INVINCIBLE 2x4 "It's Been a While" | First Time Reaction
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
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Arianna and Maple embark on another exhilarating journey with their reaction to "Invincible" Season 2, Episode 4, titled "It's Been a While." This episode intertwines flashbacks of Nolan's life in space with present-day challenges faced by Mark and his family. Watch their reactions to Nolan's close encounter with a black hole, his unexpected rise to Thraxan ruler, and the revelation of his new family. The episode heightens the emotional stakes as Mark grapples with his anger towards Nolan, further complicated by an intense confrontation with Viltrumite soldiers. Arianna and Maple provide their insights into the Graysons' battle and Nolan's capture, highlighting the complex father-son relationship and the looming threat over Earth. Meanwhile, Debbie confronts the painful truth about her relationship with Nolan, leading to decisive actions that mark a new chapter in her life. The episode also delves into Donald's mysterious survival and his struggle with identity. Stay tuned for their review after the reaction, discussing the episode's deep exploration of familial bonds, loyalty, and the larger narrative of Viltrumite domination in this action-packed animated series.
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00:00 - Reaction
25:29 - Review - Zábava
Nolan is just really proud about his books and he went out like a true influencer: Promoting his merch
“Mark… never forget… there’s some new… T-shirts… in the e-shop…”
@@christopherlundgren1700 🤣 to you and OP, for that comment i mean
I read the comics and this is correct
@@christopherlundgren1700 this comment made my day
Or it’s secretly a way to defeat them
the thraxans short life span compared to humans mirrors how the viltrumites see humans.
Yeah if you really think about it there are lots of bugs and you don't bat an eye if you crush one, same goes for viltrumites
@@doziegamerz8363not a good analogy, bugs don't talk and they don't look exactly like us.
What's a better one?
@@doziegamerz8363 there's no one, that's the point, it's a completely fictional scenario that have no good analogy with the real word.
Maybe animal used for food, like chicken or cows are the closest representation for an analogy, but since they don't look like us and we can't communicate with them, still not exatcly a good comparisom
@@lucasmatsuocaThis is why I’m always annoyed anytime some fuckass super powerful type villain goes on those stupid evil monologues where they say shit akin to “if you step on an ant, do you stop to apologize to it?”
Like, sapience is OBVIOUSLY the defining factor here. If an ant was just as sapient as a human, then I WOULD respect it and value its life just as much as I do a human’s.
Nolan can't breathe in space, he can hold his breath for 2 weeks and hes assumedly stopping on oxygenated planets to breathe
They literally say this
When did they say this?
@geekgirl616 when did they say this?
@@hellsapoppin9326 Nolan tells Mark this whenever he goes in space to fight Allen in season 1.
They also show Nolan sitting on a cliff inside some planet.
He’s been around for thousands of years. He knows a lot of planets. They can’t breathe in space they can just hold their breathe for a long time.
30:30 trust me, as someone who’s read the comics, the way they’ve set this season up, basically every episode of the finale half of this season will feel like finale’s. The sheer amount of events that happen in this short period in the comics is crazy and will DRASTICALLY change the direction of the show. Strap in
March cant come any sooner
But that’s not how this season felt lmao
@@bgf3640nah this season was miles better than the first imo
@@cm4n63 I’m just not sure I agree. Maybe I’ll enjoy it more when future seasons connect the dots, but as of now, I was unimpressed.
@@bgf3640 if you haven't read the comics and/or don't know what's coming, i can understand that sentiment
suffice to say, as crazy as this season was, this was really just more setup like the first season
Nolan honestly didn't know he could have a child with a Thraxan. That's why he called Mark after the fact.
"Mark's gonna bleed out."
Now that the other Viltrumites are here, y'all are about to see just how much damage one can survive👀
Hair chick definitely shouldn't be dead- I don't even think that would kill a human if they survived the initial trauma. Plenty of people have survived without jaws.
@@NevTheDerangedoh shes definitely alright. Compared to viltrumite standards she basically just got in a cat fight.
@@khanqueeftador2786 Maybe the next time we see her she'll have a dope bionic jaw.
@@NevTheDerangedHer name's Thula, and she is one of the most important Viltrumites, so unless they change events that much she's definitely not dead.
@@haystackbill6187 I vaguely remember her from the comics, but it would not surprise me if they had changed a lot.
I mean, obviously we're all waiting for Conquest to show up ;)
This is world building. They've adapted less than a quarter of the material from the comics. All of this is building to something.
