How BAD Was Josh Jackson Actually?
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- čas přidán 27. 02. 2023
- Josh Jackson is widely known as one of the biggest busts in recent history. After being taken 4th overall in the 2017 draft, he has failed to maintain a spot in the NBA G League in 2023. Today we cover the many ups and downs of Josh Jackson.
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i completely forgot josh jackson existed. I remember him being one of the big names in the 2017 draft alongside tatum, fultz, and fox, and lonzo. I never knew what happened to him.
I remember that I was on 2k17🤣
Bro was on a bunch of rebuilding teams smh
Same
@@beankobe8205 those teams are actually the best teams to be on to develop. If he was on a team with championship aspirations, he wouldn't have gotten onto the floor.
Josh Jackson is probably reading this from his burner like “Damn….😕
Remember the Celtics were thinking of drafting him but he didn't want to go workout for them. That should have told you everything you needed to know about his work ethic.
No it shouldn’t because players actually do that more than most people think ..
Not really. Or at all. But there was a lot of other signs that popped up ore draft that were massive red flags. Even w/ those I was shocked how quick he was out the league. One of the biggest bust that’s never talked about
@@tjanderson5892 💯
As a Celtics fan I want this dude so bad I’m so glade he didn’t go to the workout. 🤷
Nah or he just didn’t want to play for Boston lol
He had all of the tools to become a Paul George type player.
I feel like he was so physically dominant that he never had to work as hard as he should have.
When he got to the NBA he found that every player is just as athletic if not moreso. He didn't have the work ethic to fill the gaps in his game.
It also hurt him that he went to Phoenix who didn't have a vet who could guide him.
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In one incident he ghosted a Suns fan's event at a local Fry's. GM James Jones had to show up at the supermarket and buy 12 packs of beers for an entire crowd of angry fans lol.
Would’ve rather cracked a cold one with James jones
I remember listening to the local sports radio guys talking about that. It seems like that was the final straw for a lot of people.
he actually got harrassed and got touched
@@swishcountyproductions he’s a super cool dude! I just met him at Barnes & Noble yesterday. We talked about life and he gave me his contact info👏🏾
@@Ao1Bigboy Josh is that you?
Life long suns fan here. I remember drafting Josh Jackson looking at his production at Kansas and thinking that Andre Igguodala was the floor. It was immediately clear that this was not the case. That was such a brutally disappointing era for Suns fans. We could have had De’Aaron Fox, Jamal Murray, and Pascal Siakam to play with Booker. Instead, the Suns drafted Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, and Marqueese Chriss. If you include the year before Booker was drafted, the Suns could have taken Jokic instead of TJ Warren, and then been comfortable taking Luka instead of Ayton. Such a nightmare of a butterfly effect.
Don't worry y'all winning this year
You wouldn't have been in position to get all those players . You would have been a better team by just drafting one of those players,so you drafting postion would have been higher. But its nice to dream.
The draft is a gamble. You win some, you lose some.
Suns fan here as well, I share in the pain of poor drafting. If you go back a little further, there was Alex Len drafted with the 5th overall pick when they could have chosen Giannis 🤢 Impossible to know back then, but still
@@ZachAttackIsBack seem like spurs, raptors, heat, warriors, celtics and the thunder are always winning
Reminds me of what cam reddish is now , he makes you go damn people sleeping on him! Then go 5 games with terrible averages
I think the issue with cam is he needs teammates,fans, and coach to fully believe in him. Granted every1 would benefit from that. I don't know him personally or ever met him but he seems to lack that alpha personality. Like if he had rj barretts confidence and aggressiveness he'd be an all star or fringe all star for sure. I think he's better than rj it's just rj is much more aggressive and confident.
Aye Cam getting it together now
I used to work at az88 in Scottsdale az in 2018 and he came in multiple time and I served him sad to see his down fall like this
You clearly should’ve been a more positive influence on him
@@Rdude4444 lol 😂 I’m not responsible for the actions of a grown ass man who had all the gifts and talents in the world you sound like a clown 🤡
@@casey123curtis8 you’re the one who doesn’t understand sarcasm, obviously it was a joke. 🤡
@@Rdude4444 not a very good joke though
@@casey123curtis8 What were your impressions of him as a person
"Your GPA is 0.08. How do you explain this?"
