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- Asmongold Reaction to The War Within Announce Cinematic | World of Warcraft Presented at BlizzCon 2023
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1. They *finally* acknowledged the sword
2. I love how Anduin looks *exactly* like what you'd expect someone who grinded BFA and Maw dailies would look.
What not being able to mount in the maw does to a motherfucker
he looks like brendan fraser with the photoshopped balding head some dentist had in a magazine
He looks like he belongs in a star wars game
@@aszherlmfao is that the origin of that meme? Some tabloid? 😂
Nothing happens... and the cinematic just ends with them looking at a sword that was there in Legion....
I don't play anymore , but man the quality of cinematics has really gone up again. What an insane amount of detail !
What is the point of having all those details f its just two people sitting and talking? At this point they could've just done it live.
@@AnGush33 This should be what we get in-game when we play through the story. This shouldn't be a cinmeatic trailer. Yeah, the last few moments were cool, but like.... Huh? What happened to all the old trailers? The action, the introduction of new places, new characters, new enemies, badass villain doing badass things?
2 dudes in a desert and a sword. Not much, all things considered.
@@AnGush33 World of Warcraft "Homeless Crack addict's Therapy session" Cinematic Trailer - Blizzcon 2023
What the actual fuck are you talking about? The quality of their Warcraft cinematics has GONE. Old Blizzard managed to create 10x the suspense in one of their cinematics than all of Blizzard's past 5 expansion cinematics combined. The writing is POOR, the oldschool Warcraft grounding is gone. Modern WoW is all about marvel shit instead of making you feel grounded within an immersive world.
First CGI cinematic I've ever seen EVER where the humans this realistic didn't trigger uncanny valley so say what you will about the game but Blizzards cinematic team did incredible work with this
Just about every cinematic in Mortal Kombat 1 is realistic to the point of not triggering uncanny valley, and the graphics of the game are actually on that level.
EDIT: seems I triggered some nerds that can’t handle the truth that MK1 is an objectively gorgeous game, with flawless lip syncing and true-to-life facial animations. Say what you will about it releasing in an unfinished state, but none of the people crying “copium” in these comments have actually played the game to know about the its actual issues anyway.
too bad it was wasted on fucking wow of all things...
The Diablo 4 intro cinematic is just as good.
@@GoBlueHTB lol that's some serious copium. I don't care about either of these games, but to think those are on the same level of this cgi is crazy.
Far cry3 dude
Dude has PTSD, not a bitch. People go through it. The Voice acting and mocap was top notch. Really felt what Anduin has been shouldering. He’s way cooler now that he’s traumatized lol.
yeah idk why ppl call him out as a crybaby in this cinematic, it looked like ptsd to me and they nailed it
@@MW-bs1nb because Asmon is a giga chad who never cries!
I think Asmon calls him a bitch because he wines a lot, he’s a priest, & he never fights. This was an exceptional cinematic. Thrall looks BA. Using a human for Anduin was top notch.
@@eldritchf4ther because he prefer Varian over Anduin
What god damn ptsd, what are you people talking about.. its a damn VIDEO GAME where EVERYONE is at war ALL THE TIME... 99 percent of azeroth should have ptsd by that logic...
Metzen: "You know dudes, there is like a sword sticking in the planet?"
Team: "What sword?"
Metzen: 😡🤬
Noticed a very cool detail during the title splash.
Azeroth is seen exploding before it zooms out and reveals Kalimdor during the title splash. If you pay close attention, you'll notice the first explosion we see is directly on Silithus.
Neat little detail that caught my eye.
Wait, so it's going to happen a Cataclysm 2.0 on the world?
@@nakano15 That is what needs to happen. Woudln't be surprised if these 3 expansion saga is the official end of WoW.
@@Navhkrin The 3 mentioned addons are not the whole saga.
as much as i hate to say it, i agree@@Navhkrin
@@dogwithsunglasses4051 The way it's being presented, the saga are these 3 upcoming expansions.
PTSD doesn't make anyone a bitch. This cinematic hit on a level that I can relate to. Understanding its a video game, someone on the writing staff wanted to conceptualize that with Anduin and I think it's worth being acknowledged.
I think its not the "He has ptsd thus it makes him a bitch"
But the fact that Anduin just killed like 1 dude, and he was being mind controlled... So yeah... That doesnt really gives you PTSD, we had characters doing MUCH MUCH MORE fucked up shit in the past and they had mild PTSD at best.
Hell there is a reason Saurfang said in a talk with Garrosh most orcs that survived the demon blood thing has serious PTSD himself included but they still kept moving forward, He even said he stoped eating Pork meat altogether because it reminded him of Orc children being slaugthered, Anduin didnt experienced anything even close to that to be like this
@TheMaxCloud PTSD isn't about quantity. It's experience. He killed a lot more while under the influence. He is also responsible for a lot of stuff that happened in Shadowlands, which he had no control over. You can't reduce the mental health affliction for the sake of argument
@@brentg.1982 Still, a less traumatic experience than Saurfang and others.
