What I love about vintage car racing is that it's very expressive, you see the car slide, the suspension move and tires sidewall bend, you can feel the forces on the car just by looking at it, something we miss from modern racing, it's like modern cars wear this poker face and go fast around the track without any expressions.
I'm afraid that one of the worst changes to motorsports was the move to radial tires. They're basically better than bias plies all around, they have more grip, stiffer sidewalls, put power down better, wear more evenly, etc. But all of that also means that, compared to bias plies, they're very unforgiving, when you lose traction it falls off in an instant instead of falling off progressively, and they're often very hard to catch a spin because it happens so sudden and there's so little grip recovery when you begin sliding. With bias plies, you can slide a car around all day long and it's going to do it easily and be very forgiving, especially in the start of a spin. IndyCar & F1 were the last major holdouts on bias plies, but they switched over too and, just like every other motorsport, the cars became much more difficult/less forgiving to drive, there were more crashes, and only the drivers with the quickest reactions tend to save spins on the radials. Mind you, I'm a min/maxer, you bet I want radials on my track car cuz I want the lowest lap times(even if it doesn't matter because it's just a track day LOL). But, for motorsport where entertainment matters, radials were a mistake - we need to go back in time to bias plies. Or at least make some radials that work much more like bias plies(we're seeing that in drag racing, there's been a few radial drag tires released that act more like a bias ply slick instead of a radial slick, interesting development).
@@jody024 10 would be insane and cool. However I think TK likely decided that having 50% more wins than anyone else has ever achieved was enough, also I suspect that after his horrible DTM crash which he nearly did not come back from he may be thinking just showing he could still race was enough.
F1 isn't too exciting these days, unfortunately. Too many regulations, rules and restrictions that restrict teams from improving their cars. These rules have given Mercedes a golden ticket for multiple CWCs. You could say that Ferrari had a dominant era during Schumacher's reign, but still.
Man, am I impressed with the power and handling of that Ford Fairlane. That thing was flying and the sound from that big bad boy was awesome. Tom Kristensen's ability to keep from burning up his brakes is a tribute to his driving abilities. I wish that I was there to witness this stuff.
Absolutely some of the best racing to be seen nowadays is found at the Goodwood Revival! Fantastic stuff! Those guys driving the stuffings out those Cortina's and that Remeo were superb! And that Tom Kristensen was driving the wheels off that big Fairlane! Great stuff.
Without a DOUBT Tom Kristensen's one of the best wheelmen of our era. 9 wins at Le Mans and can jump into any old car and still take 1st at goodwood...enough said. Just wish he was able to go for the triple crown cuz we know he kill it lol
The Fairlane looks like a Big Bully amid the Alpha and the Cortinas.....Still that was some truly amazing racing!!..Glad to see the cars on the track and not sitting atrophied in a museum
You might call the car an alpha-Romeo if it was the race-winner - but it was third. The car is actually an Alfa Romeo. Alfa stands for Anonima Lombarda Fabbricca Automobili - in other words, Public Company making Cars in Lombardy, northern Italy. Romeo was an enginneer who took over the company in the '20s.
The driver was doing a good job of keeping the corner momentum without over driving it or using up the tires. The car looked stable and well-prepared. Great racing all over in that one!
Another clip out there of TK wheeling a '58 Thunderbird road racer blowing by folks until the exhaust pipe started to drag and he got black-flagged. That guy can wheel a race car.
Yup, alway fun to watch old F1 clips as the drivers slip, slide and drift around the tracks. Ascari, Moss, Fangio, Carricciolo, Rosemeyer, Seagraves, those guys could really drive.
In Alms ..Corvette C7R has won the last 3 years in a row and the Corvette has dominated over 20 years with a front engine awesome V8 beating mid engine porsche bmw ford gt jaguar aston martin ferrari etc.
This is the kind of racing that keeps me entertained! Drivers actually driving the piss out of their cars and doing it cleanly! Also that old Ford my God does it handle with the best of em! WOW
@@mwhitelaw8569 The Can-Am cars with the FI big block Chevys and Fords. Cars flying down the track, not even sounding like the engines are working that hard.
What an exhibition of great driving and great cars. I can relate to these vehicles as they're from my era; it's so exciting to see. I salute Goodwood and those who risk their valuable cars for producing such a revival of automotive history.