"Ummm... sports?"
Suns fans here - he was part of a long line of poor early draft decisions. Not sure what was the worst - Jackson, Bender or Alex Len with the 5th pick in 2013. Thinking back to the local Suns commentators talking up these players feels so cringe now.
People disapprove of taking Ayton over Luka, but I can’t hate on them for making that choice when they did. Ayton was the safer pick at the time, and hindsight is 20/20.
Luka came into the draft as the Euroleague mvp, euroleague champion, and euroleague finals mvp. He had already been a pro for 5 years
@@cameronthomas7522 regardless, still hindsight. Most experts that bash the Suns for picking Ayton, also had Ayton as the #1 pick.
Picking ayton over tree young is stupid as shit
@@nickr.2850 Everybody intelligent (everybody who'd actually watched Luka) had him at 1.
Len is easily the best pick, isn't he? He was a solid player, so a reach but the others were busts, right? I'm surprised you didn't mention Chriss; didn't the Suns come away from the 2016 draft, having picks 2 and 5, with Dragan Bender and Marquese Chriss? Ouch. (Was it 4 and 8? Something like that.)
Obviously using hindsight to figure out who you "could've/should've" gotten, but... could've *easily* have gotten Jamal Murray and Domantas Sabonis or Taurean Prince. Pascal Siakam and DJ Murray went late...
It’s weird I went to a Salt Lake City Stars game ( Utah jazz g league affiliate) in 2020 and they played the Memphis hustle, and I was shocked when I saw him out there warming up for them.
He was one of the biggest names in the draft and now he’s struggling to stay in the g leauge
Great commentary, great insight. Better than similar channels by a country mile. Keep it up
Thanks man, means a lot!!
I know it's cliche, but I'm gonna say it anyways. Jackson is a prime example of, "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard."
How you know he didnt work hard? Assuming ass dude lol
@@neutralgenius25 easy lil fella.... easy
I don’t think it’s fair to say he don’t work hard when we don’t know him or his level of dedication to the game.
@@blackguy1236 he doesn’t work hard clearly
@@blackguy1236 So, 4+ years of tape of him never getting better and actually getting worse are irrelevant unless we have a personal relationship with him? I'm supposed to ignore what my eyes can see?
Awesome video👍
Been binging your videos lately! You do good work!
Preciate that man, thanks for the support
@@swishcountyproductions same keep up the good content brother
Likewise!! Good stuff
Dude, you hit 7k! With how baller your content is, 10k, then 100k, then more are just around the corner! Congrats on the growth!
Preciate you a lot man, you’ve been a big supporter since the start!
Man, you do a great job with this stuff. Well spoken, great commentary. Watched a few and love them. Keep it up my dude!!
Much appreciated!
Lengthy athletic forwards that can’t shoot are really a dime a dozen for NBA teams. If they want they can get that at anytime. So if ya don’t work hard to their standards and have constant problems off the court (publicly we only know of a few, but there’s endless more) teams are gonna peace out on ya regardless where you’re drafted
Ben simmons is the best example
@@jayus2033 still at a bit of a loss w/ Ben. Hes somewhat different in that even w/o a J him and his game were good enough to get maxed out w/ nobody 2nd guessing it at all. He should still be 16-8-8 w/ All NBA defense. Even tho he hasn’t gotten better since day 1 the player he was when he was drafted was a borderline perennial All Star.
For a player to fall as far as he has in as short of a time w/o any major injuries I don’t think I’ve ever heard of before. Something that yr broke him not just that last game bc he had like 0 shot attempts in each 4th qtr of the games leading up to the play against the Hawks. Mad weird
@@tjanderson5892 he has major injuries ben dose he has a completely fucked back
Josh was not lengthy. Athletic yes. But one of the knocks at draft was his lack of wingspan... which turned out to be the least of his deficiencies.
@@alvaroalfaro9478 quick twitch and explosive 6’8 guys who have an equal or larger wingspan would be the definition of lengthy. If ya wanted him to play NBA PF then ya could say bc of his slight frame he’d need to be lengthier to be effective. But for his preferred position as a 2/3 he’d have been extremely lengthy. His shooting was just never good enough to be a reliable 2/3
Bruhhhh i was literally in the middle of making a What happened to Josh Jackson vid 😭😭 great vid tho bro
Haha happens man, throw ur own flair in it and post it
Great videos man, entertaining and educational.