If what he did affected him especially more... Its because he has way less mental fortitude than past characters, and that is something people can critizise
@@brentg.1982 In order for Anduin to be like this, they need to rewrite or erase all of shadowlands from the lore, and pretend it never happened, and create a storyline with books that just rewrites everything that happened between bfa and the dragonbutterflies expansion and just... tell a really fucked up story that can actually make him BE like this and make it believable.
Because what he experienced in shadowlands... is not... Its nothing.... Literally nothing, a regular person, cannot have PTSD just for that, unless they are extremely fragile and mentally weak.
@TheMaxCloud I can tell you never served or have been in a war zone. PTSD isn't a result of failed mental fortitude. A rape victim may have one encounter but still suffer PTSD. A person could be assaulted from indirectly and still have a mental moment. It's not about fortitude. PTSD isn't a number generating Stat skill placement. It's real and can happen to anyone. From either being a survivor of Fallujah to a small skirmish outside the hills of a valley. Don't downplay it. I have personally lost friends to suicide because of it.
Holy shit that cinematic looks so damn good. Warcraft 3, the OG, had amazing cinematics, way ahead of the time, and its only improved. This borders on realistic. I was just waiting for that spark thing to say "Hear. Feel. Think."
Ngl never played WoW but this seems to be headed to a “redo” type of thing, just like FF. New people in charge, an apocalyptic in game narrative and better cinematics out of nowhere ? It kind of hints towards that direction.
Archimonde destroying dalaran!!! Greatest ever
@@user-fj9gg5jx5zcinematics have always been great for wow what do you mean? Wow trumps FF in every way possible
blizzard should just give up on making games and do movies/series, animations are the only good thing they are still good at.
@@user-fj9gg5jx5z They should just do 15 different multiverses like all the other franchises are doing after the reset. Someone died? Just bring them back from some other universe
Oh, WoW, Blizzard made an entire expansion just based off of an Asmon Meme...
What meme?
the sword xD@@eoniic3830
@@eoniic3830 What Sword?
what @@Silent1fd
@@Floppyhwhat sword?
'wow they remembered' is basically the bar for blizzard these days
Someone hasn't played Dragonflight
players really are stupid, must be hard to handle them... Ion obviously didn't wanted to talk about the store since it would have spoiled an expansion. But nah, you think so bad of him that he was stupid enough to forget...
Did Magni not explain anything during Legion? I thought he was Azeroths Voice, and now Thrall and Anduin seem to have forgotten she exists
...which simply means it's not her.
But they never heard her voice themselves. So why would they know it's her?
@@AllNamesWasTakenlol yeah, that's the feeling I got as well.
The whole story was that Sargeres wanted to destroy Azeroth so it doesn't get corrupted by the void. Now they are pretending this is all some kind of mystery...idiotic
Exactly this! Since Legion most if not all the main characters know about the World Soul. Now they're playing dumb, makes no sense
Anduin literally looks like a real fucking person, huge goosebumps seeing this cinematic.
No he doesn't everything in this trailer has a weird blur and is hard on the eyes
@@KentVigilante get glasses
As someone with PTSD I think this depiction of Anduin is done very well and tasteful and recognizable without getting too soppy. He might be an emotional bitch and I would’ve loved some action but the detail the cinematic team put into this is mind blowing.
Pretty interesting that a person who's biggest trauma is having to go outside and get showers calls someone with PTSD a bitch.
Tell me you don't actually have PTSD without telling me...
@@Streaming_Music he’s just envious of Anduins and Thralls hairlines.
Hydaelyn, I mean Azeroth is asking for help.
More like nagging... she dont shut up for few expansions already.
Pray return to the chamber of the heart
sorry too busy eating tacos
Anduin looks like a rip off derplander as well
Hear..
Art department and Cinematics are the only parts of Blizzard that are still worthy of that name.
EDIT: and music!
Music as well
@@katm8128 Agreed!
Aren't all these cinematic trailers for most games made by Blur Studio since like 2011 (Arkham games etc.). What's the evidence that Blizzard did it themselves?
@@dominantprime There's behind the scenes of some cinematics, watch the WoD one... It's an in-house team, and the most talented in the world. Maybe do a little bit of research before spewing out random jabs that read pretty much like hate?
@@Ithilion no hate meant at all, that's all in your head. Just asking a question, since Blur seems to do most game cinematics these days. But yea thanks for the part where you answered the question, not the hate part.
Anduin has managed to cry in every cinematic trailer he’s in.
hes a good representative of the alliance
Funny, considering all the horde does is cry about being the bad guy constantly
Sorry! I mean the “blood elf” tribe
More like the WoW Playerbase ... :D@@chris-ne5gh
@@k.t.1641 that's the gay tribe
Yeah, I don't know about Asmon calling Anduin a bitch. I am studying clinical psychology, with a focus on PTSD this semester. I have seen both men and women profoundly affected by extreme trauma. Some of the worst cases I have seen don't come from war, but occur in every country; they are observed in patients who were largely sold as sex slaves. Starvation, forcible binding, burning, genital mutilation, and frequent and extreme amounts of abuse are daily occurrences in their lives.
