The Economic Explanation of Why Modern Dating is Failing

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024

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  • @WheatWaffles
    @WheatWaffles  Před 2 lety +735

    I’d highly recommend watching this video in full, I think this is possibly the best video I’ve put out to date.
    But if you’re only going to watch part of it I’d strongly advise to watch between 9:37 and 12:00.
    In my opinion this is the most important point I’ve made on this channel with regard to why most men struggle to get a relationship.
    Thanks for watching guys 👍

    • @chadalpha
      @chadalpha Před 2 lety +10

      Keep up the good work and thank you for inspiring me to create this channel, and thank you for teaching me what I should have known all along from the beginning.

    • @TwistedLullabies
      @TwistedLullabies Před 2 lety +4

      That implies the existence of a worst video

    • @chuchaqui1000
      @chuchaqui1000 Před 2 lety +1

      @@izeejams4914 screw that soyboy captain-save-a-304

    • @douglasmaclaine-cross9976
      @douglasmaclaine-cross9976 Před 2 lety +5

      Have you looked into "wealth inequality". it's sharper than income inequality.

    • @smilodon92
      @smilodon92 Před 2 lety +7

      @@TwistedLullabies Less good, you can say. If he has so called "worst video", people would've not watched it or gave bad ratings.
      Every person is improving, that goes to you, me, and WW.

  • @georgeedward1226
    @georgeedward1226 Před 2 lety +4661

    Dating was designed for people to find suitable marriage partners. Now that marriage is an utter joke that often ends in a bitter divorce, it's logical that dating will collapse with it into the same pile of rubble.

    • @impudentdomain
      @impudentdomain Před 2 lety +381

      That would be the economic factor he did not mention, Externalities. The horrible divorce and family court laws have allowed for the total breakdown of traditional marriage.

    • @tyke2829
      @tyke2829 Před 2 lety +269

      @@impudentdomain I watched a video where a woman, who was (and still is) married, had to have welfare assistance for the family at a certain point. Understandable, it happens. The welfare office continually ENCOURAGED her to divorce her husband with the incentive of receiving more money.

    • @silverwings8486
      @silverwings8486 Před 2 lety +56

      + Hook up & leave no room for it since any fine guy even if bad looking one may hire prostitute for his chill lifestyle but with hookup being normalised the boundary between them has disappeared

    • @raymckigney2118
      @raymckigney2118 Před 2 lety +92

      Exactly right. I often find myself explaining this point to those wondering why I’m single. Why head down a path towards somewhere I need to avoid?

    • @PastTime777
      @PastTime777 Před 2 lety +102

      Besides everything mentioned in this video, there is no incentive for a man to sign a contract with the state they live in when the man gets nothing out of it.

  • @LeeEverett1
    @LeeEverett1 Před 2 lety +2814

    As a guy who's considered "average" (5'10, 60-70K, blue collar work) it's absolutely brutal. Even average women are chasing the Chads and tall top earning guys. Women don't waste time, they straight ask you up front how much you earn, job title, height etc and will disqualify you immediately if it doesn't meet their standards. They have no interest in seeing if you have any actual chemistry anymore, that's been my experience anyway.

    • @bossgd100
      @bossgd100 Před 2 lety +258

      brutal

    • @theinco8118
      @theinco8118 Před 2 lety +626

      @OUTCLASSER Support Team cope

    • @fredwalter519
      @fredwalter519 Před 2 lety +698

      @OUTCLASSER Support Team Men's list of requirements is a lot smaller then women's list of requirements. Most of men's requirements are under a woman's control. Most of women's requirements are not under a man's control. Mpst women can become fit, feminine and friendly if they so choose. Most men cannot easily change their height or their looks. The only thing under men's control is their income.

    • @stephenh1778
      @stephenh1778 Před 2 lety +249

      Yeah. Online dating and ease of travel has ruined this. It used to be that you were only competing with guys in your local community. Now, you're competing with every guy in a 50 mile radius. If you're near a city, that's possibly millions of guys.

    • @SaltoDaKid
      @SaltoDaKid Před 2 lety +360

      @OUTCLASSER Support Team Okay but unemployed women can be accepted, she can easily get a man who can provide. Where unemployed men is a hobo. Not the same

  • @youriwatson
    @youriwatson Před rokem +643

    As an economics student, it’s fun to see these concepts being applied to the dating market. Very eye-opening!

    • @brianjoelson4888
      @brianjoelson4888 Před rokem +10

      haha, Also an Economic Major was hella Surprised when he threw out a game tree given I'm in Game Theory.

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie Před rokem

      The manosphere has been talking about this in economic sense for more than a decade, and they have gotten some agreements like Robin Hanson who have written on that topic (his incel writings, and there are some regular economists who analyze like marriage rates and sex ratios in countries, i.e. Austria after WWII).

    • @Jose04537
      @Jose04537 Před rokem +4

      Dating for women is like shopping, dating for men it's like a job interview. Tell me which one is more enjoyable?

    • @theodorelopez8971
      @theodorelopez8971 Před rokem

      Been a long time since I was in school but I don't really agree with his presentation of theory. I don't think that inequality in terms of attractiveness creates a market failure. And I don't think The Tragedy of the Commons is a good analog to a dating market. But maybe I'm wrong.

  • @LostSoulsmusic22
    @LostSoulsmusic22 Před rokem +96

    Yeah I have no plan to date anyone again.
    I'm 30 Y/O, college education, doing very well financially, military veteran, work out often, and take care of my body and mind. I am not unattractive by any stretch. Yet I get no romantic options.
    Men like myself are not willing to become a pick up artist and message 400 women to get 7 responses, and 1 date. For us that aren't sex addicts or desperate weirdos there is no realistic benefit to playing that game anymore. Best of luck to everyone else though!

    • @bhfanaticosi
      @bhfanaticosi Před 11 měsíci +3

      Totally agree I'm in the same boat as you, and I just cannot be bothered going through all that, I get matches etc but most of the time I cbf

    • @3AM_beats_
      @3AM_beats_ Před 10 měsíci +8

      1) i am not ugly
      2) hit the Gym and i have very good body with big frame
      3) i dress well
      4) i am college educated
      5) i am going to have a stable.job within months
      6)i have a car
      7)i am very smart
      But i don't get matches and i don't get noticed in real Life....and when i date girls i get ghosted for no reason at all

    • @IndependentPrettyGirlis
      @IndependentPrettyGirlis Před 9 měsíci

      Yikes 😬 people in the military or who were in the military and nuts, that's probably why you're siny

    • @alexforget
      @alexforget Před 26 dny

      Go to Catholic mass, you will skip all the nonsense of "dating" and get your mind in order as a bonus.

  • @copemaxxing4306
    @copemaxxing4306 Před 2 lety +1151

    Imagine creating a system so efficient that it makes 90% of male population uninteresting.

    • @igorortega6494
      @igorortega6494 Před 2 lety +117

      and imagine that this 90% stay put suffering in that market... shocking

    • @Phoenix-ii8ff
      @Phoenix-ii8ff Před 2 lety

      technically speaking, this system is very good because after 100 years, the unattractive won't have the chance to reproduce so more and more percents of the population will be attractive and guess what, those attractive people will still be rejected and only the most attractive will reproduce, we are living in a world where everyone is attractive but only the most attractive are reproducing.

    • @deagor4578
      @deagor4578 Před 2 lety +77

      The jews are smart.

    • @thereaction18
      @thereaction18 Před 2 lety +100

      To be fair, 99% were already uninteresting. And if it weren't for sex, probably 100% of women.

    • @paulfri1569
      @paulfri1569 Před 2 lety +1

      @@deagor4578 So they created Feminism to scoop up All those lonely college educated women 😈

  • @CtrlOptDel
    @CtrlOptDel Před 2 lety +1944

    “All men are jerks.”
    “Does that mean I’m a jerk?”
    “No, you’re one of the good ones.”
    Translation: “You don’t count as a man.”

    • @Krelian4400
      @Krelian4400 Před 2 lety +255

      Brutal translation of womanese. When woman talk about "men," they mean Chadlite and up.

    • @enelgee
      @enelgee Před 2 lety +124

      And they still go after the jerks.

    • @Subhumanoid_
      @Subhumanoid_ Před 2 lety +132

      @@Krelian4400 _"Why can't I find a nice guy like you?"_

    • @mmarkusgaming
      @mmarkusgaming Před 2 lety +168

      @@Subhumanoid_ Translation: "I like your personality, but you are ugly/short/poor/... & actually I don't really want to be treated nicely because after a very short time it despises me".

    • @Arcaged
      @Arcaged Před 2 lety +15

      I mean, if the only thing you want from a friend is sex, you kinda are a jerk.

  • @JKRuc
    @JKRuc Před rokem +671

    I'm 32yrs old, average looking black guy, 5'9,180lbs, in good shape and its brutally hard for me in the dating world. I've never had the opportunity to take advantage of "hookup culture ", I've witnessed it, but never participated in it, plus I don't think I want to because me personally I need the emotional connection apart from physical sexual attraction. But dating, I've tried dating apps, absolutely no luck. I don't think I was made for the whole dating thing, plus I'm an introvert infj so its a very difficult lonely life for me unfortunately 😓.

    • @chetaioo
      @chetaioo Před rokem +147

      You seem like a decent man my dude. Trust me, it's better to be single than with the wrong woman. And just because you're single, it doesn't mean that your life is over and has no purpose.

    • @Stylenwavin
      @Stylenwavin Před rokem +82

      My exact same situation. I'm black, 6'1 average, good looking but taking advantage of women never interested me. Introvert here but people expect us to be the Chad of Chad's. We are normal people too that want love 💯💔

    • @danielsnook5029
      @danielsnook5029 Před rokem +36

      Become a Passport Bros. See you in Thailand!!😆

    • @pizzik_252
      @pizzik_252 Před rokem +39

      @@danielsnook5029 Beware of the femboys there 😂

    • @pizzik_252
      @pizzik_252 Před rokem

      @@danielsnook5029 jk

  • @Gregoronomium
    @Gregoronomium Před 2 lety +358

    I think online dating's 2 biggest problems are:
    1. Low commitment: On a computer screen you are just a number, people do not really care about numbers.
    2. Time consuming: Nobody trusts a person online, so you have to spend 3 times as much time to build trust compared with offline
    I recommend you my solution if you live in a dorm. Bake chocolate cookies, sit down in the living room and just talk with people.
    Even if you do not find anyone, you will have friends/chocolate cookies or both :D

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak Před rokem +4

      Actually online dating is the least time consuming way to date other people. You just don't know it because you're not a Chad. And what you describe about chocolate cookies it's something that is good for a nursing home when you're 80 not when you're 20 and you have testosterone pumping in your veins. Hope I didn't sound harsh or something... Oh by the way "low commitment" part also depends on looks.

    • @Kizamo
      @Kizamo Před rokem +35

      The cookie thing is a good idea. Idk what the comment above me is on about, but I’m in college rn and I assure anyone reading that college kids will always flock towards free food.

    • @chai_lattes
      @chai_lattes Před rokem +17

      Wholesome solution

    • @ethanplayzz1870
      @ethanplayzz1870 Před rokem +10

      ACTUAL GOOD ADVICE ONLINE WTF

    • @LostSoulsmusic22
      @LostSoulsmusic22 Před rokem +6

      Yeah only guys who aren't sex addicts just are not willing to message 400 girls and get 7 conversations that may end in 1 date. And girls can't message the 400 guys hitting them up to sift through and find the 7 that may be a great match for them.

  • @CybrZone
    @CybrZone Před 2 lety +1737

    A society with alot of lonely, bitter and angry men is a recipe for disaster.

    • @posest
      @posest Před 2 lety +376

      This I'm afraid is one of the most overlooked dilemmas in society. The results to come will be tragic.

    • @Shoegazebasedgenre0.
      @Shoegazebasedgenre0. Před 2 lety

      yaay race war now!

    • @mikeprice8307
      @mikeprice8307 Před 2 lety +15

      🤣 😭

    • @nicolaslatorre810
      @nicolaslatorre810 Před 2 lety +66

      Well sometimes one needs to put some effort too. There's 8 billion people In this planet.

    • @fishslappr
      @fishslappr Před 2 lety +56

      We live in a society

  • @Endymion766
    @Endymion766 Před 2 lety +604

    as a "below average" guy, my experience with online dating was meaningless. I never got a response from the hundreds of messages I sent out. I gave up on dating.

    • @tyke2829
      @tyke2829 Před 2 lety +110

      Stay off online dating, it never works. Get out there, you’ll have a better chance finding someone at the bar, gym, work, a hobby.

    • @Endymion766
      @Endymion766 Před 2 lety +215

      @@tyke2829 no, offline dating was no better. I dont try to date anymore. I've accepted aloneness and moved on. Nothing is dragging me back to that disappointment hell.

    • @domdrty
      @domdrty Před 2 lety +28

      @@Endymion766 do what you can to improve your looks (working out, lose weight, etc). Also look at yourself to see what personality qualities that might be hurting you.

