I love metal minis. I know people complain about chipping, but if you varnish them properly and take care of them, those paint jobs can last for life. Companies like Alternative Armies and Ral Partha that still make metal miniatures keep something I love about this hobby alive
I still have fond memories of the big wall of blister packs at my local hobby shop “Twin Suns” I’d spend ages on a Saturday morning making important decisions about what I was going to buy and then gloop paint onto so thick you couldn’t tell what it was underneath anymore. Simpler times
I will play along and call you Mathew for the moment. As for the child, the three year old should have been detained & isolated, once the lead poison had ran its course and the child was deceased, then a crafting scalpel should have been used to open the child's abdomen and then carefully remove the Lead Dreadnought; As for the child's cadaver, it should be laid to rest in the grounds of a Games Workshop and a Lords prayer read, followed by a fitting Warhammer 40k Space Marine quote, marking & honouring the child's sacrifice! For is it not said "Only in death does duty end!". To lose a lead Dreadnought is to high a price to pay.😔
I especially loved Bob Olley's Ogryns in blisters. The weight was impressive and the models are full of character. I have quite a few of them running along my old Catachan metal miniature army, and I even have some in unopened blisters which I scored from ebay. I haven't had the nerve to open them yet.
You really nailed it with this love for metal figures. My friends and I call "lead" a precious metal. In 87, I collected Orks because everyone else was into Marines. I love Marines too, but I couldn't collect both. Now, these past couple of years, I've been on a Rogue Trader Marine buying spree. And it's been so fun. I'm even using some of the vehicles in our games of Horus Heresy. ❤️ my metal models. 😊
Still have my 2nd/3rd ed Blood Angels Army, all the assault marines in metal, metal death company, tech marines, Terminator assault squad, couple of terminators that are metal. I still use the left over bits of foam from them as padding in some of my storage for more recent games there was so much of it. Still have a bunch of unopened Dark Eldar blisters i got given for free when a local hobby shop closed, sadly the 3rd ed army they would have gone with was given away back in the early 2000's
I wasn't alive back in the 80s, so I have no contemporary experience with Oldhammer. But I have been collecting a number of older models, where they could be acquired cheaply. I got a really good deal on a set of 3 metal Drukhari models (an Archon, a Wych, and a Helion). Mostly because the Archon was missing his claw arm, and the Helion not only had no flight stand, but had the plastic rod broken off in the hole. The Archon took a bit of creativity, but I already had a spare 3rd ed Kabalite arm. Plus the blade off a power sword from the modern Kabalite kit. The Helion, meanwhile, I glued the bottom of his glider to a frame of cut up sprue. As I'd taken to using chunks of plastic sprue in the basing for my Dark Eldar, as if buried and rusted metal conduits. The sprue jutting up from the ground had multiple contact points, to bear the combined weight of Helion and glider. Working with the metal models was definitely a different experience than working with the plastic Drukhari from the same period. The details were so much sharper. I never really had much interest in metal models before, but working with these made me appreciate their "character". The way the details were clearly hand sculpted, including the individual strands of hair. I'm thinking of grabbing some more to add to my collection. The Beastmaster has a neat design, that has much the same aesthetic as the Helion, which I really liked.
I think the greatest ever metal terminators made, was the Inquisitor, with the bionic leg and combi needler, and the order malleus Inquisitor with psycannon, I remember seeing that, painted purple in a white dwarf, it was glorius, the original captaiin was a close 3rd though, he was amazing in space hulk, so mines still based to match the board, but I have a 2nd one, I plan on giving the old goblin green, drybrushed 2nd edition base to match my 2nd ed army.
Hadn’t heard about baking soda, I always used tiny bits of paper towel to create immediate bonds with super glue. I remember buying the one-part IG models in-store to play games if I was short a squad or such. Putting a bend in the slot-tab meant not even needing glue for securing the model to its base, lol. The 2nd ed Goff Skarboyz and Chaos Terminators are probably my all-time favorite minis, with regular CSM and pretty much all dreads of that era a close second. I still have a nostalgic bias for the “over the shoulder” heavy weapons of 2nd ed Marines, especially the missile launcher.
@@Miniscape-wh40k it’s always nice hearing everyone’s tips and tricks for the old stuff! Speaking of paper towels, I still put tiny little pieces (no glue) in tank sponsons and turrets to give just enough friction so that the weapons can move but won’t droop or flop around freely. Also, just in case you’ve never seen it and might have use for it, Mr Hobby makes a metal primer that’s perfect for reducing paint jobs chipping. There’s brush on and spray can versions. I like to apply it and then prime over it as usual, and the paint doesn’t chip or rub off like it otherwise can with metal minis.
I love them for the weight and premium feel, but the lack of detail, dynamic posing and of course paint chipping made me opt out of metal minis forever. I'll never go back even for nostalgia, but I am happy to watch others renew these old models.
Lack of detail? There's still a lot of microdetail on these GW metal minis that they can't replicate with modern plastics and overall I would say the level of detail is better. It's a matter of taste, but even just technically there pros to metal minis that cannot be replicated with plastic.
@@MiniatureMasterClass It’s clear then you haven’t looked at metal models recently. Tell me one plastic miniature that has the level of crisp micro detail that the 1993 Daemonslayer models have on their runic axe heads? There simply isn't any, that's a fact.
Scored myself a metal inquisitor in terminator armor (from ‘89) with a combi-weapon and cybernetic leg off eBay. My second metal mini along with a librarian in term armor that got his left arm sawed off so he could be properly inducted into the Grey Knights. Even without the nostalgia the detail is great and the weight makes them extra cool.
There's just something about the mood of these videos on retro model collecting that really hit a nerve in me. It's like... I dunno'. They feel like "home"? Or as being back in time when things were much easier and much more difficult at the same time? Right in the feels man.
I love metal as well. I bought Rogue Trader when it came out and the box of plastic beakies. Never got to play it and somewhere along the way I lost both the book and the marines. Probably thrown in the trash during one of my gaming purges, pre Ebay. Now I have a copy of RT again and some 2e era Marines and the Orks. I just need to find someone into classic 40k which is not easy around here. Great channel.
I remember I had a cool Librarian with an axe raised over his head, he had a helmet which you didn't see much on librarians, had a old plastic sprue with a pistol and one of those flimsy back banners.