@@JB-wy8fcand you’d be surprised how many impatient Gen Zers don’t understand this
Yeah but to be fair they don’t know what it’s building to. I think it’s fair to say the first half of this season is less connected than the first season was, it’s a different vibe and I don’t think it’s wrong if they don’t like that.
@@gavinallerton3414yeah I have read the entire series twice over, s2 hasn't been on the same level as s1 so far. Every episode of s1 improved upon the comics, that hasn't been the case here.
They aren’t processing that Nolan has lived almost a thousand plus years by the conquering only the strong survive mindset so the fact that he has changed so much and learned empathy within 20 plus years is unbelievably amazing and hard nothing me or you could
Do like he changed himself completely and learned to love and empathize within 1/100 or more of his life like barely a few days in the terms of how long we live
it honestly fucking annoys me they are evaluating him with the view of being a "human". When he's a literal super hero god, who has lived for thousands of years and comes from a culture of power above all. Omniman treats humans way better than we treat insects, yet most reactors still give him too much shit. it's really annoying to me somehow.
A bit of history of how Art and Nolan became friends (from comics) :-
Nolan, after coming from a fight, to Art : "I need the holes on my shoulders patched, and I also need a sleeve."
Art : "What about the hole in your pants your ass is hanging out of?"
Nolan : So that's why they were laughing so hard. I thought they were just extremely happy I saved their lives.
From Issue 123 (or maybe 122. Before that, Nolan just knew Art as the guy who makes superhero clothing).
Keep in mind Nolan was raised to be the way he is for over a thousand years, so it makes sense and is totally understandable to feel bad for him, it’s incredible he even feels remorse and bad.
Exactly. He was told for hundreds of years to be emotionless and that the Viltrumites are better than everyone else. So yeah him feeling remorse is practically like a miracle
it’s so cool watching everyone say the viltrumites are bad for seeing humans as lesser since they live for only
"Mantussy" got me howling for some reason
You’ve now seen 4 Viltrumite males (outside of the two Nolan flashbacks about Viltrum)…ever noticed how they are all sporting a stash?
"is he jelly filled?" I love this channel lol
Man, Robert Kirkman loves making big White guys with brushed back hair into villains you wanna see die in a fire, then making you root for their redemption. Between Negan and Omni man, poor Steven Yeun can’t seem to keep his skull intact.
They should bring in Negan's actor to voice an intense villain at some point
@@lucasbroome1048 If you haven't read the comics and don't want to spoil yourself don't look up the character, but he'd made a great Thragg in my opinion.
@@yetibeardson1168 I read the comic I just don't want to give new readers any ideas
@@yetibeardson1168 I actually saw a twitter "hear me out" post with Jesse Pinkman as David Anders and Walter White as Dinosaurus
@@lucasbroome1048 That would actually be fantastic. Also Josh Brolin as Conquest, which is maybe on the nose because of Thanos...but I think I think that would be both hilarious and just a good voice for him.
Agree with Maple. Whomever thought of that finisher by Nolan needs a raise lol more of that please.
"Alien suicide "i think going in a black hole is just normal suicide lol
I see it as Nolan tried to hide on Thraxa to restart another life. Then the Thraxans found out about "meteors" heading for their planet to kill all 42 billion of them. Then the Viltrumites attack Allen and Nolan can't stop them alone so he sends Nuolzot to look for Mark. He probably didn't expect the Viltrumites to find him
There never were any “meteors”
@@DelusionalNYC My point is the meteors were the Viltrumites
I'll say as someone who knows what's coming, this season is focusing on Mark trying to atone for his dad's misdeeds while trying to prove he's not like him. Remember, the poster for this season is Mark as a reflection of Omni-Man in a pool of blood
“JeLlY fIlLeD?”
Never change
Mantussy I’m dead 🤣 13:19
Viltrumites can heal from damn near anything. As long as their heart and brain are still working, they'll heal, though it may take a while. And they'll get stronger, not unlike a zenkai boost.
They get stronger... but not as much as someone else ;)
@@NevTheDeranged Oh yeah, that person's got zenkai on freaking steroids. Yowza!
So they are sayians
i know this is obvious cause he didn’t finish off thula, but mark still was holding back during the fight. the combo he used is the same one that omni man used against the immortal in episode one but instead of decapitating her he made a fist to knock her back
That's interesting
Jelly filled lmao. Could be a metal exoskeleton with a living tissue covering, like in T2
What is T2?
@@MapleDivine Terminator 2
Mantussy killed me 😂
Nolan is a soldier, and he is struggling against centuries of Viltrumite conditioning. So obv it would be hard to come to terms with his emotions.
