How BAD was Greg Oden Actually?
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- čas přidán 26. 03. 2023
- Greg Oden is largely known as one of the greatest busts in NBA history, but that does not do his story the justice it deserves. Today we cover the ups and downs of one of the top prospects of the 2000's.
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Aaron Craft did it all at osu mr. Hustle
Also osu all time steal leader i believe
Then stunted 😆
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@@miles5175 he was so fast fr he was like a bug out there 😆 seeing him stand by mantu bol priceless
Something on Jeff Green would be interesting, lots of ups and downs for such a high pick.
Michael Beasley or Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf get my vote,
Greg Oden was never "bad" he just couldn't shake the injuries. Some players get an unfair label of being a bust when injuries prevented them from reaching their full potential
Adam Morrison gets the same label when it's crystal clear that the injury during his rookie season sabotaged his career
Can't have it both ways
Yeah, he wasn't that bad, he just beat the eff out of a female repeatedly. That's all.
I can never say a player is a bust when they have injury issues and never understood how people can tbh.
Morally yes… but it’s a bust you didn’t produce
exactly these people dumb asf
@@DwayneM-sr4bm was Len Bias a bust?
From the perspective of the Blazers and their fans, that number 1 overall draft pick was a bust. Not in the same way as a guy like Kwame Brown that was just a total scrub, but the end result is the same: a number 1 overall draft pick that ended up producing very little value.
@@TheTyronecus len bias was a tragedy
The story of Greg Oden is one of the most heartbreaking stories in nba history
I really appreciate the time you put into writing these and not forgetting the human element of the players involved
Glad you enjoyed man, thanks for the support!
Portland really had horrible luck with Oden and Roy having such promising careers derailed by injuries. If healthy, they could've been the core of a contending team for many years. Going back further, they also had Sam Bowie and Bill Walton hamstrung by injuries. And there was some political BS, along with injuries, that kept Arvydas Sabonis from joining the Blazers until he was well past his prime. Put a young healthy Sabonis on the late 80s-early 90s Blazers, who made 2 finals without him, and they probably would've been a dynasty that rivaled or surpassed Jordan's Bulls. Portland has been cursed by circumstance more than any other NBA team.
agree and they're still cursed. 11 years of an all-world scorer in dame + nothing to show for it.
Portland is now just horrible.
The city
OK Roy was somewhat unlucky but Oden was an injury case from the start, even in high school
Sam Bowie 84?
@@carltonbanks2865 That was just a bad pick. He was fantastic as a sophomore, missed 2 full years due to injury then was a shadow of his former self his senior season
In the NBA he had more injury problems. He was actually better than Oden when he played and had a longer career
Greg Oden’s legs were on the Brandon Roy fast track. He could’ve been generationally great if not for misfortune. He’s not a bust.
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tbh the videos were so good i thought he stole them lmao
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I remember reading somewhere that Greg never had a knee or even a leg injury throughout his highschool and college career, it wasn't until he was drafted by the Blazers and given specific shoes with lifts to make his legs the sake length and started training with them that his injury troubles started. One has to wonder how much of an effect those sneakers had on his legs and whether it was even necessary in the first place since he became the best prospect in the country without needing corrective shoes and was healthy up till that point besides a minor wrist injury in his senior year in highschool
Greg Oden is not really a bust. Dude was great in the games he was able to play before his unfortunate injuries. Dude never even had the chance to show how good he was because of the injuries.
A draft bust is a highly touted or highly selected draftee who does not meet expectations.
even when he played he wasn't quite as good as he was hyped up to be, like the hype was that he was going to be the next dominant big man, but he didn't really have the offense for that, and he fouled way too much. Still a promising player, but kind of disappointing even before all his injuries.
@@erikwirfs-brock2432 Stamina was the other big issue. Could not play 35 minutes a game
And he was awful in the games he couldn't play, which was most of them. BUST.