I enjoy watching Asmon casually, but some of his takes on how human cognition and behaviorism work are concerning. PTSD, as well as Complex PTSD, can lead to extreme dysfunction and impairment, and in some instances, those who suffer from it can barely take care of themselves. This is not to say that ALL PTSD victims are unable to function, as PTSD and its severity vary from patient to patient, and it's not a blanket condition. Victims will not all develop the same responses to traumas even when exposed to the same negative stimulus.
"You are not your past..."
Hmmm Blizzard might be more self aware then i gave em credit for. They are nothing but shit now.
"We don't get to hide." - Saurfang, Thrall, Anduin, the pose from Anduin just like the one from Lich King cinematic, "what I've seen, what I've done" - Saurang, Old Soldier. the references are all over the place
Ion: "What sword?"
Chris Metzen: "THAT sword!"
Anduin: not a bitch. He has been in a shitstorm most of his life and is not even a full grown adult.
Someone already said this, but they need to create a show. Not a movie. A mutli season show that starts from the beginning of the game. Netflix would pick that up in a heartbeat
Keep netflix away from any established IP please.
@@badass6300they do it right every now and then. Castlevania for example.
@@robinolsson7003 Well yes, but they do it wrong much more often, so I'd rather someone else get it. Though it doesn't mean Blizzard wouldn't make it woke on their own considering it's 2023 and that they need to pretend like they care for how poorly they treated the women working there.
@@robinolsson7003 Until Nocturne happened. That show took a big dip in quality.
@@StuartEaston23 castlevania Nocturne was effing awsome that is my oponion. I give it A.
Now we all see how 2 years maw daily can do to a man’s mental health.
blizzard deserves medals for their epic music and trailers
The double meanings in this trailer fill me with a lot of confidence in the writing for this next expansion. The player base is represented here by Anduin. They have left the world after what they had to do and see. Metzen himself (he voices Thrall if you didn't know) is coming to invite us back to the World of Warcraft. The very soul of the world is calling us back for what may be one last great adventure in Azeroth. The sword represents the biggest joke that the community had, that the writers just didn't care about the lore or world anymore. It's being taken seriously here.
I think this is the best cinematic WoW has ever produced. Not because of what's happening, but because what is being conveyed to the players. It's the opposite of the empty, soulless Dragonflight cinematic that was gorgeous, but was basically a mobile game cinematic.
Couldn’t agree more. Not ashamed to say I teared up quite a bit watching this the first time live from the stream.
All the comments saying this is too “Feelings” related - Metzen himself even said that all big, epic things start with a heartfelt moment. I think the big and epic is still to come.
But, boy, this one hit straight in the feels. Second best cinematic in my book, first being WotLK.
@@TonyManfredoniaMusic All the people who complain about feelings were about to start blubbering when Boromir was calling Aragorn "my Captain, my King." Good art is always about emotion. An immature mind has to be tricked into it, but others will embrace it. I will admit that WoW writers tend to try and buy emotional moments too cheaply. You can't get a big cry from a shallow well.
amazing writing, bro does a complete 180 because the hot daddy orc gives him a pep talk and holds his hand.
Compare this to WoD cinematic: Garrosh and Grommash kicking ass, slaying Manoroth and now I'm here waiting to see if Anduin and Thrall kiss or some shit....wtf Blizz this is not Warcraft anymore.
it's 2023, they can't show white dude to be masculine and brave.
@@RavenShugo ye Anduin had so much potential of growing to be a chad like his father in the story but now... instead of hooking him up with taelia or something they probably gonna marry him to wrathion or some shit and have him cry over getting possesed by the Jailer for the entirety of the xpac.
@@oddy2509 these are the same people giving us bearded female dwarves so you just might be right
@@jamespadgett8660 ever heard of warcraft adventures? if not, check it out on youtube
WOD? WORLD OF DIABLO?
Just make this into a full movie. It'll make a billion
They did make a movie. It would have bombed were it not for the China market. I don't think they'd take that risk again.
He was thinking about a cinematic movie probably. At this point they dont need to pay actors and armors, and what else there is, just make a cinematic movie like this trailer is, and 3 hour long... It would kick wow back to top shelfs, just like it did to cyberpunk with edgerunners anime
the writing on this is absolute trash
It wouldn't even make close to that lol!
@@darkot7266Why would it? Just because it's good CGI doesn't mean the story is good. 3 minutes trailer and full length movie are two completely different things.
I know we all meme on WAHnduin, but this trailer was not what I expected - at all, and...I kinda like it. We haven't had heaps of epic promises about imminent features or fast-time gimmicks. Instead we've been told about what sounds like a slower burn Saga that honestly is long overdue.