Good Driving by Kristensen considering he'd only done 1 lap the previous day. The Fairlane was obviously set up well, drifted nicely. Good Racing and Driving by all.
DEANOGTO - And it's NOT a Thunderbolt. It is a Fairlane 500 with the High Performance 271-horse 289. Thunderbolts were 427s and were 2-door "post" or sedans specifically developed for drag racing. Search Thunderbolt record for some awesome drag racing cars, even in today's competition...
Partly true Alan, it is a 427-equipped Holman-Moody race prepped 64 Fairlane. Not a "Thunderbolt" though, they were pure drag-racecars. Another one: czcams.com/video/UD48OX1wu14/video.html
that car is a tribute to a galaxie R code which won the british saloon car championship the year prior it was a nascar inspired 427FE that was under the hood
Battleship? In it's day, that was a compact car!!! And on a tight circuit, with the Chevy in front, the HP, it could pull a gap but use up too much track entering the turns. Put the Mustang in front, the tight track would favor the Mustang, and he would be dust off in the sunset.
Wow, I grew up drooling about these cars. Saw many races at Kyalami in South Africa. Saw many a duel like this. The beast was a Ford Galaxy 500 driven by Bobby Oltoff. Great stuff.
that car is a tribute to a galaxie R code which won the british saloon car championship the year prior it was a nascar inspired 427FE that was under the hood
Frank Stippler is the man of the Race! I've never seen a racing driver putting so much pressure on his rival (the red Cortina) and driving at the same time so clean without any touching. Great drive in your wonderful Alfa GTA, Frank!!!
Recall that there were a small number of Shelby Cobras that were built for the dragstrip. Who is to say that some guy didn't convert a Bolt to go left & right? JS.
Perhaps, but why wouldn't he retain the teardrop hood or the headlight/air intakes? Also, the thunderbolts had fiberglass front bumpers and fenders, and final drive gears of 4:44 to 4:57. Yes, you could change all of that, but it would be a lot easier to convert a stock Fairlane in my opinion. But anything is possible. Well I just googled it and all the articles call it a Thunderbolt. Turns out this one is called a Thunderbolt because it was made by Holman & Moody in 1964 from a stock bodyshell to show it to NASCAR. H&M made 100 Thunderbolts in 1964.
Every time I see him race he seems to never push the car until he is open. He seems to thrive in chasing down others and keeps the exact amount of power in reserve to pass quickly, no wasted energy.
Gets to show you the most important performance part is still the driver. Put a multi year Le Mans winner behind the wheel of a car that struggles to corner against more lightweight ones, and watch him run circles around them instead. Fantastic race here.
as someone who had a fairlane like this one but only a 289; 2 barrel, watching him slide around the corners was exactly what i used to do with mine on rallies, it drifted beautifully and for the power plant i had with my four speed i kicked a lot of ass with it and the funny part is one day i found out that one bank of my carburetor was not working properly but it was still amazing for its day. i won a trophy at the drag strip with it in pure stock form and had a lot of fun with it while i had it, would love to get another one like it, i had the sports coupe with bucket seats counsel and four speed with the hardtop verseion with tan interior and gold bronze metallic exterior and it attracted a lot of attention where ever i went.
At least not with the correct parts on it. Bumpers being the easiest to spot. They aren't painted fiberglass. True Thunderbolts were drag cars. Not an easy car to convert for road racing.
What I love about vintage car racing is that it's very expressive, you see the car slide, the suspension move and tires sidewall bend, you can feel the forces on the car just by looking at it, something we miss from modern racing, it's like modern cars wear this poker face and go fast around the track without any expressions.
I am showing my age here, but that is something Cars 3 captured superbly.
It's as if modern racing has been sterilized. All the Blood Sweat and Tears have been scrubbed away.
I'm afraid that one of the worst changes to motorsports was the move to radial tires. They're basically better than bias plies all around, they have more grip, stiffer sidewalls, put power down better, wear more evenly, etc. But all of that also means that, compared to bias plies, they're very unforgiving, when you lose traction it falls off in an instant instead of falling off progressively, and they're often very hard to catch a spin because it happens so sudden and there's so little grip recovery when you begin sliding. With bias plies, you can slide a car around all day long and it's going to do it easily and be very forgiving, especially in the start of a spin. IndyCar & F1 were the last major holdouts on bias plies, but they switched over too and, just like every other motorsport, the cars became much more difficult/less forgiving to drive, there were more crashes, and only the drivers with the quickest reactions tend to save spins on the radials.