I still have that one but he's currently not in active service. At some point in the past he was unfortunately requisitioned by the Mechanicus Ordo Paint-schemicus and is now very much decked out in non-codex compliant gear colors. Should probably strip the paint and let him join his younger brothers one of these days. xD
Bout 60-70% of my old eldar army used to be from blister packs, the ones that caused me financial stress as a teen were wraith guard and seer council members. I had almost a hundred of each, that should give you an idea on how many points I'd play over a weekend.
I love metal miniatures, nowadays I focus only on 4th to 6th ed Warhammer Fantasy models, I like the system they had in that era where the core troops were nice modular plastic kits and everything else was metal. I do have some 40K metal models as well, some from back in the day when I started the hobby in 1998 and a few older ones like 3 Rogue Trader era blisters of Terminators, 2 with the claws, 2 with the launches on their back and one blister that has one assault gun armed and one storm bolter armed terminator. The other stuff is random metal marines, like Legion of the Damned etc from around 3th and 4th ed 40K plus some of my old metal orks from 3rd ed 40K. For now I'm focused on my fantasy projects which will occupy me for years with the level I want to do them at, currently I'm working on my dream army of purely 6th ed Tomb Kings for which I have enough models for around 2500 points, although I'm still missing a few metal units from that era. I'm also buying up models for a purely 5th ed Vampire Counts army and a Dwarfs army with mixed 4th, 5th and 6th ed era models. For now I don't have the time to do a retro 40K army, but I'm hanging on to the old models I have from those eras, I think I will end up doing at least a 3rd ed Orks army and a 2nd and/or 3rd ed Space Marines army some day, but let's see. :) For me I'm finding the best deals for these models on a local Finnish miniature trading group in Facebook and some deals in local auction or trading websites, the latter ones can be really good as those sites have people selling who don't know the worth of the models necessarily. I have bought once from Ebay and once from a business trading in old models, but those are usually very expensive, have horrible shipping costs and if coming outside of the EU I also have to pay VAT on top, for example I bought the Tomb King with a Great Weapon that I didn't have from back in the day from TrollTrader and all said with shipping, VAT and customs fee it came to almost 50eur for that one model which is quite ridiculous, but hey I had to have it. :D I've found very great deals as well though, a few which would have gone 10x the price in Ebay for example. Anyway, apologies for the long comment which no one will likely read, I'm just very passionate about these old models and doing these childhood dream army projects now when it's possible for me. :)
Old orks were always my favourite as a kid, even still now they just look so dumb and goofy how can you not love them lol. Went on ebay recently and managed to get 10 hormagants, 10 termagants, 3 original goofy warriors, 3 of the second variant of warriors, a hive tyrant and 3 ripper swarms all from 2nd all metal, I can experience the pain of the good old days.
I also miss the metal minis. I have a few from my youth mostly chaos space marines and some Empire from fantasy, but sadly as a poor kid I don't have many.
I know they wouldn't, but imagine GW made a separate game just built solely on nostalgia called "Warhammer 40,000: The old worlds" and it's basically just oldschool rules and reprints of oldschool models. Great for enthusiasts like me and old army collectors like you.
OH no, let the old 40k lers knock down some plastic ones =) in that big universe everything can happen? i hope some day i will arive at our shop for a play with my old space marines ;) what a fun that will be to see them winning?
I have been slowly painting my second edition CSM that i never painted as a youth. I finished my metal Abaddon which was my most fabulous model as a kid and the one i never thought i would paint because i could never do it justice. Next up are my RTB CSM with conversion beamers because I never see them anywhere. I also have an old metal Kharn still in the blister that i keep trying to convince myself to open up and paint but the pain of breaking open that packaging is real.
Didn't have a GW store where I grew up but we had a hobby store, was always exciting to see what was coming out and the people at the store always gave us the heads up on what was coming soon. The shop had a wall of blister packs, I remember having to ask the owner for scissors to cut them off the wall, they were chained up to prevent people from stealing them. Favourite blister packs, mostly elves from 5th/6th edition, white lions, exectioners, wardancers! I lost touch with 40k midway through 3rd ed.
Man I loved the metal models but was allergic to something in the white metal. Used to have to wear gloves to even handle them unpainted but it was worth it
I really loved the Eldar aspect warriors, swooping hawks was the first blister pack I bought. Before I got 40k, I loved Ral Partha and other role playing game minis as well. There was just so much to see at the hobby shop back in the day.
Believe it or not, there was a time when a blister pack would have 4 or even 5 metal minatures in them for £3.99, ahh the days when GW was all about the passion of nerds with no corporate greed.
I managed to get that Terminator Captain and the power armoured captain years after I saw them painted as Space Wolves in the painting guide that came with the Space Marine Paint Set. But back then I got the Terminator Runepriest and the Ork Wartrak and the Mekaniak with two gretchin. I did also get the Space Wolves Captain but I made the mistake of cutting his chainsword off to give to a Goliath and spoiled it!
I love the metal stuff too. I still have a small necron force from late 2nd, early 3rd ed when their entire range was metal. 2 squads of warriors, 1 squad of immortals, a lord, 2 destroyers, and a load of scarabs. Small force but weighs a ton! Ive also still got a few unopened blister packs- mainly imperial guard (Ogryns, commissar, heavy weapons teams) as ive also got several boxes of IG infantry which are all metal as that's all you could get back then. Currently overhauling all my 2nd ed dark angels including the metal dreadnought and the original ravenwing attack squadron box set with the metal landspeeder. Love the metal!
@@Miniscape-wh40k the metal immortals and destroyers are fantastic, i actually prefer the design aesthetic to the newer ones- they have more of the emotionless-robot vibe going on, rather than the more evil looking newer plastic ones.
It is not as if metal miniatures aren't still made. There are some amazing ones on the market. Some still use relatively high lead percentages. Just don't go to GW for them.
GW should've stayed with blisters, with actual prices probabilly I would'vent never started this hobby, blister packs were more economical in late '80s. One thing plastic is better than metal, converting a plastic mini is way more easy than a metal One, recently I found an old Eldar Banshee, first edition, and converting her with Stargrave 's parts it's REALLY painful (but satisfying)!
I love old models. As a chaos marine player I’m trying to make a full squad of old metal raptors. Only have one complete marine at the moment but I love him.
Funny "my kid ate joke" was that actually a real prank? At the time would have been genius if so. I do love the old metal minis, the only down sides were the weight of an army bag, when they fell off the table they proper broke. A Crisp nd the need for paper clips, drill and glue. Oh and the static poses. But other than that they were ace.
it is not only this video with a special mood some one sayed =) in this one no song but a great animation! Thanks =) it is all those comments, YES i read them ALL i like to read and smile to see all those guys (only?) that like what i like tooooooo even the storys about your models.. greetings to all here! CU
i liked a lot of the old guard pewter models. ive collected a fair portion of the old Armageddon/inquisitor stormtrooper models, as well as a lot of steel legion and sisters of battle ones. Id love to get my hands on the old mordian heavy weapon teams.
