Debating Piers Morgan on the Monarchy
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I hate how Piers’ first example of bad members of the royal family are Harry and Megan, instead of an alleged sex offender.
Cos it's ALLEGED
@@craigjohnson9405 So just because it’s only alleged, that means it doesn’t have any impact at all on the reputation and the general public’s outlook? That is ridiculously nonsensical.
@@craigjohnson9405 We all know it's not.
yep
I mean, Harry is an imperialist invader of Afghanistan, so I'm not sure who's worse.
Amazing how Piers can ask a question, answer it himself and then move on. Why have guests at all?
As props. His audience hears “atheist anti-monarchist” and thinks of him as being controlled whatever minorities they’ve been brainwashed into blaming for all their problems.
Take a guess😂 this guy lives off clips of "Piers shut down this and that guy" and interrupting, talking over guests and generally being assertive makes it convincing, he seems right to someone who hasn't actually researched these things.
He is quite the towering narcissist
Talks over the top of his guests, not letting them answer his own questions, let alone make their own points, and then has the cheek to call his show "Uncensored". What a guy!
He's a tool.
'why do you dislike the monarchy?'
'well because I th-'
'what gives you the right to'
basically this entire video
Notice how when Piers speaks, the volume of the guests' mics is automatically massively reduced. They had to set it up that way
Piers is annoying but the young talks a lot of rubbish that isn't worth talking about. I'm not living in a monarchy and would take the Royal Family in a heartbeat. It gives extreme stability in hard times to have some sort of compass even if the royals arent perfect humans either.
@@zellhaufen8583 How does it bring stability?
@@zellhaufen8583I had rather not have illusions of grandeur while being a slave to the monarchy. That's essentially your illusionary stability. You don't seem to have any idea of British monarchy and it's history. Read a history book and try not gag as they rape and plunder their way through corpses of innocents.
Piers asks question. Alex answers question. Piers wonder what gives Alex the right to answer the question he asked.....perhaps because he was invited onto the show to talk about it and answer questions....
I love the way Piers is able to frame the lie that anti-monarchism just didn't exist until Prince Harry said some mean things
I guess the guillotine was invented to chop carrots.
@@YokiDokiPanic*sighs dreamily* the guillotine
If only because of his mother before him.
I don't understand, do these brits not know that monarchies used to rule over the entirety of Europe, and somehow they were overthrown? How can you be so delusional?
The clever part is that he never actually *says* that (or else Alex would jump in and refute him). He just strongly implies it. Over and over again.
"An atheist anti-monarchist!?" Piers cried, as though this was highly unusual.
And Piers is just a ‘radical journalist and christian ass licking monarchist’ lol
"... yes, and I like Marmite. Is there a problem here?!"
Not unusual, but obviously an anarchist is going to not like the royal family
Another word for common sense..
What's this?! An atheist believes that people should not have inherited power over a country justified by divine right by god?! It's like they don't believe in god!
Piers did a great job of interviewing himself.
So well put,I will use that.
He is simply obnoxious as always. Why even bother to bring in alternative voices to interview when you are so aggressive and biased about the topic of discussion
😅😅😅😅😅
😂
...and making himself look a complete fool
Just a friendly reminder that there were 3 guests in this segment. One who was allowed to speak their mind, a second who was constantly talked over, and a third who wasn't acknowledged past their introduction.
I'm guessing Alex cut he third person out in this video, because it is mostly about his debate with Piers Morgan.
@@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten Yes he did, he noted this in the description
“I was born in this family therefore I am better than you are” is the root of a lot of evils in this world
who said they are better. do they say it?
@@igvc1876 When everyone treats you like you are, you'll start thinking it. Obviously they haven't announced it publicly because, and don't be surprised, they'd receive backlash over it.
@@igvc1876everybody celebrates their birthday, they bow to them, they call them highness and majesty. And they just get to live rich lives funded by the people who admire them. Being pro monarchy is pro sheep
@@kc_h7h you need to broaden your perspective and think about it purely from a political perspective - having a monarchy is a significant advantage to political stability in a democracy
@@kc_h7h today they are just figure heads. they dont hold any real power.
It's amazing that piers Morgan thinks the rest of the world is impressed rather than bemused by England's reliance on hereditary political offices.
Asia loves it
The britisch monarchy does exert great soft-power for the UK around the world. It is very widley known and respected.
It’s hard to calculate the net benefits. There is no dispute that some people respect the institution, but there are also many people that are turned off by it. Most of the world doesn’t live under monarchy because they have thrown off that yoke and feel justified in their fundamental repulsion to it.
Swede here. I think our royalties are based & seeing the royal guard riding horseback through old town gives me a sense of heritage and history. If the government is going to dole out cash to a bunch of cultural projects and the like, then I don't see a better bang for the buck than the royals.