Mind you, I'm a min/maxer, you bet I want radials on my track car cuz I want the lowest lap times(even if it doesn't matter because it's just a track day LOL). But, for motorsport where entertainment matters, radials were a mistake - we need to go back in time to bias plies. Or at least make some radials that work much more like bias plies(we're seeing that in drag racing, there's been a few radial drag tires released that act more like a bias ply slick instead of a radial slick, interesting development).
No one could convince me that any professional racing going on today is more exciting than this.
Man this guy is pushing that ford around. What car control.
TK knows how to drive and overtake. He has practiced some, wining the 12 hr Sebring 6 times and Le Mans 9 times while doing so :-)
@@bzdtemp Still sad he didn't try one more time for LM title number 10.
@@jody024 10 would be insane and cool. However I think TK likely decided that having 50% more wins than anyone else has ever achieved was enough, also I suspect that after his horrible DTM crash which he nearly did not come back from he may be thinking just showing he could still race was enough.
@@bzdtemp Yeah thats very likely.
This guy is Tom Kristensen. You can google “this guy” lol.
This is real racing of real cars. I'm 43 from Texas, been a gearhead all my life, and this is the kind of racing that just grabs the soul.
Vintage road racing soothes my soul.. first on race day!!
Driver returns on foot.
@@pontiacfan76 to the top step of the podium!
add a V12 in there with straight pipes and 108+octane racing fuel.
This is like watching Nascar was like in the 60's and 70's. Real cars, with real excitement. If we could only go back...
A million times more exciting than F1!
Manuel Rdz. Ohi agree mate
Well yeah, but anything is more exciting than F1 lmao.
Watched two old ladies o their Gophers in the supermarket that were more exciting than Formula 1 and V8 Supercars
Totally agree.
F1 isn't too exciting these days, unfortunately. Too many regulations, rules and restrictions that restrict teams from improving their cars. These rules have given Mercedes a golden ticket for multiple CWCs.
You could say that Ferrari had a dominant era during Schumacher's reign, but still.
Man, am I impressed with the power and handling of that Ford Fairlane. That thing was flying and the sound from that big bad boy was awesome. Tom Kristensen's ability to keep from burning up his brakes is a tribute to his driving abilities. I wish that I was there to witness this stuff.
imagine seeing that angry wall of chrome in your mirror
Imagine seeing a sedan that size in Europe
Wouldn't get to see it for very long.
Imagine knowing that Tom Kristensen is behind the wheel.
Coolest racing I’ve seen. Blows away Nascar and F1. Pure talent and adrenaline
The way Tom drives that beast of a car is an absolute treat to watch every time!
Absolutely some of the best racing to be seen nowadays is found at the Goodwood Revival! Fantastic stuff! Those guys driving the stuffings out those Cortina's and that Remeo were superb! And that Tom Kristensen was driving the wheels off that big Fairlane! Great stuff.
@1:52 that Fairlane looks like it may eat the Alfa.
@@TheFreshPeddler it did.
I was there in 2013. Best Vintage event bar none.
Big by European standard, your car's were always small no room on the roads to drive or park lol
Without a DOUBT Tom Kristensen's one of the best wheelmen of our era. 9 wins at Le Mans and can jump into any old car and still take 1st at goodwood...enough said. Just wish he was able to go for the triple crown cuz we know he kill it lol
5:50 that is a jump scare noise right there
yep
I was skipping around and didn’t notice it. I’m awake now
The Fairlane looks like a Big Bully amid the Alpha and the Cortinas.....Still that was some truly amazing racing!!..Glad to see the cars on the track and not sitting atrophied in a museum
Excellent way of putting it. Good to see classic race cars in competitive laps!
You might call the car an alpha-Romeo if it was the race-winner - but it was third. The car is actually an Alfa Romeo. Alfa stands for Anonima Lombarda Fabbricca Automobili - in other words, Public Company making Cars in Lombardy, northern Italy. Romeo was an enginneer who took over the company in the '20s.
Alfa not Alpha
These cars deserve to be on the track, period...