Maybe it’s supposed to feel disjointed because Mark’s life is disjointed right now.
Well we're only 4 episodes in lol
@@lucasbroome1048and the season still felt incredibly disjointed by the end of it
@@bgf3640 How so?
@@lucasbroome1048 It was just a little bizarre. All of the plot points are so disconnected and most of them are left unresolved or reach dead ends.
Angstrom Levy, for example. He gets so much screen time just to be an incredibly one dimensional throw-away villain. Also, Mark gets rescued by an inexplicable ex-machine time travel rescue operation, just because?
Eve’s arc seems to be suggesting she’s having a hard time but we don’t know why because she receives so little screen time/character development this season. Meanwhile, the robots receive multiple scenes that ultimately have a fairly anticlimactic conclusion that likely will have no consequence on the future storyline.
Also, omni-man just sort of hops back into the plot, and the writers seem to suggest that he’s one of the good guys now? Because he suddenly feels bad about killing thousands of people?
I think the show has plenty of potential. I’m just not impressed with the direction after s1.
@@bgf3640 In defense of the season, the plot point thing was done the same way in season 1, with it ending with a bunch of unanswered questions too
For Angstrom Levy, he's a foreshadowing thing. He's not one dimensional just from this episode but I can't explain any further than that really. The future Guardians is also more foreshadowing
I believe Eve's thing was so that she would have more of a reason to connect to the cast back in America rather than stay in Africa. To not make her irrelevant or whatever. Also what robots? Do you mean the character, Robot? If so, I promise you even just the way he speaks to other people is foreshadowing. But I won't get into that either
A lot of people seem to love that Omni-Man returned. And it wouldn't make sense for his character to go back to just killing more people and it would be a waste to just kill him off right after his return, especially since he has a second son. Why not have him at least fight the even worse bad guys?
8:51 "why would you made a bug".
So you think from teenager to adult everyone have a baby only when they planned for it 😂😂😂😂
This midpoint finale was AMAZING! I can't wait for part 2 of Season 2.
I love seeing them introduce Oliver Grayson (Mark's little brother) into the show. I really like the realism of Mark's reaction and what he's going through when finding out where and what his father has been up to and the realistic anger he has against him. I also love watching Nolan's internal conflict as you can tell how deeply conflicted Nolan is about growing feelings for the Thraxians and the new family he has and yet betraying his people's cause, really digging this redemption arc for him, honestly it has the potential to be as well written as Zuko's redemption arc from Avatar The Last Airbender. Nolan might actually be my favourite character of the whole show to be honest. The fights in this episode were utter and pure RAW BRUTALITY!
Steven Yeun and J.K. Simmons really knocked it out of the park with delivering those vocal lines
Love also saw Debbie finally start to slowly heal after so much suffering. Also, let's take a minute to appreciate how beautiful Nolan and Debbie's opening sections were despite being millions of miles apart but going through the same thought process and watching them both considering suicide was so surreal to watch
12:10 "The Mantussy" is crazzzzy
Nolan really plugged his merch before being taken away to die
You guys are hilarious,having read the comics I love hearing your guys thoughts and theories lol it’s abt to be insane !!!
Even after Nolan told Mark to stop holding back he was still holding back cause when did a back handed punch on the female viltramite he could have straightened his hand out like a karate chop and offed her head
Not strong enough to do that even to a weak viltrumite *yet*
I think multiple situations happening at once is what makes it interesting and really gets me excited for the future because there will be a lot of anticipated story. Lots of good build up. Yall just gotta think about it without being narrow minded lol.
It's shocking how much this episode recontextualize Nolan as character and the ending of season 1. That fight alone, Nolan was TAKING IT EASY, if he can crush a fully grown vultrimite that's doesn't hold back, Mark should've been obliterated in the first hit if Nolan was actually trying to kill him.
When you break it down Nolan was with Debie for 1 percent of his life at best
Finally, the wait for ep 4 was torture.
Loved your reaction to the midseason finale of Invincible Maple and Arianna.😃
i love how the more superheroes' costumes you see, and the more of Nolan's costumes you see, the clearer it becomes that capes aren't really a thing and he's just a dork.
crying laughing at "mantussy"
Haha when thula ate his elbow "whoever thought of that,that's crazy" I be thinking like that too when I watch shows 😂😂
Maple took a big sip lmao
This ep was insane! I did not expect this at all. When I was watching it, I was just like wtfff the whole time and I had to come here and see what other people thought and reacted to it lol
🤣🤣ay Maple out of pocket for "mantussy" lol 12:10
It’s all going somewhere you just gotta trust it. Plus this is only the halfway point of the season.