@@IsomerSoma They've also vetoed plenty of bills in the 20th and 21th century, contrary to public perception. In a more opaque display of power they've also secretely vetted a lot of laws before they were approved by parliament. Lobbying of course is another way they swing their d*cks around. These measures have been used to allow them to conceal the wealth of the royal family among other things involving land inheritance. Who knows what else they've been able to do behind the scenes.
Very funny how he calls this show "uncensored" but actually its all about his own opinion and as soon as someone disagrees he interrupts and talks over them.
1000%
Piers Morgan ('s opinion and his alone's) uncensored
@@miguelpadeiro762 😂😂😂
No person in their right mind can genuinly enjoy spitting such opinionated hot air this much without cringing every two seconds. I cannot even bother to watch the entirety of this clip because I feel so much Fremdscham for Piers Morgan's nauseating self-congratulatory and self-egrandising demeanor.
@@maniak1768
Silence you peasant
Piers Morgan is not a clown, he is the entire circus.
I get this is supposed to be lighthearted, but I don't think the circus would appreciate this.
Please do not insult clowns. Piers Morgan is worse than clowns
Don't give him that much credit, being an entire circus requires planning and choreography, cooperation. Which he's shown he's incapable of.
😅
10:03 ‘You’d rather be ruled by Boris Johnson?’
The government isn’t supposed to rule people. It’s supposed to represent them.
Piers constantly interrupting the guest he disagrees with as usual 🙄
Reminds me of the Tommy Robinson interview….which wasn’t an interview, but could have been interesting.
I don't even know why he has guests on his show. Just have cardboard cut outs. He did most of the speaking. He's not even listening.
He can’t stop himself
Piers is a deeply insecure man.
Nothing worse than an anti-monarchist AND Greek! 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Just because you're talking over people doesn't mean you're winning, Piers
He probably knows that. He also knows that a good portion of his audience doesn’t know that.
Yes it does those are the rules he makes up on his show 😅
@@snoozyq9576 yes
@RUNOTENTERTAIN Chu no, it means he doesnt shut up until he gets to talk.
@RUNOTENTERTAIN Chu confidence doesn’t make you correct. U can talk as confident as you want, but talking bullshit is still talking bullshit
“Am I young people?” Is a weirdly good quote, it’s a shame that piers persisted with the poor question
That part shows how out of touch they are with young people.
"you're almost middle aged"
Good catch. It's weird that theyre claiming "78% of young people" feel this way. What does "young people" mean?
The fact that piers thinks anyone outside of the uk cares about the coronation is honestly hilarious
I disagree I think more foreigners cared about it than we did. I remember someone showing me that they were watching the coronation by sending me a video on snapchat, I didn't get why they bothered.
I cant even remember their names tbh
@@RaffieFaffiei really doubt that. Noone really cares tbh. Maybe the few in your case
@@Planck944 No one really cares? From what I've seen many care about the royals read the rest of this comment section
@@RaffieFaffie people visit this country to see the many beautiful landmarks we have here. Its truly a historic place, everything about it is amazing. But I don’t think more than lets say 5 percent come here specifically for the royal family. Noone really cares. Its nice in their eyes, sure, but noone is overly enthusiastic about it. 🤔 what do you think about it?
Can’t believe piers believes young people dislike the royal family because of prince harry and Megan, instead of prince Andrew
Or instead of the fact that they have no legitimate right to rule over anybody or have the vast amount of power and wealth that they do.
Piers just has a vendetta against those two and Will place blame on them whenever he can
lol yeah. Or the fact that young people have never like them. 'God Save the Queen' anyone? Not the crap anthem, the punk song.
I find it funny this didn't come up.
honestly as a young person i did not and don’t think i will ever care about internet drama in some ancient rich family, i think thats why the Queen was liked so much, she wasn’t (publicly) involved and she just donated to charity and waved
kids dont want to learn about a bunch of old creeps and their 14 children
"You'd rather be ruled by Boris Johnson?" If Boris was born to a royal family, Pierce would be arguing for Boris' right to rule. :D
Well said
Also, we were ruled by Boris Johnson, so having a royal family didn't change that.
And we also got rid of him, which is the point, we can't get rid of the royals.
That would have been a great point!
Yep!
And equally the guest could have asked Piers "would you rather be ruled by Meghan?", as that's also a possibility. He's deliberately painted a terrible picture, the guest could have painted an equally as bad a picture if he really wanted to.
His arguments are on the level of an 11 year old. I'm not kidding, because I clearly remember myself as a teen saying the same type of shit
Alex:"...and I'd be quite concerned if you disagreed with that"
Piers: "With what?"
Beautiful work exposing the fact that he isn't even listening to your answers.
As an American... conservatives are so different yet ultimately the same everywhere. Seeing people inexplicably defend the monarchy because "it's what we've always had!" seems insane, but it makes sense considering the nonsensical things that American conservatives defend as "the basis of our country!!!". It's all about looking in the past.
