become fascinated with biking. You are a very smart man with loads of experience. You make a very practical and well thought out video. Thanks. Good luck with your riding and channel.
I fully agree with Allen Huling comments. Solid and practical advices. Thank you. keep the video coming.
Thanks, man!
Както винаги си прав, много ми харесва да чувам твоята гледна точка, защото разчупваш един въпрос от много ъгли и така се разбира всичко от до, как реално стоят нещата, благодарско:)
Моля! Радвам се, че канала помага!
Thanks Pavlin. This video makes as much sense as yours usually does. When I started with long touring was 1976 and I was driving a BMW R90S. Maybe not the best motorcycle for the purpose. But with it, I was all the way to Egypt. Drove highways but also crossed the Sinai Desert. It went a little slower than if I rode an adventure bike but it worked perfectly well. At that time there were no GPS or mobile phones. You had to ask people and use paper maps. But what fantastic memories and people you met. When this pandemic is over and I'm retired, I'll come and explore your country, which I've never visited. Thank you for your channel and welcome here to the north, Finland, Sweden and Norway. Wish you nice rides.
Thanks for sharing your story and thanks for the invitation!
Wisdom cannot be bought on the aftermarket. Thanks for helping us youngsters on the way! 👌🏽
Any time!
Some good motorcycle wisdom. 100% accurate in my opinion. Great video.
Wise words of wisdom Pavlin. Thank you for sharing your hard earned and practical experience $$!
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant analysis! All so true!
I've got the T7 and I do long trips. I TOTALLY agree with you on everything! 👍..best regards from Denmark.
Cool, thanks!
And ty for such an evenhanded approach. As always. I'll only be doing the absolute necessary mods, for how I plan to ride.
Good!
Thanks for the honest opinion. Greetings from Poland
My pleasure!
This is the best channel for common sense advice to bikers. Well done mate love your channel 👍🏆
I appreciate that!
"Stop buying and start riding" - sounds like a very very good advice to me, as a very novice rider! :)
Love your videos.
Well reasoned advice. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
I couldn't agree more with you on everything. Very good 👏👏👏
Glad to hear it!
In a world of “never enough”, it’s refreshing to see an honest assessment of what is not actually needed.
Thanks, man!
as usual, straight forward, Pavlin you are the best ✌
Thank you!
Well done again. Very good, practical approach.
Glad you liked it!
I ve said it many times before and i will keep saying it.
Best guy on youtube about bikes and personal favorite!Keep up the great work and keep on being the inner voice of logic for many people!
Wow, thanks! I will do my best to provide useful information!
Sound advise Pavlin! Thanks for charing! Stay safe.
Thanks, you too!
You have provided a great service to the T7 community with this video. I have watched so many people spend so much money on motorcycles that they regreted later. To your point regarding stock suspension, just adding a few milliliters of fork oil will make your forks more progressive and bottom out less without hurting your ride much and along with taking time to play with damping setting and oil viscosities by mixing weights in some cases can help dial in many forks.
Thank you Pavlin!! All to the point
Glad it was helpful!
Thank u brother u educated me a lottt
Excellent info. At last a man who says it as it is. Common sense is a rare commodity these days. You make very good videos , many thanks.
Thanks, man!
As usual you make perfect sense. Great advice.
I appreciate that!
Right thoughts for the good things.Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
I liked that Pavlin stop buying and start riding and I'm really thinking to start doing this.
Thank you so much for the advice.
Be safe always.
Go for it!
Some valid points there thankyou 👍
Any time!
Good perspective, it's all too easy to be tempted to do upgrade after upgrade just because it's fun, when you stop and think through it, few upgrades are really necessary. Keep up the good work.
I will, thanks for taking the time!
Good advice again - keep up the good work!!
Thanks, will do!
Respect!! Thanks for posting this …
My pleasure!
Pavlin
Down to earth sensible advice from a sensible motorcycle adventurer.
Thanks once again for the sound advice
My pleasure, John!
Even I'm in Malaysia and riding small bike with not so long distance journey, so many tips that you shared in here is useful and practical for me.
Thank you sir!
Any time!
Thank you. Great reality check.
Wonderfully objective viewpoints. Hello from Texas!
Hello there!
Very well said! I have been caught into the modification trap a number of times only to regret it. No more!
Good!
Brutally honest as always Pavlin. Of course most Mods are just fun and its about working around the bike. I do only change the really necessary things which make my riding more comfortable on the long term (it has to fit my body). I recently changed my bike completely to a model with better suspension as i dont want to mod my whole bike which i had before. Was the best decision for me as i didnt know if i would ever be happy with neverending modding the previous bike.
Before i change my muffler (which is nonsense in the EU), id rather go on a motorcycle trip for a week with my tent.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks a lot also for this, Pavlin. You have really contributed a lot over the years, and I'm sure there is much more to come 👍 But now you, yourself have also mounted an after-marked exhaust on your Tenere 700 🙂
My pleasure!
Tnx for all the good tips you share, and the videos. My first season back on two wheel after many years. (20 years) And i choosed the Versys 650 because of that, long journeys is my goal, and the -18 model was perfect to get up and run again. heheh the lack of umph, when loaded, (Grand tourer spec) made my long gone, young guy go searching for the same exhaust system you mentioned, i admit. Too expensive i thougt, but what you said made more sence than the cost, i realized. And thank you for the inspiration, from the north part of Norway. :-)
You are welcome any time!
