WTF Were Nottingham Forest Thinking?
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- čas přidán 12. 05. 2024
- Nottingham Forest are planning on abandoning the City Ground, which has been their home since 1898, in favour of a 50,000 seater stadium in Toton. This potential move led to protests from Nottingham Forest supporters during their Premier League game against Chelsea over the weekend, which they lost 3-2. The following video will look into Nottingham Forest owner Evangelos Marinakis' options moving forward and what it might mean for their fan base as a whole.
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Ngl, I got quite emotional making this video with all the clips of Clough and Forest fans. Proper football club who have all my respect. Let's hope they remain at the City Ground for years to come! Do let me know if you agree down below!
The price the council are demanding is much higher, but it's a drop in the ocean when considered in context. This is political posturing from both sides. I think we stay at the CG with a compromise somewhere in the middle.
Can buy the land for £10 mill@@corneliussmiff2773
There's more to it than this. Let's just say a conflict of interest may exist. Perhaps you could be the person to shine a light on this as we already worked out you can't be sued in India. Give your mates at FFTV a call for the lowdown.
Hope they keep their original stadium and just expand thats what every club should do
Won't be happening Uti... it's just a bargaining tool for Forest against the council. Turns out they can buy the freehold for The City Ground for £10M and that's what's going to happen... Club can then plan the ground expansion without being held to randsom by the council.
Loool that person holding up the scarf in front of the camera at the end of the video is me 🤣🤣🤣
Hello Simon. Excellent work. COYR
Simon its me 😎 it cannot be both of us please do t piss on my parade son 😎
Moving grounds would absolutely kill the atmosphere and support for Forest. After all...
🎶'my desire is always to be here, oh city ground'🎶
Agreed Uti, it's one of sports iconic venues. However today the council offered the site to Forest for £10m, so we'll see..
It's unfortunate! Football in England is starting to lose its soul. The Premier is trying to emulate American sport franchises: all flash and showmanship. The actual sport is almost secondary. And, all at absorbatant costs to the fan base. Don't let this happen. English football is special.
According to the Athletic, we can buy the land for £10 million, should go for that option
Purchasing the land makes sense, as anything then invested in new stands belongs to Forest.
That's great, 10 Million, but then you have to apply for planning permission from the council which will not be given straight away. So the council would have their £10mil and Forest would have a piece of land they can't build on.
@@CylindermasterPlanning permission would also be required for a new stadium and would be harder to get than for an extension of an existing stadium. I'm sure that both the future expansion of the City ground and what Forest would be changed in property rates will be part of the purchase negotiations.
@@Cylindermaster Dont know where to start with this nonsense
🤣🤣 Great video as always Uti. I’d love to see Forest expand the City ground but with the constraints of its location and the delays and red tape to go through to get anything done, we might have to look at moving. Toton is definitely not the place to go as it’s too far out of the City centre area and there’s much better places closer to where we are now 🔴🌳
I struggle to believe that anyone that wants us to move to a Pride Park with red seats is a genuine Forest fan. In fact I know they're not.
As a lifelong Gooner, leaving Highbury was real a wrench. But it was impossible to extend the old stadium due to the confines of houses, streets and the main stand having a preservation order due to its looks and marbled halls.
But move, we did. Money talks and the more revenue we get in, the more we can spend on players.
And the old stadium is still standing. It hasn't been turned into a shopping mall. Even from the air, looking at google maps, it still looks like a football stadium. Even if the pitch has flower beds, hedges and concrete paths 8-))...
*#COYGsince66*
Forest new ground is not going to hold 60k and we are not as a big a club as Arsenal. I know you mean well, but its a daft comparison. And not being unkind but, what have you won since you moved?
@@TrickyTone873 Fair points
@@TrickyTone873 We've won 2 FACups and a Charity Shield.
OK. Not great but we had to pay off for our move meaning that we had huge constraints on new signings. We're not like Man. City whose owners had an open cheque book. Hence we don't have over 100 financial irregularities that were deliberately hidden from the FA.
But we've now paid for the stadium so it's time for lift off.
But my post wasn't comparing Forest with Arsenal. It was my feeling of leaving Highbury to move to the new stadium.
I'd love Forest to stay at the City Ground as much as i want the World Snooker Championship to stay at The Crucible. History is so important with these iconic venues. Unfortunately money drives absolutely everything nowadays and if they can extend it where it is, great, if not, i fear a move away from it may be inevitable.