It's all about looking in the past, you mean like slavery reperations etc.? I'm a Dutch conservative but kind of anti-monarchist, I'd say let them pay their taxes and after that we can discuss their true value.
its really just about expanding the wealth and power of european monarchs. which was the original purpose of colonizing america
@daanloco7200 no serious leftist is actually interested in slavery reparations, but its obviously important to acknowledge the past to understand certain modern sociological realities, things just aren't the way they are for no reason. that' obviously not the same as keep traditional institutions or values just for the sake of keeping them even though they're clearly a detriment.
Conservative want to conserve… except for the environment 😂
You really should read more before posting false information. Piers is not a Conservative, lol….he is a diehard Liberal. On American news debates, he represents the Liberals/Democrats and always has.
Piers's technique: ask 10 questions at once, allow the person you agree with to respond uninterrupted, constantly talk over the top of the person you don't agree with...job done!
that reminds me a lot of the radio program we have in italy called "la Zanzara" XD
That's called gish galloping
Brits...
@@LoneWolf-je9vr It's not just brits. You see it in almost every podcast these days, though you see it the most in political podcasts. Even if the person doesn't disagree with your point, they have to get their word in despite you not finishing your thought. It's very annoying.
Exactly. What an idiot
Does Piers really think that no one protested the monarchy before the debut of Harry’s book lmao
He did spend the last few years of his life legitimising his career by bashing Megan because she didn’t wanna date him. He’s never really gotten over Alex from GMB telling him how it is 😂😂
I swear there were a few revolutions, peaceful and otherwise, around the world about this issue, but what do I know
@@1Cirmag Even in modern times I think people were more annoyed about the whole cover up and pay out of Andrew over anything Megan and Harry did beyond their wedding day. If anything the whole Megan and Harry situation was blow up more from people like Piers who to this day still cant fall asleep without a hateful Megan comment being tweeted, aired or spoken.
Hard to see or hear a protest when you got your head up your own rear
Pretty sure there were some incidents even during the late queens mourning period and funeral...but dude's old, so that might've slipped his mind.
The Argument "Well at least 50% of the Populace dont like any given PM" is so funny when you keep in mind that they started off the interview with the headline "78% of youngsters not interested in the monarchy"
Piers has an incredible ability to ask a question to someone he doesnt agree with and barely let them answer whilst also allowing people he does like to speak for far longer.
Piers certainly gives his guests time to speak...
I was going to say this. This would be better to watch if he didn't cut off his opponents every mid sentence
But you see, that might give them time to state their views, and some of Piers' audience might begin to agree...
You mean the "good evening" bit?
Yeah, I was going to say that Piers needs to work on his communication skills!!
@@advaitsen7979
He is for rEal FreEze PeAch. So this is him walking the walk.
the fact that the first point he made about young people losing faith in the royals being because of prince harry and meghan and not prince andrew is absolutely hilarious
even if they were all people i would gladly vote into the highest office, the monarchy would still be an antiquated system that assumes the innate superiority of one family. and that's what i reject. what the royals do isn't even part of the equation.
Could be because Prince Charles was best buddies with Jimmy Savile
There are a multitude of reasons why young people are losing faith or never had faith in the royals to begin with… And you can bet that 99% of those young people are not listening or giving a fuck about Harry and fucking Meg….
How Charles treated Diana, he and Camilla have been unpopular for decades.
Or we just realize once people stopped living in castles no one should give a fuck about them.
I have yet to meet a single person that travelled to England to see the royal family and not all of the immensely more interesting landmarks that the city has to offer.
The idea of a monarchy is truly one of the most bizarre human concepts that would be comical if it didn't have real world effects
What? Some families are more equal than others. Perfectly natural.
@@OurNewestMember What's unnatural is the concept of equality. Equality exists nowhere in nature, yet we're expected to believe that some chav with an I.Q. of 80 is the equal of Socrates? Fuck off.
Piers literally always has the most aggressively stupid position on every issue
ill considered and stupid.
He is tucker carlsons fraternal twin
@@MrChazz965 omg he totally is tho!!!! that’s brilliant 😂
If there's something I've learned in life is that the most ignorant are the noisiest and the most self assured
@@TheSilverGate The emptiest barrels make the most noise
Alex adapted so quickly to the illegitimate “debate” style of Mr. Morgan. Mad props..
Just trying to cut Alex off at every turn
Apparently its standard style for british tv
I don't really watch Morgan but I am stuck by how much like Faux News his style is. Interrupt the thought before you are pwned. Don't let the other side say what is going to be impossible for you to address.
@@rationalbushcraft InterviewTV is owned by Rupert Murdoch.
He could have smiled more 😆
What an extraordinary show of calmness and analytical reason you give here, Alex. Only just discovered you through the podcast. Looking forward to hearing more!
I promise you in 10 years those kids who are protesting wouldn't care less about the monarchy.
Imagine unironically waking up every day and being happy to be a peasant
I am happy to be a pheasant
Democratic cuck
Is there something wrong with being a peasant?