I still have a 1997 Death Company box set unasrmbled and unpainted. Some day I will get around to painting it... or perhaps I will spend a few more years staring foldly at it on a shelf.
@@Miniscape-wh40k Yes sir, box and polystyrene insert fully intact. Not cellophane wrapped though. Also have the 2nd ed box of Space Wolf Long Fangs, partially assembled but still unpainted. That's the extent of my Old-Hammer collection... FOR NOW.
I’ve repainted recently Red Gobbo from Gorka Morka. Weight of those old minis is something I always loved. Although big monsters were really annoing with all the pinning and filling.
My favorite blister was the Luicius the eternal one I got at the local GW store. While browsing the walls of blisters I saw that the blister had two sword arms and went up to the counter with it. I was nervous that the guy ringing me up would notice and give me another one or something. But he didn't notice and 15 years later I used that spare sword arm for one of my noise marines a few weeks ago.
This is one of the great benefits of these old metal sculpts. It's so easy to strip them and repaint. Whether you have improved and want a second attempt or you're picking up someone else's old figures to add to your collection. Spindly banner poles are the only real shortcoming of white metal.
@@jamesrichards2442 YES Metal is Metal =) it is the same on old märklin modelltrain Lokomotives, afte 55 years you get them out of the box and they run, and you can repair them by your self... Metal for the Metal Throne! =))
The only blister I bought was on a school trip to london around 2004. It was the phoenix Lord Asurmen in his metal glory. I know people want new skulpts of the phoenix lords and I get why, but for me this miniature means a lot. So it will someday lead my Craftworld killteam.
'Eavy Metal! I'm pretty much 98% sure I have that metal Chaplain in terminator armour... 🤔 I bought many (many) figures in blister packs... the worse ones were the 3 pack metal hormagaunts (of which you needed at least 10 for a squad maybe?). They were very unbalanced and a weighted base was more or less a requirement!
I've got nothing but praise for the current plastic range - certainly makes converting a lot easier - but there's such a magic to those old minis. Not just nostalgia either, I really love the designs that emerged from the limitations of metal - now every mini can be fifteen separate pieces, but when the sculptors generally could only have separate arms and a backpack (if that), and everything else had to be 'flat' - I feel like the best sculptors of the era took that drawback and turned it into a style all its own. That combined with them being made from hand-sculpted originals - I assume the modern ones are digital designs? - they're apples and oranges, I can't say new or old are better or worse, but they're very different. Last year when I was getting back into the swing of painting, one of the first retro minis I picked up off ebay were a trio of the old giant-claw daemonettes, and it was a real surprise how much I enjoyed simply painting them, not even thinking about the final result, but just discovering the intricacies of the old sculpts as I worked on them. That Terminator Captain's one of my childhood favourites - I never got the Terminator box, which I remember dreaming about after I got first edition Space Hulk, but I eventually got him in a blister pack, and still have him, along with a couple of other metal Termis - an assault cannon, a Cyclone, and a regular trooper I recently painted for Olden Demon - alongside the plastic Termis from 3rd edition. They may look comically small compared to the plastic heretic Terminators I'm working on now - never mind the giants coming out with 10th - but they're treasured nonetheless; one of my modest holy grails to get would be one of the first set of metal chaos Terminators.
I remember getting a blister of the Dark Angels captain when I was about 11. No idea where that or any of my oldhammer stuff went between then and now.
Ah yes, the good old metal mini in the blister pack. The good old days. I still have my first mini from a blister from when I started with Warhammer around the release of 4th edition. Good old Ragnar Blackmane. Coicidentally I finished repainting him a few days ago. Blasted model is almost as old as I am.
My favourite was Logan Grimnar based solely on the fact back in the day you had a bingo card and once all 10 stamps were gained by playing games and painting models you could get a free blister. The guy in my local store at the time was not happy when I picked the £15 Logan.
my first pewter model was a stone troll and to this day Pewter has always been one of my favorite minis to paint just to how the paint always settles perfectly in place
Forge World has moved more towards blister packs. 90% of my Krieg army came in blisters. Only exceptions being heavy artillery and tanks. As for "oldhammer" I've been recently restoring a plastic boxnought.
Ahhh I'm so glad I found this channel... I love 2nd edition, and you have inspired me to look into the possibility of collecting my armies based around the 2nd edition set. Im in two minds about what I will do model wise, but I love the new scale of the space marine, so maybe I go down the route of trying to build a 2nd edition army with new marines following the rules for the old codex! Really great work man, I will keep following to inspire myself more!
Great video! Love to see the building process and the extra effort you put in to get the old models to work well together. My favourite models in a blister were either the 3rd edition Terminator Captain or Dark Reapers.
You want to know which blister packs I bought? All of them, AALLL OF THEM!!! ... No seriously, I bought a lot of them. I have for sure about 70 blisters somewhere in a box, not built or painted. But they are a mix of WH40K and Warhammer Fantasy. Most of them are character models or models with special weapons, which were not included in the squad boxes. Compared to nowadays the character models were cheaper in the past, because they came only in such blisters. However, you did not have such a variety in how you could build them, like it is today.
I've got bits for a 2nd Edition Ultramarines force myself, though I'm more limiting it to "things that appear in Chaos Gate". As for blister packs I bought, well... that'd be like 80% of the metal Eldar bits I have.
I agree withbthe pie chart. The nostalgia is strong. I never owned a marine army as a kid, always Eldar and Nids. Always wanted to do an Ultramarine army but after a good read of codex Angels of Death I ended up doing a Dark Angel army and green is not my favorite colour so it is pure fluff. I love the factory fresh look of the 90s more than the grimdark Army looks great
In the early aughts, a friend of mine that worked at a GW store ordered an entire metal dwarf army for me because employees paid by the gram instead of per model. I think it cost me about 60 bucks. Never did wind up doing anything with them and sold them off.
Another excellent video, and deffo stirred some metal memories from mid 90's as a kid. But, can I ask, when you'd fitted the heavy weapon arm, you sprinkled a powder in, what was it/it's purpose? Thanks in advance.
Thanks very much. The powder is baking soda. It forms a stronger bond with super glue than just super glue alone. It's also useful as a filler of small gaps. Hope that helps.