But an extra 10K ST sales is minute in the bigger scheme of things.
Well said PK
The thing is to establish in the EPL Forest need to increase their revenue stream and the City Ground is so tightly constrained on all sides that it is almost impossible to enlarge to footprint of the ground. And unfortunately (and I mean that) revenue stream really dictates how successful a club can be in this EPL/Sky nightmare that we all seem to live in.
10m is cheap asf but only offering 4m for it is laughable
I'm torn to be honest, I drive past the city ground everyday on my way to work and home again as I go over Trent Bridge, and I can't imgine the ground not being there, but that being said, we do need a bigger ground, but not Toton for goodness sake! ..Personally I would love us to stay at the city ground and find some way of significantly increasing the capacity.....As I always say, the city ground is like my lovely lady, a bit rough round the edges, but dependable, has given me so many great memories and I love her so much!....COYR!
Actually the City Council have offered to sell the land for 10 millionish,peanuts in real terms….It’s beginning to feel like senior figures at the club are gaslighting us fans,and really want to move despite the wishes of the vast majority of the fan base.
Forest sbould expand the current stadium to 50000. Need to fill the corners in . Fuck the club shop taking space in one of the corners.
Interesting video. Nice job.
Thank you very much!
Thank you very much!
Thank you very much!
The club haven't let anyone down, it's called negotiating
TWFCG always ! COYR!
Move it to Hyson Green, where they have the Goose fair, it's already got the name the forest, could only imrove that shit hole
Arthur come on soon watch your language there are young i.pressionable kids read i g this you silly kunt 🔞🔞🔞😎
It's all posturing
Loving the reference to a certain team's inbred fans 😅😅😅
Would love to stay at the city ground, but as the city council is playing hardball, I think Forest are right to at least pressure them with a serious other option. Now we have a 10M buy option? So if true didnt take long to get progress
torn. The City Ground is iconic and hard to beat for it's throwback traditional atmosphere- but it's also desperate, no hot water, toilets broke, catering non league...We need to try everything to stay, turn the pitch around...anything. But never Toton lol
sock of the woke brigade moaning about no water ?wtf are you do geri.g each other's anus 🔞🔞🔞 why the obsession with water your go i g to see football ffs give your heads a wobble ps if your all that desperate clean your fingers with lidl wet wipes o ly 70 pence there fixed it for you ya bunch of queens 🚾🚾🚾🚾🚮🚮🚮🚮😅😅😄😄😃🤣😎
I was confused for a minute where Totten was but then I realised it was Toton! It sounds like "toe" (toʊtən). It's still nearer to Nottingham than Derby and the parking would be better but it wouldn't be the same. I guess a new stadium could eventually help with Prem stability.
I've just Googled it and it seems that the club have the option to buy the freehold from the council for around £10m and end the rent dispute that way. Sound pretty reasonable, if they actually wanted to stay.
why do they call Nottingham forest ground the city ground it's not in the city it's outside the city.
One of their old stadiums was called the town ground, which was located just across the river in the city (pretty damn close to where Meadow Lane is now) and when Nottingham gained city status is was renamed to the City Ground. It wasn't long after this that they moved across the river to their current home and they just decided to stick with the name.
Up until the local government reorganisation of 1974 it was within the city boundary. Rushcliffe which is now the district was not formed until 1974 so for the majority of its life it has been on the city and that is why the City Council own the land.
@@facelessnomore Yep.
Not really correct about that
In reality in when the ground was being built Nottingham was given city status, hence the name@@corneliussmiff2773
Tom Carteledge is a tory land developer, he couldnt care less about heritage or history only money.
Your great Uti
Thank you my friend!
Thank you my friend!
Been a fan for over 50 years we need a new stadium the city ground isn’t fit for purpose I’d like to take my family we cannot get tickets time for a new stadium. The council where the city ground is will not allow extensions to the other stands time to move
Poor effort. Back to Derby with ya traitor,
Mmm of course you have. Baaaaaa!!
Ah the days when the fans stood on the Bridford end were 'sheltered' by nothing more than the Shitstones scoreboard / advert hoarding while I lorded it in the comfort of the old Trent End shed.
Anyway fwiw here's my 1p conspiracy theory and something I've felt ever since as much noise started emitting from the boardroom as it does from A block on a winning matchday. In the beginning I genuinely believe the club wanted to see the WFCG developed in line with the renders published a couple of years ago with all the fine words which accompanied them. And the fans brought into the dream.