Preciate that man!!
I distinctly remember being higher on Jackson than Tatum 😭 boy did i miss there
Lol
This was me too 😩
" he must have been rolling it up hill" 🤣 that was great very witty
Goes to show you that first round talents won’t pan out most of the time. It’s a scary thing to draft players. You never know
A majority of the starters in the NBA are first round picks
@@12savage68 one doesn't negate the other. Yes first round picks are more likely to succeed in the NBA than 2nd round or undrafted but that doesn't change the fact about 30% of them won't make it more than their first contract
They actually do pan out. All the time. Literally like most starters or players and definitely most all stars are first round picks. Casual
@@OK-yy6qzfirst round talent works out all the time. This isn’t football. Sometimes we can spot hall of fame talent since early high school
@@Robertedwinhouse38 definitely not all the time lmao
Love your videos !
Hope to see you on top soon !
Preciate ya man!!
I remember he was going to go to MSU. Or at least a huge target. That msu team would have been insane with bridges, tillman, ward, winston, etc.
Izzo probably would have toughened him up too.
I remember i went to high school with his cousin and his cousin would always say “my cousin going to the NBA” when Josh was in HS. I found out Josh’s rookie season that he was cousins with the guy I went to school with 🤯Ik he’s a bust but man to know in high school that you’re 90% sure that your playing in the nba is insane
You do great work👏
Preciate you 👊
Ok dude that's it, I'm tired of being a horrible person and not subbing to you when you are making these amazing videos I keep watching. You got a new sub
Welcome to the dark side
It is crazy to think that some athletes have everything you can want physically but mentally they are below average in work ethic and habits.
🔥🔥 vid! Earned a sub. Dope content
Preciate that man
suns took alex len, dragan bender, marquese chriss, and josh jackson in successive draft lotteries, oof......
Good video
The off court personal issues mentioned in this video are not even a fraction of his off court issues. I am a family member of his daughter. At 2 years old, His Daughter was in the ICU because of a drowning accident. Josh did not want to help pay for daycare and was attacking his daughter's mother with his huge team of lawyers. The mother had to take their daughter to work to clean an airbnb and while trying to work, the baby slipped out the door and fell in the pool. Her Mother found her floating lifeless. She was able to resucitate her with CPR and the baby was taken to ICU. Josh was made aware of the incident within minutes of his daughter being taken to ICU. He was at NBA all star in Miami when this happened and decided to stay in Miami instead of flying out to Arizona to be with his daughter. He then ignored the calls from the hospital and never followed up to check up on his daughter. While his Daughter was in ICU Josh was posting himself on instagram, partying it up with a bunch of escorts.
If this doesn't tell you what kind of person this Man/Child is, nothing will. No one in our family likes him. His daughter is precious and an absolute cutie. I'm not exactly sure on the details but from what I heard, his daughter and the Mom have to get around in public buses.
Heard of a few other cases but nothing like that man……. Wow
You could easily describe more then half the league just like this guy
I loved that 2017 Kansas team.. Azuibuike down low, LaGerald Vick, Josh Jackson of course, Svi Mykhailiuk, Devonte Graham… as I look it up now forgot about Frank Mason, Perry Ellis, that was a dope team!
Edit: Great breakdown, I subbed
Perry Ellis left in 2016, udoka was out almost all 2017 and wasn’t a major contributor till 2018…. How could you forget Frank Mason for 2017…. He was the national player of the year in 2017.. smh
@@Abdbjcidod settle down buddy that was off the top of my head and I’m not even a Kansas fan. Close enough
@@Abdbjcidod I’m not a diehard Kansas fan haha forgive me
Vick was ridiculous. He should be in the NBA.
I saw Josh as a freshman and sophomore in Detroit and he looked bored out there. He was just better than everyone else on the court and it wasn't even close. I hope he is able to get his career back on track.