@@eduardopena5893 If he remained healthy I can see him evolving into a Tyson Chandler level of player which is pretty good
More likely an Erick Dampier level of player which is not bad
But in reality he had a less successful career than Greg Ostertag, those are the breaks
When I lived in Columbus, I saw him downtown (he was out of the NBA at the time), some overweight girl wouldn’t leave him alone. He gave me a “help me” look so I ended up buying him a drink and acted like we were old friends so she’d go away. We talked for a minute.. nothing crazy(super nice guy) but was one of those bro code moments I’ll cherish forever
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This was Great! Thanks for posting
Man keep up the great work, you're already on par with the top basketball creators on CZcams with the sick ass editing, you're miles ahead of your subscriber count.
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He’s not a bust. He just injured a lot. If he’s healthy he full do great things
What do you think a bust is?
@@saveyabreath680 I think the negative connotations because of players that ended up sucking can lead to that hesitancy
@@Maloman05 definitely people seem to be convinced that being a bust means the player sucks
A draft bust is a highly touted or highly selected draftee who does not meet expectations.
@@HogEnjoyer perfect description
Great video. This is why I watch this series would like a video on Yi Jianlian
This channel is great , wishing you growth and success !
Can we get one on Amar’e Stoudemire? He was my fav PF growing up lol
Preciate that man, he’s been on the list for awhile, will turn that stone eventually forsure. One of my guys as well
We wish well for Greg!!! Hope he finds happiness & peace
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Could you do a video on Jonny Flynn? I feel he was another guy that could've been good if his body held up. Love ur videos btw my guy
Might at some point that’s a good idea. Preciate your support man thank you!
Good idea 2k10 legend, i feel everybody made a Greg oden video its tiresome
The micro fracture surgeries apparently were what messed him up. They took cartilage from another part of his body and put it into his knee. Studies have shown the cartilage placed into his knee isn’t nearly as strong as the original knee cartilage so is more so just a temporary fix until he puts too much pressure on it again
That's not how microfracture works. Microfracture is drilling holes into your knee to build up scar tissue that is then a substitute for cartilage. It is a temporary fix. It is also about 50/50 success rate. Some guys have come back from it, others didn't.
The process you are talking about is what they do now, where they inject cartilage from chicken or cows in your knee and that is also temporary and doesn't seem to work as well.
These videos are incredible.
Preciate that man thank you
Great video man.
Thanks man!!
Oden was a dawg. If he had stayed healthy, could easily have been a top 15 center of all time
This poor guy. You could see it coming. He looked 45 when he was 18
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Lol 😂 right
Lol. I remember they used to call him Lebron's daddy
I recall him being pretty good when he was able to play.
Great video. As a Blazers fan, I remember well how promising Oden was looking before that last knee injury.
Great video! I have been a life long spurs fan, and I remember the justified hype of oden coming into college and then the draft. I’ll admit I was jealous of Portland getting to draft him because he looked like he was the next great big man has always been my favorite part of basketball. He also always seems so genuine and light hearted but a hard worker which is just a recipe for greatness. This was not a “bust” story. This was a huge loss for nba fans, for the city of Portland, and for a young man that deserved better. I hope he has truly found his happiness and a place to live a balanced life. Here wishing him all the best!
Good video.
What's the song that starts playing in the background at 5:58 ?
I remember ESPN showing some fact that when Oden actually played, his efficiency rating was quite good. It’s a shame we didn’t get to see him actually develop.
Asa Blazers fan, the Oden story is sad- and one I know well. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
I never thought he was as a Bust. He’s just one of those rare stories of a great athletes career that is sidelined by injuries. He was a DEVASTATING defensive presence in the paint.
See no one says that about Adam Morrison when his injury was obviously what did him in
Injuries are part of the sport
Except he couldn't stay on the court. That's a big problem. Doesn't matter how great you are if you can't play. Portland drafted him to be the man. He was a bust.
Blazers got such bad luck 😭
Great vid
Thanks man
Thanks for the fair handed tribute video. Greg was a good player when he was on the court. Those saying he was a bust are just repeating the narrative.
Great job on the video.
PS I also don't think Kwame was a bust either but that's another topic altogether.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
He was one of those unfortunate players that his body won't cooperate, he could have been one of the best big man to ever played the NBA
Me and dad who passed away always rooting for this guy, We're so excited the blazers got him.
Solid video. Could we get a Luis Scola video?