But since the change in Chair a new more combative tone has emerged with the club enthusiastically taking a pop at anyone seemingly frustrating the march to future glory. Putting aside the well covered spats with the PL/PGMOL which I totally get, though have resulted in nothing but soiling the clubs reputation for fair play, something the previous Chair said would ALWAYS be front and centre, we now have the current 'who did / didn't do what' spat with the City Council.
No idea who is right or wrong but why make it a public showdown unless the club think it somehow puts pressure on the CC to come to strike a more advantageous deal. If so the messages should be conveyed in private between the involved parties.
I think you've hit the nail on the head Uti. I think the Forest Board, with PSR nonsense still raw, have redone their sums on what elevated income is needed and what more can / cannot be tolerated by ticket prices (already a sore point for next season) and have belatedly concluded they'll never make them stack up at the WFCG. Perhaps the planning process for WFCG redevelopment already undertaken only serves to underpin that conclusion? Whatever, I think it is the club abandoning plan A in favour of plan B - in new stadium for their longer term aspiration. Why they can't be completely open with the fans despite having previously assured them the future is at the WFCG I don't know - egos perhaps? If the latter then using faceless public servants employed within the CC as a convenient body to blame huts no individual but certainly helps the clubs transition to where they now need to be - income wise.
Personally, while the WFCG embodies the history and sentiment which means so much to so many I can think of few clubs who wouldn't sacrifice all of that, if in the eyes of the owner and club management it posed a material threat to progress despite the fans not wanting it. Whenever were the fans THAT important? It's a damn risky strategy though so I hope i'm pishing in the wind.
All that said, I don't suppose there's many plastics miss Maine Road these days assuming of course they can remember that long back - and they could always install some fogging machines at one end and start them up as MoK comes on or sub Diesel fumes from the loco maintenance sheds for mist if they opt for Toton! (pronounced Toe-ton btw).
Keep 'em coming Uti!
PS: Bonus 👍for the Sheep description!
live from the toe rag stadium in toton its notts forest they got relegated in 24/25 and now they are fighting for survival in championship today's bottom of the table clash against Milton Keynes sons crowd 6,453 thanks for coming 😄😃😃😃😎
And lo and behold, the next day they come out and effectively admit plan A and blaming 'the city council' was a smokescreen and Plan B - New Stadium has been the owners preferred option for some considerable time having redone their sums.
Of course that's their prerogative but the more deceitful statements from the club become the greater the gap between the club and the fanbase grows. A huge miscalculation on top of those already made in many other areas. I think the time will come when they will regret the actions of the last six months of taking the fans for fools.
Losing that loving feeling.
AGAIN Its a labour majority ruling. Best get used to this.
It’s unfit for purpose. Too many houses behind the Bridgford Stand for expansion there, hence the ugly ass (stupid) roof. Poor facilities within the ground. It’s done it day. Time to move. COYRs
Marinakis has bought the houses behind the Bridgford end. They'll be knocked down during the expansion
Nigel doughty bought quite a few aswell, all in the name of forest I believe@@BrianPinas9
@@BrianPinas9 really? That’s great news!
Guess you'd be happy to share Prideless Park. Geez, they call themselves fans,
Toton is a nice area, just too far away. There's plenty of football pitches near Beeston Marina. Should move there
Too close to Derby for me 🤮
Stupid comment
As a forest fan we need to move on
Do we though?
@@corneliussmiff2773 Never, it would be a travesty.
@@corneliussmiff2773 I think its so hard to get a ticket for a game the City Ground cant get much bigger . so move to a new ground get more cash and the only reason the top clubs ground's are Saul less is the plastic fans . Or stay at the City ground never get planning permission season tickets keep going up as Forest know that someone will always want to go
Expand the current ground to 50000. One new stand and expand the other 3 stands
But where were all these extra fans of ours when we were in league one and back in the championship, I've personally been going away games for last 20 years not been away game in premier,cant get tickets
As a forest fan I welcome the move. Time to get serious if we want to progress
Yep, think we should build a 90000 seater stadium in Strelley.
The fact you have to say you're a Forest fan shows that you are not. Nice try Baaaaa!
@TrickyTone873 I am you thick cunt. Born in St anns now live in bingham haven't been able to get a ticket for a few years now. Never got a season ticket as I work away all the time but would like to get down to the games I can get to so stfu you absolute tool of a boy. New ground is coming and you can go fuck yourself. City ground is the past time to move on and shut up boy.
@@TrickyTone873 Give away isn't it?