He had been a planet conquering totalitarian monster, but a few decades on Earth with Debbie and Mark changed him. When he realised he had nearly killed his own son and called his own partner a pet . He wandered the galaxy and If he hadn’t seen that ship , he would have committed suicide by Black Hole. A death that defies any definition by any means because it is unimaginable. I don’t know what Nolan deserves, but I can appreciate wanting to leave something better by his final act.
The baby's name is Oliver Nolan.
Nolan's reaction in this episode to everything he's done is fascinating to me. Imagine being a sociopath, raised a sociopath, on a planet of all sociopaths & then learning to feel empathy.
This mid season break had me on edge if they did it at episode 8 id understand. If i remember correctly they did it so that the people watching can digest whats happened. That means the next parts of the season bout to be wild
Could Donald have been spliced with Viltrumite DNA?
“Guts man” is incredible 😂😂😂
"so why would you make a bug baby?"
BUGBABBY!
7:03
Arguably the biggest mystery of the episode: how _do_ eyeglasses survive literal ground zero of an explosion powerful enough to disintergrate a house with just cracked lenses and a bent frame?
24:15
Well, given how quickly we've seen Mark recover from the _numerous_ beatings he's taken, it's safe to assume that Viltrumites have damn good healing factors.
Also, remember that Mark's newly-discovered baby brother is nearby and is maturing quickly. He'll probably be able to communicate and help Mark out before long.
28:00
If y'all think Allen's dead, you _really_ haven't consumed enough comic-related media, lol. I barely know more about Allen than what I've watched in the show, and I figured right after his story ended that he's coming back somewhere down the line, and maybe even sooner than later.
I don't really want to be specific at all about what was said but one of y'all actually made a really accurate prediction for what omni man might do in the future!!!
You guys like the mystery story telling device. It was a more linear story in season 1.
“Down the highway” was wild lmaooo
I mean look at it from Nolan's point of view if you have empathy. He is struggling with his whole worldview. "How is this better?"
1st) Viltrumites are essentially as close to demigods in their universe. They live for THOUSANDS OF YEARS, have amazing physical physics defying abilities and superior tech. They then decide to explore space and find out that every single species they come across is short lived, weak and essentially living in the middle ages compared to the Viltrumites. Of course you would develope a superiority complex of epic proportions. But wait...
2nd) The culture he was born, indoctrinated and raised in is a culture that very recently decided to kill off all the weak of there society. Weak in all metrics, meaning if you had empathy or compassion for anything lesser than a Viltrumite you needed to go. So Nolan has never cared about anything but his mission he belived so deeply in because why would he not? This man was having a breakdown experiencing emotions he never knew he had. Because..
3rd) Nolan has lived for thousands of years by this point. I would probably guess like 2-4k but if it is any higher it proves the point even more. He was only on Earth for 20 years. 20 years compared to 2 thousands is quite small. Which is why I think most people take offensewhen he called Debbie a pet. I bet most see the pet comment as a dominant/submissive thing but I truly believe he meant it in terms of lifespans. There are people that truly love their pets like they are blood relatives but however when that pet dies, they will get another so they can have something to love and keep them company. They still love their pets with all their being.
Love and emotions are new to Nolan. Debbie really got through to him on an emotional level, and it has only been 20 years, which is like a 3 day weekend compared to us.
Just like the Zentraedi, cloned and bred for nothing but war for millennia.... but once Minmei starts singing, it's all over ;)
Mid season breaks are one of the most frustrating things about any kind of TV series. I hated it when The Walking Dead did it and I still hate it now.
Interesting theory, robot eyes. So you're thinking all this time and he never once saw himself in the mirror without his glasses? He's also not going to bleed out. We have seen multiple times it will take a lot more than that.
Viltrumites dont give a damn if he bleeds out he was weak anyway.
“Ooo big Arthur fist” 😭😭😭
Show is coming back in January according to leaks
The reason mark is able to beat other viltrumites is due to the fact that the viltrumites have evolved to the point that they have no predators they will not fear death and will not produce adrenaline mark can
i don't know the comics, so i probably just embarrass myself with this presumption but after watching my like fifth reaction i picked up for the first time how Nolan gave Mark the name Invincible, was seemingly never really concerned about him surviving and his book being named the man with the invincible gun. Maybe Mark really is invincible and was bread as a weapon.
Lol this is like a wrong assumption speed run
Is Donald one of Cecil’s Viltramite experiments?
24:15 If he dies from JUST some loss of blood, was Mark really a Viltramite???