@@sharkas9965 While nothing is wrong with a simpler, rural lifestyle, there certainly is something wrong with both being forced to be a peasant and with being lorded over by a hereditary authority.
@@neoknight9180 as opposed to being forced to be under rule of a president? It seems like you trying to find something inherently morally wrong with monarchy when its just another system of governance. All systems of governance involves forcing things onto people.
And your point seems even less rational when you take into consideration monarchs in uk dont really have much executive power
Also peasant in this context =/= rural/simple.
Its fantastic that Piers invites you onto his show, presumably to listen to what you have you say but spends the majority of the time telling you what he thinks.
He's like a British Bill O'Reilly
I guess anyone willing to call their talkshow "Me myself uncensored" makes it pretty clear who they think deserves to speak.
Unless you're Cristiano Ronaldo or Novak Djokovic. Telling, one Dr Peterson fan and the other the King of Anti Vax in sport
@@wet-read Nail on the head. They're exactly the same
It’s a debate….
I'm so proud and impressed at how far you've come! I've been watching for years and I'm really happy you're getting so much attention on a public stage. You kicked ass in both this and the Destiny debate. Keep up the good work!
As a foreigner, we dont look at it in a “favorable light”
Yea, like who looks at them positively?
Not africa, not the us, not india, not china, not any ex colony
"Who are you to tell me how this country should be run?" A guy that you invited to speak about how the country should be run, Morgan. A man you asked to do precisely what he's doing.
And a citizen. He's as legitimate as anyone. Who's Pires or the king or anyone to have any say in how the country should be run?
I can't deal with what a huge twat PM is. He embodies everything that is wrong with personality driven "news" broadcasting.
Piers was terrified of Alex. You could see him thinking, "I can't let this kid destroy me on National television." That's why he wouldn't let him speak.
cringe
@@wb8233 Yeah, Piers is cringy.
Yeh his go to defence was banging on about old BoJo who is as outdated now as himself
"You're an *atheist* anti-monarchist?!"
Good luck poisoning the well when so is most of Europe.
This guy reminds me of Bill O'Reilly lol.
@@ThorsDecree Well Piers did get destroyed by the logical argument that Alex presented.
"They bring in more than they cost"
"They are hardworking for Brittain"
So? They can do that without being "Royalty"
The Monarchy is like the Kardashians for old people
No u
"the queen was a comfort during lockdown" i got more comfort from a japanese game about running an island with animals than from the british royal family during lockdown personally
Completely agree. What a ridiculous thing to say. The royal family did fuck all to comfort citizens in the pandemic.
Are you talking about animal crossing?
@@yomamasohot6411 lmao yes it has to be acnh
Japanese video games also helped me a lot during 2020 - I played BOTW, Bloodborne and Sekiro that year and they all contributed to my mental health far more than any royal ever has.
Lol ikr? I was busy entertaining my fans during the lockdown (i'm a comic artist). But yeah I wasn't even aware the queen did anything 😂
The children shouting "He's our King!!", totally weren't told to do so by their teachers or parents. They did their own research and formed their own opinions.🙃
😂😂😂
Yeah, exactly. They got an exciting day out of school, are 6 or 7 . have been told to say that and have been fed propaganda in school lessons, are too young to understand and form their own opinions, come back to them in 15 years time and see what they think,
I like Alex. He’s very smart and impressive, but i don’t think there is anything more embarrassing than being an atheist antimonarchist. Every arrogant 16 year old boy is an atheist antimonarchist until they grow up.
@@zbigniewczaykowski514 haha. Then come back to them in 15 more years and see what they say.
@@SkoolNerds Then they grow up, and become a religious monarchist? Ok buddy, sure.
An answer to the Boris Johnson question “so imagine if there were a dreadful event and the entire royal family died leaving only prince Andrew. Would you be happy to be ruled by him?”
Imagine living in this century and simping for the monarchy wtf
Morgan referred to "the stable royal family." A family marked by infidelity, infighting, and sex crimes may be ordinary, but it is not stable.
ah yes, such a stable family, assassinating diana. that reminds of how my family tried to assassinate my aunt ! /s
Yeah they're probably so stable thanks to the generations on generations of inbreeding keeping them strong!
He means "stable" in the sense that they have produced our heads of state in a reasonably predictable manner (with a few upsets such as the barring of Catholics and an abdication) for hundreds of years. If we retain the royal family, then we can already be reasonably sure of who our next two heads of state will be, which might well take us up to the year 2100. That's what I call stability.
Always kills me how Piers will ask a question, not stop to hear the answer, and go off on a tangent without getting back to the original question.
YOURE NOT GETTING THE POINT YOURE NOT GETTING THE POINT SHUT UP STOP ANSWERING MY QUESTION YOURE NOT GETTING THE POINT
how is this man allowed on national telly
He is so terrible at this and frustrating to watch. Embarrassing.
Because Piers already has an answer to everything he asks and if the guest doesn't respond in agreement he must take back the steering wheel.
He's had lots of practice interrupting various babies’ first words.