@@Miniscape-wh40k , perfect, cheers. It would seem that 90's me was completely unaware of this. If I'd known, maybe the arms would've stayed on my Ork Dreadnought 😂
I'm far FAR too young to bought any blister packs, I only started my Warhammer journey in like.....2018 but I did start my table top journey buying blister packs of D&D minis (Nolzurs Marvelous minis if anyone knows what I'm talking about)
Welp time to buy some space marine metal figures. I bought some of the early chaos models for my deathguard army and dang they were expensive. Im looking at the three different rogue trader terminators but people want an arm and a leg for them.
Why they ever gave up on letting people have somthing to buy with coffee money il never understand. When you add up all the little individual purchases i bet it made a substantial amount of extra cash they no longer receive. A special weapon armed grunt here, A banner bearer there.. it all adds up. I often used to spend more than i would of otherwise trying to cram in another purchase because i had a few quid left rolling around in my pocket.
WELL not bad stuff i know got tek SPM some place in one two boxes full of the SPMs got lok at the tumataer think got capten and chaplen to shud give back baner no that not right thay do get them so willl see what do ho good casting on the rocet loncher or RL what whas the stuff you uesed ? just have to ask see the nest vid
The problem with ALL metal miniatures is too many fakes! Almost every third metal model that I bought turned out to be counterfeit butleg copies from fake metal! At the beginning of the 2000s, casting copies of Warhammer models was rampant. Now, when such misfortune comes to me, I have to spend my efforts and time to give it to someone. Nobody wants a fakes even for free! Eternal shame to all resellers, speculators and pirates! ... Authenticity is very difficult to determine until paint not stripeed. Even worse, the oldest Warhammer miniatures were made of metal of such poor quality that they were indistinguishable from fakes.
@@fernlenker ii always have the problem i paint em give them a varnish and still the color go off, bad details, sharp corners theat are some of my points
@@Fallindor ah, yes i understand now, a time i gave mine a matt varnish, to save them while transport, may be not the same product brand? and the looked frozen under milky glas *LOL* NO varnish please! that new colors are robust even without varnish! if the varnish shrinks by drying it ripps off when not direktly fittet to the ground greetings from northern germany Stefan
@@Fallindor OH Details, i learned from Modelltrain terain builder, they make Trains look used... the 3 feet away the all impression count's even EONSOFBATTLE now paint like catching the eye with some good details so he does not paint every detail even to save time ;) jay is my "other side" of 40k painter =) well, yes now i can understand you better thank you!
I love that each one was sculpted by a named artist, not copy+pasted together in CAD by an HR assigned committee.
I love metal minis. I know people complain about chipping, but if you varnish them properly and take care of them, those paint jobs can last for life. Companies like Alternative Armies and Ral Partha that still make metal miniatures keep something I love about this hobby alive
I still have fond memories of the big wall of blister packs at my local hobby shop “Twin Suns” I’d spend ages on a Saturday morning making important decisions about what I was going to buy and then gloop paint onto so thick you couldn’t tell what it was underneath anymore. Simpler times
Yes indeed. Good times. Good times.
I love them for their ease of stripping and starting again, takes 5 minutes in acetone, it shreeeds through paint
Agreed
One advantage is because some one had to sculpt it by hand you can paint it by hand.
A CAD multi part model can have parts you can't reach.
I will play along and call you Mathew for the moment. As for the child, the three year old should have been detained & isolated, once the lead poison had ran its course and the child was deceased, then a crafting scalpel should have been used to open the child's abdomen and then carefully remove the Lead Dreadnought; As for the child's cadaver, it should be laid to rest in the grounds of a Games Workshop and a Lords prayer read, followed by a fitting Warhammer 40k Space Marine quote, marking & honouring the child's sacrifice! For is it not said "Only in death does duty end!". To lose a lead Dreadnought is to high a price to pay.😔
I especially loved Bob Olley's Ogryns in blisters. The weight was impressive and the models are full of character. I have quite a few of them running along my old Catachan metal miniature army, and I even have some in unopened blisters which I scored from ebay. I haven't had the nerve to open them yet.
I know the models. I wouldn't have the courage to open them 😅
Love that wall of goodness at your local shop! Wow!
You really nailed it with this love for metal figures. My friends and I call "lead" a precious metal. In 87, I collected Orks because everyone else was into Marines. I love Marines too, but I couldn't collect both. Now, these past couple of years, I've been on a Rogue Trader Marine buying spree. And it's been so fun. I'm even using some of the vehicles in our games of Horus Heresy. ❤️ my metal models. 😊
Fantastic. I also love trying to find those old models.
YES i agree =)
Damn those metal scout were iconic
Best sculpts in my opinion
I love metal minis in and of themselves, but I also love that there was a low price point for a mini.
Yeah that was the dream. Pocket money minis.
Still have my 2nd/3rd ed Blood Angels Army, all the assault marines in metal, metal death company, tech marines, Terminator assault squad, couple of terminators that are metal. I still use the left over bits of foam from them as padding in some of my storage for more recent games there was so much of it.
Still have a bunch of unopened Dark Eldar blisters i got given for free when a local hobby shop closed, sadly the 3rd ed army they would have gone with was given away back in the early 2000's
I wasn't alive back in the 80s, so I have no contemporary experience with Oldhammer. But I have been collecting a number of older models, where they could be acquired cheaply.
I got a really good deal on a set of 3 metal Drukhari models (an Archon, a Wych, and a Helion). Mostly because the Archon was missing his claw arm, and the Helion not only had no flight stand, but had the plastic rod broken off in the hole.
The Archon took a bit of creativity, but I already had a spare 3rd ed Kabalite arm. Plus the blade off a power sword from the modern Kabalite kit. The Helion, meanwhile, I glued the bottom of his glider to a frame of cut up sprue. As I'd taken to using chunks of plastic sprue in the basing for my Dark Eldar, as if buried and rusted metal conduits. The sprue jutting up from the ground had multiple contact points, to bear the combined weight of Helion and glider.
Working with the metal models was definitely a different experience than working with the plastic Drukhari from the same period. The details were so much sharper. I never really had much interest in metal models before, but working with these made me appreciate their "character". The way the details were clearly hand sculpted, including the individual strands of hair. I'm thinking of grabbing some more to add to my collection. The Beastmaster has a neat design, that has much the same aesthetic as the Helion, which I really liked.