Not sure abt that kinda hate him lol
Me screaming to the heavens “he wasn’t his knees were!”
Damn, I never saw the "Im taking my Crutches to South Beach" Meme. I Laughed hysterically,😂😂
I used to work at a dispensary in Columbus and he went there. I remember having him as a customer and he was really nice as fuck. I had his signature for five minutes on a receipt. Lmfao
dang never knew about the pics and the battery charges. geez
This is why it's critical that ball players, especially big men, do more than just strength training.
I Think Blazers team with LMA, Oden, and Roy is one of the big What Ifs in 2000s
I never thought of Oden as a bust. He was very sympathetic in my eyes. I think he could have been a big star if his body hadn’t given out.
Though, there’s no way at all to defend the domestic abuse. But, i do think that was the result of the spiral that he went down.
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Yeah he's one person I don't consider a bust, he's just tragic. The little time he did get on the court "healthy" he was a monster. It just didn't go his way, shit happens and its a shame it happened to such a nice quiet dude.
People call Bowie a bust all the time and it's basically the same story. He was pretty good when he played and he had a better career than Oden by any measure
What's the intro song?
Oden was gonna be TOUGH! I remember watching him play in college at OSU and he was DIFFERENT. Really a shame he couldn’t stay healthy
Great college player for O state. Unfortunately he caught the injury bug early and it derailed his career
He was great player that had career cut short would like to see what he could of done. Just like Zion hope he gets healthy and gets to play.
Sad Story Man
Guy Had All The Attributes But Health ugh
I still feel the Portland medical staff from this time needs to be investigated. I felt like no one there had cpr training much less medical .
We’re not all dealt the same hand but when he shot two free throws with his off hand and sank both against Florida I was a fan.
you should make a vid about underrated foreign nba players who carry their national teams
I really like the Trail Blazers when I was in high school during 2007 to 2008. I feel so sad that team with all those young talents.
That block against TN still haunts me
When your a guy that’s so humble, your more conscious of what people think and are more considerate of others, the media made it harder for him to fight through his injuries rather than motivating him since he never thought he was the best player in the world.
Was he considerate of his girlfriend whose face he pounded on repeatedly?
I’d honestly totally forgotten this guy existed.
Substitute BAD for UNLUCKY in the title of this video. There's a fair chance if he stayed healthy we'd still be saying he was the better pick over KD.
Thank you for Giving Indiana the credit it deserves.
In 49 states it’s JUST basketball…not the case in Indy.
Indy's underrated man
Oden was a beast in college and showed so many flashes as a pro. He just couldn't stay healthy. He was absolutely deserving of the number one pick. At worst number two after Durant. It's a shame he never got to show what he could do. Because he was really really talented
You should do one on Dajuan Wagner from. Canden NJ
I wish he will be a college coach, I believe that, by his demeanor now, it will be the best fit for him. Such a kind fella, so sorry for his misfortune! but you know, as per the ending, he got some money out of the NBA, he still wants to work and build a legacy so nothing to be sorry about, only thinking forward! Wishing nothing but good luck to the big fella!
His landing after the dunk was really accumulated i think. he did it from his high school days. Even tried to do it in his last days in Heat.
Greg Oden, what a good kid he was. Never complained about his fate, just kept trying. Kid wanted to be a dentist--what teenager wants to be a dentist? But his huge size pushed him toward basketball. TBH, with the huge hands he has, he probably couldn't be a dentist. What a twist of irony--surely there's a dentist out there who wishes he were tall enough to play ball. I can't help but just feel bad for him. He definitely got a fate he didn't deserve.
imagine healthy oden aldridge roy, and if you add damian lillard. bruh. that would be multiple champhionships. the best what-ifs.
Wild to think about but no way they get Dame if all those players were healthy lol
I never saw him as a generational talent. Massive, physically imposing but skill level left a lot to be desired. I think his agility was overrated. To me he was a bit lumbering and had to load up to explode. Didnt have much of an offensive game outside of power, and a left shoulder jump hook. Shaq he wasnt. He didnt even process the game that quickly so he could've been doubled. Statistically and in terms of impact I think he would've been closer to peak dikembe than a p. Ewing.