One of the biggest issues is the constant rollercoaster ride - big bad, new world, new stuff, next expac, all redundant. I really don't mind if they put more feels into the game, provided they are executed with depth and time to simmer. I want to be immersed and *feel* the game. Yes, I want hairy-sweaty-dude-battles but, we've done all the real pre-established stories already. The new stuff has to have a chance to feel *earned* and it's only going to get there if the audience feels invested.
This interaction leaves me curious. Not blindly-hyped for some epic nonsense that feels underwhelming by the end - but intrigued as to where this intimate scene could take the story, to what heights and most importantly; depths. I want to love WoW again.
uhhhh it such a short saga. Blizzard is skimping. The jailer saga went from wc3-shadowlands. That two rts game and 9 games!
@@willt3223 Yeah I mean Blizz have skimped on a lot for a long time - no matter the story. I think it could be a Golden opportunity for them to turn a corner on how they deliver/execute a pre-contained narrative. Whether they actually do it, or it's any good whatsoever remains to be seen. I'd rather have potentially 3 mini-expacs worth of story, than it crammed into timegated nonsense we usually get.
@@willt3223 Well said. I still remember, back in high school, how confusing it was to me that the Legion was using undeath and how out of place Dreadlords were and how much they argued with the Eredar.
Relax nerd
@@Choemeye weeb
Interested in seeing how they'll adapt the concept of Hydaelyn into WoW. I'll be following this. At least they finally started paying attention to the sword that they've ignored for the last 2 expansions.
Haha that's what I thought after hearing "It will be a story going through 3 expansions", kinda like FFXIV i thought, but adding Azeroth titan like Hydaelyn feels like they want to go the same way. Also it feels bizzarre how FFXIV just starts a fresh new story after finishing a multi expansion one, while WoW just starts multi expansion story after many one expansions stories xD
ffxiv players dont mention their shit game that hasnt evolved in 10 years challenge level impossible
@@yjre why so mad? you;re mad because its true, its Hydaelyn in WoW lol
the concepet of azeroth being alive is in the history since the first warcraft game
@@yjreIf Island expeditions is the 'evolution' I'd rather stagnate forever
I just hate that he goes from I'M AN EVIL BAD GUY to Yeah Thrall let's do it together :) in a matter of a few seconds... You just had an emotional moment and there's no natural shift when he decides to join them.
Its alliance…. Being second row is their thing.
Now with Mezen back on the ironing throne, horde characters will be dominant again.
Imo it seems like they are gonna make anduins dark side come out alot more but he still has his humanity. If you look at thrall when he touches his shoulders the background seems to represent a dark forecast on one side and a setting sun on the other kind of indicating to me he has borderline no light left in him after what has happened.
Just me reaching but I feel like blizzard always sprinkles little hidden meanings in their work
What are u talking about? The guy just has ptsd
@@matthewwatson1297except it’s a rising sun. Sky gets brighter throughout. compare at 0:10 to 3:57 and then to 4:28... These are two characters who lost belief in themselves (their powers) and had to run away to face their demons, but they've made it through the night, and a new day (fight) begins... “He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day. But he who is battle slain, can never rise to fight again” The prodigal suns have returned to center stage (pun intended).
That's what he was doing all this time. He was in Silithus because he was there to face the threat, he just needed someone to stand by him. Still not very Warcraft, but if it were any other story, then it would be great. I want Warcraft where characters are too brutal to break down.
They saw Belulars video about talking about emotions and were like "hold my beer"
And now everyone is going to be all fine with the males talking about their feelings shit because cutscene anduin looked realistic😒
@@jamespadgett8660 I don't mind the feelings thing. The Saurfang video before BFA was sick. But it's not something to get me amped for another expansion.
The cinematic honestly had more of a feel of epic fantasy along the lines of LOTR, Narnia, or GoT than the typical comic book fantasy that WoW usually goes for. On one hand, I personally like that direction. On the other, I don't know if that's the direction that most WoW players will want, I guess we'll have to see once it releases. Also important to consider that BfA had one of WoW's best tone setting cinematics and they did fumble the story (though Metzen was gone for most of the development of BfA and they didn't seem to have such a long term plan at that point). It will be interesting to see how this saga plays out over (hopefully) the rest of the decade.
WoW players will be ok with anything after that horrendously shitty story we got with BFA->Shadowlands
@@NavhkrinIt's exactly the opposite lol
Most WoW players are chill, but they don't talk. The ones who do talk will complain no matter what. They've hated WoW for a decade, but they stick around like someone who can't get over an ex, fouling up the air for everyone else.
"On one hand, I personally like that direction." Me too. I was wondering the same as you "I don't know if that's the direction most players will want". But I guess the playerbase is getting older.