    • @Endymion766
      @Endymion766 Před 2 lety

      @@domdrty already tried that, didnt work, no more rat race, no more plantation, no more slavery. I'm done.

    • @domdrty
      @domdrty Před 2 lety +24

      @Jason Walter I don't quite buy the height thing unless the guy is 5'6" or less. I am an average guy and 5'8". In general I have never really had an issue with rejection due to height.
      I did noticed when my income increased after college women tend to notice me more(im far from rich). Say what you will about it, but I would definitely use that to my advantage. We are no different than any other species. Females want the strongest, best looking, and or most successful. If they can get all three then they will, but most women can not.
      I have put very attractive women on the spot. Calling them out about their financial irresponsibility, and how I wasn't looking to take care of them. Most became very quite in that conversation.

  • @keonhobgood1551
    @keonhobgood1551 Před rokem +71

    Being one of the good looking guys is a gift and a curse. If you’re a bad person it’s a gift if you have any morals it’s a curse. The amount of women in relationships that throw themselves at me is crazy some even have husbands! They will literally tell me anything ask me to sleep with them etc it’s nuts. Makes me have a hard time trusting any woman or settling down and taking them serious. The last women I was talking too told me she wasn’t faithful and with the way I looked she assumed I was the same as her it’s a madhouse in the dating world right now.

    • @zockercam8122
      @zockercam8122 Před rokem +4

      At least you have the opportunity to meet someone nice.
      Just go on dates and see if it works out. If it doesn't just tell her and go on another date.
      Most guys just don't get to the date-stage. Immagine how hard it is to choose then

    • @keonhobgood1551
      @keonhobgood1551 Před rokem +10

      This is true but even so the quality of woman is bad. guys without the opportunity aren’t missing much, it’s like digging through a garbage barrel almost not even worth it. I’m content with the way I am right now so that makes a big difference. Why would I bring a woman into my life that’s just gonna complicate things? having kids would be nice but the risk are higher than the reward with modern women.

    • @Razor-gx2dq
      @Razor-gx2dq Před rokem +4

      But you have a chance, most of us don't

    • @MrDemonsushiGuy
      @MrDemonsushiGuy Před rokem +5

      At least you have options. You're one of the lucky ones. That's not nearly as problematic as being on the unfavorable side

    • @joshuaB.Nicholas
      @joshuaB.Nicholas Před rokem +2

      He’s speaking facts I have this problem the petty girls dating gangsters,or white boys.If I messed up there’s another guy around the corner waiting his turn.

  • @zabylurt
    @zabylurt Před rokem +381

    I remember when internet dating was seen as weird and creepy, boy have times changed..

    • @thebestSteven
      @thebestSteven Před rokem +48

      "It's not internet dating. It's an app." -girls (probably)

    • @lalakuma9
      @lalakuma9 Před rokem +24

      And yet it often is still weird and creepy

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W Před rokem +9

      I don't think there's anything wrong with it so long as you're being smart and behaving in an ethical manner, but tbh, we were probably in a somewhat better place in society when meeting and dating in person was still treated like the normal thing to do.

    • @WokeAFMillennial
      @WokeAFMillennial Před rokem

      That's how I met your mother.

    • @shadowninja6689
      @shadowninja6689 Před rokem +10

      I remember growing up in an era when they told us not to meet up with people in real life that we met online.

  • @yolenda_loves_to_sing
    @yolenda_loves_to_sing Před 2 lety +719

    About your second point, I have a story to tell:
    My ex-roommate was seeing a Chad. He was our landlord's son. The Chad straight up told her he was not serious, and was not looking to start a relationship with her. He actually also told her that he already has a long-term girlfriend, and wasn't planning to break up with her.
    But she still slept with him once or twice a week. They were sex partners for years at least. Until I moved out, and didn't catch up with her anymore.
    I was so shocked that he was that upfront, and I was even more shocked that she was STILL okay with it! I know I wouldn't. I guess Chads don't even have to lie, and would still get what they want.

    • @karlhans6678
      @karlhans6678 Před 2 lety +342

      Women make rules for normies but they break rules for chads.

    • @robertnewett5932
      @robertnewett5932 Před 2 lety +263

      This is evolutionary biology. Women would rather share an Alpha than be with an average man. Our species evolved this way.

    • @copemaxxing4306
      @copemaxxing4306 Před 2 lety +113

      You talk like she was being deceived lol.
      Attraction works like this, two people sharing moments together out of pure joy and no coercion involved.
      Women love to have fun with Chad it doesnt matter if he is cheating or doesnt want to commit, the dopamine hits are always high.

    • @thefaramith8876
      @thefaramith8876 Před 2 lety +28

      @@copemaxxing4306 she doesnt talk like her friend was being deceived?

    • @maryjack3830
      @maryjack3830 Před 2 lety +80

      @@karlhans6678 men and women both treat attractive people better than average and bellow average

  • @chadalpha
    @chadalpha Před 2 lety +637

    Here's the secret: be tall, have a perfect face and perfect physique. Bonus points if you have money.

    • @channelforadifferentrecome6635
      @channelforadifferentrecome6635 Před 2 lety +27

      @Louis Tea Enjoyer Yes it's hugely important to being able to maintain a relationship.
      It's just that the emotional development, skills and experience that are required for a healthy long term relationship comes from previous relationships.
      So i guess my point is that you don't just loose by having it harder getting a date or a girlfriend, all the steps after are harder. Not to mention the wealth of data that shows how important it is to have and maintain looks in a relationship. It's no wonder that a qliueche is "You got to work on staying attractive to your partner".

    • @TwistedLullabies
      @TwistedLullabies Před 2 lety +35

      Looks will fade, so don't plan on using that as a long term strategy

    • @NiceOCGuy1981
      @NiceOCGuy1981 Před 2 lety +13

      @@TwistedLullabies yup, that's why they move on. It's as simple as that.

    • @NiceOCGuy1981
      @NiceOCGuy1981 Před 2 lety +21

      @Louis Tea Enjoyer true, but if you're a Chad, you should just pump them as long as you can, them dump to the next ones.

    • @GreyRock100
      @GreyRock100 Před 2 lety +1

      Yup

  • @justmythought7658
    @justmythought7658 Před 2 lety +277

    This is not a new problem. As a far below average man, I had these problems decades ago. Eventually I realized that my chances were zero and I was just embarrassing myself by trying to chase women, and I gave it up.
    It's a very lonely life, but on the other hand, not getting married is the surest way to avoid divorce, and I don't have to pay for women or children, and so have been able to build a modest life, with no debt, even something on the side, and now don't have to slave all day to earn money for others.
    When talking to colleagues, of course, it is sad when they tell about the development of their children and fun with the family, and on certain holidays the loneliness hurts a lot. On the other hand, married men can not explain where I get all the time to watch movies, read books, play video games and other hobbies.

    • @deltaxcd
      @deltaxcd Před 2 lety +45

      Who the hell gets that lucky to have fun with family and children? normal men are working their asses off and dying on the job trying to pay all family expenses and if they come home they don't have energy for anything but just sleeping or maybe some TV.

    • @dirtbikekid2851
      @dirtbikekid2851 Před rokem +14

      @@deltaxcd exactly it’s a two way problem for me. Even if I find a reliable woman to build a life with I don’t make enough to truly enjoy it anyway. I’d have to work 50-60 hours a weeks to live a modest life. It’s a big mess.

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 Před rokem +6

      @@dirtbikekid2851 Did you ever wonder why immigrant men typically own some crappy little business and work at least 72 hours per week, if not over 100 hours, while their old lady stays home with the kids and does all of the shopping? I was blissfully ignorant of that entire world until I quit teaching to become a barber and ended up working in a Greek barber shop sixty hours per week. When I was a school teacher I used to just fake everything and only worked 35 hours per week. At least I was smart enough to know better than to take teaching seriously. At least two-thirds of the kids were too stupid even for high school so I used to consider the really hard working teachers as suckers. At least when you put that many hours in in barbering you go home with a fat wad in your wallet.

    • @thesurvivorssanctuary6561
      @thesurvivorssanctuary6561 Před rokem

      Beautiful comment from a true sigma, 👨‍🍳💋
      That's a good way to be, and I'd add that you should either massively lower your standards for physical beauty; or just completely drop the expectation that you will have a wife(especially for those holidays demanding you think about family or love).

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 Před rokem +1

      @@thesurvivorssanctuary6561 There’s definitely been an epidemic of narcissism. When I’m out in public I’m impressed by how homely most people are, how homely most couples are, and how if those people had been unrealistically fussy few of them would ever have gotten married. But to me it never made any difference; I never bought it that you could trust women enough to get married in the first place so I never really wanted to marry.

  • @taylors5069
    @taylors5069 Před 2 lety +347

    This is almost creating a new generation of bitterness between both genders and it shows in the comments. Its concerning. Not all women or men are narcissistic and selfish. Take a break from dating apps and join groups meet people! Wish yall luck out there

    • @savagemode6983
      @savagemode6983 Před 2 lety +33

      And in those group meetups will be people on their phone on dating apps. Stop being silly.

    • @swastikgrover3414
      @swastikgrover3414 Před rokem +4

      No, it’s called having a social circle. I’m countries without dating apps, people dating through social connection and they don’t have the same issues

    • @taylors5069
      @taylors5069 Před rokem

      @@savagemode6983 if thats the case find other people who will respect your time? 🤷‍♀️ I personally havent seen that happen before but I cant speak on all situations it happens with people from dating apps to where they just use their phones constantly

    • @NoctLightCloud
      @NoctLightCloud Před rokem

      ​@@savagemode6983 then change the friend group if they find their insta feed more interesting atm than being with you

    • @soacker25
      @soacker25 Před rokem +1

      Its called "femuhnism"

  • @robertfindley921
    @robertfindley921 Před 2 lety +647

    If you've ever seen a Chad up close (roommate, neighbor, etc) it's shocking. Women just line up, tolerate anything, accept anything and forgive anything. Just for a piece of his beauty. I've seen them crying hysterically outside his door, getting into physical fights, buying him presents to "make up" after she catches him cheating,.... He loses all respect for them, but nothing changes.

    • @bigbanknewyork3655
      @bigbanknewyork3655 Před 2 lety +117

      Correct. It's astonishing to the novice normie who has zero access. My son is a Chad and I see it all from the 17-20 age perspective. They are okay to share 100%.

    • @Shoegazebasedgenre0.
      @Shoegazebasedgenre0. Před 2 lety

      n**gas be like:put on a better frame and do a better game bro!

    • @malakbrood667
      @malakbrood667 Před 2 lety +145

      Women make a hundred rules for men and break them for Chad.

    • @Pacard-ux3yr
      @Pacard-ux3yr Před 2 lety +94

      Growing up with a Chad brother I’ve seen it all first hand. The difference in treatment from anyone, anywhere. Especially girls asking me out about him. The tears they shed for him fills lots ob bath tubs.

    • @SonyCamry
      @SonyCamry Před 2 lety +78

      Does anyone else ever watch the news and see stories of men who abused, even murdered or did something horrible to their wife or former partner and they they awlays seem to have a new women by their side at the court hearing? these men always look like chads as well.

  • @handbanana5555
    @handbanana5555 Před rokem +94

    simple idea: a dating app but when you swipe no on someone click a quick prompt to explain why. certain prompts keeps profiles in rotation more than others would. it would benefit people who put in effort and want to try and push undesirable people to the back of the stack. prompts such as "this person doesnt have similar interests not compatatible for me" or "distance or something is too far" and "profile is missing details/effort" or "person doesnt look safe to be around/not attracted"

    • @Kizamo
      @Kizamo Před rokem +33

      I think 99% of the time the reason will be “I don’t find them physically attractive”

    • @handbanana5555
      @handbanana5555 Před rokem +5

      @@Kizamo yeah women would actually have to put effort in to find a man that will put effort into them, god forbid. but yeah whatever one is easiest to click would get that

    • @typorad
      @typorad Před rokem

      ​@@Kizamo Kinda agree, but also if their bio is toxic, they're an absolute alcoholic, their political views are cringe and center focus of their personality.

    • @goopybonez
      @goopybonez Před rokem +9

      YES! The amount of “420 friendly” And “I don’t know what to put here lol”s I have to swipe left on..

    • @j3c818
      @j3c818 Před rokem

      Imagine needing tinder

  • @yoshimeier3060
    @yoshimeier3060 Před rokem +129

    Man Im lucky I didnt dabble in this dating pool and instead found my partners in actual social situations. Slowly getting to know each other and then deciding to be a couple.
    Thats no guarantee for working out long-term but its way more honest, direct and rewarding I feel.

  • @impudentdomain
    @impudentdomain Před 2 lety +242

    As someone trained in economics I appreciate what you are doing here. I am not sure if I buy all of your assumptions but you present it in an easy to understand format.

    • @rogerm3708
      @rogerm3708 Před 2 lety +15

      It's only assumptions, if his sources don't check out. Did you investigate his sources and find his statements to not be true?