I think the greatest ever metal terminators made, was the Inquisitor, with the bionic leg and combi needler, and the order malleus Inquisitor with psycannon, I remember seeing that, painted purple in a white dwarf, it was glorius, the original captaiin was a close 3rd though, he was amazing in space hulk, so mines still based to match the board, but I have a 2nd one, I plan on giving the old goblin green, drybrushed 2nd edition base to match my 2nd ed army.
Tbh I could see a 3 year somehow eating a dreadnaught
Long long ago I bought an Aun-Shi and a full squad or original metal Stealth Suits. I miss old Tau.
Hadn’t heard about baking soda, I always used tiny bits of paper towel to create immediate bonds with super glue.
I remember buying the one-part IG models in-store to play games if I was short a squad or such. Putting a bend in the slot-tab meant not even needing glue for securing the model to its base, lol.
The 2nd ed Goff Skarboyz and Chaos Terminators are probably my all-time favorite minis, with regular CSM and pretty much all dreads of that era a close second.
I still have a nostalgic bias for the “over the shoulder” heavy weapons of 2nd ed Marines, especially the missile launcher.
Good idea about the bend in the tab
@@Miniscape-wh40k it’s always nice hearing everyone’s tips and tricks for the old stuff! Speaking of paper towels, I still put tiny little pieces (no glue) in tank sponsons and turrets to give just enough friction so that the weapons can move but won’t droop or flop around freely.
Also, just in case you’ve never seen it and might have use for it, Mr Hobby makes a metal primer that’s perfect for reducing paint jobs chipping. There’s brush on and spray can versions. I like to apply it and then prime over it as usual, and the paint doesn’t chip or rub off like it otherwise can with metal minis.
@@MasterShake9000 I hadn't heard of Mr Hobby. Sounds good. Thanks for the tip.
Damn that Terminator box brings back some memory's .Used to play Space hulk with the Bro and picked up a set of these .
Sounds amazing. I would love to have gotten one.
I love them for the weight and premium feel, but the lack of detail, dynamic posing and of course paint chipping made me opt out of metal minis forever. I'll never go back even for nostalgia, but I am happy to watch others renew these old models.
Lack of detail? There's still a lot of microdetail on these GW metal minis that they can't replicate with modern plastics and overall I would say the level of detail is better. It's a matter of taste, but even just technically there pros to metal minis that cannot be replicated with plastic.
@@Ethnarches No.
@@MiniatureMasterClass It’s clear then you haven’t looked at metal models recently. Tell me one plastic miniature that has the level of crisp micro detail that the 1993 Daemonslayer models have on their runic axe heads? There simply isn't any, that's a fact.
When I was a kid I must of bought the last line of metal minis of chaos raptors and warriors of khrone. Definitely perfered them over plastic.
I love the metal minis i still have. Something about them. I think it is how they feel closer to the sculptor.
I recommend looking into a mystic forgery or two ;) :P
Jokes aside, it is nice to know people are keeping the old sculpts alive.
😅 cheers man
I bought 3 metal raveners back in the day, they are still part of my Tiranid army
Awesome. It's great when models have such longevity.
Scored myself a metal inquisitor in terminator armor (from ‘89) with a combi-weapon and cybernetic leg off eBay. My second metal mini along with a librarian in term armor that got his left arm sawed off so he could be properly inducted into the Grey Knights. Even without the nostalgia the detail is great and the weight makes them extra cool.
The weight is significant for me. Nice purchase.
I miss the blister packs. Was always nice to drop a small amount on something different and new to paint.
I totally agree!
Half of all my armies are still in GW Pewter
That's what I like to hear!
You would love wargames foundry. Their minis are metal and they carry a lot of out of production citadel minis.
Cheers will have a look
Enjoying this content mate!!
Bringing back those memories!! 🥲
Glad you enjoyed
There's just something about the mood of these videos on retro model collecting that really hit a nerve in me.
It's like... I dunno'. They feel like "home"? Or as being back in time when things were much easier and much more difficult at the same time?
Right in the feels man.
Wow that's so good to hear. Thanks so much for writing that and taking the time to reach out. Do not worry. I have plans for many more such videos.
metal minis are the best! an army of metal models has so much heft, and scooting them across the board is so much better than plastic or resin
Big agree
Until one falls.
I love metal as well. I bought Rogue Trader when it came out and the box of plastic beakies. Never got to play it and somewhere along the way I lost both the book and the marines. Probably thrown in the trash during one of my gaming purges, pre Ebay. Now I have a copy of RT again and some 2e era Marines and the Orks. I just need to find someone into classic 40k which is not easy around here. Great channel.
Thanks buddy
I remember I had a cool Librarian with an axe raised over his head, he had a helmet which you didn't see much on librarians, had a old plastic sprue with a pistol and one of those flimsy back banners.
I still have that one but he's currently not in active service.
At some point in the past he was unfortunately requisitioned by the Mechanicus Ordo Paint-schemicus and is now very much decked out in non-codex compliant gear colors.
Should probably strip the paint and let him join his younger brothers one of these days. xD
@@kristianjensen5877 YES ! let him join his younger brothers
i love the old 2nd edition cadians they used to make im actuellly painting some up now. great video man keep up the work
Thank you. I have some of those cadians as well 😍
That original Terminator Captain is one of my all-time favourites. Great to see some good old metal being worked on again! 😎👍
The captain is a beauty. Hopefully he will be painted soon.
Recently got some metal grey knight terminators and a metal dreadnought
Awesome
Bout 60-70% of my old eldar army used to be from blister packs, the ones that caused me financial stress as a teen were wraith guard and seer council members.
I had almost a hundred of each, that should give you an idea on how many points I'd play over a weekend.
Oh my that is a lot
I love metal miniatures, nowadays I focus only on 4th to 6th ed Warhammer Fantasy models, I like the system they had in that era where the core troops were nice modular plastic kits and everything else was metal. I do have some 40K metal models as well, some from back in the day when I started the hobby in 1998 and a few older ones like 3 Rogue Trader era blisters of Terminators, 2 with the claws, 2 with the launches on their back and one blister that has one assault gun armed and one storm bolter armed terminator. The other stuff is random metal marines, like Legion of the Damned etc from around 3th and 4th ed 40K plus some of my old metal orks from 3rd ed 40K.