Wow players really will get excited about anything 😂
Too bad half of Asmon's chat is going "SOY BOY" over Anduin feeling a bit shit for having massacred people lol
From a narrative perspective Anduin's mentality makes perfect sense, for a priest who was basically controlled by the antithesis of his entire being, and forced to do horrible things. So a bad take on Asmon's part, IMO.
ah yes another expansion where people are more excited about the cinematics than the expansion itself
SWTOR in a nutshell
Yeah how dare anyone get excited for anything Wow-related? We're supposed to be shitting on it no matter what comes out.
this cinematic sucks lol
Dragon flight is great but this gives me shadowlands vibes no thanks!
Dragonflight turned out way better than it's cinematic.
THE WHALE WITHIN
The VFX & CGI team seriously went S-tier.. Just the sheer amounts of detail & imperfections you'd expect while filmmaking an actual actor except it's all done so well. From rigging, armature, facial muscles/contractions, etc. Damn
Its worth noting the team on this used no motion capture. Thats insanely impressive even by Blizzard standards.
It was shit, so blurry and hard on the eyes
its only going to get better with new animation and game engines. we are getting to a point where these things are going to be almost indistinguishable from real life. i cant tell you when that will actually happen. but man we are unbelievably close. humans are definitely built to tell the difference and not, so im not sure what else has to be improved to actually make these feel real in a 1 to 1 with reality.
Quality of cinematic 10/10 but the content in the cinematic? 1/10 characters trying to acting badass makes looks more cringe.
Anyone else feel like "THAT sword" was in direct response to "what sword" when asked by someone we know... :P
Didn't know Shrek was also an excellent PTSD therapist. Very cool!
I don't know what's worse, that Anduin was still moping about things that he didn't even choose to do or how quick he let go of it.
The dude was possessed for like 2 years, I think he can be a lil messed up still.
Why not both?
Thrall would of bitch slapped him
Look. He is white, male and straight...so he of course has to have the big sad.
@@Xfacta12482 Facts.
They sure saved a lot of money on that trailer compared to previous expansions.
BFA was the last good cinematic.
For real, this shit was pathetic. Not even worth watching.
Actually I think this cinematic finally crossed the uncanny valley. Had a hard time believeing Anduin wasn't just an actor. Look actually photorealistic.
@@chanter3978 Amen to that
@@isekaitanya901yeah until Thrall showed up i wasnt sure if it was an actor
I was half expecting 'Hear, feel, think.' after the 'Hear me.' ngl :D
So excited for WoW Endwalker
Today's Fact: The first Diablo game was originally going to be turn-based, but was changed to real-time due to the success of Warcraft II.
Don’t care
Cool fact
@@Lowkey2542 saying i disliked your comment because A CERTAIN COMPANY removed the visibility.
TLDR ratio
Turn based?
Huh, I wonder what that would’ve been like.
fun fact. the programmer swapped it from turn-based to action in like an hour just by making the turns increase automatically every frame.
how fast are the editors? it was like 10 min ago live, jesus
He got something more than his light taken, I think the Jailor tasted his pie. 🤣
Anduin, the only character with good development in all of WoW and depth of emotion - Asmon "he's such a bitch", low IQ takes is exactly why we all love this goblin
Honestly, the ONLY nit pick i have for the whole trailer is Anduin's teeth being too perfect. He has cracked and bleeding skin, lips. Scars. He is scruffy as hell, but his teeth may as well be the light itself because theyre so blindingly white and perfect in contrast with everything else. Dude has let his entire appearance go, but brushes his teeth 5 times per day and uses whitening gel regularly.
I've always laughed at that. They look so messed up but somehow have the Pearl Whites being as shiny as ever!
Didn't you see that small Pepsodent logo between his teeth?
LOL
Personally, I am pumped for the War Within and the whole Saga. I am so glad that it's just classic warcraft fantasy -- elves, dwarves, nerub, etc. -- instead of some gimmick like "a pirate expansion!" "an egypt expansion!" .. Glad it's just core warcraft fantasy and worldbuilding. The warbands sounds like a great idea, and a creative way to do something people have been asking for for a long time (shared rep). It's also a great idea to link the expansions together, give some real weight to the storylines, see the world and story evolve as you go and feel more immersed. I am glad to see characters we know back like Thrall and Alleria.
I think at least half of people will say it's bad no matter literally what blizzard does, but I for one love this game, play it all the time, and think this is great.
The whole Classic+ pipedream -- it's not even a cognizable idea. You ask 100 different people what it is you get 100 different answers. Some say an expansion, but for vanilla. Some say just new patches for vanilla, as if TBC was never released. Some say new endgame content, some say new leveling content. Some say new endgame content but _not_ raids -- like new other stuff to do out in the world... It's not really a coherent idea, just some amorphous notion of greatness people have in their head for what _they_ personally want to happen with classic. So that said, I think it's cool that they are experimenting with new classic content with this season of discovery. That's a cool idea and could be building blocks to eventually get to something that might fit some people's vague idea about what Classic+ is. I am skeptical they would ever create a full-fledged game with regular updates alongside retail... Why would they introduce competition to their own flagship game?