That is great advice Pavlin..."Stop buying and start riding ".. Stay and ride safe !!
I will, thanks!
Wisdom, Common Sense and Experience. What A Great Video.
I appreciate that!
Good stuff good commentary good philosophy!
Much appreciated!
Pragmatic as always!👏
Best honest down to earth review so far. Thanks for the hard truth that so many of us needs to be brought back down to reality
My pleasure!
I've been riding for over 40 years. I've never changed the exhaust or suspension on any of my bikes because of cost. You give good advice. Thanks.
Don't touch if works.
I'm about to acquire my 1st bike, which is going to be a tenere and I needed to watch this video. Everyone keeps saying: "you must change this, you must do that" and I always wonder why. I totally agree with your point of view and I apply it to almost every purchase I make, but in the bike world I'm new and I don't know how stuff works, so I'm really glad I came across this video! +1 subscriber! 🤘
Glad to help!
Good advise!👍
What good sense, thank you. Les
Glad it was helpful!
Pavlin the wise! Thanks a lot for all the advises that you share!
Any time!
Wow. Just stumbled onto your channel. Great advice!
Welcome aboard!
Hi Pavlin! Great to hear those words from you, but less, ride more. I totally agree!
One more thing about the exhaust, that is the reason why I changed it for a high mount type: the issue might be bending the bracket that holds the OEM muffler if you drop the bike on the right side.
Beside scratching the muffler, the risk is to also scratch the rear swingarm!
I think it’s worth mentioning it.
I absolutely love this bike, that bracket tho…is not very well engineered 🤦🏻♂️
I agree about the bracket, but don't like the solutions that I have seen so far.
@@motorcycleadventures HP Corse is pretty good.
Hi Pavlin!
Amazing video!
In regards of exhaust and suspension, I had exactly the same thoughts on my Multistrada 950 and I didn't do it as it's just not nessesary! Yes to set up the suspension on my 950 was a bit of a headache, but it is what it is and at the end they are perfect for my needs! If you ever plan middle east your very welcome!
Yes I am not anymore in Bucharest!
Safe Rides! Nicolai
Hi Nicolai, where are you now?
@@motorcycleadventures I am in the United Arab Emirates / Ajman.
Hopefully my bike arrives next month too here.
Cool!
"Stop buying and start riding" 😁👏. Totally agree Pavlin. Greetings from Chile.
Thanks, man!
Very sound opinion/advice. Well said. This is the kind of wisdom that comes from experience, not armchair theories.
Thanks, man!
Hello Pavlin.,
thank you for your honest and enriching videos. It's great to get tips from an experienced rider like you.
I rode many KMs a GS Adv and one of the routes was from GER to Ukraine to Sevastopol and always had way too much with it. I was often weighed down by the heavy bike and also the accessories and lots of luggage. A lot of it was unnecessary, as you say, mostly everything. For e.g. I even had protection around the brake fluid reservoir on the handlebars. Completely unnecessary - I had to remove it at great expense to open the reservoir.
So I love your approach and your proof that traveling light is better in all situations. Even through life, by the way.
I sold the GS back then and now I think that the T7 is the better bike for ME.
Thank you!
Glad to help! Good luck on your trips!
Good advice my friend!!
Thanks, man!
"Stop buying and start riding!"
Awesome Pavlin!!
Thanks, Frankie!
Hey Pavlin, greetings from Texas, USA. I absolutely Agree with everything you have concluded here as it’s rooted in common sense and experience. I’m 60 years old and have an artificial shoulder on my left side as of February of last year. Before I had this shoulder replacement my Dr told me I can keep riding but, I must get a lighter Motorcycle. I have been riding since I was about 6 years of age and have ridden a lot of different Bikes over the years. After much research I chose the Tenere 700 because it met my needs for a Bike big enough for long travel on roads with off road capabilities right off the dealership floor! Lower crash bars, taller Puig Windshield, Center Stand and Factory Side Cases and Auxiliary Fuel Tank from Camel-Adv and I’m finished with modifications to this Bike. Keep making these videos and, Ride On.
Enjoy your rides.
Great videos 👍
Thanks 👍
Great video!
Thanks, man!
Pavlin the last lines are the crux of your experience. Where you said stop buying and start riding. Have a great adventure. Stay blessed.
Thanks, you too!
« Stop buying and start riding “ clever advice Pavlin I will remember it👍
Thanks, man!
Thank you Pavlin. Very reasonable!
Glad it was helpful!
very good advice, thankyou
Glad it was helpful!
the old Tenere model (speaking of the DM02 from 2008 ) the tank was already 23 l (range at modest speed and luggage 400-450 km) . I never came below the reserve , even when driving in north scandinavia and the like. I never used my additional 2 l canister on the trips because of obeying the rule "Never miss an opportunity to refuel!"
I completely agree with your approach, Pavlin. You need only a few things to start with, mainly comfort and protection. If you find out after thousands of miles on and off the road that you need to invest, well then you can get rid of some heard earned Euros. I think money is best invested into travelling ;-)
Cheers from Nürnberg/Germany, Günter
It is what it is, Günter. Thanks for taking the time again!
Hi, you are totally right. I'm agree with you.
Glad to hear that!