    • @1MinuteFlipDoc
      @1MinuteFlipDoc Před 2 lety +2

      economics, psychology, women's studies - all the same type of 'science'! hahahah

    •  Před 2 lety +1

      @@1MinuteFlipDoc, while I'm always up for a nice round of bash-any-science-that-isn't-physics, I'd hate to contribute to an idea of people of the different branches having anything but respect for the other branches too. Women's studies is the art of pandering to women and remove all accountability, though, and I would not call _that_ a branch of science. At best it's an evening course on how not to fight with your wife when on a caravan vacation. ;-)

    • @johnjones8850
      @johnjones8850 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, I study econ as a hobby. I questioned a couple of assumptions too. I really liked this video too.

  • @intellectualquasar4580
    @intellectualquasar4580 Před 2 lety +340

    The “one big problem” you mentioned has a name in philosophy. It’s called the prisoners dilemma. Prisoners dilemma: the solution is for everyone to work together long term. However, the caveat is that the perceived short term benefit of “cheating” or backstabbing is greater until long term effects happen as a result.

    • @pthebeast2
      @pthebeast2 Před 2 lety +3

      Nice! Well stated.

    • @swordierre9341
      @swordierre9341 Před 2 lety +18

      Tragedy of the commons, he explained it

    • @intellectualquasar4580
      @intellectualquasar4580 Před 2 lety +10

      @@swordierre9341 yes but you have to have the context that matters or the analogy doesn’t make sense. The reason why it’s bad to pick the short term outcome is because eventually everyone suffers in the long term. Even those who can choose the short term benefit.

    • @123christianac
      @123christianac Před 2 lety +12

      I don't quite think it applies here. In the Prisoner's Dilemma, the option of being selfish completely pays off if the other party is selfless. Also, both parties being silent is only a better solution for the collective... not the individual. In his scenario, the selfish person will ultimately suffer for their selfishness regardless of if the other party is selfish as well. The only change would be how fast their resources deplete. In addition, both parties being selfless is beneficial to both the collective and individual. Everyone gets to keep access to water indefinitely.

    • @acdude5266
      @acdude5266 Před 2 lety +5

      The most basic form of the Prisoner's Dilemma is the single stage, two-player game. It's solution is for players to defect irrespective of the opponent's strategy. This is the solution based on the same mutually dominant strategies. The solution is non-pareto optimal, there exists a payoff on which both players would do better, i.e., both would cooperate.
      In the iterated version of Prisoner's Dilemma, for finite numbers of stages, the solution is (DD...D, DD...D).
      When there are either infinite numbers of stages or indeterminant numbers of stages,. the issues are more complicated and involves discounting to avoid infinite payoffs and initial commitment and trigger strategies for subsequent stages, such as Grim and Tit-for That ) I don't think "Tit" means breast here, but I could be wrong.
      One example of the one-stage Prisoners Dilemma is the show, Law and Order SVU.
      For Prisoners Dilemma, if one were to consider "Love" as the police and a man and a woman encounter as a game, then if the goal was simply who wins, then it be a best response to lie about their intentions (defect from truth) whereas if they both possessed some form of ethics or deontology, they would both cooperate. If one cooperates and the other is dishonest /defects, then we know what would happen, the cooperator gets screwed (figuratively) mad possibly "takes it out on the next", as they say, kind of like an iteration on larger society.
      I guess my overall point is that Prisoners Dilemma might apply on parts of the topic, kind of interestingly, but much of what Whet Wafflea discusses in his excellent video goes beyond the Prisoner's Dilemma, at least in the most common formulations (2 players, finite iterations and stages, and the same strategy sets with two strategies for the players.
      There is something more advanced for which its creators I believe wom a Fields Medal called Mean Field Theory. It delays with how an individual acts in response to it's group, much like fish in a school.
      But, I think for practical purposes and since most people are still in blue pill stage, by either innocent naive primitive (Cupid) beliefs or privileged ignorance interpretations of "love" ( The Bachelor / Bachelorette TV show), Wheat has done a really incredible job summarizing a multi-faceted argument

  • @robertlunderwood
    @robertlunderwood Před 2 lety +21

    Another point to add to the market failure is that dating used to be localized; you only had access to what's in your area. However, men are no longer competing against other local men for local women; they are competing against men globally.

  • @helgaioannidis9365
    @helgaioannidis9365 Před 2 lety +244

    As a German I've never understood the whole dating thing in the US. I've never been on a date in my life. Why do you have those rules about how many dates until sex and stuff like that? If I liked a person I'd hang out just as friends. And if I'd start having more romantic feelings I'd send signals to let him know and usually we'd end up kissing after a while if he was feeling the same. Always worked for me in Germany and Italy and also with my Greek husband.
    With all my ex boyfriends and my husband I happened to be friends before ending up together.
    I feel like this dating thing rushes things a lot.

    • @leacwpc
      @leacwpc Před 2 lety

      you're a woman.
      you wouldn't get it.

    • @baronvonjo1929
      @baronvonjo1929 Před 2 lety

      Not everyone does it the same way

    • @zerotwo7319
      @zerotwo7319 Před 2 lety +44

      Ironicaly, a nice comment with a possible solution is left to rot.

    • @Autz64
      @Autz64 Před 2 lety

      because the US is having some serious mental health problems. Is no coincidence that most of this bullshit comes from there.

    • @deltaxcd
      @deltaxcd Před 2 lety +29

      Well that "hanging out" thing is nothing else than a "date". You just used different words.
      But now think how do you find those friends with whom you "hang out" and to how many men you refuse to give your time and attention before they can even show themselves properly?
      also how interesting that by some strange magic you start having "romantic feelings" like a guys does not even need to do or say anything for that to happen :)
      so strange and magical :)

  • @herekitty791
    @herekitty791 Před 2 lety +171

    Ukrainain women are dating Polish and British Chads while their male counterparts are taking part in a 'special military operation'

    • @HadesHatredEdge
      @HadesHatredEdge Před 2 lety +77

      No matter what people say about equality, the male role never changes. Ukraine is proof of that. All you need is for something to go wrong. Men are expendable.

    • @herekitty791
      @herekitty791 Před 2 lety

      @@HadesHatredEdge Are you sure? Sweden has a gender neutral draft, and all it takes is for Gen Z and Alpha to be sensitive and anti traditionalist enough to fully discard gender roles. I say this as a BP nihilist whose identity revolves around hating and arguing with braindead normies

    • @azacink
      @azacink Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, dating apps literally exploded with Ukrainian women since the last few months... Not sure if to quickly secure an already established citizen with resources (they really tryhard with their looks) or just to hook up with a few Chads.. Probably both. At the same time.

    • @MikeG82
      @MikeG82 Před 2 lety +1

      the men all should've refused to fight a war they can't possibly win, don't listen to the MSM Russia is winning easily

    • @maryjack3830
      @maryjack3830 Před 2 lety +10

      Hypergamy. Men date down so women can date up (in this case financially) The brits and the Polls can date their own women but they choose the Uk rainian women.

  • @sirspeedy9006
    @sirspeedy9006 Před rokem +37

    I appreciate this video because it acknowledges how the problems work in reverse and it's both a male and female issue. We all need to do better

  • @TotalStoicism
    @TotalStoicism Před 2 lety +140

    As a tall person, I have always wanted to defend all shorter people for being mistreated because of their height.
    I am 23 year old male, never dated. On looks I would consider myself as 5, 4 on bad days and maybe I could get to 6 if I really pushed and tried to looksmax. On personality and skillset front I would rate myself as solid 9. I am quite caring, imaginative and also analytical like our boy waffles. Currently I am learning my 5th language.
    As I said, I am also pretty tall, 188 cm or 6'2 to be exact. But I never want to be rated just based on this. Being tall is not something I chose when I got birthed into this world. I feel the stuggles shorter people might have. If someone gets interested of me and my height plays a key role in that attraction, I will NEVER accept that person close to me. She is not good enough for me and never will be, I will look for someone more reasonable.

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak Před rokem +6

      This literally makes no sense because of you find a good woman you will not question if she is with me because of height and even if you wanted she will never tell you it's because of your height but it's not... But without it she wouldn't even care about you anyway.

    • @TotalStoicism
      @TotalStoicism Před rokem +19

      @@siemniak You do you
      And I dont get half of what you are trying to say :D
      Have a nice day!

    • @miquebts
      @miquebts Před rokem +2

      You never gonna find a good girl, they just look at you because your height and that's it

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 Před rokem +1

      Being a tall man alone doesnt make a man good looking, his face and body shape does. My guess is girls who fixate on a mans height cannot get a good looking tall man. So they look for plainer men as that is a status in on itself for plain women.

    • @Ozzie_Mandias
      @Ozzie_Mandias Před rokem

      Girls want a Frat boy mate… a guy who drinks beer, is kinda dumb, works out and is active social justice warrior… this is a girl’s fantasy mate.

  • @28NR
    @28NR Před 2 lety +176

    it's ridiculous how difficult it has become to get a woman

    • @Shoegazebasedgenre0.
      @Shoegazebasedgenre0. Před 2 lety +72

      being loved and having someone to cheer you up is something that shouldn't be too much to ask

    • @seventhkeyomegasghost8233
      @seventhkeyomegasghost8233 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Shoegazebasedgenre0. for soulless selfish "beings" it is too hard to ask for.

    • @mikeprice8307
      @mikeprice8307 Před 2 lety +9

      🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 😭😭 yup ain't never lying! Then all they do is tease us with sleezy tiktok vids. Who would have thought you had to buy a women just to get her for a little while, and even that's difficult In This day and time.

    • @Anna-vl2ni
      @Anna-vl2ni Před 2 lety +10

      Getting women is the easiest it’s ever been actually. You used to have to marry them , build a house by hand, be a Casanova or philosopher to be popular etc. I think what’s harder to find is genuine love . Women are frustrated with the dating scene too. There seems to be an invisible wall (which I believe may be peoples agenda’s and intentions clashing. But I’m not sure)

    • @28NR
      @28NR Před 2 lety +1

      @@Anna-vl2ni yes it is easy for chads and tyrones. they have sex with the women most of the time but don't want a relationship. that's why women get frustrated. Women choose and you always choose a playboy, but then when you get older and realize you don't stand a chance with the playboys, you marry a normal man. then after a few years you get bored and divorce and find a new man because you can do it with no problem. that's fact.

  • @bigbanknewyork3655
    @bigbanknewyork3655 Před 2 lety +69

    She rather wait 2 years and be Chad's 39th option than to be the average guy (the 90% male) #1 option. She will use batteries in the interim and wait it out.

    • @maryjack3830
      @maryjack3830 Před 2 lety +3

      Men are keys women are locks.
      For women to be a good lock she would only be opened by a very good key, chad.

    • @Anna-vl2ni
      @Anna-vl2ni Před 2 lety +4

      😂😂. That’s hilarious. I’m not sure I’m looking for a “chad” but I will use these batteries and wait it out . I guess vibrators are public enemy number 1 now 😂.

    • @autism1151
      @autism1151 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Anna-vl2ni you are a psychopath

    • @loverofhumanity
      @loverofhumanity Před 2 lety +14

      @@Anna-vl2ni your gonna lose either way tbh. But I think it's better than trapping some beta you ain't really into. However, if you can't land what you want it's simply because your not good enough.

    • @Anna-vl2ni
      @Anna-vl2ni Před 2 lety

      @@loverofhumanity if I’m not good enough now then I can work on myself 🤷🏽‍♀️ . Also what’s wrong about waiting for the right one? Better than having sex with every Tom dick and Harry. Cause then I’d be a hore Right? Why are the men so catty on this thread 😂. I thought that was a female trait .

  • @JamesOKeefe-US
    @JamesOKeefe-US Před rokem +29

    11:55 "How he can lie with a sense of pride, I have no idea." Excellent point. He shouldn't. As a 50 yo who has been married for 16 years, integrity is the most powerful trait a man can have. It took me a long time to find the right person, so please don't give up. Keep trying, reach out with genuine care and concern for the other individual and it will show through. Be honest but also take it slow. Relationships need time to breath and there are compromises along the way. They shouldn't be bad compromises because you both want what is best for the other person. My wife and I made an agreement when we were dating that we would both try and do one thing each day to make the other person's day better and it has been wonderful. Integrity drives all of this. If you commit to your significant other then truly commit or move on. It's only fair to give 100% if it's going to last. Good luck out there, it is a much more difficult world these days, but many of us older peeps want the best for you and want you to succeed more than anything. Love y'all!

    • @loneIyboy15
      @loneIyboy15 Před rokem

      I think you should get yourself checked for Alzheimer's, because you seemed to forget literally everything that was said in the video by the time you wrote this comment.
      The market has failed on several levels. There is no "finding the right person" with any level of reliability. There are too many males buying into a market full of delusional, picky sellers who have lost their ability to properly retain their value.

    • @br9760
      @br9760 Před rokem +2

      This is the way. We need talk to our elders on how marriages and dating work out long term. It's so obvious to do, you don't think about it.