@@paulstandeven8572 No worries; Thank you for clarifying
as a corner worker and a driver in our vintage club these videos make me smile and at times pitch a tent.
That big Ford actually looked like it handled pretty well!
The driver was doing a good job of keeping the corner momentum without over driving it or using up the tires. The car looked stable and well-prepared. Great racing all over in that one!
@@jtknapp3261 If that really was a dual quad 427 it's even more impressive!
@@bradfordeaton6558 .IT was !!! ............drive-my.com/en/test-drive/item/2280-1964-ford-fairlane-thunderbolt-driven.html
Another clip out there of TK wheeling a '58 Thunderbird road racer blowing by folks until the exhaust pipe started to drag and he got black-flagged. That guy can wheel a race car.
Big Ford? It's an intermediate Fairlane. It just looks big compared to those puddle jumpers trying to catch it.
Great driving, from all of them; those guys probably couldn't stop smiling for a week
I could watch this kind of racing all weekend, who needs F1, F1 is an absolute caricature of its former glory!
Insolent Stickleback In a way I agree but the F1 was much better and more entertaining in the 80's and 90's and the V12 engines were fantastic!
Yup, alway fun to watch old F1 clips as the drivers slip, slide and drift around the tracks. Ascari, Moss, Fangio, Carricciolo, Rosemeyer, Seagraves, those guys could really drive.
So much more entertaining than FI
@@TheButcher83 Today F1 would be old school fun. If the tires today would only be 1/3 on the tire width of tires today.
HE...Makes American Race Cars GREAT AGAIN!
In Alms ..Corvette C7R has won the last 3 years in a row and the Corvette has dominated over 20 years with a front engine awesome V8 beating mid engine porsche bmw ford gt jaguar aston martin ferrari etc.
So...
Its got tyres about 3x wider, and 3-4 x the engine size, and yeah! He can outrun lotus cortinas.
@@studio-flash l
@@sugarnads beating them in the corners and not to mention the hp/ton rule they have. They have the same power to weight
America has had at some point , great cars....... but it was never a great country, lol
The Fairlane sounds like a ww2 bomberplane. Love it.
Second time I watch this. Still much more entertained than any F1 race. Superb racing.
Agreed, more exciting than F1. Really great driving ,power slides, excellent work men.
What a drive! Especially since the car was new to him.
And the fights was so tough and fair, very exciting! Racing at it's best.
Have you ever seen an angrier Alfa Romeo?
Never!!! That thing is sex-on-wheels.
Only with Giovanardi vs the Audi eheh
Yes, in the days of late 80s, early 90s DTM.
With Alfa reliability, aren't they all angry?
Look at that big ford go lol 😂👍👍👍👍👍
Which, if anything, goes to show that lightweight does not always matter
beware...my friend.of the 427 8 thumper.
@@user-ml6hf6fp5f they are 17 & 1/2ft long... Little definitely ain't the right word! 😂
@@user-ml6hf6fp5f Guess I'm going off the length of my 61 fairlane, it's 209in. long.
@@hermantinoherman5319 Just like the 427, stay thirsty my friend...
Very nice track and love the old Detroit metal with those big beefy tires running through those lovely corners.
That Ford looks so big compared to all the others yet he moves with such agility.
Absolutely brilliant racing from the Alfa and Cortina drivers. They really trade blows during the laps.
that was some amazing racing
Indeed.
Oh how I miss those days when a day at the track was so much fun!
This is the kind of racing that keeps me entertained! Drivers actually driving the piss out of their cars and doing it cleanly! Also that old Ford my God does it handle with the best of em! WOW
Watching this video; my lady asked if Godzilla was taking a nap in our house. That smooth demonic tone of that v8.. I miss large n/a engines.
Couldn't agree more
How about an injected Lola?
Now that was a beast!
They don’t make ANY cool cars anymore....
@@mwhitelaw8569 The Can-Am cars with the FI big block Chevys and Fords. Cars flying down the track, not even sounding like the engines are working that hard.
Look at all those bonnets bouncing around and all of them drifting on the edge of grip! This is real racing!
No high tech stuff, no million dollar teams, no record breaking speeds... pure good old racing. What a spectacle!
Great job on the Ford 👍
...oh but that Alfa Romeo is sooo cool.... 😁✌️👍👍
The driver in the Alfa drove great.