Maybe but look like dat NBA shit over with maybe overseas..either way he gets to play ball for a living Wi$h i could do that!!😂
im still rooting for him i hope he figures things out he is still young
Nice breakdowns, feels so nostalgic and it's weird to think Josh was in the 2017 class. It seems like he came in the league a decade ago and not with Lonzo Ball. I specifically remember thinking he had so much potential and I ended up being wrong about him which isn't often for me. Josh Jackson and Kristaps I got very wrong. His biggest problem was shooting and he could never fix it.
“He had to repeat the eighth grade reportedly due to the love of the game overtaking his grades”
Did Josh say that? Cuz it reads like a teenager lie
As a Kings fan, it was the only silver lining for years a team finally drafted a bust over the star that Sac picked 😂
It looks like he never learned any humility after his talent was recognized. Someone he respected should have rolled up on him and said, "guys like you are a dime a dozen in the NBA. To stand out, you have to work hard every day. Every state in the country has ten guys like you who are willing to work hard to get to the NBA. They will take your job."
It's too bad. But he's not the only guy out there whose high school years were the best years of their lives. Happens to most of them, really.
Drafted 4th ahead of D. Foxx, Markkanen and D. Mitchell. Out of the league six years later. One of the biggest busts that isn't talked.
It goes unnoticed because no one was watching suns games including suns fans 😂 They were selling tickets at like 4 bucks during that time. So since no one watched the games no one really knew much about him or cared, because the other rooks were killing it, and because lonzo and fultz were the main targets to call a “bust”
This just goes to show how many careers get ruined by the one-and-done process. He was an absolute beast at times at KU, but he clearly needed more time to grow, both as a player and a man, and the NBA doesn't have the patience for that. Stay in school, kids.
The NBA needs a minor league system like the MLB
@ricster_stm up until recently, that was college. Gives players development time and has the added bonus of direct mentorship from coaches and professors.
@@ricster_stm the NBA has the D-League. Teams just don't use it that way for some reason. A player can go to the D-League right out of high school too.
Money talks.
It's funny he was actually considered the player with the highest ceiling in his draft class, and maybe he was. 6'8 with long arms, showed potential in shooting, scoring, defense and even a bit of playmaking.
Loved his athleticism, loved how much of a dog he was and most importantly, I loved how great he was at facilitating the ball. He had such high basketball IQ but it seems like as soon as he lost his confidence he lost his game. I thought we were watching Tracy McGrady who could play the point guard when he was at Prolific
I remember watching him at Kansas and in High school and thinking he was T-Mac who could play Point Guard, he was special
As a Suns fan I was admittedly stoked we got him instead of Tatum. Safe to say I may have been off. What a scrub on and off the court
This dude only 25 and he got a video like this on him. SMH
I clicked on the vid by accident, found a gem of a channel 🧑🏽🦯🔥
Preciate that g
I remember hearing Josh voice for the first time it told tell me everything I needed to know about him.
$28,000,000 Career Earnings...He Won at Life
No doubt hope he invests wisely
He has 6 kids with 6 different women all under the age of 4. He pretends like his kids don't exist. If that's what you call winning at life.
With you all the way except the 'should have stayed in college to mature' stuff. That's such a myth. He acted out in college too, surrounded by tons of immature coeds and immature party friends and an administration that enables his bad behavior and professors who fawn over him and give straight As even when he doesn't show up. How could anyone mature in that environment?
That’s a good point. I think getting his legal consequences out of the way and letting his game mature might’ve been beneficial, but maybe that’s hindsight since he got thrown in the deep end and drowned lol
I was thinking the same thing. We celebrity worship in the US way too much which ironically comes to the downfall to many of the people we are worshipping. He needed to have someone there to humble him and make sure he paid for his actions. As usual though, if you're rich and popular, you won't pay.
Goofy part is the girl was suspended from her team for starting the altercation
When is someone gonna make another video about THEM KINGS!!!!
I worked as a beer merchandiser at the grocery store he was supposed to make an appearance at while he was in Phoenix. He had a CROWD waiting for him, that supported him and wanted him to do well. Once he no showed, he lost ALL support in PHX.
Such a bummy move man
@@swishcountyproductions But it wasn’t all bad bcuz this was when James Jones got the support of the city, because he actually showed up instead to apologize and even bought Everyone a case of beer.