Piers is a rude ahole.
I don’t know you, I just found your channel, oh my word this is the most satisfying thing I’ve seen all week. Good on you for not letting him bulldoze you
I love how he tries to interrupt you constantly because you're actually making good points... he's just trying to butt in and know you down every other second and you're just not having it and continue your point it's brilliant 😂
Here’s a fun drinking game: Every time Piers doesn’t give Alex a chance to answer, take a shot
Alcohol poisoning here I come.
Call the paramedics now. I'll need my stomach pumped by the time they get here..
I'd already planed to get a bit tipsy tonight. Now I'm going to have to get shitfaced? Alright. Deal me in.😂
Fnrthhgh hvutddfho joo hic.......
I’m ratted 10 mins in !
The guy described the royal family as a "hard working family ", it's been a while that I hadn't had laughed this hard 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Really hard working at spending the country's money and resources for their own comfort and luxurious demands.
@@rz2233 you're absolutely right about that 👍
Picking a wine cup is exhausting
Their 'work' is to spend their entire lives on vacation, can I PLEASE have that job as well?!?
Re: tourism. France got rid of their kings a while ago. Guess who's #1 in tourist destinations?
Just found your channel, and your mind works in wonderful ways. I can’t help but admire how you debate, and the wording you use. You are clearly a very educated and smart guy. Definitely found a long time subscriber in me, keep it up man. 🎉
Love the way Morgan brings on 2 guests and then effectively answers his own questions, and doesn't really let them speak
He apparently brought on 3 if what I saw at the start meant anything 2:30
Even Fox News lets their guests speak (granted, they more often than not bring on people who will agree with their views).
It’s his ego trip, thinly veiled as a so called …………………….. whatever it is
It’s beyond frustrating to hear Morgan wiggle his slimy way through proper criticism by giving non-answers and twisting the words of his guest. Pretty sad that anti intellectual shows like his are so popular.
it's all kabuki lol the royal family will continue to fade with the next few generations
This dude totally slayed. Kept his composure, stayed on topic, didn’t let Piers cut him off. I aspire to that level of calm, confident communication
I'd have said "Could I trouble you not to talk over me? I think that's basic courtesy" dripping with passive aggressive tones
@@soulsearcher9620 sometimes you need to know when to keep your mouth shut
CosmicSkeptic is the most Patient guy I've ever seen.
He puts up with so much and always remains calm and eloquent when responding.
It's extremely impressive
@@soulsearcher9620🤡
He was dripping with rizz no cap omm
great sutff. should have quoted Churchill at him "... Democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried ..."
The argument "would you rather be ruled by boris johnson" falls flat when you remember that we were ruled by boris johnson, so having or not having a monarch wouldnt change that.
I love how Piers uses a video of children waving flags like they haven't been told to
While i am loathe to make a point in favour of Piers it's not North Korea.
Piers is a propagandist
@@nealgrimes4382 well I doubt they woulda been shot if they hadn't waved the flag, but that doesn't mean they weren't told to
@@nealgrimes4382 school children will do what you tell them to and will believe what they’re told. They’re children? Not exactly proof of well informed individuals protesting their beliefs more than a flock of parrots.
Exactly...I thought that was sarcasm.
Like a true monarchist, Piers asks and answers his own questions.
What did the monarchy ever really do for the youth of Great Britain?
@@cynthiasutch9139 do you think that youth is the people born after 2000 or 1990 or something? Every generation ever existed was youth once and monarchy was there during great deal of them. Your grandfather was an youngster once and I doubt he was anti monarchist.
@Tsotne Gogshelidze you are completely incorrect. In the 1920s and 30s the youth questioned the monarchy. Most periods they do. Do you think that the monarchy were pro universal suffrage regarding voting in 1920? The monarch in the 1930s was friendly to Hotler
Like a true narcissist as well.
@Len - As if that is something specific to all monarchists. Lmfao. 🤦🏾♂️
Shall I say “Like a true Republican, Len Loving is a narcissist that thinks he knows better.”
"He is an anti-monachist." You mean like the rest of pretty much the entire world? And he says it like thats a bad thing. 🤣🤣🤣Good one UK
Ask the royals if they'd still like to perform their "duties" without privilidges like living in palaces, travelling in private jets etc, and then see if they themselves would see the value in "the institution."
Piers: "The monarchy is a stabilizing force "
Also Piers: "The monarchy is destabilizing the monarchy!"
lol i'm glad i'm not the only person that noticed this. You could also argue that the only reason the monarchy has been a stabilizing force for so long is they got lucky having such a long time with Queen Elizabeth being a generally likable character. The U.K. has had some genuinely horrible monarchs in its long history (George III, Henry VIII, Charles I just to name a few). Imagine if you had a Boris Johnson type king instead for all of that time. And besides all of that, the U.S. has been relatively stable for almost 300 years without a monarch and we seem to be doing just fine attracting tourists and what not.
Right?