What an exhibition of great driving and great cars. I can relate to these vehicles as they're from my era; it's so exciting to see. I salute Goodwood and those who risk their valuable cars for producing such a revival of automotive history.
So much fun watching these old cars race. Love it.
This is the best kind of racing. Love the controlled slides. Super exciting
This is driving at its best... Goodwood R&R is fantastic to watch. Loving it!!!
Good Driving by Kristensen considering he'd only done 1 lap the previous day. The Fairlane was obviously set up well, drifted nicely. Good Racing and Driving by all.
Stifler came in 3rd! It's good to see that Stifler has found work after graduating college in the American Pie movies.
the thunderbolt has such as awesome engine note
DEANOGTO Agreed, like the biplanes buzzing Kong
DEANOGTO - And it's NOT a Thunderbolt. It is a Fairlane 500 with the High Performance 271-horse 289. Thunderbolts were 427s and were 2-door "post" or sedans specifically developed for drag racing. Search Thunderbolt record for some awesome drag racing cars, even in today's competition...
Partly true Alan, it is a 427-equipped Holman-Moody race prepped 64 Fairlane. Not a "Thunderbolt" though, they were pure drag-racecars. Another one: czcams.com/video/UD48OX1wu14/video.html
All those cars have
that car is a tribute to a galaxie R code which won the british saloon car championship the year prior it was a nascar inspired 427FE that was under the hood
Wow, I really enjoyed watching these beautiful classic race cars whip around the track, I actually was excited 🤯
You can't race with a battleship sized car, says who..............
99rsk I've seen a 64 Impala that beat a 64 mustang on a really tight circuit.
Battleship? In it's day, that was a compact car!!!
And on a tight circuit, with the Chevy in front, the HP, it could pull a gap but use up too much track entering the turns. Put the Mustang in front, the tight track would favor the Mustang, and he would be dust off in the sunset.
REAL CAR for A REAL MAN that is.sure enough the universe is as good as the driver....a kind of a man that dont have kids insecurity.
That is no bigger than a 1st gen Mustang. The other cars are just go carts.
@@vector6977 about 2 feet longer... Same size as the Impala
Grew up with the FE Ford, properly tuned hard to beat, love the sound and what a great looking car, well driven too!
Wow, I grew up drooling about these cars. Saw many races at Kyalami in South Africa. Saw many a duel like this. The beast was a Ford Galaxy 500 driven by Bobby Oltoff. Great stuff.
Spectacular!!!!!
In America, the Thunderbolts were known as legendary drag cars. However, these were absolutely one of the best track cars Ford has ever produced.
Man O War .... I saw two original Thunderbolts at an all Ford car show in Nashville recently. Amazing cars!
No they were absolutely not. This one is a completely different Version of the 64 Fairlane, built by Holman-Moody CA USA
that car is a tribute to a galaxie R code which won the british saloon car championship the year prior it was a nascar inspired 427FE that was under the hood
Ford power is number 1. Early sixties Fords are my favorite so I love this.
Frank Stippler is the man of the Race! I've never seen a racing driver putting so much pressure on his rival (the red Cortina) and driving at the same time so clean without any touching. Great drive in your wonderful Alfa GTA, Frank!!!
Next year folks,hang on to those tickets! Glorious!
Love the way that Ford is thrown around the turns. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Love the whole class.
Thats not a Thunderbolt that was a Drag car only this is a Fairlane and a cool one for sure looks big compared to these europeon cars.....cool race!
I was going to say the same thing; the Thunderbolts would not do well on a road course!
Recall that there were a small number of Shelby Cobras that were built for the dragstrip. Who is to say that some guy didn't convert a Bolt to go left & right? JS.
Perhaps, but why wouldn't he retain the teardrop hood or the headlight/air intakes? Also, the thunderbolts had fiberglass front bumpers and fenders, and final drive gears of 4:44 to 4:57. Yes, you could change all of that, but it would be a lot easier to convert a stock Fairlane in my opinion. But anything is possible. Well I just googled it and all the articles call it a Thunderbolt. Turns out this one is called a Thunderbolt because it was made by Holman & Moody in 1964 from a stock bodyshell to show it to NASCAR. H&M made 100 Thunderbolts in 1964.