This video kept the AAU ball out and how this happens more and more and how he was older then everyone else so it made him look better
He left the streets, but the streets didn’t leave him!
You are a really good story teller when it comes to these NBA guys who just couldn't cut it at the top level. Great research as always.
Preciate your support g, really means a lot
We need an Anthony Bennett video
as someone who has close friends who are stoners (personally not my thing but i think its fine for adults) i find it seriously disgusting that he did that to his BABY and i hope he never has the opportunity to see her again i hope cps takes that baby far away from him as obviously he is beyond unfit to be a father
Never understood this. As a KU fan I said when he was in college he wasn’t it. It just didn’t look right.
He was an immature AAU player
@@MyMyManMelo_ I completely agree. Raw talent for sure but nothing more. He needed to go somewhere that wouldn’t try to use him much for a few seasons. Humble him.
@@Andrew-Ryan if he was going to succeed he need to go to an organization like Boston. But he cancelled on them. A person who is immature and reckless without having even gotten into the league is not gonna be disciplined enough to 1, grow his game in his own accord. Because it require a lot of self discipline and 2. Is averse to discipline and structure in general and will have a hard time with decision making unless curtailed
The Celtics are a disciplined organization and that’s a turnoff for him, plus whatever he may have herd about Boston that he did not verify for himself. Typical of a follower.
As a result he went to a lesser organization where the structure and support for him was probably lacking from day 1. And he never progressed. Had he been drafted they would have developed him into a much better player (see what they did with Robert Williams)
@@MyMyManMelo_ can’t say I disagree with anything you said lol
The coolest part of this video were those slick teal 'Couv Grizzlies throwback uni's 10:45
I live near Detroit and met some people that played against him in HS. Said he was absurdly, overwhelmingly good. Shows how strong the talent is in the NBA and how hard it can be to make the adjustment to playing a role
Can you do a video about Harry Giles?
Definitely will in the near future
He's still relatively young and just didn't work on his craft and these guys now that's coming into the league better take notice cause the draft goes on every year and new players come in and your spot on a team is slim to none if you don't work constantly
You had me intrigued after “4 month year old daughter high”
As a Magic fan, I feel like if Orlando doesn't want him, nobody does. Haha. That being said, it's interesting to see who and how they develop. I actually see a pretty direct comparison (defense aside) to Jalen Suggs. I feel like the difference is what is mentioned many times in this video. Maturity. The difference between, for example, Chauncey Billups and Jackson might simply be what they want from life. It seems that Jackson wasn't willing to sacrifice his life to be an NBA player. That's the type of drive most NBA players need, and I'm not shocked or surprised that some don't have it. I don't think I would have it. Suggs was taken 4th, struggled his rookie year, but has seemed willing to put in the relentless work and dedication. Time will tell.
Dragan Bender, a cool name
I so wanted that to be an attack in Dragon Ball GT, maybe one by Omega Shenron
what's that guys name @ 12:20. I remember something funny happening involving him a few years ago.
Straight Bust called it coming out of high school. Dude had nothing that stood out fundamentally to excel in the league.
Much better than the crud Mike korzemba is making lately
Still the og
@@swishcountyproductions I agree. I used to love his videos but they’re just lazy common knowledge videos nowadays. Not sure he’d even make them if it wasn’t for sponsors. There’s a reason he has 2 millions subs but doesn’t even get 100k views on some videos.
This dude was pulling up to Pistons games with Sada Baby 😂😭🪦
Josh Jackson's biggest problem is he's a head case.
He was so good because he was older than everybody
He’s probably too reliant on his physicality when in high school and college, so other parts of his game never really developed. Once he got to the NBA his strengths were just the norm, and his weaknesses were magnified.
This was a great analysis
I feel like some of these scouts are going just off highlight videos and clips just like we do lmao
I always felt if he went to a veteran team with more discipline he could have been a nice role player. But JJ couldn’t even survive in detroit so there’s that lol
As a ku fan I hyped this dude up a lot turns out more than I should have lol. Ku beat Kentucky that season and in that game josh put up 20 and 10 outplaying fox, monk, and bam. He also scored 23 points in the tournament outplaying miles bridges. I think his problem was that “dog” scouts thought he had was actually just attitude problems. So much of the NBA is oppertuntity and he didn’t take advantage of his. The suns gave up on him too early because he was a idiot off the court. If he wasn’t they would’ve been alot more patient with him on the court.