    • @centralintelligenceagency9003
      @centralintelligenceagency9003 Před 5 měsíci

      Men are being punished and ostracized for integrity. What do you expect from them? To follow rules nobody cares about?

  • @NinjaKuma
    @NinjaKuma Před 2 lety +8

    Most of the top % men on dating apps are just there to hook up, not settle down.
    That's why women blame men, because they expect something which was never available in the firstplace.
    Asymmetric information indeed.

  • @flygonkerel781
    @flygonkerel781 Před 2 lety +389

    you HAVE to be immoral to win in modern dating. being decent and honest gets you NOWHERE

    • @brandonwombacher2559
      @brandonwombacher2559 Před 2 lety +21

      Yep

    • @harsh3948
      @harsh3948 Před 2 lety +37

      that ends up in a race to the bottom, not everyone can win, hence the tragedy of the commons

    • @rod7177
      @rod7177 Před 2 lety

      This is why the Chad's excel. Most, if not all Chads, have personality disorders. Think sociopaths and narcissists. These people have no conscience which makes it easy for them to ignore social boundaries.

    • @roadbone1941
      @roadbone1941 Před 2 lety

      Being an ugly and immoral won't get you shit.
      Women only like HANDSOME men, immoral or not.

    • @ziyamalik1666
      @ziyamalik1666 Před 2 lety +6

      Don't whine when karma will hit you

  • @BlessedBanter
    @BlessedBanter Před 2 lety +20

    They don’t care about inequality in the sexual market because the inequality benefits women

  • @creativename2567
    @creativename2567 Před rokem +15

    Nowadays we search for the *perfect* partner, which is extremely rare to actually find. Don't get me wrong, finding a good partner is essential but sometimes just because we disagree about something the whole relationship falls apart

    • @alicerayne9461
      @alicerayne9461 Před rokem +3

      That has a lot to do with to many to choose from, How the internet killed love people are Deposable in the dating world,

    • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
      @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- Před 10 měsíci

      @@alicerayne9461 It's more like a slot machine process now.

  • @teaadvice4996
    @teaadvice4996 Před rokem +5

    How to get a girl
    1. Be 6ft+
    2. Be 6inch+
    3. Make 6figures+

  • @werinter
    @werinter Před 2 lety +51

    The solution: don't take part in this unless you are a chad. Why would you feed your mind with false hope for years when deep inside you know you have zero or nearly zero chance in dating... A market where there are less and less customers and sellers eventually collapses. Do not contribute anything maintaining this system.

    • @mikeprice8307
      @mikeprice8307 Před 2 lety +1

      True, but why? Due to God there is hope.

    • @ziyamalik1666
      @ziyamalik1666 Před 2 lety

      What the solution for women like me who are virgins and want a marriage with a provider protector men?

    • @Michael_the_Drunkard
      @Michael_the_Drunkard Před 2 lety

      Doesn't make sense, bc this would cause Chad monopoly and many normies still get women at least in their 30's. If chad were the only ones to date, not only would many women be desperate but normies would try to put chads 6ft under ground. That's the natural course of action for a disgruntled majority.

    • @werinter
      @werinter Před 2 lety

      @@Michael_the_Drunkard normies over 30=beta buxx... So you can be "succesfull" over 30 as a normal looking guy but you are destined to raise chad's chil. You can be with a young mother of two and be happy. Is it worth it? I dont think so...

    • @kwkfortythree39
      @kwkfortythree39 Před 2 lety +1

      You still are taking part in the circus show with your taxes

  • @laughtherapey
    @laughtherapey Před 2 lety +111

    I used to think that that there was something wrong with my personality or something that people don’t like me or pay me attention while some folks have it very easy to make friends and hang out. It’s not that I am not cultured or articulate. I studies sciences and follow cultural trends. But the moment everything started to making sense was when I discovered wheat waffles. It’s not what you say it’s who says it.

    • @GUITARTIME2024
      @GUITARTIME2024 Před 2 lety +6

      I don't totally agree, but that's true to a certain point.

    • @Krelian4400
      @Krelian4400 Před 2 lety

      Exactly. Unless you are very autistic, your personality is not the problem. When you actually listen to other people talk you realize they do not possess any social abilities beyond yours, they simply are getting a different response and it's all because of looks and social status.

    • @copemaxxing4306
      @copemaxxing4306 Před 2 lety +19

      It took me lots of videos to fully realize the BP in all aspects.
      We are treated dogshit our entire lives and just assume thats the way it is.
      But when we stop to compare our interactions with what better looking guys get, there's no denying that looks is everything.
      Its so obvious but at the same time its not because of endocrination.

    • @matheusGMN
      @matheusGMN Před 2 lety +1

      You should read "the shy man syndrome. why men become love-shy and how they can overcome it" I'm a lot like you, from what you've said, and when I read this book, which is the result of an actual research, I learned a lot, but the short summary is that you have a genetic and upbringing condition that favors behaviors that end with you isolating yourself, of course the book will explain it much better, I will say you this, read the first like 5 chapters, and if you don't find a situation in which it was described to you a situation in your own life to the detail, then it's not probably what you have, but if it's true, then read to the end.
      The book is on the internet archive if it helps

  • @lalakuma9
    @lalakuma9 Před rokem +34

    10:01 This part is absolutely true in my past experience 😑 And once I dropped every guy who was ambiguous, suddenly the dating app hated me too for being "flaky". So glad to be out of the dating market.

    • @sidneyboo9704
      @sidneyboo9704 Před rokem +15

      100%. The guys want a girl with low body count yet they contribute to that problem by being ambiguous. Forget it.

    • @1Plebeian
      @1Plebeian Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@sidneyboo9704 the cost of commitment for men is enormous though. Divorce court, alimony, child support for kids that aren't yours.

    • @centralintelligenceagency9003
      @centralintelligenceagency9003 Před 5 měsíci

      Tell them that you want a relationship, you're clingy/creepy/boring. Tell them that you want casual sex then you're a bunch of other negative descriptors. Guys just can't win can they?

  • @psychosylocibin
    @psychosylocibin Před 2 lety +619

    I'd recommmend Aaron Clareys "The Menu" as a must read for men that are making the decision to leave the dating arena. For most men, most of our actions in our life since puberty have been at least partially motivated by the pursuit of women - your career choice, hitting the gym, dressing well, friends, living location etc. It's clear the dating space is completely unsalvegable at this point and most men will fail to achieve what they traditionally define as a health stable relationship with a women, even after putting the effort . Problem is, once you make the calculated decision to leave the dating arena, you realize how many things you have done in the past where the result of pursuing women and suddenly those things have less meaning and your motivation plummets - usually it catchse you by surprise until you introspect further. "why am I working at this job that sucks 50 hours a week? - oh it's because I'm trying to make more money since I heard women like financial security "why do I live in this overly priced apartment next to a trendy area - oh it's because I heard that women like a man with a nice crib" "why did I spend 100 dollars on a custom tailored dress shirt - oh its because when I puirchased it i was trying to bring out my v-taper for women". you need to re-direct your motivation towards a new purpose - community, passions, health - freeing up your time and energy towards what makes you happy, completely indepedent of the opposite sex.
    You may start doing odd things that belie your perviously manufactured personality like buying your clothes from a thriftshop because you are longer trying to impress women. you my choose to suddenly work only 20 hours a week since there is no motivation to work extra to impress women. If you were a victim of the PUA "game" scheme you may suddenly find yourself reverting back to your introverted reserved self when you go out - choosing to relax and enjoy a drink in solititude rather than work on your "game" by chatting up women and strangers.
    I can tell you, re-directing and changing your habits towards fufilling your vision, completely independent of women (and I mean completely) is one of the most freeing, eye opening, and peaceful things a man can do. you day to day activies will not be frought with anxiety / work / stress from trying to acheive things or do things for women, but will be replaced with a peaceful calm and no expectations to the future, as you will be intrisincally motivated versus extrinsically motivated. you will know you've finally acheived inner peace when there are no expectations and you are fine with it - when it's been a few years since your journey and you suddenly think "huh, I havn't been on a date in 3 years and I simply don't care"
    The one thing you will miss is human touch, but I can tell you from a cost/benefit standpoint that the benefits far outweight the costs.
    Edit: Wow This blew up - I'd like to clarify that this path is your choice and your choice alone, and is not necessarily a permanent thing. One may want to consider the above to take a break from dating to focus on themselves for a while, or one may decide to make the above a lifelong commitment. IMO I think every man (and women) should reflect on it and make a concerted effort to try it at least once in their lives. And it doesn't mean to transition to completely ignoring the opposite sex (versus pursue the opposite sex) - this is not a dichotomy - still treat the women you encounter in your life well - but remove the "fog" of sexual intent that blinds you and interact with them as individuals/people. I only say this because I notice a lot of men who go down this path tend to scoff at women/choose to purposely ignore them - that is not the right approach as they are still taking up mental space in your head.

    • @Robert.Lachowski550
      @Robert.Lachowski550 Před 2 lety

      Aaron clarey just likes to gaslight men to make them feel wrong that they are heterossexual, that's so s1ck and toxic.
      It's like to tell a lesbian girl or a gay guy to stop liking the same gender, it's a very toxic thing to say.

    • @pthebeast2
      @pthebeast2 Před 2 lety +64

      This is very well put sir!

    • @BboyDaquack
      @BboyDaquack Před 2 lety +33

      Preciate you taking the time to share. I definitely had a moment where I hit that realization. But for me, grinding towards financial success was both for a future partner but also for my immediate family. I wanted to be able to financially secure my parents and siblings. And I'm getting to that point now.

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic Před 2 lety +38

      Don't chase the money, chase the work you love to do. As NOTHING in life will bring you more fulfilment than having the time/freedom/energy to work on the things that matter most to you.

    • @andrewwilkinson4153
      @andrewwilkinson4153 Před 2 lety +24

      Very underrated comment.

  • @wpelfeta
    @wpelfeta Před 2 lety +115

    I think everyone (both men and women) just have their expectations set too high. We're all expecting to find the perfect SO because we consume so much social media and see the best moments of everyone else's life. We want that. But in reality, everyone has their flaws and life is not always perfect.

    • @fausto412
      @fausto412 Před 2 lety

      80% of divorces are filed by women. Who has expectations too high?

    • @goncalocarneiro3043
      @goncalocarneiro3043 Před 2 lety +4

      Indeed, but can you blame people? To be jealous is only natural. The solution could be to have everyone at a super same playing field. Everyone has to be married, live in a same house and have three kids. But that's dystopian as heck.

    • @blindtherapper2470
      @blindtherapper2470 Před rokem +9

      Men have just expectations and it already fails at that lol

    • @DMAGAEscober
      @DMAGAEscober Před rokem +5

      It’s the women with the impossible more than 6ft tall expectations.

  • @thebxx724
    @thebxx724 Před 2 lety +70

    Anybody else annoyed with online dating? I find that almost all the women I interact with online treat me like crap. And I'm a tall, handsome, and a financially independent man with a good job. Just recently I cancelled a date with a girl because she tried to use me as her backup plan. She didnt text me all day but all of a sudden was a quick replier when I called her out for being a selfish inconsiderate jerk. I deleted all my dating apps and decided I'll put in more effort to meet women in person.

    • @denisl2760
      @denisl2760 Před 2 lety

      Only very low quality women use online dating. Vast majority are obese, single mothers, or complete narcissists or scams. Its just not worth your time to try to find the 0.01% of women on there who could possibly be ok to date.

    • @thebxx724
      @thebxx724 Před 2 lety +6

      @@denisl2760
      Agreed. It’s possible to get laid on dating apps but you gotta filter through way too much BS.

    • @robertnewett5932
      @robertnewett5932 Před 2 lety +20

      Online dating is trash because the conversation always begins with a battle for power and frame control. This is women executing their first sh!@ test right off the jump. They want to play the cat and mouse banter games to challenge men to see who passes their test of social and communication wittyness. Its always pulling teeth and never worth the time invested.

    • @robertnewett5932
      @robertnewett5932 Před 2 lety

      @MR. RICKLES FARTTENHOOS
      Yup. Who has time for the back and forth game of one-upsmanship? Not me.

    • @TheSamohtnj
      @TheSamohtnj Před 2 lety +1

      same here

  • @Tony-sq7vi
    @Tony-sq7vi Před 2 lety +209

    We digged our own grave creating a system that satisfies all women needs:
    Protection -> State
    Food and Shelter -> Work
    Sex -> Chad + Birth Control
    Attention -> SIMPS
    Is there a place for us in this system?
    Yes -> wage slave -> pay taxes -> money will be invested into their needs.
    Have a good day, guys!

    • @21fad24
      @21fad24 Před 2 lety

      suifuel

    • @selfishbeats
      @selfishbeats Před 2 lety

      lol men killed themselves. should have IQmaxxed

    • @nicolaslatorre810
      @nicolaslatorre810 Před 2 lety +3

      So how about you become a Chad like figure then. It's not rocket science .

    • @the_rover1
      @the_rover1 Před 2 lety +23

      stop paying taxes, then.