For now I'm focused on my fantasy projects which will occupy me for years with the level I want to do them at, currently I'm working on my dream army of purely 6th ed Tomb Kings for which I have enough models for around 2500 points, although I'm still missing a few metal units from that era. I'm also buying up models for a purely 5th ed Vampire Counts army and a Dwarfs army with mixed 4th, 5th and 6th ed era models. For now I don't have the time to do a retro 40K army, but I'm hanging on to the old models I have from those eras, I think I will end up doing at least a 3rd ed Orks army and a 2nd and/or 3rd ed Space Marines army some day, but let's see. :)
For me I'm finding the best deals for these models on a local Finnish miniature trading group in Facebook and some deals in local auction or trading websites, the latter ones can be really good as those sites have people selling who don't know the worth of the models necessarily. I have bought once from Ebay and once from a business trading in old models, but those are usually very expensive, have horrible shipping costs and if coming outside of the EU I also have to pay VAT on top, for example I bought the Tomb King with a Great Weapon that I didn't have from back in the day from TrollTrader and all said with shipping, VAT and customs fee it came to almost 50eur for that one model which is quite ridiculous, but hey I had to have it. :D I've found very great deals as well though, a few which would have gone 10x the price in Ebay for example.
Anyway, apologies for the long comment which no one will likely read, I'm just very passionate about these old models and doing these childhood dream army projects now when it's possible for me. :)
I appreciate you engaging with the channel. I know what you mean about spending whatever for that special miniature.
My dream is to one day own a metal Chaos Dwarf army. But I'll have to win the lottery first.
🤞
Old orks were always my favourite as a kid, even still now they just look so dumb and goofy how can you not love them lol. Went on ebay recently and managed to get 10 hormagants, 10 termagants, 3 original goofy warriors, 3 of the second variant of warriors, a hive tyrant and 3 ripper swarms all from 2nd all metal, I can experience the pain of the good old days.
YES these old Orks seemed to have more fun? theyre looking so like, we do not know what we do, but we can do it all night long *LOL*
Good times.
I also miss the metal minis. I have a few from my youth mostly chaos space marines and some Empire from fantasy, but sadly as a poor kid I don't have many.
If you want some more there's always second hand. It's basically what I did. Thanks for commenting 😊
You should get something like wowstick. Makes drilling into metal minis a breeze!
Perhaps I will😊
Azrael + helmet bearer was easily my fave blister pack mini. Also Fungus the Loon from (I think) Blood Bowl
I know they wouldn't, but imagine GW made a separate game just built solely on nostalgia called "Warhammer 40,000: The old worlds"
and it's basically just oldschool rules and reprints of oldschool models. Great for enthusiasts like me and old army collectors like you.
Mate, I would be all over that 😄
OH no, let the old 40k lers knock down some plastic ones =)
in that big universe everything can happen?
i hope some day i will arive at our shop for a play with my old space marines ;)
what a fun that will be to see them winning?
I have been slowly painting my second edition CSM that i never painted as a youth. I finished my metal Abaddon which was my most fabulous model as a kid and the one i never thought i would paint because i could never do it justice. Next up are my RTB CSM with conversion beamers because I never see them anywhere. I also have an old metal Kharn still in the blister that i keep trying to convince myself to open up and paint but the pain of breaking open that packaging is real.
Sounds great. That's a real dilemma about opening the blister.
I never bought metal miniatures back in the day. I just picked up some old Sisters of Battle metal minis. I was inspired by Oldendemon.
Didn't have a GW store where I grew up but we had a hobby store, was always exciting to see what was coming out and the people at the store always gave us the heads up on what was coming soon. The shop had a wall of blister packs, I remember having to ask the owner for scissors to cut them off the wall, they were chained up to prevent people from stealing them.
Favourite blister packs, mostly elves from 5th/6th edition, white lions, exectioners, wardancers!
I lost touch with 40k midway through 3rd ed.
Man I loved the metal models but was allergic to something in the white metal. Used to have to wear gloves to even handle them unpainted but it was worth it
😬
I recently painted up a rare metal ork genestealer hybrid on my channel and agree metal minis are the best.
😍
I really loved the Eldar aspect warriors, swooping hawks was the first blister pack I bought.
Before I got 40k, I loved Ral Partha and other role playing game minis as well. There was just so much to see at the hobby shop back in the day.
Believe it or not, there was a time when a blister pack would have 4 or even 5 metal minatures in them for £3.99, ahh the days when GW was all about the passion of nerds with no corporate greed.
I managed to get that Terminator Captain and the power armoured captain years after I saw them painted as Space Wolves in the painting guide that came with the Space Marine Paint Set.
But back then I got the Terminator Runepriest and the Ork Wartrak and the Mekaniak with two gretchin.
I did also get the Space Wolves Captain but I made the mistake of cutting his chainsword off to give to a Goliath and spoiled it!
I love the metal stuff too. I still have a small necron force from late 2nd, early 3rd ed when their entire range was metal. 2 squads of warriors, 1 squad of immortals, a lord, 2 destroyers, and a load of scarabs. Small force but weighs a ton! Ive also still got a few unopened blister packs- mainly imperial guard (Ogryns, commissar, heavy weapons teams) as ive also got several boxes of IG infantry which are all metal as that's all you could get back then. Currently overhauling all my 2nd ed dark angels including the metal dreadnought and the original ravenwing attack squadron box set with the metal landspeeder. Love the metal!
I'd love to get my hands on some metal necrons at some point
@@Miniscape-wh40k the metal immortals and destroyers are fantastic, i actually prefer the design aesthetic to the newer ones- they have more of the emotionless-robot vibe going on, rather than the more evil looking newer plastic ones.
I had 3 box sets worth of plastic lizardmen in my teenage years, but I only have 3 of the models left...😢
😥
pleas get them some friends lizardmen love to hunt in groups ;)
there a many out there waiting ! =)
I really miss metal minis. Recently been repainting some old 4th-5th ed dark elves and it's been a pure joy
Awesome 😊
It is not as if metal miniatures aren't still made. There are some amazing ones on the market.
Some still use relatively high lead percentages.
Just don't go to GW for them.
@@dragonwyrmdracodracul8361 genuinely don't know about these companies, if you care to share a few? Even if it's just generic DND stuff
GW should've stayed with blisters, with actual prices probabilly I would'vent never started this hobby, blister packs were more economical in late '80s. One thing plastic is better than metal, converting a plastic mini is way more easy than a metal One, recently I found an old Eldar Banshee, first edition, and converting her with Stargrave 's parts it's REALLY painful (but satisfying)!
Totally agree
I love old models. As a chaos marine player I’m trying to make a full squad of old metal raptors. Only have one complete marine at the moment but I love him.
😍
I have fond memories of them but I'd rather have plastic. The paint used to strip off metal so easily, even if you varnished over the paint.