That draft he was in was crazy now that I think about it
So he skipped that workout with the Celtics and we got jayson Tatum instead
Mikal bridges ended up fulfilling that role
Song at the end name
Even if he never developed but has good work ethic, he could at least be like a Herb Jones type of player
So sick of ESPN and other major media fluff pieces on athletes who make millions but aren't worth a dime.
Damn I forgot all about him
Idk why, but Josh Jackson was a player who I tried to follow, despite not being a Suns fan (MFFL). When he was traded to Memphis, it seemed for a second like they might have gotten a steal, but it's sad that he just couldn't put it together. At least he wasn't Anthony Bennett
A number of people in the NBA media thought Jackson was the best player in the 2017 Draft. It was a weak draft, except for the Celtics's stealing Jason T at #3. It's comical to think Fultz and Ball were taken over Tatum and then Jackson went #4.
Honestly the draft wasn't that weak it had 6 all stars,it just wasn't the people most people expected.
Outside of Tatum and Mitchell who became stars immediately we also had Bam,Lauri,Fox and Allen as late bloomers
Five members of that draft were in the All-Stars. That's hardly a weak draft.
This dude at worst would’ve been a quality starter or quality bench player but his mind was beyond fucked up
I remember watching him at Kansas and thinking that he wasn’t as good as people were saying he was…
Nice call
It's sad but a lot of highly touted prospects from Detroit just don't have the work ethic to develop any further once they make it to the league. I'm from Detroit. There's too many of these types of players in our history and I don't really know why. Maybe it's the same everywhere and I just pay attention to Detroit players because we hear about them.
Today kids are too caught up with trying to be the greatest and Head to the NBA ASAP instead of just being themselves and improving on themselves in every area and just letting life happen for them.
What I'm saying is that now and days both the kids and the grown ups are putting too much pressure on the kids and warping the view of the game itself and the true reason why the NBA is the best.
When I grew up it was understood that the NBA and NFL were way ahead of the college games to the point of calling them completely different games/sports.
Going to the league out of Highschool was rare AF.
That is the problem most players can't cut it in the NBA but can't seem to understand that.
With that said get your money young man and don't leave any on the table.
This dude was my favorite player in high school and college damn it sucks what happened to his career
He is currently fighting a rape case that was filed in New York on August 4th, 2023
Whats the song at the beggining?
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As a Kings fan, I remember some people hyped thinking that he might fall to us. Glad we got De'Aaron Fox instead.
When he came over in the trade for Marvin Bagley, I honestly thought it might be interesting to see how he would play with some of our main guys. He never really got a chance here so I don't think it's fair to say that he was the worst player in the league during his stint with us. He was pretty terrible though and showed why he only deserved garbage time minutes. I don't feel sorry for him though. He made millions even after abusing his kid.
Bro typed a story book. Stfu
Trobb is like our josh Jackson ..he only lasted 50 something games before being traded in his rookie season. I was so confused a guy like Tom. Robinson who was judged the most nba ready from the 2012 draft played so bad. He looked so lost on the court and never prompt during plays.
Not saying Jackson is any better but at least his rookie campaign with the suns is decent.
Him and Bender were such a draft pick waste for the Suns. Really wish we got Fox over him in that draft class.
If Josh jacobs went to that Celtics workout, we could have seen a Tatum, and booker led suns, and knowing how the suns have been for the last 3 years, who knows how that could have changed the nba
The Celtics were not gonna draft him after seeing Tatum and him workout.
What has happened to Josh? He had a great preseason, then got cut. Since then, he's fallen off the radar.
Remember when the suns wouldn't add him in deal for kyrie years back?
He might be solid on a team that's willing to open him open
Gotta make a Jalen Green and Kilian Hayes “how bad they actually were” vids
Him getting an 8 on his leadership evaluation at 4:58 just goes to show blind and/or dumb people are if a guy has talent
He’s still got time
5 minute interview with these guys will tell you more about them than their stats will