    • @nicolaslatorre810
      @nicolaslatorre810 Před 2 lety +16

      @@the_rover1 just go to the hills. Live In anarchism.

  • @sujatamastani9762
    @sujatamastani9762 Před 2 lety +49

    I think dating expectations and personal values are a massive aspects that are missed on dating apps.

  • @177SCmaro
    @177SCmaro Před rokem +4

    The fundamental issue is, in the mad rush of attempting to solve women's every need and want, society has made marriage so risky and lacking benefits to men that men are opting out and merely engaging in relationships for short term sex. Even just associating with women has become so risky that some men are even avoiding women in general. Think about it, from a legal standpoint associating with a woman is like dealing with a ticking bomb that may go off at any moment or maybe never.
    The driving force behind this is women and men attempting to appease women.

  • @violentamentepacifico3500
    @violentamentepacifico3500 Před 2 lety +81

    I love your format, less videos a month but with unmatched quality in details and research.

  • @stevenparker3696
    @stevenparker3696 Před 2 lety +567

    Paternity tests should be MANDATORY for every child. It would be unimaginably devastating to find out that your child was sired by another man and the woman deceived you about paternity.

    • @evanboll4651
      @evanboll4651 Před 2 lety +35

      Indeed. Not everyone looks almost like a physical clone of their Dad to the point their Mom's the only one who can reliably tell the difference when almost everyone on his side of the family can't. I keep on having to remind them all that my Dad's the one with greying hair and a beard.

    • @Gice2787
      @Gice2787 Před 2 lety +60

      When you mention this around thw women in your life watch their reaction. My mom freaked when I mentioned it about my kids. Turns out i have more half sisters then I thought.

    • @matthewbiggin9887
      @matthewbiggin9887 Před 2 lety +9

      This is probably more common than you think tbf.

    • @mbormann6046
      @mbormann6046 Před 2 lety +21

      Money making idea. Offer paternity tests at the maternity ward. $25 to do the test $10,000 not to do it.

    • @macmcleod1188
      @macmcleod1188 Před 2 lety +2

      @@matthewbiggin9887 Formal studies of blood types and via dna showed non-matched paternity *was* about 1% among highly religious and wealthy in the 1980s to 1990s and ranged up to 10% in some other groups with 2-3% being typical for most demographics.

  • @williambrockmeyer7590
    @williambrockmeyer7590 Před 2 lety +12

    Back when I was on these apps I would try to explain this to my friends and they thought I was just upset or being obsessed about it. It's good to see a like minded soul who sees the model as it is. I find it interesting.

  • @creative_cooper
    @creative_cooper Před 2 lety +4

    You might not have the largest following, but you are by a mile the most intellectual manosphere guru. very well explained. liked and subbed.

  • @RandomGuyyy
    @RandomGuyyy Před 2 lety +203

    Great video, Wheat. For people coming to this channel from reaction channels because they heard about the black pill being misanthropic, this video provides eye-opening objectivity and ethics.

    • @Macoinebak
      @Macoinebak Před 2 lety +2

      Misogynist* misanthropic means you donate a lot

    • @jerkstown2231
      @jerkstown2231 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Macoinebak no... Misanthropic means that you hate humankind, which is what the black pill is accused of. So what Random Guy wrote was correct

    • @RandomGuyyy
      @RandomGuyyy Před 2 lety

      @@Macoinebak Just out of curiosity (and of course you don't have to answer) did you come here from a reaction channel?

    • @nadabeautiful1939
      @nadabeautiful1939 Před 2 lety

      @@RandomGuyyy Most of them do, blame that commie shill hasan

    • @willb295
      @willb295 Před 2 lety

      @@Macoinebak You’re thinking of philanthropic.

  • @siegfriedo
    @siegfriedo Před 2 lety +421

    10:00 I really appreciate you encouraging ethics, honesty and common courtesy in people when dating.
    This is so rare in today's red pill communities, in fact it is almost non-existent. 👍

    • @gaelr.s7123
      @gaelr.s7123 Před 2 lety +22

      But this is not redpill tho, this is blackpill

    • @siegfriedo
      @siegfriedo Před 2 lety +13

      @@gaelr.s7123 I am 100 % aware of that. Your point being...?

    • @fallencrusader2975
      @fallencrusader2975 Před 2 lety

      Blackpill is the same as redpill it is just a smaller community that is a part of redpill.
      To take the black pill you must first take the red pill to gain "awareness"
      Biggest difference is how the black pill acts based on that redpill awareness.

    • @gaelr.s7123
      @gaelr.s7123 Před 2 lety +7

      @@siegfriedo I thought you confused this with the redpill because you mentioned it in your comment. But I misunderstood

    • @JehutyX01
      @JehutyX01 Před 2 lety +7

      It's too idealistic. If you'll be honest and care about other's happiness on dating market you'll end up being forever alone.
      While the folks just like you who say proper sugarcoated lies will get the girls and stuff.
      You'll never be rewarded for being honest there.

  • @Serothil_and_stuff
    @Serothil_and_stuff Před rokem +7

    My biggest problem in dating is a crippling fear of rejection. I literally get heartburn and a ridiculously high heartrate when I try to talk to women. Which kills my ability to think straight or to get/stay hard.

    • @comicrandomness3289
      @comicrandomness3289 Před rokem +1

      Drink alcohol. It helps me out. I mean i still got rejected by every girl I've asked out but at least i asked the question.

    • @comicrandomness3289
      @comicrandomness3289 Před rokem +1

      Unless that heart burn is due to some illness that prevents you from drinking. If so then I've got no advice to help you.

  • @briandbeaudin9166
    @briandbeaudin9166 Před 2 lety +8

    Very well done. One of the problems with the way dating seems to be working these days is that the people looking for dates only have very superficial information to base their choice on, a picture and some details which may or may not be true (and even the picture itself might be edited!) So as you say, this tips the advantage to the people or willing to present themselves in a false way.

  • @vaccinatedanti-vaxxer
    @vaccinatedanti-vaxxer Před 2 lety +105

    Dating, mate selecting has become human shopping in our current globalized consumer Era. Especially Dating on apps, men have to come up with a brand. Sort of like pro wrestlers they have to come up with a vivid and simple to categorize persona. Before stone cold Steve Austin, he was a millionaire glam wrestler. For instance, a guy can pick to be: athletic military guy, rich mature guy, artistic passionate guy from Europe, tattooed motorcycle guy, etc... being just a regular guy puts men at a disadvantage. Women are natural consumers. They love finding and measuring and comparing value among things. For instance, they love shiny rocks not for their usefulness but it's rarity or how few can own it (exclusivity). While common rocks or glass just as shiny are not desired because everyone can own it. If a silly fashion trend suddenly becomes a hit for a season, women will follow the trend because by wearing it, her value increases. Likewise women want a rare, highly seeked out man. Because by locking him down in a relationship, her value is solidified. If 6ft tall men were to norm, women will demand 6.5. The height itself or even the looks is not the most important factor for women, it's how their value will increase by Dating. Women trade in old hand bags for a newer better one, but we have a word for when they do this to men: hypergamy. If a friend zoned nice guy suddenly started to get massive attention from women (say he had a huge youtube channel, got on the news for heroics, wrote a best seller, started a band, etc...) he will start to look more attractive to the women that friend zoned him because he the kind of guy now that can validate their value as women.
    Love is a thing of the past, before the consumer age.

    • @vklnew9824
      @vklnew9824 Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/4TkFmmdmk50/video.html

    • @jamespardee9300
      @jamespardee9300 Před 2 lety +10

      You got it! The last "Love Generation" wasn't the baby boomers, but their parents. The "hippie Movement" tried to hold onto those values altruistically, and was, in that regard an absolute failure. People often blame "free love" for this, but the availability of "the free stuff" hasn't even stopped prostitution from being popular. The real reason is as you indicated: Monetarism has INSTITUTIONALIZED the reduction of human value as a side effect. Notice, however the hue and cry going on from the far right about how it has rendered things like racism, religion and gender, as well as sexual orientation discrimination less powerful. Monetarism wasn't intended for that purpose, but due to DEMAND, it has produced it as a default, which now evokes resentment, and even violence from those think that their perceived advantage has been confiscated. Here's where it gets interesting: DEMAND is to blame as much as anything. Nowadays, it is sustainable for BOTH sexes, regardless of orientation to remain both single and childless, or nearly so, in comparison with earlier generations. This also is due to health care conditions lowering the death rate of individuals. The demand, therefore is ALSO A DEFAULT! (see "Mouse Utopia" for details.) My hope is the aforementioned will not result in officias persecution of single individuals, but the laws, fortunately prevent it. In the absence of that, however the OPPOSITE is the default (look at the legal and economic disadvantages of an official marriage for details), so that the only viable hypothesis is a return to classical (think Horatio Alger) as opposed to neoclassical (think Milton Friedman) capitalism. As it is we are expected to function in the latter as though we are living in the former. I propose that THIS is the problem that needs to be fixed.

    • @michaeldavid6832
      @michaeldavid6832 Před 2 lety +12

      If you have to pay for anything, she's not that into you.

    • @jghifiversveiws8729
      @jghifiversveiws8729 Před 2 lety +1

      Best comment here

    • @harsh3948
      @harsh3948 Před 2 lety +2

      That is only to a certain extent. Looks in dating follows game theory, where the only form of equal standing in dating is for everyone to be a 10/10. Personalities can be marketable, not looks. This is because of the halo and horn effects of perception by women.

  • @yerusalem4832
    @yerusalem4832 Před 2 lety +26

    Dating is the most ineffective system of pairing ever created.

    • @goncalocarneiro3043
      @goncalocarneiro3043 Před 2 lety +1

      Perhaps, but is any alternative better? Just like "Democracy is the worst method of ruling, after everything else", so is dating. Do you see something I don't? Prefer having your parents arrange marriages, or have the government arrange them?

  • @dingdingnian288
    @dingdingnian288 Před 2 lety +10

    I wouldn’t take it all to serious. Just simply keep in mind: You cannot negotiate attraction and true desire. It happens when it happens. And until it happens you get declined.

    • @gman7497
      @gman7497 Před 2 lety +3

      Yes, it's not something that can really be calculated. I have a couple friends who are married to women who many might consider are 'out of their league' but, they're decent guys who are stable and just happened to find that match at the right time. There's not really a formula to it. Best thing I think, while you're younger especially, is to go out, socialize , expand your network, the more people you know the more opportunities you will have of meeting someone you're compatible with. Even if you date a girl who doesn't romantically connect with you, stay on good terms, she probably has a sister/cousin/friends who are in the market or might be in the future. Treat every date experience as a chance to learn something and/or expand that social circle.

    • @BurriedTruth
      @BurriedTruth Před rokem

      Disagree, i been around the block, i know tall men, i know rich men, i know poor men and i know VVIP men.
      And women have confided in me enough to know whats up.
      Tall, rich, or very high status men could get “ love “ any day of the week.
      When you say when the time is “right” you just mean women who tried and wasted their youth trying to get those men but failed and now she’s quickly scurrying and “settling down” with a normal guy.
      That’s why divorce rate is 80% of the time initiated by women.
      Because they are often bitter they didnt get their first choice.

  • @john_doe_not_found
    @john_doe_not_found Před 2 lety +6

    The problem boils down to hypergamy and a majority of women feeling they are a 10. Since women only date up, and most of them feel they are a 10, then they are looking for 11s. And 11s do not exist on a scale of 1 - 10. So there are a lot of women looking for unicorns.
    Only in their 30s and 40s do they acquire enough life experience to be rational about their expectations. But by then they are beyond child bearing age and are only of use to men who have already had children with another woman.

  • @zerothehero123
    @zerothehero123 Před 2 lety +24

    Based. You're becoming world famous wheat. You probably don't realize the extent to which your research is influencing people, but there will come a point where this information simply can't be denied anymore. Keep up the good fight!

  • @rando1512
    @rando1512 Před 2 lety +80

    Imagine paying some random guy for a face rating lmao. Your experiences in life of how women treat you should give a clear indication as to whether you’re attractive or not.

    • @themarathoncontinues4211
      @themarathoncontinues4211 Před 2 lety +19

      It really makes me question the intelligence of a lot of this audience man.
      His ratings means nothing, your experience means everything

    • @hermanhenderson966
      @hermanhenderson966 Před 2 lety +8

      People cope so hard and need the honest truth. Sometimes blatant honesty doesn’t even help smash their cope.

    • @rando1512
      @rando1512 Před 2 lety +6

      @@hermanhenderson966 I suppose, but either way his advice is no different to what you'd get from any redpill self-improvement coper, also he got exposed and he's a normie, so kind of feels like he's making a career off the blackpill when he's a fakecel.

    • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
      @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- Před 2 lety

      @A Hes just a insecure guy, half the people who agree with his views are incels 😂😂

    • @adama3350
      @adama3350 Před rokem +1

      @A Are you FOS or is WW lying about your rating? My bet is you are FOS

  • @AV57
    @AV57 Před rokem +3

    I've been saying something to this effect for a while: dating in a capitalist society will mirror economics. Our society prioritizes wealth above all else and therefore that is what women understand to be the major factor in their dating calculation. Men need to either have wealth or show the signs of being able to create wealth soon. As long as society is obsessed with wealth, this dating inequality will continue in perpetuity.