That was the big downside
Funny "my kid ate joke" was that actually a real prank? At the time would have been genius if so. I do love the old metal minis, the only down sides were the weight of an army bag, when they fell off the table they proper broke. A Crisp nd the need for paper clips, drill and glue. Oh and the static poses. But other than that they were ace.
it is not only this video with a special mood some one sayed =)
in this one no song but a great animation! Thanks =)
it is all those comments, YES i read them ALL i like to read and smile to see all those guys (only?) that like what i like tooooooo
even the storys about your models..
greetings to all here!
CU
i liked a lot of the old guard pewter models. ive collected a fair portion of the old Armageddon/inquisitor stormtrooper models, as well as a lot of steel legion and sisters of battle ones. Id love to get my hands on the old mordian heavy weapon teams.
They come up on ebay from time to time. Always a bit pricey though.
I still have a 1997 Death Company box set unasrmbled and unpainted. Some day I will get around to painting it... or perhaps I will spend a few more years staring foldly at it on a shelf.
Wow. If you still have the box I am even more jealous.
@@Miniscape-wh40k Yes sir, box and polystyrene insert fully intact. Not cellophane wrapped though. Also have the 2nd ed box of Space Wolf Long Fangs, partially assembled but still unpainted. That's the extent of my Old-Hammer collection... FOR NOW.
I’ve repainted recently Red Gobbo from Gorka Morka. Weight of those old minis is something I always loved. Although big monsters were really annoing with all the pinning and filling.
Yeah. Pinning and filing could be annoying.
That is a great miniature.
My favorite blister was the Luicius the eternal one I got at the local GW store. While browsing the walls of blisters I saw that the blister had two sword arms and went up to the counter with it. I was nervous that the guy ringing me up would notice and give me another one or something. But he didn't notice and 15 years later I used that spare sword arm for one of my noise marines a few weeks ago.
A lucky find!
Restoring old minis is very satisfying. I've been finding that fixing broken toys brings a lot more joy than putting together something brand new.
Big agree
This is one of the great benefits of these old metal sculpts. It's so easy to strip them and repaint. Whether you have improved and want a second attempt or you're picking up someone else's old figures to add to your collection. Spindly banner poles are the only real shortcoming of white metal.
@@jamesrichards2442 YES Metal is Metal =)
it is the same on old märklin modelltrain Lokomotives, afte 55 years you get them out of the box and they run, and you can repair them by your self... Metal for the Metal Throne! =))
The only blister I bought was on a school trip to london around 2004. It was the phoenix Lord Asurmen in his metal glory. I know people want new skulpts of the phoenix lords and I get why, but for me this miniature means a lot. So it will someday lead my Craftworld killteam.
Awesome. My mate had an eldar army that was mostly metal. Whooped my arse many a time haha
'Eavy Metal!
I'm pretty much 98% sure I have that metal Chaplain in terminator armour... 🤔
I bought many (many) figures in blister packs... the worse ones were the 3 pack metal hormagaunts (of which you needed at least 10 for a squad maybe?). They were very unbalanced and a weighted base was more or less a requirement!
I had some too. Never stood up.
I've got nothing but praise for the current plastic range - certainly makes converting a lot easier - but there's such a magic to those old minis. Not just nostalgia either, I really love the designs that emerged from the limitations of metal - now every mini can be fifteen separate pieces, but when the sculptors generally could only have separate arms and a backpack (if that), and everything else had to be 'flat' - I feel like the best sculptors of the era took that drawback and turned it into a style all its own. That combined with them being made from hand-sculpted originals - I assume the modern ones are digital designs? - they're apples and oranges, I can't say new or old are better or worse, but they're very different. Last year when I was getting back into the swing of painting, one of the first retro minis I picked up off ebay were a trio of the old giant-claw daemonettes, and it was a real surprise how much I enjoyed simply painting them, not even thinking about the final result, but just discovering the intricacies of the old sculpts as I worked on them.
That Terminator Captain's one of my childhood favourites - I never got the Terminator box, which I remember dreaming about after I got first edition Space Hulk, but I eventually got him in a blister pack, and still have him, along with a couple of other metal Termis - an assault cannon, a Cyclone, and a regular trooper I recently painted for Olden Demon - alongside the plastic Termis from 3rd edition. They may look comically small compared to the plastic heretic Terminators I'm working on now - never mind the giants coming out with 10th - but they're treasured nonetheless; one of my modest holy grails to get would be one of the first set of metal chaos Terminators.
Yeah the modern vs old minis are swings and roundabouts I guess. I would still love to pick up some old chaos marines. One day.
I remember getting a blister of the Dark Angels captain when I was about 11. No idea where that or any of my oldhammer stuff went between then and now.
Lost in the warp maybe
Ah yes, the good old metal mini in the blister pack. The good old days.
I still have my first mini from a blister from when I started with Warhammer around the release of 4th edition. Good old Ragnar Blackmane. Coicidentally I finished repainting him a few days ago. Blasted model is almost as old as I am.
😅 metal minis for the win
My favourite was Logan Grimnar based solely on the fact back in the day you had a bingo card and once all 10 stamps were gained by playing games and painting models you could get a free blister.
The guy in my local store at the time was not happy when I picked the £15 Logan.
Lol, they should have stipulated a maximum price then 😅
@@Miniscape-wh40k oh they did the following week, when my mate tried to claim a £12 Wraithlord. It was now £8. He was not happy with me 😂
my first pewter model was a stone troll and to this day Pewter has always been one of my favorite minis to paint just to how the paint always settles perfectly in place
I get you completely
Awesome work Matthew. Man...that terminator captain is possibly my favourite mini of all time.
Thanks mate. I am glad you liked it.
Forge World has moved more towards blister packs. 90% of my Krieg army came in blisters. Only exceptions being heavy artillery and tanks.
As for "oldhammer" I've been recently restoring a plastic boxnought.
Nice video, bro 👍
Thank you very much
Ahhh I'm so glad I found this channel... I love 2nd edition, and you have inspired me to look into the possibility of collecting my armies based around the 2nd edition set. Im in two minds about what I will do model wise, but I love the new scale of the space marine, so maybe I go down the route of trying to build a 2nd edition army with new marines following the rules for the old codex!
Really great work man, I will keep following to inspire myself more!
Glad I inspired you. Best wishes with your project it sounds great.
Great video! Love to see the building process and the extra effort you put in to get the old models to work well together. My favourite models in a blister were either the 3rd edition Terminator Captain or Dark Reapers.