I think piers also forget that while it's easy to point to Boris Johnson and Donald Trump I could also point to Charles I, John I, Charles II and James II just to name a few as monarchs who destabilized the nation of England
Yes and there's a time limit on an elected head of state, so if they're doing a bad job they won't be around for long.
I always thought that in order to be able to hold multiple contradictory ideas in your head one needs to be a Marxist, but Morgan proves that as long as one is an attention seeking person who wants to be on every side of any argument at the same time, it is possible to do that 🤔
I honestly can't fathom how someone might think that a non-British would look up to a monarchy historically linked with genocides and imperialism and think: "You know what?! Good for them"
Unfortunately, it’s fairly common. Even in India where the monarchies are presented unfavorably, speaking “The Queens English” is a bragging point. And Europe in general is viewed as an example of “class,” when the existence of “class” is the problem. It’s grim and depressing.
@@MoMo-rx4zr speaking "the queens english" is more of a class symbol (if you have a good education, you'll be able to speak better english) than love for the monarchy. not saying there's no love for the british royals here but we haven't exactly forgotten the east india company or the british raj and plenty of us do hold the monarchy responsible (the kohinoor is still on elizabeths crown by the way)
@@ishathakor Those two things are intrinsically intertwined why do you think there's such a concept as "better English"? Do you think God came down from on High and bestowed on humanity a book outlining how English is meant to be spoken?
how's that monarchy's the just figurehead's for 100s of years. blame the parliament
What I have often noticed is that the british who buy into this whole monarchy stuff somehow believe they are better, because they still have a monarchy... Not to burst their bubble, but that is kind of sad.
You handled this interview exceptionally. Well done Alex!
As an American I have a very American attitude towards monarchy... I see a crown on a head and think "one or the other has to go" 😊
They keep trying to argue “would you prefer Boris Johnson”. Yes… absolutely… because we can vote Boris Johnson out. That’s the whole point. If Boris Johnson was instead a member of the royal family we’d be stuck with him for life. Bad leaders is an argument AGAINST monarchy not for it.
but the monarchy don't enact rules.
@@troywright359And yet they are exempt from them unlike every single other normal Brit.
Since when has the monachy ruled??
@@troywright359 They talk directly to the Prime Minister on a weekly basis and advise on matters of state. They might not enact the rules themselves, but they still have far more influence over them than any of us will ever do.
@@th3be4st61 They ruled for centuries. Their power has diminished gradually since the Civil War, but they still have a massive amount of influence, they don't pay taxes, and their lives are wholly funded by British taxes and the income from their hereditary untaxed estates.
Think of it like this, if you remove the layers of religion and pageantry, the British monarchy essentially owns the entire country and a financial stake in every business made on British soil. They also make money from every transaction, investment, death, etc. That's how taxes worked in the past - all the money went to the King and his family to allow them to live lives of luxury, while the government keeps things running on their behalf. Over the years, the government has become increasingly democratic, and this has pressured the Royal Family to allow more and more taxes to go back to the people in the form of public services - which they accepted in order to prevent themselves from getting Robespierred, along with gradually selling off more of their land to private and public ownership, or granting it to lower nobles.
They don't technically "rule" any more, as they lost the right to direct governance in the Civil War, but "reigning" is only partially better for the rest of us. It means our lives are no longer decreed by the whims of an unelected ruler, but they still have all of the money, privilege, and soft power that they always had. The monarchs no longer have personal control over the Crown Estate and its possessions, but they still get to enjoy all of its benefits and luxuries.
We're essentially paying for a small bunch of very posh people to stay in a variety of luxury locations at no personal charge while having the ear of the Prime Minister and all of the most powerful, influential, and popular people in the country, and in return they wear silly hats and tell us God thinks we're amazing.
I love the way Piers asks someone a question then tells them how they're wrong before they can give an answer.
Lol, yeah. "I think that...."
Piers: "You're missing the point!"
He’s been doing this shit since his days of living in his daddy’s balls
Because it’s all about him in his world lol
Piers Morgan is just another spoiled brat.
It's pointless trying to listen, when no one gets a word in, it's just noise pollution.
Who would expect young people to be interested in the monarchy? They are starting their own life and are more interested in themselves and their friends with a splash of rebellion often thrown in. That is how it should be. They have a lot to do to set the path of their life.
There was once a government employee under the monarchy who fainted to the ground when reprimanded by the king in the conference room for his unsatisfactory work. The funniest thing was when the king was also surprised and immediately ordered the others to help him. Imagine what would happen if the king yelled at him.
''Who are you to tell me how this country should be run, after I asked you to come on this show?'' classic Piers.
Pity Alex didn't say that.
@@martinmartin1363it’s a trap from the start. There’s no debate on any issue on his show. He brings on someone and then asks them a questions before immediately cutting them off and speaking over them. Alex didn’t have a single solid 20-30 seconds of being allowed to talk without being spoken cut off. Typical conservative point of not allowing opposing viewpoints to talk and then screaming about how they have nothing to say
@@martinmartin1363 L take. Piers has said nothing of value and that net positive that the royal family apparently brings into the country, well, I’d loooove to see the publishings that confirm that.