  • @sophiedamgen7098
    @sophiedamgen7098 Před 2 lety +29

    I never meet up with guys that say their just dating "casually". Because they're not dating anyway, they just want one thing. And then they get aggressive and try to pressure you when you say no, even tho you told him you're ONLY looking for serious dates. It's exhausting, I often feel like a piece of meat when dating.

    • @talltailless3338
      @talltailless3338 Před rokem +10

      maybe because you're chad only?

    • @neddiecn6343
      @neddiecn6343 Před rokem +7

      I'm pre sure women are no different.
      She will say she wants a relationship, then next say say she isn't looking for one. Literally just messing with your feels and playing mind games.

    • @sophiedamgen7098
      @sophiedamgen7098 Před rokem +8

      @@neddiecn6343 Both genders have people who do that, both genders have people who get hurt through that. It's not a black and white issue, it's simply more dangerous for women and girls. That however does not negate the emotional turmoil anyone suffers from being played with.

    • @neddiecn6343
      @neddiecn6343 Před rokem +4

      @@sophiedamgen7098 It's dangerous for men when women accuse them of r*pe/sexual harassment.

    • @JKRuc
      @JKRuc Před rokem +3

      Maybe you're attracting the wrong type of guys lol. There's lots of guys, like myself, who want more than just sex. Loyalty, Respect, Love, a sort of traditional woman are what most good men are looking for. The problem is that majority of women don't know what else men want besides sex, and have such high standards for most men, when dating, so you ignore or reject guys who want more out of woman besides sex.

  • @BlackHole-qv5no
    @BlackHole-qv5no Před 2 lety +137

    This is one of the most insightful videos i've personally ever encountered on youtube regarding to this content.
    I love how you also highlighted female related information aswell as male realted information. Unlike the youtuber Noah Samsen who tries to portray the blackpill as evil and being dangerous, you instead highlights the obvious imbalances for both men and women. Also, providing an excellent analogy with the car scenario, showing how some feel lied to when their partners lie about certain parameters of who they are a person. Also, pointing out the few guys who use and abuse women like they are an infinite resource, which they are not and destroying dating for everyone else and even in some cases removing that woman entirely from the dating market and how it is immoral to sabotage the womans mental health and others guys chances for nothing but their own personal gain.

    • @the_rover1
      @the_rover1 Před 2 lety +7

      the other day waffles was posting in the community section that his effort to make contact with neil samsen and offer a public discussion with him wasn't replied to at all.
      this made me go visit neils channel and I hit his critique video about WWs content. to be honest, I couldn't bare watching the video to the very end since most stuff is dragged off context and his arguments lack logic. anyway, I made it into the comment section of neils video, and I commented on about 2 dozens of replies there for one and a half hour straight. the energy there is unbelievably passive aggressive, hot tempered and often plain mean. I got the impression that these people are in either fear or lack of deeper understanding and empathy what men and women actually go through when dating or divorcing. it is far more laid back and mature over here on the channels of black pill content creators like WW, "replicant phish" and alike.
      only "man talk" seems a tad bitter, but he gives brutally honest commentary on female tik tok online cringe.

    • @BlackHole-qv5no
      @BlackHole-qv5no Před 2 lety +4

      @@the_rover1 Unfortunately, people like Noah Samsen are not willing to offer a fair and honest discussion at all and will take a stab at people and retreat into the dark as soon as the people he pokes at respond to him. From what i could tell, all he cared about is the classic "Haha Incel XD lol + virgin + never spoke to woman + ratio", type of arguement with zero logic or reasoning to back it up. I was actually engaged in a "discussion" with his commenters- i use the term discussion loosely because i was more like, "I know a guy" type arguements and a passive agressive tone with zero basis, i am refers to the comment chain of some guy pointing out that women prefer taller men and him being slammed by everyone for "needing to go touch grass" and "talk to a real woman" and being referred to as an incel. Also about Noah, im pretty sure his channel is bitching about other creators, spefically people like Think Before You Sleep, and calls everyone an incel who disagrees with him, because let's be real. No guy wants to be an incel; the online community, not the actual definitio due to the cnnations behind it.

    • @jokerpilled2535
      @jokerpilled2535 Před 2 lety +6

      Same goes for Hamza copers. The people here at least use rational arguments whereas redpill creators argue with their ego.

    • @BlackHole-qv5no
      @BlackHole-qv5no Před 2 lety +7

      @@jokerpilled2535 The amount of "I know a guy' arguements is fucking insane at times, and also the good ol fashion ' broooo i slay like 10 chicks a month and i have a normie face', like my guy is a chadlite thats 6'2 and ripped and is pretending that we are all in the same boat.

    • @jokerpilled2535
      @jokerpilled2535 Před 2 lety +6

      @@BlackHole-qv5no sometimes it feels like I’m arguing with females in those comment sections. And people say men are rational…redpillers proved me wrong.

  • @anonymousreaper2186
    @anonymousreaper2186 Před 2 lety +21

    Dating apps allows women to order s_ex like Pizza.
    While allows men to order s_ex like a vintage 1670 watch.

    • @grapeboi9256
      @grapeboi9256 Před 2 lety

      @OUTCLASSER Support Team and?. ..

    • @maryjack3830
      @maryjack3830 Před 2 lety

      @@grapeboi9256 and so for course women can be extra picky with their sex partners

  • @georgesmith5201
    @georgesmith5201 Před rokem +34

    For the sake of my self-esteem I did a hard pass on the dating game. Most of my friends are stressing out and stuck in the vicious cycle, but some have given up at this point. I was in a few relationships in high school in the era before dating apps really took off and lost my v-card. So, I'm content with the single life. 😅

    • @MineJuatense
      @MineJuatense Před rokem +2

      Same here man. It was pretty easy to date as a teenager. Haven't done so for some time now, though, due to life and all

  • @nickchavez720
    @nickchavez720 Před rokem +8

    Interestingly there may already be a solution from the past that can help with this issue: a Profesional matchmaker. In the past it was not uncommon for their to be a matchmaker whose job it was to match up suitors who were interested in a serious long term relationship.
    This solves the problem because those who go to a matchmaker are already eliminating the problems of flakiness and non commitment because they are going to a pool of people who are seriously looking for a long term relationship. It then gets narrowed even further as the number of suitors gets more and more refined.
    It may first seem weird, but matchmakers were the norm for most of human history until modernity. Ironically, or not so ironically, an old-fashioned solution may solve a modern problem.

    • @Scotty_Bo0m
      @Scotty_Bo0m Před 9 měsíci

      lol bro match makers went out of business cuz of hypergamy. Quickly the lady match makers realized they were screwed cuz they saw fellow women wouldnt pick a guy, & thus matchmaking became dead. Which is why they became dating coach grifters. They pivotted & realized they could monetize mens lonliness cuz woman are running rough shed over the market... the guy who made this video understands nothing!

  • @BasedBill_Lumbergh
    @BasedBill_Lumbergh Před 2 lety +294

    The current western dating market can be compared to the current western housing market. If you're a dude and you can't get a girlfriend, it doesn't mean you are ugly necessarily or there's really anything wrong with you. It's just that the market demands that you be 6'3, have a ripped body, and look like Henry Cavill. And that's just to get some average looking chick. If you are not those things, and you can't get a girlfriend, congratulations you are in the 99 percent of the population. You see, it's not really you. The market standards in the not too distant past weren't this ridiculous. Being a normal average dude in the past, meant you get a normal average girlfriend. But you see, somewhere along the line, the market got inflated by feminism, social media, dating apps, and other factors. So basically, It's a rigged market if you're a man. This is much like the Western housing market too. Does it mean that you don't work hard enough just because you can't afford your own home? Definitely not. Just a very basic apartment in most western cities will set you back nearly $500,000. This wasn't the market standard in the not too distant past. Hell, back in the day, you could buy a pretty decent house for that price. But somewhere along the line the housing market got screwed up. Wealthy foreign investors, mass immigration, zonal building restrictions, property taxes, and other variants have over inflated the market and screwed it up. So basically, it's a rigged market. These are things beyond your control, so there's no use beating yourself up over the fact that you can't afford a house. If you want a house, just like if you want a girl, you need to go to a market somewhere else where it isn't completely inflated and rigged against you. There are places in the world where a basic apartment won't set you back half a million dollars. And yes, there are places in the world that don't require you to be a perfect 10 to get a girl who is plain bang average. You probably have something to offer a girl. So don't waste it on these ungrateful, selfish western b×tches who don't know the first thing about being feminine. I'd be just as likely to say to you that if you have $500,000, don't spend it on some crappy little city apartment. Take that money and go buy yourself that luxury beach home in Thailand. There's actually a life out there for you lads. Just because the market around you is rigged, it doesn't mean that you should make yourself miserable by playing a game that's been designed for you to lose.

    • @donwarren3253
      @donwarren3253 Před 2 lety +18

      Nice comment. I thought it was civil until it escalated equickly about the comment of western women lol. And I don't want to date thai women, I'd rather stick to white women, even in this inflated market

    • @granddefectus4602
      @granddefectus4602 Před 2 lety +8

      Supply and demand. This simple fact goes over 100% of people's heads.

    • @pthebeast2
      @pthebeast2 Před 2 lety +39

      @@donwarren3253 Nothing he said was uncivil.

    • @lizbethtristan7721
      @lizbethtristan7721 Před 2 lety

      P

    • @jonr2557
      @jonr2557 Před 2 lety +23

      70 percent of people are in relationships but 50 percent of young men are not in one. So you're exaggerating but 50 percent is still big.

  • @kidkieran77
    @kidkieran77 Před 2 lety +48

    I managed to get my first date in a year the other week, went on a second date, tried to get a third but it turns out she has a boyfriend. Short, ugly and a lack of game. It's tough out here.

    • @GGWP-nx3kn
      @GGWP-nx3kn Před 2 lety +39

      You could have stopped at short and ugly, lel. There is no game for your bad genes.

    • @Robert.Lachowski550
      @Robert.Lachowski550 Před 2 lety

      what is your height? how many gfs did you had?

    • @pthebeast2
      @pthebeast2 Před 2 lety +16

      @@GGWP-nx3kn I bet he only showers like ONCE day and doesn't even use tactical soap. Probably hasn't had a fresh haircut in like 3 days lol.

    • @ilostthreeaccountstoyoutub1434
      @ilostthreeaccountstoyoutub1434 Před 2 lety

      @@GGWP-nx3kn at least he got a date something you simps will never get

    • @mynameis248
      @mynameis248 Před 2 lety +2

      I do see being tall as an advantage, but being short really shouldn’t be a problem as long as you’re taller than the women. There’s plenty of Latinas and Asians around 5’2. I’m just under 5’8 btw

  • @The3rdeye14
    @The3rdeye14 Před rokem +2

    People aren’t connecting with themselves anymore. People don’t want to find happiness in being alone. If you’re happy with yourself and good with your energy, you will attract what the universe wants for you

  • @mrchrisbruh
    @mrchrisbruh Před rokem +4

    Problems are a lot of people date before they can fully mature, and when they get hurt, they think of the opposite sex in the wrong way

  • @DisturbingFacts7
    @DisturbingFacts7 Před 2 lety +182

    At this point I'm convinced that to reverse this problem there would need to be a conflict on a massive scale, like another world war, to mobilise society towards a specific common goal that requires manpower to achieve. The average man just doesn't hold any value in good and easy times and the ridiculous state of the dating market is irrefutable evidence of that.

    • @bogdankovalenko5096
      @bogdankovalenko5096 Před 2 lety +35

      no worries. it is inevitable as it is will be natural consequence of the mess we currently have

    • @unicron2109
      @unicron2109 Před 2 lety +5

      Insert Monkeypox

    • @GbpsGbps-vn3jy
      @GbpsGbps-vn3jy Před 2 lety +17

      Sadly I'm thinking the same. The process already started looking at poorer countries where men are accepted only as cannon fodder during wartime and miners during peacetime \o/

    • @RRbattlefield
      @RRbattlefield Před 2 lety +15

      Unfortunately (or fortunately), a huge crisis on the scale of World War 2 seems to only be about a few years away, at best, maybe sooner. As much as I don’t want a crisis to happen, I think it’s inevitable. I have hopes that our society will come out greater than what it was prior to the crisis.

    • @GbpsGbps-vn3jy
      @GbpsGbps-vn3jy Před 2 lety +2

      @@MichaelengeloMC Government and welfare are words that collide in each other when met in one sentence

  • @tarekrahou6529
    @tarekrahou6529 Před 2 lety +39

    I freaking love this channel, it's so clear and the different analogies are on point.
    The work behind those videos mist be insane.
    You should definitely consider doing research into social studies, it could be a nice help for how our societies view men and their struggles.