Thanks mate. I still need to acquire that captain.
You want to know which blister packs I bought? All of them, AALLL OF THEM!!! ... No seriously, I bought a lot of them. I have for sure about 70 blisters somewhere in a box, not built or painted. But they are a mix of WH40K and Warhammer Fantasy. Most of them are character models or models with special weapons, which were not included in the squad boxes. Compared to nowadays the character models were cheaper in the past, because they came only in such blisters. However, you did not have such a variety in how you could build them, like it is today.
70. Wow. Like a goldmine!
I've got bits for a 2nd Edition Ultramarines force myself, though I'm more limiting it to "things that appear in Chaos Gate". As for blister packs I bought, well... that'd be like 80% of the metal Eldar bits I have.
I agree withbthe pie chart. The nostalgia is strong. I never owned a marine army as a kid, always Eldar and Nids. Always wanted to do an Ultramarine army but after a good read of codex Angels of Death I ended up doing a Dark Angel army and green is not my favorite colour so it is pure fluff.
I love the factory fresh look of the 90s more than the grimdark
Army looks great
Thanks mate. I think I would add a new slice to the pie chart now...gets me views on CZcams 😅
@@Miniscape-wh40k well, there is that 😂😂
I still roll with metal
Glad to hear it
In the early aughts, a friend of mine that worked at a GW store ordered an entire metal dwarf army for me because employees paid by the gram instead of per model. I think it cost me about 60 bucks. Never did wind up doing anything with them and sold them off.
Absolute bargain 😁
I bet you're kicking yourself now... 😉
@@D1-Games Eh, I also sold off my mtg cards before they spiked to the point where I could pay off my student loans. Such is life.
I started the High Elf Army of my dreams with a regiment not yet finished of 50 metal Phoenix Guard.
Would you ever come back to them?
@@Miniscape-wh40k Right now im playing Grey Knights in 10th and the guy im playing Warhammer 8th with got no time but i have to return thats my goal.
Another excellent video, and deffo stirred some metal memories from mid 90's as a kid. But, can I ask, when you'd fitted the heavy weapon arm, you sprinkled a powder in, what was it/it's purpose? Thanks in advance.
Thanks very much. The powder is baking soda. It forms a stronger bond with super glue than just super glue alone. It's also useful as a filler of small gaps. Hope that helps.
@@Miniscape-wh40k , perfect, cheers. It would seem that 90's me was completely unaware of this. If I'd known, maybe the arms would've stayed on my Ork Dreadnought 😂
NOW?
Shit, I miss the PRICE!
Lead for the lead god
Pewter for the pewter throne!
mercury for the mercury god !
I'm far FAR too young to bought any blister packs, I only started my Warhammer journey in like.....2018 but I did start my table top journey buying blister packs of D&D minis (Nolzurs Marvelous minis if anyone knows what I'm talking about)
I get you
Welp time to buy some space marine metal figures. I bought some of the early chaos models for my deathguard army and dang they were expensive. Im looking at the three different rogue trader terminators but people want an arm and a leg for them.
Hopefully the item comes with more than just an arm and a leg 😉
Miniscape vs Minidodes 2nd edition collab/batrep PLEASSSEEE!
We are already in talks 😉
@@Miniscape-wh40k amazing, both recent discoveries and I'm loving all the content - big nostalgia and excellent hobbying, keep it up =]
@@finn_english minisodes is the boss. Glad you like the channel, and mine 😄
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@@edpaintsminis yay
Why they ever gave up on letting people have somthing to buy with coffee money il never understand. When you add up all the little individual purchases i bet it made a substantial amount of extra cash they no longer receive. A special weapon armed grunt here, A banner bearer there.. it all adds up. I often used to spend more than i would of otherwise trying to cram in another purchase because i had a few quid left rolling around in my pocket.
I agree wholeheartedly
I bought 40 stormvermin, in blister packs of 3 to 4 minis lol
That's a lot o' rats 😅
I'd be fine with single piece metals, but never again on multi-part metals. They tend to fall apart even when pinned.
Hmm they did have that unfortunate trait
Great video, but the music is a little bit distracting :(
Anyway, I'm going to subscribe!
Thank you.
@@Miniscape-wh40k not god in english, dis is not so liked?
I Like the music when the saxoohone get in and all AND the new Songs even more =)
WELL not bad stuff i know got tek SPM some place in one two boxes full of the SPMs got lok at the tumataer think got capten and chaplen to shud give back baner no that not right thay do get them so willl see what do ho good casting on the rocet loncher or RL what whas the stuff you uesed ? just have to ask see the nest vid
I used milliput
Clean your glue nozzle FFS. LOL. Otherwise great videos. :)
Ha
How much were characters when they were metal?
They're much more than coffee money now 😢
I can't recall. Less than £10 I think. Maybe £8 or £9 but GW prices changed even then.
0:09 the way to write the logo as Warhammer 40,(XX) is really confusing
Well spotted. Never noticed it until now.
OH did not notice yet, i have to look that video again =)
The problem with ALL metal miniatures is too many fakes! Almost every third metal model that I bought turned out to be counterfeit butleg copies from fake metal!
At the beginning of the 2000s, casting copies of Warhammer models was rampant. Now, when such misfortune comes to me, I have to spend my efforts and time to give it to someone. Nobody wants a fakes even for free!
Eternal shame to all resellers, speculators and pirates!
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Authenticity is very difficult to determine until paint not stripeed.
Even worse, the oldest Warhammer miniatures were made of metal of such poor quality that they were indistinguishable from fakes.
i hate metal minis for me they are so bad
OK even that is a good comment =)
a sentece why will help to understand?
is it the material or the height?
CU
@@fernlenker ii always have the problem i paint em give them a varnish and still the color go off, bad details, sharp corners theat are some of my points
@@Fallindor ah, yes i understand now, a time i gave mine a matt varnish, to save them while transport, may be not the same product brand? and the looked frozen under milky glas *LOL*
NO varnish please! that new colors are robust even without varnish!
if the varnish shrinks by drying it ripps off when not direktly fittet to the ground
greetings from northern germany
Stefan
@@Fallindor OH Details, i learned from Modelltrain terain builder, they make Trains look used... the 3 feet away the all impression count's even EONSOFBATTLE now paint like catching the eye with some good details so he does not paint every detail even to save time ;)
jay is my "other side" of 40k painter =)
well, yes now i can understand you better
thank you!
I would go back in time just for the metal chaplain i had
Oh yes