@@mchume65 also, the drag cars where 2 door post sedans.
Yes, and completely different roof line. This was a Fairlane 500 hardtop or a 500 Sport Coupe, one or the other.
That Ford sounds like a plane 😎👌
Amazing cars, amazing racing, love the classics,
I grew up watching these cars, Lotus Cortinas, Alfa Guilias and the big Ford Galaxi's. Just fantastic. Loved it.
Where has this channel been all of my life?? I'm enjoying racing again for the first time in at least a decade.
Dont no why this popped up on my feed but a watched it all. What beautiful cars and great racing.
That car just screams "GET THE HELL OUT OF MY WAY!"
Goosebumps watching that this morning! Excellent racing
Kristensen's car was huge compared to the other cars, but he drove it so amazingly, like a Mini Cooper lol
Real racing!
Thanks for sharing that. That is a proper car race.
Tom Kristensen still is a driver, that is superhuman. This guy is beyond anybody but maybe Walter Röhrl.
This is racing! Skilled driving all around, and it was impressive how the small, 4-cylinder cars held their own with the Ford.
Every time I see him race he seems to never push the car until he is open. He seems to thrive in chasing down others and keeps the exact amount of power in reserve to pass quickly, no wasted energy.
So awesome to see these beasts throwing it around the track!
Never smiled that much watching racing. Great great stuff right there.
Really entertaining. Absolutely wonderful.
Great Car and driving too. Thumbs Up Liked also.
This is real racing with mechanical grip and not aerodynamics.
It had aerodynamic in that 64
Phrogge Prof Not nearly as much as nowadays though
Amen Rob. Amen.
Nah, real racing is with horses and riders. Not these new fandangled automobiles and their "engines".
This is vigorously Amazing!
This is amazing!!!
Driver skills and the car set up, on a rail, new Sub!
Gets to show you the most important performance part is still the driver. Put a multi year Le Mans winner behind the wheel of a car that struggles to corner against more lightweight ones, and watch him run circles around them instead. Fantastic race here.
Yep, it's the man not the machine!
@@luciusvorenus9445 I don't know about that. I think, the machine has a wee bit to do with it as well.
Wow! What a race! Thanks!
This dude is my hero
Not a dude. A legend!
as someone who had a fairlane like this one but only a 289; 2 barrel, watching him slide around the corners was exactly what i used to do with mine on rallies, it drifted beautifully and for the power plant i had with my four speed i kicked a lot of ass with it and the funny part is one day i found out that one bank of my carburetor was not working properly but it was still amazing for its day. i won a trophy at the drag strip with it in pure stock form and had a lot of fun with it while i had it, would love to get another one like it, i had the sports coupe with bucket seats counsel and four speed with the hardtop verseion with tan interior and gold bronze metallic exterior and it attracted a lot of attention where ever i went.
Beautiful 😍😍
Jim Clark used to run off and hide in his huge 427 CID full sized Ford Galaxy...
Beating the Jaguar saloons..
Not a Tbolt, but still love it being able to do well on a track.
At least not with the correct parts on it. Bumpers being the easiest to spot. They aren't painted fiberglass. True Thunderbolts were drag cars. Not an easy car to convert for road racing.
That's American iron right there. 💥💪
And TK danish super driver behind the steering ;O)
Yes, these races are far more engaging than NASCAR. Those old American tanks are a handful.
So much more entertaining than any modern racing series.
Could you imagine if he got into an accident with one of the Mini's lol!? It would be like an average size car getting hit by a bus !!
This type racing is sooo much more exciting than any modern racing. What a fresh change.
Brilliant driving, having a car that size under control, not to mention the power/weight rules they have. Brilliant racing!
Fantastic race 👏👏
I like how they give each other respect and room to race without destroying each other's car's. Classy racing is the best.
Brilliant drivers in beautiful cars. Real Dogfights, real racing, real fun. Wonderful.
What a marvelous pass
Great driving
Love the big V8 sound! Nothing else like it!
This is awesome
Love, love all of these cars. Hate to see any of them lose
Love these races!!
Love that Fairlane, and the driving!
So amazing to see these old cars going at it
Nice driving! Especially in a car that big! All credit to him. Terrific entertainment!
Great car and great pilot. A lesson of how to drive a big car. excelent video.