  • @ChianTheContrarian
    @ChianTheContrarian Před 2 lety +87

    I take myself out on a date, everything else just falls into place. External validation becomes secondary not the main course; indifference without it, umami with it. Simple paradigm to live by.
    While I appreciate the content of this video, one has to be careful about excessive consumption of content that does not increase the quality of one's life. Seeking validation from others to one's own "Righteous" victimhood feels good in the short run, but only makes one bitter in the long run, a pyrrhic victory. Self-care, self-forgiveness, and self-love would be a better antidote against the economic forces of dating.

  • @hexwolfi
    @hexwolfi Před rokem +3

    What I've learned from this video:
    Capitalism is exploitative, treats people like objects, and needs to be thrown out with the trash.

  • @thejudge108
    @thejudge108 Před 2 lety +311

    When women complain about being compared to objects, they are just creating a straw man. No one is saying they are a vehicle or an object, the car is meant to be an analogy so everyone can understand the decision making process. Similarly, we could say a modern woman is equal to an ex-con in the dating market: they have a checkered past and questionable decision making skills.
    Either way you look at it, they are trying to get the conversation away from their actions and place the blame on you.

    • @HadesHatredEdge
      @HadesHatredEdge Před 2 lety +54

      I saw a tweet when a guy who works at McDonald's proposed to his girlfriend who works at the same place. Some guy was in the comments asking about how much money he made. Despite them both having jobs and all the crap about equality, people are fine with defining men's worth by how many zeroes are in the their bank account. Imagine women complaining about being objective but aren't outraged when half the human population is reduced to money.

    • @miltonmerlo4103
      @miltonmerlo4103 Před 2 lety +41

      The irony is that women are precisely those who promote it. Proof of that are the tiktoks, Onlyfans, the thousands of photos they post on instagram, facebook...

    • @SirCalculator
      @SirCalculator Před 2 lety +21

      @@miltonmerlo4103 True. They objectify themselves.

    • @jonathangrayson9626
      @jonathangrayson9626 Před 2 lety +4

      As they usually do, no accountability for their own actions. But hey, that's women for ya

    • @jdsartre9520
      @jdsartre9520 Před 2 lety +16

      For not wanting to be objectified, they sure put their objects front and center on display to be ified.

  • @iMmunashe
    @iMmunashe Před 2 lety +71

    Been here since day 1 and it's amazing how consistent you've been with your work. The quality has greatly improved as well which is a testament to your work ethic. Great stuff my guy

    • @iMmunashe
      @iMmunashe Před 2 lety

      @AtheJbaka pfff broo I'm from way back before the FaceandLMS vids... I'm talking about the FORUMS my G. Wish FaceandLMS would get back to making vids again tho...

  • @alanlilly77
    @alanlilly77 Před rokem +7

    This is the best explanation of online dating I've ever seen. Thank you for educating all of us!

  • @chericoffman6321
    @chericoffman6321 Před 3 měsíci +4

    The only way to win the game is not to play.

  • @mfriedrich2012
    @mfriedrich2012 Před 2 lety +116

    In this context, the word “dating” should now always have sarcastic quotes around it.
    An all-attention, sexless, simpish “foodie call” is not a date.
    A sex only, pump and dumpy “bootie call” cannot be euphemistically described as a “date” either.
    Unless you are a female, of course. Because then euphemisms always come in might handy.

    • @GGWP-nx3kn
      @GGWP-nx3kn Před 2 lety +8

      Indeed. There are simps who pay for what Tyrones get without lifting the little finger. The term „dating“ refers to both cases, as there is no in-between any longer.

    • @prettyboyjeremy
      @prettyboyjeremy Před 2 lety +5

      Seriously I hate Foodie calls so much.
      Sure the food is awesome but a $60 bill and a thank you is not what I was expecting

    • @bigbanknewyork3655
      @bigbanknewyork3655 Před 2 lety +18

      It's a "date" for Chad except it's straight to his bedroom. The foodie call is 2 hours before with the 5'8 average guy simp who unknowingly paid $200 for her dinner and for Chad's dessert she brings him at 11pm.

    • @bunnystrasse
      @bunnystrasse Před 2 lety

      Foodie call?

    • @SeviathTheHumanDrago
      @SeviathTheHumanDrago Před 2 lety +3

      @@bunnystrasse It's when a woman asks you out, or gives you the opportunity to so you can go on a date and she can get a free meal out of you for nothing in return.

  • @deathwish_bigboss
    @deathwish_bigboss Před 2 lety +120

    You'd have to hire private investigators every time you need to vet a woman for potential long-term dating, I stopped counting the times they used fake/old photos of when they were 10 years younger & 50 pounds lighter.
    I'm not joking or exaggerating btw, I remember one chick showed up to a date at the park and obviously I didn't recognize her. She walks up to me, we talk for like almost an hour about how crazy dating is these days and I bring up how she looks nothing like her photos and she admits they're from when she graduated highschool but then says it's okay cause "everyone uses old photos"- even me apparently.
    She seemed sorta offended after I brought it up so I told her my photos are like 2 weeks old and she pulls out her phone to show me my profile, looks it over and says "Wow, you look different in person then".
    Then we go through each other's phones and laugh at how she has like 600 matches or something crazy and I have like 30. She offers me weed, but I don't smoke & we don't bang(she literally offers to go to the parks' bathrooms to do it with me and it grosses me out) so I drive her home cause she wasn't a total bitch to me like other girls.
    We get to her house and she hugs me before she gets out of the car saying "I'm glad I met you now and not when I was skinnier", I'll probably never forget how sad she sounded saying that.

    • @strikingitrich7630
      @strikingitrich7630 Před 2 lety +19

      Why did she say the last line?

    • @deathwish_bigboss
      @deathwish_bigboss Před 2 lety

      @@strikingitrich7630 ; beats me man, but judging by the entire conversation I think she regrets being a hoe when she was skinnier and now that she's not it probably hurts knowing she lost the best time she had to have a real intimate relationship with a man.

    • @selfishbeats
      @selfishbeats Před 2 lety +39

      @@strikingitrich7630 guilt trip.

    • @nicolaslatorre810
      @nicolaslatorre810 Před 2 lety

      Men yall should of just banged at least you would of gotten something out of it.

    • @randomguy4781
      @randomguy4781 Před 2 lety +62

      "I'm glad I met you now and not when I was skinnier", aka, "I gave my better version of myself to other men and now you have to accept the worse of me and if you dont youre an incel, teehee!"

  • @ohmielevisope4237
    @ohmielevisope4237 Před rokem +4

    Guys in these comments thinking that 4 billion women only want the top 1% of guys while ignoring the rest. That is just ridiculous and not how life works lil bro. I guarantee if you make yourself independant, a good mate and stoped being so pessimistic or negative then you will start getting girls as long as you seek them in the right places, some will even come to you.

    • @juiceoverflow
      @juiceoverflow Před rokem +1

      These dudes like to act like nothing is their fault and women don't date them because of some massive grand conspiracy instead of facing the reality that they're just shitty and undesirable people

  • @josepablolunasanchez1283
    @josepablolunasanchez1283 Před 2 lety +4

    Tinder is like a board at school. A Tinder profile is like posting a CV. Unlike jobs, for partner there is no reliable way to know if a Tinder CV is reliable. Add the fact that the algorithm adds a bias due to likes. The problem is that there is no correlation between first impression and a wholesome relationship.

  • @friedrichschnobel4000
    @friedrichschnobel4000 Před 2 lety +260

    The last point killed my mood for today. You are connecting the dots in human behaviour and effects not only in the dating market but also reason how it is applied in other problems. Mankind is doomed because of ~10%, who are selfish and won't comply with the collective group. There is no hope mankind will be able to solve the big issues like climate crisis, water crisis etc., unless by violent force, if we suppose this statement to be true.

    • @donwarren3253
      @donwarren3253 Před 2 lety +33

      Its the Chads and simps fault

    • @novarem9828
      @novarem9828 Před 2 lety

      @@donwarren3253 Lmao gotta wrangle up chads and simps and remove them it's the only way👍

    • @JoeL91939
      @JoeL91939 Před 2 lety +56

      Not solely chads fault.
      It’s at least equally the 80% of women trying to have knife fights to get/keep Chad.

    • @gibraltar0553
      @gibraltar0553 Před 2 lety +16

      Awareness would be enough. We would be too much, so little force needed. People don't care about being aware.

    • @malcolmapplet4313
      @malcolmapplet4313 Před 2 lety +1

      Climate crisis is a hoax.

  • @JoeL91939
    @JoeL91939 Před 2 lety +257

    Hypergamy needs to start being regarded as shamefully immoral and delusional as it really is.
    The game is broken, by everyone (especially women) thinking that they are 10’s.

    • @RobertPaulsim
      @RobertPaulsim Před 2 lety +15

      yeah, like islam do... ;)

    • @eljeffe3120
      @eljeffe3120 Před 2 lety +1

      How are you going to shame women for their base biological nature? Such a system is inherently unsustainable. The solution is on the genetic and eugenic level, but nobody will seriously pursue this for the billions upon billions of women currently on the Earth and their female children.

    • @JoeL91939
      @JoeL91939 Před 2 lety

      @@eljeffe3120 by saying good choices and other sarcasms when they complain about being “cheated on” by Chad and Tyrone.

    • @sushilsharma4202
      @sushilsharma4202 Před 2 lety +34

      Lmao you sound like trying to demoralise a lioness for hunting its preys 😂.
      Hypergamy will exist till the day humans exist until and unless some biological changes are made.

    • @joh_kun5530
      @joh_kun5530 Před 2 lety

      @@sushilsharma4202 In aspects of life where nature takes too much power, mankind takes back control of it violently, and vise versa.

  • @argon-ionite1260
    @argon-ionite1260 Před rokem +19

    Instead of looking for red flags, try looking for green flags. Such as: comes from an environment that supports two parent, loving households; can hold a job they don’t like for longer than 5 minutes; has stable friendships that support the integrity of relationships and believe in happy marriages; uses information given to them to help and not harm. Just a few

  • @siyano
    @siyano Před 2 lety +5

    its simple, dating a person is now a product, you shop for the best, anything that is slightly defective, throw it in the garbage and move on. I had several nice encounter on app where the girl did a unmatch with the most mundane stupid "turn off" that is totally unrelated to the person I am.
    Like, oh you play video games, unmatch. WTF?!

  • @RiniDiamandis
    @RiniDiamandis Před 2 lety +132

    My cousin matched with a Swedish guy on Tinder in 2018. He's a doctor(dermatologist) tall, blonde, v handsome. But they didn't date, were just friends but he really liked her. She dated other guys between then. Well she went to Sweden a few months ago and he proposed to her cos she finally gave him a chance and hearing the story made me go 😞
    I'm happy for them but that's legit 4years while she put him on the back burner for other people.

    • @RiniDiamandis
      @RiniDiamandis Před 2 lety +30

      Hearing them tell the story is like, "everything works out in the end."

    • @bigbanknewyork3655
      @bigbanknewyork3655 Před 2 lety

      Back burner while she increased her lay count from 28 to 68. She's ready for him to BETA BUXX now.

    • @GUITARTIME2024
      @GUITARTIME2024 Před 2 lety +1

      He's a Simp. They wont last.

    • @Sensorium19
      @Sensorium19 Před 2 lety +43

      @@RiniDiamandis The way that people casually either lie or misrepresent the events of their lives is something that endlessly disgusts me.

    • @angelikabrown4247
      @angelikabrown4247 Před 2 lety

      sounds like she couldn't do any better (in her eyes) and settled .
      his mistake is liking her more than she likes him ("just friends" = BS) and taking her back after 4 years. I would've let her come back to me BUT put HER on tge back burner until she proves herself.

  • @roadbone1941
    @roadbone1941 Před 2 lety +50

    I was looking at dating in the 1940s/50s, it's literally the opposite of today:
    1)women were humble/pragmatic (knew their actual looks-value, and seeked out their appropriate looks match)
    2)almost all men were lean and fit and look maxed.
    3)Men were more emotionally controlled (stoic and rational).
    4)Military service/fighting was common, thus confidence was very high.
    5)men were well socialized, nueroric issues were uncommon (akward behavior, social anxiety, cynicism, apathy, etc).
    5)men got high paying jobs right out of high school.
    6)Simping was non-existant. Men (at most) would pay for pin up photos, (even Betty Page hardly made any money nor could get a SINGLE BF or even a one night stand).
    7)Social pressure/physical violence "weeded out" beta behavior. Manchilden or dude-bro escapists, didn't exist.
    Basically today (2020s) is "perfect storm", of delusional women + to many soybeta males (low testosterone).

    • @cameron8056
      @cameron8056 Před 2 lety

      Yeah 1950s was not good for anyone who was not white

    • @nap871
      @nap871 Před 2 lety +17

      I think you've fallen for the good old days fallacy.