@@whateverdoesntmatter9868 We have a constitutional monarchy. That is the default position. Alex needs to come up with a convincing argument for why we should change, and why the new thing would be better than what we have.
@@chesterdonnelly1212 Yes, he does need to bring a good argument--too bad Piers never let him speak.
Your patience is extraordinary. Piers Morgan is one of the most intelectually dishonest and uninteligable interviewers of his generation and you handled it so gracefully.
*intellectually *unintelligible.
Did not like that young man.... he was only born a few years ago. He knows nothing.... Sort him out Piers!
@@jeffreyhearn8930lol
@@jeffreyhearn8930 being born earlier doesnt mean anything, plenty of senile morons who have lived worthless lives
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He held his end of the argument just fine
If a child receives a cush overpaid job with little to no experience because their parent owns the company(or inherits it), Piers would call them spoiled entitled and incompetent. But when the word changes from company to crown & country he’s a devout supporter.
I don't even fucking understand how people are still holding on with this monarchy thing in the 21st century.
Piers Morgan, the kind of guy to let someone who agrees with him speak freely while interrupting anyone who doesn't. Great job Alex, respect to you for trying to talk to him reasonably
No. We agree with Piers' views u moro n .
Yea, he will interrupt the one he agrees with to tell him: "I'm sorry, but I agree with you"
Problem with any hosted comment show, the narrative is controlled by the host
@@infinitel00p94huh you drunk 😂😂😂
@@mariannelabanane2589 Piers Morgan can also not interrupt his guest and responds when he is done talking.
I know it has been a general behaviour to interrupt someone when you disagree with that person but that's not how debates work.
Fucking brilliant how Alex so quickly stops accepting Piers’ interruptions. The only tool Piers has is to make sure no one can hear the other side.
He wants to make it look like the third guy is the moderate one, and since the third guy is also pro-monarchy, it "solidifies" Morgan's position.
Exactly. I deeply dislike the guy
Empty vessels make the loudest noise.
Morgan has made major mistakes in his career. Faking photos of our soldiers, lecturing Americans about guns and 100% wrong on almost everything to do with Co*vid. And then he acts like he has the wisdom of King Solomon.
He's a nobody, with a thick skin and a loud voice.
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Well, I suppose that's a point of view. What struck me was that even with a two to one advantage, Piers was still getting louder and louder and making more and more hysterical/ emotional arguments.
I think our guy did well.
@@martinmartin1363 It's good that Morgan invites people with differing views on his show. It's bad that he uses people with differing views as a verbal punchbag.
Piers doesn't like the way the conversation is going so goes on a ramble to move on to the next topic, he's always done this.
Please don’t give me the tourism argument yet again. The most visited attraction in France is Versailles. People wild come even more if they could visit the palaces that are no out of bounds.
*invites someone on for an interview*
*doesn't let him finish a sentence*
Great work, Piers
It's how he shows that he is in charge. Not by the quality of his ideas, but by the loudness of his voice.
Morgan is Camilla's mouthpiece
If I wear the person he were interviewing I’d probably let the first two interruptions but afterwards? No screw this I’m out if you’re gonna waste my time interrupting and not letting me get a word in then this interview is done.
@@juliekelly900 and Charles her tampon
Piers the whole interview: you love Boris Johnson + you’re an atheist + I’m older + L + ratio
Remember, though -- it's young people that are "too sensitive" (Or whatever the term he used earlier).
Don't forget the "who tf are you?"
The audacity for Piers Morgan to talk about invasion of privacy
He really almost had the point at 10:23. Why would you not want people getting ousted for doing bad things?
It's really weird how Piers Morgan keeps complaining that Harry and Meghan get so much airtime, while constantly... giving them airtime 😂😂
He is completely obsessed with them. My favourite Alex answer was when he responded that nothing was less interesting to him than the affairs if Meghan and Harry. This needed to be said. The idea that people only started to be republican because of Harry and Meghan has no credibility outside Piers's tiny mond.
Exactly! He is obsessed with them!
I mean he even brings up her appearance as if that's anything.
hell has no fury when Pier is scorned. She ghosted him after they met one time, I believe.
Alex talking over Piers is so satisfying
Oh my God, yes!
For real.
He was so shocked when someone had the balls to interrupt him back.
I find the argument of “they provide incalculable value” but also “I can say for sure that value outweighs any cost they might incur” to not be very convincing.
Even if I agreed with Piers or any Monarchist, not presenting solid benefits and costs to the Royals makes it really hard for anyone forming their own opinions based on your argument to have their own analysis.
"The world will see our nation at it's very best: the pomp, the pageantry, the military procession" LOL.
That is a textbook example of damning with faint praise.
Alex deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for not letting being talked over and at the same time keeping it together.