I feel like the general consensus for classic+ is new leveling content, new endgame content (including raids), and class tweaks. All in patches, of course.
The specifics within those might differ, but thats the definition of classic+ for most people.
Don’t get your hopes up yet man!!
A lot of us thought BFA was going to be a godlike xpac and a very Alliance vs Horde driven expansion. That was not encapsulated as well as we had hoped
So after crying about the world sould since Cataclysm, suddenly no one remembers it, and act like it's a big surprise or mystery... Ok... Great story writing indeed.. Can't waaait to hear what the titans "ACTUAL" plan is after the "3 chapters".. Guaranteed a total screw up of the intent and everything classic through legion is about at least.. Can't wait to see how many gonna fall for this YET again..
@@karerabbe7829 who asked
@@CamXXL I enjoyed BFA a lot tbh, but I do agree I wish it was more horde vs. alliance. I actually wish that about WoW in general and wish it wasn't so much trending toward horde and ally coming together. I think it's lost a special dynamic that the game once had with two warring factions made up entirely of real people playing. But, I've also sort of just accepted this is the direction they are going in and have been for a while, so it's w/e
What an epic hype trailer of two people standing around talking about their feelings. Truly, peak 2023 storytelling.
Yet one of the most loved cinematic from blizz in recent history is saurfang talking about his feelings too. Don't just hate on things just for the sake of hating. Try to think a little bit outside of the box sometimes
All of Blizzard's effort goes into their cinematics
Who is the sword aimed at though? Makes no sense!
You understand Asmon that you are responsible for this next expansions story line. ALL of this came from yours and Ion Hazzikosta's interview together.
I don't know if WoW should be a vessel to "teach" players what's PTSD , but this was an accurate depiction in the cinematic.
Many people says Anduin is a soyboy, weak, b@tch etc... He always wanted to see Azeroth a better place, had to live in his Father shadow and expectations, even Varian recognised that what he wants from his son to become he cannot force it on Anduin. He was also forced to act against others and kill innocents because of Sylvanas and the Jailer and also been triggered by memories whats not really his but Arthas`s.. yes true society dont expect and allow men to be visibly "weak and broken" but i believe they`ll write a good journey for him to become someone, a king if you like, who people in the game can look up (like yes he fell but built himself up again from that shattered bloody place where he was)
So if the sword expension is the asmon expension… finally we can be baldwalkers too.
As someone who doesn't play WoW, the dialogue was a bit clunky (to be vague about the mystery) but the acting and emotions of the scene were good. Sorry to WoW fans who don't like men crying we all know you're so alpha and never show emotion
1:25 The intensity these guys have towards this game is crazy! I should one day try it just to see what gives.
It's incredibly easy to get into nowadays. Just download and play. Free up to level 20.
"hE's SuCh A bItCh" No, my friend, that would be you.
Cryduin
Hmmmm wouldn't it be cool if both sides could set aside their differences and come together to fight a foe that threatens the world? Surely that hasn't been done before.
U mean everything from warcraft 3 and after
@@cburton99 /wooosh
@@RavensKiss But what is the joke? Both sides have come together ages ago. There were no new conflicts that skyrabbit would mock
that would be boring as fck
@@RavensKiss on ur own
All it took was a few years Metzon to come back. Blizzard getting brought and a tone of meme to finish the sword arc.
They announced not one turd but three! They really spoiled us this year didnt they
Nope that was just your face in the toilet's reflection.
I think youd be disappointed no matter what. Is there anything they could have announced that would make you excited or would you say its bad regardless?
they will all flop badly it's like shadowlands all over again lol!
I have a great solution here. Cancel your sub, don't buy the xpac and go play something else. If you hate it, don't waste your life on it.
@@SilverRingss cry more!
"Jesse! We need the Light!"
The sudden mood change just felt so unrealistic and forced that it made a Disney-script look good by comparison!
I didn't think I could feel negative excitement but hey, here we are...
No matter what they do, what they announce, any excitement goes away the moment I remember Shadowlands is canon.
@@azahel542 I also never get positive about anything due to something that happened 4 years ago.
Watch this cinematic while thinking Anduin is representing WoW 2004-2010 and Thrall is a gamer from the future.
Damn, that whole conversation was the most cliched and generic conversation ever. You could put that in almost any fantasy game and it wouldn't be out of place
*_3:51_*
*_john2pm: World of Feelings_*
*_LOL Thank you for that one, john2pm. You are a legend in my eyes._*
Thrall is so awesome. He is basically the father that everyone needs.
More like a representation of the core fanbase. A kid during WC1-2, a teen in WC3, and a father in his 30s-40s at the present.
Until he leaves his people to get cigarettes at critical times and only comes back when they force him to come back.