Not sure how old that sound clip is, but it makes me sad to hear that he thinks people think of him as the biggest bust of all time. Anyone who knows the first thing about his career or basketball in general knows that’s not the case. Poor guy’s body just betrayed him
If he didn’t get hurt he could’ve been the best big in the league
He looked like he was 30 in college. His body was 40 by the time he hit the nba with all the HS and AAU miles on a frame that was clearly aging faster than normal. Maybe he had a growth defect issue?
Back to Hinkle Fieldhouse for Greg. Greatest High School Big man my 84 year old father has ever seen.
Feel bad for Oden. I was very happy to see him in a commercial during the NCAA tourney recently
Dude was in his mid 30’s in middle school. It’s no surprise his old knees fell apart so early into his NBA career
This is honestly so sad as a sports fan. It was brutal how the media treated him
Makes me cry, wish him happiness, many ppl eouldnt handle the journey he had, got his dream crushed
And so did his girlfriend's face. I don't wish him well at all.
@@eduardopena5893 ahh didn't know that my mind changed
@@jalenmcintyre1660 It is near the end of this very video, man.
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What baffles me are the people saying he cant be a bust he just injured. Did he perform? No. We dont leave in dreamland and base history on the million what ifs that could happen.
He bullied joakim Noah in the ncaa ship. Injuries ruined him, he was a great player
Amazing to hear he’s doin better after I seen dat video on tik tok of the old lady askin him if he hoops shit made me feel for him bc I could see his pain. This life is Shit is something else’s.
I remember when he went before Durant, I couldn’t believe Portland helped Seattle so much (well what they were)
I think the drinking probably had something to do with his body failing him as well maybe if he could’ve gotten help around that time things would be different but, around 2007… the late 2000s in general, nobody cared about mental health you were labeled as “crazy”
Fr. I remember we used to joke about "crazy" people like Britney Spears, but after I found out what she really went through I felt ashamed of myself. Poor woman had her life ruined by a family who only leached money off her.
David Robinson offensively, bill Russel defensively with almost a shaq kind of physical intimidating. In other words if not injured Oden would’ve been a top 5 center all time
I will always respect Brandon Roy for his reaction to Oden going down…
Sadly I think we're about a year away from a Jonathan Isaac video on this channel.
Let it play out a lil bit first
I dont think he was bad when he played. Granted his production was that of a top 10 pick. But if he was healthy he could of easily still been playing today.
Best Center prospect since Patrick Ewing what is Shaq chopped liver
Such potential, lost to a body that just quit. If he had stayed 2 more years (but this is '05 Greg Oden we're talking about, wasn't gonna happen), he could at least have made the College Hoops HoF. What makes this sad to me is that both KD AND Mike Conley would wind up having better NBA careers
Do jay Williams next
do james wiseman next
I don't understand how anyone can label Oden a bust when there's players like Ben Simmons, who has the talent to be a top 10 player but has 0 desire to play or improve. Guys like Thabeet, Kwame, Olawakandi, etc. may not have had the skill required to be good in the pros, but at least they tried, which is a whole lot more than Ben Simmons does. To me Ben Simmons is hands down the biggest bust of all time and it's not even close.
Perfect example of peeking to early and ruined by injuries
When everyone brings up what ifs Oden is one of the biggest ones I think of, the dude was legit and without injuries his future definitely looked so bright
Greg Oden wasn’t bad. His knees were.
after watching a bunch of these vids its sad to see a lot of mens mental health issues being brought up. sucks to see no matter where you are in life it affects anyone no one deserves to feel like, stay strong kings ps vids are fire
Couldn’t agree more man, thanks for watching
The Blazers were 52-10 in games when Roy, Oden and Aldridge played together. They had a legit chance to become a dynasty had Roy and Oden stayed healthy :/
He Wasn't Bad, But I Can't Say The Same For His Brittle Knee's. It's Sad To Know That Injuries Ended A Career That In Reality Never Got The Chance To Shine.
I know it's f'd up but that 'I'm taking my crutches to south beach' meme killed me!
He seems like such a nice guy in real life. I hate what happened to him. He deserved to have a great NBA career.