Mark can has a healing factor
All Vitrumites have a healing factor
omniman was about to go into the blackhole himself but he saved the bug guys what a turn goes from lifes over to having a purpose again
Man, they dialed the bug lady's design back. A lot.
Lol I've read parts of the comic, I know what you mean.
About that "feeling bad" thing...you probably can feel bad for him! In the history of viltrum he is the ONLY one EVER to abandon post. Earth isn't even his first post. Mark showing him humanity was what caused him to not only leave his post but also become the highest target of the viltrum empire.
Nolan is the only viltrumite to show mercy or shame EVER
Also he's been told for probably hundreds of years that any other species only exists to be conquered. People do crazy shit after only a month of brainwashing, this guy was told this stuff for several of our lifetimes.
voice of General Kregg- Same as Yakone Clancy Brown
that Grey’s Anatomy reference was hilarious and Arriana is not wrong
Gonna play devils advocate here and say that we should keep in mind that Nolan grew up on a planet where murdering the weak and colonialism were encouraged. Just keep this in mind when you guys watch.
20:03 it’s kinda silly how the show chooses what can kill a viltrimite. It’s basically whenever it’s convenient
I didn't see any viltrumite die in this episode
@@justintuisamoa4191 I could be wrong but they gave the impression the black viltrimite was the only one who survived. Guess we’ll find out
@@bigpictureguys8415 No you can see they carry all of them back
@@excalibur2772 ahh. Good catch.
You sure it’s not their just bodies tho?
omni man can hold his breath for weeks
6:48 , Dangit Bobby
22:04 maybe 😮😂. Great prediction
I don't think nolan is a bad person, he's clearly fighting his basic nature and almost committed suicide because of it, he was raised that way and it was all he knew, the same way most humans will see a bug on the ground and step on it, that's how he was taught to view humanity
So if Thraxans only live to 1 Earth year? How old is Andressa? Did Nolan get it on with a 4 month old?
The girl on the rights reactions are interesting for her first time watching
Well technically speaking, with relativity, it could have been a longer period of time for Nolan than it was on Earth. Idk if they ignore that science in this universe or not, but it's at least possible.
Idk if this makes scientific sense but their atoms make subatomic wormholes that make them breach the speed of light. So maybe that's an explanation for why he got there without aging much perhaps
Minor difference from the comics that I actually sorta hate--
When Mark wakes up after this fight, he finds that he's being treated by the Viltrumites. There's a number of reasons for this, but one that isn't going to spoil future events is that (I think) there was some implication of a strange code of honor Viltrumites have. Mark was seen as worthy of his heritage, so he was also seen as worthy of receiving Viltrumite medical aid lmao
I like this more tho he's worthy but he actually put up a fight and wasn't completely out They knew he would heal just fine
You girls _definitely_ aren't ready for the next episode if you haven't seen it yet. 😅
I hate when my knives get bent on Jelly filled donuts
The next 4 episodes of season 2 should be coming in jan or feb.
It's adapting the comics very well, it is building to stuff. Yes, the baby is alive, they hid deeper in the cave.
I think the older ones can hold their breath for mouths I’m not 100% sure though 😅
Omniman is joining Mortal combat he needs a Finisher
Animators: Hold my beer
Yeah it’s been a minute where have you two been ?!? Lol
I absolutely loved this episode it’s real crazy, one thing I do wanna say.. the guts, the head squish and the mouth kills are absolutely nothing compared to what happens in this show, viltrumites get seriously fuuucked up in this series…
26:17 from that level of damage, I don’t believe bleed out… one of the first misconceptions a lot of ppl have when looking into the story, is that the graphic, disembowelment-level damage should be fatal, which is true, unless your a species or have powers on par with a Viltumite. BUT yes, even a Viltumite can died and bleed out from similar damage, just must be severe enough…I believe Mark’s wounds are not…
I don't believe a viltrumite can bleed out anyways thragg didn't bleed out when he fought battle beast and he was cut to hell and back
voice of Lucan same as Samurai Jack.
This is the only CZcams partnerships that works…Maple & Arianna !!
Hahaha
Everything you guess/theorized from 9:25-9:40 about Omni-man and if he cares or if it’s a trap…….is 100% incorrect. Not even close to being right.
20:00 you should react to Mortal Kombat Fatalities if you think that’s insane
Someone needs dental surgery! That shocked me too!
I expect the new season to resume after the Super Bowl. It’d be great if they chose January
January 4th
search up omni man without his mustache, he’s literally a buffed up mark😂
Omniman gets way too much hate. People simply not understand the situation he's in, and how good that he actually is.