Has happened 2-3 times now.
At least they were able to get him to come back. Some fathers in the real world leave to go get cigarettes and then run off to start a new life. 🤣@@warhammerguy
@@dustys5512 but he *did* start a new life in Nagrand and he returned not out of his own choice but because he had no choice to return since Sylvanas sent assassins after him and his family.
@@warhammerguy Ikr, it kept happening because alliance players were crying constantly. Now even if they declare him as the king of Azeroth i doubt anybody would complain lol
Crazy how they go from a Dragon expansion to a War expansion followed by a Darkness expansion and then are ending it with an Ancients expansion. Wonder where they got the idea for that story from.
sus
they even made Anduin look like a blonde Warrior of Light :D
@@ecMonify Tbh Anduin's journey to become something like a chosen one began as early as Cataclysm imo. MoP at latest. But yes, this calling of Azeroth to apparently many different people across the planet seems kinda sus and familiar.
Out of the loop here. What's the reference?
@@eccemono6534 These morons are talking about FF14 but this shit in WoW was set up before FF14 even existed.
Anduin is like the one compelling character that the World of Warcraft has left to claim as its own.
Shhh, if the dumb fans keep thinking he's "gay" we can keep enjoying the good writing. Once they like him, Blizz will turn him into Epic Cool Guy.
anduin went from brad pitt to the meth kid from breaking bad
more feeling bullshit jfc, I miss the vanilla and tbc cinematic when they showed the HEROES OF AZEROTH, not main characters crying and talking about feels
More *TOUCHY-FEELY.*
The modern WoW team just cannot help themselves making the characters discuss their FEELINGS and be VALIDATED.
God, I want WoD back.
Up until the sword, it looked like "Warcraft: Brokeback Mountain" lol
Anduin: "I have no light!"
Thrall: "Maybe, but I can't quit you!"
How? Because one dude put his hand on the others shoulder? Lmao. Tell me you have daddy issues without telling me you have daddy issues.
The thing i find stupid is that Magni has been saying how Azeroth has been talking to him and is in pain, and yet still after all this time people are all like "huh i wonder who dis is??"
They stole everything from FF14. Hydaelyn's voice echo, the ECHO effect itself, Her very words... I don't even.
You do know FF14 didn't invent voice echoes, right?
Rofl. It was FF14 that did stealing in the first place. Hydaelyn has always been a copy of Azeroth and not the other way around. WoW had this stuff before FFXIV was even a thing but suure illiterate FFIX fanboys thinking their copy-pasta is the original.
Hydaelyn is literally a stolen Azeroth dude lol. Come on you gotta try harder than that. 🥱
@@NavhkrinNot true.
Because Hydaelyn was there in 1.0 and was created long before Yoshi P came in to save the game and also made the team play WoW.
Im gonna add a quote
"The first iteration of Final Fantasy XIV was released in 2010 and was largely considered a failure, but its story was still the groundwork for what followed in A Realm Reborn. It began its story on the planet Hydaelyn, named for its mother-goddess of the same name, in the realm of Eorzea."
@@drudlethe echo is a power dumbass
We needs another movie with that quality
It would cost billions right now.
"Not after what i've done !"
You killed one unamed npc, chill dude, it's ok
Anduin looks like someone who was forced to play Shadow lands
So a bodiless voice from the planet's core that appears like a large glowing light sends visions to our heroes that starts with "Hear" and asks our heroes to find out the secret of a giant sword sitting in the middle of a battlefield from an ancient empire that predates the modern culture... Meanwhile the damaged goods blond guy who as more facial hair now after a tragic mishap and a tricked out sword sets out to investigate.
It's like every final fantasy.
In broad strokes, it’s how every classic manly Hero’s Journey story starts. I’m totally fine with this.
@@martuuk8964 Look up FFXIV hydaelyn ARR. Its something basically exactly this except it came out like 10 years ago and had a satisfying conclusion, which is the main difference from anything Blizzard does nowadays.
You working overtime today, huh editor
So Azeroths worldsoul is just Hydaelyn from FF14 now
You guys in the comment section trying to come up with the ridiculous yet exciting theories, while Blizz writers will pick up the most bland and straight-forward so that normies can understand. The globe that we see in the cinematic is color-coded silver-orange-blue so that people can understand it's actually Azeroth titan soul (azerite was literally the very same color combination). Why wasn't Magni more specific? Welp, Blizzard writing (tm).
Also, Metzen has already confirmed that in the third and last expansion of the "Saga" we will find out that "Titans are not what we know of them and the consipiracy that stretches throughout the world history will finally be revealed."
They are literally foreshadowing the "Titans bad, Sargeras good" Illidan 3.0 redemption arc in your face (yes, the most obvious turn of events), but you don't want to admit the obvious and come up with the theories. Saw the exact same thing with BfA and Sylvanas' arc there.