    • @hanalala3164
      @hanalala3164 Před 2 lety +3

      You’re delusional if you think betty page cant get ons lmao dudes have always been easy when it comes to casual

    • @matheusGMN
      @matheusGMN Před 2 lety +1

      were did you read that? I read an study which researched what the researcher called "love-shy" men, and one of the groups was 200 men in their 40's, this was in the late 70's so they would've been born just before your time range and grown into it, and there were definitely a lot of non confident, not well socialized men at that time

    • @wyleecoyotee4252
      @wyleecoyotee4252 Před rokem

      Women had to find a husband to support them. Now they don't.

  • @RedPilledFit
    @RedPilledFit Před 3 měsíci +2

    Funny that before this video started I get hit with a bumble ad. Fellas, stay away from dating apps, it is a COMPLETE waste of time.

  • @JettBlast
    @JettBlast Před 2 lety +3

    Your videos are spot on my friend. That is why I stoped playing the silly games years ago. The young men out there need to learn these thing to prevent these issues from affecting them. Great content my Brother! Men do what is best for you and that is not selfish-You are importiant, your time, resources, and money are very valuable don't waste them. Fellows enjoy your youth, health and strength are precious! accomplish your goals...

  • @louislowstress
    @louislowstress Před 2 lety +154

    Great content. Tinder needs to be burned down, just like Snapchat, TikTok and Instagram.

    • @definegaming640
      @definegaming640 Před 2 lety

      ​@Adolfthejewbaka _ If all forms of birth control and contraception were banned, the dating market would correct itself but women would riot in the streets and revolt against society, so we'd be right back where we started

    • @louislowstress
      @louislowstress Před 2 lety +5

      @Adolfthejewbaka _ a bit extreme, but I like the spirit.

    • @definegaming640
      @definegaming640 Před 2 lety

      @Adolfthejewbaka _ Women would never go for this. They would rebel and destroy the last remnants of a functioning society we have. It's too late, the cats out of the bag. Most women have sexually experienced the top 10% of men and they are not going back to average men under most circumstances. The west is done, it's purpose in history is now to serve as a reminder of wat not to do as a society.

    • @malakbrood667
      @malakbrood667 Před 2 lety +16

      @Adolfthejewbaka _ exactly. Extreme conditions demand extreme responses.

    • @younganonymousentrepreneur
      @younganonymousentrepreneur Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@malakbrood667 You guys are just too blind for girls. That's it! Do you guys have any idea how Instagram/TikTok made new millionaires? Despite the silliness of these social media apps, they're a blessing for entrepreneurs and are creating new millionaires every day. But you guys are just too blind for girls to realize how good these social media can be tbh. For me at least, I prefer being rich and getting fucked by the black pill from those apps rather than being mediocre money-wise and still getting fucked by the black pill from those apps. You choose how to deal with it! 👍

  • @BigRobChicagoPL
    @BigRobChicagoPL Před rokem +50

    FYI to guys worried about height, it doesn't matter. I'm literally 6ft9in and nothing goes on in my introverted dating life. Work on yourself, love those close to you, and keep on trucking cause I've witnessed myself how short life can be

    • @Staticshock-rd8lv
      @Staticshock-rd8lv Před rokem

      It matters but for all we know you could be ugly which lowers your overall smv.

    • @Staticshock-rd8lv
      @Staticshock-rd8lv Před rokem +1

      usually, extremely tall people are horsefaced kinda of from elongated body/proportions which leads to an elongated horseface some of the time. 6'2-6'4 ish is like the perfect height for a chad to be. Taller dudes like that will usually have to hypermasculine max cause of their attractive giant size. Basically vikings maxx/ogre max. Overall you don't really have it that bad you have it extremely good face kinda of hurts it but you can take advantage of that height dimorphism thing that is extremely attractive between men and short women. Although your son will be fucked if you choose a short woman(anything below 5'7 like 4'11 to 5'5) no offense to you just fair warning.

    • @BigRobChicagoPL
      @BigRobChicagoPL Před rokem

      @@broadestsmiler Oh absolutely. I also spend about 3 to 4 hours driving a day and I have to sit kind of funny to fit in my car, that definitely does not help. Probably the worst thing for me is sitting at a lecture in Univ/Office for hours in a chair and desk made for average height people. I am an Accounting /InfoSystems major and spending 8 hours parked at a desk this past summer for an internship was a living nightmare. Besides back pain, I also get dizzy pretty easily and my blood circulation overall is kind of mid. But hey I am happy to be me and we gotta honestly make the most of what we got :)

    • @BigRobChicagoPL
      @BigRobChicagoPL Před rokem

      @@Staticshock-rd8lv I don't think my face looks weird or anything, but I've seen other tall ppl close to my height and sometimes you can see the weird faces a little. My worse problem is severe anxiety when it comes to talking with girls I like or large crowds. But I definitely get the whole short girls attracted to tall guys thing. I actually had to reject a 4'7" girl recently, fairly easy to get, but not a lot of substance in a relationship like that, plus every time we went anywhere out in the city a lot of people were staring because of how dumb we looked together. I think 5'11" to 6'8" would be a good partner range at least for me, but I wouldn't go shorter

    • @Staticshock-rd8lv
      @Staticshock-rd8lv Před rokem +1

      @@BigRobChicagoPL good job my boy your sons will thank you a million times over. They will at least be your height or taller with that height requirement. reason most nba players sons are midgets compared to their fathers cause they go for 4'11 to 5'2 5,4 baddies who fuck over their sons height if they do have one. Every 7 footer I've seen or just tall person in general has had a mom at least over 5'7 or at that height(sons always grow taller than their mothers the father is a toss of a coin). I don't really think your anxiety matters that much at 6'9 thats an amazing height you'll eventually just have to experience it and get through it over time. Overall your set if your face isn't bad as you say. I also think you should totally moneymaxx you'd mogg everyone to death and your position as ceo would almost be guaranteed.

  • @askolei
    @askolei Před rokem +2

    Meh, dating isn't worth the effort, and it certainly isn't worth the heartbreak.

  • @SirCalculator
    @SirCalculator Před 2 lety +28

    Pitch Black Pill: even if I find a good girl who loves me. She might never desire me, never crave me. Chances are Ill be the least attractive guy shes been with.

    • @ziyamalik1666
      @ziyamalik1666 Před 2 lety

      If she loves you why would she won't desire you? Doesn't make any sense

    • @SirCalculator
      @SirCalculator Před 2 lety +7

      @@ziyamalik1666 She could love me platonically, love the way Im always there for her, love me as being a good father figure etc. And despite that she might never crave me scxually.

  • @geckojinn1604
    @geckojinn1604 Před 2 lety +53

    Things are never going back.
    Whatever life was for our parents or grandparents, it's never going back. What separates human beings from other life on the planet is our ability to adapt. AND WE WILL ADAPT. The truth is, and this applies to both men and women, is that we must begin the process of redefining what happiness is, because whatever happiness was for previous generations before us is simply no longer relevant to people growing up in the modern world.
    Things are never going back.
    We must adapt. We will adapt. We will evolve.
    Welcome to the future. . . Good luck. . .

    • @maryjack3830
      @maryjack3830 Před 2 lety +13

      Our grandparents cheated on eachother

    • @randomguy4781
      @randomguy4781 Před 2 lety

      id rather hang myself and hopefully be reborn as a chad

    • @rod7177
      @rod7177 Před 2 lety +7

      I hope and pray that you're wrong...

    • @geckojinn1604
      @geckojinn1604 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rod7177 All of existence is in a constant state of flux. There is never going to be a final version of humans nor of human society. Whatever landscape we are currently transitioning into, as dystopian as it may seem, will one day itself be replaced by something even more foreign, even more alien. True "Blackpill" ideology goes beyond notions of romance, it allows us a glimpse into a doorway which leads toward the closest thing the human race can ever know to freedom. One day a small selection of our brothers and sisters will ascend into Godhood, and only then will we begin to understand...
      ...just how truly little any of it really mattered.
      You'll no longer suffer under illusions of fear, you'll no longer desire to.
      #Blackpillundefeated

    • @gman7497
      @gman7497 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree with you.. I'm figuring before I die there will be several fundamental changes in human society that could make things for all of us better or worse. But yeah that traditional concept of a job you have till retirement, college education meaning instant legitimacy, being married to one person for life.. that's probably all fading away. There's gonna be a redefinition of everything, alot of it will have to do with impermanence and uncertainty and we are prolly just gonna have to learn to live with it.

  • @SilvioJ
    @SilvioJ Před rokem +2

    And people laugh when I say I'm retired from dating.

  • @hobojoe357
    @hobojoe357 Před rokem +1

    Gonna be real with you here. I've given up. There's no point anymore. I workout regularly, have a good job, and put myself out there. Women don't give a fuck or whatever. Why should I? It's become a hopeless endeavor. It's a chore.

  • @andrewcruz1931
    @andrewcruz1931 Před 2 lety +14

    I’m 37 single and I would like to find someone. However i never chose to leave the dating market , the market left me . Just gotta deal with it .

  • @mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426

    Tragedy of the Commons for me. Being a Normie and warm approaching, unfortunately I was always beaten by my more attractive friends. Even cold approaching, I would get attention, but get flaked and sometimes rejected. There's better looking and taller men in the clubs/pubs. The dating market became brutal. I just kept playing the numbers game. The rejection/flaking is enough to crush a man ego for good. For me to suceed in the dating market, I had to work extra hard.

    • @pietwitten640
      @pietwitten640 Před 2 lety

      Elaborate on what worked for you please. Lotta men here need that information lol

    • @mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426
      @mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426 Před 2 lety +5

      @@pietwitten640 being persistent really. For every 30 girls I'd meet, 1 would atleast go on a date/ not flake. Its difficult and time consuming. Regularly going out, approaching women and getting rejected all just to get a average/below average woman. I don't know if the juice is worth the squeeze (as no relationship is guaranteed to even last long term).
      But yes the key to dating success as a normie I think relies on strong resilience because you will suffer tonnes of rejection and get flaked on so much.

    • @deltaxcd
      @deltaxcd Před 2 lety +1

      @@mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426 wow you were quite persistent and desperate to do all that work just to find a master who will spend your money :)

    • @mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426
      @mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426 Před rokem +1

      @@mistermoo7602 you've misinterpreted what I said then. I wouldnt say its "dumb luck". Running the numbers game in a cold approach is how I found success in the dating market. As a normie I had to work extra harder in this approach than a Chad would but its not a impossible task. Nevertheless its not a easy task either.

    • @mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426
      @mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426 Před rokem +1

      @@mistermoo7602 well no I don't think there's any cognitive dissonant about it. There's nothing self contradictory about it. I don't like running the numbers game, but I don't see any other method for me to have success in the dating market. I'm not a Chad and never will be. So I will have to work extra harder than a Chad will, as evident if you were to compare my dating life to a Chad dating life.
      Whilst I complain about my condition, I accept it. Such is life.

  • @jakejudy5455
    @jakejudy5455 Před 2 lety +3

    Dating apps are fudamentally flawed. Oversaturation and choice give most men a severe disadvantage.

  • @AwesomeFinish
    @AwesomeFinish Před 2 lety +5

    What's funny is they completely ask for it, KNOWING good and well if the guy says he wants to take things slow it means he wants to hook up and never talk to her again. She'll fall for it every time because she wants that chad, but then blames ALL men when she gets ghosted. It's a viscous cycle.

    • @hanalala3164
      @hanalala3164 Před rokem

      Lmao i didnt know thats what it means😂 fr thanks for telling us.

    • @AwesomeFinish
      @AwesomeFinish Před rokem

      @@hanalala3164 you're welcome 😉

  • @klimtkiller
    @klimtkiller Před 2 lety +89

    another reason the dating market is failing (if not the main reason) is female hypergamy. It’s also why I think the final point is not a good comparison. it’s not just the top 10 of men using the pool of women for themselves, ruining it for everyone...it’s women CHOOSING to go for the top 10% of men, which ruins it for everyone. if women didn’t do this, then the top 10% of men wouldn’t be able to fuck it up like this.

    • @devinisreal9356
      @devinisreal9356 Před 2 lety +15

      Going off of the diagram he showed, if that 10/10 guy got into a relationship with the 10/10 girl and rejected all the other girls. The girls would be left to go with their next best option.

    • @SirCalculator
      @SirCalculator Před 2 lety +24

      They rather keep spending their smv in playing the Chad-might-settle-for-me lottery than investing it into the more stable and less risky long term prospect of staying with a guy in their level.

    • @SirCalculator
      @SirCalculator Před 2 lety

      @Autistic_Incel 🤓 Correct. And ofc they have the right to choose who to be with like anyone has. BUT! What bothers me a lot is, they lack the ability to Plan their lives ahead and be real about their own smv. While every guy around them clearly sees the Chads theyre dating are just playing around with them, they never want to realize it. Instead they go back into their "you go girl" bubble and "reassure" themselves it was just bad luck and will work out next time.

    • @rogerm3708
      @rogerm3708 Před 2 lety +1

      We now have generations of women that are low quality long term relationship material

    • @unicron2109
      @unicron2109 Před 2 lety +10

      It's a bitter pill but women instinctively choose the chads because of their perceived highly quality genes. Sure, the societal repercussions suck but for women to do otherwise would go against their nature.