So . . . what about Larissa? All the white men seemed to do all the talking . . .
I LOVED the part where you clapped back with the truth that being a subject automatically gives us the right to raise our concerns
My favorite part of the debate
@Entity
"I LOVED the part [...] the right to raise our concerns"
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Piers Morgan says he does not like to address Boris Johnson as 'right honourable' as though CosmicSceptic insists that Piers Morgan address Boris Johnson as 'right honourable'.
That's a classic case of misrepresentation (by Piers).
WFT is going on here. There was no reason for us to have an interview here because clearly, he answers himself and stops anyone that has an opposing view
11:00 Piers is so proud of himself here, as if he’d actually “won” some sort of debate. Debates require dialogue which means you can’t pose an argument then speak over someone the moment they start to refute it.
I love how Alex has mastered the art of not letting Piers drown him out while not talking over him in turn.
he is well prepared from all his debates and conversations with much smarter and more knowledgeable people than piers moron
It’s a shame to have such a stellar guest like Alex and not even let him talk
A "stellar" guest, I see what you did there
Yeah like UK monarchy(shhh! It's a democracy) fired "Independent" Aussie PM
Well he's inviting him to shut him down and take credit away from his arguments. His guests aren't there to have a conversation with him.
He can't let him talk because it'll make his audience question their beliefs which is uncomfortable and thus dangerous for him and his show. It's a smear tactic really.
Alex had chances to talk. I don't feel like he was overruled unfairly. He talked more than the other guest
He’s just a CZcams atheist…read any stereotypical liberal belief and he holds them. Weirdly they’re the new religion
If only there was some way to measure how favorable someone in a position of power is amongst a population and make a decision based off of that...
Piers Morgan offers to the world. You can take whatever he says and the opposite is probably true. Such a reliable oracle is rare these days. It would be even more amazing if he could be right instead of being so wrong and disgraceful.
It's amazing seeing someone use "these young people and their entitlement" as a way to defend monarchy.
It's ironic because entitlement tends to lean more towards the older generations.
@@smartalecatheist1262 It’s ironic because these people think a certain family is entitled to living a life of luxury that everyone else is forced to pay for.
He's not (just) defending the monarchy, he's reinforcing perceptions and narratives.
As if it’s entitled to challenge a bunch of parasites who did not do anything to gain their position!
Is it even ironic at all, or is it just standard gaslighting? I, the King, am not entitled; it’s those pesky paupers who are the entitled ones with all of their “I’m hungrys” and their “please pay mes”… ugh! So tiring. I’m not sure that’s irony so much as projection borne of mental illness, or cognitive dissonance at best.
As an American, this conversation is fucking wild. It feels like I was taken in a time machine 300 years back…
BINGO!!!!!!!
oh don't worry, as a frenchman, I have very strong feeling about monarchs and elites considering themselves above their population.
protests are just the start, I can only hope for more, whether it's in France or anywhere else where people are trying to gain their power back.
I'm American and also a huge fan of English medieval history. They have a wonderful and fascinating history and should be proud of it. That being said I feel like the Monarchy should be history now in the 21st century, as Germany and France have done. It's such a bizarre situation to someone who comes from a nation without a Monarchy. It's time to put Hereditary Monarchy into the dust bin of History, just as humanity has done with all kinds of things that are no longer compatible with society.
Don’t worry, based on how the US is going, we ARE taking a Time Machine 300 years back.
Go have a look at the bible belt people in the USA .
Thats a proper 3000 time warp.. without the same class as the royal family
Piers loves the sound of his own voice. In the end, he has to, because nobody else does.
That was not an interview. You kept your composure very well
He did a much better job at not letting Piers Morgan interrupt him and shut him up than most people can, so satisfying to watch
Right? Alex says if Pierce can just keep on talking as if I'm not I guess I can do the same. It's about time someone gave him a dose of his own medicine
Agree we’ll done by the young guy even though it was a 2 on 1
@Ronald Delorme it's pretty much his wheelhouse, and he's pretty good in these sorts of "debates"
Channeling the right honourable gentleman, Christopher Hitchens..
Just imagine how many more tourists would come to Britain if they open up all the royal palaces to the public ?
Truely. Honestly it’d be cool to walk through the halls of Buckingham Palace on a visit to England. Like that’s genuinely be cool to see shit like that
@@empdisaster10And it clearly makes lots of money if you look at Versailles!! There are so many events held there year round to fund its upkeep and it maintains the history without giving a random family a lot of money for no good reason
Exactly, nobody sees the royals they want to see all the palaces, let them, I never liked having a royal family but would willingly pay to see where they lived
imagine how many tourist would come to an event centered around a guillotine
I don't want tourists. Goodbye.
Honestly don't blame Jeremy Clarkson for punching Piers, He should have done more
I think you were cut off on an important point. If they are paying for themselves, why does a taxpayer have to be involved? Because the taxpayer who is financing the royal family will not be reimbursed. Someone else will be.