If the Netflix series is like this , id lose my mind
damn man.. if only ANY of the gameplay looked half as detailed as their trailers.
like if the game looked half as good as this.. even i would play WoW. but uh.. nah im good lol
Microsoft will reboot WoW copium
Even if it looked good is going to be disappointing anyway , made by blizzard is the seal of dogshit the same way as Bethesda
@@basementhomie2674 great nuanced take there bud
@@Xfacta12482 thanks I know , I'm a genius 🤓
@@basementhomie2674 but Bethesda made Skyrim and Starfield, and Blizzard WoW which are 3 games that are extremely successful, amongst the most successful ever actually, so I think both companies did very well. Not sure what you mean.
I like two
1. "He's such a bitch,isn't he?"
2. "Wow, They remembered."
3. "What Sword?"
how is it possible that anduin and thrall have both made it this far unaware that azeroth is a giant titan egg?
A cinematic with Anduin crying? Oh boy that sure is surprising.
Well somebody has to do the crying and Anduin better bite the bullet for Thrall.
For years i had this theory, that Azeroth is a sleeping titan that empowers the very world she rests in, and al those who inhabits her, good or evil gets the potential to grow in strenght beond what normal mortals should.
And during legion we stepped in to the doorstepps of the titan pantheon and cleaned our their shit, suddenly now they are hit with the realization that the mortals grow in power enough to rival them and their agenda.
Just give me 73 gold and 60 silver and Aman'Thul is done.
I'm not sure I'm correct on my guess how wow lore is but when I read sargeras b4 he when evil manage to find another world was corrupted by the old gods and he when and captured several demons to question them of what evil is scheming... The demon told that the old god is trying to take over the world stone and do something bad and so sargeras decided to end their scheme by cleaving that world in half and destroying it... He when and report back to his brothers who is the titans but they cast him out for mass genocide and sargeras decided to cut ties with them and release the creatures(demons) and form the faction burning legion which it's goal is the cleanse the world from the old gods scheme which it's called the burning crusade...
It's more like sargeras doing sort of self righteous doing by cleansing the world by killing everyone and he don't care if being called evil...
So I'm just GUESSING that azeroth was the target and he manage to plunge that sword to the world but did not finish the job because of the heroes and titans are preventing it from happening and now he's coming back to finish the job....
I dunno this is my guessing
this is such a GOT final season vibe
Anduin is crying in literally every cinematic.
For some reasons he reminds me mr. Pinkman from Breaking Bad
But he was a meth head
How were still SO many people hyped and nervous about todays announcements? That they announced another average expansion was so obvious and is completely crazy. The player counts are going to go even lower. A big, big change is needed or like it should, wow 2. But with todays "updates" they completely killed it which was obvious because it is blizzard.
Another "average" expansion ? Come one you're being delusional.
We all know it will be another mediocre cash-grab at best.
Go play classic then. Some of us dont have any intrest in it.
I haven't played since early BFA. This is the first expansion to pique my interest since. We'll see how alright/bad it is as more news comes out.
Doesnt matter if wow 2 comes. Its too late. Riot MMO will take over
Damn you got early access? Let me play, I want to see how mediocre the expansion is too!!!
"i cant help you"
"i trust you"
"ok ill help you"
this dude would have doomed the alliance if he was king.
imagine if frostmourne had been handed to this guy instead of arthas.
"you will be the next li....... oh man..... nevermind put me back in the dirt, there are worms with bigger backbones than you boy"
Idk if it’s a lack of backbone so much.
He’s had his time to grieve over the wrongs that were committed with his body and mind while he was possessed and now he just needed that little push from Thrall to get back on his feet to keep the fight moving.
I actually kind of like that they acknowledged having your body, mind and soul hijacked by a giant Smurf with the power to ruin any story it touches can be a little traumatic. I don’t agree with the narrative decisions made with the jailer in the shadow lands, but this is the first real fallout directly stemming from the actions of the Jailer that I haven’t rolled my eyes at.
If he grows in bravery over time, that's good writing. Better than a Mary Sue.
Editor: *insert sweaty speedrunner meme
So this is like WoW's Endwalker? Cool.
im done with this game, and ive lost any pull to go back, but i'll admit a 3 expansion story line is a nice idea. for those still playing i hope its great
Actually that kills any hype for me and the theme is boring lol!
Just switch to Guild Wars 2, it's better.
That's what they all say. Me included KEKW
A storyline that boils down to "And then Thrall and the good guys defeated the evil guy for the 100th time" told over 5 years doesn't really sound appealing to me honestly
nobody asked you and I have no idea why anyone has to always go out of their way to say they dont play anymore. Nobody and I do mean nobody here cares.
The cinematic always so good.
Azeroth is a birthing Titan, which is strange given how abused it has been by being the prison of the Old Gods and then effectively stabbed by a sword. When it finally emerges it won't be happy.
World of Warcraft "Homeless Crack addict's Therapy session" Cinematic Trailer - Blizzcon 2023